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Colr
06-09-2019, 05:02 AM
Good riddance!!

50 years too late!

Ozyhibby
06-09-2019, 05:22 AM
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MartinfaePorty
06-09-2019, 07:01 AM
Great interview with Peter Hain this morning, outlining how Mugabe shifted from being a revered hero of Zimbabwean independence to a murderous despot.

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Hibernia&Alba
06-09-2019, 07:20 AM
95 - that's some age. I don't know much about him, but it seems he was a very complex and contradictory person. I'm not qualified to say much more at this stage. Post-colonial Africa isn't my specialist subject at all.

Pretty Boy
06-09-2019, 09:11 AM
Good career move.

Nothing rehabilitates a person more completely than dying.

lord bunberry
06-09-2019, 09:40 AM
Good riddance. Ran his country into the ground for personal gain.

JeMeSouviens
06-09-2019, 10:05 AM
Good riddance!!

50 years too late!

Not sure about 50. It's not a subject I know a huge amount about but was his role as leader together with Joshua Nkomo in ousting the old white minority Rhodesian regime and introducing the original Zimbabwean constitution not generally considered a good thing? Obviously since tearing that up and becoming a power crazed dictator it didn't go quite so well ...

Maybe 35 years too late? :dunno:

lord bunberry
06-09-2019, 11:03 AM
I watched Romesh Ranginathana show in Zimbabwe the other night. It was really interesting to hear their thoughts on the old regime. Mugabe started of well, but when things started to go wrong he became an absolute tyrant.

Killiehibbie
06-09-2019, 01:13 PM
Got to a position that was beyond him but wouldn't let go. Another in a very long list of people who should never have been leading their country.

cabbageandribs1875
06-09-2019, 01:18 PM
rot in hell murderer

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06-09-2019, 02:49 PM
rot in hell murderer

If only there was one for him to rot in!

Smartie
06-09-2019, 03:00 PM
I used to work with a lady whose parents were murdered by his regime in Zimbabwe.

There were a lot of "wrongs" committed where in the distant past white people found themselves owning large areas of African land, but those wrongs aren't righted by making further appalling wrongs.

She is a lovely lady, and is one of those people who it was fascinating to scratch the surface of and find out what she'd experienced in her life, including being arrested for political protest in Zimbabwe. She is literally the last person on Earth that you could imagine being arrested - until you hear about her background and it starts to make sense.

lord bunberry
06-09-2019, 09:40 PM
When things started to go wrong for him he evicted the white farmers by force and handed over the land to people who didn’t have the skills to run the farms. A managed transition might have saved the economic crash, but by that time all he cared about was political survival. Thousands died to keep him in power.

Fife-Hibee
06-09-2019, 10:11 PM
I wonder if we'll be saying the same things about Boris Johnson in a few decades.

Killiehibbie
07-09-2019, 08:32 AM
I wonder if we'll be saying the same things about Boris Johnson in a few decades.

Sooner than that.

NAE NOOKIE
07-09-2019, 11:26 AM
Saw an interview with a guy who was ambassador to Zimbabwe in the 90s and he confirmed what a few have said on here. Mugabe started well and then became a car crash as he handed over the land to the so called 'veterans' in order to cement himself in power.

Of course as in so many of these situations you only have to work out how far to go back to find who was responsible for the likes of Mugabe and as usual its European imperialism and too often British imperialism.

G B Young
07-09-2019, 03:53 PM
When he first came to power he was compared to Mandela, but he went on to drive what had been a virtually self-sufficient country (known back then as the bread basket of Africa) to its knees, destroying its economy and leaving it forced to rely on food imports. Along the way he killed tens of thousands of his own citizens and perceived opponents. Right up there among the world's most brutal dictators.

wpj
07-09-2019, 04:11 PM
BBC News - In pictures: The life of Robert Mugabe
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/in-pictures-35300694

A quick summary of his life. Fairly sanitised though.

Hibrandenburg
07-09-2019, 06:50 PM
When he first came to power he was compared to Mandela, but he went on to drive what had been a virtually self-sufficient country (known back then as the bread basket of Africa) to its knees, destroying its economy and leaving it forced to rely on food imports. Along the way he killed tens of thousands of his own citizens and perceived opponents. Right up there among the world's most brutal dictators.

Yep, that's the way right wing isolationism tends to go.

Jim44
09-09-2019, 06:21 AM
As Bob Monkhouse used to say ....... ebagum!