Hearts v Hibs Reserves

[Billy Whizz]

Noticed that the game on Tuesday, 2pm KO, has been moved form Oriam to Meggatland
This is group game in the Reserve League Cup, no age restriction in this competition

Wonder if this will be getting played on grass, presume they’ve a few returning from injury, don’t want them playing on Astro

https://spfl.co.uk/league/rcup/fixtures

[Brightside]

Noticed that the game on Tuesday, 2pm KO, has been moved form Oriam to Meggatland
This is group game in the Reserve League Cup, no age restriction in this competition

Wonder if this will be getting played on grass, presume they’ve a few returning from injury, don’t want them playing on Astro

https://spfl.co.uk/league/rcup/fixtures

The rugby pitch has recently been opened to some of the top end football games, so id guess you are right. The astro isn't good enough for a top flight game now.

[Billy Whizz]

The rugby pitch has recently been opened to some of the top end football games, so id guess you are right. The astro isn't good enough for a top flight game now.

Think Tynecastle play there now

[Billy Whizz]

Wouldn’t surprise me if Hearts have Naismith and Walker back playing?
Wonder how far Boyle and McGregor are away too from playing?

[Iggy Pope]

I’m heading up to this Billy, never took one of these in at Meggetland before. In fact I’ve not been at Meggetland since playing there with the school over 40 years ago.....

[Billy Whizz]

I’m heading up to this Billy, never took one of these in at Meggetland before. In fact I’ve not been at Meggetland since playing there with the school over 40 years ago.....

Think it might be the pitch that Tynecastle use, has a small stand, used to be a rugby pitch last season

There’s a car park at the Craiglockhart end

[Iggy Pope]

Think it might be the pitch that Tynecastle use, has a small stand, used to be a rugby pitch last season

There’s a car park at the Craiglockhart end

Ta.

[Billy Whizz]

I’m presuming it’s a penalty shoot out if the game ends level after 90 mins
Seem to remember something like this in the Cup at Killie last season

[Tyler Durden]

I notice Hearts are currently priced at 3/1 on Bet 365.

Be interested to see the teams

[Hamish]

I notice Hearts are currently priced at 3/1 on Bet 365.

Be interested to see the teams

Yes saw that. They were both 5/4 yesterday afternoon.

[Billy Whizz]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EHezK5dWkAU1jQn?format=jpg&name=large

[Billy Whizz]

Strong Hibs team too

[Brightside]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EHezK5dWkAU1jQn?format=jpg&name=large

whatever happened to Cochrane?

[Hiber-nation]

whatever happened to Cochrane?

On loan at Dunfermline.

[The 90+2]

whatever happened to Cochrane?

He got found out as a professional footballer.

[Iggy Pope]

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[Danderhall Hibs]

On loan at Dunfermline.

And not pulling up any trees by all accounts. He was either over played or over rated while at Hearts. Or both.

[The 90+2]

Should pump them with the team we have out. I hope Doig has a stormer and gets it right up them.

[HH81]

I noticed the other day that the Rangers got tonked 5-1 at Huddersfield in that cup comp were in.

Hope Hibs put out a strong team down there as I'm attending.

Looks a decent team today.

[Tyler Durden]

Hearts 1-0 up after 5 mins

[The 90+2]

We are 11/5 now. Well worth £20 👍

[Onceinawhile]

Should pump them with the team we have out. I hope Doig has a stormer and gets it right up them.

was he there previously?

[The 90+2]

was he there previously?

Yeah!

[Wheat Hound]

1-0 Hertz half time. Hibs with the bulk of possession and chances but final ball and finishing poor. Depressingly familiar 🙄

[GreenCastle]

Half time 1-0.

Missed the goal but Hibs playing better football in windy conditions.

Had a few chances but finishing hasn’t been great.

Hearts hoofing it long at every opportunity.

Still goals in this but next one is massive as can’t see us getting 2.

Levein sitting on Yams bench.

Pitch grass is long - not sure if that’s deliberate tactic but expected better.

[Wheat Hound]

Think this also gets used as a rugby pitch and it shows. Think Hertz probably chose it on purpose

[Jim Herriot]

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[ShetlandHibby]

Got to remember this our development squad playing against their reserve team. There team will have first team ringers in it

[Hermit Crab]

Got to remember this our development squad playing against their reserve team. There team will have first team ringers in it


Hardly ringers if they're permitted to play.

[ShetlandHibby]

Hardly ringers if they're permitted to play.

You know what I mean. Players normally considered to be first team players.

[The 90+2]

****in mon Hibs.

[GreenCastle]

Got to remember this our development squad playing against their reserve team. There team will have first team ringers in it

Both teams have 1st team players playing.

Not much happening 2nd half.

Shaw just missed a good chance.

Berra watching - Hecky also near Hibs bench.

Fraser Murray a standout for me.

[04Sauzee]

You know what I mean. Players normally considered to be first team players.

Who exactly?

[Iggy Pope]

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Thanks Doc.

[Hermit Crab]

Both teams have 1st team players playing.

Not much happening 2nd half.

Shaw just missed a good chance.

Berra watching - Hecky also near Hibs bench.

Fraser Murray a standout for me.


Standard is it not?

[Hermit Crab]

Stats seem to suggest Hibs are all over Hearts but just cant score.

[GreenCastle]

Hibs playing better football and have had some chances but like the 1st team need someone to actually do something to make a difference like a good final ball or long shot.

Hearts playing on counter and time wasting.

Murray just missed a sitter after good cut back from Gullan.

[son of haggart]

You know what I mean. Players normally considered to be first team players.

Sides look pretty well matched for age, experience and first team involvement to me

Evening news has this, though both sides would probably argue few of these are 'first team' :

"First-team players involved

Adam Jackson (Hibs)

Jason Naismith (Hibs)

Fraser Murray (Hibs)

Oli Shaw (Hibs)

Zdenek Zlamal (Hearts)

Andy Irving (Hearts)

Aidan Keena (Hearts)

Craig Wighton (Hearts)"

[The 90+2]

Sides look pretty well matched for age, experience and first team involvement to me

Evening news has this, though both sides would probably argue few of these are 'first team' :

"First-team players involved

Adam Jackson (Hibs)

Jason Naismith (Hibs)

Fraser Murray (Hibs)

Oli Shaw (Hibs)

Zdenek Zlamal (Hearts)

Andy Irving (Hearts)

Aidan Keena (Hearts)

Craig Wighton (Hearts)"

Ffs we are losing to a team with Craig Wighton in it.

[GreenCastle]

Tommy Block on for Naismith - Naismith didn’t do much to impress

[The 90+2]

Tommy Block on for Naismith - Naismith didn’t do much to impress

Gies a goal do do do do do do.

[Hermit Crab]

Injury time.

[GreenCastle]

Goal Shaw

[Iggy Pope]

Thanks Doc.

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[Hermit Crab]

Goal. 1-1 90+2

[GGTTH07]

1-1

[GreenCastle]

1-1.

Good work by Doig on left and cross - Hearts keeepr Zamal flapped at it and Shaw heads into empty net.

[Iggy Pope]

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PS 1-1.

[Vault Boy]

Goal Shaw

Standard is it not? :greengrin

[Hermit Crab]

Standard is it not? :greengrin


Even he couldn't miss.

[we are hibs]

Hearts goalie obviously still concused after that vicious assault last season

[Vault Boy]

Even he couldn't miss.

Even a striker with a great scoring record at youth level?

[The 90+2]

Penalties.

[Hermit Crab]

Even a striker with a great scoring record at youth level?


Never progressed beyond that. Youth level, he's 21.

[The 90+2]

2-2 pens

[Vault Boy]

Never progressed beyond that. Youth level, he's 21.

He's got a decent goals to starts ratio at first team level too.

Regardless, all I said was it's standard for Shaw to be scoring at this level.

[Vault Boy]

3-3

[The 90+2]

Hibs miss ffs

[Vault Boy]

4-3 Hearts Innes Murray misses.

[The 90+2]

Hearts miss sudden death

[Hermit Crab]

4-4 Sudden death now.

[The 90+2]

5-4 them sudden death.

[The 90+2]

5-5

[The 90+2]

They win on pens 🙈

[Hermit Crab]

Thats the future...

[Brightside]

Tommy Block.....booooo.

[Vault Boy]

6-5 Hearts, Block misses his.

[SaulGoodman]

Thats the future...

What?

[SteveHFC]

Thats the future...

I'll be cancelling my away season ticket in disgust at today's result.

[Hermit Crab]

I'll be cancelling my away season ticket in disgust at today's result.


Quite right as well :agree:. You won't be the first.

[Hermit Crab]

What?


Those players.

[The 90+2]

Those players.

Jason Naismith probably isn’t tbf.

[GreenCastle]

To be fair the future youth of both clubs isn’t really up to much.

More worrying for Scottish football.

Hibs seemed better team today but with no final quality.

Hammer did well / Murray too (except his miss).

[Hermit Crab]

Jason Naismith probably isn’t tbf.


:greengrin

[MWHIBBIES]

Never progressed beyond that. Youth level, he's 21.

Definitely ****ing has. His goals in Europe, in cup semi and in the top division of Scottish football are proof of that. Take a day off, seriously.

[CMurdoch]

That was an exciting read.
Felt like i was at the game.

[hfc rd]

Definitely ****ing has. His goals in Europe, in cup semi and in the top division of Scottish football are proof of that. Take a day off, seriously.

The problem with Shaw is that he isn’t consistent enough at this level compared to someone like a Ryan Porteous who had really stamped his place in the first team.

Shaw needs to step up and remain consistent to stay there otherwise he’ll be moved on.

You might say that he needs game time but the only way he’s going to get game time is playing consistently well when called upon. We’ve seen it in flashes but not enough to make you think he’s got a really bright future here and will be on a number of clubs’ radar in a couple of years time. Needs to start grabbing games by the scruff of the neck and showing his true potential. He’s very good at youth level as we’ve seen but we’ve had plenty of youngsters like that in the past that were unplayable at youth level but when it came to the first team, they couldn’t cut it on a consistent basis. They’d be good one game and the next, you’d forget that they were even on the pitch.

At 21 years old he needs to definitely start playing regularly if he wants to progress further.

[Wee Mickey]

Pretty poor game. Both teams guilty of giving away possession at crucial times. Hibs had the better chances overall but the finishing was poor.

[Stuart93]

Pretty poor game. Both teams guilty of giving away possession at crucial times. Hibs had the better chances overall but the finishing was poor.

Poor finishing? Running theme

[supermcginn]

Definitely ****ing has. His goals in Europe, in cup semi and in the top division of Scottish football are proof of that. Take a day off, seriously.

How come he can't get a game then? He'll be away in January.

[brog]

How come he can't get a game then? He'll be away in January.

I love it. There's a million posts on this Board saying our manager's clueless, then somehow Oli Shaw's a bad player because Hecky doesn't pick him!

[The 90+2]

How come he can't get a game then? He'll be away in January.

He can’t get a game because some balloon decides to play one up top week in week out and persists with a striker that finds difficulty in the role.

[Hermit Crab]

Definitely ****ing has. His goals in Europe, in cup semi and in the top division of Scottish football are proof of that. Take a day off, seriously.


I always work my rest days. Easy money.

[04Sauzee]

How come he can't get a game then? He'll be away in January.

With Kamberi?

[supermcginn]

He can’t get a game because some balloon decides to play one up top week in week out and persists with a striker that finds difficulty in the role.

Maybe it's just because shaw isnt very good. If he wasnt a youth product peoples opinions would be a lot different.

[The 90+2]

Maybe it's just because shaw isnt very good. If he wasnt a youth product peoples opinions would be a lot different.

Possibly. But it also be because he’s not suited to one up top.

I guess we find out when Hecky gets punted.

[hibbybob]

Pretty poor game. Both teams guilty of giving away possession at crucial times. Hibs had the better chances overall but the finishing was poor.

I agree about both teams giving away possession but thought Hibs were by far the better team. Playing football was difficult on a heavy bumpy pitch.

Fraser Murray and Jamie Gullan stood out.

I was sitting behind the Hibs bench and was surprised at the number of coaching staff we have - Combe, May, Mikel and Nish who were joined by Hecky and Stockdale (tho they didn't really get involved) and I believe Grant Murray was there too as well as Gareth Evans who was sitting with George Craig in the stand.

I was disappointed with the communication from the bench to the players as it seemed to be very critical as opposed to offering encouragement or praise, when due.
There didn't seem to be a great team spirit!

[MWHIBBIES]

How come he can't get a game then? He'll be away in January.And if he is away in January (he wont be) his next club will also be at a much higher level than youth level. Absolute and complete rubbish that he hasn't made it beyond youth level.


The problem with Shaw is that he isn’t consistent enough at this level compared to someone like a Ryan Porteous who had really stamped his place in the first team.

Shaw needs to step up and remain consistent to stay there otherwise he’ll be moved on.

You might say that he needs game time but the only way he’s going to get game time is playing consistently well when called upon. We’ve seen it in flashes but not enough to make you think he’s got a really bright future here and will be on a number of clubs’ radar in a couple of years time. Needs to start grabbing games by the scruff of the neck and showing his true potential. He’s very good at youth level as we’ve seen but we’ve had plenty of youngsters like that in the past that were unplayable at youth level but when it came to the first team, they couldn’t cut it on a consistent basis. They’d be good one game and the next, you’d forget that they were even on the pitch.

At 21 years old he needs to definitely start playing regularly if he wants to progress further.

Shaw has never had a run of games like Ryan has. Why does he need to be starting at 21? I can name 50 players who went on to become absolute brilliant but weren't regulars at 21.

[JimBHibees]

The problem with Shaw is that he isn’t consistent enough at this level compared to someone like a Ryan Porteous who had really stamped his place in the first team.

Shaw needs to step up and remain consistent to stay there otherwise he’ll be moved on.

You might say that he needs game time but the only way he’s going to get game time is playing consistently well when called upon. We’ve seen it in flashes but not enough to make you think he’s got a really bright future here and will be on a number of clubs’ radar in a couple of years time. Needs to start grabbing games by the scruff of the neck and showing his true potential. He’s very good at youth level as we’ve seen but we’ve had plenty of youngsters like that in the past that were unplayable at youth level but when it came to the first team, they couldn’t cut it on a consistent basis. They’d be good one game and the next, you’d forget that they were even on the pitch.

At 21 years old he needs to definitely start playing regularly if he wants to progress further.

He has had no game time to prove that. Thought he looked sharp when came on at Motherwell not sure he has had a minute since.

[The 90+2]

And if he is away in January (he wont be) his next club will also be at a much higher level than youth level. Absolute and complete rubbish that he hasn't made it beyond youth level.



Shaw has never had a run of games like Ryan has. Why does he need to be starting at 21? I can name 50 players who went on to become absolute brilliant but weren't regulars at 21.

I’ll start. Derek Riordan.

[Tobias Funke]

I’ll start. Derek Riordan.

Good shout.

[crash]

I’ll start. Derek Riordan.

Just to correct you as that is nonsense, Derek Riordan signed for Celtic from Hibs when he was 23, the previous 3 seasons he was Hibs top scorer with 18,23 and 20 goals.

[Allant1981]

Just to correct you as that is nonsense, Derek Riordan signed for Celtic from Hibs when he was 23, the previous 3 seasons he was Hibs top scorer with 18,23 and 20 goals.

Not really nonsense then is it, he only started scoring for us in the 2003/4 season so he would have been 20 going on 21 that season and then got better as he turned 21

[The 90+2]

Just to correct you as that is nonsense, Derek Riordan signed for Celtic from Hibs when he was 23, the previous 3 seasons he was Hibs top scorer with 18,23 and 20 goals.

He was on loan at Cowdenbeath at 20. I’m puzzled how he was playing regularly for Hibs before he was 21.

[bigwheel]

He was on loan at Cowdenbeath at 20. I’m puzzled how he was playing regularly for Hibs before he was 21.

He had just (same month) turned 20 when his loan ended and he came back to Hibs..January 2003..became a regular thereafter ....

[GreenCastle]

I agree about both teams giving away possession but thought Hibs were by far the better team. Playing football was difficult on a heavy bumpy pitch.

Fraser Murray and Jamie Gullan stood out.

I was sitting behind the Hibs bench and was surprised at the number of coaching staff we have - Combe, May, Mikel and Nish who were joined by Hecky and Stockdale (tho they didn't really get involved) and I believe Grant Murray was there too as well as Gareth Evans who was sitting with George Craig in the stand.

I was disappointed with the communication from the bench to the players as it seemed to be very critical as opposed to offering encouragement or praise, when due.
There didn't seem to be a great team spirit!

Agree - Murray and Gullan the standouts. I would get them both in 1st team.

Pitch awful - wonder if it was a deliberate tactic by Hearts but poor surface considering a nice set up - parking was tough though but liked the cafe etc at side and behind goals.

Wind didn’t help game but Hibs definitely played better football - but like the 1st team couldn’t find the final quality.

Do we have any strikers other than Shaw coming through ?

Also coaches at Hamilton and today don’t look professional standing up and yelling mostly negative instructions.

I said above but slightly worrying that both teams weren’t up to much for the sake of Scottish Football. What is it with Scottish players playing long diagonal passes and keepers rarely playing out from the back. Maybe that’s where we are that England / Old Firm hoover up the talent and other Scottish teams youth set ups are now similar standard to non league.

[FilipinoHibs]

Possibly. But it also be because he’s not suited to one up top.

I guess we find out when Hecky gets punted.

Needs to play as a two upfront. Good finisher. Him and Flo would do it. Find the Dog another home.

[Brightside]

Agree - Murray and Gullan the standouts. I would get them both in 1st team.

Pitch awful - wonder if it was a deliberate tactic by Hearts but poor surface considering a nice set up - parking was tough though but liked the cafe etc at side and behind goals.

Wind didn’t help game but Hibs definitely played better football - but like the 1st team couldn’t find the final quality.

Do we have any strikers other than Shaw coming through ?

Also coaches at Hamilton and today don’t look professional standing up and yelling mostly negative instructions.

I said above but slightly worrying that both teams weren’t up to much for the sake of Scottish Football. What is it with Scottish players playing long diagonal passes and keepers rarely playing out from the back. Maybe that’s where we are that England / Old Firm hoover up the talent and other Scottish teams youth set ups are now similar standard to non league.

Its a rugby pitch - assuming they played on the grass next to the cafe. They have only just started letting football teams book it out. But it will get ruined if both sports are active on it.

[GreenCastle]

Its a rugby pitch - assuming they played on the grass next to the cafe. They have only just started letting football teams book it out. But it will get ruined if both sports are active on it.

I think they want to make it 3G for both sports.

Tynecastle being using it - not sure how it is for them but grass was definitely too long yesterday. At the same time it showed who could control the ball as often players are spoilt on perfect surfaces.

Preferred it to Oriam indoor which is too big and soulless. Oriam outdoor is ok though.

[greenlex]

1-1.

Good work by Doig on left and cross - Hearts keeepr Zamal flapped at it and Shaw heads into empty net.
That boy Doig is only half the player big Chris is.

[Onceinawhile]

Agree - Murray and Gullan the standouts. I would get them both in 1st team.

Pitch awful - wonder if it was a deliberate tactic by Hearts but poor surface considering a nice set up - parking was tough though but liked the cafe etc at side and behind goals.

Wind didn’t help game but Hibs definitely played better football - but like the 1st team couldn’t find the final quality.

Do we have any strikers other than Shaw coming through ?

Also coaches at Hamilton and today don’t look professional standing up and yelling mostly negative instructions.

I said above but slightly worrying that both teams weren’t up to much for the sake of Scottish Football. What is it with Scottish players playing long diagonal passes and keepers rarely playing out from the back. Maybe that’s where we are that England / Old Firm hoover up the talent and other Scottish teams youth set ups are now similar standard to non league.

Gullan is out on loan at Raith Rovers, so can't be put in the first team.