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Fife-Hibee
16-08-2019, 07:25 PM
Aye, in our league. He begged Sevco to make the move permanent. Why didn’t they?

Did he? Or was it just more media speculation?

marinello59
16-08-2019, 07:27 PM
Did he? Or was it just more media speculation?

He quite clearly said he wanted to go back after his loan move.https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/sport/amp/football/44086244

BoyledEgg
16-08-2019, 07:33 PM
2 goals in 15 appearances. 1 in 14 at Forest. 6 in 22 at Peterborough. 1 in 5 at Luton. So 56 appearances for a total of 10 goals. Not great at all. If he hadn't played for us in the past I don't think folk would be excited by the prospect of Jason being our saviour. Add in his apparently unprofessional behaviour and it would be a definite no I would think

Not sure where you get you’re info from but off the top of my head he scored 2 for Forest against Newcastle, pretty sure he also scored a hat trick for Rangers aswell.

HibbyAndy
16-08-2019, 07:34 PM
Not sure where you get you’re info from but off the top of my head he scored 2 for Forest against Newcastle, pretty sure he also scored a hat trick for Rangers aswell.

:agree:

Scored 2 for Forest at Newcastle in the cup

weecounty hibby
16-08-2019, 07:36 PM
Not sure where you get you’re info from but off the top of my head he scored 2 for Forest against Newcastle, pretty sure he also scored a hat trick for Rangers aswell.
Might be league appearances. I think his huntrick was v Falkirk in a cup game

DH1875
16-08-2019, 07:39 PM
Not so sure. When fit Allan was Dundee's best player


:agree: and Dundee wanted to keep him. Only agreed to the whole thing because Allan told McCann directly that he wanted to come/go to Hibs.

Fife-Hibee
16-08-2019, 07:43 PM
He quite clearly said he wanted to go back after his loan move.https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/sport/amp/football/44086244

Hardly "begging" though is it? He was just saying what you would expect any professional football player to say for the club that pays their wages. It's also important to consider that he would have been on a considerably higher wage there than he was with us. There are better players out there than Cummings, but he has already proven that he can do a turn for us, given enough game time.

sixtwo
16-08-2019, 07:48 PM
What was he ment to say? Mutter and stutter and say he likes Jasons hair? No was a good enough answer for me.

He could say that the club are always interested in good players. To dismiss it was arrogant and disrespectful to the player and the fans. In many peoples eyes he is a hero for the cup performance alone. To dismiss it out of hand with one word seemed silly. Especially when we have to try and get behind that lump of ***** Doidge.

marinello59
16-08-2019, 07:49 PM
Hardly "begging" though is it? He was just saying what you would expect any professional football player to say for the club that pays their wages. It's also important to consider that he would have been on a considerably higher wage there than he was with us. There are better players out there than Cummings, but he has already proven that he can do a turn for us, given enough game time.

Sevco turned him down them and Tommy Wright said he wasn’t interested in taking him to St Johnstone yet he is the answer to our problems?
I loved the guy when he was with us, loved the swagger and the cheeky chappie stuff. That was then though, he fitted in to that team at the time. You are agreeing with me that there are better options out there so let’s show some ambition and chase them.

Devonhibs
16-08-2019, 07:55 PM
He could say that the club are always interested in good players. To dismiss it was arrogant and disrespectful to the player and the fans. In many peoples eyes he is a hero for the cup performance alone. To dismiss it out of hand with one word seemed silly. Especially when we have to try and GET BEHIND THAT LUMP OF ***** DOIDGE.

Thats the spirit. I know we are all upset after last Saturday but no need for such a comment from a 'supporter'!

JimBHibees
16-08-2019, 07:57 PM
He could say that the club are always interested in good players. To dismiss it was arrogant and disrespectful to the player and the fans. In many peoples eyes he is a hero for the cup performance alone. To dismiss it out of hand with one word seemed silly. Especially when we have to try and get behind that lump of ***** Doidge.

Wow.

lord bunberry
16-08-2019, 08:00 PM
Sevco turned him down them and Tommy Wright said he wasn’t interested in taking him to St Johnstone yet he is the answer to our problems?
I loved the guy when he was with us, loved the swagger and the all the cheeky chappie stuff. That was then though, he fitted in to that team at the time. You are agreeing with me that there are better options out there so let’s show some ambition and chase them.
There’s plenty of examples of players who haven’t done the business elsewhere, but just clicked at a certain club. Jim Leighton couldn’t get a game for Dundee, but was absolutely brilliant for hibs and got back into the Scotland team, Scott Allan is another.

JimBHibees
16-08-2019, 08:03 PM
Heckingbottom dismissed any suggestion of signing him! Why dismiss it so bluntly? I am so annoyed with this guy. Really liked him last year but his signings have been dross. I have come to the conclusion he does not understand the size of the job at Hibs. He thinks lower league pish from England would walk it here. He underestimates the league. He is buying to his budget but his network is so narrow, he is limited to crap from England. Last year we were sourcing players from Germany etc. He better turn things around soon because the knives are being sharpened after that shambles at Ibrox!

Probably because he wants someone better

cmcd
16-08-2019, 08:08 PM
He could say that the club are always interested in good players. To dismiss it was arrogant and disrespectful to the player and the fans. In many peoples eyes he is a hero for the cup performance alone. To dismiss it out of hand with one word seemed silly. Especially when we have to try and get behind that lump of ***** Doidge.

What Cup performance ??

marinello59
16-08-2019, 08:09 PM
There’s plenty of examples of players who haven’t done the business elsewhere, but just clicked at a certain club. Jim Leighton couldn’t get a game for Dundee, but was absolutely brilliant for hibs and got back into the Scotland team, Scott Allan is another.

I’m not so sure Leighton is a good example given his outstanding time at Aberdeen and fairly successful time at Manchester United. He played well for us and again at Aberdeen when he went back there so proven at several clubs.

lord bunberry
16-08-2019, 08:13 PM
I’m not so sure Leighton is a good example given his outstanding time at Aberdeen and fairly successful time at Manchester United. He played well for us and again at Aberdeen when he went back there so proven at several clubs.
He was rejected by two clubs before joining us though.

PH91
16-08-2019, 08:17 PM
I cant believe people are wanting to get another striker in when we are so desperately needing a midfielder.

Even if shaw goes out on loan, bringing cummings in would increase our wage bill. Those wages would be far better spent elsewhere in the team.

marinello59
16-08-2019, 08:27 PM
He was rejected by two clubs before joining us though.

Aye. But it would be hard to argue we were the one club that was the best fit for him. He had an outstanding career elsewhere.

Smartie
16-08-2019, 08:29 PM
It's referring to Forest's 'Garibaldi Red' shirts. The original Forest team bought twelve red caps to wear in their first game. Named after Italian freedom fighter General Garibaldi and his 'Redshirt' followers.

Thanks for that.

I've never heard them referred to as that before.

Great club Forest, would be good to see them back in the prem.

lord bunberry
16-08-2019, 08:53 PM
Aye. But it would be hard to argue we were the one club that was the best fit for him. He had an outstanding career elsewhere.
I’m basing my argument purely on numbers of clubs who rejected them :greengrin

The 90+2
16-08-2019, 08:56 PM
Not quite the same given that Allan was frozen out. JC has had several chances and hasn’t done the business.

Allan was rubbish at Dundee and Rotherham.

marinello59
16-08-2019, 09:00 PM
Allan was rubbish at Dundee and Rotherham.

I’ve already said I forgot about Rotherham. :greengrin
Was he ‘rubbish’ at Dundee? I’m not so sure he was.

The 90+2
16-08-2019, 09:02 PM
I’ve already said I forgot about Rotherham. :greengrin
Was he ‘rubbish’ at Dundee? I’m not so sure he was.

Fair point, I just seen them as being **** and Allan being part of the team that was ****. I don’t think Dundee fans cared that much he left either.

CathroMustStay
16-08-2019, 09:11 PM
Cummings is a badge-kissing, hun cretin.

Hard 'no' to him ever returning to Easter Road.

stu in nottingham
16-08-2019, 09:11 PM
Thanks for that.

I've never heard them referred to as that before.

Great club Forest, would be good to see them back in the prem.

It's an old name that's become popular again - The Garibaldi Reds. When I began work in the 1970s I'd hear it from older guys that had been fans in the 1940s and 1950s.

There's a lot of evidence to say that the club was founded by Scots. way back. In the early days they played bandy and shinty which are certainly not English games. It's thought that a group of itinerant Scottish workers in Nottingham at the time clubbed together brought their games and formed what became Nottingham Forest Football Club.

22422

DH1875
16-08-2019, 09:12 PM
Allan was rubbish at Dundee and Rotherham.

He wan't rubbish at Dundee though.

The 90+2
16-08-2019, 09:15 PM
He wan't rubbish at Dundee though.

He hardly stood out in a way it would grab the attention of other clubs had he not been brilliant before though.

Here’s Lucy!
16-08-2019, 09:19 PM
Yes, let’s get Jase back please.

He’s not ideal, but we really need a goalscorer.

We know him, he knows us, what’s the problem with even a one year deal to test the water?

marinello59
16-08-2019, 09:22 PM
Yes, let’s get Jase back please.

He’s not ideal, but we really need a goalscorer.

We know him, he knows us, what’s the problem with even a one year deal to test the water?

We ain’t Celtic or Sevco , we can’t afford a one year deal to test the water. We need a striker who will do the business from day one.

DH1875
16-08-2019, 09:32 PM
He hardly stood out in a way it would grab the attention of other clubs had he not been brilliant before though.

He signed a year loan with Dundee and had done enough for us to want him halfway through it. On his Dundee debut he was man of the match and set up 2 goals. In his last match for them he came off the bench to set up the equalizer in a 2-1 win and completely turned the game. Neil McCann was desperate to keep him and only agreed to cancelling the loan after Allan told him he wanted to come to Hibs. He wasn't poor for Dundee at all.

The 90+2
16-08-2019, 09:32 PM
We ain’t Celtic or Sevco , we can’t afford a one year deal to test the water. We need a striker who will do the business from day one.

And Doidge looks that player? We’ve got him for more than one year like it or not. It’s a massive gamble.

Cummings, isn’t.

The 90+2
16-08-2019, 09:33 PM
He signed a year loan with Dundee and had done enough for us to want him halfway through it. On his Dundee debut he was man of the match and set up 2 goals. In his last match for them he came off the bench to set up the equalizer in a 2-1 win and completely turned the game. Neil McCann was desperate to keep him and only agreed to cancelling the loan after Allan told him he wanted to come to Hibs. He wasn't poor for Dundee at all.

He was on the bench plenty before he came back here. So much the fans questioned what McCann was playing at. McCann was happy to get Simon Murray, who helped keep them up.

AgentDaleCooper
16-08-2019, 09:54 PM
He was on the bench plenty before he came back here. So much the fans questioned what McCann was playing at. McCann was happy to get Simon Murray, who helped keep them up.

...and we were happy to get scott back, because he was and is bloody amazing.

superfurryhibby
16-08-2019, 09:55 PM
And Doidge looks that player? We’ve got him for more than one year like it or not. It’s a massive gamble.

Cummings, isn’t.

Are you always so premature?

DH1875
16-08-2019, 09:59 PM
He was on the bench plenty before he came back here. So much the fans questioned what McCann was playing at. McCann was happy to get Simon Murray, who helped keep them up.

In the 24 league games before signing for us he either started or came on in 15 of them. He missed 4 of them through injury so wasn't even in the squad and couldn't play in the 2 games against Celtic. McCann was desperate for him to stay and again, only agreed to let him go when Allan told him personally that he wanted to come to Hibs. Source: Neil McCann :greengrin:wink:.

sixtwo
16-08-2019, 11:15 PM
Sorry ladies, I won’t be able to reply to all comments. To those that criticised my assessment of Doidge, I hope you are right. I hope he is not ( what most of us think he is)

FilipinoHibs
17-08-2019, 02:28 AM
Fair point, I just seen them as being **** and Allan being part of the team that was ****. I don’t think Dundee fans cared that much he left either.

Injury kept him from playing much at Dundee.

MagicSwirlingShip
17-08-2019, 03:26 AM
Absolute no brainer.

Penalty box striker with decent pace to stretch teams. Bring the laddie home