Roy Keane

[Since452]

Watched the excellent Off Off The Ball interview last night with Keane and Gary Neville. Really enjoyed it. I know he's a divisive character but was wondering what peoples general opinion of him was? For me he was an inspirational captain and leader as a player and the only pundit down south I'll listen to seriously along with Souness. Don't think Man United would have had the same success without him. Interesting to hear he wants another crack at management. All hypothetical but would anyone take him at Hibs? If we thought Lennon was box office Keane would be off the scale. Patchy managerial record though.

[JimBHibees]

Watched the excellent Off Off The Ball interview last night with Keane and Gary Neville. Really enjoyed it. I know he's a divisive character but was wondering what peoples general opinion of him was? For me he was an inspirational captain and leader as a player and the only pundit down south I'll listen to seriously along with Souness. Interesting to hear he wants another crack at management. All hypothetical but would anyone take him at Hibs? If we thought Lennon was box office Keane would be off the scale. Patchy managerial record though.

Is there a link to that or which channel was it on?

[Sammy7nil]

Don't like him never have never will. I appreciate he wont care :greengrin I wish him no ill will good luck to him.

[Since452]

Is there a link to that or which channel was it on?

https://youtu.be/6_yckmKqazEP not sure if that'll work

[Torto7]

Watched the excellent Off Off The Ball interview last night with Keane and Gary Neville. Really enjoyed it. I know he's a divisive character but was wondering what peoples general opinion of him was? For me he was an inspirational captain and leader as a player and the only pundit down south I'll listen to seriously along with Souness. Interesting to hear he wants another crack at management. All hypothetical but would anyone take him at Hibs? If we thought Lennon was box office Keane would be off the scale. Patchy managerial record though.

I watched it and it was certainly interesting. Keane's very up and down with me. Sometimes I think he's an utter moaning git and a bit of a parody of a hardman then there's other times when I'm nodding my head in agreement and think he's some sort of oracle to the lack of edge/softness throughout football nowadays.

I doubt it would work out at Hibs. His standards would be too much for the comfy world of Scottish football and we would end up with another Collins situation in my opinion.

The facts are that the players have all the power in the game nowadays and Keane when he gets nasty would cause all sorts of issues in the dressing room. Lennon has people skills and a fun side that I'm not sure Keane has and look how that ended.

[Since452]

I watched it and it was certainly interesting. Keane's very up and down with me. Sometimes I think he's an utter moaning git and a bit of a parody of a hardman then there's other times when I'm nodding my head in agreement and think he's some sort of oracle to the lack of edge/softness throughout football nowadays.

I doubt it would work out at Hibs. His standards would be too much for the comfy world of Scottish football and we would end up with another Collins situation in my opinion.

The facts are that the players have all the power in the game nowadays and Keane when he gets nasty would cause all sorts of issues in the dressing room. Lennon has people skills and a fun side that I'm not sure Keane has and look how that ended.

Agree with that

[Barman Stanton]

In his book he says that playing against the Hibs kids (our Golden Generation) was when he knew it was time to retire :agree:

[MWHIBBIES]

Clearly something very wrong in his head. Recent article about the way he spoke to players at Ipswich and his recent comments about Jon Walters are disgraceful really. Needs professional help.

[Pretty Boy]

I just think he comes across as really bitter all the time. His absolute hatred of Alex Ferguson seems to stem from the fact he really thought he was a bit special and different to Fergie. Ultimately though he was treated in the exact same way as every other player who outlived their usefulness at Man Utd and he can't stand that.

He's a total caricature as far as I can see and some of his latest ramblings are verging on him being footballs answer to Katie Hopkins.

[Smartie]

I love him.

Utterly mental but very honest and consistent.

You'd know where you stand with him and if your standards were high enough then you'd have nothing to worry about. If not.........

I just don't know if he'd struggle a bit with players at our level - players who lack his commitment or ability. He'd need to get a tune out of players who he maybe doesn't rate and like John Collins, I think he'd have problems there.

[Weegreenman]

Apparently Jon Walters and Keane had a bit of a face off in Keane’s office when they were both at Ipswich. Sounds like Keane might have shat himself a wee bit when Walters refused to be bullied

[Just_Jimmy]

I've met him a few times and he's a top guy. As most would expect he is in no way like his TV personality in real life. In fact he is pleasant and very genuine.

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[SquashedFrogg]

Clearly something very wrong in his head. Recent article about the way he spoke to players at Ipswich and his recent comments about Jon Walters are disgraceful really. Needs professional help.

Thought his comments were spot on tbh. Particularly when you consider what happened and the context of the interview.

[H18S NX]

I just think he comes across as really bitter all the time. His absolute hatred of Alex Ferguson seems to stem from the fact he really thought he was a bit special and different to Fergie. Ultimately though he was treated in the exact same way as every other player who outlived their usefulness at Man Utd and he can't stand that.

He's a total caricature as far as I can see and some of his latest ramblings are verging on him being footballs answer to Katie Hopkins................Brilliant:top marks

[we are hibs]

A better and more sucessful midfielder than some who are regarded as "premier league legends" despite never winning the premier league. He speaks his mind, whether you like him or not. That interview is quite good but it doesnt help when you have gary neville with his horrendously squeaky laugh every 2 minutes.

[HoboHarry]

I could never get past his tackle on Alfe Inge Haaland. Flat out attempt to maim someone and just despicable. It's one thing to kick an opponent but that crossed every line imaginable....

[Hibernia&Alba]

I could never get past his tackle on Alfe Inge Haaland. Flat out attempt to maim someone and just despicable. It's one thing to kick an opponent but that crossed every line imaginable....

It was outrageous, though that goes back to Keane's injury at Elland Road and Haaland's conduct. No excuse for Keane's response though.

[MWHIBBIES]

Thought his comments were spot on tbh. Particularly when you consider what happened and the context of the interview.

So his comments laughing at/mocking Walters for getting emotional on TV over the death of his brother and his wifes miscarridge are spot on?

I have to disagree.

[calumhibee1]

I just think he comes across as really bitter all the time. His absolute hatred of Alex Ferguson seems to stem from the fact he really thought he was a bit special and different to Fergie. Ultimately though he was treated in the exact same way as every other player who outlived their usefulness at Man Utd and he can't stand that.

He's a total caricature as far as I can see and some of his latest ramblings are verging on him being footballs answer to Katie Hopkins.

Yup.

Can't stand the guy. A miserable ******* and one who I don't doubt for a second isn't half as hard as he thinks he is.

[HoboHarry]

Yup.

Can't stand the guy. A miserable ******* and one who I don't doubt for a second isn't half as hard as he thinks he is.
:agree: It's easy to be a hard man when there's a referee there who you know is going to step in......

[WeeRussell]

Think he’s a knob and wouldn’t want him involved at Hibs. That’s without me actually knowing the man of course.

[SquashedFrogg]

So his comments laughing at/mocking Walters for getting emotional on TV over the death of his brother and his wifes miscarridge are spot on?

I have to disagree.

Clearly I wasn't suggesting those things are anything other tragic. My reference was around the incident at the Ireland training camp. And the subsequent leak to the press. Feel free to add another dimension to it if it makes you feel better though.

[neil7908]

He's a bit all over the place. He'll play the hardman role and then turn victim when he talks about how Ferguson treated him.

It's a pretty hypocritical to think you can tear into players as a manager but constantly moan that you weren't respected as a player.

That said his display in the second leg of the Champions League semi final away to Juve the year they won it was one of the best captains performances I've ever seen.

[SquashedFrogg]

:agree: It's easy to be a hard man when there's a referee there who you know is going to step in......

Which is pretty much every footballer.

[MWHIBBIES]

Clearly I wasn't suggesting those things are anything other tragic. My reference was around the incident at the Ireland training camp. And the subsequent leak to the press. Feel free to add another dimension to it if it makes you feel better though.

I didn't realize that is what you were talking about, I assumed you were talking about the ''recent comments about Jon Walters'' part of my post.

He was ridiculously out of order at the Ireland training ground as well, coming into the changing room screaming at players who had injuries.

[Spudster]

In his book he says that playing against the Hibs kids (our Golden Generation) was when he knew it was time to retire :agree:

I think that's glorifying him abit, it was Jay Shields who marked him out the game that day. Not exactly a poster boy for the Hibs Golden Generation!

[Cataplana]

He's my kind of guy, but I'd hate to work with him.

[Torto7]

Which is pretty much every footballer.

Nowadays. Those guys back then were pretty hard to be fair. Duncan Ferguson and Jaap Stam spring to mind for instance.

Keane never went near big Dunc.

[SouthMoroccoStu]

Next Hibs boss

We’ve not had a psychotic Irish man in a while

[Cataplana]

Next Hibs boss

We’ve not had a psychotic Irish man in a while

Not that many around. 😬

[The Modfather]

A better and more sucessful midfielder than some who are regarded as "premier league legends" despite never winning the premier league. He speaks his mind, whether you like him or not. That interview is quite good but it doesnt help when you have gary neville with his horrendously squeaky laugh every 2 minutes.

Out of interest who are the premier league legends that haven’t won the league you refer to? Gerrard is the obvious one but can’t think of any others.

[The 90+2]

Shat it from Jay Sheilds.

[erin go bragh]

Nowadays. Those guys back then were pretty hard to be fair. Duncan Ferguson and Jaap Stam spring to mind for instance.

Keane never went near big Dunc.

You sure ? DF was recently slating Gerard for only wanting to mix it with the smaller players unlike Keane , who would mix it with anyone.
Sure he tweeted it recently.

[jgl07]

Car crash of a manager with disastrous results.

Emotionally unstable.

Knows bugger all about Scottish Football.

Those are the most positive aspects!

[MWHIBBIES]

Out of interest who are the premier league legends that haven’t won the league you refer to? Gerrard is the obvious one but can’t think of any others.

Le Tissier maybe?

[Torto7]

You sure ? DF was recently slating Gerard for only wanting to mix it with the smaller players unlike Keane , who would mix it with anyone.
Sure he tweeted it recently.

Keane tangled up with plenty of guys but he wouldn't dare go up against Ferguson who was a genuinely scary guy on the pitch and off it.

I do remember Stam and Ferguson clashing though. As well as Ferguson rag dolling Ince.

[theonlywayisup]

My one memory of Roy Keane playing for Celtic was that Mikey Stewart was all over him like a rash when he came to Easter Road with Celtic. It was, without doubt, the most energetic I had seen Stewart in a Hibs top. It made me think that Stewart was out to prove something against someone that he would have known from his Man United days. However, as soon as Keane left the field, it was back to the usual Stewart performance.

Had Stewart been that energetic in all of his games, then he wouldn't have finished his career at places like Easter Road and Tiny.

[WestCoastHibby]

He is very talented at managing facial hair.....and that’s about it

[heretoday]

Keane tangled up with plenty of guys but he wouldn't dare go up against Ferguson who was a genuinely scary guy on the pitch and off it.

I do remember Stam and Ferguson clashing though. As well as Ferguson rag dolling Ince.

Yes. Even Hitler feared Ferguson.

[Since452]

Winning 7 premier league titles and the rest as captain of Man United is incredible. Especially with all the big names that came and went. You can bet your life he was the first name on Fergies team sheet for the vast majority of his time there. His hip was gone by the time he went to Celtic though. Keane is brilliant entertainment on the box but his biggest flaw is he doesn't seem to back down to anyone wheather he's right or wrong. Everything seems to have to be a battle.

[stu in nottingham]

Was watching his various movements at Forest not too long ago. He took some time in agreeing to join Martin O'Neil as his assistant and was then out of the door leaving, after an even shorter period at the City Ground than Martin without any reasonable explanation why.

I don't see a scintillating future career in management for Roy Keane and I think that will be recognised generally in English football. He has some excellent qualities but is sadly lacking in others.

As for hard, well yes, on the pitch most definitely, He was decked by Brian Clough in the Nottingham Forest dressing room by Brian Clough though, 'I only ever hit Roy Keane the once. He got up so I couldn't have hit him very hard'. :)

[Deansy]

Never liked Keane but after his behaviour when walking out on his country at the 2002 WC that quickly changed to despising him - he's just an arrogant prick !

[JimBHibees]

Was watching his various movements at Forest not too long ago. He took some time in agreeing to join Martin O'Neil as his assistant and was then out of the door leaving, after an even shorter period at the City Ground than Martin without any reasonable explanation why.

I don't see a scintillating future career in management for Roy Keane and I think that will be recognised generally in English football. He has some excellent qualities but is sadly lacking in others.

As for hard, well yes, on the pitch most definitely, He was decked by Brian Clough in the Nottingham Forest dressing room by Brian Clough though, 'I only ever hit Roy Keane the once. He got up so I couldn't have hit him very hard'. :)

Keane mentioned the Clough incident recently indicating something along the lines of it made him respect Clough even more than he did.

[Nicho87]

Imo not any characters like him in the game now. Sad really

[calumhibee1]

Imo not any characters like him in the game now. Sad really

Can’t say personally I’m disappointed in that.

[Posh Swanny]

It was outrageous, though that goes back to Keane's injury at Elland Road and Haaland's conduct. No excuse for Keane's response though.

Keane loves to play the victim on that one despite the fact that incident was also a result of his own shocking challenge! Haaland had a word while Keane was injured on the ground - "you tried to take me out, but look who got injured, tee-hee" probably, or words to that effect.

[WeeRussell]

Out of interest who are the premier league legends that haven’t won the league you refer to? Gerrard is the obvious one but can’t think of any others.

John McGinn

[Hibeesmad]

Out of interest who are the premier league legends that haven’t won the league you refer to? Gerrard is the obvious one but can’t think of any others.

Gary Speed.

Also although I don't think he was in the Premier League long enough to be considered a legend, Luka Modric is the only midfielder to have played in the Premier League to win the Ballon d'Or

[Anthony Soprano]

Great player but an absolute dingle of a man, wouldn't want him anywhere near the club tbh

[MWHIBBIES]

Imo not any characters like him in the game now. Sad really

Na, there are still plenty of footballers who are absolute bellends any chance they get. Not many who try to end careers on purpose, though.

[we are hibs]

Imo not any characters like him in the game now. Sad really

Too many people want to watch boring robots these days. Boring football for boring people

[Carheenlea]

My one memory of Roy Keane playing for Celtic was that Mikey Stewart was all over him like a rash when he came to Easter Road with Celtic. It was, without doubt, the most energetic I had seen Stewart in a Hibs top. It made me think that Stewart was out to prove something against someone that he would have known from his Man United days. However, as soon as Keane left the field, it was back to the usual Stewart performance.

Had Stewart been that energetic in all of his games, then he wouldn't have finished his career at places like Easter Road and Tiny.

Are Michael Stewart and Roy Keane not pretty good friends? Pretty sure they socialised together when Keane was at Celtic.

[Northernhibee]

Ended Haaland’s career because he can’t handle a little scrutiny. **** of the highest order.

[calumhibee1]

Too many people want to watch boring robots these days. Boring football for boring people

Not at all. Vast majority of us enjoyed Cummings and his antics. Keane is just a ****bag.

[Jones28]

He’s a ****ing throbber.

[Pretty Boy]

Ended Haaland’s career because he can’t handle a little scrutiny. **** of the highest order.

Keane didn't end Haaland's career. I don't like him but that's a myth that seems to be accepted as fact now.

Keane tackled Haaland and connected with his right knee. Haaland played the rest of that match, played an international game midweek then played for Man City the following week. He retired at the end of the following season because of an ongoing problem with his left knee.

[Sean1875]

Might be an arse of a guy but we could do with a Roy Keane in our team just now :stirrer:

[ChooseLife]

I think that's glorifying him abit, it was Jay Shields who marked him out the game that day. Not exactly a poster boy for the Hibs Golden Generation!

He mentioned Broony and KT specifically in his book, I think he said something about realising he had underestimated the quality of the league and it was that game that woke him up.

[Barman Stanton]

He mentioned Broony and KT specifically in his book, I think he said something about realising he had underestimated the quality of the league and it was that game that woke him up.

Here is the quote. Pretty complimentary to Hibs.

"We played Hibernian a few weeks later, away at Easter Road, and I remember feeling a bit caught out. I'd done my homework on Rangers but I didn't know much about Hibs. I remember thinking, '**** it, this is hard.' They had a couple of lads in the middle of the park. Kevin Thomson was one of them; he went on to Rangers and Middlesbrough. They were both excellent. We won, but it was a bit of a shock. I thought I should have been dominating these two, or any Hibs players. But my mind was lying, they had very good players."

[The 90+2]

Here is the quote. Pretty complimentary to Hibs.

"We played Hibernian a few weeks later, away at Easter Road, and I remember feeling a bit caught out. I'd done my homework on Rangers but I didn't know much about Hibs. I remember thinking, '**** it, this is hard.' They had a couple of lads in the middle of the park. Kevin Thomson was one of them; he went on to Rangers and Middlesbrough. They were both excellent. We won, but it was a bit of a shock. I thought I should have been dominating these two, or any Hibs players. But my mind was lying, they had very good players."

The game Jay Sheilds done a number on Keane was 1-1 at Celtic Park. Fletch scores for us.

[easty]

Keane loves to play the victim on that one despite the fact that incident was also a result of his own shocking challenge! Haaland had a word while Keane was injured on the ground - "you tried to take me out, but look who got injured, tee-hee" probably, or words to that effect.

It was barely a "shocking challenge" that saw Keane end up getting injured himself. There was nothing in it at all.

[easty]

Gary Speed.

Also although I don't think he was in the Premier League long enough to be considered a legend, Luka Modric is the only midfielder to have played in the Premier League to win the Ballon d'Or

What makes Gary Speed an EPL legend? He was good...but I don't think of him as legendary. I would maybe say Le Tissier...possibly Zola (don't think he won the league, did he?)

[The 90+2]

Carragher never won the league. Torres, Ferdinand and Ginola would be in the with Le Tiss as would Keane and Fowler.

[Hibeesmad]

What makes Gary Speed an EPL legend? He was good...but I don't think of him as legendary. I would maybe say Le Tissier...possibly Zola (don't think he won the league, did he?)

Played over 500 games in the Premier League, was named in one of the first PFA team of the year back in 1993. Played in the Champions League with Leeds and Newcastle, and won Everton's player of the year during his time there. He was also a very good player and captain. Premier League legend in my eyes who hadn't won the league.

[Posh Swanny]

It was barely a "shocking challenge" that saw Keane end up getting injured himself. There was nothing in it at all.

Fair enough actually - I just watched it back on YouTube and I must have made it worse in my head because I don't like him!

[easty]

Played over 500 games in the Premier League, was named in one of the first PFA team of the year back in 1993. Played in the Champions League with Leeds and Newcastle, and won Everton's player of the year during his time there. He was also a very good player and captain. Premier League legend in my eyes who hadn't won the league.

I'd have Speed up along someone like Gareth Barry (who I know did win a Premier League). Good solid reliable players for a long time, but legendary? Not for me.

[Barman Stanton]

This forum really has an obsession with what makes someone a legend :faf:

[lyonhibs]

An absolute throbber of a man. A flat track bully who belongs in the stone age. I took great delight in heartily abusing him when he got absolutely tucked up nicely by the golden generation midfield at ER. Gave him the absolute runaround.