Leith Traffic / Roadworks

[Jamesie]

That's the new traffic lights and sequencing in place and live at the bottom of Easter Road where previously the roundabout was.

Given the volume of traffic queued up at 1030 on a Sunday morning I won't like to see what it's like on a match day or just even come rush hour, so factor this in to your journey on Saturday!

Separately Constitution St closed on Friday for 18 months and I'm told this is having a negative knock on effect on nearby parking - worth bearing in mind for any fans who park in the vicinity of Leith Links.

[tamig]

That's the new traffic lights and sequencing in place and live at the bottom of Easter Road where previously the roundabout was.

Given the volume of traffic queued up at 1030 on a Sunday morning I won't like to see what it's like on a match day or just even come rush hour, so factor this in to your journey on Saturday!

Separately Constitution St closed on Friday for 18 months and I'm told this is having a negative knock on effect on nearby parking - worth bearing in mind for any fans who park in the vicinity of Leith Links.
Its a shambles round the whole area just now. Constitution St closing yesterday has just added to the mix.

[CMurdoch]

That's the new traffic lights and sequencing in place and live at the bottom of Easter Road where previously the roundabout was.

Given the volume of traffic queued up at 1030 on a Sunday morning I won't like to see what it's like on a match day or just even come rush hour, so factor this in to your journey on Saturday!

Separately Constitution St closed on Friday for 18 months and I'm told this is having a negative knock on effect on nearby parking - worth bearing in mind for any fans who park in the vicinity of Leith Links.

There was nothing wrong with the roundabout at the bottom of Easter Road as a means of managing the traffic.
Suspect this solution will be a regressive step.
A bigger waste of money than Hearts stand!

[Keith_M]

Suspect this solution will be a regressive step.
A bigger waste of money than Hearts stand!



Now that's just silly.

😉

[CMurdoch]

Now that's just silly.

😉

:wink:

[AFKA5814_Hibs]

No idea why they've put traffic lights in. There was never any issue with the roundabout. Total waste of time and money.

[hibee_girl]

No idea why they've put traffic lights in. There was never any issue with the roundabout. Total waste of time and money.

They’ve said it’s to help manage the volume of traffic on Easter Road when Leith Walk has to close for tram works :dunno:

[The_Exile]

Is it the whole of constitution street? Or is the bit from bernard street down to the casino still open?

[AFKA5814_Hibs]

They’ve said it’s to help manage the volume of traffic on Easter Road when Leith Walk has to close for tram works :dunno:

Traffic is going to be a nightmare in the area for the next couple of years. I need to get a job away from Leith. Though I guess I'm stuck with the football team. 😆

[bingo70]

There was nothing wrong with the roundabout at the bottom of Easter Road as a means of managing the traffic.
Suspect this solution will be a regressive step.
A bigger waste of money than Hearts stand!

Correct.

That’s near where I live and I’ve driven that roundabout what must be thousands of times. Not once have I seen any problem, solved a problem that didn’t exist, be interesting to know how much the whole thing has cost.

[WoreTheGreen]

Correct.

That’s near where I live and I’ve driven that roundabout what must be thousands of times. Not once have I seen any problem, solved a problem that didn’t exist, be interesting to know how much the whole thing has cost.

Oh where is our open top cup winners bus going to go

[Eaststand]

Is it the whole of constitution street? Or is the bit from bernard street down to the casino still open?

That bottom part of Const Street approaching the casino was also closed when I drove past earlier today mate

GGTTH

[AFKA5814_Hibs]

Is it the whole of constitution street? Or is the bit from bernard street down to the casino still open?

The section from Queen Charlotte Street to Constitution Place, just before the roundabout at the old Casino will be closed for a year, the section from Foot of Walk to Queen Charlotte Street for 18 months.

[The_Exile]

Ah balls, I head down that way every morning, Commercial Street it is for the foreseeable.

[Iggy Pope]

Oh where is our open top cup winners bus going to go

Down Academy street like last time.

[The Harp Awakes]

The section from Queen Charlotte Street to Constitution Place, just before the roundabout at the old Casino will be closed for a year, the section from Foot of Walk to Queen Charlotte Street for 18 months.

Knew nothing about the roadworks when trying to get to the ocean terminal today. The entire area is mental. There's a few rabbit runs you can take but the only direct route to the ocean terminal from Leith is via the 2 right turns at the job centre - which doesn't let much traffic through. Going to be chaos on weekends leading up to Christmas.

[Weegreenman]

[QUOTE=CMurdoch;5992873]There was nothing wrong with the roundabout at the bottom of Easter Road as a means of managing the traffic.
Suspect this solution will be a regressive step.
A bigger waste of money than Hearts stand![/QUOTE

Couldn’t agree more. There was no need to be touching this particular junction. Plenty places need sorting, this wasn’t one of them. ]

[Smartie]

Is the Constitution Street stuff the start of the tram works?

I've been along there yesterday and today (on foot) and didn't think anything of it.

[Scouse Hibee]

Is the Constitution Street stuff the start of the tram works?

I've been along there yesterday and today (on foot) and didn't think anything of it.

Yes start of the enabling works to move utilities.

[offshorehibby]

I live on ER close to the junction. I can understand why people saying nothing wrong with the old roundabout. Over the coming months/years the traffic on ER is going to significantly increase along with the junction. So whether we like it or not some sort of traffic management is required.

On another note, i take it the junction is still open through Queen Charlotte ST.

[lord bunberry]

I live on ER close to the junction. I can understand why people saying nothing wrong with the old roundabout. Over the coming months/years the traffic on ER is going to significantly increase along with the junction. So whether we like it or not some sort of traffic management is required.

On another note, i take it the junction is still open through Queen Charlotte ST.
It is, you can still drive from the links along queen Charlotte street and go round the back way.

[BS44]

Correct.

That’s near where I live and I’ve driven that roundabout what must be thousands of times. Not once have I seen any problem, solved a problem that didn’t exist, be interesting to know how much the whole thing has cost.

Always thought the pedestrian crossing twenty yards along from the roundabout was a potential safety issue, negotiate the roundabout and then you sometimes had to be quick on the brake as there is a pedestrian on the crossing

[Bishop Hibee]

The signals at the foot of Easter Road are indeed due to the tram works and the larger volume of traffic that will use Easter Road. There is zero chance they will be removed when the work is finished.

The local community council of which I’m a member were shown the plans as a fait accompli and our protests were ignored. The right turn at the bottom of Lochend Road onto Vanburgh Place is banned now too. The timings of the lights will be tweaked to improve traffic flow as is normal for any new signalised junction. It is definitely an improvement for pedestrians crossing though.

[ACLeith]

That bottom part of Const Street approaching the casino was also closed when I drove past earlier today mate

GGTTH

It's one way coming from ocean terminal. Have to then turn right along tower street past malmaison then up the very narrow street to the lights. Don't go that way if you want to remain sane!

But once the trams get going it will be great for those who live in east Leith won't it? 🙄

[One Day Soon]

Edinburgh is becoming an incredibly hostile envornment for drivers now. Partly by design and partly by exemplary mismanagement of utilities works scheduling. The cumulative economic and environmental cost of traffic related to impact from miscellaneous road works, the St James rebuild and the tram extension must make ugly reading.

It's also telling just how negative an impact regulation of traffic is compared to self regulation by drivers themselves. Roundabouts are relatively free flowing and continuous, traffic lights - even when optimally phased - never manage the same flows. And the most obvious example of the difference in traffic flow between lights and no lights is when a set go down on an unlpanned basis. The ability of drivers to self manage those circumstances extremely efficiently without any external assistance is pretty telling.

If Edinburgh employed traffic management wardens rather than road based tax collectors we'd have a much more effective roads system.

[Lago]

Yes start of the enabling works to move utilities.
Again, glad I've retired, had enough of it when I worked in the town last time they dug everything up.

[Jamesie]

It is, you can still drive from the links along queen Charlotte street and go round the back way.

Yup I found that on my way down to OT this morning and managed to go through the back streets to get onto Bernard Street. so many very small and minor roads are going to get utterly battered by traffic over the next 18 months that I wonder if they’ll actually cope - and all it will take is subsidence on one or two of them and a need for urgent repairs to develop and the whole area will be completely knackered.

[hibby6270]

Also worth mentioning that traffic in Bernard Street and Baltic Street is single file both ways. No left or right turns into Constitution Street either towards Leith Walk or towards the old Casino.

My car is parked in my street just off The Links and will be staying there for the foreseeable until the changes are absorbed by the daily incoming workers who’ll have nowhere to park. Need to go anywhere? I’ll just get the bus!!

[lord bunberry]

Yup I found that on my way down to OT this morning and managed to go through the back streets to get onto Bernard Street. so many very small and minor roads are going to get utterly battered by traffic over the next 18 months that I wonder if they’ll actually cope - and all it will take is subsidence on one or two of them and a need for urgent repairs to develop and the whole area will be completely knackered.
When Haymarket was closed all the traffic was diverted along Eglinton Crescent. The road had to be resurfaced twice in around 6 months. They brought in a squad of workies and did it in a day, the same thing will be needed in Leith.

[Hibee_Craig7062]

Going from Dalmeny Street to town in a number 22 was an absolute nightmare at 5.30pm last evening. Took 50 mins to get to the second stop on Princes Street. All due to the works outside the omni.

[The_Exile]

Wasn't too bad this morning just before 8am heading west from Portobello to Victoria Quay. Dreading getting home tonight though, hoping it all moves fairly steady along to Seafield but the likelihood is it'll be a nightmare with everyone leaving Leith in one go along a single lane.

[overdrive]

Going from Dalmeny Street to town in a number 22 was an absolute nightmare at 5.30pm last evening. Took 50 mins to get to the second stop on Princes Street. All due to the works outside the omni.

Likewise this morning. Took 20 mins to get from Elm Row to the lights at Leith Street and Waterloo Place.

[Jamesie]

Will be very interesting to see how it all copes on Saturday.

[snedzuk]

http://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/tramstonewhaven/info/3/consultation/3/consultation[/url]


Here you go - this is in my line and in a tram meeting about two months ago I asked the question 'have you spoken with Hibernian' - answer 'why would we do that?'


The roundabout at the foot of Easter Road - the works were being undertaken after the Ross County game and there were already lane closures - it usually takes me about 35mins to get from my seat to Newhaven Harbour - that day it took over 60 and I imagine it will be worse with the signals.


The Council has a newish 'active travel' section - the move is to ultimately replace all uncontrolled roundabout junctions with signals as (as is mentioned further up this thread) they afford greater priority to those on foot or cycle (or bus as they can be timed to suit bus movements).


Essentially, if you drive in Edinburgh youre ****ed.

[where'stheslope]

The whole Tram fiasco should have been done and dusted, first the dig up Leith Walk to move the Gas lines, fill it in, then dig up the Water and move it then fill it in again???
Why was it all not done at one time, instead of creating ciaos twice!!!
Now they have to dig up and lay the Tram tracks, yet more ciaos for what is in my mind not worth the money just to run trams to Ocean Terminal???
Buses will still be running to the other parts the Trams won't reach, so in my mind its a total waste of money and resources!!!

[Mr Grieves]

I cross Lochend Road, pass Leith Academy and cross easter road just about every morning. Since this new junction has been installed it's been noticeable how much quieter Easter Road is and how much busier Lochend road is. There's been traffic backed up Lochend Road every morning.

[PatHead]

Can I remind everyone to complete the survey about extending bus lanes to 7am-7pm every day. If someone could post a link.....

[One Day Soon]

Can I remind everyone to complete the survey about extending bus lanes to 7am-7pm every day. If someone could post a link.....

What a completely pointless policy. They work fine as they are at the moment and if there was an argument for doing anything differently it would be for traffic wardens to be actual traffic wardens and move on the van and lorry drivers who regularly park up to unload on arterial and related main routes.

[Keith_M]

....

It's also telling just how negative an impact regulation of traffic is compared to self regulation by drivers themselves. Roundabouts are relatively free flowing and continuous, traffic lights - even when optimally phased - never manage the same flows....


A really good example of that is the changes made to the area round McDiarmid Park. There are an unbelievable number of traffic lights there now and you can wait for ages to get through them.

I arrived hours before the match, as we were staying over, but leaving at the northbound exit of the Perth bypass was a nightmare, so I dread to think what it was like from about 2pm onward.

[hibee_girl]

The new traffic lights have been causing the traffic to be backed up right along the links. You only get about three cars through the lights before they change to red again.

It’s even worse at school pick up times etc.

[YanYansen]

Going from Dalmeny Street to town in a number 22 was an absolute nightmare at 5.30pm last evening. Took 50 mins to get to the second stop on Princes Street. All due to the works outside the omni.

That bit was total insanity about 9.45 this morning. The number 5 took at least 25 minutes to get from outside Dofo's to past the Picardy Place bunfight. Thoroughly ****in sick of it now.

[Billy Whizz]

Noticed York Place is closed West Bound, any idea how long this is for?
Going to cause mayhem post match for me on Saturday

[Ronniekirk]

Noticed York Place is closed West Bound, any idea how long this is for?
Going to cause mayhem post match for me on Saturday

Cheers think I will let the train take the strain and walk down from station based on this


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[GreenCastle]

Noticed York Place is closed West Bound, any idea how long this is for?
Going to cause mayhem post match for me on Saturday

Supposedly December 1st.

Would avoid driving near Omni currently as down to single lane and along with Leith Street big delays.

[offshorehibby]

It's been 25 minutes from end of London Rd to lights at top of Leith st round about 12:30 last 2 or 3 days.

[J-C]

Noticed York Place is closed West Bound, any idea how long this is for?
Going to cause mayhem post match for me on Saturday

That area is just a big bus and car park, if you're heading west, go via E London St as the traffic is fine that way.

[Coco Bryce]

Train - pub - game - pub - train

For me then :greengrin

[ben johnson]

What a completely pointless policy. They work fine as they are at the moment and if there was an argument for doing anything differently it would be for traffic wardens to be actual traffic wardens and move on the van and lorry drivers who regularly park up to unload on arterial and related main routes.

Yes the wardens could perhaps start clearing the cars out of Loading Bay Only along arterial and main routes allowing vans and lorries to get in out the way of traffic. Morningside Road could be a starting point as car drivers load their Greggs takeaways into their cars blocking the loading bays

[tamig]

That area is just a big bus and car park, if you're heading west, go via E London St as the traffic is fine that way.

Thats my route every day. I don’t know why anyone would choose to go London Road, York Place, Queen Street.

[Scouse Hibee]

Thats my route every day. I don’t know why anyone would choose to go London Road, York Place, Queen Street.

Me too, don’t tell everyone though 😁

[Beefster]

Can I remind everyone to complete the survey about extending bus lanes to 7am-7pm every day. If someone could post a link.....

https://consultationhub.edinburgh.gov.uk/sfc/bus-lane-operational-hours/

[ACLeith]

https://consultationhub.edinburgh.gov.uk/sfc/bus-lane-operational-hours/

Thanks for the link. Submitted, though I expect it will be ignored, is it a real consultation or a a pretendy one!

[JimBHibees]

https://consultationhub.edinburgh.gov.uk/sfc/bus-lane-operational-hours/

Completed also, just takes a few minutes.

[One Day Soon]

https://consultationhub.edinburgh.gov.uk/sfc/bus-lane-operational-hours/


Done. We can but live in hope...

[GreenCastle]

Traffic going to be bad tomorrow most routes.

My advice give plenty of time trying to get to game.

Avoid anywhere near Cannonmills at temp lights around there till Monday meaning delays also.

[we are hibs]

Traffic going to be bad tomorrow most routes.

My advice give plenty of time trying to get to game.

Avoid anywhere near Cannonmills at temp lights around there till Monday meaning delays also.



Going to be worse trying to get away. At least going people arrive at different times but the amount of people trying to leave Leith at the same time tomorrow is going to be horrendous.

[Billy Whizz]

Done

[cabbageandribs1875]

Traffic going to be bad tomorrow most routes.

My advice give plenty of time trying to get to game.

Avoid anywhere near Cannonmills at temp lights around there till Monday meaning delays also.


ta for that, my normal route

[NGP]

Another note for tomorrow for those who use the Bathgate / Livi / Uphall Trainline, it's a bus replacement service all day, East bound trains are stopping at Bathgate then bus from there.
Livi South line running as usual.

[GreenCastle]

ta for that, my normal route

20 min delays this morning - backed up to Ferry Road junction. Add in possible school sports traffic tomorrow and could be very busy.

Agreed traffic after game possibly going to be worse but still except bus and any car journeys to be longer tomorrow due to the mess the city is currently in with construction and road works / roads closed.

[cabbageandribs1875]

20 min delays this morning - backed up to Ferry Road junction. Add in possible school sports traffic tomorrow and could be very busy.

Agreed traffic after game possibly going to be worse but still except bus and any car journeys to be longer tomorrow due to the mess the city is currently in with construction and road works / roads closed.


arrrgh :(, just half a dozen cars at traffic lights in bathgate is a major tailback for me, any idea what eyre place could be like, usually come down rodney street on way back

[GreenCastle]

arrrgh :(, just half a dozen cars at traffic lights in bathgate is a major tailback for me, any idea what eyre place could be like, usually come down rodney street on way back

When I say cannonmills - it’s closer to Inverleith Terrace / Inverleith row.

Eyre Place was fine as far as I’m aware.

[weecounty hibby]

This may actually put folk off attending the games. I drive from Allow and park at Tesco at the foot of ER. It can be a nightmare at the best if times and can take me till 6:30 to get home. I can see this being a 7 o'clock at least trip. To make things worse my son has fractured a bone in his foot and is struggling to walk so we will be even later than usual back to the car

[GreenCastle]

This may actually put folk off attending the games. I drive from Allow and park at Tesco at the foot of ER. It can be a nightmare at the best if times and can take me till 6:30 to get home. I can see this being a 7 o'clock at least trip. To make things worse my son has fractured a bone in his foot and is struggling to walk so we will be even later than usual back to the car

If coming from Alloa I wouldn’t go as far down at that to park.

Park near Mcdonald Road - you can park in permit spaces on a weekend and usually lots of spaces. Avoids going to busy bit and quicker getting away after game.

[stoneyburn hibs]

Another note for tomorrow for those who use the Bathgate / Livi / Uphall Trainline, it's a bus replacement service all day, East bound trains are stopping at Bathgate then bus from there.
Livi South line running as usual.

Ffs
I was going to train it given what's been said on this thread, back to driving now.

Thanks for the heads up.

[crash]

If coming from Alloa I wouldn’t go as far down at that to park.

Park near Mcdonald Road - you can park in permit spaces on a weekend and usually lots of spaces. Avoids going to busy bit and quicker getting away after game.

I don't think you can park in permit spaces in Edinburgh unless you are a permit holder, even at weekends.

[Beefster]

Thanks for the link. Submitted, though I expect it will be ignored, is it a real consultation or a a pretendy one!

I’d wager it’s going to happen, no matter what. Edinburgh Council seem to love being seen to take action, irrespective of its effectiveness.

You never know though, I suppose.

[Beefster]

If coming from Alloa I wouldn’t go as far down at that to park.

Park near Mcdonald Road - you can park in permit spaces on a weekend and usually lots of spaces. Avoids going to busy bit and quicker getting away after game.

Unless there are signs stating that, I’d be very surprised. It’s basically parking for residents. Unless they all tootle off to The Hamptons for the weekends, they’re still paying for parking at the weekend.

[BlackSheep]

I don't think you can park in permit spaces in Edinburgh unless you are a permit holder, even at weekends.

This is correct. Its a common misconception.

[Green Badger]

I don't think you can park in permit spaces in Edinburgh unless you are a permit holder, even at weekends.

Is this restriction not only for zones 1-4 though? I thought for all other zones you could park in there on a Saturday. I've done it millions of times and never had a ticket. Note: any parking around ER would be N1 I think, so Saturday parking fine.

[snedzuk]

http://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/info/20276/parking_spaces/507/find_parking_bays

Use this link and find the spaces - in McDonald Road its different according to the north / south side of the street so youd need to read the plate signs when you get there.

[lord bunberry]

Unless there are signs stating that, I’d be very surprised. It’s basically parking for residents. Unless they all tootle off to The Hamptons for the weekends, they’re still paying for parking at the weekend.
Resident bays are only in force for the same time as the other restrictions in that zone. You can park in them all after 6:30pm and some after 5:30pm all of them on a Sunday.

[nellio]

This may actually put folk off attending the games. I drive from Allow and park at Tesco at the foot of ER. It can be a nightmare at the best if times and can take me till 6:30 to get home. I can see this being a 7 o'clock at least trip. To make things worse my son has fractured a bone in his foot and is struggling to walk so we will be even later than usual back to the car

Do you ever have any problems parking there? Its a 2 hour time limit. Is it enforced?

[RoYO!]

City of Edinburgh council looking to implement bus lanes

7 DAYS A WEEK,

7am-7pm!

Survey closes today!

https://consultationhub.edinburgh.gov.uk/sfc/bus-lane-operational-hours/consultation/intro/

Insta traffic jams any time of any day. Match days will be affected hugely by this.

They talk about bus journeys taking longer now- yes because they have to drive at 20mph!

[stuart-farquhar]

City of Edinburgh council looking to implement bus lanes

7 DAYS A WEEK,

7am-7pm!

Survey closes today!

https://consultationhub.edinburgh.gov.uk/sfc/bus-lane-operational-hours/consultation/intro/

Insta traffic jams any time of any day. Match days will be affected hugely by this.

They talk about bus journeys taking longer now- yes because they have to drive at 20mph!

Madness. And I'm a daily bus user.

This city has appalling traffic management. Inadequate signage, too few filter lights, no visible traffic wardens who actually help keep roads flowing and move on serial chancer parkers in loading bays etc. No direction or distance markers to different parts of town. And so on. The whole place is treated like a small market town. Glasgow however seems to decorate its streets with a plethora of bigup big city stuff, whilst having more roads built to reinforce this perception.

Edinburgh just reeks of a provincial mentality. Even our City Bypass, started in the 80's is incomplete and inadequate. No hard shoulder for the majority of the road, and a bloody roundabout. And no proper access to the Forth bridges. Small town stuff.

[GreenCastle]

I don't think you can park in permit spaces in Edinburgh unless you are a permit holder, even at weekends.

You 100% can park in the Permit Spaces when it’s not Pemit Time.

Most are 8.30am -5.30pm or 6.30 - Monday to Friday - park in them then without a Permit and you will get a ticket.

Only central Edinburgh has Permits for Saturday.
Don’t think any of Edinburgh has Permits for Sunday.

Saturday you can park single yellow lines or in Permit Spaces.

Just read the sign it tells you or check the meter.

[weecounty hibby]

Do you ever have any problems parking there? Its a 2 hour time limit. Is it enforced?

No, never had any bother. Loads of Hibbies park there on a Saturday. Can be a nightmare getting out sometimes though

[weecounty hibby]

If coming from Alloa I wouldn’t go as far down at that to park.

Park near Mcdonald Road - you can park in permit spaces on a weekend and usually lots of spaces. Avoids going to busy bit and quicker getting away after game.
Cheers for that, but you are giving me more credit than I deserve. I have no idea about the street names in Edinburgh. Drop me somewhere and I can get about, but I only know the main road names.

[ancient hibee]

This is correct. Its a common misconception.
No it’s not:greengrin.

I live in a Mon/Fri area and weekends are fine for everyone
I often park in Hopetoun Crescent Off Macdonald Road.Always spaces.

[JXM73]

This may actually put folk off attending the games. I drive from Allow and park at Tesco at the foot of ER. It can be a nightmare at the best if times and can take me till 6:30 to get home. I can see this being a 7 o'clock at least trip. To make things worse my son has fractured a bone in his foot and is struggling to walk so we will be even later than usual back to the car

Same here, gonna let tram take city strain.. work or gyle car park...

[RoYO!]

City of Edinburgh council looking to implement bus lanes

7 DAYS A WEEK,

7am-7pm!

Survey closes today!

https://consultationhub.edinburgh.gov.uk/sfc/bus-lane-operational-hours/consultation/intro/

Insta traffic jams any time of any day. Match days will be affected hugely by this.

They talk about bus journeys taking longer now- yes because they have to drive at 20mph!

8 mins left to have your say!

[Scouse Hibee]

Left a bit earlier changed my route slightly and now sitting parked in my usual place, bet it’s not as easy after the game though.

[Scouse Hibee]

Horrendous after the game,bring back the roundabout, the traffic lights added about 20 odd minutes to my normal journey time home. However as we won it didn't bother me too much😀

[Billy Whizz]

Horrendous after the game,bring back the roundabout, the traffic lights added about 20 odd minutes to my normal journey time home. However as we won it didn't bother me too much😀

It was a slow journey for me too. Up Leith Walk, turned right along to Pilrig, to join Ferry Rd. Lights at Newhaven Rd junction took forever
Once I got onto Queensferry Rd, it was easy

[DaveF]

Up to top of the walk then waited ages along Annandale and beyond. Not great.

[H113EE5]

40 minutes from Ocean Terminal to Tamsons on a 35. Gggrrrrrrr, least the fitba was entertaining

[Cataplana]

Jambo council trying to get their favourites back on track by ensuring Hibs are starved of fans.

[staunchhibby]

Just a shambles getting home after the match.An hour &15mins to get to ferryfield

[we are hibs]

Scandelous after the game.

[JXM73]

Went up round Arthur's Seat to straighton, back in alloa by 6pm...

[cabbageandribs1875]

parked in pilrig, 45 mins to get outta town, not too bad really, i always try nip along bonnington grove(it's easy to miss this side street)when coming up for the lights at newhaven road/ferry road

[J-C]

I parked the taxi at London Rd just down from Meadowbanks shops, 5 min walk through the back lane and out to work again, picked up 1st fare at Safari bar Abbeyhill :greengrin

[cabbageandribs1875]

I parked the taxi at London Rd just down from Meadowbanks shops, 5 min walk through the back lane and out to work again, picked up 1st fare at Safari bar Abbeyhill :greengrin



quick Q, when cabs are stuck in the congestion does the meter still run ? i have a funny feeling it probably does, asking for a friend etc

[weecounty hibby]

We left on 88 mins as added to the traffic situation my erse of a son has broken a bone in his foot so tried to beat the crowd a bit. Was quiet as we left the Tesco car park but still took us over an hour to get home to alloa. Edinburgh seems to be intent on making driving anywhere in the city as difficult as possible

[tamig]

We left on 88 mins as added to the traffic situation my erse of a son has broken a bone in his foot so tried to beat the crowd a bit. Was quiet as we left the Tesco car park but still took us over an hour to get home to alloa. Edinburgh seems to be intent on making driving anywhere in the city as difficult as possible

Its been a council crusade for donkeys years.

[patch1875]

quick Q, when cabs are stuck in the congestion does the meter still run ? i have a funny feeling it probably does, asking for a friend etc

Yes fare is time & distance.

[cabbageandribs1875]

Yes fare is time & distance.


ta :aok: i'l keep that in mind

[Nicho87]

Always park up at hermitage park area. Traffic on lochend road was bad.

Going back to Dunfermline, would the local guys think it’s better parking closer to pilrig area to try and miss the tram-works?

[SANH 1875]

got on a #44 at meadowbank at 5.05, got home at chesser at 6.45, brutal.

[J-C]

quick Q, when cabs are stuck in the congestion does the meter still run ? i have a funny feeling it probably does, asking for a friend etc

It goes onto a timer but we make more money moving, more fares more money, that's why cabbies always take routes that avoid congestion.

[GreenCastle]

Always park up at hermitage park area. Traffic on lochend road was bad.

Going back to Dunfermline, would the local guys think it’s better parking closer to pilrig area to try and miss the tram-works?

I would say so yes but Pilrig Street can be sometimes quite busy before and after too.

I find even parking car a few minutes away and a walk can be quicker than sitting in the post match traffic plus like bit more exercise.

[Scouse Hibee]

I have parked in Lochend road for years, quickly back to the car no problem getting down to roundabout, left at the bottom then right, left, right onto Jane Street and away really quick. Yesterday's experience is now making me rethink where I park in future.

[Keith_M]

If the council are trying to get people to use public transport, then they'll have to re-think that option.

I got a bus at Meadowbank after the game that takes the shorter route into town, round the back of Calton Hill, and is usually so much quicker than the London Road route.

We hit a traffic jam that stretched all the way back to New Parliament House and went from crawl to stop. We eventually persuaded the driver to let us off the bus and everybody walked the rest of the way... in the p1ssing rain.

I dread to think what it was like for people heading along London Road and up Leith Street.

[Jack]

If the council are trying to get people to use public transport, then they'll have to re-think that option.

I got a bus at Meadowbank after the game that takes the shorter route into town, round the back of Calton Hill, and is usually so much quicker than the London Road route.

We hit a traffic jam that stretched all the way back to New Parliament House and went from crawl to stop. We eventually persuaded the driver to let us off the bus and everybody walked the rest of the way... in the p1ssing rain.

I dread to think what it was like for people heading along London Road and up Leith Street.

I think there's been a few bus routes diverted along that way and there will be other vehicles too so I suspect that road will be a lot busier than usual for the foreseeable.

[Scouse Hibee]

New bus gate only in affect from tomorrow to try and ease the passage for buses going up Leith street to South At Andrew Street

[CockneyRebel]

got on a #44 at meadowbank at 5.05, got home at chesser at 6.45, brutal.


I got on a 5 on London Road and got off it 15 minutes later still on London Road. Walked up to Waterloo Place, across the bridge and down Cockburn Street and Fleshmarket Close and into the Halfway House. Phoned my pal who had stayed on the 5 and he was still on London Road! i think for my initiative I should be mentioned in despatches.

[BroxburnHibee]

New bus gate only in affect from tomorrow to try and ease the passage for buses going up Leith street to South At Andrew Street

Cant see what difference that will make as all traffic goes up Leith st anyway. Only option for cars is to turn down carlton road which has temp lights on it or to turn up north bridge.

I fully expect twitter to be full of congestion on north bridge stories tomorrow.

[Newhaven]

got on a #44 at meadowbank at 5.05, got home at chesser at 6.45, brutal.

Walked from London road to springwell house (where I got a 3 to clovenstone) and not one 44 past me.

Picardy place and leith St is in total gridlock. Fair play to bus drivers dealing with that everyday

[we are hibs]

Anyone know how the traffics been since they tried to change it up on Monday? Trying to plan ahead for saturday because ill be ****ed if im doing that farce again. Hows it like getting up leith walk and in and around elm row?

[Since90+2]

Anyone know how the traffics been since they tried to change it up on Monday? Trying to plan ahead for saturday because ill be ****ed if im doing that farce again. Hows it like getting up leith walk and in and around elm row?

An absolute nightmare.

[BroxburnHibee]

Anyone know how the traffics been since they tried to change it up on Monday? Trying to plan ahead for saturday because ill be ****ed if im doing that farce again. Hows it like getting up leith walk and in and around elm row?

The bus and taxi gate at the Balmoral is pretty much being ignored as no one is enforcing it.

[Billy Whizz]

Is York Place still closed westbound

[NthCarolinaHibs]

Is York Place still closed westbound

Re opens Sunday, I think..

[ancient hibee]

Temporary traffic lights on Holyrood side of Abbey Mount today.Tailback well into the park.

[Hibee87]

You can't turn right onto McDonald road if coming up Leith walk, need to either turn right at Pilrig church or at Elm row down Annandale street. Or up Easter road and along brunswick if you want to go straight over and along McDonald road.
And as someone else just said, right under the bridge at Abbeyhill causing a problem yesterday

[Bishop Hibee]

The lights at the bottom of Lochend Road have made it safer and easier for pedestrians. Handy for my stroll home after a post-match refreshment.

[Smartie]

By screwing up the traffic they’ve ensured that I walk there and back, getting me off my fat arse and doing some more exercise.

Every cloud and all that.

[Scouse Hibee]

Wait until the city bound side of Leith walk is completely closed to traffic for eighteen months, then the chaos will really start.

[Billy Whizz]

Wait until the city bound side of Leith walk is completely closed to traffic for eighteen months, then the chaos will really start.

Will that be from the roundabout at London Rd, or further down

[Carheenlea]

Temporary traffic lights on Holyrood side of Abbey Mount today.Tailback well into the park.

That’s a nuisance for our group. Travelling from Peebles that’s our preferred route so not good to hear.

[Scouse Hibee]

Will that be from the roundabout at London Rd, or further down

Full length of Leith walk, met the council today to discuss business disruption.

[bingo70]

Does BTG open after the game?

The club should stick on free teas and coffees for the drivers, let the crowds die down a bit while the non drivers could have a wee drink in the bar..

[tamig]

Full length of Leith walk, met the council today to discuss business disruption.

Outrageous. They must have spent a fortune on the pavements and resurfacing of Leith Walk after the botched phase 1 of the tram project. Now its all coming up again. Constitution Street looks like an evacuation zone just now. I wonder how the boozers and cafes there have been impacted in just the past couple of weeks. I feel for these businesses.

[Billy Whizz]

Outrageous. They must have spent a fortune on the pavements and resurfacing of Leith Walk after the botched phase 1 of the tram project. Now its all coming up again. Constitution Street looks like an evacuation zone just now. I wonder how the boozers and cafes there have been impacted in just the past couple of weeks. I feel for these businesses.

I had at business at the Gyle, when they were building the trams in that area. Part of the Gogar roundabout was closed when they had the dispute for a few years. Hurt the business badly, and it’s no longer trading

Council can reduce rates for a business on Leith Walk, but the landlords won’t, and if customers won’t travel to your business.....

[Gatecrasher]

I can't stand coming into Edinburgh, I have to for various reasons but it won't be long before I only come in when it's absolutely essential (sorry to say that doesn't include football) . I understand they are trying to get people out of their cars but until there is reasonable public transport in place all they are doing is annoying people and making the situation worse.

[Scouse Hibee]

I can't stand coming into Edinburgh, I have to for various reasons but it won't be long before I only come in when it's absolutely essential (sorry to say that doesn't include football) . I understand they are trying to get people out of their cars but until there is reasonable public transport in place all they are doing is annoying people and making the situation worse.

I find your comment strange as the bus service in Edinburgh is fantastic and probably the best of any U.K. city.

[Since90+2]

Full length of Leith walk, met the council today to discuss business disruption.

When is that due to start?

[stuart-farquhar]

I find your comment strange as the bus service in Edinburgh is fantastic and probably the best of any U.K. city.

Public transport is good. Slow at times but buses are 24hrs. Tram is fine especially to the airport. Train stations central and accessible.

Works for me.

[Keith_M]

I find your comment strange as the bus service in Edinburgh is fantastic and probably the best of any U.K. city.


Honestly? I suppose it's all a matter of opinion but Edinburgh's public transport system is quite poor.

Or maybe you just meant that the other UK cities have really bad services :)

[Since90+2]

Honestly? I suppose it's all a matter of opinion but Edinburgh's public transport system is quite poor.

Or maybe you just meant that the other UK cities have really bad services :)

Edinburgh's bus service is fantastic , the city itself is terribly designed for traffic but that's not Lothian buses fault.

[Gatecrasher]

I find your comment strange as the bus service in Edinburgh is fantastic and probably the best of any U.K. city.I think it's OK and that entirely depends where in the city you want to go. It pales in comparison with some similar sized cities in the UK and Europe many of whom have metros or above ground railways to work in parallel with buses and trams. The buses are frequent but often take a long time to get anywhere, it's not unheard of to take 15 to 20 minutes just to get from the foot of the walk to the top.

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[PatHead]

Edinburgh's bus service is fantastic , the city itself is terribly designed for traffic but that's not Lothian buses fault.

On certain routes such as the 26 or 44 the service is fantastic but on many other routes like out to Midlothian it is poor off peak.

[Keith_M]

On certain routes such as the 26 or 44 the service is fantastic but on many other routes like out to Midlothian it is poor off peak.


Try getting a number 30 into town. It used to take me 40 minutes to go the 3 miles to my work on that route.

The problem was that there was no viable alternative (e.g suburban trains, trams, underground).

Then there's buying a ticket; exact fare and on the bus only.

There's also no concept of an integrated transport system, where you buy a ticket in advance and it's valid from point to point, so you could switch between different bus services, or even the train.

[we are hibs]

Didnt have much trouble getting down Leith street last week. It was after the game that it was a pain in the arse. Is it generally just going upwards towards princes street/ north bridge thats causing problems or is it both ways and i just got lucky?

[Cataplana]

Try getting a number 30 into town. It used to take me 40 minutes to go the 3 miles to my work on that route.

The problem was that there was no viable alternative (e.g suburban trains, trams, underground).

Then there's buying a ticket; exact fare and on the bus only.

There's also no concept of an integrated transport system, where you buy a ticket in advance and it's valid from point to point, so you could switch between different bus services, or even the train.

You can pay using contactless and it caps your fare at the price of a day saver once you've made three journeys.

[EdinMike]

You can pay using contactless and it caps your fare at the price of a day saver once you've made three journeys.

Which is the best thing they’ve done, albeit late to the game.

[J-C]

This corrupt clowncil have went out their way to disrupt transport especially cars at every opportunity. A series of bizarre road closures and changes, the ludicrous 20 zone all over Edinburgh means there's more traffic jams and pollution than ever before. As long as we keep the tourists happy with pedestrian streets once a month, disruption with filming and general pandering to cyclists and tourists, this city is the worst I've ever seen it. If I didn't live and work here, I'd never come near the place, taken a beautiful city and turned it into a car park.

[gramskiwood]

Honestly? I suppose it's all a matter of opinion but Edinburgh's public transport system is quite poor.

Or maybe you just meant that the other UK cities have really bad services :)

We have a great bus service in Edinburgh. I don't drive so I've relied on it for most of my life.

[GreenCastle]

Bus service pretty good.

The old town especially wasn’t designed for the volumes we have these days.

These new larger buses also take up a large amount of space on already congested roads.

I do agree the council is basically making it as hard as possible for people to use cars so people use other ways to travel - any way to avoid a congestion charge. I’m not against that but many people’s jobs do require to travel through centre plus many jobs can’t reply on transport like buses / trams as people use vans etc.

I’ve always thought the old railway line would have been perfect for tram network but they decided otherwise.

[Mr Grieves]

This corrupt clowncil have went out their way to disrupt transport especially cars at every opportunity. A series of bizarre road closures and changes, the ludicrous 20 zone all over Edinburgh means there's more traffic jams and pollution than ever before. As long as we keep the tourists happy with pedestrian streets once a month, disruption with filming and general pandering to cyclists and tourists, this city is the worst I've ever seen it. If I didn't live and work here, I'd never come near the place, taken a beautiful city and turned it into a car park.

TBH I find being a pedestrian/cyclist in Edinburgh unpleasant as there's so many selfish drivers. The council haven't been harsh enough IMO. Vehicles parked on cycle lanes and pavements, running red lights at crossings and speeding are all just accepted. And do any drivers in Edinburgh know what a zebra crossing is?

[tamig]

Bus service pretty good.

The old town especially wasn’t designed for the volumes we have these days.

These new larger buses also take up a large amount of space on already congested roads.

I do agree the council is basically making it as hard as possible for people to use cars so people use other ways to travel - any way to avoid a congestion charge. I’m not against that but many people’s jobs do require to travel through centre plus many jobs can’t reply on transport like buses / trams as people use vans etc.

I’ve always thought the old railway line would have been perfect for tram network but they decided otherwise.
Far too simple an idea and it wouldn’t have disrupted drivers as much. So a non-starter for our car loving council.

[tamig]

TBH I find being a pedestrian/cyclist in Edinburgh unpleasant as there's so many selfish drivers. The council haven't been harsh enough IMO. Vehicles parked on cycle lanes and pavements, running red lights at crossings and speeding are all just accepted. And do any drivers in Edinburgh know what a zebra crossing is?
Running red lights at crossings? I wonder which group of road users are guilty of that most often?

[ACLeith]

This corrupt clowncil have went out their way to disrupt transport especially cars at every opportunity. A series of bizarre road closures and changes, the ludicrous 20 zone all over Edinburgh means there's more traffic jams and pollution than ever before. As long as we keep the tourists happy with pedestrian streets once a month, disruption with filming and general pandering to cyclists and tourists, this city is the worst I've ever seen it. If I didn't live and work here, I'd never come near the place, taken a beautiful city and turned it into a car park.
Agree with this JC. Some areas are well served, others aren't. Bottom of Easter Road has been turned from something that worked, with pedestrian lights on each of the four roads, into a disaster area that I avoid at all costs

[Mr Grieves]

We have a great bus service in Edinburgh. I don't drive so I've relied on it for most of my life.

:agree: It's good, my one complaint is just about bus hits princes street. They could do with some sort of circular service that passes between the areas outside the city centre.

[ACLeith]

And do any drivers in Edinburgh know what a zebra crossing is?
Yes

[Mr Grieves]

Running red lights at crossings? I wonder which group of road users are guilty of that most often?

Don't care, whoever does it is an erse.

[gramskiwood]

:agree: It's good, my one complaint is just about bus hits princes street. They could do with some sort of circular service that passes between the areas outside the city centre.

There used to be - 42/46 and 32/52, they were quite handy but I suppose they were underused.

[Mr Grieves]

Yes

Ah, cool. I must be unlucky and encounter the ones that don't every morning.

[Scouse Hibee]

Ah, cool. I must be unlucky and encounter the ones that don't every morning.

I’m guessing they would probably be cyclists as it seems the majority chose to ignore them, even more so than they ignore red lights in my experience. Car drivers do too but cyclists definitively have the upper hand in my experience of 31 years driving a vehicle.

[Cataplana]

Which is the best thing they’ve done, albeit late to the game.

I agree, it's no secret that TfE have been draining investment from the buses to fund the white elephant that takes twice as long to get to the airport as the 100 bus.

I really struggle with people that say our public transport is poor. I can get from Muirhouse to Tranent in under an hour by bus. I can get to the Airport in 25 minutes with the excellent 200.

Where the service falls down is congestion caused in the city centre, due to road closures, demonstrations, marches, fun fairs and parades. Given that Princes Street is a natural hub for the buses, it is beyond belief how cavalier the council is in managing transport in the city centre.

As for tourists who do not have the nous to organise themselves, and treat buses like their own person information bureau, it's time to tell them to bolt. I've been standing for five minutes waiting to get a bus to a connection, whilst somebody holds up the entire queue.