Ross County v Hibs

[RossScott1991]

We must be looking like we are going to set a record in the spl for points lost from winning positions

[Stuart93]

Personally, I think its more the midfield than the defence. We need a strong holding midfielder which we simply do not have. I would though drop Maxwell simply because Rocky is so much better.

It’s no really though is it? Not when the last four goals conceded have been balls into the box.

[Aldo]

Not sure we will recover to get anything this evening. Disappointing tbh.


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[Hibeesmad]

Another 2 goals conceded by Maxwell. Hasn’t done anything wrong to be dropped though.

[Captain Trips]

Time for some tough decisions to be made in defence for Jack.

[nickwhibs]

Teams just know that we'll run out of steam by 60 minutes. This team needs to learn how to play for 90 and stop throwing games away.

[cabbageandribs1875]

when you haven't won a game since september....who ya gonna call



the hibees

[Unseen work]

Rocky was terrible before he was dropped and if Maxwell made the errors he did he would get crucified.

Defensively we are weak.

Defence are too happy to let crosses get into the box and don’t defend them aggressively enough.

The midfield is far too light weight and often lose the battle. Comfortable on the ball but we need more when the going gets tough.

[hibbyfraelibby]

What's the situation with Rocky?

Searching for his dummy...which is why Adam is back as insurance and that claim needs submitting now.

[Hibs90]

None of our defenders or goalie can complain if they're dropped. Horrendous record which JR needs to address asap. No leaders, poor captain, few characters all add up to a soft side.

Always been a weakness when Hanlon and Stevenson have played. Then chuck in a rubbish goalie and it's a recipe for disaster. Porteous hardly covers himself in glory at times either.

[EI255]

Quite shocking to be staring at defeat from Ross County. This team are miles behind our budget. MILES. Yet we toil. Again and again.

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[Hibby Kay-Yay]

Isn’t it the tight diamond midfield that allows for space on the wings for crosses to come in?

[greenpaper55]

Searching for his dummy...which is why Adam is back as insurance and that claim needs submitting now.

I heard we have to pay cash if he plays more games.

[cabbageandribs1875]

slivka off for horgan

[EI255]

Always been a weakness when Hanlon and Stevenson have played. Then chuck in a rubbish goalie and it's a recipe for disaster. Porteous hardly covers himself in glory at times either.We need a new defence. It's clear. Hopefully Mr R sorts it out. Surely he will.

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[Brightside]

I’ll comment once I see the goal. Always helps.

[H18S NX]

Teams just know that we'll run out of steam by 60 minutes. This team needs to learn how to play for 90 and stop throwing games away.......Exactly.

[tamig]

Always been a weakness when Hanlon and Stevenson have played. Then chuck in a rubbish goalie and it's a recipe for disaster. Porteous hardly covers himself in glory at times either.

You’re a bundle of fun.

[madhatter]

Quite shocking to be staring at defeat from Ross County. This team are miles behind our budget. MILES. Yet we toil. Again and again.

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We had a great transfer window though! Virtually all the new signings cannot get in the team. Maxwell will be dropped for Bogdan soon I suspect.

[MacGruber]

Maxwell is an average goalie. Good distribution and looks steady enough in games. He isn't going to pull of a worldy save though - a good effort usually beats him and he is the 3rd best goalie at the club. We need to get rid of sentiment and play our best players

[jellybean]

How much added?

[Stuart93]

You’re a bundle of fun.

He’s not wrong though is he

[Heedersnvolleys]

It’s no really though is it? Not when the last four goals conceded have been balls into the box.

Definitely contributing to our defensive frailties. It’s the midfield that is allowing these balls into the box.

[Unseen work]

I suppose it lets Jack Ross realise the squad does need big improvements.

If we went into a honeymoon period and sailed through the games till January he may have been reluctant to add much to the team.

Centre half, left back, centre mid, winger and striker all required imo.

[Hibs90]

You’re a bundle of fun.

Or I just call it how it is.

[Argylehibby]

and to make things worse Livi lose a goal at the death 1 -1

[calumhibee1]

We had a great transfer window though! Virtually all the new signings cannot get in the team. Maxwell will be dropped for Bogdan soon I suspect.

Doidge, Hallberg and Allan are probably three of the first names on the team sheet. Naismith has done alright as well. 4 of the new signings are pretty much certs to start.

[Pretty Boy]

Are we learning anything tonight we don't already know? We don't kill games off when we are on top and we are fragile defensively. That's been obvious for weeks and months.

Jack Ross had a fantastic start but we all know we are 2 to 4 players short of where we want to be competing. We are more entertaining to watch but this isn't a quick fix and there is no magic wand to fix our issues. What is needed is a couple of solid transfer windows and hard nosed decisions with no regard for sentiment.

[J-C]

Isn’t it the tight diamond midfield that allows for space on the wings for crosses to come in?


Shhhh! Obvious comments like that are not wanted on here, leaving all that space and getting punished has been a problem since we went to it.

[cabbageandribs1875]

right off hibs


what a chance ****** up yet again

[jellybean]

Are we learning anything tonight we don't already know? We don't kill games off when we are on top and we are fragile defensively. That's been obvious for weeks and months.

Jack Ross had a fantastic start but we all know we are 2 to 4 players short of where we want to be competing. We are more entertaining to watch but this isn't a quick fix and there is no magic wand to fix our issues. What is needed is a couple of solid transfer windows and hard nosed decisions with no regard for sentiment.

This.👍

[Jim44]

and to make things worse Livi lose a goal at the death 1 -1

Carlsberg night turns into a Buckfast nightmare. :greengrin

[Hibeesmad]

Are we learning anything tonight we don't already know? We don't kill games off when we are on top and we are fragile defensively. That's been obvious for weeks and months.

Jack Ross had a fantastic start but we all know we are 2 to 4 players short of where we want to be competing. We are more entertaining to watch but this isn't a quick fix and there is no magic wand to fix our issues. What is needed is a couple of solid transfer windows and hard nosed decisions with no regard for sentiment.

Agree agree with that, especially the last sentence. Time to look for better than Hanlon and Stevenson.

[tamig]

Doidge, Hallberg and Allan are probably three of the first names on the team sheet. Naismith has done alright as well. 4 of the new signings are pretty much certs to start.

Aye but you’re talking to the ficklest of fickle football fans here.

[MWHIBBIES]

This is real stinker of a result, no doubt. They're in horrendous form. Gotta win Saturday

[EI255]

Carlsberg night turns into a Buckfast nightmare. :greengrinFor the umpteenth time!

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[Stuart93]

Very poor.

Especially after being 1-0 up

Defence needs to change

[Heisenberg]

Full time. We are really bad at defending, both as a team and individually. Maxwell poor as well. Time for Bogdan back in goal and a change in tactics.

[we are hibs]

***** results like this season after season is the reason we will never be a regular top 4 club.


Another lead chucked away. Lack of bottle.

[fulshie]

It’s no really though is it? Not when the last four goals conceded have been balls into the box.But why are they getting into positions to cross the ball and how many crosses are teams getting within the last 30mins due to our midfield collapsing. Take the Motherwell game for instance, we won 3-1 but got pounded for 30 mins or more and got lucky if your honest. You cannot blame a defence for that. Am not saying we shouldn't freshen things up but changing the defence only will change nothing! Absolutely Nothing! We shouldn't have let Bartley and Milligan without replacing that type of player.

[Biggie]

Quite shocking to be staring at defeat from Ross County. This team are miles behind our budget. MILES. Yet we toil. Again and again.

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Well they've mugged us off again.....remember we have previous with this mob, and in a final as well.
****ing hibs eh ?!

[EI255]

and to make things worse Livi lose a goal at the death 1 -1Livvy nearly won it at the death!

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[Scorrie]

How many points have we lost from winning positions this season? Must be totalling up now...

[PeeJay]

Pretty uninspiring stuff - the team is just poor ...

[Unseen work]

The amount of points we have lost from a winning position is criminal.

I have confidence Ross will address the right areas in January however.

Jackson is surely due a chance, Stevenson is lucky we don’t have another left back to compete with or he’d be out the team too imo.

[JDT]

Sorry but Hanlon isn't good enough. Far to many mistakes from what's supposed to be a senior player

[Hibeesmad]

Motherwell with another comfortable win tonight, I think they are pretty much stick ons for top four at the moment.

[Nicho87]

Honeymoon period between players and Ross over now I reckon.

[SlickShoes]

The usual defensive **** ups, good effort from most of the team, but we are weak where we knew we are weak. We need a transfer window to even remotely sort it out, this is still heckys team it's clear to see.

[NC1875]

Sorry but Hanlon isn't good enough. Far to many mistakes from what's supposed to be a senior player

Captain. Laughable!

[Heisenberg]

Sorry but Hanlon isn't good enough. Far to many mistakes from what's supposed to be a senior player

Absolutely this. He’s been rotten for ages now.

[NORTHERNHIBBY]

Lacking belief and the basics. Not overly surprising. Time for heroes.

[Coco Bryce]

Absolute garbage Hibs.

[Booked4Being-Ugly]

Sorry but Hanlon isn't good enough. Far to many mistakes from what's supposed to be a senior player

No-one in defence right now is good enough.

[Scorrie]

Honeymoon period between players and Ross over now I reckon.

Not yet. Will depend on the reaction on Saturday. Ross will be looking for major improvements

[MacGruber]

One of the quandries for me in central defence is:-

Porteous is our best centre half - but he is right sided.

Hanlon & Porteous combo isn't as good as Hanlon & McGregor.

Porteous & McGregor doesn't work aswell as Hanlon & McGregor.

So Porteous is our best centre back but not part of our best centre back pairing. If only big Daz was left sided.

All IMO

[truehibernian]

Sentiment needs replaced with realism - Hanlon and Stevenson need replaced and we need a solid injury free right back - Naismith isn't the answer and neither is SDG. Whole back line are not good enough. That's where the January window should concentrate on.

[Jim44]

We are a dyed in the wool mid table team at best and nothing short of major surgery in January will take us to the next level of sniffing a chance of top 4.

[AgentDaleCooper]

it saddens me to say it, but hanlon has lost it. he's not the player he was two years ago.

i still hold out hope for lewy, because he's my favourite hibs player ever.

[Hibeesmad]

No-one in defence right now is good enough.

Porteous hasn’t lived up to the hype he received last season.

[Hibeesmad]

One of the quandries for me in central defence is:-

Porteous is our best centre half - but he is right sided.

Hanlon & Porteous combo isn't as good as Hanlon & McGregor.

Porteous & McGregor doesn't work aswell as Hanlon & McGregor.

So Porteous is our best centre back but not part of our best centre back pairing. If only big Daz was left sided.

All IMO

Let’s get him in with Jackson.

[MWHIBBIES]

One of the quandries for me in central defence is:-

Porteous is our best centre half - but he is right sided.

Hanlon & Porteous combo isn't as good as Hanlon & McGregor.

Porteous & McGregor doesn't work aswell as Hanlon & McGregor.

So Porteous is our best centre back but not part of our best centre back pairing. If only big Daz was left sided.

All IMO

Daz isn't better than Hanlon

[Speedway]

Let’s get him in with Jackson.

Time for a back 3.

[erin go bragh]

Crap result but on to Saturday now . Could be worse ,, could be a point of the bottom . Still top six !

[ekhibee]

Honeymoon over. We defend like that against Cosgrove on Saturday and he'll get a hattrick.

[Heisenberg]

Time for a back 3.

I agree. Don’t see why not. 3-5-2 on Saturday with Bogdan in goals.

[Mick O'Rourke]

Time for some tough decisions to be made in defence for Jack.

My thoughts also
Too many goals lost to high balls in the box
Not too mention seeing games out in final minutes of matches
Frustrating isn't it
Play some nice football too
But defence needs work to say the least

[blackpoolhibs]

We got a bit of new manager bounce, but we are again seeing where we need to strengthen, and defence and midfield need an overhaul.

As pretty boy said on another thread, there can be no sentiment in January, Hanlon and Stevenson have been great servants, but their time has come to an end as regular starters for Hibs, decent back up but we need better.

A new keeper, 2 midfielders and someone up top is the minimum we need in the coming two windows, we obviously wont get them all in January, but Ross has a rebuild on his hands.

[madhatter]

Doidge, Hallberg and Allan are probably three of the first names on the team sheet. Naismith has done alright as well. 4 of the new signings are pretty much certs to start.

Naismith hasn't been great in my opinion. He routinely stands off his man, more than 1 example of that in every game. Gray would replace Naismith easily.

Doidge has done alright but his overall play is really poor in my opinion. Scored goals recently which is good but his link up play and movement can be really poor. Regularly anonymous in 2nd half of every game. If there is interest I'd sell Kamberi in January and get 2 new strikers to compete with Doidge.

Allan has actually been quite poor this season. I dont think this team works well for him - doesn't get the best out of him.

Hallberg looks quite good but only lasts 50-60mins before tiring badly. He also is not a defensive mid.

My fear is while Allan and Hallberg have obvious quality, if you weigh everything up, we either have 2nd choices, poor first choices, or players playing out of their best positions. Squad needed a serious refresh and I dont think it got one. Our best defence at the moment would still be the old guard. Think that says it all.

[we are hibs]

Daz isn't better than Hanlon

Hes significantly better. Hanlon gets turned inside out on a regular basis these days. Back to the soft and easily bullied hanlon of pre stubbs days.

[supermcginn]

Daz isn't better than Hanlon

You could ask all the strikers in the league who they would rather play against and 99 percent would rather be up against Hanlon. He's so soft.

[tonyrougier123]

We could solve the centre back issue by signing efe ambrose on a free.
People can reply what they like here,but the defence has been suspect since he left and under pressure far too much from open and set plays.

[Sammy7nil]

Daz isn't better than Hanlon

I think he probably is now. I like Hamlin but it is simply not working for him and has not done so for months now. McGregor is simply tougher and more of a battled than Hamlin and right now that makes him better.

[green day]

Despite what he may have said in public, Jack Ross must know where the issue are with this team. If nothing else, he will have been told by Mathie and the other members of the coaching team.

I am sure there will be major surgery in January, and we just need to try and pick up the odd point here or there, as the rest of this month is tough.

Anybody who thought that "these players were decent" because of the St J, Motherwell, St M matches hadnt been watching us all season.

[Robbo6-2]

Feel sorry for the 500 fans who travelled up.

Poor result and sad fact is we are a mid table side.

We need some serious quality in Jan if we have any chance of top 4

[truehibernian]

We are a dyed in the wool mid table team at best and nothing short of major surgery in January will take us to the next level of sniffing a chance of top 4.

Strikers need to take chances Jim but the defence doesn't do the basics and close down space and crosses. Porteous and Hanlon play deep when crosses come in and neither attack the ball and they stand off. If you know your centre halves play on the 6 yard line then your full backs have to bust a gut to prevent balls coming in - neither Lewis or Naismith do - they stand off or allow the cross. Two new full backs and a cultured centre half who can instinctively see danger rather than wait for it. Hard to find but that's what we need. Our defence is too static and we have a keeper who doesn't command his area too.

[MWHIBBIES]

Hes significantly better. Hanlon gets turned inside out on a regular basis these days. Back to the soft and easily bullied hanlon of pre stubbs days.

Hasn't kicked a ball in months but is significantly better. Daz is rash and got away it it when quicker and had cover. He'll struggle to play at this level without a big change in playstyle. His style also doesn't compliment Ryan at all.

[Alfred E Newman]

Some of the football we have played in the last few games has been outstanding but unfortunately we don't have a leader on the park. We desperately needed a strong character in there to help to see us over the line on Saturday and most of the other games we have let leads slip. Paul Hanlon has been a great servant to the club but he is not a leader.

[Sir David Gray]

18 points we've lost now from a winning position.

This is absolutely ridiculous.

We really needed a win tonight considering our upcoming fixtures.

[flash]

Hasn't kicked a ball in months but is significantly better. Daz is rash and got away it it when quicker and had cover. He'll struggle to play at this level without a big change in playstyle. His style also doesn't compliment Ryan at all.

McGregor is miles better than Hanlon. He is still our best centre half if we can keep him fit.

[fulshie]

Despite what he may have said in public, Jack Ross must know where the issue are with this team. If nothing else, he will have been told by Mathie and the other members of the coaching team.

I am sure there will be major surgery in January, and we just need to try and pick up the odd point here or there, as the rest of this month is tough.

Anybody who thought that "these players were decent" because of the St J, Motherwell, St M matches hadnt been watching us all season.Spot on. Its not just the defence. The midfield collapses after 1hr in every game and puts pressure on the defence and eventually something gives. If I were a betting man I would bet JR looks to signing a decent strong defensive midfielder first and foremost.

[green day]

Spot on. Its not just the defence. The midfield collapses after 1hr in every game and puts pressure on the defence and eventually something gives. If I were a betting man I would bet JR looks to signing a decent strong defensive midfielder first and foremost.

Christ, I hope so we have needed one since June :greengrin:greengrin

[fishybeaver]

Spot on. Its not just the defence. The midfield collapses after 1hr in every game and puts pressure on the defence and eventually something gives. If I were a betting man I would bet JR looks to signing a decent strong defensive midfielder first and foremost.

There's one at Livingston who fits that bill perfectly!!

[Fifehibby74]

Bottom line is Ross county away is not an easy game. Always been scrappy tight games with them up there.

Feels worse after chucking away full points on Saturday. When are we going to get the breaks and scrape a last minute result?

Not sure what the answer is but one thing for sure our defence is dodgy and we are to soft.

[madhatter]

McGregor is miles better than Hanlon. He is still our best centre half if we can keep him fit.

That's the problem. Our best players fall into the "if we can keep him fit". Gray and McGregor would be starters. The 2nd part of that problem is our 2nd choices aren't very good.

This isn't meant as a dig at them but Mallan, Slivka, Horgan and Boyle are the other problems.

we cannot create a combination in midfield with enough grit. Hallberg tackles well but he cannot do it on his own.

[Hibeesmad]

If we had kept Bartley I think we would have gained at least another 8 points this season

[Unseen work]

Spot on. Its not just the defence. The midfield collapses after 1hr in every game and puts pressure on the defence and eventually something gives. If I were a betting man I would bet JR looks to signing a decent strong defensive midfielder first and foremost.

I have said it before, but I really wouldn’t be surprised to see him go for Stephen McGinn.

[Brightside]

McGregor is miles better than Hanlon. He is still our best centre half if we can keep him fit.

This is just silly. Happens every time Hanlon makes a mistake. Porto has been poor since she came back in. Multiple mistakes and bookings. I’d change to a back 3 and add in Jackson.

[flash]

This is just silly. Happens every time Hanlon makes a mistake. Porto has been poor since she came back in. Multiple mistakes and bookings. I’d change to a back 3 and add in Jackson.

That's because he makes a mistake every week.

[EI255]

Bottom line is Ross county away is not an easy game. Always been scrappy tight games with them up there.

Feels worse after chucking away full points on Saturday. When are we going to get the breaks and scrape a last minute result?

Not sure what the answer is but one thing for sure our defence is dodgy and we are to soft.Difficult to accept when your budget blows their one out of the water. They are a farm team. Tractor men. Shepherds. Hay stackers. Good luck to them though.

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[cabbageandribs1875]

dear hibs, i beg of thee



McGeouch and/or Efe in january, and if jack ross doesn't agree with me...stephen robinson in the summer :)

[Heisenberg]

Hanlon is a seasoned pro and captain. He’s been awful for a long time, that can’t be deflected onto Porteous. There’s no hiding from the fact that he hasn’t been good enough. From the verge of the Scotland squad to this in a couple of seasons is frightening.

[flash]

Hanlon and Stevenson are fine when we are on top in a game but neither of them will ever lift the team when it's needed despite all their experience.
You might get away with one quiet and meek member of a back four but not two.

[Green-Hibee-7]

I’m sorry but Ross County are utter guff.

I cannot believe we have just chucked that. That was an attitude problem from what I can judge.

So many tonight below par. Only Doidge, Allan and Boyle got anywhere near pass marks for me.

Can see a few cricket scores in the next few games against us being honest. Terrible. Keeper has had that in him for me and the second one we again just let someone have the freedom of the box to finish.

Long journey home underway👎

[MWHIBBIES]

McGregor is miles better than Hanlon. He is still our best centre half if we can keep him fit.

McGregor was never miles better. Definitely isn't now

[NC1875]

No coincidence Hanlon and Stevenson’s best seasons came in the championship and when we had a great midfield in front of them.

Not good enough along with a few others

[Brightside]

That's because he makes a mistake every week.

Of course he does. As does every single defender in football. Porto has made mistakes in every game. Been booked in every game. But I’m sure everyone is correct again and Paul will get dropped for Daz and all will be good on .net. 👍

[Foritza]

Very sad result .

[Speedway]

There’s no danger the season’s over after 16 matches (as some of the chat on here suggests) but the new manager bounce is.

He’s fixed the quality of football quickly, now he has to fix the quality of squad.

[Hibeesmad]

I’m sorry but Ross County are utter guff.

I cannot believe we have just chucked that. That was an attitude problem from what I can judge.

So many tonight below par. Only Doidge, Allan and Boyle got anywhere near pass marks for me.

Can see a few cricket scores in the next few games against us being honest. Terrible. Keeper has had that in him for me and the second one we again just let someone have the freedom of the box to finish.

Long journey home underway👎

Bought my ticket for Celtic away yesterday. This result has just killed my excitement for that game.

[NC1875]

Of course he does. As does every single defender in football. Porto has made mistakes in every game. Been booked in every game. But I’m sure everyone is correct again and Paul will get dropped for Daz and all will be good on .net. 👍

You really love Hanlon don’t you.

[CRAZYHIBBY]

Looks like we're **** again ...ross out .

[Green-Hibee-7]

Bottom line is Ross county away is not an easy game. Always been scrappy tight games with them up there.

Feels worse after chucking away full points on Saturday. When are we going to get the breaks and scrape a last minute result?

Not sure what the answer is but one thing for sure our defence is dodgy and we are to soft.


Nah, that should have been an easy win if we were anywhere at it. They were atrocious. If we played anywhere near the level we played at against Kilmarnock in the first half we would have tucked them away no problem.

Again attitude was awful.

You are right though we are soft as anything. Terrible.

[Brightside]

You really love Hanlon don’t you.

I like to base comments on fact. The majority commenting tonight weren’t even at the game!! But they all know about the goals and the mistakes? Genius stuff.

[The 90+2]

This is just silly. Happens every time Hanlon makes a mistake. Porto has been poor since she came back in. Multiple mistakes and bookings. I’d change to a back 3 and add in Jackson.

Hanlons been ***** since before this time last year. He isn’t good enough anymore. Lovely lad but he’s Ross County or Livi standard now. I’ve no idea why every single time it’s brought up Hanlon has been piss poor you want to rip a footballer just making his way in the game too.

[Hiber-nation]

Of course he does. As does every single defender in football. Porto has made mistakes in every game. Been booked in every game. But I’m sure everyone is correct again and Paul will get dropped for Daz and all will be good on .net. 👍

It's basic errors every week. Not concentrating, ball going over his head early in games, out muscled, happens so many times. Opposition forwards must love to play against him.

[The 90+2]

I like to base comments on fact. The majority commenting tonight weren’t even at the game!! But they all know about the goals and the mistakes? Genius stuff.

Do you think he’s:
A) commanding enough to be a centre half and not crumble?
B) captain the side as some kind of motivator?

[Brightside]

Hanlons been ***** since before this time last year. He isn’t good enough anymore. Lovely lad but he’s Ross County or Livi standard now. I’ve no idea why every single time it’s brought up Hanlon has been piss poor you want to rip a footballer just making his way in the game too.

Treat them all the same. Doesn’t happen on here.

[The 90+2]

It's basic errors every week. Not concentrating, ball going over his head early in games, out muscled, happens so many times. Opposition forwards must love to play against him.

Yep. They target him like they did Whittaker earlier on in the season. He’s towing a caravan each game.

[mcfly]

Changes are needed for sat.

Marciano in goals
McGregor replaces Hanlon
Maybe even bring in Whittaker

Neither can have any complaints as we can’t keep a clean sheet.

[Dunbar Hibee]

Hanlon really, really needs dropped. Soft as *****.

[flash]

Treat them all the same. Doesn’t happen on here.

Aye so you do.

[hibeerealist]

Hanlon is a seasoned pro and captain. He’s been awful for a long time, that can’t be deflected onto Porteous. There’s no hiding from the fact that he hasn’t been good enough. From the verge of the Scotland squad to this in a couple of seasons is frightening.


:agree: And his poor form is not helping young Porto, PH has been a weakness in our defence all season albeit not the only one!

[Jim44]

There’s no danger the season’s over after 16 matches (as some of the chat on here suggests) but the new manager bounce is.

He’s fixed the quality of football quickly, now he has to fix the quality of squad.

Nobody’s suggesting the season’s over. We’ll still have to work hard to stand still and then add more quality to the squad in January. Even with some improvement, 5th spot will be a tough ask.

[Brightside]

Drop him then. I’m sure Ross must see what all the experts are seeing.

[emerald green]

Any team that is struggling to win a match for ages, like Ross County tonight (nine games without a win and absolutely rotten), must breath a sigh of relief when they see their next match is against Hibs, sadly the league's biggest soft touches.

It's past the embarrassing stage now.

0-1 at HT for Hibs against weak opposition, and they crumble yet again.

[The Wireless]

Why is Hibs best goalkeeper not getting a look in. If he is going then so be it but let’s play the guy till he leaves. Cutting our throat to spite our face. If we don’t like how his agent conducts his buisness then don’t take it out on the support and the team. Rocky has been one of the best 3 goalkeepers we have had in the last 20 years in my opinion.

[tamig]

Treat them all the same. Doesn’t happen on here.

I like Hanlon - as do you. However, he’s been way below par this season. Definitely not the same player of the past few years. I don’t know why you can’t be honest and admit that.

[The 90+2]

Treat them all the same. Doesn’t happen on here.

True. People take it personally if it’s Lewis or Paul.

[tamig]

Any team that is struggling to win a match for ages, like Ross County tonight (nine games without a win and absolutely rotten), must breath a sigh of relief when they see their next match is against Hibs, sadly the league's biggest soft touches.

It's past the embarrassing stage now.

0-1 at HT for Hibs against weak opposition, and they crumble yet again.
It’s been happening for years. As you say a team that hasn’t won in weeks. A team that hasn’t scored in weeks. We always help them break the habit.

[Silky]

Any team that is struggling to win a match for ages, like Ross County tonight (nine games without a win and absolutely rotten), must breath a sigh of relief when they see their next match is against Hibs, sadly the league's biggest soft touches.

It's past the embarrassing stage now.

0-1 at HT for Hibs against weak opposition, and they crumble yet again.

This has been the same complaint since the first game of the season. Is it the players not being good enough or are they just doing what they are told? One manager has already lost his job because of results and performances like this. If the problem is the players, is changing the manager really going to make a difference?

[Stuart93]

Too much chat about hearts and how much of a shambles they’re just now.

Our seasons not far behind.

[The 90+2]

Too much chat about hearts and how much of a shambles they’re just now.

Our seasons not far behind.

Just a blip the night. We need McGregor and Gray back ASAP though. The lack of leadership is very concerning.

[Stuart93]

Just a blip the night. We need McGregor and Gray back ASAP though. The lack of leadership is very concerning.

I’m no sure it is a blip.

We’re soft as **** the now

[Hibeesmad]

Too much chat about hearts and how much of a shambles they’re just now.

Our seasons not far behind.

Playing Aberdeen, Celtic, Rangers and Hearts in the next 3 weeks isn’t ideal either.

[Alfred E Newman]

There’s no danger the season’s over after 16 matches (as some of the chat on here suggests) but the new manager bounce is.

He’s fixed the quality of football quickly, now he has to fix the quality of squad.

I don't think anyone who has been watching Hibs this season will have been fooled by the upturn in results, welcome as they are. Jack Ross has a job on his hands managing a squad that everyone on here agreed is as poor as we have had for a long time. Points have been picked up by playing a more atttack minded formation but we still have a soft centre and lack a leader as was so evident on Saturday. Hopefully the points gathered in the past few weeks will help keep us away from the danger zone till Ross can do some wheeling and dealing in January , though that will depend on being able to get rid of a lot of the duds.

[madhatter]

Drop him then. I’m sure Ross must see what all the experts are seeing.

No player this season could argue against being dropped. We’ve been rotten.

Shows how poor our recruitment has been, we have no options to change things. We’ve formed a midfield that don’t tackle and can’t run box to box. Very weak in midfield and our defence are equally weak. Small squad with too many poor players.

Hanlon is like all others, deserves to be dropped but we don’t have many options.

3 bad summer transfer windows in a row, no real youth development success and our Sporting Director talking about using Football Manager database to get information...things have been going down hill and needs looked at before it’s too late. I don’t think relegation is likely this season but fan interest is plummeting.

[emerald green]

This has been the same complaint since the first game of the season. Is it the players not being good enough or are they just doing what they are told? One manager has already lost his job because of results and performances like this. If the problem is the players, is changing the manager really going to make a difference?

Who knows mate? I'm past trying to figure Hibs out, and tired of the same old excuses and disappointments.

One thing for sure is that this current squad is weak and does not have a collective winning mentality and killer instinct. If that means the players (at least a number of them) are "not good enough" then they have to be moved on.

[ddoc]

Playing Aberdeen, Celtic, Rangers and Hearts in the next 3 weeks isn’t ideal either.

We will likely come out of this with between 2 and 4 points and sliding back down the table. But I am forever hopeful.

[mca]

I don't think anyone who has been watching Hibs this season will have been fooled by the upturn in results, welcome as they are. Jack Ross has a job on his hands managing a squad that everyone on here agreed is as poor as we have had for a long time. Points have been picked up by playing a more atttack minded formation but we still have a soft centre and lack a leader as was so evident on Saturday. Hopefully the points gathered in the past few weeks will help keep us away from the danger zone till Ross can do some wheeling and dealing in January , though that will depend on being able to get rid of a lot of the duds.



Totally Agree with your post.. Just a few weeks ago we were a few minutes away from being bottom of the table..

PS.. what is your avatar pic.. i should know it but i just can't remember the name..

[Hibeesmad]

We will likely come out of this with between 2 and 4 points and sliding back down the table. But I am forever hopeful.

Aberdeen haven’t been doing too bad lately, will be a difficult game on Saturday, we seem to struggle to beat them. Can’t see us beating Celtic. Rangers at home under the lights with hopefully a good atmosphere I’d feel optimistic of getting a result. Hearts away, form goes out the window.

[loanheadhibby]

How bad must Jackson be if he cannot oust Hanlon?

[ancient hibee]

Totally Agree with your post.. Just a few weeks ago we were a few minutes away from being bottom of the table..

PS.. what is your avatar pic.. i should know it but i just can't remember the name..
Makes you mad when you can’t remember a name:greengrin

[The 90+2]

I’m no sure it is a blip.

We’re soft as **** the now

True. Lack of leadership is astounding. It’s Hecks mess though. Hopefully he’s advising his pal Stendel similar for when he eventually takes over there. I never thought for the life of me I would be regretting Milligan leaving.

[The 90+2]

How bad must Jackson be if he cannot oust Hanlon?

Not that bad, apparently Barnsley fell apart when he left them. Said all the radge Barnsley fans sticking up for the German Pep who’s going to hearts.

[Sir David Gray]

Aberdeen haven’t been doing too bad lately, will be a difficult game on Saturday, we seem to struggle to beat them. Can’t see us beating Celtic. Rangers at home under the lights with hopefully a good atmosphere I’d feel optimistic of getting a result. Hearts away, form goes out the window.

We could easily be looking at no more than 1 or 2 points from those fixtures which will really put us in a difficult position.

[The 90+2]

We could easily be looking at no more than 1 or 2 points from those fixtures which will really put us in a difficult position.

Under different management I would agree. I think we will pick up three points on Saturday but December will be very difficult but we knew that for months and failed to address PH earlier.

[emerald green]

We could easily be looking at no more than 1 or 2 points from those fixtures which will really put us in a difficult position.

Yep, and it's because the current Hibs squad is very unlikely to take many points from fixtures against Aberdeen, Celtic, Rangers, and possibly even Hearts, that's why it is so damaging to have dropped 5 points to Ross County already this season.

[BILLYHIBS]

Totally Agree with your post.. Just a few weeks ago we were a few minutes away from being bottom of the table..

PS.. what is your avatar pic.. i should know it but i just can't remember the name..

Mad comics

[emerald green]

It’s been happening for years. As you say a team that hasn’t won in weeks. A team that hasn’t scored in weeks. We always help them break the habit.

The bit in bold. That's what I don't get.

Lennon was correct with his "boy band" description.

[Sir David Gray]

Under different management I would agree. I think we will pick up three points on Saturday but December will be very difficult but we knew that for months and failed to address PH earlier.

I just don't see us beating Aberdeen or Rangers at home and I certainly don't see us beating Celtic at Parkhead. We should be looking to win at Tynecastle but let's be honest would anyone really be surprised if they beat us on Boxing Day?

We can't keep clean sheets and routinely surrender points from winning positions. Against the top teams we just won't get away with that.

We'll have to improve drastically to win any of the next 3 games.

[Stuart93]

Any team that is struggling to win a match for ages, like Ross County tonight (nine games without a win and absolutely rotten), must breath a sigh of relief when they see their next match is against Hibs, sadly the league's biggest soft touches.

It's past the embarrassing stage now.

0-1 at HT for Hibs against weak opposition, and they crumble yet again.

Said this as well. This has been a problem with us for years.

[Newhaven]

Hanlon really, really needs dropped. Soft as *****.

Ah but he scored at tynie three years ago :rolleyes:

Not a leader in a million years

[Steve88]

Anyone keeping tabs on Sean Mackie's progress over at dundee....

Seem to remember him having one hell of a left peg on him whipping crosses in against celtic!

[Silky]

Under different management I would agree. I think we will pick up three points on Saturday but December will be very difficult but we knew that for months and failed to address PH earlier.

I'm not so sure. I honestly don't think the "different management" is going to change anything. We are still seeing the same soft centre, the same profligate finishing, the same mistakes. I think it's the players. You can lead a horse to water.......

[Stuart93]

Anyone keeping tabs on Sean Mackie's progress over at dundee....

Seem to remember him having one hell of a left peg on him whipping crosses in against celtic!

He has a decent left foot on him aye. He’s just no very good at defending.

Watched him against dundee Utd for dundee and he had a shocker

[Fergos]

I don't think anyone who has been watching Hibs this season will have been fooled by the upturn in results, welcome as they are. Jack Ross has a job on his hands managing a squad that everyone on here agreed is as poor as we have had for a long time. Points have been picked up by playing a more atttack minded formation but we still have a soft centre and lack a leader as was so evident on Saturday. Hopefully the points gathered in the past few weeks will help keep us away from the danger zone till Ross can do some wheeling and dealing in January , though that will depend on being able to get rid of a lot of the duds.

Agree. Some deals done in January with a complete overhaul come summer. The ghosts of Hecky will be here until around then.

GGTTH

[The 90+2]

I'm not so sure. I honestly don't think the "different management" is going to change anything. We are still seeing the same soft centre, the same profligate finishing, the same mistakes. I think it's the players. You can lead a horse to water.......

Aye, true. Roll on January. Fk this wasn’t addressed in the summer! I know, let’s sign another *****bag how is that even allowed or not discussed with our recruitment team over what type of player we sign?

[Lex7zero]

Changes are needed for sat.

Marciano in goals
McGregor replaces Hanlon
Maybe even bring in Whittaker

Neither can have any complaints as we can’t keep a clean sheet.

My god I saw your first 2 comments and thought spot on but then you show you ain’t got a clue by mentioning Whittaker the man that can’t run can’t pass and can’t play footie anymore. Sorry nout personal but anyone that has seen Whittie this season and doesn’t recognise he is well past finished needs a reality check.

[Lex7zero]

I like Hanlon - as do you. However, he’s been way below par this season. Definitely not the same player of the past few years. I don’t know why you can’t be honest and admit that.

Hanlon is the luckiest guy in Scotland to have earned a living kicking a ball for the last 10 years. The weakest link for years and yet another manager hasn’t sussed it yet.

[NAE NOOKIE]

A win tonight would have kept things on an even keel after blowing it against Killie ... looking at our next few fixtures a win against Aberdeen is absolutely vital now because we cant pretend we still couldn't be drawn into the relegation spots.

Aberdeen had an obviously tough game tonight, so we can have no excuses on Saturday about being tired, we are at home and they are the team travelling ... however we do it, its a game we simply have to win. In fact I would go so far as to say we should chuck everything at this game and just take the Celtic game as it comes, perhaps even resting a few at Celtic park like Allan, Kamberi and Stevenson for example.

The same problems we had under Heckingbottom now appear to be apparent under Ross. It would be wrong to say we don't look more dynamic in attack, but apart from being unable to defend a lead we also seem to have a fitness problem throughout the team ... It was evident against Motherwell and Killie that after an hour we seem to tire visibly ... folk who were there tonight will know if that happened again.

Going forward we need a leader on the park, one who will be there all the time and who isn't constantly injured, we need a defensive midfield player ( a good one ) we need at least one new centre half who can take charge at the back EG a Rob Jones type and we need to find out why it is that a mere 16 games into the season we seem to have half a team playing like they are burnt out and sort it.

[B.H.F.C]

Just home and pretty p****d off with that.

Thought our attitude was shocking in the second half. We did well enough in the first half, without being brilliant. But we showed absolutely no intent when we came out for the second half. Ross County are garbage and I think our players thought they could just coast through.

We are incredibly poor defensively. It needed addressed in the summer and we are paying for the fact it wasn’t. Surely has to be the first thing Ross looks to address in January.

[Lex7zero]

Just home and pretty p****d off with that.

Thought our attitude was shocking in the second half. We did well enough in the first half, without being brilliant. But we showed absolutely no intent when we came out for the second half. Ross County are garbage and I think our players thought they could just coast through.

We are incredibly poor defensively. It needed addressed in the summer and we are paying for the fact it wasn’t. Surely has to be the first thing Ross looks to address in January.
Aye soft as putty. Hanlon the weakest link for years and wee Lewis a lovely laddie but just well short in terms of quality.

[MWHIBBIES]

Hanlon is the luckiest guy in Scotland to have earned a living kicking a ball for the last 10 years. The weakest link for years and yet another manager hasn’t sussed it yet.
But you have, the great susser of weak links.

Scottish cup winning Hibs legend, nothing lucky about it.

[MWHIBBIES]

Aye soft as putty. Hanlon the weakest link for years and wee Lewis a lovely laddie but just well short in terms of quality.

Well short of quality for what? Scottish cup wins? League cup wins? Top 4 finishes? European runs? Definitely not because he's achieved it

[Albanian Hibs]

Of course he does. As does every single defender in football. Porto has made mistakes in every game. Been booked in every game. But I’m sure everyone is correct again and Paul will get dropped for Daz and all will be good on .net. 👍

Hanlon is ****ing ***** and has been for ages.

[Todi114]

Matches are won and lost in the final 20 minutes
is it fitness or attitude?
Lennon obviously felt it was attitude

[Brightside]

Who are all these trumpets that turn up every time there is a poor result? I assume all were at the game. This place turns into kickback every time we lose.

[Allant1981]

Well short of quality for what? Scottish cup wins? League cup wins? Top 4 finishes? European runs? Definitely not because he's achieved it

Scottish cup win was 2 years ago, league cup win was 12 years ago, european run was a couple of qualifying games for the actual competition, both players have been great servants to the club but clearly we need better if we want to progress

[Brightside]

Scottish cup win was 2 years ago, league cup win was 12 years ago, european run was a couple of qualifying games for the actual competition, both players have been great servants to the club but clearly we need better if we want to progress

So drop them then. Let’s see how the replacements get on.

[Gloucester Hibs]

So drop them then. Let’s see how the replacements get on.

Can't drop Stevenson just now, there is nobody else. Bring Daz (if fit) in for Hanlon on Saturday and make replacing both in January a priority. Great servants to the club but their race is run I'm afraid.

[mcfly]

My god I saw your first 2 comments and thought spot on but then you show you ain’t got a clue by mentioning Whittaker the man that can’t run can’t pass and can’t play footie anymore. Sorry nout personal but anyone that has seen Whittie this season and doesn’t recognise he is well past finished needs a reality check.

Oh really I’ve not got a clue - my opinion is as useful as yours . Whitt was MOM first game of season so maybe you haven’t seen hibs at all this season.

We can’t keep a clean sheet - the undroppables need dropped.

It’s not good enough. The whole squad deserves a chance.

[Allant1981]

So drop them then. Let’s see how the replacements get on.

That's the biggest problem, we have no natural left back to replace stevenson, james was average at RB so cant see him being any better at LB, jackson I dont think would be suited to playing on the left of the CH pairing so again stuck with Hanlon just now.

[Brightside]

Having watched the goals the second one whilst Hanlon is the one to knock it back in, he’s obv under the ball, off balance, and miles out of position trying to close down a threat. I’m sure he’d have headed it out if he could have. First goal goalie should do better but the defence just give the guy a free run at it. Also look how far out of position Lewis is as our LM players doesn’t deal with the threat. Again certain players are getting a bye on here. The shape we are playing with allows 2 up front but is leaving us exposed ion the flanks all the time.

[blackpoolhibs]

Drop him then. I’m sure Ross must see what all the experts are seeing.

Thats the thing, we've nobody to replace him with. Jackson is just as poor if not worse, and we dont even have a left back in the squad that can replace Stevenson.

Our right back is a ponderous slogger, who's very average at best. A midfield who cant defend and just want to go forward, it does put more pressure on the defence i will give you that, but the defenders whatever ones we put out, struggle to do the very basics of defending right.

We've a few legends in this team that have had their time, its comes to them all.

[Brightside]

Thats the thing, we've nobody to replace him with. Jackson is just as poor if not worse, and we dont even have a left back in the squad that can replace Stevenson.

Our right back is a ponderous slogger, who's very average at best. A midfield who cant defend and just want to go forward, it does put more pressure on the defence i will give you that, but the defenders whatever ones we put out, struggle to do the very basics of defending right.

We've a few legends in this team that have had their time, its comes to them all.

So why has no manager thought to bring in a LB or a LCB in the last 3/4 years? It’s always pointed out on here as our weakest area yet we don’t rush out for replacements?

[B.H.F.C]

Having watched the goals the second one whilst Hanlon is the one to knock it back in, he’s obv under the ball, off balance, and miles out of position trying to close down a threat. I’m sure he’d have headed it out if he could have. First goal goalie should do better but the defence just give the guy a free run at it. Also look how far out of position Lewis is as our LM players doesn’t deal with the threat. Again certain players are getting a bye on here. The shape we are playing with allows 2 up front but is leaving us exposed ion the flanks all the time.

When we played a shape (most of the season) that offered them more protection, the defending was no better.

Hanlon and Stevenson are the two senior pros in that team. They should be the ones organising us and leading us but they can’t do it.

The problem with our team is that it’s always someone else’s fault. When the defence don’t defend its down to the midfield. When the midfield are poor its down to lack of movement. When the strikers are poor it’s down to lack of service.

Collectively we are poor and we displayed a poor attitude last night.

[blackpoolhibs]

So why has no manager thought to bring in a LB or a LCB in the last 3/4 years? It’s always pointed out on here as our weakest area yet we don’t rush out for replacements?

We've brought in central defenders before, Jackson the most recent, and even brought in full backs who've never made it, Nellom (sp)

Maybe its because we've needed players more in different parts of the squad that they have been sourced first, which i'd agree with.

Yet here we are now watching all our defenders failing to win their battles, failing to stop their players deliver crosses or shots, and generally not do the basics right.

Its now time to address this part of the team as a priority, as Stevenson has got worse, Hanlon has got slower and worse, Daz is permanently injured and older, the same with SDG, and those brought in by the clown to challenge them are poorer players than those who they are replacing.

Over the last few years, we've had a midfield who would work ever so hard at defending AND attacking, and who also had class and quality, this helped our average defenders look so much better than they ever were.

Now those defenders need to show their qualities, we are seeing just how limited they are.

[Brightside]

We've brought in central defenders before, Jackson the most recent, and even brought in full backs who've never made it, Nellom (sp)

Maybe its because we've needed players more in different parts of the squad that they have been sourced first, which i'd agree with.

Yet here we are now watching all our defenders failing to win their battles, failing to stop their players deliver crosses or shots, and generally not do the basics right.

Its now time to address this part of the team as a priority, as Stevenson has got worse, Hanlon has got slower and worse, Daz is permanently injured and older, the same with SDG, and those brought in by the clown to challenge them are poorer players than those who they are replacing.

Over the last few years, we've had a midfield who would work ever so hard at defending AND attacking, and who also had class and quality, this helped our average defenders look so much better than they ever were.

Now those defenders need to show their qualities, we are seeing just how limited they are.

I agree I’d like better in all positions. I’m just a realist. And like previous managers I think Ross will aim at other areas before the 2 players that are pin pointed as the issue by the majority on the forum. The current shape really doesn’t help us defensively. People can say that’s just an excuse but you have to shape the team to get the best out of it. The diamond may be creating more chances, but it’s also handing out more than ever to opponents.

[Jones28]

Hanlon is a decent defender on form, but he is well off it at the moment. How many games without a clean sheet is that now? I count 1 for the season.

Maxwell is, like many other have said, vocal, distributes well but just doesn’t have that thing for me that says he’s pulling off absolutely brilliant saves like Bogdan and Marciano. Pretty poor to have ended up in a situation where we have one goalkeeper who plays because the other is tied with contractual issues.

[Brightside]

Just to add to the formation thing. This is from a standard txt book on playing the diamond.

When on the attack, the Diamond requires the deepest lying midfielder to hold position, as a shield to the defence—a defence without the two fullbacks who have joined in the attack. This leads to a transition to a shape resembling the standard 3-5-2.

We do not have that at the moment. I like Hallberg but in many of the game he goes walk about and doesn’t drop in to make it a 3. For me that’s the big missing link.

[B.H.F.C]

The current shape really doesn’t help us defensively. People can say that’s just an excuse but you have to shape the team to get the best out of it. The diamond may be creating more chances, but it’s also handing out more than ever to opponents.

It’s not, and it didn’t last night. Defensive record has been poor all season.

We’ve played it four times and lost 6 goals. In the reverse fixtures, playing with one up front, we lost 9 goals.

Bottom line, we can’t defend properly, irrespective of system.

[we are hibs]

I agree I’d like better in all positions. I’m just a realist. And like previous managers I think Ross will aim at other areas before the 2 players that are pin pointed as the issue by the majority on the forum. The current shape really doesn’t help us defensively. People can say that’s just an excuse but you have to shape the team to get the best out of it. The diamond may be creating more chances, but it’s also handing out more than ever to opponents.


Our defence hasnt been great whether its this formation or the one heckingbottom was deploying. So surely setting up to get the best out our attacking players which this formation mostly has done is the only way forward until January when we can bring in players to change the shape and either give the defence more cover or recruit new defenders? I dont see any other alternative. We cant see out leads so the only way we are going to win is to keep pressing forward for more goals and trying to turn games into end to end affairs.

[blackpoolhibs]

Just to add to the formation thing. This is from a standard txt book on playing the diamond.

When on the attack, the Diamond requires the deepest lying midfielder to hold position, as a shield to the defence—a defence without the two fullbacks who have joined in the attack. This leads to a transition to a shape resembling the standard 3-5-2.

We do not have that at the moment. I like Hallberg but in many of the game he goes walk about and doesn’t drop in to make it a 3. For me that’s the big missing link.

The system thing is irrelevant, whatever formation we've played this season, we've still lost goals and lots of them.

Poor players contribute to poor performances and poor results.

[The Modfather]

So why has no manager thought to bring in a LB or a LCB in the last 3/4 years? It’s always pointed out on here as our weakest area yet we don’t rush out for replacements?

I do think over the years we have failed to have adequate cover/replacements for both Hanlon & Stevenson. Which would have allowed them time out the team when their form dropped, and like we saw with Bogdan and Marciano, the competition may have even inspired them to a greater level.

I think the 17/18 season was their peak, they were both arguably in as good form as anyone else in the league and were deserving of being in and around the Scotland squad. I do think they are now in decline though, and are fast becoming the priority areas to replace, but by no means the only two problem areas.

[J-C]

You defend from the front, middle and back and our weak area of defending has been the middle. Allan has worked hard on this part of his game, Mallan tries but is poor, the number of times he puts in a half hearted challenge and then gives up. Hallberg, Slivka and Newell are tidy clever players but wont win many 50/50's or break up play with a solid challenge and Vela, well where is he? abducted by aliens by the look of it. We recruited poorly in the middle, Jackson is a lower half EFL journeyman, we have no one pushing Lewis at LB and Naismith is bang average, with James just the same. At the moment I'd say we need at least 4 maybe 5 new players.

[mcfly]

None of the back 4 or the goalie can have any complaints if they are dropped for sat.

If you were a defender on the bench watching the same guys make the same mistakes week in week out it must be really frustrating.

Big changes are needed, no time for sentiment, if players aren’t performing then they have to be dropped.

[blackpoolhibs]

None of the back 4 or the goalie can have any complaints if they are dropped for sat.

If you were a defender on the bench watching the same guys make the same mistakes week in week out it must be really frustrating.

Big changes are needed, no time for sentiment, if players aren’t performing then they have to be dropped.

That is all well and good, but who do you replace any of them with?

[mcfly]

That is all well and good, but who do you replace any of them with?

Well we are losing cheap goals every week.

James - right back for Naismith
Jackson centre half for Hanlon
Lewis is just lucky there is no other left back.

We have to try and keep a clean sheet

Why heckingbottom thought it wise to get rid of our other left back and our 2 defensive midfielders only he will know.

[blackpoolhibs]

Well we are losing cheap goals every week.

James - right back for Naismith
Jackson centre half for Hanlon
Lewis is just lucky there is no other left back.

We have to try and keep a clean sheet

Why heckingbottom thought it wise to get rid of our other left back and our 2 defensive midfielders only he will know.

James is every bit as poor as Naismith, and Jackson is no better than Hanlon. We can try all the permutations you like, nothing will change in my opinion until we get better defenders than we currently have.

[Tully]

James is every bit as poor as Naismith, and Jackson is no better than Hanlon. We can try all the permutations you like, nothing will change in my opinion until we get better defenders than we currently have. get mcgregor in

[blackpoolhibs]

get mcgregor in

No idea how fit he is, he's not played in what seems months?

[ekhibee]

James is every bit as poor as Naismith, and Jackson is no better than Hanlon. We can try all the permutations you like, nothing will change in my opinion until we get better defenders than we currently have.

Totally agree. It should be 1 of the priorities in January IMO.

[Frazerbob]

Who are all these trumpets that turn up every time there is a poor result? I assume all were at the game. This place turns into kickback every time we lose.

Exactly. The over reaction to this result has been ridiculous. Do folk really not remember we were bottom of the league a few weeks ago? We lost by the odd goal, away from home, to the team 1 place below us. Disappointing yes but not the embarrassment many are claiming.

[Frazerbob]

Aye soft as putty. Hanlon the weakest link for years and wee Lewis a lovely laddie but just well short in terms of quality.

‘Laddie’? He’s a 32 year old grown man with a couple of cup winners medals and a Scotland on his mantelpiece. Bit disrespectful no?

[Baldy Foghorn]

Who are all these trumpets that turn up every time there is a poor result? I assume all were at the game. This place turns into kickback every time we lose.

Well only 552 of us in Dingwall. Who is kicking into us?

[B.H.F.C]

Exactly. The over reaction to this result has been ridiculous. Do folk really not remember we were bottom of the league a few weeks ago? We lost by the odd goal, away from home, to the team 1 place below us. Disappointing yes but not the embarrassment many are claiming.

Anybody who was unfortunate enough to be up there the other night has every right to be more than a bit disappointed. Disappointing to lose, yep. Disappointing to lose to a poor side like them, yep. But the manner of the second half performance was more than disappointing. Lack of intent, fight and willingness to do the ugly side of the game isn’t good enough. Despite our struggles this season, the players seemed to think all they had to do was come back out for the second half and that would be enough.

[Frazerbob]

Anybody who was unfortunate enough to be up there the other night has every right to be more than a bit disappointed. Disappointing to lose, yep. Disappointing to lose to a poor side like them, yep. But the manner of the second half performance was more than disappointing. Lack of intent, fight and willingness to do the ugly side of the game isn’t good enough. Despite our struggles this season, the players seemed to think all they had to do was come back out for the second half and that would be enough.

I was there. I was disappointed (obviously).......I was not embarrassed, like some are saying. The abuse the players got for daring to come over and thank the fans for their support was however embarrassing. Imagine the comments if they’d just walked off the park with no acknowledgement!

[B.H.F.C]

I was there. I was disappointed (obviously).......I was not embarrassed, like some are saying. The abuse the players got for daring to come over and thank the fans for their support was however embarrassing. Imagine the comments if they’d just walked off the park with no acknowledgement!

I wouldn’t say I was embarrassed. It was a 2-1 defeat in the league.

But I was more than disappointed. I thought we deserved better than the attitude they displayed in the second half.

[matty_f]

I was there. I was disappointed (obviously).......I was not embarrassed, like some are saying. The abuse the players got for daring to come over and thank the fans for their support was however embarrassing. Imagine the comments if they’d just walked off the park with no acknowledgement!

Modern society has turned folk into a-holes. Imagine shouting abuse at folk you turn up to support. Have never, ever understood that mentality.

Maybe I'm being unkind on modern society, folk have always shouted at players but I do think it's worse now and I think these days folk have a total lack of perspective and think that it's ok to slaughter someone because they dared lose a game of football.

[Baldy Foghorn]

I wouldn’t say I was embarrassed. It was a 2-1 defeat in the league.

But I was more than disappointed. I thought we deserved better than the attitude they displayed in the second half.

Agree it was poor. Half hearted at best from some