Beep Beep Taxis

[Hibs4185]

I had never heard of them until they sponsored hibs but they are half the price of Uber or central taxis. The wife and I are going to see Frankie Boyle at the playhouse tonight and living in the Borders we have to get the train up. I need to go via Atholl Crescent and then down to Omni and Uber was £19. Beep beep is £8.90. Unbelievable and highly recommended.

Shows you football sponsorship does work!

[Doh Rae Me]

Atholl cres to Omni will not cost you 8.90 in a black cab.

[Hibs4185]

Waverley to atholl crescent and then down to omni

[Weegreenman]

Hate to think what the drivers wage is.

[HibeeHibernian4]

Hate to think what the drivers wage is.

:agree:

Convenient for the customer, not for the worker.

[tamig]

:agree:

Convenient for the customer, not for the worker.

Without knowing the driver’s wage, how can you say that? Or maybe you do know.

[calumhibee1]

Without knowing the driver’s wage, how can you say that? Or maybe you do know.

Nobody goes to McDonalds and is concerned that the guy serving them is on minimum wage so God knows why it seems to be such a thing with taxis.

[Hibs4185]

I was a bus driver for 7 years and helped endless amounts of tourists navigate their way around the city, not once did I get a tip. Why do most people feel the need to tip taxi drivers a fair amount and not bus drivers??

[Hibs4185]

Hate to think what the drivers wage is.

Was in the taxi for 30 mins. £8.90 for 30 mins work isn’t too bad.

Anyway it’s a business associated with the club and I thought I’d share my experience

[cookin_on_gaz]

Was in the taxi for 30 mins. £8.90 for 30 mins work isn’t too bad.

Anyway it’s a business associated with the club and I thought I’d share my experienceThe driver will only see a fraction of that and I would be surprised if he is earning much more than minimum wage.

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[The 90+2]

The driver will only see a fraction of that and I would be surprised if he is earning much more than minimum wage.

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But he is still earning a wage, legally minimum wage or not? Surely it’s better than being unemployed and being on the dole?

[cookin_on_gaz]

But he is still earning a wage, legally minimum wage or not? Surely it’s better than being unemployed and being on the dole?Surely being a taxi driver takes more skill than someone, say, stacking shelves. Bet there are more than a few taxi drivers on here and most wouldn't even sniff at minimum wage

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[Up The Bracket]

But he is still earning a wage, legally minimum wage or not? Surely it’s better than being unemployed and being on the dole?

And will be more than people on pennies at fast food restaurants and supermarkets that people are happy to use but for some reason taxi drivers are hard done by....

[cookin_on_gaz]

And will be more than people on pennies at fast food restaurants and supermarkets that people are happy to use but for some reason taxi drivers are hard done by....See above

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[tamig]

Surely being a taxi driver takes more skill than someone, say, stacking shelves. Bet there are more than a few taxi drivers on here and most wouldn't even sniff at minimum wage

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Like I said earlier in another post, how do you know what they’re earning and what the business model is? I’m sure the guys will be doing ok or they’d be driving private hires.

[cookin_on_gaz]

Like I said earlier in another post, how do you know what they’re earning and what the business model is? I’m sure the guys will be doing ok or they’d be driving private hires.I'm judging it on the taxi being half the price than normal. Someone is taking a hit and experience tells me it's rarely the employer.

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[The 90+2]

Surely being a taxi driver takes more skill than someone, say, stacking shelves. Bet there are more than a few taxi drivers on here and most wouldn't even sniff at minimum wage

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Driving is a skill. Slagging off folk stacking shelves is pretty harsh. Both are following instructions albeit via a sat nav. Question times about to start anyway so it’s not the kind of discussion can be bothered with.

[SMAXXA]

Folk moan about things being too expensive now folk are calling out the poor employee 😂 this place is bonkers. A taxi driver like any other employee is making a wage if he doesn’t like it get another employer or job simple I’d say. same applies to mine and any other job.

[cookin_on_gaz]

Lol now you are being petty. At no point did I slag someone who stacks shelves, I simply stated that the level of skill required to do so should command a lesser wage than someone who has a more skills to offer. Its called capitalism.



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[The 90+2]

And will be more than people on pennies at fast food restaurants and supermarkets that people are happy to use but for some reason taxi drivers are hard done by....

Yep. It’s hardly slave labour.

Now is see Callum’s point about ripping all things hibs. OP put a positive thread out about a sponsor and it’s rip it to bits and please will someone think of the children.

The more popular the company or app gets the more the drivers will get paid, or it could be like Uber where they work for themselves and every single driver I’ve ever spoke to love their job. It’s hardly in the same bracket as the students cycling tourists all over the Grassmarket on a pissing down Sunday night.

[Cool_Hand_Luke]

Ordered a 4 seater and 6 seater to take 10 of us to South Queensferry on Saturday - the 4 seater turned up in time, the 6 seater never arrived so had to get an Uber at short notice.
Booking was accepted fine, no message saying car not available. No answer when I phoned up to try and find out where it is.
Not really too fussed, but emailed to highlight the issue (along with letting them know both their email and web address was incorrect on their app) and give feedback as I presume they are a new company and it gives them a chance to fix anything. Still no response - this could be due to their email being incorrect and me guessing it wrong (it had .uk and not .co.uk)
They would probably be last on my list to use now...

[The 90+2]

Lol now you are being petty. At no point did I slag someone who stacks shelves, I simply stated that the level of skill required to do so should command a lesser wage than someone who has a more skills to offer. Its called capitalism.



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Taxi driver guy applies for the job knowing the wage, which is probably above applying for a job stacking shelves. **** knows what this has got to do with football. Can we not just blame it on Anthony Stokes who isn’t a legend and get in with it?

[calumhibee1]

Surely being a taxi driver takes more skill than someone, say, stacking shelves. Bet there are more than a few taxi drivers on here and most wouldn't even sniff at minimum wage

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Does it? Stick the sat nav on and drive a car which absolutely stacks of people can do no problem. I’d find it easier and more enjoyable to do that than stack shelves tbh and if I got asked to do one or the other for minimum wage I’d choose driving a car every time.

[cookin_on_gaz]

Taxi driver guy applies for the job knowing the wage, which is probably above applying for a job stacking shelves. **** knows what this has got to do with football. Can we not just blame it on Anthony Stokes who isn’t a legend and get in with it?You chose to open the thread and respond.

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[cookin_on_gaz]

Does it? Stick the sat nav on and drive a car which absolutely stacks of people can do no problem. I’d find it easier and more enjoyable to do that than stack shelves tbh and if I got asked to do one or the other for minimum wage I’d choose driving a car every time.Driving a car = people's lives in your hand
Working at tescoo = might drop a tin of beans

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[tamig]

Driving a car = people's lives in your hand
Working at tescoo = might drop a tin of beans

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And your point is caller?

[tonyrougier123]

Taxi driver guy applies for the job knowing the wage, which is probably above applying for a job stacking shelves. **** knows what this has got to do with football. Can we not just blame it on Anthony Stokes who isn’t a legend and get in with it?
The wages are making the taxi drivers feel anxious and apparently it is spreading to the bus drivers.

[Captain Trips]

Time to just focus on your on wages and own lives. Great price for taxi and that's all that concerns me. If driver earns £100s or £1 it is their life and can get on with it like we all need to.

[cookin_on_gaz]

And your point is caller?My point was made a few posts above

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[CraigHibee]

The driver will only see a fraction of that and I would be surprised if he is earning much more than minimum wage.

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and probably having to work all the hours he can to get a semi-decent wage as well, great that it was a cheap fare but the driver will be getting shafted

[calumhibee1]

Time to just focus on your on wages and own lives. Great price for taxi and that's all that concerns me. If driver earns £100s or £1 it is their life and can get on with it like we all need to.

:agree:

[The 90+2]

and probably having to work all the hours he can to get a semi-decent wage as well, great that it was a cheap fare but the driver will be getting shafted

Probably the same living wage as Taiwan making shoes. Or maybe no.

[Not In The Know]

If anyone has the time and has the inclination to work out the frequency of a positive opening post on a thread turning negative I’d love to know.

ps I’m looking forward to the match at the weekend.

[Wee Effen Bee]

Nobody goes to McDonalds and is concerned that the guy serving them is on minimum wage so God knows why it seems to be such a thing with taxis.

I have never been to MacDonalds - mainly because of their attitude towards workers’ rights!

[1875godsgift]

Driving a car = people's lives in your hand
Working at tescoo = might drop a tin of beans

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Just left school, working at Woolco in Livingston stacking bread.

Pumping the pallet truck of emptys in the bread aisle thinking 'This is hard work' then heard a muffled scream from the next aisle.

Ran round the corner and in the next aisle is a poor wee old man, up to his waist in packets of kitchen roll, his trolley full of packets of kitchen roll, looking mightily traumatised.

One of the forks of my pallet truck had caught in the pallet of kitchen rolls, causing a 10 foot tower to cascade upon him.

Now if that had been tins of beans, I'd have bean up on a manslaughter charge :agree:

[Buck Mulligan]

Nobody goes to McDonalds and is concerned that the guy serving them is on minimum wage so God knows why it seems to be such a thing with taxis.

The guy at McDs doesn't have to buy, service, and insure the building hes trading from. Will most likely get holiday pay and other contractual rights. Not really a valid comparison.

[cookin_on_gaz]

Just left school, working at Woolco in Livingston stacking bread.

Pumping the pallet truck of emptys in the bread aisle thinking 'This is hard work' then heard a muffled scream from the next aisle.

Ran round the corner and in the next aisle is a poor wee old man, up to his waist in packets of kitchen roll, his trolley full of packets of kitchen roll, looking mightily traumatised.

One of the forks of my pallet truck had caught in the pallet of kitchen rolls, causing a 10 foot tower to cascade upon him.

Now if that had been tins of beans, I'd have bean up on a manslaughter charge :agree:Shouldn't be operating a pallet truck just out of school :-p

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[The 90+2]

Nobody get any food or drinks from the kiosks at home ever again. Slave labour.

[The 90+2]

Just left school, working at Woolco in Livingston stacking bread.

Pumping the pallet truck of emptys in the bread aisle thinking 'This is hard work' then heard a muffled scream from the next aisle.

Ran round the corner and in the next aisle is a poor wee old man, up to his waist in packets of kitchen roll, his trolley full of packets of kitchen roll, looking mightily traumatised.

One of the forks of my pallet truck had caught in the pallet of kitchen rolls, causing a 10 foot tower to cascade upon him.

Now if that had been tins of beans, I'd have bean up on a manslaughter charge :agree:

Could be worse mate, you could be driving one of these beep beep taxis.

[1875godsgift]

Shouldn't be operating a pallet truck just out of school :-p

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Well, in the old days, you got told what to do and just got on with it....

The point is, tins of beans can be dangerous (see what I did there?)

[The Modfather]

I have never been to MacDonalds - mainly because of their attitude towards workers’ rights!

I find that difficult to believe :hmmm:

[SMAXXA]

Check the taxi drivers with the violins out in this thread 😂, always pleading poverty only 3 holidays a year poor *******s

[Captain Trips]

The guy at McDs doesn't have to buy, service, and insure the building hes trading from. Will most likely get holiday pay and other contractual rights. Not really a valid comparison.

Well then its the same as 10000s of self employed people then so whats the big deal? Some self employed people makes £100000s some not a lot. Some people who get regular wage get £100000s some get less. I do not read anything new on all this that has not been life for years and years.

Somebody that rents a chair in a salon might get 30 customers one week and none the next and have to still pay for the chair. Whats the fuss over what a taxi driver might be earning?

[mca]

I find that difficult to believe :hmmm:


TBF.. I have never been to Domino's or pizza Hut, Chiquito, Wagamama, and quite a few others... But yeah mcdonalds is quite hard to believe.. :agree:

[Captain Trips]

I have never been to MacDonalds - mainly because of their attitude towards workers’ rights!

Good, I bet like me you will have a fair few items in your house that were made in conditions likely to be worse than that of Mcds. Perhaps some clothing a TV, a part inside that TV a part in a STB 100s of stuff.

[Captain Trips]

TBF.. I have never been to Domino's or pizza Hut, Chiquito, Wagamama, and quite a few others... But yeah mcdonalds is quite hard to believe.. :agree:

I find Dominos and PH well over priced. Chiquito not been to in years. Want to try Wagamama though.

[Captain Trips]

Sponsored by gambling and alcohol over the years which for most bring joy however there will be sad stories related to drinking and or gambling. Possibly more so than the wage a f+++++g Beep Beep driver might be paid.

BTW I have no issue with the sponsors we have had as people need to take responsibility for own choices. Coming from a member of GA btw.

[HibeeHibernian4]

Time to just focus on your on wages and own lives. Great price for taxi and that's all that concerns me. If driver earns £100s or £1 it is their life and can get on with it like we all need to.

The club you support probably wouldn't exist if people had that attitude back in the 1870s.

[Captain Trips]

The club you support probably wouldn't exist if people had that attitude back in the 1870s.

Aye ok then.

[SeanWilson]

Folk moan about things being too expensive now folk are calling out the poor employee 😂 this place is bonkers. A taxi driver like any other employee is making a wage if he doesn’t like it get another employer or job simple I’d say. same applies to mine and any other job.

There is no employer, you're self employed. You make what you make, minus costs.

[I'm_cabbaged]

Jeezo, take a look at houses that black taxis are parked outside, not a bad living I’d say. Anyway I used the app on Friday night, £11.30 from Lothian road to newcraighall!! I reckon it would be well over a score in a black taxi.

[Doh Rae Me]

No where on any beep beep vehicle or driver will you find the word taxi.

In this case say 15 minutes to get to the pickup at Waverley, job is half an hour, an if he's very lucky another job 15minutes after dropping off. So £8.90 An hour, minus tax and NI, 20% to beep beep, fuel, wear and tear.

It's a sprint to get to the bottom. Beep beep offer nothing to Edinburgh it is purely software. I'd like to go into the people behind it all but my post would probably be taken down plus I value my knee caps.

[Gloucester Hibs]

If anyone has the time and has the inclination to work out the frequency of a positive opening post on a thread turning negative I’d love to know.

ps I’m looking forward to the match at the weekend.

You could predict the way this was going to go before evening opening the thread, was only a question of how many posts before someone questioned the degradation of taxi driver's wages, capitalism get mentioned etc etc

[calumhibee1]

No where on any beep beep vehicle or driver will you find the word taxi.

In this case say 15 minutes to get to the pickup at Waverley, job is half an hour, an if he's very lucky another job 15minutes after dropping off. So £8.90 An hour, minus tax and NI, 20% to beep beep, fuel, wear and tear.

It's a sprint to get to the bottom. Beep beep offer nothing to Edinburgh it is purely software. I'd like to go into the people behind it all but my post would probably be taken down plus I value my knee caps.

Other than taxi drivers I don’t think anybody actually cares about the technicalities of whether it’s a taxi or not. Bit like getting really defensive when telling folk that a Dyson isn’t actually a Hoover.

[Doh Rae Me]

Other than taxi drivers I don’t think anybody actually cares about the technicalities of whether it’s a taxi or not. Bit like getting really defensive when telling folk that a Dyson isn’t actually a Hoover.

Yes, you're right, most people don't care and go for cheapest option. The same as battery chicken to free range it depends on the budget you have.
It does have ramifications all down the line tho if people care to look further.

[Pretty Boy]

It's just another example of the Amazonisation of society. People want goods or services for the cheapest possible price regardless of future consequences or wider societal concerns. It's nothing new, it happened with supermarkets a generation or 2 before.

You can't lay the blame at the feet of individuals. A lot of people are living month to month and if a service offers to get them from A to B for a fiver cheaper then you can't always afford to have morals. I wonder how many people who complain about Uber et al think nothing of the impact of buying fresh fruit from a supermarket in December. How did it get there? What are the working conditions of the person who picked it? What was the environmental impact of it travelling thousands of miles to satisfy customer demand for unseasonal produce? It's not a hugely different situation, cheap taxis are just less ingrained into our psyche at the moment.

[BoomtownHibees]

and probably having to work all the hours he can to get a semi-decent wage as well, great that it was a cheap fare but the driver will be getting shafted

Just as well it’s no forced on them then!!

Would be better getting a job stacking shelf’s

[J-C]

Does it? Stick the sat nav on and drive a car which absolutely stacks of people can do no problem. I’d find it easier and more enjoyable to do that than stack shelves tbh and if I got asked to do one or the other for minimum wage I’d choose driving a car every time.

And what if the sat nav doesn't tell you of temporary road closures like we have now with all the filming going on.

This new beep beep thing is just all the 7's rebranding, a PHC company,it is not taxi's.

[Pretty Boy]

Just as well it’s no forced on them then!!

Would be better getting a job stacking shelf’s

Why does it matter if someone is forced to do a job or not? Do we just accept exploitative working conditions in any industry because 'no one is forcing them to do it'? I've done a few crap jobs in my time, particularly when I was younger; crap pay, crap conditions and being treated like ***** on someone's shoe would have been a step up on the respect ladder. It wasn't always as simple as 'just get a better job'.

Surely as a society we are better than that? I blame politicians and commentators who have turned 'hard working families' into a meaningless buzz word. It often appears to be made in reference to people working ridiculous hours, across multiple jobs in some instances, to make enough money to barely get by. That's then painted as some noble endeavour rather than the disgrace it is. It's a sad legacy for an entire generation of people to leave, they'll happily lecture a 20 something telling them that having a mobile phone is why they are struggling to get by though.

Implementing a proper living wage would have a bottom up effect of giving everyone a bit more money to spend. It will never happen though because there's too many vested interests and people happy to lay the blame at the feet of those who are struggling rather than asking why that is the case.

[BoomtownHibees]

Why does it matter if someone is forced to do a job or not? Do we just accept exploitative working conditions in any industry because 'no one is forcing them to do it'? I've done a few crap jobs in my time, particularly when I was younger; crap pay, crap conditions and being treated like ***** on someone's shoe would have been a step up on the respect ladder. It wasn't always as simple as 'just get a better job'.

Surely as a society we are better than that? I blame politicians and commentators who have turned 'hard working families' into a meaningless buzz word. It often appears to be made in reference to people working ridiculous hours, across multiple jobs in some instances, to make enough money to barely get by. That's then painted as some noble endeavour rather than the disgrace it is. It's a sad legacy for an entire generation of people to leave, they'll happily lecture a 20 something telling them that having a mobile phone is why they are struggling to get by though.

Implementing a proper living wage would have a bottom up effect of giving everyone a bit more money to spend. It will never happen though because there's too many vested interests and people happy to lay the blame at the feet of those who are struggling rather than asking why that is the case.

If the pay and conditions working for this particular company are that bad then yeah, there are hundreds of firms out there where they could do exactly the same job and get paid “more fairly” for it.

[easty]

This new been been thing is just all the 7's rebranding, a PHC company,it is not taxi's.

Pringles are crisps
Jaffa Cakes are biscuits
Uber’s and Beep Beeps etc, the “PHC’s” are taxis

People can try to claim different but they are what they are

[Cataplana]

Pringles are crisps
Jaffa Cakes are biscuits
Uber’s and Beep Beeps etc, the “PHC’s” are taxis

People can try to claim different but they are what they are

Biscuits go soft when they are stale, and cakes go hard.Jaffa cakes go hard, so they are cakes.

Otherwise, I agree, a security guard is not a policeman, for example.

[Oscar T Grouch]

Great football chat on this thread. I take it the main board is for any subject matter now? Or should this be in the holy ground?

[Captain Trips]

No where on any beep beep vehicle or driver will you find the word taxi.

In this case say 15 minutes to get to the pickup at Waverley, job is half an hour, an if he's very lucky another job 15minutes after dropping off. So £8.90 An hour, minus tax and NI, 20% to beep beep, fuel, wear and tear.

It's a sprint to get to the bottom. Beep beep offer nothing to Edinburgh it is purely software. I'd like to go into the people behind it all but my post would probably be taken down plus I value my knee caps.


Its easy to make a scenario to suit a point, what about when later on at night with less traffic gets 3 or 4 jobs in an hour that net £30 in total due to the fact its quiet on roads.

[easty]

Biscuits go soft when they are stale, and cakes go hard.Jaffa cakes go hard, so they are cakes.

Otherwise, I agree, a security guard is not a policeman, for example.

You’re over complicating it, the same way someone would say a beep beep isn’t a taxi.

It’s a biscuit.

A tomato is a vegetable.

[easty]

Great football chat on this thread. I take it the main board is for any subject matter now? Or should this be in the holy ground?

If we sign Efe Ambrose and he asks to be picked up in a taxi with some biscuits on hand, would he be raging if we sent an Uber with a box of Jaffa cakes?

Better?

[danhibees1875]

If we sign Efe Ambrose and he asks to be picked up in a taxi with some biscuits on hand, would he be raging if we sent an Uber with a box of Jaffa cakes?

Better?

So long as the interior has been well hoovered it'll be fine. :aok:

[Kojock]

Capital Cars - All the Sevens - Beep Beep all the same with the common denominator being a Stephen Rose. All info is readily available to the public.

[calumhibee1]

And what if the sat nav doesn't tell you of temporary road closures like we have now with all the filming going on.

This new beep beep thing is just all the 7's rebranding, a PHC company,it is not taxi's.

Then the sat nav readjusts and goes a different route. Much like when a black cab driver finds out a road is closed and then has to go a different route.

[calumhibee1]

Capital Cars - All the Sevens - Beep Beep all the same with the common denominator being a Stephen Rose. All info is readily available to the public.

What’s the info? That he (in saying that I’m not even sure if it’s the same guy or not) sold copied PS2 games in 2003? :confused: cause that’s about the only thing of note coming up if I search for him other than the fact he spent a lot of money on a private plate.

Crime of the century.

Edit: it would appear based on his age that it’s not the same guy anyway. What’s Stephen Rose done?

[The 90+2]

You’re over complicating it, the same way someone would say a beep beep isn’t a taxi.

It’s a biscuit.

A tomato is a vegetable.

A taxis a biscuit mate 😉

[J-C]

Then the sat nav readjusts and goes a different route. Much like when a black cab driver finds out a road is closed and then has to go a different route.

So the driver goes say 2 miles, then realises the road is closed and readjust to ho another way, in the mean time your charged more because Uber charges on distance covered. Meanwhile a cabbie knows what's open and what's closed and goes the correct way from get go.

[Kojock]

What’s the info? That he (in saying that I’m not even sure if it’s the same guy or not) sold copied PS2 games in 2003? :confused: cause that’s about the only thing of note coming up if I search for him other than the fact he spent a lot of money on a private plate.

Crime of the century.

Edit: it would appear based on his age that it’s not the same guy anyway. What’s Stephen Rose done?

I never said he had done anything just pointing out that he has been involved with the three companies. Liquidated Capital Cars owing £300000 to the VAT man tho.

[Oscar T Grouch]

If we sign Efe Ambrose and he asks to be picked up in a taxi with some biscuits on hand, would he be raging if we sent an Uber with a box of Jaffa cakes?

Better?

No really, I just thought the main board was for discussing football and Hibs related stuff. Taxi drivers wages imho fall out with this. For what it’s worth Efe won’t be coming back unless we magic some money from nowhere, which doesn’t really happen often.

[Doh Rae Me]

In the laundry business.

[easty]

A taxis a biscuit mate 😉

:greengrin:top marks

[Box 17]

Well, in spite of all the talk about drivers wages and the fact I'd never heard of Beep Beep before, thanks to this thread I've downloaded the app.

If it gets me from A to B cheaper than a standard cab then I'll give them a try.

Sponsorship works!

[calumhibee1]

So the driver goes say 2 miles, then realises the road is closed and readjust to ho another way, in the mean time your charged more because Uber charges on distance covered. Meanwhile a cabbie knows what's open and what's closed and goes the correct way from get go.

Yeah, but we both know that cabbies don’t always know what’s opened and what’s closed, don’t we? Which is fine by the way, it’s impossible to know it all. The cabbies are nearly flawless while Uber drivers are hopeless argument doesn’t really stand up to scrutiny. We’ve all seen black cabs do ridiculous things on the roads aswell and the only folk that ever seem to put that argument forward are taxi drivers. Are you a taxi driver by any chance?

[calumhibee1]

I never said he had done anything just pointing out that he has been involved with the three companies. Liquidated Capital Cars owing £300000 to the VAT man tho.

Apologies, I thought that’s what you were alluding to. I’ve interpreted your post wrong in that case :aok:

[J-C]

Yeah, but we both know that cabbies don’t always know what’s opened and what’s closed, don’t we? Which is fine by the way, it’s impossible to know it all. The cabbies are nearly flawless while Uber drivers are hopeless argument doesn’t really stand up to scrutiny. We’ve all seen black cabs do ridiculous things on the roads aswell and the only folk that ever seem to put that argument forward are taxi drivers. Are you a taxi driver by any chance?


Yes I am and proud of it, 30 years now and never once have I driven up Forest Rd the wrong way, turned right from Lothian Rd onto the west approach on the wrong side onto oncoming traffic. Nor have I went onto the bypass on the wrong slip road into oncoming traffic and had to reverse back up the slip road. But on you go if you meant to save that couple of quid.

I now see why Blackpoolhibs has a go at you all the time, once you get something in your teeth you go on and on until you think you're right.

[SaulGoodman]

Mon the Hibs

[Captain Trips]

So the driver goes say 2 miles, then realises the road is closed and readjust to ho another way, in the mean time your charged more because Uber charges on distance covered. Meanwhile a cabbie knows what's open and what's closed and goes the correct way from get go.

I do not see why a cabbie would no more on whats open or closed than an uber driver if both in same city and driving about all day. I understand a cabbie is totally free to pick a route and if I am right Uber tells the driver the route? If the latter is right and say Uber driver knows a road is closed but app telling them ok are they able to decide to go different route?

[J-C]

I do not see why a cabbie would no more on whats open or closed than an uber driver if both in same city and driving about all day. I understand a cabbie is totally free to pick a route and if I am right Uber tells the driver the route? If the latter is right and say Uber driver knows a road is closed but app telling them ok are they able to decide to go different route?

It's up to all drivers to check on the council site what's open and whats not, my point was that nearly all Uber go by the satnav

[ahibby]

[QUOTE=easty;5924801]You’re over complicating it, the same way someone would say a beep beep isn’t a taxi.

It’s a biscuit.

A tomato is a vegetable.[/QUOTE

A tomato is a fruit

[easty]

A tomato is a fruit

No its not.

[danhibees1875]

A tomato is a fruit

Technically. But the point he's making is that it may as well just be considered a vegetable.

Like a Dyson vacuum is considered a hoover, cheap sticky tape is sellotape, and a beep beep/Uber is a taxi.

[ahibby]

Technically. But the point he's making is that it may as well just be considered a vegetable.

Like a Dyson vacuum is considered a hoover, cheap sticky tape is sellotape, and a beep beep/Uber is a taxi.

I love this forum at times like this.

[SaulGoodman]

I love this forum at times like this.

Is it a forum or a message board?

[matty_f]

Thread moved, very little in the way of football chat.

Not even a "Hecky out". :greengrin

[danhibees1875]

Thread moved, very little in the way of football chat.

Not even a "Hecky out". :greengrin

Uber for Hecky... :taxi

[matty_f]

Uber for Hecky... :taxi

That's more like it!

[calumhibee1]

Yes I am and proud of it, 30 years now and never once have I driven up Forest Rd the wrong way, turned right from Lothian Rd onto the west approach on the wrong side onto oncoming traffic. Nor have I went onto the bypass on the wrong slip road into oncoming traffic and had to reverse back up the slip road. But on you go if you meant to save that couple of quid.

I now see why Blackpoolhibs has a go at you all the time, once you get something in your teeth you go on and on until you think you're right.

And we’ve all seen plenty black cabs swing out in front of others cars without indicating to pick up a fair. Or been going well over the speed limit. There’s examples of **** drivers everywhere, black cabs aren’t any different, as much as a lot of taxi drivers would like to tell everyone otherwise. Majority are absolutely competent, some aren’t. Majority of Uber drivers or whatever other form of taxi we want to discuss are also absolutely competent, some aren’t.

No idea why some taxi drivers get so defensive over their profession or have such a sense of entitlement.

Don’t go having a strop because people prefer other methods of transport.

[lord bunberry]

Check the taxi drivers with the violins out in this thread 😂, always pleading poverty only 3 holidays a year poor *******s
There hasn’t been one post from a taxi driver up until your post. There seems to be a misconception that taxi drivers are sitting in their taxis raging that people are using Uber or whoever else. I’m not sure how long these app companies have been on the go, but it’s made zero difference to the black cab trade. Every company has seen a year on year increase in bookings and from a personal point of view my takings haven’t been affected. If people want to use these app companies then good for them, but let’s not try and make out they’re somehow sticking it up the taxi trade by doing so.

[calumhibee1]

There hasn’t been one post from a taxi driver up until your post. There seems to be a misconception that taxi drivers are sitting in their taxis raging that people are using Uber or whoever else. I’m not sure how long these app companies have been on the go, but it’s made zero difference to the black cab trade. Every company has seen a year on year increase in bookings and from a personal point of view my takings haven’t been affected. If people want to use these app companies then good for them, but let’s not try and make out they’re somehow sticking it up the taxi trade by doing so.

Think Uber has been around for 10 years or so. Good to hear that there is clearly enough work for everyone though. Something which is often suggested isn’t the case.

[tamig]

It's up to all drivers to check on the council site what's open and whats not, my point was that nearly all Uber go by the satnav

Nearly all. There are bad black cab drivers as there are bad PHC drivers. Your peers aren’t flawless.

[tamig]

And we’ve all seen plenty black cabs swing out in front of others cars without indicating to pick up a fair. Or been going well over the speed limit. There’s examples of **** drivers everywhere, black cabs aren’t any different, as much as a lot of taxi drivers would like to tell everyone otherwise. Majority are absolutely competent, some aren’t. Majority of Uber drivers or whatever other form of taxi we want to discuss are also absolutely competent, some aren’t.

No idea why some taxi drivers get so defensive over their profession or have such a sense of entitlement.

Don’t go having a strop because people prefer other methods of transport.

Because the emergence of the PHC is a threat to the gravy train.

[Fife-Hibee]

These companies are going to end up pricing out taxi drivers who are required to do everything by the book, who have large overheads and who speak English and know where they're going.

We often complain about a low wage economy, but allow our greed as a consumer to actively facilitate it. It has "i'm all right jackery" written all over it.

[Gloucester Hibs]

Technically. But the point he's making is that it may as well just be considered a vegetable.

Like a Dyson vacuum is considered a hoover, cheap sticky tape is sellotape, and a beep beep/Uber is a taxi.

And....and... people also say “Tannoy” when what they mean is public address system!

[J-C]

Because the emergence of the PHC is a threat to the gravy train.

No problem with competition, we've always had it. What we hate is the illegal picking up from PHC, the fact that they overcharge with their surges and many other dodgy stuff.

It can still be a good living but longer hours are required which isn't what many guys want when they get over 60 and see retirement round the corner.

[patch1875]

No problem with competition, we've always had it. What we hate is the illegal picking up from PHC, the fact that they overcharge with their surges and many other dodgy stuff.

It can still be a good living but longer hours are required which isn't what many guys want when they get over 60 and see retirement round the corner.

Don’t know why taxis keep going on about the surge, Uber is about half the price of a black cab on its standard fare.

Try and get an Uber when it’s busy you are advised of this with an estimated cost not happy with it don’t accept it! You get plenty warning.

[calumhibee1]

Don’t know why taxis keep going on about the surge, Uber is about half the price of a black cab on its standard fare.

Try and get an Uber when it’s busy you are advised of this with an estimated cost not happy with it don’t accept it! You get plenty warning.

And taxis also put their price up during busy periods as well.

[Cataplana]

And taxis also put their price up during busy periods as well.

I didn't know that, I thought the tariffs were the same all the time.

[BroxburnHibee]

And taxis also put their price up during busy periods as well.

No they don't.

That's a blatant falsehood and you know it.

[calumhibee1]

I didn't know that, I thought the tariffs were the same all the time.

There’s 4(I think?) different tariffs. That’s 4 different price points and an ability to put the prices up and down at busy periods. Hardly any different to Uber is it? Uber just do it on a more flexible, less fixed basis.

Taxi fairs are increased all weekend, every weekend from the base tariff judging by the ECC website if we really want to moan about Uber increasing theirs.

[patch1875]

I didn't know that, I thought the tariffs were the same all the time.

There’s 4 tariffs that change day/night also Xmas new year tariff.

[easty]

These companies are going to end up pricing out taxi drivers who are required to do everything by the book, who have large overheads and who speak English and know where they're going.

We often complain about a low wage economy, but allow our greed as a consumer to actively facilitate it. It has "i'm all right jackery" written all over it.

Aye I often have to get out my phone and use google translate to have any kind of conversation with my Uber driver, right enough :confused:

[BroxburnHibee]

There’s 4(I think?) different tariffs. That’s 4 different price points and an ability to put the prices up and down at busy periods. Hardly any different to Uber is it? Uber just do it on a more flexible, less fixed basis.

Taxi fairs are increased all weekend, every weekend from the base tariff judging by the ECC website if we really want to moan about Uber increasing theirs.

They are not increased all weekend. Again another falsehood.

[calumhibee1]

They are not increased all weekend. Again another falsehood.

http://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/download/downloads/id/4118/taxi_fare_card_from_18_june_2018.pdf

This would seem to suggest from 6am on Saturday morning they’re increased until 6am Monday. So either I’m reading it wrong or you’re claiming they’re not increased ALL weekend because of the 6 hour window on Saturday morning before they go up..

[Cataplana]

There’s 4 tariffs that change day/night also Xmas new year tariff.

(The things you learn on here.)

Just looked it up, there are two tariffs, one for day during the week, and one for night and all weekend.

There are two more that replace these at Christmas, and New Year.

Not the same as surge charges on Uber.

[patch1875]

They are not increased all weekend. Again another falsehood.

Isn’t it tariff 2 all weekend?

[Cataplana]

http://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/download/downloads/id/4118/taxi_fare_card_from_18_june_2018.pdf

This would seem to suggest from 6am on Saturday morning they’re increased until 6am Monday. So either I’m reading it wrong or you’re claiming they’re not increased ALL weekend because of the 6 hour window on Saturday morning before they go up..

6pm Friday, till 6 am Monday.

[calumhibee1]

(The things you learn on here.)

Just looked it up, there are two tariffs, one for day during the week, and one for night and all weekend.

There are two more that replace these at Christmas, and New Year.

Not the same as surge charges on Uber.

Not the exact same because Uber’s increases aren’t defined in terms of when it’ll happen or by how much.. Other than that though it’s still an increase in the fair. So the same concept really, the fairs go up when it’s busier and/or less desirable to work. Just that the black cab version is more predictable.

[Cataplana]

Not the exact same because Uber’s increases aren’t defined in terms of when it’ll happen or by how much.. Other than that though it’s still an increase in the fair. So the same concept really, the fairs go up when it’s busier and/or less desirable to work. Just that the black cab version is more predictable.

Yes, that's the essence. The black cab one is more predictable in that it is set a year in advance.

[BroxburnHibee]

http://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/download/downloads/id/4118/taxi_fare_card_from_18_june_2018.pdf

This would seem to suggest from 6am on Saturday morning they’re increased until 6am Monday. So either I’m reading it wrong or you’re claiming they’re not increased ALL weekend because of the 6 hour window on Saturday morning before they go up..


Isn’t it tariff 2 all weekend?

Yeah ok I got that bit wrong so apologies. In my defence I never work Sundays :greengrin

However that's a standard fare rate over the whole weekend - quite different from Calums quote "and an ability to put the prices up and down at busy periods."

We cant. Prices and rates are set by the council and cant be altered.

[calumhibee1]

Yeah ok I got that bit wrong so apologies. In my defence I never work Sundays :greengrin

However that's a standard fare rate over the whole weekend - quite different from Calums quote "and an ability to put the prices up and down at busy periods."

We cant. Prices and rates are set by the council and cant be altered.

Not at all, no need to apologise.

I didn’t mean that they can just be set willy nilly. But they do have the ability to go up or down at busy periods. The big difference is that it’s set in stone when that will be and what the increase will be. It’s not a massively dissimilar concept to surge pricing though. Just that Uber’s is a more “live” system.

[matty_f]

Uber don't over-charge, they just charge - the user accepts or declines the fee. That's part of the transaction.

Over-charging would be if there was a prescribed rate and they charged more than that (i.e. Hibs advertising concession prices then charging concessions full price)

[lord bunberry]

Not at all, no need to apologise.

I didn’t mean that they can just be set willy nilly. But they do have the ability to go up or down at busy periods, it’s just that it’s set at the start of every year. Maybe ability makes it sound more of a choice, but it does happen with black cabs. Like I said though, it’s just more predictable.
They don’t have the ability to up or down at busy periods. They’re set and can’t be changed until there’s a fare review. Your wording is suggesting that during busy periods the price can rise which just isn’t true. There’s a day shift rate, a night shift rate, and two rates during the Christmas and new year period. The busiest period of the year is the festival and the price then is the same as it is in January.

[calumhibee1]

They don’t have the ability to up or down at busy periods. They’re set and can’t be changed until there’s a fare review. Your wording is suggesting that during busy periods the price can rise which just isn’t true. There’s a day shift rate, a night shift rate, and two rates during the Christmas and new year period. The busiest period of the year is the festival and the price then is the same as it is in January.

Ok, apologies for the use of the word ability. I wasn’t suggesting that the fares can be changed as and when a black cab driver fancies.

Point still stands though, black cab rates vary and are increased at certain times which is exactly the issue people claim they have with Uber.

Having the technology that Uber have at their disposal allows them to do it on a sort of live, in-play, more variable basis which black cabs of course don’t. That’s the only real difference in the concept of it.

[Cataplana]

Ok, apologies for the use of the word ability. I wasn’t suggesting that the fares can be changed as and when a black cab driver fancies.

Point still stands though, black cab rates vary and are increased at certain times which is exactly the issue people claim they have with Uber.

Having the technology that Uber have at their disposal allows them to do it on a sort of live, in-play, more variable basis which black cabs of course don’t. That’s the only real difference in the concept of it.

The point is that you always know what you will pay in a taxi meter car (PHC are on the same tariff) as the price is set annually. You can never be sure how much an Uber will cost you.

Imagine if pubs operated on a surge pricing system, it would cost you more for a pint the busier the pub was. You would never be sure what your round would cost every time you went to the bar.

[Mibbes Aye]

We were down on Manchester for the cricket for a few days and used Uber a lot, as well as black cabs.

Uber tells you the price in advance and it does vary depending on demand, but that’s your choice. Our biggest problem was we were staying relatively close to Old Trafford so there were bigger fares on offer. This meant we got acceptances which then got cancelled but that’s the nature of it.

All our drivers have always been friendly, polite and spoke English well or perfectly. Same in Birmingham and Leeds. In fact it was Leeds where we had a black cab driver who tried to take us a far too long route back to our apartment as well as being a bit of a racist ****

[J-C]

And taxis also put their price up during busy periods as well.

No we don't, that's a complete lie. There are 2 normal prices 6am-6pm starts at £2.60 and 6pm-6am is £3.60, only prices dearer are xmas and new year. I've seen quotes from Uber at busy times going from city centre to the airport of £45-60 during a surge, our prices stay the same even when we're chocka but don't let the truth get in way of having a dig at taxi drivers.

[calumhibee1]

The point is that you always know what you will pay in a taxi meter car (PHC are on the same tariff) as the price is set annually. You can never be sure how much an Uber will cost you.

Imagine if pubs operated on a surge pricing system, it would cost you more for a pint the busier the pub was. You would never be sure what your round would cost every time you went to the bar.

There’s no doubting that a surge system has downsides to it. But when you consider the fact that the fares are so low when it’s not surging then I think it’s something that most folk are happy to accept as part of the package.

[Cataplana]

There’s no doubting that a surge system has downsides to it. But when you consider the fact that the fares are so low when it’s not surging then I think it’s something that most folk are happy to accept as part of the package.

The option is there if they want to take it. It pays to shop around.

[calumhibee1]

No we don't, that's a complete lie. There are 2 normal prices 6am-6pm starts at £2.60 and 6pm-6am is £3.60, only prices dearer are xmas and new year. I've seen quotes from Uber at busy times going from city centre to the airport of £45-60 during a surge, our prices stay the same even when we're chocka but don't let the truth get in way of having a dig at taxi drivers.

So they don’t go up.. yet you go on to tell us about how they start at £2.60 then go up to £3.60 and then up again at Xmas and new year :aok:

With regards to a £60 Uber to the airport I’ve never saw anything close to that. However, I could pay for a good few £60 Uber’s to the airport and still end up better off because of how much I’ve saved elsewhere on them. That’s the nature of their pricing structure. Just because the meter is the traditional taxi method of deciding a fare it doesn’t make a new, more technologically advanced method wrong, as much as you might like to think it.

[patch1875]

I done Uber for 3 months through last winter never seen an airport fare anywhere near that.

Cabbies think that the surge is constant trust me it’s not.

[calumhibee1]

I done Uber for 3 months through last winter never seen an airport fare anywhere near that.

Cabbies think that the surge is constant trust me it’s not.

I use it to go to and from the airport for work regularly and I’ve never saw it close to that either. And the 3x surge that has been mentioned a few times I’ve never saw anything close to that. I don’t even think I’ve saw it go 2x.

I’m not doubting that the system would allow it and it may well have even happened. But it would be a rarity to say the least.

[easty]

On Christmas Day last year, I got an Uber from kingsknowe, to stop by the canny man in Stockbridge, then on to liberton golf club.

Just checked on the app.

2pm Christmas Day

£13.18

Cannae complain.

[patch1875]

I use it to go to and from the airport for work regularly and I’ve never saw it close to that either. And the 3x surge that has been mentioned a few times I’ve never saw anything close to that. I don’t even think I’ve saw it go 2x.

I’m not doubting that the system would allow it and it may well have even happened. But it would be a rarity to say the least.

Even 2x will be cheaper than a black cab.

I’ve said before if it a surge cancel and try again in 5 mins as it draws cars to the area the demand will drop.

[calumhibee1]

On Christmas Day last year, I got an Uber from kingsknowe, to stop by the canny man in Stockbridge, then on to liberton golf club.

Just checked on the app.

2pm Christmas Day

£13.18

Cannae complain.

Wtf is the Canny Man? I live in Stockbridge and I’ve never heard of it :greengrin

[Pretty Boy]

Wtf is the Canny Man? I live in Stockbridge and I’ve never heard of it :greengrin

The only Canny Man I can think off in Edinburgh is in Morningside.

There's a lot of detail about it on one of the 'worst pubs in Edinburgh' threads kicking about on here. It's by no means a rough pub but definitely merits it's place on the list.

[tamig]

These companies are going to end up pricing out taxi drivers who are required to do everything by the book, who have large overheads and who speak English and know where they're going.

We often complain about a low wage economy, but allow our greed as a consumer to actively facilitate it. It has "i'm all right jackery" written all over it.
Thats a pretty disgraceful generalisation you’ve made there.

I do have a bit of sympathy for J-C and the like having to go through The Knowledge etc, but there are choices for the drivers as well as the punters nowadays.

[Smartie]

The only Canny Man I can think off in Edinburgh is in Morningside.

There's a lot of detail about it on one of the 'worst pubs in Edinburgh' threads kicking about on here. It's by no means a rough pub but definitely merits it's place on the list.

Anybody having a day out that included the Canny Man and a golf club should have some serious questions to answer regarding their jambo credentials.

The poster in question is allowed the benefit of the doubt for making the journey by uber. 399000 out of 400000 jambos would have just taken the rover.

[tamig]

No we don't, that's a complete lie. There are 2 normal prices 6am-6pm starts at £2.60 and 6pm-6am is £3.60, only prices dearer are xmas and new year. I've seen quotes from Uber at busy times going from city centre to the airport of £45-60 during a surge, our prices stay the same even when we're chocka but don't let the truth get in way of having a dig at taxi drivers.
Do you not have rogue black cab drivers who rip folk off with surcharges? I think the bundle of joy that is hermit mentioned it in another post recently. Maybe in his beloved Musselburgh thread.

[easty]

The only Canny Man I can think off in Edinburgh is in Morningside.

There's a lot of detail about it on one of the 'worst pubs in Edinburgh' threads kicking about on here. It's by no means a rough pub but definitely merits it's place on the list.

I meant morningside

[easty]

Anybody having a day out that included the Canny Man and a golf club should have some serious questions to answer regarding their jambo credentials.

The poster in question is allowed the benefit of the doubt for making the journey by uber. 399000 out of 400000 jambos would have just taken the rover.

I don’t was being dropped off there to go to dinner on Jordan Lane. My dad was going on to dinner at the golf club.

[Pete]

Why does it matter if someone is forced to do a job or not? Do we just accept exploitative working conditions in any industry because 'no one is forcing them to do it'? I've done a few crap jobs in my time, particularly when I was younger; crap pay, crap conditions and being treated like ***** on someone's shoe would have been a step up on the respect ladder. It wasn't always as simple as 'just get a better job'.

Surely as a society we are better than that? I blame politicians and commentators who have turned 'hard working families' into a meaningless buzz word. It often appears to be made in reference to people working ridiculous hours, across multiple jobs in some instances, to make enough money to barely get by. That's then painted as some noble endeavour rather than the disgrace it is. It's a sad legacy for an entire generation of people to leave, they'll happily lecture a 20 something telling them that having a mobile phone is why they are struggling to get by though.

Implementing a proper living wage would have a bottom up effect of giving everyone a bit more money to spend. It will never happen though because there's too many vested interests and people happy to lay the blame at the feet of those who are struggling rather than asking why that is the case.

Spot on, especially your last paragraph. These companies should work out how much it takes to make their drivers employees and base the fares on what is actually possible.
This bogus self employment and ‘flexibility’ is a nonsense that flies in the face of all the workers rights that we’ve fought so hard for. Technology has the potential to make so many people’s lives better but far too often it’s enabling the select few to line their pockets while everyone else is gradually finding things tougher.
It’s a shame that people’s financial circumstances force them into a corner by taking the cheaper option, exacerbating the problem.

[Killiehibbie]

I use it to go to and from the airport for work regularly and I’ve never saw it close to that either. And the 3x surge that has been mentioned a few times I’ve never saw anything close to that. I don’t even think I’ve saw it go 2x.

I’m not doubting that the system would allow it and it may well have even happened. But it would be a rarity to say the least.

The surge was well and truly over 3x the night The Rolling Stones were on last year. A girl waiting on the bus told me her normal 15-17 quid fare was quoted at £62, this was Princes St at half past midnight.

[patch1875]

The surge was well and truly over 3x the night The Rolling Stones were on last year. A girl waiting on the bus told me her normal 15-17 quid fare was quoted at £62, this was Princes St at half past midnight.

It does happen when big events are on as the demand is much higher 5x was common at Hogmanay.

[J-C]

So they don’t go up.. yet you go on to tell us about how they start at £2.60 then go up to £3.60 and then up again at Xmas and new year :aok:

With regards to a £60 Uber to the airport I’ve never saw anything close to that. However, I could pay for a good few £60 Uber’s to the airport and still end up better off because of how much I’ve saved elsewhere on them. That’s the nature of their pricing structure. Just because the meter is the traditional taxi method of deciding a fare it doesn’t make a new, more technologically advanced method wrong, as much as you might like to think it.


Look at his post again, he said taxi go up in price when it's busier, nonsense. The prices are set by the council and are a daytime and nighttime starting price which all metered PHC ( all 5's, all 7's ) have as well, we cannot decide to up our prices whenever it gets really busy like after a rugby match or busy times during the festival.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/5112496/uber-charge-149-for-a-10-mile-trip-after-price-surge-because-of-snow/

[J-C]

Ooft, way below the belt mate, you are better than that JC, play the baw not the man 👍

Probably right, typed before engaging the brain, can you delete yours too ta.

[MSK]

Probably right, typed before engaging the brain, can you delete yours too ta.Done mate 👍

[J-C]

Done mate 👍


:aok:

[calumhibee1]

Look at his post again, he said taxi go up in price when it's busier, nonsense. The prices are set by the council and are a daytime and nighttime starting price which all metered PHC ( all 5's, all 7's ) have as well, we cannot decide to up our prices whenever it gets really busy like after a rugby match or busy times during the festival.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/5112496/uber-charge-149-for-a-10-mile-trip-after-price-surge-because-of-snow/

I’ve already said that I maybe worded it poorly. Point still stands though, taxis increase their prices at certain times, just like Uber do. It’s just on a more fixed, advertised basis. You’ve ignored numerous posts from me where I’ve acknowledged they can’t just do it as and when they feel like it so I’m not sure what your point is there.

Without knowing for certain what the logic is for the pricing increases and the time of them I’m presuming it’s because certain times are busier and/or less desirable to work (such as Christmas). If that’s not the case then maybe you can tell me what the logic behind the different tariffs is? And you could maybe even do it like an adult without pathetic personal insults.

[Cataplana]

I’ve already said that I maybe worded it poorly. Point still stands though, taxis increase their prices at certain times, just like Uber do. It’s just on a more fixed, advertised basis. You’ve ignored numerous posts from me where I’ve acknowledged they can’t just do it as and when they feel like it so I’m not sure what your point is there.

Without knowing for certain what the logic is for the pricing increases and the time of them I’m presuming it’s because certain times are busier and/or less desirable to work (such as Christmas). If that’s not the case then maybe you can tell me what the logic behind the different tariffs is? And you could maybe even do it without pathetic personal insults.

People are incentivised to work anti social hours by a higher tariff. It's much the same as many other industries in that way.

[calumhibee1]

People are incentivised to work anti social hours by a higher tariff. It's much the same as many other industries in that way.

I don’t have an issue with the fact there’s tariffs btw. It makes sense to me to have them. I also don’t have an issue with Uber’s surge set up.

[Cataplana]

I don’t have an issue with the fact there’s tariffs btw. It makes sense to me to have them. I also don’t have an issue with Uber’s surge set up.

Neither do I. It's fair enough, and now I know a bit more about Uber, I might consider them.

If using a taxi meter service though, I'll put my trust in someone who knows the best route, before an unskilled driver that doesn't know the city.

PHC discounts tend to get eaten up by the crap touted tgeyr drivers take.

[calumhibee1]

Neither do I. It's fair enough, and now I know a bit more about Uber, I might consider them.

If using a taxi meter service though, I'll put my trust in someone who knows the best route, before an unskilled driver that doesn't know the city.

PHC discounts tend to get eaten up by the crap touted tgeyr drivers take.

I presume Beep Beep is a PHC?

[Cataplana]

I presume Beep Beep is a PHC?

I think it's an app driven service like Uber.

[calumhibee1]

I think it's an app driven service like Uber.

:aok:

[J-C]

I presume Beep Beep is a PHC?

It's all the 7's, they already have large signs on the west stand.

My point was also taxis do not raise prices willy nilly like Uber do just because it's busy.

[lord bunberry]

It's all the 7's, they already have large signs on the west stand.

My point was also taxis do not raise prices willy nilly like Uber do just because it's busy.
:agree: The taxi tariff has nothing to do with how busy it is, it’s solely based on what the council thinks is appropriate for working at any given time. Most people who work nights will be paid more, and people who work on Christmas Day or New Years Day will be paid extra, that’s exactly how it is in the taxis.

[SeanWilson]

It's all the 7's, they already have large signs on the west stand.

My point was also taxis do not raise prices willy nilly like Uber do just because it's busy.

Mate, it's pointless. Like it or not, there's options for folk now and trying to justify why people should use a black over a PHC just alienates further.

[Since90+2]

Uber does surge at times but it's cheaper 9 times out of 10 than a taxi. I know a few taxi drivers and they're good honest working people but I do fear it's a trade that will ultimately be squeezed so much Uber it won't be a viable trade for people within a few years.

[calumhibee1]

Uber does surge at times but it's cheaper 9 times out of 10 than a taxi. I know a few taxi drivers and they're good honest working people but I do fear it's a trade that will ultimately be squeezed so much Uber it won't be a viable trade for people within a few years.

We’ll see. Hopefully that doesn’t happen and they can co exist. As it stands just now, it would seem from what LB said earlier in the thread that use of black cabs is on the up.

[lord bunberry]

We’ll see. Hopefully that doesn’t happen and they can co exist. As it stands just now, it would seem from what LB said earlier in the thread that use of black cabs is on the up.
I’m just heading out to work now, hopefully use is on the up tonight :greengrin

[Hibbyradge]

So the driver goes say 2 miles, then realises the road is closed and readjust to ho another way, in the mean time your charged more because Uber charges on distance covered. Meanwhile a cabbie knows what's open and what's closed and goes the correct way from get go.

Uber charges an up front payment for getting you to the destination.

It doesn't increase regardless of how long it takes or which route is taken.

[SeanWilson]

Uber charges an up front payment for getting you to the destination.

It doesn't increase regardless of how long it takes or which route is taken.

Wrong.

[patch1875]

Uber charges an up front payment for getting you to the destination.

It doesn't increase regardless of how long it takes or which route is taken.

Uber charge time and distance like others, if the route is longer you get charged. If a mistake is made you can contact Uber and they adjust the fare.

Only twice in 3 months did it try and send me the wrong way. Down a street near the pleasance that was no exit at the end and the other time was trying to send me up a dirt track to get to mortonhall caravan park.

Sometimes the customer can cause this if they use the exact location instead of filling in the address.

[stoneyburn hibs]

I take the bus.

[J-C]

Uber charges an up front payment for getting you to the destination.

It doesn't increase regardless of how long it takes or which route is taken.


Uber give you an estimate of what the fare will be say between £6.50 - 8.50 all depending on traffic etc.

I had a punter in the taxi one night from Castle St to E Claremont St, came to just under £6.60. He told me he used Uber a couple of times with fare at around £5.50 and the one day he got in one with polish girl driving, fare est. at between £6-7, the route she took was McDonald Rd, Leith Walk, York Pl, the Castle St, traffice due to road works etc was horrendous. After he asked why she was going this way she kept saying she's following the route given to her, he got billed £13 for the fare due to the route she had taken, he complained to Uber and got a refund, he refused to use them again. If the driver has to go a longer route the app works out the distance taken for the job and issues another price, he didn't know that happened.

There's the story from the papers in Dec 2017 when the Uber driver lied to a woman passenger by saying the Forth Br was closed and he had to go via Kincardine Br, the fare she had agreed was suddenly trebled and she was charged £180.

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/uber-user-rages-over-180-fare-for-journey-from-edinburgh-to-fife-1-4643625