Tierney

[Magpie]

While nothing to do with Hibs, Tierney reminds me a wee bit of John Brownlie while Robertson reminds me a wee bit of Bobby Duncan neither of the two are as good as the former Hibs men at the top of their game. Although they both played on opposite wings.
:aok:

I assume Duncan was the better of the two 😉

[calumhibee1]

Which is why his injury record doesn’t ‘speak for itself’, as you claim.

Tierney has played a lot of first team football for such a young player and it’s clearly taken a physical toll on him. Whether he is injury prone or his body just needed to adjust and develop is anyone’s guess.

Whether he was born injury prone or has been overplayed into being injury prone doesn’t change the fact that throughout his career so far he’s still pretty injury prone, so imo his record still does speak for itself regardless of the reason for it.

By that logic you could say *insert name here* isn’t injury prone, they just get injured a lot in the winter or they just get injured in plastic pitches, their body just needs to adapt. Whilst it may be true, they’re still injury prone if they keep getting injured. If their body adapts in the future then I’m sure you could say they’re no longer injury prone.

[RyeSloan]

Whether he was born injury prone or has been overplayed into being injury prone doesn’t change the fact that throughout his career so far he’s still pretty injury prone, so imo his record still does speak for itself regardless of the reason for it.

By that logic you could say *insert name here* isn’t injury prone, they just get injured a lot in the winter or they just get injured in plastic pitches, their body just needs to adapt. Whilst it may be true, they’re still injury prone if they keep getting injured.

On the flip side you can look at his number of appearances in the time he’s been playing and say that really he’s not that injury prone...

Season ‘16 - 33
Season ‘17 - 40
Season ‘18 - 55
Season ‘19 - 40
Season ‘20 - 24
Season ‘21 - 22 (and counting)

Not exactly the number of appearances that you would put down next to a treatment table addict is it?

[calumhibee1]

On the flip side you can look at his number of appearances in the time he’s been playing and say that really he’s not that injury prone...

Season ‘16 - 33
Season ‘17 - 40
Season ‘18 - 55
Season ‘19 - 40
Season ‘20 - 24
Season ‘21 - 22 (and counting)

Not exactly the number of appearances that you would put down next to a treatment table addict is it?

Being injured means you’re not going to be able to play. Whilst there’s no doubting he’s played lots of football, surely the best indicator of how often someone is injured and therefore how injury prone they are is their injuries, the amount of them and their periods out of the game? :confused:

Anyway, he’s put together a decent run this season. Hopefully it continues.

[RyeSloan]

Being injured means you’re not going to be able to play. Whilst there’s no doubting he’s played lots of football, surely the best indicator of how often someone is injured and therefore how injury prone they are is their injuries, the amount of them and their periods out of the game? :confused:

Anyway, he’s put together a decent run this season. Hopefully it continues.

Well exactly.

Look at his appearances and you’ll see that actually he can’t have been out of the game for too long very often or he wouldn’t have so many appearances over such a short time! He’s averaging over 35 games a season...you can’t do that and be Mr injury prone at the same time.

Anyway as you say let’s hope he continues his current form, he’s been great to watch the last few games that’s for sure.

[calumhibee1]

Well exactly.

Look at his appearances and you’ll see that actually he can’t have been out of the game for too long very often or he wouldn’t have so many appearances over such a short time! He’s averaging over 35 games a season...you can’t do that and be Mr injury prone at the same time.

Anyway as you say let’s hope he continues his current form, he’s been great to watch the last few games that’s for sure.

You can do that when the teams you play for play around 60 games most seasons. Playing 35 games in a season for Celtic is proportionately similar to playing around 25-30 games or so for Hibs each season. To put that into perspective, Dylan played on average around 30 games per season at Hibs. Dylan was also injury prone.

I’ve said it already on this thread btw, I wish the guy no harm and I actually think he comes across a decent guy - I’d be delighted for him if he could stay fit going forward

[ekhibee]

Not trying to be smart, but standby what I said
I think he’s one of the best players who’s left Scotland in the last 20 years
Absolutely fantastic player and he’s a winner too

This.

[jacomo]

Whether he was born injury prone or has been overplayed into being injury prone doesn’t change the fact that throughout his career so far he’s still pretty injury prone, so imo his record still does speak for itself regardless of the reason for it.

By that logic you could say *insert name here* isn’t injury prone, they just get injured a lot in the winter or they just get injured in plastic pitches, their body just needs to adapt. Whilst it may be true, they’re still injury prone if they keep getting injured. If their body adapts in the future then I’m sure you could say they’re no longer injury prone.


This is a lot of nonsense but I’ll leave you to it.

[blackpoolhibs]

Let's clear this up, is Tierney injury prone or not? :confused:


Mr creepy. :faf:

[calumhibee1]

This is a lot of nonsense but I’ll leave you to it.

Ah, an expert insight.

Care to explain why it’s nonsense? As I said above, Tierney played a similar percentage of games at Celtic as Dylan did at Hibs. I presume you wouldn’t class Dylan as injury prone in that case?

Your logic for him not being injury prone is that his body ‘might just need to adjust’. Your basing him not being injury prone on a ‘might’ for the future rather than looking at the fact he’s had numerous different long term injuries and missed somewhere in and around the 75 games mark by the time he was 22 - again, through numerous different injuries. He also went nearly 2 years without playing for Scotland - again, because of injuries.

[ekhibee]

Ah, an expert insight.

Care to explain why it’s nonsense? As I said above, Tierney played a similar percentage of games at Celtic as Dylan did at Hibs. I presume you wouldn’t class Dylan as injury prone in that case?

Your logic for him not being injury prone is that his body ‘might just need to adjust’. Your basing him not being injury prone on a ‘might’ for the future rather than looking at the fact he’s had numerous different long term injuries and missed somewhere in and around the 75 games mark by the time he was 22 - again, through numerous different injuries. He also went nearly 2 years without playing for Scotland - again, because of injuries.

Why don't you continue this argument with yourself, it doesn't seem as if that many people are actually interested although admittedly I have taken the time to comment.

[calumhibee1]

Why don't you continue this argument with yourself, it doesn't seem as if that many people are actually interested although admittedly I have taken the time to comment.

Yup, nobody is interested. Apart from all the people that have put forward their opinions. Yourself included. :aok:

I’ll continue the discussion with anyone that would like to discuss it. And whilst I do that, you could always have a think about the purpose of a forum. Yes, that’s right. To discuss topics and give your opinion on them. Exactly as is going on here.

[EI255]

Oli McBurnie broke the record just last week for £20M.£20m they will never recoup.

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[Hibiza]

Tierney is just fantastic. On his way to being an Arsenal legend.

[HoboHarry]

Arguing about whether Tierney or Robertson is better is the poster child for two bald guys fighting over a comb. Both are superb, I only wish that one of them was a right back instead of both being left backs......

[calumhibee1]

Arguing about whether Tierney or Robertson is better is the poster child for two bald guys fighting over a comb. Both are superb, I only wish that one of them was a right back instead of both being left backs......

How very Scotland to have two very good players in the same position and it to be about the least ‘match winning’ position on the pitch :agree:

Can we not produce a striker at that level please?

[MagicSwirlingShip]

How very Scotland to have two very good players in the same position and it to be about the least ‘match winning’ position on the pitch :agree:

Can we not produce a striker at that level please?

I like Tierney in LCB of a back three (or five) with Robertson more advanced wing back. They can always dovetail between the positions also. Certainly that’s how I would use them If I was Scotland gaffer.

[jacomo]

Ah, an expert insight.

Care to explain why it’s nonsense? As I said above, Tierney played a similar percentage of games at Celtic as Dylan did at Hibs. I presume you wouldn’t class Dylan as injury prone in that case?

Your logic for him not being injury prone is that his body ‘might just need to adjust’. Your basing him not being injury prone on a ‘might’ for the future rather than looking at the fact he’s had numerous different long term injuries and missed somewhere in and around the 75 games mark by the time he was 22 - again, through numerous different injuries. He also went nearly 2 years without playing for Scotland - again, because of injuries.


Well, I’ve been through this already, so it would be better if you had just read this the first time, but here goes...

Tierney left Celtc when he was 22. He’d already played a lot of first team football. He’d also had some significant injuries.

It’s not unusual for young players to get a lot of injuries if they make an early breakthrough into the first team. The question is, will this continue throughout their career, or was it just their body adjusting to the demands of top level sport?

His lay off at Arsenal was because he landed badly and dislocated his shoulder - an unfortunate incident, not something you could say shows a propensity for injury.

To say Tierney is ‘injury prone’ is to say he is more likely than other players to get injured in the future. At this stage, I would say it’s impossible to say, for the reasons given above.

Happy now?

[calumhibee1]

Well, I’ve been through this already, so it would be better if you had just read this the first time, but here goes...

Tierney left Celtc when he was 22. He’d already played a lot of first team football. He’d also had some significant injuries.

It’s not unusual for young players to get a lot of injuries if they make an early breakthrough into the first team. The question is, will this continue throughout their career, or was it just their body adjusting to the demands of top level sport?

His lay off at Arsenal was because he landed badly and dislocated his shoulder - an unfortunate incident, not something you could say shows a propensity for injury.

To say Tierney is ‘injury prone’ is to say he is more likely than other players to get injured in the future. At this stage, I would say it’s impossible to say, for the reasons given above.

Happy now?

It’s impossible to say whether any player is going to get injured again in future. It doesn’t mean nobody can be called injury prone.

Imo Tierney is ‘injury prone’ because all the evidence has shown he’s prone to injury - hence the fact he’s had lots of unrelated injuries and missed not far off 100 games for club and country already. I’ll base calling him injury prone on evidence of him missing loads of games, you can say he’s not based on the fact he might become more robust in future and we can disagree.

[jacomo]

It’s impossible to say whether any player is going to get injured again in future. It doesn’t mean nobody can be called injury prone.

Imo Tierney is ‘injury prone’ because all the evidence has shown he’s prone to injury - hence the fact he’s had lots of unrelated injuries and missed not far off 100 games for club and country already. I’ll base calling him injury prone on evidence of him missing loads of games, you can say he’s not based on the fact he might become more robust in future and we can disagree.


You’re making me dizzy but fair enough.

[NOLA]

Tierney is a very good player. Will be one of the best full backs in the world in 18 months time.

He's had injuries but it's unfair to say he's a crock. He's played 230 games and he's only 23.

He’s probably played too much football for his age if that makes sense

[blackpoolhibs]

He’s probably played too much football for his age if that makes sense

How can that be the case if he's injured most of the time?:wink:

[NOLA]

How can that be the case if he's injured most of the time?:wink:

Aye right enough he should be well rested [emoji3]

[WeeRussell]

I didn’t used to.. but I think I prefer Tierney of the two now.

Obviously both very good left backs though.

[Magpie]

Rested tonight as a precaution due to muscle tightness.

[blackpoolhibs]

Rested tonight as a precaution due to muscle tightness.

FFS he is another sick note, I might call him Darren Anderton soon.

[Greenbeard]

He’s probably played too much football for his age if that makes sense

Why say it if you are unsure it makes sense?

[Lancs Harp]

Why say it if you are unsure it makes sense?

Its a message board mate its what we do.

[Hiber-nation]

Arsenal are certainly missing him tonight. Although I admit that I spent half the first half asleep.

[Magpie]

Tierney misses out due to his discomfort in his leg this evening.

[MWHIBBIES]

Oh god, can we not do this every time he stubs his toe

[Sylar]

Some decent young players in this Arsenal team but some deadwood on display too.

Really impressed by how easily Armstrong is dominating down Southampton's left side - going past the Arsenal defence with ease.

[Magpie]

Oh god, can we not do this every time he stubs his toe

No need to get so angry mate.

[Sammy7nil]

Some decent young players in this Arsenal team but some deadwood on display too.

Really impressed by how easily Armstrong is dominating down Southampton's left side - going past the Arsenal defence with ease.

This did not age well 😂

[hibbysam]

Hopefully he’s fully fit for March and the summer, that’s all I really care about.

[MWHIBBIES]

This did not age well 😂

Aged like milk.

[Allez Hibs]

Best Scottish left back just now.

[Magpie]

Now missed Arsenal’s last 5 games.

[lord bunberry]

Now missed Arsenal’s last 5 games.
What’s the obsession on here with his injury record?

[calumhibee1]

Now missed Arsenal’s last 5 games.

Had been doing well as well.

[calumhibee1]

Potentially out for the rest of the season, definitely out for the majority of it.

Should be due back in time for the Euros though if he doesn’t have any further setbacks. He’s been streets ahead of Robertson for Scotland so hopefully he recovers.

[Magpie]

Potentially out for the rest of the season, definitely out for the majority of it.

Should be due back in time for the Euros though if he doesn’t have any further setbacks. He’s been streets ahead of Robertson for Scotland so hopefully he recovers.

Surely not another injury?

[JimBHibees]

Very injury prone thought he was excellent in recent internationals as well.

[calumhibee1]

Surely not another injury?

Damage to his left knee apparently.

[calumhibee1]

Very injury prone thought he was excellent in recent internationals as well.

He was :agree:

Could do with him fit for the euros.

[JimBHibees]

He was :agree:

Could do with him fit for the euros.

Absolutely SSN reporting up to 6 to 8 weeks out so hopefully back for Euros but will be tight.

[Iain G]

Best Scottish left back just now.

Best Scottish centre back as well!

[calumhibee1]

Tierney back into training with Arsenal. Should give him plenty time to get fit for the Euros!

Apparently the surgery he was supposed to be having didn’t end up being required.

[jacomo]

Tierney back into training with Arsenal. Should give him plenty time to get fit for the Euros!

Apparently the surgery he was supposed to be having didn’t end up being required.


Good news!

[Paulie Walnuts]

Out for the season and I’d imagine the World Cup playoff games.

A blow for Scotland.

[Brummie_Hibs]

Out for the season and I’d imagine the World Cup playoff games.

A blow for Scotland.
Patterson also looking doubtful for June games.

Cadden may well be called up, at least for cover for O'Donnell who I expect would be Patterson's replacement.

[A Hi-Bee]

Patterson also looking doubtful for June games.

Cadden may well be called up, at least for cover for O'Donnell who I expect would be Patterson's replacement.

Are, we still thinking that a team from Ukraine is going to be able to show up in June.

[1van Sprou7e]

Are, we still thinking that a team from Ukraine is going to be able to show up in June.

Probably not but we still need to beat wales

[Speedy]

Patterson also looking doubtful for June games.

Cadden may well be called up, at least for cover for O'Donnell who I expect would be Patterson's replacement.

O'Donnell and Hickey fighting for rwb spot

[He's here!]

Probably not but we still need to beat wales

Wales and Scotland should simply step aside and give the remaining spot to Ukraine. Even though I'm against the World Cup taking place in Qatar at all, this at least would be an honourable gesture thst would be widely applauded.

[JimBHibees]

Wales and Scotland should simply step aside and give the remaining spot to Ukraine. Even though I'm against the World Cup taking place in Qatar at all, this at least would be an honourable gesture thst would be widely applauded.

Absolutely should not

[CapitalGreen]

Wales and Scotland should simply step aside and give the remaining spot to Ukraine. Even though I'm against the World Cup taking place in Qatar at all, this at least would be an honourable gesture thst would be widely applauded.

Should their group opponents once they’re at the World Cup also step aside? What about their knockout round opponents after that giving them a free run to the final?

[mcohibs]

Wales and Scotland should simply step aside and give the remaining spot to Ukraine. Even though I'm against the World Cup taking place in Qatar at all, this at least would be an honourable gesture thst would be widely applauded.

Nah. May as well let them win the world cup if we do that.

[SteveHFC]

Wales and Scotland should simply step aside and give the remaining spot to Ukraine. Even though I'm against the World Cup taking place in Qatar at all, this at least would be an honourable gesture thst would be widely applauded.

Eh no we should not.

[HoboHarry]

Wales and Scotland should simply step aside and give the remaining spot to Ukraine. Even though I'm against the World Cup taking place in Qatar at all, this at least would be an honourable gesture thst would be widely applauded.

Are you at the wind up or have you been drinking for hours and hours?