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basehibby
09-09-2019, 07:02 AM
Arguably our weakest areas since the start of the season have been midfield - where we have looked unbalanced - and full back - where we have been beset by injuries. I'll admit that I know little about either player but Hallberg looks like he might be able to offer something different to the midfield and Naismith provides more experienced specialist cover at fullback than did Mackie who has departed on loan.

A couple of players can be enough to turn a team around if they're the right players - so is there cause for optimism that Hallberg and Naismith could provide the necessary impetus to turn around our season??? (Nae pressure Melker and Jason :wink:)

H18 SFR
09-09-2019, 07:03 AM
We need a sitting midfielder. As you've said though, hopefully offers something alternative.

The Count
09-09-2019, 07:17 AM
Watching Hibs this season we are too weak in midfield and lack a ball winner.As bad as Hearts are there is a danger that they will boss us in midfield in a couple of weeks.We all know how Levein sets up his anti football teams.I hope i am wrong.

Keith_M
09-09-2019, 07:21 AM
We#ll just have to wait and see, I suppose.

calumhibee1
09-09-2019, 07:28 AM
Watching Hibs this season we are too weak in midfield and lack a ball winner.As bad as Hearts are there is a danger that they will boss us in midfield in a couple of weeks.We all know how Levein sets up his anti football teams.I hope i am wrong.

They might well boss us in midfield. Although we might boss then. Let’s remember that their midfield in their last game against Hamilton was Andy Irving, Glenn Whelan, Sean Clare, Mulraney and somebody Henderson. By all accounts they were chasing shadows. I can’t say I’m that worried about them bossing us.

Scouse Hibee
09-09-2019, 07:29 AM
The manager thinks they can.

The_Horde
09-09-2019, 07:53 AM
The manager thinks they can.

The manager thought going 2 up front with ten men against Rangers was a good idea.

Onceinawhile
09-09-2019, 07:55 AM
A lot of the goals we've conceded have come from the right back position. Hopefully having a player there who isn't lacking in pace, or likely to get injured at some point during the game, is hopefully a huge step forward towards settling the defence.

Carheenlea
09-09-2019, 08:35 AM
They’ll have to is the simple answer. What we have otherwise just isn’t working.

calumhibee1
09-09-2019, 08:41 AM
They’ll have to is the simple answer. What we have otherwise just isn’t working.

Yup. Hallberg is an unknown so he’s a wait and see. From what people say about Naismith though he sounds like he’ll most definitely be an improvement, even if it’s just because he can stay fit and SDG can’t.

Since452
09-09-2019, 09:51 AM
Don't know much about Hallberg other than a YouTube promotional video which could make my granny look good but having seen Naismith in the flesh i know he's a very good player and one I'd have been delighted to sign from St Mirren or County

Franck Stanton
09-09-2019, 10:23 AM
Let's face it, they can't be any worse than what we have

Scouse Hibee
09-09-2019, 10:38 AM
The manager thought going 2 up front with ten men against Rangers was a good idea.

Exactly!

The 90+2
09-09-2019, 11:27 AM
Hope so. Delighted we have sorted RB though as it’s been a weak link over the past 10 months. Swedish dude could end up brilliant or pap, let’s hope he hits the ground running.

Hibiza
09-09-2019, 11:38 AM
Hope it's hallberg for mallan.

IWasThere2016
09-09-2019, 11:45 AM
Naismith is a very good player - no question.

I think Hallberg will replace Mallan - who has been invisible this season..

Diclonius
09-09-2019, 11:56 AM
A midfield two of Vela and Hallberg MIGHT cut it.

Naismith will more than likely be our first choice RB this season.

Borderhibbie76
09-09-2019, 01:17 PM
Hope it's hallberg for mallan.It better be

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MrRobot
09-09-2019, 01:48 PM
Hallberg, from his video, seems to be more of an attacking midfielder.

Can see Mallan being dropped and rightly so, he's been utter guff this season so far.

GreenNWhiteArmy
09-09-2019, 02:22 PM
Hopefully Hallberg will bring the range of passing, energy and forward drive we've missed since Mcginn

JXM73
09-09-2019, 02:58 PM
We already have the players to beat the likes of st johnstone n motherwell, these two lads hopefully strengthen that. But if you have a manager who can't get the engine running then having better players means hee haw.

CMurdoch
09-09-2019, 05:21 PM
Naismith will shore up right back position but the big question is whether Hallberg can stiffen up and give legs to our struggling midfield.
I think he has to replace Mallan but like most on here I don't know much about Hallberg's style of play.

Hermit Crab
09-09-2019, 05:58 PM
I fully expect Hallberg to start ahead of the ineffective Mallan on Saturday.

Hermit Crab
09-09-2019, 05:59 PM
We could do worse than throwing Naismith in as well, is he any good going forward as well?

heretoday
09-09-2019, 08:40 PM
Just bung them on. They can't be worse.

Feed McGraw
09-09-2019, 08:49 PM
Don`t think there`s any doubt barring injury they`ll both be playing.

thegaffer12
09-09-2019, 08:57 PM
I genuinely believe Naismith will make a huge difference to this squad - pace and aggression

MacGruber
10-09-2019, 05:51 AM
Hope it's hallberg for mallan.

Me too, and it should be.

I'm worried that Heckingbottom sees it as Hallberg for Allan though.

Marciano
Naismith
Porteous
Hanlon
Stevenson
Middleton
Hallberg
Vela
Allan
Horgan
Kamberi

This for me just now. Boyle starts when fit. Doidge starts when the game calls for 2 up - in for Middleton or Horgan depending on form. Porteous and Hallberg will only get match fit with matches.

A fully fit Gray and MacGreor gives a selection headache.

Not writing off Jackson or James just yet but they will have to show something to get in.

Mallan and Slivka both have to up their games and harsh on Whittaker who has been decent this season.

Also, I think Doidge can come good but Shaw at least impacted the game as a sub so he needs to start scoring to keep his place in the pecking order.

Can't think of anyone else outwith the youth players.

All of course assuming Naismith and Hallberg improve the starting 11.

Since452
10-09-2019, 08:07 AM
Really hope we've unearthed a gem in Hallberg. We just need someone in the middle to make everything click.

SunshineOnLeith
10-09-2019, 04:36 PM
Have either of them done their badges? Could probably improve us as manager(s).

Northernhibee
10-09-2019, 04:45 PM
We could even see the signing of Naismith push Whittaker into a DM role. I remember against Aberdeen at Pittodrie he was absoutely brilliant in that role, and maybe an experienced head sitting in midfield may give us the stability we need.

PH91
10-09-2019, 05:05 PM
Me too, and it should be.

I'm worried that Heckingbottom sees it as Hallberg for Allan though.

Marciano
Naismith
Porteous
Hanlon
Stevenson
Middleton
Hallberg
Vela
Allan
Horgan
Kamberi

This for me just now. Boyle starts when fit. Doidge starts when the game calls for 2 up - in for Middleton or Horgan depending on form. Porteous and Hallberg will only get match fit with matches.

A fully fit Gray and MacGreor gives a selection headache.

Not writing off Jackson or James just yet but they will have to show something to get in.

Mallan and Slivka both have to up their games and harsh on Whittaker who has been decent this season.

Also, I think Doidge can come good but Shaw at least impacted the game as a sub so he needs to start scoring to keep his place in the pecking order.

Can't think of anyone else outwith the youth players.

All of course assuming Naismith and Hallberg improve the starting 11.

I agree with the midfield 3.

Even hallberg for allan wouldnt be terrible if mallan moved into the allan role, although it wouldnt go down well with the fans.

If he puts hallberg in alongside mallan/allan or slivka/allan i will either explode or just give up. Not sure which.

MWHIBBIES
10-09-2019, 05:18 PM
Me too, and it should be.

I'm worried that Heckingbottom sees it as Hallberg for Allan though.

Marciano
Naismith
Porteous
Hanlon
Stevenson
Middleton
Hallberg
Vela
Allan
Horgan
Kamberi

This for me just now. Boyle starts when fit. Doidge starts when the game calls for 2 up - in for Middleton or Horgan depending on form. Porteous and Hallberg will only get match fit with matches.

A fully fit Gray and MacGreor gives a selection headache.

Not writing off Jackson or James just yet but they will have to show something to get in.

Mallan and Slivka both have to up their games and harsh on Whittaker who has been decent this season.

Also, I think Doidge can come good but Shaw at least impacted the game as a sub so he needs to start scoring to keep his place in the pecking order.

Can't think of anyone else outwith the youth players.

All of course assuming Naismith and Hallberg improve the starting 11.

What has happened to suggest Allan won't be first choice this season?

MacGruber
10-09-2019, 06:09 PM
What has happened to suggest Allan won't be first choice this season?

Nothing really. Just a feeling, not rational.

Probably comes somewhere from a mix of Allan not being his own signing, him signing centre mids, pushing Allan right before, general vibe I took with his Allan comments after the substitution and wondering if he is feeling upstaged a bit. Hopefully comes to nothing and Allan stays the focal point

inglisavhibs
10-09-2019, 08:06 PM
Arguably our weakest areas since the start of the season have been midfield - where we have looked unbalanced - and full back - where we have been beset by injuries. I'll admit that I know little about either player but Hallberg looks like he might be able to offer something different to the midfield and Naismith provides more experienced specialist cover at fullback than did Mackie who has departed on loan.

A couple of players can be enough to turn a team around if they're the right players - so is there cause for optimism that Hallberg and Naismith could provide the necessary impetus to turn around our season??? (Nae pressure Melker and Jason :wink:)
Add Porteous and Fraser Murray and they just might. More energy and will to win.

DavidDavidGray
10-09-2019, 08:47 PM
Everyone’s dropping Mallan for Hallberg but honestly I’d take Vela out the team before Mallan. Mallans been nowhere near good enough, but honestly Vela has been so, so brutal. Gives a foul away or gets skinned every single challenge he tries to make. Would start with a midfield 3 of Hallberg, Allan and probably Whittaker because at least he’s winning tackles and has the ability for a good pass, he just doesn’t have the pace to match a winger but in midfield I reckon he would be a better job than the rest of our centre mids.

matty_f
12-09-2019, 12:34 PM
Everyone’s dropping Mallan for Hallberg but honestly I’d take Vela out the team before Mallan. Mallans been nowhere near good enough, but honestly Vela has been so, so brutal. Gives a foul away or gets skinned every single challenge he tries to make. Would start with a midfield 3 of Hallberg, Allan and probably Whittaker because at least he’s winning tackles and has the ability for a good pass, he just doesn’t have the pace to match a winger but in midfield I reckon he would be a better job than the rest of our centre mids.

With what we have available, I'd rather have Whittaker in a central midfield role than at right back, but I'd rather have a natural centre mid in there. Vela hasn't been great but I think he'll end up a good signing for us.