Winter 2019-20 transfer thread

[Diclonius]

The temperature's just gone below freezing for the first time and we've been linked with a player so I'm calling it.

Confirmed in (5):
Adam Bogdan, one month contract (goalkeeper, Liverpool)
Greg Docherty, six month loan (midfielder, Rangers)
Paul McGinn, one and a half year contract (defender, St Mirren)
Marc McNulty, six month loan (striker, Reading)
Stephane Omeonga, six month loan (midfielder, Genoa)

Confirmed out (4):
Chris Maxwell (Preston)
Glenn Middleton (Rangers)
Oli Shaw (Ross County)
Josh Vela (Shrewsbury)

Confirmed returned from loan (4):
Tommy Block (Queen's Park)
Josh Campbell (Arbroath)
Jamie Gullan (Raith Rovers)
Ben Stirling (Arbroath)

Confirmed out on loan (5):
Florian Kamberi (Rangers)
Innes Murray (Airdrie)
Kosovar Sadiki (Finn Harps)
Ryan Shanley (Forfar)
Ben Stirling (Alloa)

Confirmed new contracts (1):
Adam Bogdan (six months)

Rumoured in:
Mickel Miller (midfielder, Hamilton)
Kevin Nisbet (striker, Dunfermline)
Ross Stewart (striker, Ross County)
Amos Youga (midfielder, Le Havre)

Rumoured out:
Martin Boyle (Celtic, Huddersfield)
Adam Jackson (Bolton)
Ofir Marciano
Fraser Murray (Dundee)
Jason Naismith (Peterborough)

Rumoured new contracts:
None

[Iggy Pope]

Take this nonsense away for at least a month.

[AugustaHibs]

Take this nonsense away for at least a month.

Agreed

[HendoDelivered]

Trial being handed to an Irish Striker, Michael O’connor...

[Haymaker]

:hyper

[CMurdoch]

The temperature's just gone below freezing for the first time and we've been linked with a player so I'm calling it.

Confirmed in (0):
None

Confirmed out (0):
None

Confirmed out on loan (0):
None

Confirmed new contracts (0):
None

Rumoured in:
Michael O'Connor (striker, Linfield)

Rumoured out:
None

Rumoured new contracts:
None

Hecky's bank card has been removed

[Joe6-2]

Take this nonsense away for at least a month.

Don’t, it’s a welcome respite from Hecky

[calumhibee1]

Don’t, it’s a welcome respite from Hecky

:agree:

Like you said, nice to have something different to discuss. Although I have no doubt it’ll descend into numerous declarations about how he should be removed as manager quickly enough.

[Hibeesmad]

Anyone think that sending Mackie out on loan was a bit of a weird decision, Stevenson is currently facing no pressure in that left back position, even though James and Whitts can play there, it’s not their natural position. Naismith was brought in as a result of Mackie going out, even though Whitts and James are natural right backs.

[The 90+2]

Anyone think that sending Mackie out on loan was a bit of a weird decision, Stevenson is currently facing no pressure in that left back position, even though James and Whitts can play there, it’s not their natural position. Naismith was brought in as a result of Mackie going out, even though Whitts and James are natural right backs.

You could say, it’s like somewhere, there’s people or a person that’s not got a scooby what they are doing. Mathie gets a promotion Leann keeps quiet, get pal leaves her role and Craig gets the gold watch and ends up like the guy from Speed.

[500miles]

Anyone think that sending Mackie out on loan was a bit of a weird decision, Stevenson is currently facing no pressure in that left back position, even though James and Whitts can play there, it’s not their natural position. Naismith was brought in as a result of Mackie going out, even though Whitts and James are natural right backs.

I think Mackie's future is seen as being in midfield. He's playing there on loan and in the development games.

[Diclonius]

I think Mackie's future is seen as being in midfield. He's playing there on loan and in the development games.

Where in midfield?

[500miles]

Where in midfield?

Left mid.

[Iggy Pope]

:agree:

Like you said, nice to have something different to discuss. Although I have no doubt it’ll descend into numerous declarations about how he should be removed as manager quickly enough.

Exactly.

[Speedway]

Left mid.

Replacement for Newell

[3pm]

Will throw a McGeouch / Vela swap in there... 👀

[Diclonius]

Will throw a McGeouch / Vela swap in there... 👀

You know something?

[3pm]

You know something?

No, not at all.

[calumhibee1]

James Morrison retired. I know a lot of folk mentioned him in the summer as someone we should be looking at.

[Unseen work]

I’d like to see us try and invest in some of the good young Scottish players coming through. Try make a real statement of intent by tying them up.

It’s a risk but I think they all have something in them

Daniel Harvie
Kyle Magennis
James Scott
Lewis Smith
Euan Henderson

I know they may have there sights on England, Old firm etc but look what we done for guys like McGinn, Liam Henderson etc

We need to start pinching them away like what Celtic and Rangers done to us over the years.

Shaw, Murray, Mackie etc have the attributes but they need to produce at the weekends like these guys do.

[Diclonius]

Bogdan expected to join and been linked with a couple more players.

[SMAXXA]

Bogdan expected to join and been linked with a couple more players.

Who’s the couple more?

[supermcginn]

Who’s the couple more?

Ambrose

[SMAXXA]

Ambrose

No seen that mentioned anywhere tbh

[SteveHFC]

No seen that mentioned anywhere tbh

Daily record.

[SMAXXA]

Daily record.

Today?

[SteveHFC]

Today?

Evening News also reporting it mate.

[SMAXXA]

Evening News also reporting it mate.

Perfect will try find it, would defo take that, we are talking about Ambrose now and not bogdan lol as seen bogdan one

[04Sauzee]

Evening News also reporting it mate.

The Ambrose story?

[WoreTheGreen]

Who’s the couple more?

That’s odd

[SteveHFC]

The Ambrose story?

Bogdan mate. :aok:

[Speedway]

We’ve had Michael O’Connor in and we’ve scouted some 21 year old striker from the English non-league.

[AgentDaleCooper]

I wonder if we'll see dylan return now that ross is coming...?

[Wheat Hound]

Lewis Morgan on loan in January a fair chance now.

[04Sauzee]

I wonder if we'll see dylan return now that ross is coming...?

I'd be surprised, didn't get much game time under Ross I don't think?

[CMurdoch]

I wonder if we'll see dylan return now that ross is coming...?

At least Ross will know how much cash he is on.
He will also know his fitness level, injuries detail etc.

[Iggy Pope]

At least Ross will know how much cash he is on.
He will also know his fitness level, injuries detail etc.

Also be interesting to see how Ross copes with dealing with every target Aberdeen are after.

[Hibeesmad]

Lewis Morgan on loan in January a fair chance now.

Morgan in Middleton out, could do a lot worse

[DJ HIBBY]

I'd be surprised, didn't get much game time under Ross I don't think?

Similar to Mallan at Barnsley under Hecky

[04Sauzee]

Similar to Mallan at Barnsley under Hecky

I'm getting your point although Mallan was here when Heckingbottom was appointed. Not sure Heckingbottom would have gone after him had he not already been here.

[Since452]

Morgan in Middleton out, could do a lot worse

Not seen nearly enough from Middleton sadly. Hopefully back to Rangers in January. Strange signing all round.

[hfc rd]

Morgan in Middleton out, could do a lot worse


Would take that.

[Diclonius]

This is going to be another window where that prick Jack Ross keeps going for our signing targets, isn't it. :rolleyes:

[Since452]

This is going to be another window where that prick Jack Ross keeps going for our signing targets, isn't it. :rolleyes:

😂

[hhibs]

Not seen nearly enough from Middleton sadly. Hopefully back to Rangers in January. Strange signing all round.



Rather think it was a panic move given Boyles injury ,expensive though,I would have thought we could have other options for the same kind of money.

[NORTHERNHIBBY]

Also be interesting to see how Ross copes with dealing with every target Aberdeen are after.


Ross should announce that his first job is to get James and Vela on to longer contracts.

[Smartie]

Not seen nearly enough from Middleton sadly. Hopefully back to Rangers in January. Strange signing all round.

I reckon he’d have been excellent in that team performance on Saturday.

He has been a disappointment but he’s shown talent in flashes and quite often been left very isolated out on the wing by the way we played.

My biggest concern with Ross is that we go straight back to doing what didn’t work before.

[MrRobot]

I reckon he’d have been excellent in that team performance on Saturday.

He has been a disappointment but he’s shown talent in flashes and quite often been left very isolated out on the wing by the way we played.

My biggest concern with Ross is that we go straight back to doing what didn’t work before.

How does he tend to set his team up?

[ian cruise]

I'd be surprised, didn't get much game time under Ross I don't think?

He convinced him to take up a year extension when Dylan could have moved for free last summer so them must have a decent relationship.

[The Leith Dutch]

How does he tend to set his team up?

Did I read someone saying that he's a fan of setting the team up around the players available
rather than slavishly sticking to a system even if he doesn't have the right players?

[jacomo]

We’ve got a lot of promising midfielders out on loan: Block, Hodge, Stirling, Campbell... maybe someone else I’ve forgotten?

Not sure if any can be recalled in January but I’m sure JR will take a look at them.

Also Sean Mackie out on loan, which always seemed a crazy decision to me.

Interesting that Hecky was apparently told there was nothing left in the kitty but Leeann now says we can do something in January. Did the Board lose faith in Hecky long before we punted him?

[Oscar T Grouch]

Morgan in Middleton out, could do a lot worse

We signed Glen for a season, he'll no be going back to the hun until the summer.

[franck sauzee]

Did I read someone saying that he's a fan of setting the team up around the players available
rather than slavishly sticking to a system even if he doesn't have the right players?

Yeah said it in his interview with the Athletic

[yerauldda]

I hope Jack Ross continues the trend of successfully signing our transfer targets.

[The Leith Dutch]

Yeah said it in his interview with the Athletic

Good to hear.

Was certainly one of my gripes with PH - felt like he had his formation he played and players were expected to
play in those positions regardless of whether it suited their skillset.

[The Modfather]

Gregg Docherty not getting a look in at Rangers this season. Probably not a realistic target given how much they would want for him but would love to sign him.

[Diclonius]

Gregg Docherty not getting a look in at Rangers this season. Probably not a realistic target given how much they would want for him but would love to sign him.

Would be a great signing, and exactly what we need.

[hfc rd]

We’ve got a lot of promising midfielders out on loan: Block, Hodge, Stirling, Campbell... maybe someone else I’ve forgotten?

Not sure if any can be recalled in January but I’m sure JR will take a look at them.

Also Sean Mackie out on loan, which always seemed a crazy decision to me.

Interesting that Hecky was apparently told there was nothing left in the kitty but Leeann now says we can do something in January. Did the Board lose faith in Hecky long before we punted him?


Judging from his performance in the Dundee derby last week and what the Dundee fans are saying about Mackie, then I’m not surprised that we let him go on loan as he looks nowhere near ready for a regular 1st team spot.

[Cataplana]

I wonder if we'll see dylan return now that ross is coming...?

Dylan McGeoch would get injured on A Question of Sport. The only person that seemed to get round this was Neil Lennon, who was able to convince the guy he wasn't injured at all. It's all in his head.

Bottom line, if he returns we'll get about 10 games a season out of him.

[NAE NOOKIE]

Dylan McGeoch would get injured on A Question of Sport. The only person that seemed to get round this was Neil Lennon, who was able to convince the guy he wasn't injured at all. It's all in his head.

Bottom line, if he returns we'll get about 10 games a season out of him.

:faf: ..... Brilliant :greengrin

[we are hibs]

Dylan McGeoch would get injured on A Question of Sport. The only person that seemed to get round this was Neil Lennon, who was able to convince the guy he wasn't injured at all. It's all in his head.

Bottom line, if he returns we'll get about 10 games a season out of him.

Weird you think we would only get 10 games out of someone whos played more than 10 games every year since 2014.

[Barman Stanton]

Dylan McGeoch would get injured on A Question of Sport. The only person that seemed to get round this was Neil Lennon, who was able to convince the guy he wasn't injured at all. It's all in his head.

Bottom line, if he returns we'll get about 10 games a season out of him.

Bottom Line, this is how many games he played for Hibs:

2014: 26
2015: 30
2016: 23
2017: 42

Hardly 10 games a season.

[Speedway]

Bottom Line, this is how many games he played for Hibs:

2014: 26
2015: 30
2016: 23
2017: 42

Hardly 10 games a season.

Yeah but the point is that if he’d missed about two thirds of the games he played for us, he’d only have played about 10 games a season.

[The_Exile]

I always find it funny how players in the last years of their contracts play practically every game possible.

[brog]

Judging from his performance in the Dundee derby last week and what the Dundee fans are saying about Mackie, then I’m not surprised that we let him go on loan as he looks nowhere near ready for a regular 1st team spot.

I thought Sean was just about Dee's best player last week & he was outstanding when he came on against Morton previously. I do think however his best position would be as wingback in a 352.

[Northernhibee]

Dylan McGeoch would get injured on A Question of Sport. The only person that seemed to get round this was Neil Lennon, who was able to convince the guy he wasn't injured at all. It's all in his head.

Bottom line, if he returns we'll get about 10 games a season out of him.

Complete bollocks - Dylan has/had a hip issue that requires corrective action that could see him out for months. Dylan reportedly felt very badly treated and now he's at Sunderland warming the bench as opposed to improving us.

[MWHIBBIES]

Dylan McGeoch would get injured on A Question of Sport. The only person that seemed to get round this was Neil Lennon, who was able to convince the guy he wasn't injured at all. It's all in his head.

Bottom line, if he returns we'll get about 10 games a season out of him.

Nonsense. Absolute rubbish. A horrible way to speak about a real Hibs legend as well.

[Marvellous]

Yeah but the point is that if he’d missed about two thirds of the games he played for us, he’d only have played about 10 games a season.

And that's the bottom line.

[Onceinawhile]

and that's the bottom line.

what?

[hibeejeebies]

And that's the bottom line.

Cos Speedway said so.

[04Sauzee]

Jim Goodwin issues hands off Kyle Magennis warning to Hibs even though as far as I'm aware Hibs haven't shown and interest

[Diclonius]

Jim Goodwin issues hands off Kyle Magennis warning to Hibs even though as far as I'm aware Hibs haven't shown and interest

Yup, that's a weird one. Preemptive maybe.

[Peevemor]

Jim Goodwin issues hands off Kyle Magennis warning to Hibs even though as far as I'm aware Hibs haven't shown and interest


Yup, that's a weird one. Preemptive maybe.

The majority of Hibs recent signings have been made with the greatest discretion with almost no leaks wwhatsoever.

It could well be that we've been sniffing about and Goodwin's got wind of it.

[Unseen work]

Magennis is someone iv mentioned before and is the exact type of player we should be going for imo.

Young, talented, Scottish and plenty of potential.

Captained St Mirren and also good experience with the Scottish youth teams.

[04Sauzee]

The majority of Hibs recent signings have been made with the greatest discretion with almost no leaks wwhatsoever.

It could well be that we've been sniffing about and Goodwin's got wind of it.

21 with 2 years left on his contract, if he's thiught of that highly if woukd take a fair chunk of money to get him in.

[southsider]

Money talks. A SJM type off and he will be ER bound.

[ian cruise]

Yup, that's a weird one. Preemptive maybe.

I think it's almost to start the ball rolling with a bid, St Mirren know they can get cash from us or use us to start a bidding war, no one has come in for him yet and they've not sold anyone for a decent amount of money for a while (McGinn sell on probably their last bit of decent cash) so get people thinking about Hibs buying him and then when they do, hopefully drive up the price.

[Diclonius]

Mind this time five years ago when we were trying to sign Jim Goodwin himself?

[Spudster]

Money talks. A SJM type off and he will be ER bound.

SJM was out of contract so a very different situation.

[MyJo]

SJM was out of contract so a very different situation.

St Midden were still due compensation from us as he was developed through their youth system. The amount it was going to cost put off other clubs Scotland and he was close to moving to MLS I believe as they wouldn't have had to pay anything for him.

We ultimately settled on an arrangement that included the high sell-on percentage which could end up earning them several million quid if Mcginn moves from Villa for big money and they are due a cut of our profits from that too.

Given that, I can imagine they would be open to a reasonable transfer fee from us and similar type of sell-on arrangement if we do go for Magennis.

[Jones28]

Mind this time five years ago when we were trying to sign Jim Goodwin himself?

*shudders

[Since452]

Magennis is someone iv mentioned before and is the exact type of player we should be going for imo.

Young, talented, Scottish and plenty of potential.

Captained St Mirren and also good experience with the Scottish youth teams.

I like this type of signing. If true i feel really positive already. The lad only needs to see where John McGinn is at now to see how good a move to Hibs would be.

[MacGruber]

Can see Magennis being a good signing.
Hopefully now Ross is on board with some more lessons learned from the recruitment team we will see some exciting players coming in.

In a parallel universe we could be signing Efe just now having also been opportunistic when it looked like there was possibility to have had Cummings & McGeough back adding to Glen Kamara, Shankland and Lewis Morgan. There was a groundswell for us moving for all these players on here before they were beyond us like some of them are now.

What's my point? I don't really know. The alarm has just went off and I'm half asleep and rambling

[SMAXXA]

St Midden were still due compensation from us as he was developed through their youth system. The amount it was going to cost put off other clubs Scotland and he was close to moving to MLS I believe as they wouldn't have had to pay anything for him.

We ultimately settled on an arrangement that included the high sell-on percentage which could end up earning them several million quid if Mcginn moves from Villa for big money and they are due a cut of our profits from that too.

Given that, I can imagine they would be open to a reasonable transfer fee from us and similar type of sell-on arrangement if we do go for Magennis.

Why would they be due several million if he leaves villa they already got their sell on cut when we sold him to villa. Many sell on clauses do you think they have, it’s only Rod that negotiated sell on after sell on 😂

[Spudster]

St Midden were still due compensation from us as he was developed through their youth system. The amount it was going to cost put off other clubs Scotland and he was close to moving to MLS I believe as they wouldn't have had to pay anything for him.

We ultimately settled on an arrangement that included the high sell-on percentage which could end up earning them several million quid if Mcginn moves from Villa for big money and they are due a cut of our profits from that too.

Given that, I can imagine they would be open to a reasonable transfer fee from us and similar type of sell-on arrangement if we do go for Magennis.
Can't understand how you think that's a similar situation? Magennis has two years left on his contract. They have no need to sell let alone for next to nothing with a potential sell on. Sort of thing Celtic fans say about other clubs players IMO.

[brog]

Why would they be due several million if he leaves villa they already got their sell on cut when we sold him to villa. Many sell on clauses do you think they have, it’s only Rod that negotiated sell on after sell on ��

No, its pretty standard. You get a % of the profit made by the seller. If we get more money from an SJM sell on, then that's more profit & St M get more money.

[Marvellous]

No, its pretty standard. You get a % of the profit made by the seller. If we get more money from an SJM sell on, then that's more profit & St M get more money.

It depends on the deal we negotiated with St Mirren. They might be due more money, they might not. Don't think I've heard from anyone who knows definitively either way.

[Since452]

No, its pretty standard. You get a % of the profit made by the seller. If we get more money from an SJM sell on, then that's more profit & St M get more money.

Yup. Sure we benefited from each of Fletchers transfers

[MyJo]

Why would they be due several million if he leaves villa they already got their sell on cut when we sold him to villa. Many sell on clauses do you think they have, it’s only Rod that negotiated sell on after sell on 😂

Sell-on fees are often worded as “X% of transfer profit” if that’s the type of arrangement we have with them then the money we earn from our sell-on clause with Villa would be considered transfer profit and we would be due the appropriate percentage of that amount to St Mirren.

Not claiming to know the ins and outs of our deal with St Mirren but I believe that’s the way it tends to work and why we kept getting payments for Steven Fletcher when he moved clubs and Dundee United & Queens Park got payments when Andy Robertson moved to Liverpool etc

[MWHIBBIES]

No, its pretty standard. You get a % of the profit made by the seller. If we get more money from an SJM sell on, then that's more profit & St M get more money.

It depends 100% on the deal, they are all unique, nothing is standard.

[MyJo]

Can't understand how you think that's a similar situation? Magennis has two years left on his contract. They have no need to sell let alone for next to nothing with a potential sell on. Sort of thing Celtic fans say about other clubs players IMO.

It’s a similar situation in that money needs to be paid to St Mirren in order for us to secure the transfer of the player.

Nobody said we would be paying them next to nothing, if you read my post again you’ll see that I suggested we could arrange a “reasonable transfer fee” with the decent sell-on clause.

St Mirren don’t need to sell to us if they don’t want to just like they didn’t have to accept our offer to allow us to sign McGinn and we didn’t have to accept Villa’s offer for a player still under contract with us that we valued at £5m but deals were done that benefited the clubs and player.

We can offer the player better money and potential opportunities than St Mirren and while St Mirren would like to keep the player if we can give them a transfer package that is acceptable to them then they will sell him to us.

The last deal we made to sign one of the their players benefited them greatly so I’m assuming they would be receptive to dealing with us again but they might also get a better offer from elsewhere. Either way I can’t see them allowing him to leave at the end of his contract after next season.

Cant see how you can compare that to Celtic fans approach that other clubs should just be grateful for whatever derisory offer Celtic decide to make for their star players who are actually not good enough anyway and their decision to sign them is almost done out of pity.

[MWHIBBIES]

It's nothing like the Mcginn Transfer, it's far more like Kenny McLean to Aberdeen.

[J-C]

All sell ons are different, I'm pretty sure Leeann stated they will get no more from any McGinn sell on % that we arranged with Villa.

[Speedway]

I trust we’ve retained Rod to negotiate all our deals even though he’s gone, right?

[GloryGlory]

All sell ons are different, I'm pretty sure Leeann stated they will get no more from any McGinn sell on % that we arranged with Villa.

Yep. It could be SM got a big percentage for McGinn upfront when he was first transferred instead of a smaller percentage for every transfer.

[Unseen work]

It's nothing like the Mcginn Transfer, it's far more like Kenny McLean to Aberdeen.

Absolutely, it’s nothing like McGinn unless Steven thompson fancies spearing Magennis too :greengrin

With 1.5 years left on his contract it would take a fair chunk of a fee to get him to us so would show some intent on our part. Hopefully we can agree a good deal whether it’s a sell on % or giving them a player in return.

[04Sauzee]

Absolutely, it’s nothing like McGinn unless Steven thompson fancies spearing Magennis too :greengrin

With 1.5 years left on his contract it would take a fair chunk of a fee to get him to us so would show some intent on our part. Hopefully we can agree a good deal whether it’s a sell on % or giving them a player in return.

Is he actually any good? I know he's highly rated so when St Mirren play us or when they are on TV I try to watch him but he's never stood out for me. I see he's listed as a right sided midfielder x

[Unseen work]

Is he actually any good? I know he's highly rated so when St Mirren play us or when they are on TV I try to watch him but he's never stood out for me. I see he's listed as a right sided midfielder x

I certainly rate him.

For me he is more suited to being part of a 3 in the centre of midfield to an out and out winger. He’s good technically on the ball with a good strike on him, very good athletically and is good at getting around the park and pressing the game. Likes getting on the ball and driving at the opposition too.

Is he exactly what we’re missing? No probably not as we’re more missing a defensive minded midfielder imo but there is plenty potential there and he only turned 21 in the summer. I know some of their fans thought he would be the best of their recent patch of good youngsters coming through but think his injuries slightly stalled him.

Theyve certainly had a golden generation over there too with McGinn, McLean, Morgan, Mallan, McAllister, and Magennis.

[MacGruber]

I certainly rate him.

For me he is more suited to being part of a 3 in the centre of midfield to an out and out winger. He’s good technically on the ball with a good strike on him, very good athletically and is good at getting around the park and pressing the game. Likes getting on the ball and driving at the opposition too.

Is he exactly what we’re missing? No probably not as we’re more missing a defensive minded midfielder imo but there is plenty potential there and he only turned 21 in the summer. I know some of their fans thought he would be the best of their recent patch of good youngsters coming through but think his injuries slightly stalled him.

Theyve certainly had a golden generation over there too with McGinn, McLean, Morgan, Mallan, McAllister, and Magennis.

Imagine they would be even better if they didn't limit themselves to 'M' in the directory

[we are hibs]

Can he tackle? Or is at least willing to?

[hfc rd]

I certainly rate him.

For me he is more suited to being part of a 3 in the centre of midfield to an out and out winger. He’s good technically on the ball with a good strike on him, very good athletically and is good at getting around the park and pressing the game. Likes getting on the ball and driving at the opposition too.

Is he exactly what we’re missing? No probably not as we’re more missing a defensive minded midfielder imo but there is plenty potential there and he only turned 21 in the summer. I know some of their fans thought he would be the best of their recent patch of good youngsters coming through but think his injuries slightly stalled him.

Theyve certainly had a golden generation over there too with McGinn, McLean, Morgan, Mallan, McAllister, and Magennis.


They certainly do love their M’s

[sean04]

Just checked up on Omeonga, team is bottom of the league and he has hardly played. Mostly on the bench and sometimes not in the squad. Waste of 6months for the lad

[Hibeesmad]

Just checked up on Omeonga, team is bottom of the league and he has hardly played. Mostly on the bench and sometimes not in the squad. Waste of 6months for the lad

McGeough also on the bench again this weekend with no game time. Waste of really good players, but money talks.

[HibbyAndy]

Just checked up on Omeonga, team is bottom of the league and he has hardly played. Mostly on the bench and sometimes not in the squad. Waste of 6months for the lad


McGeough also on the bench again this weekend with no game time. Waste of really good players, but money talks.

Money talks i'm afraid

Omeonga was different class at Hibs But would probably sacrifice more game time for cash , Sad but true , Rated this guy , But £££ talk

[Unseen work]

Devante Cole from Motherwell is only on loan till January which is contract at Wigan ending in the summer. Sort of player we need imo.

[CapitalGreen]

Devante Cole from Motherwell is only on loan till January which is contract at Wigan ending in the summer. Sort of player we need imo.

Thought he looked awful yesterday, would be disappointed if that’s the level we bring in.

[Unseen work]

Thought he looked awful yesterday, would be disappointed if that’s the level we bring in.

Awful? Really?

Fair enough, I though him and the other winger Hylton caused us a lot of problems with their pace and directness, which is something we lack imo.

Wouldnt imagine it would break the bank to bring him in and would just be an additional option to the attacking third.

[Stuart93]

Thought he looked awful yesterday, would be disappointed if that’s the level we bring in.

Literally the only person I’ve seen with the opinion that he looked awful yesterday

[hibee-boys]

Thought he looked awful yesterday, would be disappointed if that’s the level we bring in.

I wish our wide men played as awful as that! Thought he looked dangerous every time he was on the ball.

[bingo70]

I wish our wide men played as awful as that! Thought he looked dangerous every time he was on the ball.

Don’t think he was a wide man? I thought he was played through the middle?

I never really notice players on the other team, I thought their left winger was excellent but apart from that couldn’t tell you if Cole was any good or not.

[Sioux]

Awful? Really?

Fair enough, I though him and the other winger Hylton caused us a lot of problems with their pace and directness, which is something we lack imo.

Wouldnt imagine it would break the bank to bring him in and would just be an additional option to the attacking third.

Horgan proved more effective than both of them.

[Heisenberg]

Cole is a striker who played out wide at times yesterday as he switched with the other striker Long. Thought he looked ok. Nothing spectacular.

[sean04]

Thought the guy Hylton? Playing against Naismith looked a handful

[CapitalGreen]

Literally the only person I’ve seen with the opinion that he looked awful yesterday

In that case I better change my opinion so it aligns with the people you’ve spoken too then 🙄. Widemen with a few flash skills in their locker are ten-a-penny, I’m more interested in end product. Motherwell’s wide players also offered zero protection to their full backs who were constantly exposed.

[Speedway]

Mikel Miller is still the one to watch development wise.

[SMAXXA]

Money talks i'm afraid

Omeonga was different class at Hibs But would probably sacrifice more game time for cash , Sad but true , Rated this guy , But £££ talk

If it was only as easy as that. He will have not had an option as Hibs couldn’t cover the required financials to make it happen so would hold fire casting aspersions on the player.

[mjhibby]

In that case I better change my opinion so it aligns with the people you’ve spoken too then 🙄. Widemen with a few flash skills in their locker are ten-a-penny, I’m more interested in end product. Motherwell’s wide players also offered zero protection to their full backs who were constantly exposed.

Agree about end product but if you set your team up with wingers you compensate in other areas. Well we're dangerous but we were clinical. Had we played like this a few weeks ago we would be near 4th in the league. Very frustrating how many points we've dropped. I know we had defensive injuries and porteous has made a big difference as has Naismith but so many potential wins turned into draws. Grrrr.

[Squealing pig]

Thought the guy Hylton? Playing against Naismith looked a handful

Defo if we could get him I'd be happy . Very exciting player

[SonOfDavidFrancey]

Interesting to hear Michael Stewart saying both on Saturday and on Sportscene that we need a centre half. Candidates?

[sean04]

Interesting to hear Michael Stewart saying both on Saturday and on Sportscene that we need a centre half. Candidates?

Hanlon beat far to easy in the 1st half, striker took him a run and blew him away

[GloryGlory]

Interesting to hear Michael Stewart saying both on Saturday and on Sportscene that we need a centre half. Candidates?

Darren Mcgregor? :wink:

[Stuart93]

Hanlon beat far to easy in the 1st half, striker took him a run and blew him away

Said that during the game, any centre half would’ve taken the guy out well before he got near the box if he couldn’t match him for pace. Hanlon is soft as ***** sometimes.

[GreenOnions]

Interesting to hear Michael Stewart saying both on Saturday and on Sportscene that we need a centre half. Candidates?

Yes - quite surprising - particularly after that match. The main problem on Saturday as far as I saw it was the number of balls we allowed to be played into our box - mainly from wide areas. I thought our central defenders won pretty much all of those.

I would have thought we need to be concentrating more on reducing the supply into danger areas.

[Blaster]

Yes - quite surprising - particularly after that match. The main problem on Saturday as far as I saw it was the number of balls we allowed to be played into our box - mainly from wide areas. I thought our central defenders won pretty much all of those.

I would have thought we need to be concentrating more on reducing the supply into danger areas.

That’s the risk of playing the diamond formation

[GreenOnions]

That’s the risk of playing the diamond formation

True. We need to be stronger at right back in particular if we're going to play that formation.

[J-C]

We need more pace at RB, Naismith is pretty slow, so is James and both stand off their opponent too much. Gray is going into the twilight of his career, si I'd be looking at a young RB with some pace and someone similar for LB( not sure how Mackie is getting on at Dundee). If Daz is going to start being more of a mentor/coach then maybe a young CH preferably a left footer to challenge Hanlon.

Personally I'd like to see us get rid of Vela and James and bring in a proper DM so sit in front of the back 4 and allow the rest to attack. Also send back Middleton, not a fan of loaning from teams we are in the same league as unless they're going to be better than what we have and he isn't.

[J-C]

That’s the risk of playing the diamond formation

I wonder how long we'll continue with this shape, especially with Boyle getting fitter and Horgan on the bench. I can see Ross shifting to a 4-3-3 with a front 3 of Flo, Doidge and Boyle, with Horgan and Shaw able to come in. This gives you Hallberg, Slivka, Mallan, Allan, Newell to cover the 3 midfield spots.

[brog]

I wonder how long we'll continue with this shape, especially with Boyle getting fitter and Horgan on the bench. I can see Ross shifting to a 4-3-3 with a front 3 of Flo, Doidge and Boyle, with Horgan and Shaw able to come in. This gives you Hallberg, Slivka, Mallan, Allan, Newell to cover the 3 midfield spots.

I said similar recently. The problem is if we do that & continue to use Scotty as a #10 then we run the risk of getting monstered in midfield. I think getting our shape right for the rest of this season will be as important as having the right players.

[B.H.F.C]

I wonder how long we'll continue with this shape, especially with Boyle getting fitter and Horgan on the bench. I can see Ross shifting to a 4-3-3 with a front 3 of Flo, Doidge and Boyle, with Horgan and Shaw able to come in. This gives you Hallberg, Slivka, Mallan, Allan, Newell to cover the 3 midfield spots.

If we continue to play like we have in the last two games the there is no need to change it. There are some decent players not getting a game but none of them are good enough to justify us completely changing the shape of the team to accommodate them.

[Smartie]

Yes - quite surprising - particularly after that match. The main problem on Saturday as far as I saw it was the number of balls we allowed to be played into our box - mainly from wide areas. I thought our central defenders won pretty much all of those.

I would have thought we need to be concentrating more on reducing the supply into danger areas.

That's how I saw it.

Our centre-halves (and general defending in the middle) kept us from being in deep trouble. I don't think I've seen a game where we've been opened up out wide as often, they seemed to have someone scampering to the byeline every five minutes without necessarily feeling like any of our fullbacks had a howler - they were just exposed. In spite of getting the better of us out wide, they didn't really do much to test our keeper from what were excellent attacking positions, partly due to their wastefulness, partly due to our good defending.

The one where Hanlon was torn apart was almost funny though. He was like Benny Hill chasing the wee guy back.

[Sioux]

If we continue to play like we have in the last two games the there is no need to change it. There are some decent players not getting a game but none of them are good enough to justify us completely changing the shape of the team to accommodate them.

We changed the shape of the team for the game against St Johnstone, and kept that shape on Saturday, but certainly didn't look secure defensively, We've loads of reasons to change something. Lost 24 goals in 13 league games and only once did the opposition fail to score. Having a policy of 'we'll score more than you' doesn't work.

Whatever system the manager comes up with, he needs to make the team more difficult to play against.

[BoltonHibee]

Interesting to hear Michael Stewart saying both on Saturday and on Sportscene that we need a centre half. Candidates?

We look poor at the back, Hanlon really isn’t at the races anymore and the wee man is struggling. Naismith is not the quickest either. I think it’s widely recognised that the defence is a real weak spot for us. Surprised that we haven’t pursued Ambrose really as him and Porteous would work at the back.


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[HoboHarry]

We look poor at the back, Hanlon really isn’t at the races anymore and the wee man is struggling. Naismith is not the quickest either. I think it’s widely recognised that the defence is a real weak spot for us. Surprised that we haven’t pursued Ambrose really as him and Porteous would work at the back.


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When was the last time Ambrose played? He'd be miles away from being match fit.

[Sioux]

That's how I saw it.

Our centre-halves (and general defending in the middle) kept us from being in deep trouble. I don't think I've seen a game where we've been opened up out wide as often, they seemed to have someone scampering to the byeline every five minutes without necessarily feeling like any of our fullbacks had a howler - they were just exposed. In spite of getting the better of us out wide, they didn't really do much to test our keeper from what were excellent attacking positions, partly due to their wastefulness, partly due to our good defending.

The one where Hanlon was torn apart was almost funny though. He was like Benny Hill chasing the wee guy back.

Other teams will likely make more of the opportunities M'well had. We need to limit the numerous passages of play where our defending was no better than passive. Having said that M'well moved the ball about quickly when attacking from midfield, and teams won't do that all the time.

So, more work needed. All imho, but there's no doubt whatsoever that the manager is far more competent to address that than I am.

[heretoday]

Efe would be a step back, unfortunately.
There must be younger, fitter guys than him about.

[BoltonHibee]

Efe would be one of the best centre backs in the league. Naturally fit guy, appreciate he will not be match fit at moment.

He’s available for nought,


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[neil7908]

Efe would be one of the best centre backs in the league. Naturally fit guy, appreciate he will not be match fit at moment.

He’s available for nought,


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Definitely take Efe back.

[erin go bragh]

When was the last time Ambrose played? He'd be miles away from being match fit.

He’s been training with a team in Nigeria .

[Vault Boy]

Efe would be a step back, unfortunately.
There must be younger, fitter guys than him about.

Younger and fitter? Certainly.

Available to Hibs and just as good or better? Very unlikely.

[The 90+2]

When was the last time Ambrose played? He'd be miles away from being match fit.

He would still be a step up from Hanlon who seems like he’s carrying an injury all the time.

[The 90+2]

Efe would be a step back, unfortunately.
There must be younger, fitter guys than him about.

Aye there’s loads, they grow on trees.

[MWHIBBIES]

He would still be a step up from Hanlon who seems like he’s carrying an injury all the time.

Hanlon had a better game than Porteous on Saturday, no reason for him to be dropped.

[B.H.F.C]

We changed the shape of the team for the game against St Johnstone, and kept that shape on Saturday, but certainly didn't look secure defensively, We've loads of reasons to change something. Lost 24 goals in 13 league games and only once did the opposition fail to score. Having a policy of 'we'll score more than you' doesn't work.

Whatever system the manager comes up with, he needs to make the team more difficult to play against.

I wouldn’t say the shape was the cause of any insecurity. We lost two goals in those two games. At St Johnstone, Stevenson watched the boy cross it and Hanlon let the striker in front of him. Against Motherwell, Slivka let the boy wander past him and they got a break of the ball. None of that was to do with shape. In those two games, Maxwell hasn’t had much else to do.

We’ve only adopted the we’ll score more than you policy for two games and it’s worked. Prior to that we set up defensively and still couldn’t keep a clean sheet.

Whatever the shape, we need better defenders IMO.

[BILLYHIBS]

Hanlon had a better game than Porteous on Saturday, no reason for him to be dropped.

:agree:

I thought young Porteous looked anxious nervous and under pressure at times on Saturday often opting just to boot the ball as hard as he could away from danger nothing wrong with that you might say but at times he had time to play the simple ball and retain possession by passing to a colleague in space

Hopefully back to his best tomorrow :greengrin

[The 90+2]

Hanlon had a better game than Porteous on Saturday, no reason for him to be dropped.

He has still went back a lot in the past year or so. Ambrose would be a far superior alternative and he would also be good for ROs development.

[HoboHarry]

He would still be a step up from Hanlon who seems like he’s carrying an injury all the time.
Aye, around March maybe. Keep on repeating the same thing if you want but how many games has he played since he left us?

[we are hibs]

We changed the shape of the team for the game against St Johnstone, and kept that shape on Saturday, but certainly didn't look secure defensively, We've loads of reasons to change something. Lost 24 goals in 13 league games and only once did the opposition fail to score. Having a policy of 'we'll score more than you' doesn't work.

Whatever system the manager comes up with, he needs to make the team more difficult to play against.



We arent great at the back and i think thats due to both personel and a lack of confidence rather than shape so we may as well set ourselves up to get the best out of our attacking players which we have done the last couple of games. The players will have overcome a big hurdle mentally on saturday imo. If that was a few weeks previously they wouldve equalised before we got the 3rd to kill it.

[B.H.F.C]

We arent great at the back and i think thats due to both personel and a lack of confidence rather than shape so we may as well set ourselves up to get the best out of our attacking players which we have done the last couple of games. The players will have overcome a big hurdle mentally on saturday imo. If that was a few weeks previously they wouldve equalised before we got the 3rd to kill it.

Earlier in the season we’d have been sitting hoping for the best, doing the same thing. On Saturday, we made subs and changed the shape to help things and it made all the difference. For all Motherwell had the ball, there were three clear chances in the second half and they were all for us so we must have defended reasonably well even if it didn’t feel comfortable at the time.

Agree the players will feel better for it.

[The 90+2]

Aye, around March maybe. Keep on repeating the same thing if you want but how many games has he played since he left us?

He’s probably played as many good games as Hanlon if that helps? Or do we just persist with a busted flush became a far superior player may be unfit?

Why would it take until March? When was the last time Bogdan played since he left or before he left? I assume you think his signing is worthless until January too aye?

[007]

Aye, around March maybe. Keep on repeating the same thing if you want but how many games has he played since he left us?

Ambrose has said he's been keeping fit by training with his 1st club in Nigeria. He 1st joined us on 28th Feb 2017 and hadn't played for 7 months. He played a full 90 minutes against St Mirren the very next day (we did lose 2-0 though :greengrin:) and played 90 in all the subsequent matches so I wouldn't be concerned about how quickly he can get up to speed.

[Gmack7]

St mirren after Lewis Morgan if he's available on loan I'm sure JR will be interested

[HoboHarry]

He’s probably played as many good games as Hanlon if that helps? Or do we just persist with a busted flush became a far superior player may be unfit?

Why would it take until March? When was the last time Bogdan played since he left or before he left? I assume you think his signing is worthless until January too aye?
You're capable of posting some good stuff but you are prone to kick your own credibility in the knackers with daft statements like the first sentence above. Secondly, if Hanlon needs to be replaced then I would rather we went and found someone with a potential sell on value. You know, like a good business model would consider.....

[SMAXXA]

I’d rest st Johnstone resolve and try sign Jason Kerr, sure he’s a hibbie aswell and at 22 got his best years ahead of him. Him and Porteous would be excellent imo

[Clarence]

I’d rest st Johnstone resolve and try sign Jason Kerr, sure he’s a hibbie aswell and at 22 got his best years ahead of him. Him and Porteous would be excellent imo

Impressive to be club captain at 22 although they are joint bottom of the league.

[SMAXXA]

Impressive to be club captain at 22 although they are joint bottom of the league.

Sure he’s not solely responsible for that 😂, Mcginn was at St Mirren mind

[04Sauzee]

I’d rest st Johnstone resolve and try sign Jason Kerr, sure he’s a hibbie aswell and at 22 got his best years ahead of him. Him and Porteous would be excellent imo

On this seasons performances I wouldn't want him anywhere near ER, if he can regain form and confidence he'd be worth a look.

[Billy Whizz]

I’d rest st Johnstone resolve and try sign Jason Kerr, sure he’s a hibbie aswell and at 22 got his best years ahead of him. Him and Porteous would be excellent imo

Good player

[brog]

IMO, the majority of Efe's best games were when he played as the spare man in a back 3. We're unlikely to go to that system in the near future. A half fit Efe trying to man mark doesn't fill me with confidence.

[04Sauzee]

IMO, the majority of Efe's best games were when he played as the spare man in a back 3. We're unlikely to go to that system in the near future. A half fit Efe trying to man mark doesn't fill me with confidence.

Correct right of a back 3 never a right back and wouldn't fill me with loads of confidence in the centre of a back 4.

That young boy Hearts had on loan last season Jimmy Dunne was decent, complete knob but very good.

[The 90+2]

You're capable of posting some good stuff but you are prone to kick your own credibility in the knackers with daft statements like the first sentence above. Secondly, if Hanlon needs to be replaced then I would rather we went and found someone with a potential sell on value. You know, like a good business model would consider.....

Thanks, appreciated.

That’s open to opinion, I would be happier if a more experienced head came in that helped develop our young outstanding prospect at centre half beside him. I can’t remember the last time we actually centre half that matched your description either. I’m not looking to argue as I like you in here, so that’s that from me 👍

[Iggy Pope]

I’d rest st Johnstone resolve and try sign Jason Kerr, sure he’s a hibbie aswell and at 22 got his best years ahead of him. Him and Porteous would be excellent imo

He is. I believe he has his allegiance ‘illustrated’ on his skin!

[Clarence]

Sure he’s not solely responsible for that 😂, Mcginn was at St Mirren mind

It’s an indication that he might not have a lot of competition for the captaincy.

[J-C]

https://twitter.com/HibernianFC/status/1199019282086191109

A wee tease by Hibernian maybe ?

[04Sauzee]

https://twitter.com/HibernianFC/status/1199019282086191109

A wee tease by Hibernian maybe ?

To be honest I'm not reading to much into that. I liked Omeonga and as I said on another thread he'd play well in a Diamond. I know quite a few Hibs fans didn't rate him much

[The 90+2]

To be honest I'm not reading to much into that. I liked Omeonga and as I said on another thread he'd play well in a Diamond. I know quite a few Hibs fans didn't rate him much

Why would the fishy twitter use comparisons with them then? I definitely read something into that.

The answer by the way is Kamberi.

[Stuart93]

https://twitter.com/HibernianFC/status/1199019282086191109

A wee tease by Hibernian maybe ?

Meh they still talk about John Mcginn all the time and he’s no coming back

[The 90+2]

Meh they still talk about John Mcginn all the time and he’s no coming back

I can’t see a comparison poll between McGinn and Doidge anywhere to be fair :greengrin

[weecounty hibby]

Meh they still talk about John Mcginn all the time and he’s no coming back

Don't say that FFS, I still harbour hope that he will get fed up earning £100k+ per week and just be happy to pull on the famous green jersey again
Not fussed about Omeonga, I didn't rate him that highly. Thought he was full of effort but was prone to giving the ball away.

[04Sauzee]

Why would the fishy twitter use comparisons with them then? I definitely read something into that.

The answer by the way is Kamberi.

OK then 👀

[Unseen work]

Iv said before I’d like to see Jason Kerr at Hibs, think he’s a good young player with lots of potential. Either him or Jack Hendry would be very good additions imo.

If St Mirren are trying to get Morgan we should 100% be trying to get in ahead of them.

Omeonga - Great attitude and a very likeable character but I don’t rate him as highly as others do. Presses the game well and works hard but imo is a bit careless on the ball at times and seems to lack an end product (St Johnstone assist aside). He would be a good addition but I wouldn’t break the bank for him.

Be interesting to see how Ross sets up his team as we will then be able to see what players he is likely to go after. Imo the 442 diamond won’t last too long and we will revert to a 352.

[MrRobot]

Iv said before I’d like to see Jason Kerr at Hibs, think he’s a good young player with lots of potential. Either him or Jack Hendry would be very good additions imo.

If St Mirren are trying to get Morgan we should 100% be trying to get in ahead of them.

Omeonga - Great attitude and a very likeable character but I don’t rate him as highly as others do. Presses the game well and works hard but imo is a bit careless on the ball at times and seems to lack an end product (St Johnstone assist aside). He would be a good addition but I wouldn’t break the bank for him.

Be interesting to see how Ross sets up his team as we will then be able to see what players he is likely to go after. Imo the 442 diamond won’t last too long and we will revert to a 352.

Omeonga was great man and at his age will only improve. I
hope we are trying to bring him back. He got hibs and loved it here.

[jacomo]

Wow, Omeonga, Efe, Morgan and Jason Kerr. Add Leigh to the mix and I would consider January to be... acceptable.

:wink:

[bingo70]

Omeonga was great man and at his age will only improve. I
hope we are trying to bring him back. He got hibs and loved it here.

Yup, I think we played him wrong last year as well.

We relied on him as an attacking midfielder for creativity but I don’t think that was really his game. If he was allowed to just break up play, cover lots of ground and generally be a nuisance in midfield and then give the ball to Scott Allan I think there’s potentially a very good player in there.

Would be delighted if we could get him back.

[MWHIBBIES]

Correct right of a back 3 never a right back and wouldn't fill me with loads of confidence in the centre of a back 4.

That young boy Hearts had on loan last season Jimmy Dunne was decent, complete knob but very good.

He is less error prone than any other defender we have so I assume none of them fill you with confidence either? Efe had many excellent games as part of a back 4. I have no idea why people are trying to knock him down. When he was here he made by far the least errors of any of our defenders and was excellent in almost every game. I guess this bombscare tag from Celtic hasn't disappeared despite 86 games for Hibs, about 80 he was top class. Walks back into the side at right back or centre back.

[04Sauzee]

He is less error prone than any other defender we have so I assume none of them fill you with confidence either? Efe had many excellent games as part of a back 4. I have no idea why people are trying to knock him down. When he was here he made by far the least errors of any of our defenders and was excellent in almost every game. I guess this bombscare tag from Celtic hasn't disappeared despite 86 games for Hibs, about 80 he was top class. Walks back into the side at right back or centre back.

I'm not knocking him, if you have twitter or followed me on twitter you would have seen my tweets about him and my defence off him when others were having a go. He doesn't fill me with confidence In the centre of a back 4 he isn't a right back but on the right of a back 3 he was superb.
Never assume

[Brightside]

Hanlon had a better game than Porteous on Saturday, no reason for him to be dropped.

Come one now ....you arent allowed to point out the facts. Ask Porto if he thinks he's better than Hanlon. Hanlon gets out run by a striker - he's garbage. Porto makes a rash challenge after being caught wrong side - MOTM.

Paul Hanlon had a poor start to the season for his high standards. He has been easily as good as any other CB outside of Celtic for the last 6 weeks.

[Brightside]

Impressive to be club captain at 22 although they are joint bottom of the league.

St Johnstone that we scored 4 into recently?

[bigwheel]

Come one now ....you arent allowed to point out the facts. Ask Porto if he thinks he's better than Hanlon. Hanlon gets out run by a striker - he's garbage. Porto makes a rash challenge after being caught wrong side - MOTM.

Paul Hanlon had a poor start to the season for his high standards. He has been easily as good as any other CB outside of Celtic for the last 6 weeks.

I agree with a number of your points here..certainly
Porto will recognise what Paul brings to the game and the fact that he gets a harder time that Porto.we are usually better with him in the team
Imho

Quite a sweeping last compliment you make - feels
A bit of a stretch for me .....I’m sure the Gallacher’s of Motherwell and Killie , Hamilton’s etc will have performing CH’s that could make the same claim ....

[bingo70]

St Johnstone that we scored 4 into recently?

They highlighted how bad the St Johnstone defenders have been before the Aberdeen game on Sunday.

I’m amazed that there’s any suggestion of signing any of them based on the analysis they did before that game.

The fact he is captaining them at 22 means absolutely nothing IMO.

[J-C]

We've been overran most games this season due to a poor midfield, last couple of games we've went to a diamond which exposes our full backs and stretches our defence. Once we get a proper balance and some extra pace in the team, we'll be fine.

[Brightside]

They highlighted how bad the St Johnstone defenders have been before the Aberdeen game on Sunday.

I’m amazed that there’s any suggestion of signing any of them based on the analysis they did before that game.

The fact he is captaining them at 22 means absolutely nothing IMO.

If we let in 4 our defence is murder....yet we should be looking at St J players? Some people on the forum have a real masochistic way of supporting our team. :greengrin

[Brightside]

We've been overran most games this season due to a poor midfield, last couple of games we've went to a diamond which exposes our full backs and stretches our defence. Once we get a proper balance and some extra pace in the team, we'll be fine.

Totally agree. Noticed it a few times at the weekend. Lewis got dragged in a little which resulted in Hanlon having to go wide to cover a run - and getting done as part of that. Its not quite right but its getting better. I really want a 352 back!

[Vault Boy]

They highlighted how bad the St Johnstone defenders have been before the Aberdeen game on Sunday.

I’m amazed that there’s any suggestion of signing any of them based on the analysis they did before that game.

The fact he is captaining them at 22 means absolutely nothing IMO.

I get your point but personally I rate Kerr.

I think it's worth noting that we got relegated with Stevenson and Hanlon at the back, and as is often cited, St Mirren went down with McGinn, McLean and Mallan in midfield.

Sometimes the sum of the whole means talented individuals get lost in the mire. Kerr is one of those IMO.

[bingo70]

I get your point but personally I rate Kerr.

I think it's worth noting that we got relegated with Stevenson and Hanlon at the back, and as is often cited, St Mirren went down with McGinn, McLean and Mallan in midfield.

Sometimes the sum of the whole means talented individuals get lost in the mire. Kerr is one of those IMO.

I’ve no problem us signing players from pish teams, in fact I’m all for it.

The analysis I saw of him as an individual though was pretty grim. I don’t watch much of St Johnstone so if that analysis of him wasn’t accurate then fair enough but they highlighted quite a few shockers he’s had this season.

[J-C]

Totally agree. Noticed it a few times at the weekend. Lewis got dragged in a little which resulted in Hanlon having to go wide to cover a run - and getting done as part of that. Its not quite right but its getting better. I really want a 352 back!

I too like 3-5-2 but where does Boyle, Horgan and Middleton fit in?

[Vault Boy]

I’ve no problem us signing players from pish teams, in fact I’m all for it.

The analysis I saw of him as an individual though was pretty grim. I don’t watch much of St Johnstone so if that analysis of him wasn’t accurate then fair enough but they highlighted quite a few shockers he’s had this season.

Fair play Bingo, can't say I saw it myself, just going on what I know of him more generally.

Regardless I highly doubt we're after a centre half anyway!

[calumhibee1]

He is less error prone than any other defender we have so I assume none of them fill you with confidence either? Efe had many excellent games as part of a back 4. I have no idea why people are trying to knock him down. When he was here he made by far the least errors of any of our defenders and was excellent in almost every game. I guess this bombscare tag from Celtic hasn't disappeared despite 86 games for Hibs, about 80 he was top class. Walks back into the side at right back or centre back.

:agree:

Efe is more reliable than every defender outside the OF in our league.

[Brightside]

I too like 3-5-2 but where does Boyle, Horgan and Middleton fit in?

I dont think Middleton fits in at all. I see Horgan as an impact player. Boyle can play the RWB - esp in games were we want to be more attacking.

[Clarence]

St Johnstone that we scored 4 into recently?

Yes, what’s your point caller?

[Potty78]

I'd send Middleton back and go and get Mathew Kennedy back off the saints. Think he would be really good addition!

[MWHIBBIES]

I'm not knocking him, if you have twitter or followed me on twitter you would have seen my tweets about him and my defence off him when others were having a go. He doesn't fill me with confidence In the centre of a back 4 he isn't a right back but on the right of a back 3 he was superb.
Never assume

Why doesn't he fill you with confidence, though? He literally never let us down at the centre of a back 4 so that should be no different to a back 3.

He also had many, many excellent games at right back (benched Gray for some of the championship run in, many games while Gray was injured)

[04Sauzee]

Why doesn't he fill you with confidence, though? He literally never let us down at the centre of a back 4 so that should be no different to a back 3.

He also had many, many excellent games at right back (benched Gray for some of the championship run in, many games while Gray was injured)

I seen him skinned often enough to see he's not a right back. He really wasn;t very good at CB maybe the odd ocasion.

I like Ambrose i wonder why he hasn't been snapped up

[MWHIBBIES]

I seen him skinned often enough to see he's not a right back. He really wasn;t very good at CB maybe the odd ocasion.

I like Ambrose i wonder why he hasn't been snapped up

Maybe the odd occassion? Like the first half of last season maybe? Or the first half of our first season back up? Come on man, maybe the odd occassion? You cant be serious.

He really wasn't skinned often, no more than anyone else we've had at right back in that time. He had many excellent games at right back and many more at centre back.

[04Sauzee]

Maybe the odd occassion? Like the first half of last season maybe? Or the first half of our first season back up? Come on man, maybe the odd occassion? You cant be serious.

He really wasn't skinned often, no more than anyone else we've had at right back in that time. He had many excellent games at right back and many more at centre back.

He didn't
I have made my opinion clear and it won't be changing

[mayo hibee]

That young boy Hearts had on loan last season Jimmy Dunne was decent, complete knob but very good.

Bit of a left field shout but I'd like to see us take a look at Dara O'Shea from West Brom at centre back. Has been outstanding for Ireland under 21s but can't get any game time at the Hawthorns. Much more highly regarded in Ireland than Jimmy Dunne.

On a completely unrelated note I see Anthony Stokes is a free agent again, has been let go by that Turkish Second Division club he was at. Still only 31, what a waste of a talent.

[JimBHibees]

Come one now ....you arent allowed to point out the facts. Ask Porto if he thinks he's better than Hanlon. Hanlon gets out run by a striker - he's garbage. Porto makes a rash challenge after being caught wrong side - MOTM.

Paul Hanlon had a poor start to the season for his high standards. He has been easily as good as any other CB outside of Celtic for the last 6 weeks.

Or Porto covers well to intercept the ball after Hanlon skinned by their centre forward. Don't think Porto had his best game Saturday looked a bit leggy however to me Hanlon needs to up his game markedly as he has IMO been poor this season.

[sean04]

Or Porto covers well to intercept the ball after Hanlon skinned by their centre forward. Don't think Porto had his best game Saturday looked a bit leggy however to me Hanlon needs to up his game markedly as he has IMO been poor this season.

I thought he looked sluggish aswell. Wasn’t as sharp. Defends well from cross balls and reads the game. Got done by the striker but did well not to concede the pen. Think people forget he’s still young and playing in a position that mistakes are exposed. He’s going to make mistakes

[The Modfather]

I too like 3-5-2 but where does Boyle, Horgan and Middleton fit in?

Moved on hopefully. Has been very poor value for money IMO given we paid a fee for him and he will presumably be on a decent wage to match.

[J-C]

Moved on hopefully. Has been very poor value for money IMO given we paid a fee for him and he will presumably be on a decent wage to match.

I'm no Horgan fan tbh but he's purely a squad player who'll be on too much for his status, far too inconsistent, did well last 2 games but not enough in general.

[MWHIBBIES]

He didn't
I have made my opinion clear and it won't be changing

So you have this opinion that cant change but present nothing to back it up. Give me 5 poor games he had as part of a back 4. If you do, I'll change my opinion.

[04Sauzee]

So you have this opinion that cant change but present nothing to back it up. Give me 5 poor games he had as part of a back 4. If you do, I'll change my opinion.

Behave 😂😂

[MWHIBBIES]

Behave 😂😂

Thought so :aok:

Terrific in central defence. One of the best we've had

[calumhibee1]

Behave 😂😂

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion but I’d be interested to see 5 poor games Ambrose had at CB as well. He was an outstanding player for us and one of the best centre halves we’ve had this century imo.

[BILLYHIBS]

FWIW I can only think of two poor games from Efe Aberdeen away and Killie away out of position when Lenny played ten in midfield hoping for a draw apart from that I think he mostly got away with it

Class act but looks like that ship has sailed

Should never have left and should have signed the improved contract

[04Sauzee]

Thought so :aok:

Terrific in central defence. One of the best we've had

Thought what, that I have a different opinion to you regarding his best position. Already said he is magnificent in a back 3 not a back 4.
Think you need to go after someone who really doesn't rate him 👍.

You can disagree all you like that's football

[The 90+2]

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion but I’d be interested to see 5 poor games Ambrose had at CB as well. He was an outstanding player for us and one of the best centre halves we’ve had this century imo.

Well said 👍

[Iggy Pope]

Thought what, that I have a different opinion to you regarding his best position. Already said he is magnificent in a back 3 not a back 4.
Think you need to go after someone who really doesn't rate him 👍.

You can disagree all you like that's football

Well argued.

[Unseen work]

Mcgeouch not in the squad again for Sunderland, seems way out of the picture down there.

Him, Allan and Hallberg would be interesting in the middle of the park :agree:

[04Sauzee]

Mcgeouch not in the squad again for Sunderland, seems way out of the picture down there.

Him, Allan and Hallberg would be interesting in the middle of the park :agree:

No McNulty in the squad either?

[erin go bragh]

No McNulty in the squad either?

Sure he has a hamstring injury .

[04Sauzee]

Sure he has a hamstring injury .

Makes sense cheers

[Tambo]

I see that stokes is looking for his 5th club since January last year, not saying we go for him or anything.

[SMAXXA]

Barry Douglas would be someone I’d like

[Billy Whizz]

Barry Douglas would be someone I’d like

Is he available?
Think he’s a left back

[SMAXXA]

He is and currently second or third choice at Leeds just came back from there today

[Unseen work]

Barry Douglas would be someone I’d like

Would be a brilliant signing but can’t imagine us being able to afford him, would have plenty options in the championship.

[Keyser Sauzee]

Barry Douglas would be someone I’d like

Halfway into a 3 year deal at Leeds, will be way out of our price range

[SMAXXA]

Would be a brilliant signing but can’t imagine us being able to afford him, would have plenty options in the championship.

Yeah I agree but there are players on the radar that will come back home for a number of reasons, he’s one who would be someone who would improve us

[Gmack7]

Yeah I agree but there are players on the radar that will come back home for a number of reasons, he’s one who would be someone who would improve us

would be a tremendous signing. no chance of a permanent deal in January but if we're interested ,maybe a loan

[bingo70]

Neil Lennon ruling out hibs getting Morgan on loan in January as he’s still in Celtics plans.

Similar to the Barry Douglas suggestion above they were saying last night when Barry McKay came off the bench he’s been well out the picture at Swansea, he’s maybe another one that would fit the mould for the type of player we’d likely be after.

[Diclonius]

Neil Lennon ruling out hibs getting Morgan on loan in January as he’s still in Celtics plans.

Celtic - where young, talented Scottish players' careers go to stagnate.

[jacomo]

Neil Lennon ruling out hibs getting Morgan on loan in January as he’s still in Celtics plans.

Similar to the Barry Douglas suggestion above they were saying last night when Barry McKay came off the bench he’s been well out the picture at Swansea, he’s maybe another one that would fit the mould for the type of player we’d likely be after.


Don’t be bitter Lenny. It’s not our fault you cracked under the pressure of managing this great club.

[SouthMoroccoStu]

Celtic - where young, talented Scottish players' careers go to stagnate.

Absolutely

[H18S NX]

Don’t be bitter Lenny. It’s not our fault you cracked under the pressure of managing this great club....I thought that too.

[we are hibs]

don’t be bitter lenny. It’s not our fault you cracked (again) at a club without millions to spend and the best squad in the league by a distance.


ftfy.

[Marvellous]

Don’t be bitter Lenny. It’s not our fault you cracked under the pressure of managing this great club.

Without a hint of irony :hilarious

[FilipinoHibs]

...I thought that too.

Me too🤪

[AgentDaleCooper]

Tbh, i still don't think doidge is good enough. I'd love to be wrong, but almost all of his goals are weird flukes, and he can't actually finish to save himself. Gets into great positions, but doesn't make the most of them. His luck is bound to run out at some point. Like i saw though - i hope i'm wrong, or at least that the gods continue to favour him!

[MWHIBBIES]

Tbh, i still don't think doidge is good enough. I'd love to be wrong, but almost all of his goals are weird flukes, and he can't actually finish to save himself. Gets into great positions, but doesn't make the most of them. His luck is bound to run out at some point. Like i saw though - i hope i'm wrong, or at least that the gods continue to favour him!

Watch a video of Pippo Inzaghis goals. His luck was supposed to run out at some point too. He scored A LOT of weird flukes. Have to buy a ticket.

[Stuart93]

Tbh, i still don't think doidge is good enough. I'd love to be wrong, but almost all of his goals are weird flukes, and he can't actually finish to save himself. Gets into great positions, but doesn't make the most of them. His luck is bound to run out at some point. Like i saw though - i hope i'm wrong, or at least that the gods continue to favour him!

I thought out-with his goal today he was good again. Bullies defenders at time, holds the ball up well & brings others into play.

Wins so much in the air.

His finishing needs work but there’s definitely a player there

[Haymaker]

ftfy.

Correct.

[tonyrougier123]

Tbh, i still don't think doidge is good enough. I'd love to be wrong, but almost all of his goals are weird flukes, and he can't actually finish to save himself. Gets into great positions, but doesn't make the most of them. His luck is bound to run out at some point. Like i saw though - i hope i'm wrong, or at least that the gods continue to favour him!
I really enjoy watching doidge tbh,huge player for us now imo.absolute workhorse.that goal looked scrappy but he won it cleanly and that goalie was quite a big guy.

[sean04]

Anybody know who the black guy in the training pictures is?

[steelendhibs]

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Dear oh dear

[HendoDelivered]

Kevin Nesbitt the new Shankland?

[Mantis Toboggan]

Absolutely

True in some cases but not all, look at Ryan Christie

[hfc rd]

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[Unseen work]

Kevin Nesbitt the new Shankland?

Should absolutley take a punt on him in January. Been banging them in for Dunfermline and Raith.

[Unseen work]

Anybody know who the black guy in the training pictures is?

What pictures?

[brog]

I really like the lad Grimshaw at Well. I know he usually plays full back but I think he could do the CM role. Out of contract in the summer.

[WoreTheGreen]

I really like the lad Grimshaw at Well. I know he usually plays full back but I think he could do the CM role. Out of contract in the summer.

Outstanding at ER would be a great signing

[04Sauzee]

Did we find out who the trialist Hibs are teasing us with is?

[Diclonius]

Did we find out who the trialist Hibs are teasing us with is?

Jorome Slew?

[supershotmo]

Looks like Latapy

[Theinsider]

Jorome Slew?

Apparently not him

[sean04]

Seen a comment on twitter suggesting it was Erich Berko. German striker

[BoltonHibee]

Apparently not him

It doesn’t really look like him


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[HoboHarry]

Seen a comment on twitter suggesting it was Erich Berko. German striker
Well he managed to get here from Germany. Must be only flights from Frankfurt that are delayed......

[Diclonius]

Seen a comment on twitter suggesting it was Erich Berko. German striker

Doesn't seem particularly prolific, but then again he could be playing primarily as a winger, as Kamberi was before he joined us.

Ross considering going for a wide setup with two stirkers as Lennon did?

[Bad Habits]

Seen a comment on twitter suggesting it was Erich Berko. German striker

Plays with our old pal Victor Palsson!