Shot inside her own bedroom! So depressing

[Hibbyradge]

Another life ended. She can't come ever back.

Maybe if she'd had more guns...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-50032290

[Onceinawhile]

Whilst gaming with a young child.

"What can the explanation for shooting be? Well we saw her sitting down and playing the playstation and we just knew how dangerous that could turn out to be"

Shambolic.

[DetroitHibs]

Whilst gaming with a young child.

"What can the explanation for shooting be? Well we saw her sitting down and playing the playstation and we just knew how dangerous that could turn out to be"
Shambolic.

You sure it wasn't Duck Hunt lol

[McD]

You sure it wasn't Duck Hunt lol


Hilarious joke, when discussing a woman gunned down in her own home

[DetroitHibs]

Hilarious joke, when discussing a woman gunned down in her own home

Poor wee lamb, so sorry I offended you.

[McD]

Poor wee lamb, so sorry I offended you.


joking about someone being shot to death in their own home, then doubling down on that, clearly a classy person :aok:

it’s not me that’s the poor wee lamb, or deserves any pity

[Future17]

Poor wee lamb, so sorry I offended you.

Are you returning to the Trump thread to back up your left-wing mass shooters chat any time soon?

[Fife-Hibee]

Poor wee lamb, so sorry I offended you.

Living in Detroit, I suppose people being shot by the authorities within their own homes is a common occurrence. Perhaps someone will be having a laugh at the expense of your life one of these days.

[DetroitHibs]

Na just sick of this PC culture where everyone gets offended. Seriously somone says she got shot playing the PlayStation and I make a NES Duck Hunt joke. Lighten up ffs.

[bigwheel]

Na just sick of this PC culture where everyone gets offended. Seriously somone says she got shot playing the PlayStation and I make a NES Duck Hunt joke. Lighten up ffs.

If you are going to make a joke on a public forum about someone who has innocently lost their life - don’t you expect you will offend some people? ....came over as crass and lacking any empathy or humour to me tbh

[Ozyhibby]

Na just sick of this PC culture where everyone gets offended. Seriously somone says she got shot playing the PlayStation and I make a NES Duck Hunt joke. Lighten up ffs.

Not sure anyone was offended, more just pointing out your personality flaws.


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[Cataplana]

I think the real issue here is that she appears to have been shot because she was black, rather than what PlayStation game she was playing.

That's what's really offensive.

[Jones28]

Na just sick of this PC culture where everyone gets offended. Seriously somone says she got shot playing the PlayStation and I make a NES Duck Hunt joke. Lighten up ffs.

Just stop, you’re embarrassing yourself.

[DetroitHibs]

Just stop, you’re embarrassing yourself.

I ain’t embarrassed kid.

[Allant1981]

I ain’t embarrassed kid.

You should be, very crass

[Fife-Hibee]

Na just sick of this PC culture where everyone gets offended. Seriously somone says she got shot playing the PlayStation and I make a NES Duck Hunt joke. Lighten up ffs.

I'm sure your Trump pals find your "jokes" hilarious over there. But for non sociopaths, it's not a laughing matter. An innocent person died just sitting inside their own home. Not in some video game, but in real life. Somebody with a family and children who now have to live with the loss.

[Future17]

Are you returning to the Trump thread to back up your left-wing mass shooters chat any time soon?


Na just sick of this PC culture where everyone gets offended. Seriously somone says she got shot playing the PlayStation and I make a NES Duck Hunt joke. Lighten up ffs.


I ain’t embarrassed kid.

So that's a "no" then. It's almost like you simply posted things you knew to be untrue. :rolleyes:

[CMurdoch]

What a hellish thing.
There are simply too many guns in the USA.
How many people do you know who you would trust with a gun?
Cops in USA must think about the threat of guns every time they go to a call.
Fear leads to bad choices.
A recipe for disaster which is played out in the USA on an almost daily basis.

In this country we have very few cops with guns, they are experts and use them very rarely.
Importantly very few folk in this country have guns so cops are not thinking about the threat of guns when they go to every call.
As a result there has been only one incident in this country where an innocent has been shot by Police officers. That was sad death of Jean Charles de Menezes days after the London bombings. That case would bring a tear to a glass eye.
I should say I don't consider violent criminals like Mark Duggan as innocents.

[Cataplana]

What a hellish thing.
There are simply too many guns in the USA.
How many people do you know who you would trust with a gun.
Cops in USA must think about the threat of guns every time they go to a call.
Fear leads to bad choices.
It is a recipe for disaster which is played out on an almost daily basis.

In this country we have very few cops with guns, they are experts and use them very rarely.
Importantly very few folk in this country have guns so cops are not thinking about the threat of guns when they go to every call.
As a result there have been very few incidents in this country where innocents have been shot by Police officers.
I should say I don't consider violent criminals like Mark Duggan as innocents.

I think the most significant thing about this US problem is that Canada does not have the same issues.

I spoke to Canadians about it once. They put it down to a much more fundamentalist approach to life in America. Cowboys and

[Hibbyradge]

I think the most significant thing about this US problem is that Canada does not have the same issues.

I spoke to Canadians about it once. They put it down to a much more fundamentalist approach to life in America. Cowboys and

Try to get a hold of Michael Moore's documentary, Bowling for Columbine. It discusses exactly that subject and is compelling.

I read the book which strangely was called a comedy! It isn't.

[Cataplana]

Try to get a hold of Michael Moore's documentary, Bowling for Columbine. It discusses exactly that subject and is compelling.

I read the book which strangely was called a comedy! It isn't.

The fact there has been no improvement since that came out us truly disheartening.

[Fife-Hibee]

You can watch the documentary on this page - http://watchdocumentaries.com/bowling-for-columbine/

[Cataplana]

You can watch the documentary on this page - http://watchdocumentaries.com/bowling-for-columbine/

Thanks very much FH.

[Moulin Yarns]

What a hellish thing.
There are simply too many guns in the USA.
How many people do you know who you would trust with a gun?
Cops in USA must think about the threat of guns every time they go to a call.
Fear leads to bad choices.
A recipe for disaster which is played out in the USA on an almost daily basis.

In this country we have very few cops with guns, they are experts and use them very rarely.
Importantly very few folk in this country have guns so cops are not thinking about the threat of guns when they go to every call.
As a result there has been only one incident in this country where an innocent has been shot by Police officers. That was sad death of Jean Charles de Menezes days after the London bombings. That case would bring a tear to a glass eye.
I should say I don't consider violent criminals like Mark Duggan as innocents.

Just a wee correction, there has been more than one incident of police shooting innocent victims in the UK. This one has always been a case of the police being trigger happy.


https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2004/oct/29/ukcrime1

[Moulin Yarns]

You sure it wasn't Duck Hunt lol

You make light of a cold blooded murder. I think it is clear that you are the duck hunt on this thread.



https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-50050436

[Cataplana]

You make light of a cold blooded murder. I think it is clear that you are the duck hunt on this thread.



https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-50050436

He wasn't the only one. The thread starts with s tinge of irony, I had a couple of ironic posts too but deleted them lest they be seen as crass.

It was hardly the funniest joke in the world that DH mate, but neither was it the cruellest.

Some perspective is needed, as the real point about this killing is being lost in a sea of indignation.

Edit: it's almost as if people are more concerned with ganging up on him, than talking about the disproportionate number of black people shot by the police in the US.

[Hibbyradge]

He wasn't the only one. The thread starts with s tinge of irony, I had a couple of ironic posts too but deleted them lest they be seen as crass.

It was hardly the funniest joke in the world that DH mate, but neither was it the cruellest.

Some perspective is needed, as the real point about this killing is being lost in a sea of indignation.

Edit: it's almost as if people are more concerned with ganging up on him, than talking about the disproportionate number of black people shot by the police in the US.

So if the subject is serious enough, we shouldn't react to what people say about it?

You deleted your crass posts because you realised that the reaction to them would have been predictable. And, presumably, because you didn't want to be thought of in that way, again presumably, because you're not that guy.

People have pointed out to DH that his posts were poor, but he doubled down on them. Again, the reaction was predictable.

You're right that the number of black people being shot by white police officers is a huge issue, but it's attitudes like DH's which trivialise it.

Ha ha ha, duck hunt, ha ha ha, what's next on Fox TV?

It's absolutely right that he has been pilloried for his comments and his subsequent defence of them.

[Cataplana]

So if the subject is serious enough, we shouldn't react to what people say about it?

You deleted your crass posts because you realised that the reaction to them would have been predictable. And, presumably, because you didn't want to be thought of in that way, again presumably, because you're not that guy.

People have pointed out to DH that his posts were poor, but he doubled down on them. Again, the reaction was predictable.

You're right that the number of black people being shot by white police officers is a huge issue, but it's attitudes like DH's which trivialise it.

Ha ha ha, duck hunt, ha ha ha, what's next on Fox TV?

It's absolutely right that he has been pilloried for his comments and his subsequent defence of them.

I actually don't think the posts I made were that bad, they were sarcastic remarks suggesting they wouldn't have shot her if she was white.

However when I saw the reaction to DHs comments, I thought that perhaps the humour might lead to the same vitriol coming my way.

Its a bit of a minefield. I think leaving his joke to stand with tumbleweed blowing past would have sufficed.

Anyway, my head is going back below the parapet.

[Hibbyradge]

I actually don't think the posts I made were that bad, they were sarcastic remarks suggesting they wouldn't have shot her if she was white.

However when I saw the reaction to DHs comments, I thought that perhaps the humour might lead to the same vitriol coming my way.

Its a bit of a minefield. I think leaving his joke to stand with tumbleweed blowing past would have sufficed.

Anyway, my head is going back below the parapet.

I understand what you mean about tumbleweed, but it goes back to the point about leaving things unchallenged. Also, it could be interpreted that it was acceptable and it really wasn't.

I didn't see your posts, by the way.

I was taking my lead from you. :greengrin

[Cataplana]

I understand what you mean about tumbleweed, but it goes back to the point about leaving things unchallenged. Also, it could be interpreted that it was acceptable and it really wasn't.

I didn't see your posts, by the way.

I was taking my lead from you. :greengrin

Never a wise move.

Can I just point out that there are now a lot more posts on this thread about young Bernard Manning than there are about the original subject?

Which suggests outrage at tasteless jokes is more important to some than the original subject to some.

I think the most surprising thing about our continued anger about these brutal killings is that we are still surprised. One thing is for sure, they aren't going away.

[Hibbyradge]

Never a wise move.

Can I just point out that there are now a lot more posts on this thread about young Bernard Manning than there are about the original subject?

Which suggests outrage at tasteless jokes is more important to some than the original subject to some.

I think the most surprising thing about our continued anger about these brutal killings is that we are still surprised. One thing is for sure, they aren't going away.

I think that's why people feel that discussing them in any length is futile.

We've said it all time and time again, yet nothing changes. We're tired of it.

[Cataplana]

I think that's why people feel that discussing them in any length is futile.

We've said it all time and time again, yet nothing changes. We're tired of it.

Maybe the only thing that can come out of it is new insights into the state of mind of white cops.

You would be forgiven for thinking they are guardians of a white society that is no closer to moving on from the Civil War than they have ever been.

[Hibbyradge]

Maybe the only thing that can come out of it is new insights into the state of mind of white cops.

You would be forgiven for thinking they are guardians of a white society that is no closer to moving on from the Civil War than they have ever been.

I doubt I could even point a loaded gun at someone, never mind fire it, so what does that say about the values of white cops, or any US cops?

I take some reassurance from the fact that the officer who pulled the trigger has been charged with murder.

He may not be prosecuted, or he might be found not guilty, but at least it's not just a "thoughts and prayers" statement from the PD while the killer goes about his business as usual.

Maybe it'll make others think twice before shooting.

Maybe I'm naive.

[Cataplana]

I doubt I could even point a loaded gun at someone, never mind fire it, so what does that say about the values of white cops, or any US cops?

I take some reassurance from the fact that the officer who pulled the trigger has been charged with murder.

He may not be prosecuted, or he might be found not guilty, but at least it's not just a "thoughts and prayers" statement from the PD while the killer goes about his business as usual.

Maybe it'll make others think twice before shooting.

Maybe I'm naive.

Can I suggest you are not American and are not educated from an early age to regard every other human being as being put on this earth solely to take away your property.

Furthermore guy don't live in a country where the constitution actually encourages you to get a gun and shoot people you don't like.

[Hibbyradge]

Can I suggest you are not American and are not educated from an early age to regard every other human being as being put on this earth solely to take away your property.

Furthermore guy don't live in a country where the constitution actually encourages you to get a gun and shoot people you don't like.

Word!

[McD]

What a hellish thing.
There are simply too many guns in the USA.
How many people do you know who you would trust with a gun?
Cops in USA must think about the threat of guns every time they go to a call.
Fear leads to bad choices.
A recipe for disaster which is played out in the USA on an almost daily basis.

In this country we have very few cops with guns, they are experts and use them very rarely.
Importantly very few folk in this country have guns so cops are not thinking about the threat of guns when they go to every call.
As a result there has been only one incident in this country where an innocent has been shot by Police officers. That was sad death of Jean Charles de Menezes days after the London bombings. That case would bring a tear to a glass eye.
I should say I don't consider violent criminals like Mark Duggan as innocents.


Something that stands out to me, is how I feel and the reactions I see in others when a gun related incident happens in the uk. It always makes me stop, it’s a shock, because gun related incidents a relatively few and far between. Compared with hearing about a similar incident in the US (in fact often far worse incidents), and it’s almost become blasé, it’s almost a weekly occurrence.

a shocking atrocity happened at dunblane, which prompted swift and strong changes to gun laws across the uk. No whining about constitutional rights, about right to bear arms. As a whole, the population of the uk completely got behind the need for change. In the US, far too many are too busy demanding their right to have deadly weapons to see the pain and suffering being caused all the time.

I've no doubt that changing things there would take a very long time. But thats a lot sooner than no change at all.

[Bristolhibby]

The fact there has been no improvement since that came out us truly disheartening.

TBH once Sandy Hook came and went with no change, you knew the game was up.

They just don’t care. They will have to get on with killing each other and pretending it was “mental illness” or a “lone wolf”. Ignoring the ease that they got the weapons in the first place.

J

[RyeSloan]

TBH once Sandy Hook came and went with no change, you knew the game was up.

They just don’t care. They will have to get on with killing each other and pretending it was “mental illness” or a “lone wolf”. Ignoring the ease that they got the weapons in the first place.

J

Sandy Hook didn’t even happen according to some! All an Obama conspiracy that was faked allegedly...

[Bristolhibby]

Sandy Hook didn’t even happen according to some! All an Obama conspiracy that was faked allegedly...

And those people we call mental.

I see a Sandy Hook father sued and won against some conspiracy nutter. It was for defaming him rather than just being a nutter.

J

[Cataplana]

And those people we call mental.

I see a Sandy Hook father sued and won against some conspiracy nutter. It was for defaming him rather than just being a nutter.

J

In fairness, I don't think you can sue somebody for being a nutter. Even in the USA. :greengrin