Prince Andrew in deep deep doo doo

[Weegreenman]

Prince Andrew is being accused of allegedly having sex with a women who was under the legal age of sexual consent in the state she’s from in America.
Now obviously he’s innocent until proven guilty but you have to ask why a member of our monarchy was rubbing shoulders with the likes of Jeff Epstein, a convicted pedophile.

This will bring major embarrassment to not only our establishment but The Queen herself. Now I’m no lover of the monarchy but I have great respect for the queen.

It’ll be very interesting to see how this all plays out. Will Andrew be made to go to America and answer these allegations and maybe potentially be arrested or will it be swept under the carpet??

[JeMeSouviens]

Prince Andrew is being accused of allegedly having sex with a women who was under the legal age of sexual consent in the state she’s from in America.
Now obviously he’s innocent until proven guilty but you have to ask why a member of our monarchy was rubbing shoulders with the likes of Jeff Epstein, a convicted pedophile.

This will bring major embarrassment to not only our establishment but The Queen herself. Now I’m no lover of the monarchy but I have great respect for the queen.

It’ll be very interesting to see how this all plays out. Will Andrew be made to go to America and answer these allegations and maybe potentially be arrested or will it be swept under the carpet??

Hmm, let me ponder that for all of about 0.0004 nanoseconds ...

[Scouse Hibee]

Prince Andrew is being accused of allegedly having sex with a women who was under the legal age of sexual consent in the state she’s from in America.
Now obviously he’s innocent until proven guilty but you have to ask why a member of our monarchy was rubbing shoulders with the likes of Jeff Epstein, a convicted pedophile.

This will bring major embarrassment to not only our establishment but The Queen herself. Now I’m no lover of the monarchy but I have great respect for the queen.

It’ll be very interesting to see how this all plays out. Will Andrew be made to go to America and answer these allegations and maybe potentially be arrested or will it be swept under the carpet??

Maybe he will have an accident!

[Onceinawhile]

Aye, but even though the guy was already a convicted peadophile, Andrew never saw any of that going on, so how was he supposed to know that he wasn't a good guy?

Absolute shambles that he was allowed to kill himself/was killed in his cell (delete as you feel appropriate) especially given his links to the high and mighty of the US political scene and more broadly.

[Bangkok Hibby]

It won't play out to a satisfactory conclusion. He won't be made to talk...that's it.

[Moulin Yarns]

Is he in the Tower yet?

[Cataplana]

I suspect he night find himself involved in some diplomatic bargaining. We are heading for Brexit, and trade negotiations will open with the US imminently.

[Smartie]

Is he in the Tower yet?

He'll be in a cell next to Boris before you know it, deeply regretting that he hadn't kept his space lizard tadger to himself.

[Ozyhibby]

Prince Andrew will never set foot in the United States again. Ever.


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[Fife-Hibee]

The biggest shock about all of this is that people are actually shocked.

[1 8 7 5]

He'll be in a cell next to Boris before you know it, deeply regretting that he hadn't kept his space lizard tadger to himself.

:greengrin

[Hibernia&Alba]

I haven't been following this story; I pay no interest to royal stories. Who is accusing him of having sex with underage girls? His friendship with that Epstein fiend shows very poor judgement at the very least.

[JeMeSouviens]

I haven't been following this story; I pay no interest to royal stories. Who is accusing him of having sex with underage girls? His friendship with that Epstein fiend shows very poor judgement at the very least.

A girl who was underage when she met him.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/aug/27/prince-andrew-virginia-giuffre-epstein-accuser

[Colr]

Maybe he will have an accident!

Wouldn’t fancy the chances for his accuser.

[cabbageandribs1875]

ffs, the yank actress might just turn out to be the only "normal" one of them all....then again she's not exactly a role model either, off with their heads...ALL of them

[cabbageandribs1875]

Omfg

[stoneyburn hibs]

Omfg

The bow tie was squint.

[cabbageandribs1875]

The bow tie was squint.


lol

[cabbageandribs1875]

https://pagesix.com/2019/10/19/detective-finds-epstein-address-book-with-13-phone-numbers-for-prince-andrew/



Billionaire pedophile Jeffrey Epstein (https://pagesix.com/tag/Jeffrey-Epstein/) was loyal to his royal (https://nypost.com/2019/08/20/prince-andrew-willing-to-answer-police-questions-about-ties-to-jeffrey-epstein-report/?_ga=2.134741362.2036639967.1571169554-2054137049.1569702016), logging 13 phone numbers for pal Prince Andrew, (https://pagesix.com/tag/Prince-Andrew/) according to a private investigator, a report says.



the pervert prince :agree: bet he's praying this all blows over, and soon

[Mon Dieu4]

https://pagesix.com/2019/10/19/detective-finds-epstein-address-book-with-13-phone-numbers-for-prince-andrew/



Billionaire pedophile Jeffrey Epstein (https://pagesix.com/tag/Jeffrey-Epstein/) was loyal to his royal (https://nypost.com/2019/08/20/prince-andrew-willing-to-answer-police-questions-about-ties-to-jeffrey-epstein-report/?_ga=2.134741362.2036639967.1571169554-2054137049.1569702016), logging 13 phone numbers for pal Prince Andrew, (https://pagesix.com/tag/Prince-Andrew/) according to a private investigator, a report says.



the pervert prince :agree: bet he's praying this all blows over, and soon

An un-redacted version of his address book has been online for a while now, it's got rakes of famous people all the way through it, some have more numbers than others, take what you will from that

[cabbageandribs1875]

An un-redacted version of his address book has been online for a while now, it's got rakes of famous people all the way through it, some have more numbers than others, take what you will from that



the prince and the paedophile just started on ch4 dispatches

[Cataplana]

Seems Epstein might not have committed suicide.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/jeffrey-epsteins-death-was-likely-homicide-not-suicide-says-famed-nyc-pathologist/ar-AAJA1Ha?ocid=spartanntp

[Ozyhibby]

Seems Epstein might not have committed suicide.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/jeffrey-epsteins-death-was-likely-homicide-not-suicide-says-famed-nyc-pathologist/ar-AAJA1Ha?ocid=spartanntp

The royals tend to have a good clean up crew.[emoji6]


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[Cataplana]

The royals tend to have a good clean up crew.[emoji6]


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:greengrin

[wpj]

The royals tend to have a good clean up crew.[emoji6]


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Mr Wolf from Pulp Fiction (now ruined by an insurance advert)

[cabbageandribs1875]

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/10174751/prince-andrew-questions-fortune-third-richest-royal/


PRINCE Andrew is facing questions about his luxurious lifestyle after his staggering £57million fortune was revealed.
Norman Baker, a former Lib Dem MP, is demanding answers as to how the Duke of York was able to rake in huge sums of cash to build an astonishing private wealth which makes him the third richest royal.


good luck with the asking of Questions, the pervert prince doesn't lower himself to answering Questions

[stoneyburn hibs]

Prince Andrew " I let the side down "

I really don't think that any further hearsay needs to commented on.

The end.

[Scouse Hibee]

Context?

[stoneyburn hibs]

Context?

Look it up.

" I failed to uphold the standards of the royal family.....
"

Does is really need context?

[Smartie]

I thought he didn’t do anything wrong and didn’t really know Epstein all that well?

[Scouse Hibee]

Look it up.

" I failed to uphold the standards of the royal family.....
"

Does is really need context?

Of course it needs context,I just watched the interview, he said that after admitting he stayed at Epstein’s house in NYC, not sure nothing more needs to be said just because he made that comment.

[stoneyburn hibs]

Of course it needs context,I just watched the interview, he said that after admitting he stayed at Epstein’s house in NYC, not sure nothing more needs to be said just because he made that comment.

So it doesn't need context??
You've seen the interview?

[Glory Lurker]

I'm not going to read it. Doesn't matter what it says, what we've seen over last 12 hours is textbook establishment. No word of substance at all for weeks. Then, yesterday, soft trail by the BBC during the day: he's done an interview. No big push on that story. Then "Exclusive to all papers" front pages on Saturday's prints. BBC bumps story up to top billing.

The Firm, and their pals, still playing us like a fiddle.

[Bangkok Hibby]

Ive just watched the interview. There are photos and a video of him with Virginia Andrews. He now says he has no recollection of meeting her!
Guilty as charged....as if we didn't already know.

[Mon Dieu4]

I'm not going to read it. Doesn't matter what it says, what we've seen over last 12 hours is textbook establishment. No word of substance at all for weeks. Then, yesterday, soft trail by the BBC during the day: he's done an interview. No big push on that story. Then "Exclusive to all papers" front pages on Saturday's prints. BBC bumps story up to top billing.

The Firm, and their pals, still playing us like a fiddle.

Absolutely spot on :top marks

They all know exactly how to work the machine and think we are all zipped up the back

[Scouse Hibee]

So it doesn't need context??
You've seen the interview?

I hadn’t when I asked you, hence why I asked!

I now know the context of the remark you posted, cheers 👍

[southsider]

Ive just watched the interview. There are photos and a video of him with Virginia Andrews. He now says he has no recollection of meeting her!
Guilty as charged....as if we didn't already know.
Trumpeque reply. Never said ‘I never had sex with this girl’. Just I have can’t remember meeting her. Afaik 17 is a minor in USA and I would like him to reply under oath if a civil case happens.

[Hibrandenburg]

Playing devil's advocate, my wife has a photo of us together, taken about a year before I thought we first met.

[lapsedhibee]

Ive just watched the interview.
Does he get asked whether The Family had Epstein eliminated?

[Ozyhibby]

Playing devil's advocate, my wife has a photo of us together, taken about a year before I thought we first met.

I assume you are of similar age? I’m 48 and if I had a photo taken beside a pretty 17 year old girl in a crop top at a private residence I would remember meeting her. It’s an embarrassing defence.


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[Hibrandenburg]

I assume you are of similar age? I’m 48 and if I had a photo taken beside a pretty 17 year old girl in a crop top at a private residence I would remember meeting her. It’s an embarrassing defence.


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My wife is a year older. She bought a CD at one of our gigs and came over for an autograph and her friend took a photo of us together. It's not an every day occurrence for me and I have no recollection of the photo being taken, prince Andrew on the other hand, must experience similar everytime he is mingling with the public, there's no way he will be able to remember everyone who has had a photo taken with him.

[Ozyhibby]

My wife is a year older. She bought a CD at one of our gigs and came over for an autograph and her friend took a photo of us together. It's not an every day occurrence for me and I have no recollection of the photo being taken, prince Andrew on the other hand, must experience similar everytime he is mingling with the public, there's no way he will be able to remember everyone who has had a photo taken with him.

He wasn’t mingling with the public here though. He was at a private party with only a few other people there. Most of them underage girls. I would definitely remember if I was ever in that situation, even if I was a public figure.


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[southsider]

But she illeges had sex with him 3 times. So he can’t remember that ?
Worth an estimated £60 million. You don’t get that kind of money opening Fettes. So where did it come from. Come independence one of the first things on the agenda would be a republic. The People’s Republic of Scotland has a nice ring to it,

[Cataplana]

But she illeges had sex with him 3 times. So he can’t remember that ?
Worth an estimated £60 million. You don’t get that kind of money opening Fettes. So where did it come from. Come independence one of the first things on the agenda would be a republic. The People’s Republic of Scotland has a nice ring to it,

I don't think that will ever happen. Consider the chances of a civil war.

[Hibrandenburg]

He wasn’t mingling with the public here though. He was at a private party with only a few other people there. Most of them underage girls. I would definitely remember if I was ever in that situation, even if I was a public figure.


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I don't want to defend him, he's proven himself to be a complete dickhead over and over again, but there's no way that he'll remember having every photo that's ever been taken of him, be that in public, private or using a zoom lens from 500m away whilst he was on holiday. From the day he was born there must be literally millions of photos of him, taken with and without his permission or knowledge.

I've had my photo taken with a few Hibs players over the years, most of them would have no recollection of these photos being taken or who the guy is with them in the photo if they were shown them. Christ, I constantly see photos of me on social media or at home and have trouble remembering when, where and by whom the photo was taken.

Like I say. I'm not defending him or denying he was in the company of this girl and there's lots of other damning evidence that he's dodgy as ****, but his statement regarding his recollection of the photo being taken is plausible.

[heretoday]

I've let down my family by letting my trousers down.
Good evening.

[Colr]

I’m more interested in where the dodgy ******* got his multi-million pound fortune from. Did she ask about that?

[Slavers]

So you had Prince Charles best pals with Jimmy Savile and Prince Andrew best friends with Epstein.

Doesn't take Mi5 to know what's been going on.

[NAE NOOKIE]

I’m more interested in where the dodgy ******* got his multi-million pound fortune from. Did she ask about that?

Almost certainly bungs for acting as go between on a load of arms and other trade deals with Saudi Arabia and F knows what other despotic regimes we like to call our 'friends'

As for his current 'predicament' .... I dont think his alleged indiscretions take him into the sphere of paedophilia when he comes from a country where 16 is the legal age of consent ... but it certainly does take him into the sphere of statutory rapist as far as the US is concerned I would imagine, if the girls accusation is true.

Mr Epstein's extremely convenient demise probably means the whole thing wont go anywhere in the end, at least in a criminal law sense ... Did 'they' kill him? Maybe not, but if he was suicidal you have to wonder just how hard the powers that be were trying to keep him alive, not very by the look of it.

[Cataplana]

So you had Prince Charles best pals with Jimmy Savile and Prince Andrew best friends with Epstein.

Doesn't take Mi5 to know what's been going on.

Lord Mountbatten would have cleared this whole thing up.

[stoneyburn hibs]

I don't think that will ever happen. Consider the chances of a civil war.

Eh?

An Independent Scotland declares itself a republic and civil war ensues, bit dramatic.

[Cataplana]

Eh?

An Independent Scotland declares itself a republic and civil war ensues, bit dramatic.

It's happened before in Ireland, and that's not too far away.

[Fife-Hibee]

Eh?

An Independent Scotland declares itself a republic and civil war ensues, bit dramatic.

https://img.techpowerup.org/191116/roflbot.jpg

[cabbageandribs1875]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-50296742?SThisFB&fbclid=IwAR0gS5ULu96eX8xhca9I1aaRpVypEoIGe4isbc432 T50yRnQT95CnW0MQxk

Leaked footage shows a US TV anchor complaining that editors "quashed" a story about paedophile Jeffrey Epstein due to pressure from the Royal Family.
ABC's Amy Robach is seen in the clip griping that her interview with an alleged victim of Epstein and Prince Andrew never made it to air.
"The Palace found out and threatened us a million different ways," she says.

[lapsedhibee]

It's happened before in Ireland, and that's not too far away.

Was that really about the monarch/y? :dunno:

[stokesmessiah]

I thought he didn’t do anything wrong and didn’t really know Epstein all that well?

He went to stay with him after he had been either charged or convicted.

[stoneyburn hibs]

https://img.techpowerup.org/191116/roflbot.jpg

🤣🤣

[Benny Brazil]

Anyone watching his interview? It's a bit of a car crash - he isnt doing himself any favours here

[marinello59]

Anyone watching his interview? It's a bit of a car crash - he isnt doing himself any favours here

He is hanging himself and the BBC is helping him do it.

[660]

That interview was incredible. He couldn’t sweat at the time?! Ahaha

[Fife-Hibee]

He is hanging himself and the BBC is helping him do it.

He's hanging himself, the BBC are desperately trying to cut the rope.

[marinello59]

The reaction of Emily Maitlis to his conduct unbecoming comment destroyed him .
‘He was a sex offender’
‘I was being polite’
Looks like he has done more harm to himself than good.

[marinello59]

He's hanging himself, the BBC are desperately trying to cut the rope.

Did you see the interview? It was incredulity central. On the run up to the interview his comment that he has never met the girl concerned was instantly followed by a picture of them together.

[DetroitHibs]

Another rumor was Jill Dando was going to expose the pedophile ring, before being killed. Still nobody caught for that.

[Fife-Hibee]

Did you see the interview? It was incredulity central. On the run up to the interview his comment that he has never met the girl concerned was instantly followed by a picture of them together.

That's because everybody has already seen the picture. But watch them over the next couple of weeks do their best to water the whole situation down.

[marinello59]

That's because everybody has already seen the picture. But watch them over the next couple of weeks do their best to water the whole situation down.

Watch it again. Emily Maitlis did a good job. There are no commentators impressed by his denials tonight. It was a total car crash.
(I know you have a habit of trashing BBC programmes you haven’t even watched so I am assuming you watched this one.)

[Moulin Yarns]

Have a look at twitter. 😂


Take a look at these search results: https://twitter.com/hashtag/PrinceAndrew?s=09

[Fife-Hibee]

Watch it again. Emily Maitlis did a good job. There are no commentators impressed by his denials tonight. It was a total car crash.
(I know you have a habit of trashing BBC programmes you haven’t even watched so I am assuming you watched this one.)

Just wait and see. I'll give it 3 weeks tops.

[marinello59]

Just wait and see. I'll give it 3 weeks tops.

For what? Have you watched it? Have you seen the reaction?

[marinello59]

Have a look at twitter. 😂


Take a look at these search results: https://twitter.com/hashtag/PrinceAndrew?s=09

Looks like the famed palace protection screen has failed. 😂

[Fife-Hibee]

For what? Have you watched it? Have you seen the reaction?

I guarantee you that nothing will happen to him. The news will settle down on the story and it won't be dug up again until he's dead.

If the royals can keep ABC quiet, they'll certainly have no problem making the BBC compliant.

[marinello59]

I guarantee you that nothing will happen to him. The news will settle down on the story and it won't be dug up again until he's dead.

If the royals can keep ABC quiet, they'll certainly have no problem making the BBC compliant.

You have shifted away from your original point there.,
So did you watch the interview? Which parts of it had you shouting at the TV that the BBC were compliant in making him look good?

[lapsedhibee]

Have a look at twitter. 😂


Take a look at these search results: https://twitter.com/hashtag/PrinceAndrew?s=09

:faf:

[Pretty Boy]

The only winners from that interview are Pizza Express in Woking. Evidently a visit there is very memorable indeed.

Can't remember having sex with an underage girl on multiple occasions but remembers a single evening there 18 years ago.....

[Chorley Hibee]

Why aren't the police interviewing him rather than the bloody BBC?

[Fife-Hibee]

You have shifted away from your original point there.,
So did you watch the interview? Which parts of it had you shouting at the TV that the BBC were compliant in making him look good?

The part where the BBC were interviewing him, rather than the authorities.

[Bangkok Hibby]

I guarantee you that nothing will happen to him. The news will settle down on the story and it won't be dug up again until he's dead.

If the royals can keep ABC quiet, they'll certainly have no problem making the BBC compliant.

Sadly I agree. Love to see him in deep bother but its not going to happen.

[Ozyhibby]

The only winners from that interview are Pizza Express in Woking. Evidently a visit there is very memorable indeed.

Can't remember having sex with an underage girl on multiple occasions but remembers a single evening there 18 years ago.....

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[Glory Lurker]

For what? Have you watched it? Have you seen the reaction?

Jumping in here, M59, sorry. I've a lot of time for your "third way" take on things ( :-) ), but I think you are giving the royals too easy a ride here. I've not seen it, won't watch it, and won't read a word about it. The Firm is the most protected and - more to the point - powerful institution in this country. Not one bit of doorstepping since the story arose. Oh,no. Left alone while they formulated their approach. For weeks. Then the state broadcaster gets an interview at Firm HQ????

[NAE NOOKIE]

He said that because of a medical condition at the time of the alleged meetings with this girl he "couldn't sweat" so her account of him sweating profusely while dancing with her had to be a lie, proving he wasn't there, or at least if he was he didn't have physical contact with her.

The condition he says he now no longer has sounds like Anhidrosis .... the severest form of the condition can prevent you from sweating at all which can be life threatening in hot weather ... so the last place you would want to go on holiday is a Caribbean island or New York in late summer, it should also be noted that at the time ( 2001 ) Prince Andrew was 'working' as a UK trade ambassador which almost certainly involved trips to some of the hottest parts of the world .. a strange choice of occupation for someone with the severest form of that condition.

But ... in less severe forms of Anhidrosis where it only affects parts of the body the parts which do sweat can do so to excess. It would be interesting to see what the extent of 'his royal highness's' Anhidrosis was, if it was this form then far from refuting the girls account it could actually give it more credence.

They say the best lies are ones that contain an element of truth ... as a result the question isn't did he have the condition, the very pertinent question is how severe was it? I wouldn't be surprised if his medical records are on the way to a furnace as I type :greengrin

[Pretty Boy]

I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't come out of this as easily as some seem to think.

The last, publicly accused, royal nonce ended up blown to pieces in Ireland. The IRA were on hand to carry out/take the blame for that particular demise. There must be a Jihadi group in need of a boost kicking about......

[Cataplana]

The only winners from that interview are Pizza Express in Woking. Evidently a visit there is very memorable indeed.

Can't remember having sex with an underage girl on multiple occasions but remembers a single evening there 18 years ago.....

To be fair, one is much more unusual for a member of the royal family than the other.

The stupidest answer in the whole thing was the nonsense about a mystery medical condition. If you are going to throw that into the ring, at least give it a name.

Originally Posted by Fife-Hibee:
I guarantee you that nothing will happen to him. The news will settle down on the story and it won't be dug up again until he's dead.

If the royals can keep ABC quiet, they'll certainly have no problem making the BBC compliant.


I tend to disagree, there are fanatics still obsessed by the McCanns, and that involves a much less public figure.

I can guarantee that the internet will be full of pictures of him sweating today, as well as comments from professionals and amateurs pointing out contradictions and embedded confessions.

I can only assume he is in deep doo doo, and real evidence is out there, which they cannot buy. He has been hung out to dry by the ready of them.

[Cataplana]

Was that really about the monarch/y? :dunno:

The civil war in Northern Ireland was.

[marinello59]

The part where the BBC were interviewing him, rather than the authorities.

You are shifting away from your original assertion here that the BBC were letting him off the hook with last night's interview.
The American authorities should be pushing harder for him to co-operate but you can't blame the BBC for that. If anything last nights interview increases the pressure on him to talk to them.

[Cataplana]

"It was almost a mental health issue." The day the mad card jumped the shark.

If something is almost something then it isn't that at all.

Yet another case of "blue light psychosis." A condition that seems to only be diagnosed once you find yourself in the back of a police car with the lights flashing.

[marinello59]

Jumping in here, M59, sorry. I've a lot of time for your "third way" take on things ( :-) ), but I think you are giving the royals too easy a ride here. I've not seen it, won't watch it, and won't read a word about it. The Firm is the most protected and - more to the point - powerful institution in this country. Not one bit of doorstepping since the story arose. Oh,no. Left alone while they formulated their approach. For weeks. Then the state broadcaster gets an interview at Firm HQ????

I'm not so sure my comments could be read as giving the Royals an easy time here. I agree with you about the workings of the 'firm' and their PR machine. It's ruthless. . That's what makes last nights interview so interesting, they got this one spectacularly wrong. Emily Maitlis did a decent job of exposing him last night, I don't think that anybody who has watched it would disagree.
Over to the American authorities.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Thought this was quite amusing.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EJg1fa6X0AAGjtr?format=jpg&name=small

[Hibrandenburg]

I'm surprised that the ruthless investigative journalist T. Robinson isn't on the case.

[Slavers]

I'm surprised that the ruthless investigative journalist T. Robinson isn't on the case.

I think Emily Maitlis has got this covered.

[bawheid]

Maitlis was superb. The only thing she missed was when Nonce Andy was saying that the photo must be fake because it’s been taken upstairs in Epstein’s house, and he’s never been upstairs. “How do you know what the upstairs looks like then pal?”

Absolutely tremendous viewing last night. The arrogance of the man to think he could just bare faced lie his way through a forensic 45 minute interview with one of the best the BBC can offer. Car crash telly.

[Colr]

Read the piece on Sunningdale House on wiki.

Does he sale not look like money laundering to you?

[heretoday]

The sight of the Duke striding purposefully through sumptuous palace corridors with Maitlis tripping along beside him makes me suspect we won't see much come out of all this.

Anyway, if he's broken the law, let the law take its course.

[Fife-Hibee]

Anyway, if he's broken the law, let the law take its course.

It won't though, that's the problem.

[marinello59]

It won't though, that's the problem.

A problem that the American authorities have to address.

[Ozyhibby]

I didn’t watch last night but did Maitlis ask if he would ever be travelling back to the US?


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[Cataplana]

A problem that the American authorities have to address.

Which is the heart of the matter. How good would it play out over there if they could get him extradited?

I've said before, I suspect he is a hostage in a bigger game.

[EH6 Hibby]

If the girl is lying, she would be destroyed by the palace’s lawyers. Why are they not going after her for Libel? It’s not like they’re scared to take people to court.

[Slavers]

Which is the heart of the matter. How good would it play out over there if they could get him extradited?

I've said before, I suspect he is a hostage in a bigger game.

I think your right Trump has Prince Andrew by the short and curlies.

[Hibrandenburg]

I think your right Trump has Prince Andrew by the short and curlies.

Looking at Trump's connections to Epstein, there might even be a photo of the occasion.

[Slavers]

Looking at Trump's connections to Epstein, there might even be a photo of the occasion.

If there was we'd all know about it by now and it would be splashed all over the various democrat media outlets...

Unless you know something no one else does?

[lord bunberry]

If there was we'd all know about it by now and it would be splashed all over the various democrat media outlets...

Unless you know something no one else does?
There is photos of Trump with Epstein.

[Tobias Funke]

If there was we'd all know about it by now and it would be splashed all over the various democrat media outlets...

Unless you know something no one else does?

You genuinely are fantastic entertainment value. :top marks

Ever thought about ditching the internet for a while? Might do you some good.

[cabbageandribs1875]

i watched a documentary a few weeks back where randy andy stated that he only went back to NYC to break off his friendship with epstein lol

[Slavers]

There is photos of Trump with Epstein.

In what context though? As far as I'm aware it does not relate to young girls.

They did mix in similar company but it would be hard not to considering the amount of people Esptein had links too.

The point being Trump has Prince Andrew in his grasp as being the only person on the planet that can bring him to America to face trial. Why Trump wants this leverage i do not know but he has it.

[Slavers]

You genuinely are fantastic entertainment value. :top marks

Ever thought about ditching the internet for a while? Might do you some good.

Thank you Higgo, I know i can count on you for a wee Ego boost :D

[lord bunberry]

In what context though? As far as I'm aware it does not relate to young girls.

They did mix in similar company but it would be hard not to considering the amount of people Esptein had links too.

The point being Trump has Prince Andrew in his grasp as being the only person on the planet that can bring him to America to face trial. Why Trump wants this leverage i do not know but he has it.
The photos I saw where old ones and weren’t as far as I’m aware in anyway to do with this scandal.

[Hibrandenburg]

Unless you know something no one else does?

I know a satirical statement when I see one.

[Glory Lurker]

I'm not so sure my comments could be read as giving the Royals an easy time here. I agree with you about the workings of the 'firm' and their PR machine. It's ruthless. . That's what makes last nights interview so interesting, they got this one spectacularly wrong. Emily Maitlis did a decent job of exposing him last night, I don't think that anybody who has watched it would disagree.
Over to the American authorities.

The more I'm seeing on social media today the more I'm thinking that I might have to watch it, and eat my words!

[Slavers]

I know a satirical statement when I see one.

Your contribution to the thread so far has been to defend Prince Andrew by playing Devils Advocate (fair enough) then move the topic onto Tommy Robinson and now you have suggested that there might be photos of Trump on par with Prince Andrew yet no one has seen them.

[Mon Dieu4]

From everything I've seen about it, seems like Clinton that's more the issue on this one rather than Trump

[Hibrandenburg]

Your contribution to the thread so far has been to defend Prince Andrew by playing Devils Advocate (fair enough) then move the topic onto Tommy Robinson and now you have suggested that there might be photos of Trump on par with Prince Andrew yet no one has seen them.

😂 I made the point that one of the world's most photographed men might not actually recall every one of those photos whilst making it clear I think he's dodgy.

Please tell me you didn't pick up on that the Tommy Robinson jibe was satire :faf:

Trump was a friend of Epstein and is every bit as despicable. Here's a quote from Donald from a few years back:



“I’ve known Jeff for 15*years. Terrific guy,” the now president, told*New York*magazine in 2002. “He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it – Jeffrey enjoys his social life.”

That's the thing with satire, there has to be a perception of truth to make it work.

[lapsedhibee]

The point being Trump has Prince Andrew in his grasp as being the only person on the planet that can bring him to America to face trial. Why Trump wants this leverage i do not know but he has it.

Trump will want to use this to pressure-tweet The Queen to come out publicly for Johnson in the run-up to the election.

[cabbageandribs1875]

Public displays of affection is not something I do ..

https://scontent-yyz1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/74852044_2413040252289462_5869447051959336960_n.jp g?_nc_cat=101&_nc_oc=AQmUoowP3h_8pc8XChhf98LfETZxyi5KyC8qRoT24_v YcJDB-Up_HPuyvTfE7pwISYM&_nc_ht=scontent-yyz1-1.xx&oh=5afd855fedb3ac03a8a8ea08c13e51b7&oe=5E897713

Public displays of affection is not something I do ..

https://scontent-yyz1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/76644617_2413040232289464_8311380351964413952_n.jp g?_nc_cat=101&_nc_oc=AQkVTLN76OeYyd57RaoXrcTvUPFgGquMsYP5Jgfjn_e cbWX1NLNdenj7qOE8PWhMv4I&_nc_ht=scontent-yyz1-1.xx&oh=cfc65d7045368171bc108687749f98ac&oe=5E4D0341

Public displays of affection is not something I do

https://scontent-yyz1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/76899913_2413040248956129_2864281095195590656_n.jp g?_nc_cat=111&_nc_oc=AQnldLSyxi-o3w0hybmiVeNCX554E8FmZnnGUcw_rEs80YoqkUHFHuJzi9nHp 3xS0KQ&_nc_ht=scontent-yyz1-1.xx&oh=f9ab9c6a6147b785d9452e3eda306511&oe=5E85A988


oh, ok andy


https://scontent-yyz1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/75130963_10157603487725420_8602274191955197952_n.j pg?_nc_cat=104&_nc_oc=AQl6wGnkTviHf6ol6adnb2FD4JEu93JONUL1z2pcSsA 8ks4QoAW-TSjutI8YPZU3DMY&_nc_ht=scontent-yyz1-1.xx&oh=cc90f2329c35d6599623ba4f284f06bd&oe=5E84F080

[Colr]

Trump will want to use this to pressure-tweet The Queen to come out publicly for Johnson in the run-up to the election.

Trump - Epstein - Prince A???

Is that why Trump’s coming over here? Quiet word in Liz’s ear in private?

Sorting ‘business’ ?

[cabbageandribs1875]

someone won't be getting on the outdated honours list this year

https://scontent.fman1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/s960x960/77317549_10219507151817151_8127677771716493312_o.j pg?_nc_cat=106&_nc_oc=AQnk9QfdKSjxLI5X6O8xE95bhD0BB-v1R4-FXITElR1SC9E911sHdJqDDYrFXkzRmf8&_nc_ht=scontent.fman1-1.fna&oh=d90abbb7ebb86650b4605e96bb1a9af1&oe=5E83A742

[cabbageandribs1875]

22710

[heretoday]

I think this preoccupation with matters below the belt will be the ruin of us all. The BBC has sunk to new lows. Can we now expect a docudrama entitled The Prince and the Party Girl?

[Cataplana]

I think this preoccupation with matters below the belt will be the ruin of us all. The BBC has sunk to new lows. Can we now expect a docudrama entitled The Prince and the Party Girl?

With the current allegations it's more likely to be the Prince and the Sex Slave. No trivial matter really.

[Fife-Hibee]

I think this preoccupation with matters below the belt will be the ruin of us all. The BBC has sunk to new lows. Can we now expect a docudrama entitled The Prince and the Party Girl?

Nothing to see here, move along.

[Ozyhibby]

I think this preoccupation with matters below the belt will be the ruin of us all. The BBC has sunk to new lows. Can we now expect a docudrama entitled The Prince and the Party Girl?

Is this a serious post?


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[Kato]

From everything I've seen about it, seems like Clinton that's more the issue on this one rather than Trump

Then go after both.

[makaveli1875]

The queen has given Philip his license back and asked him to take Andrew out for a drive

[Jones28]

James O’Brien giving him a real kicking on LBC

[southsider]

James O’Brien giving him a real kicking on LBC
What’s being said ?

[southsider]

[QUOTE=Jones28;5993316]James O’Brien giving him a real kicking on LBC[/QUO
Morgan just blew his night hood on GMB. Called Andrew a liar. Could be a dream Xmas. Independence and a Republic. Bring it on.

[overdrive]

There’s some cracking reviews on Google of the Woking Pizza Express.

[Fife-Hibee]

Did Mr Walliams know something? Or is this just very unfortunate timing? :hmmm:
https://www.worldofdavidwalliams.com/book/the-beast-of-buckingham-palace/

[Peevemor]

https://newsthump.com/2019/11/18/i-couldnt-have-been-interviewed-by-emily-maitlis-because-i-was-at-a-burger-king-in-swansea-insists-prince-andrew/

[cabbageandribs1875]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-50467019

KPMG has not renewed its sponsorship of the Duke of York's entrepreneurship scheme
.
The accountancy firm is thought to have made the decision at the end of October, when its sponsorship of Pitch@Palace ended.

The controversy over the duke's ties to the convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein is understood to have been one reason behind the move.


hope others follow

[Glory Lurker]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-50467019

KPMG has not renewed its sponsorship of the Duke of York's entrepreneurship scheme
.
The accountancy firm is thought to have made the decision at the end of October, when its sponsorship of Pitch@Palace ended.

The controversy over the duke's ties to the convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein is understood to have been one reason behind the move.


hope others follow

I'd like to see The Taxpayer withdrawing sponsorship :-)

[cabbageandribs1875]

I'd like to see The Taxpayer withdrawing sponsorship :-)



awk the poor man is down to his last 57m, how he attained that much wealth is baffling, although we would have expected him to have paid off his ex's 75k debt...and the 15k she accepted from epstein to help pay of some debt

[Jones28]

What’s being said ?

Lots of callers basically theorising the reasons for the interview, either trying to get in a pre-emptive strike before an FBI subpoena or that his arrogance is such that he assumed a “clear the air” interview would shut everyone up.

[Andy Bee]

I'd like to see The Taxpayer withdrawing sponsorship :-)


He doesn't get taxpayers money, he's not on the Civil List. Maybe that's why he finds himself kicking around with characters like Epstein.

[Allant1981]

Couldnt actually believe what I was watching, it was like sitting my 10 year old down and speaking to him after he done something wrong, was a very strange interview

[Glory Lurker]

He doesn't get taxpayers money, he's not on the Civil List. Maybe that's why he finds himself kicking around with characters like Epstein.

I'm surprised he hasn't blamed that for his current predicament!

[Ozyhibby]

He doesn't get taxpayers money, he's not on the Civil List. Maybe that's why he finds himself kicking around with characters like Epstein.

He get £250k a year from the Queen. Where does she get her money?
Guys worth £60m and he’s dumb as dog ****. He’s monetising his position big time and that is at our expense.


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[southsider]

He doesn't get taxpayers money, he's not on the Civil List. Maybe that's why he finds himself kicking around with characters like Epstein.
His ex-wife has reportedly ‘borrowed’ a large sum of money from the American perv.

[Betty Boop]

Where's Epstein's co-accused disappeared to ? Ghislaine Maxwell daughter of the late Robert Maxwell no less. The FBI cannae trace her seemingly.

[stoneyburn hibs]

Where's Epstein's co-accused disappeared to ? Ghislaine Maxwell daughter of the late Robert Maxwell no less. The FBI cannae trace her seemingly.

I have an inkling that they should search Pizza Express, Woking.

[Fuzzywuzzy]

Where's Epstein's co-accused disappeared to ? Ghislaine Maxwell daughter of the late Robert Maxwell no less. The FBI cannae trace her seemingly.

Thought she had done a runner to Brazil. Her and someone else involved it think

[Cataplana]

I have an inkling that they should search Pizza Express, Woking.

What's the chances of him being there.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

I have an inkling that they should search Pizza Express, Woking.

She better not go there, someone will end up topping her! 😉

[Hibrandenburg]

She better not go there, someone will end up topping her! 😉

That's a pretty cheesy attempt at humour.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

That's a pretty cheesy attempt at humour.

There's probably not mushroom for humour on this subject.

[Hibrandenburg]

There's probably not mushroom for humour on this subject.

I respectfully disagree, there's still a Tonno material for puns.

[lyonhibs]

Strikes me as an absolute creep tbf. Proper weirdo, just like his ex-missus.

HRH must wish she could be a bit like Voldemort with Cedric Diggory - "kill the spare...."

[JeMeSouviens]

Strikes me as an absolute creep tbf. Proper weirdo, just like his ex-missus.

HRH must wish she could be a bit like Voldemort with Cedric Diggory - "kill the spare...."

Supposedly he's her favourite. Which given his longstanding reputation as a pompous womanising narcissist does rather call into question Auld Queenie's reputed wisdom. :confused:

[lapsedhibee]

Supposedly he's her favourite. Which given his longstanding reputation as a pompous womanising narcissist does rather call into question Auld Queenie's reputed wisdom. :confused:

The 'fact' :hmmm: that she's even got a favourite calls her wisdom into question. I wouldn't be entirely surprised if she's also got a favourite country in the four equal nations of the UK.

[Cataplana]

Supposedly he's her favourite. Which given his longstanding reputation as a pompous womanising narcissist does rather call into question Auld Queenie's reputed wisdom. :confused:

Have you seen the other two sons? Its a no brainer really.

Seriously though, the first son was never really hers. He'll have been taken away for the serious business of training for being King.

I very much doubt if she has a fav in the UK. She's Queen of the Commonwealth.

[JeMeSouviens]

The 'fact' :hmmm: that she's even got a favourite calls her wisdom into question. I wouldn't be entirely surprised if she's also got a favourite country in the four equal nations of the UK.

I would be amazed if she thinks of the UK as anything other than one country with a few dodgy troublemakers in its outer regions. The pervading establishment view aiui.

[Cataplana]

I would be amazed if she thinks of the UK as anything other than one country with a few dodgy troublemakers in its outer regions. The pervading establishment view aiui.

The cheek of it, then coming up here and dressing up in CU Jimmy hats, and Gold Brothers kilts every summer.

[JeMeSouviens]

The cheek of it, then coming up here and dressing up in CU Jimmy hats, and Gold Brothers kilts every summer.

FFS

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/08/03/13/05E6DB860000044D-3721663-image-m-25_1470228910556.jpg

[Cataplana]

FFS

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/08/03/13/05E6DB860000044D-3721663-image-m-25_1470228910556.jpg

She's a durty hoor in that outfit.

[Peevemor]

She's a durty hoor in that outfit.

:hilarious In a Fran & Anna sort of way...

[Cataplana]

:hilarious In a Fran & Anna sort of way...

You're talking my language neebor.

[Colr]

FFS

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/08/03/13/05E6DB860000044D-3721663-image-m-25_1470228910556.jpg

Is it Fran and Anna?

[Jones28]

If anyone would like an insight into class and titled privilege needs to listen to the segment of James O’Brien’s show on LBC from 11-45 to 12-00 today. Absolutely bonkers contributions.

[21.05.2016]

He was supposedly "strongly advised" not to do the interview. the fact he went ahead and did it anyway reeks of an incrediably arrogant individual who believed he'd be able to lie through his teeth and people would be convinced of his innocence.


I've seen clips but can't really bring myself to watch the whole thing as it really is painfully cringeworthy to watch. The guy is guilty as sin and the interview has done him no favours.

[DaveF]

Stepping back from duty for the foreseeable future.

[Cataplana]

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/prince-andrew-duke-wants-to-do-another-interview-on-jeffrey-epstein-to-show-remorse/ar-BBX3bR0?ocid=spartanntphttps://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/prince-andrew-duke-wants-to-do-another-interview-on-jeffrey-epstein-to-show-remorse/ar-BBX3bR0?ocid=spartanntp

I think he is entitled to a second interview too. In a court of law under cross examination.

[stoneyburn hibs]

Stepping back from duty for the foreseeable future.

Must have received money off vouchers for Pizza Express.

[Hibernia&Alba]

He's a wrong 'un, though I've always suspected many of the aristocracy are deviants and oddballs.

[Pretty Boy]

He's a wrong 'un, though I've always suspected many of the aristocracy are deviants and oddballs.

Centuries of ****ging your own cousins will take it's toll on the brain cells.

[bigwheel]

Centuries of ****ging your own cousins will take it's toll on the brain cells.

Enough about Hearts fans, Let’s keep to topic [emoji6]

[Jones28]

Retired from public duties for the foreseeable future.

[cabbageandribs1875]

Retired from public duties for the foreseeable future.




= until his seedy sexploits stop appearing in the daily papers

[Colr]

= until his seedy sexploits stop appearing in the daily papers

Time to move on to arms trading and money laundering then.

[Jones28]

= until his seedy sexploits stop appearing in the daily papers

Oh no, who will open our post offices now?

[Cataplana]

Is it really wise to give him even more time to himself?

[southsider]

Is it really wise to give him even more time to himself?

And will his ma still give him £250k a year. Imagine a guy his age still getting pocket money fi his ma.

[Hibernia&Alba]

And will his ma still give him £250k a year. Imagine a guy his age still getting pocket money fi his ma.

That's some pocket money!

[Cataplana]

Looks like he was mutually consented. Should think himself lucky it would have been the Tower at one time.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/prince-andrew-summoned-to-buckingham-palace-by-queen-and-stripped-of-royal-duties/ar-BBX55GJ?ocid=spartanntp

[JeMeSouviens]

Never knew David Walliams wrote biographies. :wink:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EJ44-QvXsAA7_yw?format=jpg&name=medium

[Scorrie]

Never knew David Walliams wrote biographies. :wink:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EJ44-QvXsAA7_yw?format=jpg&name=medium

Some timing that eh? 😂

[Alex Trager]

If anyone would like an insight into class and titled privilege needs to listen to the segment of James O’Brien’s show on LBC from 11-45 to 12-00 today. Absolutely bonkers contributions.

Just listened to this.

Incredible really.

One person phoned to say:
There are certain circumstances you can be friends with paedophiles .

Another.
This is a witch hunt against PA and antisemiticism against epstein.

Another:
‘Is it fair that we are dissing the whole royal family for it?’
‘No one is dissing the whole family. You don’t think the royal family would be improved by getting rid of a member who hangs around with paedophiles?’
‘No’

Our country has interesting folk.

James O’Brien then went on to say if it were a muslim taxi driver there would in no way be people coming on to defend him

[cabbageandribs1875]

one Andrew Neil in epstein's black book....must have been going to do an interview, of sorts




https://scontent.fman2-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/78815503_3128528230497147_5242048816454041600_n.jp g?_nc_cat=109&_nc_ohc=lf42MUb18IEAQlofHTu5Sx8tsvLNHlJwV8uiUARUL0 Oe8PCVd3dvjZyEQ&_nc_ht=scontent.fman2-2.fna&oh=1149ca33a3a176c427fa92f6a15dd73e&oe=5E492716



Tony Blair and peter mandelson as well, i think they used to have eyes wide shut group meetings :agree:

[Cataplana]

one Andrew Neil in epstein's black book....must have been going to do an interview, of sorts




https://scontent.fman2-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/78815503_3128528230497147_5242048816454041600_n.jp g?_nc_cat=109&_nc_ohc=lf42MUb18IEAQlofHTu5Sx8tsvLNHlJwV8uiUARUL0 Oe8PCVd3dvjZyEQ&_nc_ht=scontent.fman2-2.fna&oh=1149ca33a3a176c427fa92f6a15dd73e&oe=5E492716



Tony Blair and peter mandelson as well, i think they used to have eyes wide shut group meetings :agree:

Or Epstein was a sociopath who collected people's contact details as they may come in useful one day.

Maybe Pamela Bordes passed it on to him?

[Betty Boop]

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/epstein-clinton-x.JPG

[Colr]

one Andrew Neil in epstein's black book....must have been going to do an interview, of sorts




https://scontent.fman2-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/78815503_3128528230497147_5242048816454041600_n.jp g?_nc_cat=109&_nc_ohc=lf42MUb18IEAQlofHTu5Sx8tsvLNHlJwV8uiUARUL0 Oe8PCVd3dvjZyEQ&_nc_ht=scontent.fman2-2.fna&oh=1149ca33a3a176c427fa92f6a15dd73e&oe=5E492716



Tony Blair and peter mandelson as well, i think they used to have eyes wide shut group meetings :agree:

Was he at a Frankie Goes to Hollywood party there?

[cabbageandribs1875]

https://scontent.fman1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/78869838_2609819515730678_2564403579485945856_n.jp g?_nc_cat=105&_nc_ohc=m1G1SPPmpjQAQkAodPUiiC2Ymi6CIPwFVGqA3jrRkX zb9z8sLv-jYXb3g&_nc_ht=scontent.fman1-2.fna&oh=fb084103203c44b25573ce2e72c114ad&oe=5E3E6FF6

[cabbageandribs1875]

Was he at a Frankie Goes to Hollywood party there?


and more dirt, he's not a very principled individual, most likely in line with all royals, feathering their own nests whilst the royal mafia PR machine tells the peasants how lucky we are to have them


https://www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-family/2019/12/02/duke-york-exploited-trade-role-business-deals/?fbclid=IwAR2zyQCe-UIgLDas0s9wq5QgnJEw3g9ILo3HduyimqFmAImKvIiYG-yoElo


The Duke's relationship with the Rowlands is likely to come under scrutiny following the claims, which come amid increasing questions about the source of his wealth. He has been friends with David Rowland, a former scrap metal dealer, since at least 2005, when he unveiled a bronze statue of the financier in the grounds of Havilland Hall, his estate in Guernsey. Mr Rowland was invited to Balmoral in 2010, when he reportedly met the Queen and had tea with the Prince of Wales. Four months later, he is said to have paid £40,000 to help clear the Duchess of York's debts.


the shameless b*****D didn't even pay of his ex's debts himself, she herself of course after the divorce was flogging the chance to meet her ex for contributions to her piggy bank

i think i despise the royal family more than i do the twins trump and johnson, but only just mind

[Peevemor]

It's amazing how regularly Rowland's name crops up when dodgy deals are being reported.

[cabbageandribs1875]

https://scontent.fman1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/78914338_1032830937059539_7666285657198690304_n.jp g?_nc_cat=107&_nc_ohc=jpt5TPEWjt8AQmxY42onvpX_J7PWQoZ1m67c08BUmj oPGeq8S8SxHr40w&_nc_ht=scontent.fman1-2.fna&oh=b334453a7f4cd997c2f846b016652937&oe=5E401E15


:hilarious that song is just never going to sound the same again with the various alternative lines floating about

[Callum_62]

https://twitter.com/JimMFelton/status/1269743168884523011?s=19

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[Keith_M]

https://twitter.com/JimMFelton/status/1269743168884523011?s=19

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Then the UK should 'demand' that the US hands over Anne Sacoolas, to ensure justice is done.

[Hibrandenburg]

https://twitter.com/JimMFelton/status/1269743168884523011?s=19

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I'll pay for his flight providing this is only a one off action.

[CapitalGreen]

Then the UK should 'demand' that the US hands over Anne Sacoolas, to ensure justice is done.

So we should restrict potential justice for the victims of a sex offender unless we get something back in return?

[JeMeSouviens]

Then the UK should 'demand' that the US hands over Anne Sacoolas, to ensure justice is done.

The UK has demanded that. Are you suggesting PA shouldn't go to be interviewed until she comes back to face trial?

Do 2 wrongs make a right?

[Peevemor]

There's no question of him being deported. There's an agreement in place that he would answer their question in a British court - and as a witness. They're not accusing him of anything.

[Stairway 2 7]

There's no question of him being deported. There's an agreement in place that he would answer their question in a British court - and as a witness. They're not accusing him of anything.

They should be, multiple witnesses would mean the rest of us mere mortals would be in the cells

[AugustaHibs]

Lock him up and melt down the key, guarantee there’s more of his family that could join him too. Horrific people.

[Keith_M]

So we should restrict potential justice for the victims of a sex offender unless we get something back in return?


I don't think I said that, did I?

:confused:


Did you notice my emphasis on the 'demand' part?


The UK has demanded that. Are you suggesting PA shouldn't go to be interviewed until she comes back to face trial?

Do 2 wrongs make a right?


Yep, you've all caught me out. I'm a Royalist apologist and don't believe that sex offenders should be brought to justice. I also believe that, yes, two wrong do indeed make a right.

:rolleyes:


It obviously had absolutely nothing to do with the fact that US could possibly demand the extradition of someone from the UK, while hypocritically denying justice to the family of that poor kid from England

[Betty Boop]

Ghislaine Maxwell arrested by the FBI in New Hampshire.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-53268218

[Kato]

Ghislaine Maxwell arrested by the FBI in New Hampshire.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-53268218Wonder if she'll be dead before she gets a chance to sing?

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[weecounty hibby]

Ghislaine Maxwell arrested by the FBI in New Hampshire.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-53268218
Good, there will be an awfy lot of celebs, politicians, millionaires and billionaires getting very worried. Unless of course she commits suicide in prison as well while on strict suicide watch!!

[Peevemor]

Ghislaine Maxwell arrested by the FBI in New Hampshire.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-53268218She must have already been in dialogue with them for months. There has to be a deal involved.

[BroxburnHibee]

She must have already been in dialogue with them for months. There has to be a deal involved.

That was my first thought. Wonder if Andy is worried 😁

[The Modfather]

That was my first thought. Wonder if Andy is worried 😁

The news today will be no sweat to him.

[hibsbollah]

The news today will be no sweat to him.

I don’t like Miss Maxwells chances of seeing her next birthday out.

[The Baldmans Comb]

The Windors are a very "unlucky" family as this is yet another occasion where they are associated with paedophiles.

Jimmy Saville of course was an open guest at numerous private royal functions for many years and "Lord" Mountbatton was accused of many offenses concerning under age minors.

Andrew Windsor and the Epstein's is just another unfortunate situation to be negotiated and it will be.

England and many powerful USA figures cannot allow anything else.

[Mon Dieu4]

She must have already been in dialogue with them for months. There has to be a deal involved.

Possibly but if that was the case surely she would have handed herself in, sounds like they actually went out and arrested her

[cabbageandribs1875]

20 years Ghislaine Maxwell sentenced to 20 years in prison for sex trafficking crimes | US news | The Guardian (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/jun/28/ghislaine-maxwell-sentencing-sex-trafficking-epstein)


Ghislaine Maxwell (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ghislaine-maxwell) was sentenced on Tuesday to 20 years in prison in her New York sex-trafficking case for procuring teen girls for Jeffrey Epstein (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/jeffrey-epstein) for him to abuse. Maxwell, 60, has maintained her innocence.

Maxwell, a former British socialite, was convicted on 29 December of five of the six charges she faced. The jury came to their decision after 40 hours of deliberations spanning six days.

In addition to sex trafficking, Maxwell was convicted of conspiracy to entice individuals under the age of 17 to travel in interstate commerce with intent to engage in illegal sexual activity, conspiracy to transport individuals under the age of 17 to travel in interstate commerce with intent to engage in illegal sexual activity; transportation of an individual under the age of 17 with intent to engage in illegal sexual activity; and conspiracy to commit sex trafficking of individuals under the age of 18.

[21.05.2016]

20 years Ghislaine Maxwell sentenced to 20 years in prison for sex trafficking crimes | US news | The Guardian (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/jun/28/ghislaine-maxwell-sentencing-sex-trafficking-epstein)


Ghislaine Maxwell (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ghislaine-maxwell) was sentenced on Tuesday to 20 years in prison in her New York sex-trafficking case for procuring teen girls for Jeffrey Epstein (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/jeffrey-epstein) for him to abuse. Maxwell, 60, has maintained her innocence.

Maxwell, a former British socialite, was convicted on 29 December of five of the six charges she faced. The jury came to their decision after 40 hours of deliberations spanning six days.

In addition to sex trafficking, Maxwell was convicted of conspiracy to entice individuals under the age of 17 to travel in interstate commerce with intent to engage in illegal sexual activity, conspiracy to transport individuals under the age of 17 to travel in interstate commerce with intent to engage in illegal sexual activity; transportation of an individual under the age of 17 with intent to engage in illegal sexual activity; and conspiracy to commit sex trafficking of individuals under the age of 18.

She'll "commit suicide" soon no doubt. She's too much of a risk. If she was to open her mouth and blab there would be a LOT of very rich and powerful people who would be in a lot of ****.

She's an evil woman, her crimes and deceitfulness beggar belief and absolutely deserves a very very hefty time behind bars but there is no doubt she's taken the hit for a lot of powerful men.

The only way justice will ever be properly done is if she releases the list of her male "clients". As i say though, these men have too much money and too much power unfortunately.