Attacks on Saudi oil plants

[makaveli1875]

Surprised this hasnt had a thread yet . Largest Oil plant in the world out of action , massive hit on oil output . Pompeo pointing the finger at Iran .. There may be trouble ahead

[CloudSquall]

The US government seems itching to go to war with Iran, it's an altogether different beast to Iraq however..

[Ozyhibby]

The US government seems itching to go to war with Iran, it's an altogether different beast to Iraq however..

I’m not sure Trump is though. So far he seems to be not that much of a war monger compared with previous incumbents.
He has zero chance of building any sort of coalition so it would be very much an American project if they did go in. And it would be a long time before they came out.


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[Fife-Hibee]

What would Iran have to gain from declaring war on the UK, the US, the Saudis..... and wait for it.... Israel?

It's a complete fabrication to overthrow yet another leader who won't play their game of monopoly.

[Cataplana]

Nobody in their right mind would go to war with Iran.

The Saudis have possibly found just the man, at last.

[Glory Lurker]

The nuclear war in Threads kicks off from bother in Iran. I'm keeping well clear of Sheffield for the time being.

[Cataplana]

Nobody in their right mind would go to war with Iran.

The Saudis have possibly found just the man, at last.

[Glory Lurker]

Do drones not need satellite guidance, and a camera feed back to a guy with a remote control, or can they be less tech?

[Future17]

Do drones not need satellite guidance, and a camera feed back to a guy with a remote control, or can they be less tech?

They can be very low tech in theory, but the groups we're talking about will certainly have versions with satellite navigation (rather than satellite guidance).

[Fuzzywuzzy]

The nuclear war in Threads kicks off from bother in Iran. I'm keeping well clear of Sheffield for the time being.

Depressingly, Grangemouth, dalmeny, moss morran and torness make us a nice big target.

Threads scared the **** out of me as a kid. Always wondered how long it would take to get from my house to the bombie up clerry hill!! Going for the open doors day so any strike two weeks today would do!!!����

[Ozyhibby]

On a brighter note, with the weak pound and oil prices up 20% already, that notional deficit Scotland runs will be wiped out in no time.[emoji106]


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[CloudSquall]

On a brighter note, with the weak pound and oil prices up 20% already, that notional deficit Scotland runs will be wiped out in no time.[emoji106]


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Volatility best managed by the big boys at Westminster (copyright Bliar MacDougall)

[Fife-Hibee]

On a brighter note, with the weak pound and oil prices up 20% already, that notional deficit Scotland runs will be wiped out in no time.[emoji106]


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It's irrelevant. The UK Government will just cut taxes on oil suppliers even further to keep the revenues artificially low.

Norway raked in over £23 billion from their oil and gas sector last year, the UK raked in £1 billion. It was no accident.

[judas]

Depressingly, Grangemouth, dalmeny, moss morran and torness make us a nice big target.

Threads scared the **** out of me as a kid. Always wondered how long it would take to get from my house to the bombie up clerry hill!! Going for the open doors day so any strike two weeks today would do!!!����

I’ll be OK.

I have a good door I could use, tilted against a sturdy plasterboard partition and with a good thick application of total sunblock, I’d survive and be ready to start work the next morning.

[Glory Lurker]

US intell released today is interesting. Aside from what it suggests in itself, the fact that Iraq, or at least factions in Iraq, could conceivably assist Iran in strikes against Saudi underlines the power vortex we've left in that place.

[BroxburnHibee]

Trump needs a war.

[Slavers]

The strike most likely came from Yemen probably with Iranian help.

[Slavers]

Trump needs a war.

Explain?

[BroxburnHibee]

Explain?

Election coming up. Struggling in the polls.

Pretty simple really.

I actually had a thought last week when Boris lurched from one disaster to the next that no doubt there would soon be some global emergency to distract us from the Brexit fiasco.

Didn't take long.

[RyeSloan]

Election coming up. Struggling in the polls.

Pretty simple really.

I actually had a thought last week when Boris lurched from one disaster to the next that no doubt there would soon be some global emergency to distract us from the Brexit fiasco.

Didn't take long.

Are you suggesting Boris arranged for the attack on Saudi to distract from Brexit?

[BroxburnHibee]

Are you suggesting Boris arranged for the attack on Saudi to distract from Brexit?

No of course not

I'm saying that if you look back in history it's amazing how often we get dragged into wars when leaders are having a hard time.

[Slavers]

Election coming up. Struggling in the polls.

Pretty simple really.

I actually had a thought last week when Boris lurched from one disaster to the next that no doubt there would soon be some global emergency to distract us from the Brexit fiasco.

Didn't take long.

Trump was elected by voters who want no more wars by American intervention. If you think a new war will win him votes then I think your completely on the wrong track.

Why get rid of John Bolton if he wanted a war?

Trump in his first term certainly does not want War if he wants re-elected.

I know it's tempting to blame brexit for everything but thinking a missile strike on the Saudis is somehow connected to brexit is I think misguided to say the least.

I think it's a strike by the Houthi's (they have already admitted responsibility) with Iranian help as a warning to the Saudis to get out of Yemen.

[RyeSloan]

No of course not

I'm saying that if you look back in history it's amazing how often we get dragged into wars when leaders are having a hard time.

I’m confused so you didn’t mean that but you did mean that? [emoji12]

Must admit I’m not sure how many wars the UK has been dragged into due to a politician having trouble at home and then manufacturing a war to distract the masses. How many are we talking about?

[Moulin Yarns]

Depressingly, Grangemouth, dalmeny, moss morran and torness make us a nice big target.

Threads scared the **** out of me as a kid. Always wondered how long it would take to get from my house to the bombie up clerry hill!! Going for the open doors day so any strike two weeks today would do!!!����


I used to live in Grangemouth, best place to be in the event of a bomb, you would know nothing about it.

I can't remember the details, but there was always believed to be a chain reaction along the forth/Clyde from moss morran, Rosyth missile storage, Grangemouth, and a few other sites that I can't remember. The thought was if one went up, they all would.

[Fife-Hibee]

Trump was elected by voters who want no more wars by American intervention. If you think a new war will win him votes then I think your completely on the wrong track.

Why get rid of John Bolton if he wanted a war?

Trump in his first term certainly does not want War if he wants re-elected.

I know it's tempting to blame brexit for everything but thinking a missile strike on the Saudis is somehow connected to brexit is I think misguided to say the least.

I think it's a strike by the Houthi's (they have already admitted responsibility) with Iranian help as a warning to the Saudis to get out of Yemen.

The media claiming that they have accepted responsibility, isn't the same as them accepting responsibility.

[judas]

I am against war generally and always stand against Britain’s intervention in conflict.

I also regard the US as largely imperialistic.

However, one exception would exist for me. Any state, currently free of nukes but trying to acquire them should be invaded if necessary.

Our problem with nuclear weapons is already an unstable position. Adding more countries into the mix is unthinkable.

[Ozyhibby]

I am against war generally and always stand against Britain’s intervention in conflict.

I also regard the US as largely imperialistic.

However, one exception would exist for me. Any state, currently free of nukes but trying to acquire them should be invaded if necessary.

Our problem with nuclear weapons is already an unstable position. Adding more countries into the mix is unthinkable.

We’ll be flat out invading countries then. The tech for nuclear weapons is pretty easily accessible these days. More and more countries will be acquiring them over the next decade. And you can see why. The last couple of countries to give them up were promptly invaded. No Nuclear power has ever been invaded as far as I know?


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[Cataplana]

The strike most likely came from Yemen probably with Iranian help.

Sounds good enough grounds for war to me. Most likely win as well.

[The Pointer]

The media claiming that they have accepted responsibility, isn't the same as them accepting responsibility.

The Houthi leader claimed responsibility yesterday.

[Fife-Hibee]

The Houthi leader claimed responsibility yesterday.

Source?

[Ozyhibby]

Sounds good enough grounds for war to me. Most likely win as well.

Depends what you call winning. You could probably say we won the war in Iraq in 2004 but by 2006 it was a bloodbath with hundreds of casualties among Coalition forces.
Or you could say we won in Libya when we took down Gadaffi but it’s still going on now.
But I’m sure Iran will be a piece of cake. We will be in and out in double quick time.


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[Slavers]

Sounds good enough grounds for war to me. Most likely win as well.

Why should the West get into a war for the sake of the Saudi's?

The Saudi regime is horrendous and been bombing the **** out of Yemen and starving their population.

[RyeSloan]

Source?

Al-Masirah

[Hibernia&Alba]

The Saudis have killed 'hundreds of thousands' of civilians in Yemen, one of the poorest countries on earth. That's about as accurate as the UN can be, such is the scale of the killing. Is it ever even mentioned on our news? :confused:

Under international law governing warfare (not that is seems to count for anything) Yemen has a legal right to defend itself, which is worth remembering.

Isn't it interesting that first time we get any kind of coverage of the situation is when a Saudi oil refinery is hit?

[RyeSloan]

The Saudis have killed 'hundreds of thousands' of civilians in Yemen, one of the poorest countries on earth. That's about as accurate as the UN can be, such is the scale of the killing. Is it ever even mentioned on our news? :confused:

Under international law governing warfare (not that is seems to count for anything) Yemen has a legal right to defend itself, which is worth remembering.

Isn't it interesting that first time we get any kind of coverage of the situation is when a Saudi oil refinery is hit?

Depends on what, or more accurately who, you call Yemen when you talk about it defending itself but yeah that’s a nasty proxy war that’s not exactly getting much coverage.

[Fife-Hibee]

The Saudis have killed 'hundreds of thousands' of civilians in Yemen, one of the poorest countries on earth. That's about as accurate as the UN can be, such is the scale of the killing. Is it ever even mentioned on our news? :confused:

Under international law governing warfare (not that is seems to count for anything) Yemen has a legal right to defend itself, which is worth remembering.

Isn't it interesting that first time we get any kind of coverage of the situation is when a Saudi oil refinery is hit?

The media only reports on false flags. They're not interested in real wars instigated by our "allies".