Hibs V Slavia Praha

[Brightside]

Just a reminder that Hibs are playing in the champions league on Wed night at Easter Rd. Tickets are very reasonable and it would be great to sell out the West for them if we could. 👍

[franks]

Ticket secured and looking forward to it.

[flash]

Hibs in the Champions League. If only.

[Bright_Hibee]

Can't make it, but good luck to them. They deserve a big crowd!

[hfc rd]

Game is live on BBC Alba

[Brightside]

Game is live on BBC Alba

Yep - much better to watch it in person. :wink:

[Keith_M]

Hibs are playing in the Champions League????


:confused:

[dangermouse]

I was planning to go but unfortunately something has come up and I can no longer go. Was at the last one v Bayern. Hopefully catch it on TV.

[McD]

Will there be pay at the gate?

Hoping to make it but things up in the air during the day

[wallpaperman]

Will there be pay at the gate?

Hoping to make it but things up in the air during the day

I am sure there will be a kiosk open, like there was at the Scotland ladies game.

[Eyrie]

Midweek games aren't practical for me, otherwise I'd be tempted to go.

[AZhibee]

Exited game in 36’ with 2-0 lead per FotMob injured?

[Tyler Durden]

Do Hibs have much chance of a result in this game?

[Brightside]

Do Hibs have much chance of a result in this game?

Slavia are 6th seeds. Very physical and athletic team. Hibs will get chances but need to take them.

[Brightside]

Ticket sales looking very disappointing. Hopefully they will get a lot of walk ups.

[hfc rd]

Do Hibs have much chance of a result in this game?


Probably not but shocks can happen. Slavia are ranked 9th in the UEFA women’s club rankings. They’ve reached the CL 1/4 finals 3 out of the last 4 years.

It’ll be a great experience and learning curve for our girls playing against this level of opposition.

[hfc rd]

Exited game in 36’ with 2-0 lead per FotMob injured?

😐

What does this mean?

[Fife-Hibee]

Exited game in 36’ with 2-0 lead per FotMob injured?

😂

[calumhibee1]

😐

What does this mean?

I think it’s meant for the Galantes thread. He was substituted in the first half the other day.

[hibsbollah]

Anyone know when the return leg is? By a weird twist of fate I'll be in Prague in a fortnight! I might go.

[MSK]

Anyone know when the return leg is? By a weird twist of fate I'll be in Prague in a fortnight! I might go.25th Sept I think 👍

[Power]

Anyone know when the return leg is? By a weird twist of fate I'll be in Prague in a fortnight! I might go.

Just back from my Stag do there. Some place. Wish It was a few weeks later as taking in the Cabbage there would’ve been barry.

Looking forward to tonight ✅

[Pretty Boy]

Just picked up a couple of tickets for tonight.

Looking forward to it. Champions League football at ER.

[Hibs Fraggle]

That's three tickets for the night sorted, come on Hibs - Champions league glory awaits (Never ever thought I'd say that)

[The 90+2]

Is the Glasgow city match online or on tv anywhere?

[Saturday Boy]

Is the Glasgow city match online or on tv anywhere?

I hope not 😳

The Hibs game is on Alba for those who can’t get along.

[jgl07]

is the glasgow city match online or on tv anywhere?

ltgcf

[BILLYHIBS]

Chertanovo 0 v 1 Glasgow City

[mutley]

Currently stuffing my face on the Mash Tun, finish my pint then heading to ER.

Mon the Hibs Ladies


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[The 90+2]

ltgcf

:greengrin had them with hibs double.

[Pretty Boy]

1-0 Hibs after 2 minutes.

[Jim44]

1-0 Hibs

[The Harp]

Great start for the girls :)

[HibeeMackenzie]

If you could give Martin Boyle his wife’s crossing ability you’d have yourself some winger

[Jones28]

Much prefer the cameras being in the east for some reason.

[bingo70]

Did they play the champions league music before the game?

[Pretty Boy]

Did they play the champions league music before the game?

Nope, it was some disco number.

[Pretty Boy]

Slavia look very slick going forward but they look vulnerable at the back. Keep it tight and we have a decent chance to score again here.

[Nicho87]

Is it just me but camera in the east stand is better

[Jones28]

Just a couple of rash decisions have seen us lose the ballin good areas, cooler heads will see them home 👍🏻

[hfc rd]

That didn’t look offside to me

[Pretty Boy]

1-1.

Been coming last few minutes.

[One Day Soon]

SDG and Heck both there watching this. Bugger.

[Pretty Boy]

1-2.

[hfc rd]

Very poor goal to concede there

[Pretty Boy]

1-3. Absolute screamer Tbf.

Hibs competed Well for 35 minutes but the difference in both fitness and ability is starting to show.

[Scorrie]

Heck out

[Jim44]

1-3. Absolute screamer Tbf.

Hibs competed Well for 35 minutes but the difference in both fitness and ability is starting to show.

Unfortunately they’re out of their depth here. Decent performance but making too many mistakes.

[cabbageandribs1875]

too much space, tie over

[Golden Bear]

Without naming names, there's 2 Hibs players out there who are totally out of their depth, both in terms of skill and fitness.

[Stuart93]

Without naming names, there's 2 Hibs players out there who are totally out of their depth, both in terms of skill and fitness.

Why can’t you name names? Would do if it was the guys team no?

[theonlywayisup]

Without naming names, there's 2 Hibs players out there who are totally out of their depth, both in terms of skill and fitness.

Newell:grr:

Doidge :grr:




















.........only joking!

:cb

[hfc rd]

Done not too bad in the first 10 mins but Slavia have stepped it up a couple of gears which we are struggling to match.

[Golden Bear]

Why can’t you name names? Would do if it was the guys team no?

Nope I wouldn't. I've never been a fan of these post match threads where individuals players are named and shamed if they have a poor game.

[theonlywayisup]

Done not too bad in the first 10 mins but Slavia have stepped it up a couple of gears which we are struggling to match.

:grr:left one pub at 1-0 Hibs, by the time I got to the next it was 1-3.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

This could end up being a rout, the lassies look knackered already.

[hfc rd]

:grr:left one pub at 1-0 Hibs, by the time I got to the next it was 1-3.


Stuck a double on Hibs & Glasgow City earlier today just in case if we were to pull off a major shock.

Safe to say that most likely isn’t going to happen now.

[Pretty Boy]

It's a part time team against a full time one. It's playing out pretty much as I expected, probably not too dissimilar to if our mens team played their Slavia Prague counterparts.

They look a team of big athletic women, some of our players look like young lassies.

[theonlywayisup]

Loads of spaces in the Famous Five Lower

Signing section very quiet

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

It's a part time team against a full time one. It's playing out pretty much as I expected, probably not too dissimilar to if our mens team played their Slavia Prague counterparts.

They look a team of big athletic women, some of our players look like young lassies.

Quite happy with just under 6/5 ht-ft on Betfair.

[brianmc]

Nice to see a Hibs team able to take, and keep possession from, their throw ins 👍

[Jones28]

4-1, possession given away for the goal.

[cabbageandribs1875]

shame, that was very slack from siobhan hunter

[Jones28]

Unlucky from Gallagher, anywhere else and it’s a goal.

[Jones28]

Should be a Hibs penalty

[Pretty Boy]

Better from Hibs this half. Created a few half chances and not really allowed them too many chances.

Ref has been murder. Seems that doesn't change regardless of gender.

[cabbageandribs1875]

should have been a penalty, baffling the referee didn't see it

[SouthMoroccoStu]

should have been a penalty, baffling the referee didn't see it

Yet the Scottish women had a good few decisions go against them like that in the World Cup

[Jones28]

Cornett maybe lucky not to see red there? Out of control, feet off the ground.

[Pretty Boy]

1287 given as the attendance.

[cabbageandribs1875]

so, where do hibs ladies go now, now that sevco have started the ball rolling in trying to buy a team to win success, they just can't do things the fair way eh


the ****s

[The Harp]

Great effort from the Hibs ladies against a quality side which operate at a different level completely.

[surreyhibbie]

They gave it a good go, just outplayed on the night.

Well done ladies...

[Since452]

Hecky out

[WestCoastHibby]

Hecky out

😂

[Brightside]

A huge difference between a super fit full time team and an amateur team unfortunately. Prague miles ahead simply due to movement and pace. Good game to watch though.

[southsider]

They gave it a good go, just outplayed on the night.

Well done ladies...

Wish we could find a sponcer to pay wages to the girls. Then they could be full time pro players and our team would progress. They seem a great bunch but to loose players to Bristol City makes my blood boil. Well done girls xx

[Power]

Great experience and exposure for the girls.

Easter Road looked barry and majestic tae.

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[Forza Fred]

By most accounts, they stood up well to the challenge from one of Europe’s established women’s teams, and while they will be disappointed with the final result, should be proud of what they have achieved.

The difference between full time professional athletes, and enthusiastic, albeit skilful and committed part timers was always going to be a factor.

Proud of the girls, and fervently wish that they will continue to be a force in Scottish women’s football, and that one day, they find the resources to enable them to regularly compete against much better resourced European clubs.

[Barman Stanton]

Wish we could find a sponcer to pay wages to the girls. Then they could be full time pro players and our team would progress. They seem a great bunch but to loose players to Bristol City makes my blood boil. Well done girls xx

Would rather they find a sponsor for our strip first! I’m all for supporting the woman’s team, but as long as it doesn’t take finances or time away from the men’s team.

[Brightside]

Would rather they find a sponsor for our strip first! I’m all for supporting the woman’s team, but as long as it doesn’t take finances or time away from the men’s team.

This isn't the thread your looking for......

[Barman Stanton]

This isn't the thread your looking for......

Why? Its on the Hibs Forum main page. Im a Hibs fan. Like I say, I totally support the womans team. But not at the cost of any resource or financial loss to the mens team.

[Brightside]

Why? Its on the Hibs Forum main page. Im a Hibs fan. Like I say, I totally support the womans team. But not at the cost of any resource or financial loss to the mens team.

And the same point is raised every time there is a thread on the Woman's team. You've nothing to worry about. Hibs couldn't put any less into the womens team if they tried. Hence why we continue to lose all the players and will be lucky to be top 3 next season. The Women's team has about the same priority as the over 45s walking football.

[Barman Stanton]

And the same point is raised every time there is a thread on the Woman's team. You've nothing to worry about. Hibs couldn't put any less into the womens team if they tried. Hence why we continue to lose all the players and will be lucky to be top 3 next season. The Women's team has about the same priority as the over 45s walking football.

Don't quite understand why your being so defensive about it. Someone said they wished we could find a sponser to pay the players and I said as long as at no cost to the mens teams. Seems reasonable to me :dunno:

You sound like you would be happy for us to use some of the mens budget on the womans team?

[Brightside]

Don't quite understand why your being so defensive about it. Someone said they wished we could find a sponser to pay the players and I said as long as at no cost to the mens teams. Seems reasonable to me :dunno:

You sound like you would be happy for us to use some of the mens budget on the womans team?

You mean like other clubs are? Yes I would. But it won't ever happen under the current regime, and I'm sure the majority of Hibs fans will be very happy with that.

Celtic/Rangers/Hearts have all directed dedicated funding to the female side of their clubs. All three will see huge improvement over the next few years and will go past Hibs. Perhaps Ron will take an interest and provide separate funding but whilst the female side of the club is run by the foundation it will not develop and improve. I'm pretty sure i could find £100k worth of savings at Hibs in order to facilitate basic contracts for the best players in the country. But i understand a new tannoy system is much more important. :wink:

[Barman Stanton]

You mean like other clubs are? Yes I would. But it won't ever happen under the current regime, and I'm sure the majority of Hibs fans will be very happy with that.

Celtic/Rangers/Hearts have all directed dedicated funding to the female side of their clubs. All three will see huge improvement over the next few years and will go past Hibs. Perhaps Ron will take an interest and provide separate funding but whilst the female side of the club is run by the foundation it will not develop and improve. I'm pretty sure i could find £100k worth of savings at Hibs in order to facilitate basic contracts for the best players in the country. But i understand a new tannoy system is much more important. :wink:

I would rather we didnt provide any funding for them either Im afraid. I want Hibs to win at any level and would support them at tiddlywinks if there was a team. But would rather any budget and resource went towards making the main Hibs team better.

Can I ask, what is the womens teams average crowd? Is there really enough fanbase to even justify spending money on it?

[Brightside]

I would rather we didnt provide any funding for them either Im afraid. I want Hibs to win at any level and would support them at tiddlywinks if there was a team. But would rather any budget and resource went towards making the main Hibs team better.

Can I ask, what is the womens teams average crowd? Is there really enough fanbase to even justify spending money on it?

If funding was only going to be based on current crowds Hibs men would never have over invested when we went down and wouldn’t have won the Scottish cup which in turn created record crowds. The crowds come with success unfortunately. More and more people are watching the women’s game and there was a healthy crowd at the recent Scotland game at Easter rd. it’s the right time to invest and that’s why other clubs are doing it.

[The Modfather]

You mean like other clubs are? Yes I would. But it won't ever happen under the current regime, and I'm sure the majority of Hibs fans will be very happy with that.

Celtic/Rangers/Hearts have all directed dedicated funding to the female side of their clubs. All three will see huge improvement over the next few years and will go past Hibs. Perhaps Ron will take an interest and provide separate funding but whilst the female side of the club is run by the foundation it will not develop and improve. I'm pretty sure i could find £100k worth of savings at Hibs in order to facilitate basic contracts for the best players in the country. But i understand a new tannoy system is much more important. :wink:

Hibs should add an optional extra to the season tickets for access to both the men’s and woman’s home games. Maybe an extra £10/20 with that extra going directly to the women’s team. Would allow those interested to help the woman’s team without being detrimental to the men’s team.

[Paisley Hibby]

I would rather we didnt provide any funding for them either Im afraid. I want Hibs to win at any level and would support them at tiddlywinks if there was a team. But would rather any budget and resource went towards making the main Hibs team better.

Can I ask, what is the womens teams average crowd? Is there really enough fanbase to even justify spending money on it?
Women's football is going to become huge - just look at what is happening elsewhere (31,000 at Man City last week). Hibs have the chance to be one of the leading clubs in that revolution (just like we were in the early days of European football) but looks like once again we're going to blow it due to lack of imagination and financial courage.

[Barman Stanton]

If funding was only going to be based on current crowds Hibs men would never have over invested when we went down and wouldn’t have won the Scottish cup which in turn created record crowds. The crowds come with success unfortunately. More and more people are watching the women’s game and there was a healthy crowd at the recent Scotland game at Easter rd. it’s the right time to invest and that’s why other clubs are doing it.

Im honestly not being cheeky but how can they have more success? Have they not consistently won cups and leagues over the last decade. I would suggest that if the support is not their when they are hammering Celtic 9-0 in a Cup final then it will never be there.

[Barman Stanton]

Women's football is going to become huge - just look at what is happening elsewhere (31,000 at Man City last week). Hibs have the chance to be one of the leading clubs in that revolution (just like we were in the early days of European football) but looks like once again we're going to blow it due to lack of imagination and financial courage.

Hey each to their own. I disagree that it will be as massive as that in Scotland. And I would just rather we concentrate all our resources in making the mens team as good as it is. Thats not in any way hating on womens football etc (I have seen people get very defensive about this).

[Pretty Boy]

I'm not sure if it's still the case but I know for a fact the ladies were actively seeking their own sponsor not so long ago. They were told that Hibs sponsorship deals didn't allow them to do this. Obviously the fact we don't have a sponsor now maybe changes that. They are in an awkward place because they receive very little from Hibs directly but are also unable, or at least were unable, to go out and source their own alternative funding streams.

It's just another sport in which Scotland is going to be left miles behind in over the next few years. Last night was proof of that, a team who have a lower average attendance than us in the men's game sent over a professional women's team and dispatched us with relative ease. Womens football in England has raced away in the last few years and as it's popularity grows it will do the same elsewhere. I daresay Rangers and Celtic will throw a relative pittance, but considerably more than anyone else, at it and start cleaning up in Scotland in the not too distant future as well.

[Barman Stanton]

Hibs should add an optional extra to the season tickets for access to both the men’s and woman’s home games. Maybe an extra £10/20 with that extra going directly to the women’s team. Would allow those interested to help the woman’s team without being detrimental to the men’s team.

Great idea that. Its possible to want the womans team to do well, but just not at the detriment to the mens teams.

[Brightside]

Im honestly not being cheeky but how can they have more success? Have they not consistently won cups and leagues over the last decade. I would suggest that if the support is not their when they are hammering Celtic 9-0 in a Cup final then it will never be there.

We haven’t won the league in 10 years.

[Brightside]

I'm not sure if it's still the case but I know for a fact the ladies were actively seeking their own sponsor not so long ago. They were told that Hibs sponsorship deals didn't allow them to do this. Obviously the fact we don't have a sponsor now maybe changes that. They are in an awkward place because they receive very little from Hibs directly but are also unable, or at least were unable, to go out and source their own alternative funding streams.

It's just another sport in which Scotland is going to be left miles behind in over the next few years. Last night was proof of that, a team who have a lower average attendance than us in the men's game sent over a professional women's team and dispatched us with relative ease. Womens football in England has raced away in the last few years and as it's popularity grows it will do the same elsewhere. I daresay Rangers and Celtic will throw a relative pittance, but considerably more than anyone else, at it and start cleaning up in Scotland in the not too distant future as well.

Spot on. Since they were moved into the community Foundation they haven’t been allowed to get shirt sponsorship etc and all admin of the sides is centralised. I honestly don’t think it’s helped us. Certainly doesn’t help in the younger groups.

[500miles]

You mean like other clubs are? Yes I would. But it won't ever happen under the current regime, and I'm sure the majority of Hibs fans will be very happy with that.

Celtic/Rangers/Hearts have all directed dedicated funding to the female side of their clubs. All three will see huge improvement over the next few years and will go past Hibs. Perhaps Ron will take an interest and provide separate funding but whilst the female side of the club is run by the foundation it will not develop and improve. I'm pretty sure i could find £100k worth of savings at Hibs in order to facilitate basic contracts for the best players in the country. But i understand a new tannoy system is much more important. :wink:

I'd rather that £100k went to signing Efe.

[Barman Stanton]

We haven’t won the league in 10 years.

Ok my mistake. But it seems they at least reach plenty Cup finals. How many fans are we taking to these cup finals?

[ahibby]

Ok my mistake. But it seems they at least reach plenty Cup finals. How many fans are we taking to these cup finals?

We saw last night primitive football v sophisticated football. Unfortunately somw Hibs girls couldnt cope with even their own primitive game. I suppose thats the difference befween professional and non. With Gasgow City hoing pro and talk of even Hearts going pro Hibs Ladies will likely fall from grace even donesticaly.

[Sammy7nil]

This isn't the thread your looking for......

Totally disagree


You mean like other clubs are? Yes I would. But it won't ever happen under the current regime, and I'm sure the majority of Hibs fans will be very happy with that.

Celtic/Rangers/Hearts have all directed dedicated funding to the female side of their clubs. All three will see huge improvement over the next few years and will go past Hibs. Perhaps Ron will take an interest and provide separate funding but whilst the female side of the club is run by the foundation it will not develop and improve. I'm pretty sure i could find £100k worth of savings at Hibs in order to facilitate basic contracts for the best players in the country. But i understand a new tannoy system is much more important. :wink:

Good on them all three of those clubs have more money than Hibs and have had more success. Hibs need to invest every penny in the men's team just to stand still this season.

The earlier suggestion of adding an optional amount to season ticket cost to fund the ladies team is worth exploring. I would like the ladies to do well and often look out for their result but if they were not there I would not miss them. Imho Hibs need to concentrate on Hibs men's team get that right first then look at expanding. We are a million miles away from getting the men's team sorted.

[Ringothedog]

Hibernian Ladies are as much a part of the club as the men’s team, they represent Hibernian in domestic and European games with pride and distinction. If it means that Season tickets have to increase by £10 to fund their team I am all for it, we all want a successful team on the park why alienate 50% of the population by underfunding or even worse disbanding our most successful part of the “Hibernian “ brand?

[Barman Stanton]

Hibernian Ladies are as much a part of the club as the men’s team, they represent Hibernian in domestic and European games with pride and distinction. If it means that Season tickets have to increase by £10 to fund their team I am all for it, we all want a successful team on the park why alienate 50% of the population by underfunding or even worse disbanding our most successful part of the “Hibernian “ brand?

Really dont want to offend anyone but I dont think they are as much part of the club as the mens team. No one I know has much interest in them at all. If they were as much part of the club then they would be playing in front of more than 100 or so fans (thats an estimate going by footage I have seen before anyone jumps on it).

[Keith_M]

I think we need an extra identifier for threads about Hibs Ladies/Women's team.

Announcing a game as Hibs v Slavia Prague is simply inaccurate if it's not the men's side.

There's Hibs and Hibs Ladies*, two different teams.



* until they change the name, which I believe is the plan

[Colr]

Need to get the women players onto contracts so that when the big money teams from England take players Hibs develop we get something back to plough into more tram development.

[Since452]

Really dont want to offend anyone but I dont think they are as much part of the club as the mens team. No one I know has much interest in them at all. If they were as much part of the club then they would be playing in front of more than 100 or so fans (thats an estimate going by footage I have seen before anyone jumps on it).

I'll put my cards on the table and say that we should be putting all our efforts and resources into the mens team(s). It's not like we've got unlimited money.

[we are hibs]

Hibernian Ladies are as much a part of the club as the men’s team, they represent Hibernian in domestic and European games with pride and distinction. If it means that Season tickets have to increase by £10 to fund their team I am all for it, we all want a successful team on the park why alienate 50% of the population by underfunding or even worse disbanding our most successful part of the “Hibernian “ brand?

Putting season tickets up to fund a team most hibs fans have little interest in is absurd. And before people jump all over my comment about little interest if there was big interest they would have bigger crowds at their games. Its not as if the mens and womens teams play at the same time.


Good luck to them but the hibs boards priority when it comes to distributing fianances should always be to benefit the mens first team.

[Golden Bear]

[QUOTE=we are hibs;5924521]Putting season tickets up to fund a team most hibs fans have little interest in is absurd. And before people jump all over my comment about little interest if there was big interest they would have bigger crowds at their games. Its not as if the mens and womens teams play at


I agree. I'm a Hibs supporter full stop. For all I like to see Hibernian Ladies doing well, they should be a separate entity and if thats where your loyalties lie then thats fine
What I don't want to see however is the finances of Hibs FC being siphoned in any shape or form to the ladies team. And as for the Community Foundation then I've no interest in that whatsoever. Let's get back to concentrating 100% on Hibernian FC.

[Eyrie]

Really dont want to offend anyone but I dont think they are as much part of the club as the mens team. No one I know has much interest in them at all. If they were as much part of the club then they would be playing in front of more than 100 or so fans (thats an estimate going by footage I have seen before anyone jumps on it).


I agree. I'm a Hibs supporter full stop. For all I like to see Hibernian Ladies doing well, they should be a separate entity and if thats where your loyalties lie then thats fine
What I don't want to see however is the finances of Hibs FC being siphoned in any shape or form to the ladies team. And as for the Community Foundation then I've no interest in that whatsoever. Let's get back to concentrating 100% on Hibernian FC.
If you're a Hibs fan, surely you support Hibs?

Why shouldn't our ladies team be part of our club?

Why shouldn't we be pleased about what they've achieved and willing to build on the potential before we get left behind?

£100k spent on our ladies team will have a transformational effect compared to spending nothing and keeping that £100k in the men's team to be spent on another Newell.

For perspective, that £100k is the equivalent of 220 fans at each of the nineteen home games for the men's team. Or it's half the amount we could get for a shirt sponsorship.

[judas]

Just a reminder that Hibs are playing in the champions league on Wed night at Easter Rd. Tickets are very reasonable and it would be great to sell out the West for them if we could. 👍
😵

[B.H.F.C]

If you're a Hibs fan, surely you support Hibs?

Why shouldn't our ladies team be part of our club?

Why shouldn't we be pleased about what they've achieved and willing to build on the potential before we get left behind?

£100k spent on our ladies team will have a transformational effect compared to spending nothing and keeping that £100k in the men's team to be spent on another Newell.

For perspective, that £100k is the equivalent of 220 fans at each of the nineteen home games for the men's team. Or it's half the amount we could get for a shirt sponsorship.

Hibs don't have enough money to subsidise them. £100k, if spent wisely, is a lot of money at our level.

They shouldn’t spend a penny on the women’s side. I’m glad we don’t and would be annoyed if that changes.

[hibsbollah]

Hibs don't have enough money to subsidise them. £100k, if spent wisely, is a lot of money at our level.

They shouldn’t spend a penny on the women’s side. I’m glad we don’t and would be annoyed if that changes.

'Them'? Who is this 'them'? 'Them' as in 'them and us'?

I'm very much looking forward to you and others who think like you, being 'annoyed' in future.

[B.H.F.C]

'Them'? Who is this 'them'? 'Them' as in 'them and us'?

I'm very much looking forward to you and others who think like you, being 'annoyed' in future.

How do I think? Go on, enlighten me.

[Pretty Boy]

If there is such a depth of feeling against Hibs helping the ladies team maybe some people should ask the fans reps to suggest we cut them adrift entirely.

The current situation with them being under the community umbrella in some aspects but being bound by the same commercial contracts in others is preventing them from sourcing their own funding and thus relying on the 'subsidies', from the community foundation or otherwise, they are given. It's a pretty strange situation really and in contrast to what Celtic, Hearts, Rangers and Aberdeen are doing by fully integrating their women's teams. It also allows our best players to walk away to English clubs for nothing, that's arguably cost us money already and in the medium to long term most certainly will again.

People can either accept that the world is changing, women's football is here to stay and we can embrace it or we can go against the grain, chart a different path from other clubs in Scotland and allow the women to rebrand as Edinburgh Greens or something and try and go it alone.

I was at the game last night and there was loads of groups of young women aged between about 11 and 17 there in groups. All talking about football, talking about playing football and now having women as well as men to look up to representing their club. I think it would be total madness to ignore the explosion in women's football over the last decade. The number of woman participating in footbal at all age groups is at an all time high, the quality is improving as the player pool gets bigger and increased participation means increased interest and increased support for the whole club. Why you would turn that away and allow Hearts or Spartans or whoever else to reap the benefits is beyond me.

[B.H.F.C]

If there is such a depth of feeling against Hibs helping the ladies team maybe some people should ask the fans reps to suggest we cut them adrift entirely.

The current situation with them being under the community umbrella in some aspects but being bound by the same commercial contracts in others is preventing them from sourcing their own funding and thus relying on the 'subsidies', from the community foundation or otherwise, they are given. It's a pretty strange situation really and in contrast to what Celtic, Hearts, Rangers and Aberdeen are doing by fully integrating their women's teams. It also allows our best players to walk away to English clubs for nothing, that's arguably cost us money already and in the medium to long term most certainly will again.

People can either accept that the world is changing, women's football is here to stay and we can embrace it or we can go against the grain, chart a different path from other clubs in Scotland and allow the women to rebrand as Edinburgh Greens or something and try and go it alone.

I was at the game last night and there was loads of groups of young women aged between about 11 and 17 there in groups. All talking about football, talking about playing football and now having women as well as men to look up to representing their club. I think it would be total madness to ignore the explosion in women's football over the last decade. The number of woman participating in footbal at all age groups is at an all time high, the quality is improving as the player pool gets bigger and increased participation means increased interest and increased support for the whole club. Why you would turn that away and allow Hearts or Spartans or whoever else to reap the benefits is beyond me.

I’m not against the women having a team or being associated with the club. I just think they should be self funding. I don’t know the ins and outs of the commercial stuff but they absolutely shouldn’t be restricted on that front.

[Brightside]

I’m not against the women having a team or being associated with the club. I just think they should be self funding. I don’t know the ins and outs of the commercial stuff but they absolutely shouldn’t be restricted on that front.

No women’s football teams are self funding at the top level. They didn’t have the 100 year start and TV money that the men had.

[Brightside]

Wait until that indoor facility is announced as the home ground for the ladies team.

[Ringothedog]

If there is such a depth of feeling against Hibs helping the ladies team maybe some people should ask the fans reps to suggest we cut them adrift entirely.

The current situation with them being under the community umbrella in some aspects but being bound by the same commercial contracts in others is preventing them from sourcing their own funding and thus relying on the 'subsidies', from the community foundation or otherwise, they are given. It's a pretty strange situation really and in contrast to what Celtic, Hearts, Rangers and Aberdeen are doing by fully integrating their women's teams. It also allows our best players to walk away to English clubs for nothing, that's arguably cost us money already and in the medium to long term most certainly will again.

People can either accept that the world is changing, women's football is here to stay and we can embrace it or we can go against the grain, chart a different path from other clubs in Scotland and allow the women to rebrand as Edinburgh Greens or something and try and go it alone.

I was at the game last night and there was loads of groups of young women aged between about 11 and 17 there in groups. All talking about football, talking about playing football and now having women as well as men to look up to representing their club. I think it would be total madness to ignore the explosion in women's football over the last decade. The number of woman participating in footbal at all age groups is at an all time high, the quality is improving as the player pool gets bigger and increased participation means increased interest and increased support for the whole club. Why you would turn that away and allow Hearts or Spartans or whoever else to reap the benefits is beyond me.

I agree with you totally but there will be more than a few who will not and would want the Ladies team made independent from our club which is meant to represent the whole of our community

[B.H.F.C]

No women’s football teams are self funding at the top level. They didn’t have the 100 year start and TV money that the men had.

Well they need to start somewhere. They shouldn’t be denied the opportunity to do anything, but I just don’t think a club like Hibs can be looking to help fund them (especially at a time when we have a poor team and are being told we’ve spent all our budget).

[Sammy7nil]

If you're a Hibs fan, surely you support Hibs?

Why shouldn't our ladies team be part of our club?

Why shouldn't we be pleased about what they've achieved and willing to build on the potential before we get left behind?

£100k spent on our ladies team will have a transformational effect compared to spending nothing and keeping that £100k in the men's team to be spent on another Newell.

For perspective, that £100k is the equivalent of 220 fans at each of the nineteen home games for the men's team. Or it's half the amount we could get for a shirt sponsorship.

I think 100 % of Hibs fans support the men's Hibs team a tiny minority will support the ladies. Most will want them to do well and hope they win however if Hibs did not have a ladies team a huge majority would not give a monkeys.

iMHO the ladies should be offered facilities and a little help with the cost of holding matches. None of the money generated by the men's team should be used to pay coaches or players.

[The Modfather]

As well as all the restrictions that it sounds like being affiliated to playing under the Hibs “brand”, is there not also an element of exposure and support associated to being part of that same “brand” that they might otherwise not have if they were an independent team?

I’ve no real interest in women’s football or the Hibs ladies team, but I feel we should, as a minimum, help them with training facilities, strips, allowing them to grow commercially etc, anything more and I’m less keen.

When my daughter is older women’s football might be something she’s into and I’ll happily go with her, as I’m sure I will to lots of things i’m not particularly keen on.

[hibby rae]

https://youtu.be/ofe31600G-0

Probs worth sharing this (if it doesn't work just search for 'a day in the life Joelle Murray'), to give an idea of how tough it must be to play for Hibs and still pay the bills.

The dedication and hard work these women display to play for Hibs, for the love of doing it, should be rewarded.

If your daughter's dream was to be a professional footballer for Hibs, would you say to her you'd not want any of their budget to go towards her wages? I'd hate to think girls will watch Hibs and think they won't get the same opportunities as the boys.

Hibs should lead the way on this, retain our place as one of the two best teams in the country and push to be the best.

[Barman Stanton]

If you're a Hibs fan, surely you support Hibs?

Why shouldn't our ladies team be part of our club?

Why shouldn't we be pleased about what they've achieved and willing to build on the potential before we get left behind?

£100k spent on our ladies team will have a transformational effect compared to spending nothing and keeping that £100k in the men's team to be spent on another Newell.

For perspective, that £100k is the equivalent of 220 fans at each of the nineteen home games for the men's team. Or it's half the amount we could get for a shirt sponsorship.

I would support a Hibs team at tiddlywinks. However I wouldn’t want us to support them financially.

100k is a lot. If we had that would you rather it went on the woman’s team or buying Efe to shore up our defence?

[hibby rae]

I would support a Hibs team at tiddlywinks. However I wouldn’t want us to support them financially.

100k is a lot. If we had that would you rather it went on the woman’s team or buying Efe to shore up our defence?

Both. And not spend money on Doidge 😂

But that 100k is an investment. There's what, 5 players who we could have got fees for in the last two seasons who left to play in England?

Also, showing we are serious sends the right message to future players and helps foster a growing support among a young female fanbase.

[Barman Stanton]

Both. And not spend money on Doidge [emoji23]

But that 100k is an investment. There's what, 5 players who we could have got fees for in the last two seasons who left to play in England?

Also, showing we are serious sends the right message to future players and helps foster a growing support among a young female fanbase.

I just don’t really care how many players it would buy for the woman’s team I’m afraid. I want any available funds to go towards the men’s team.

One thing I will say though, wanting all funds to go to the men’s team doesn’t make anyone less of a Hibs fan. Just different priorities. (Not saying that’s what you think by the way)

[McD]

I think it’s the right thing for Hibs to financially support the Ladies team, women’s football is ever growing, and we're rightly proud of being an inclusive and community club. Just my tuppence worth.


as for the game, fitness aside, I thought the difference between the 2 sides was the quality of off-the-ball movement from the Prague players, the player in possession always had options, and their tactical fouling, especially early in the 2nd half. Any time a Hibs player got their foot on the ball and looked to play, a foul was committed and broke up any momentum. Sadly the referee didn’t stop this, and allowed them to shut the game down for a large period. I felt 4-1 flattered the opposition, albeit they deserved to win.

Also has to be said, the referee was very poor. Many niggly fouls either unpunished or not booked when they were given, refusing to stop play for a Hibs head injury in the first half yet stopped play later for a Prague player down with cramp, bookings for nothing challenges but no bookings for much worse, etc.

[hibby rae]

I just don’t really care how many players it would buy for the woman’s team I’m afraid. I want any available funds to go towards the men’s team.

One thing I will say though, wanting all funds to go to the men’s team doesn’t make anyone less of a Hibs fan. Just different priorities. (Not saying that’s what you think by the way)

I get that.

I'm not talking about buying players, but paying the girls a fair wage, so they're not having 14 hour days to get by, and having them on contracts that we've developed. Look at the Scotland squad at the last World Cup, I think it was 10 or 11 were players who we developed. That's lost revenue when they leave. It makes financial sense in the long-term.

And is there a point providing Heckingbottom funds, for a possible short-term gain (although not certain, and CH isn't the priority) when his signings haven't exactly set the world on fire?

[Barman Stanton]

I get that.

I'm not talking about buying players, but paying the girls a fair wage, so they're not having 14 hour days to get by, and having them on contracts that we've developed. Look at the Scotland squad at the last World Cup, I think it was 10 or 11 were players who we developed. That's lost revenue when they leave. It makes financial sense in the long-term.

And is there a point providing Heckingbottom funds, for a possible short-term gain (although not certain, and CH isn't the priority) when his signings haven't exactly set the world on fire?

Well put it this way, just because Heckys team is playing poor I’m not going to stop watching them and go watch the woman’s team instead. So yeah, I would still want the funds to go to him to improve the team.

And I know you can watch both but clearly the vast majority don’t. If there was more interest in the team then they would be making funds from the turnstiles. They have consistently won cups and challenged at the top so there is really no excuse for not going to watch them.

[B.H.F.C]

I get that.

I'm not talking about buying players, but paying the girls a fair wage, so they're not having 14 hour days to get by, and having them on contracts that we've developed. Look at the Scotland squad at the last World Cup, I think it was 10 or 11 were players who we developed. That's lost revenue when they leave. It makes financial sense in the long-term.

And is there a point providing Heckingbottom funds, for a possible short-term gain (although not certain, and CH isn't the priority) when his signings haven't exactly set the world on fire?

We can’t be paying them a wage without impacting on the budget for the real stuff. At a time when we are struggling and crowds are starting to decline, even thinking about diverting money in another direction is crazy.

All this talk of doing the right thing with the community foundation, now the women’s team. We’re not a charity.

[hibby rae]

Well put it this way, just because Heckys team is playing poor I’m not going to stop watching them and go watch the woman’s team instead. So yeah, I would still want the funds to go to him to improve the team.

And I know you can watch both but clearly the vast majority don’t. If there was more interest in the team then they would be making funds from the turnstiles. They have consistently won cups and challenged at the top so there is really no excuse for not going to watch them.

If I didn't have a season ticket and had to pick who I'd rather watch at the moment, I'd pick the women's team as I think I'd enjoy the game more. The point is the funds haven't yet improved the team, there's no point throwing good money after bad. And as I said before, it makes sense financially in the long-term.

Financial arguments aside, it's the right thing to do. We say we are for everyone, 'We Are Hibernian.' Then actions speak louder than words. If we are for everyone then we should provide the same opportunities to everyone, regardless of their gender.

[Crazyhorse]

If I didn't have a season ticket and had to pick who I'd rather watch at the moment, I'd pick the women's team as I think I'd enjoy the game more. The point is the funds haven't yet improved the team, there's no point throwing good money after bad. And as I said before, it makes sense financially in the long-term.

Financial arguments aside, it's the right thing to do. We say we are for everyone, 'We Are Hibernian.' Then actions speak louder than words. If we are for everyone then we should provide the same opportunities to everyone, regardless of their gender.

Completely agree with this.

[Barman Stanton]

If I didn't have a season ticket and had to pick who I'd rather watch at the moment, I'd pick the women's team as I think I'd enjoy the game more. The point is the funds haven't yet improved the team, there's no point throwing good money after bad. And as I said before, it makes sense financially in the long-term.

Financial arguments aside, it's the right thing to do. We say we are for everyone, 'We Are Hibernian.' Then actions speak louder than words. If we are for everyone then we should provide the same opportunities to everyone, regardless of their gender.

Well each to their own. Hibs for me means Heckys current batch of misfits. Not the woman’s team I’m afraid.

Going by this thread you would think there is huge interest in the woman’s team. And yet the Scottish Cup Final gets little more than a 1000 crowd.

[Brightside]

Well each to their own. Hibs for me means Heckys current batch of misfits. Not the woman’s team I’m afraid.

Going by this thread you would think there is huge interest in the woman’s team. And yet the Scottish Cup Final gets little more than a 1000 crowd.

So more than lowland league games who’s players are on contracts?

[Barman Stanton]

So more than lowland league games who’s players are on contracts?

We are talking the Scottish Cup Final here. The biggest game in the woman’s calendar. Would you not expect more than a lowland league game?

[B.H.F.C]

So more than lowland league games who’s players are on contracts?

Take Bonnyrigg, who are in the lowland league, as an example.

Crowds in excess of 500 at home games. If they stay neck in neck with Kelty you can treble that when they come to play each other. Work hard to bring in lots of sponsorship money. Regular fundraisers. Offer hospitality.

Now, maybe that explains why they are on contracts?

[Brightside]

We are talking the Scottish Cup Final here. The biggest game in the woman’s calendar. Would you not expect more than a lowland league game?

Not when half the population have such a negative attitude to women’s football. It’s growing but it will take time to change many attitudes. Probably even another generation. Another example. solhiem Cup is on now. I’d bet more than half the male golf fans can’t be bothered with that either. Weird isn’t it.

[Brightside]

Take Bonnyrigg, who are in the lowland league, as an example.

Crowds in excess of 500 at home games. If they stay neck in neck with Kelty you can treble that when they come to play each other. Work hard to bring in lots of sponsorship money. Regular fundraisers. Offer hospitality.

Now, maybe that explains why they are on contracts?

My point was that so many are saying the ladies should have to pay their own way. Almost no lowland clubs pay their own way. They are funded by rich benefactors who are gambling on gaining success and then becoming self funding. Exactly what the ladies team need to do. We just have Ron as the rich benefactor now. Who knows maybe he will announce something in 2 months time.

[B.H.F.C]

My point was that so many are saying the ladies should have to pay their own way. Almost no lowland clubs pay their own way. They are funded by rich benefactors who are gambling on gaining success and then becoming self funding. Exactly what the ladies team need to do. We just have Ron as the rich benefactor now. Who knows maybe he will announce something in 2 months time.

If Ron decides he wants to stick some money towards the women’s team, fine. If Ron decides to take money out of any income generated through the club, to put towards the women’s team, that’s a different story.

Out with the obvious example of Kelty, who are all these teams in the lowland league that have a rich guy pumping money in?

[Malthibby]

Well each to their own. Hibs for me means Heckys current batch of misfits. Not the woman’s team I’m afraid.

Going by this thread you would think there is huge interest in the woman’s team. And yet the Scottish Cup Final gets little more than a 1000 crowd.


Watched the women'a cup final over 10 years ago at Dalkeith Thistle & there were about 70 of us, so crowds are up by nearly x15, if you want to concentrate on figures.
Football teams are investing in the women's game in Scotland and across Europe, they're not doing it out of a sense of social responsibility or commitment to equality (would be cool if they
were but they ain't), they're doing it because it makes commercial sense, because there are more & more girls becoming involved & wanting to play, because it gives a reason
for half the population to engage more meaningfully in football.
It just needs seed money & if Hibs won't provide it others will & we will lose out. If that happens it will be due to a complete and utter lack of imagination.

[Eyrie]

If Ron decides he wants to stick some money towards the women’s team, fine. If Ron decides to take money out of any income generated through the club, to put towards the women’s team, that’s a different story.

Out with the obvious example of Kelty, who are all these teams in the lowland league that have a rich guy pumping money in?

The ladies team is part of Hibs.

[B.H.F.C]

The ladies team is part of Hibs.

Are they?

I’m not actually saying they shouldn’t be part of the club by the way. But, IMO, they should only be able to spend what they bring in so they need to be given a fair crack at doing that. The men’s team (that people actually spend their hard earned to watch) shouldn’t have less money available to support the women’s team.

[Sir David Gray]

I'd rather that £100k went to signing Efe.

Me too. I wish the women's team well but I support the men's team and I personally wouldn't want anything to happen that detracts from the financial input into the men's side.

I realise that won't be the popular opinion.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Me too. I wish the women's team well but I support the men's team and I personally wouldn't want anything to happen that detracts from the financial input into the men's side.

I realise that won't be the popular opinion.

It's just not worth the hassle of posting it. 😉

[wallpaperman]

I would support a Hibs team at tiddlywinks. However I wouldn’t want us to support them financially.

100k is a lot. If we had that would you rather it went on the woman’s team or buying Efe to shore up our defence?

£100k sounds a lot, but it only represents about 1% of our turnover, we should surely be able to divert 1% of our turnover to the ladies team?

I must admit that I was not always interested, but since my daughter has started playing, she has become football mad and it has rubbed off in our household, so we watch all sorts of games.

Went to see the Ladies last weekend against Spartans, great commitment and skill from them, and my daughter could see up close how tough they are.

Could we sign Alex Morgan please? :wink:

[Golden Bear]

Me too. I wish the women's team well but I support the men's team and I personally wouldn't want anything to happen that detracts from the financial input into the men's side.

I realise that won't be the popular opinion.

I think it is a popular opinion but majority viewpoints mean absolutely nothing these days!

[lord bunberry]

I think hibs should be funding both the men’s and ladies games. The ladies should be playing home games at Easter Road as well. There’s money to be made from sponsorship deals if you include the ladies team. If the ladies were on contracts then there would be money coming back into the club when a player moves to England. If other Scottish teams are doing it then it shows that it’s possible.

[Helensburghhibs]

I think hibs should be funding both the men’s and ladies games. The ladies should be playing home games at Easter Road as well. There’s money to be made from sponsorship deals if you include the ladies team. If the ladies were on contracts then there would be money coming back into the club when a player moves to England. If other Scottish teams are doing it then it shows that it’s possible.

I on the other hand think that the ladies team should be run as a separate entity. Build up their own finances from the support and sponsorship they can gather. I have no interest in women's football and wouldnt like to think that the setup would be taking money that could and should be invested in the men's team. Probably not popular at all but hey ho

[lord bunberry]

I on the other hand think that the ladies team should be run as a separate entity. Build up their own finances from the support and sponsorship they can gather. I have no interest in women's football and wouldnt like to think that the setup would be taking money that could and should be invested in the men's team. Probably not popular at all but hey ho
The ladies game is ready to explode in popularity and passing up on this opportunity is extremely short sighted. Look at the interest in the World Cup earlier this year, hibs are missing out on a potential money spinner by not promoting the ladies game properly. The girls should all be on contracts and be playing at Easter Road in games that are properly promoted by the club. The money saved from renting Ainslie Park and just a modest crowd at Easter Road for games would cover the cost of the team becoming professional. The game is hugely popular all over the world, the only thing holding it back here is the lack of our professional clubs running and promoting it properly.

[B.H.F.C]

The ladies game is ready to explode in popularity and passing up on this opportunity is extremely short sighted. Look at the interest in the World Cup earlier this year, hibs are missing out on a potential money spinner by not promoting the ladies game properly. The girls should all be on contracts and be playing at Easter Road in games that are properly promoted by the club. The money saved from renting Ainslie Park and just a modest crowd at Easter Road for games would cover the cost of the team becoming professional. The game is hugely popular all over the world, the only thing holding it back here is the lack of our professional clubs running and promoting it properly.

One thing that definitely shouldn’t happen is them playing at ER every week. The pitch would be ruined. Even the pro clubs down south play their games elsewhere.

[lord bunberry]

One thing that definitely shouldn’t happen is them playing at ER every week. The pitch would be ruined. Even the pro clubs down south play their games elsewhere.
It wouldn’t be ruined, pitches these days can take two games a week and the ladies don’t play anywhere near as many games as the men.

[Helensburghhibs]

The ladies game is ready to explode in popularity and passing up on this opportunity is extremely short sighted. Look at the interest in the World Cup earlier this year, hibs are missing out on a potential money spinner by not promoting the ladies game properly. The girls should all be on contracts and be playing at Easter Road in games that are properly promoted by the club. The money saved from renting Ainslie Park and just a modest crowd at Easter Road for games would cover the cost of the team becoming professional. The game is hugely popular all over the world, the only thing holding it back here is the lack of our professional clubs running and promoting it properly.

You think the ladies setup would be profitable? Never mind a money spinner. Why would it be any different to the men's setup that struggles to turn a profit?

[lord bunberry]

You think the ladies setup would be profitable? Never mind a money spinner. Why would it be any different to the men's setup that struggles to turn a profit?
Because they would have very few overheads and the players would be paid a wage that wouldn’t require a huge outlay. If they’re training at East Mains and playing at Easter Road then that’s going to cost practically nothing. Sponsorship and gate receipts could well outstrip costs if promoted properly. You only have to look at some of the crowds in England to see the potential in the ladies game. I totally get that plenty hibs fans aren’t interested in going to see the ladies play, but they shouldn’t close their minds to the potential that’s there. Scotland isn’t any different to any other European country, and if the game can thrive in those countries it can do so here.

[Helensburghhibs]

Because they would have very few overheads and the players would be paid a wage that wouldn’t require a huge outlay. If they’re training at East Mains and playing at Easter Road then that’s going to cost practically nothing. Sponsorship and gate receipts could well outstrip costs if promoted properly. You only have to look at some of the crowds in England to see the potential in the ladies game. I totally get that plenty hibs fans aren’t interested in going to see the ladies play, but they shouldn’t close their minds to the potential that’s there. Scotland isn’t any different to any other European country, and if the game can thrive in those countries it can do so here.

Some fair points. I stand by my view that it should be treated as a separate entity with its own interested audience, but each to their own.

[hibby rae]

More potential revenue lost as another Hibee signs for a professional top level English club:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/49692389

[hibby rae]

It's been mentioned how attendance could be higher. One thing I've noticed is, not just the lack of coverage the games can get, but the lack of pre-match information available.

Take tomorrow's game as an example, the quarters of the Scottish cup are tomorrow but the BBC website has no fixtures listed. When the BBC does cover the games they lead with Celtic or Rangers despite them not being the best teams.

So far, when searching online for tomorrow's game against Hamilton, my brother and I have found two different venues listed, two different kick off times and I haven't seen any information regarding ticket prices.

The information on the Hibs website about the HLFC is a joke. No fixtures listed and no ticketing information. They haven't even bothered updating the players info, all of them are listed as having made no appearances this season with no goals scored.

They may put a post up on social media aboit the game tomorrow, but for most people, families especially, that's not giving much time to plan.

[we are hibs]

More potential revenue lost as another Hibee signs for a professional top level English club:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/49692389


Potential revenue for who? I doubt it would go down well if they did become professional and an english side come in for one of the women players and the board decide to spend any fee on the mens team. So im unsure why people would be happy for money to be spent on the womens team thats been generated by the mens team but if it was the other way there would be a big kick off about it.

[hibby rae]

Potential revenue for who? I doubt it would go down well if they did become professional and an english side come in for one of the women players and the board decide to spend any fee on the mens team. So im unsure why people would be happy for money to be spent on the womens team thats been generated by the mens team but if it was the other way there would be a big kick off about it.

Obviously potential revunue for the club. The rest of what you say is conjecture, as the women's team are yet to be given professional status. But money raised by player sales isn't solely used to be spent on the team anyway. It's used gor multiple reasons.