Colts vs Elgin

[H18 SFR]

Can any of Porteous, Mackie, Murray or Shaw playvon Tuesday?

[Billy Whizz]

Can any of Porteous, Mackie, Murray or Shaw playvon Tuesday?

We can play 2 overage players. Believe players born in 1999 or younger can play automatically. Porteous and Murray are 1999 players so can both play.

Oli, Ben Stirling, Sadiki and and Mackie would be both overage players if selected. That’s 3 of last seasons back 4 not available!

Be interesting to see who we select as our overage players, not sure how fit Paddy Martin is, went off injured against Linlithgow Rose a few weeks ago, not sure who’s our under 18 goalie

Going to be a tough match, Hibs haven’t won a game in the Challenge Cup yet, but think the coaches will be looking to get a wee run this season, to challenge the young boys against stronger opposition

Free caramel water for every fan who comes along

[Allant1981]

Can any of Porteous, Mackie, Murray or Shaw playvon Tuesday?

Sure the manager has said porteous will be playing

[Billy Whizz]

It would be great if we could get a decent crowd for this

Also get a chance to see some of our new group of young players. Some really talented individuals in this young group

[Billy Whizz]

Should have added, the likes of Campbell, Block and Gullan can also play too

[Iggy Pope]

Yer man the stadium announcer seemed to suggest at HT yesterday we might see David Gray and Lewis Stevenson. I was hearing things I think.

[Billy Whizz]

Yer man the stadium announcer seemed to suggest at HT yesterday we might see David Gray and Lewis Stevenson. I was hearing things I think.

Hecky said in his pre St mirren match interview, you might see Slivka and Gray I think

[hibee_girl]

Yer man the stadium announcer seemed to suggest at HT yesterday we might see David Gray and Lewis Stevenson. I was hearing things I think.

You weren't hearing things, Hibs tweeted the other day that they might be involved along with Porteous and Slivka


Hibernian FC
@HibernianFC
📈| Paul also confirmed that David Gray, Lewis Stevenson, Ryan Porteous and Vykintas Slivka are all closing in on first-team returns.

💚 They could feature for the Development Squad in their Tunnock's Caramel Wafer Cup tie with Elgin City on Tuesday night at Easter Road.

[Iggy Pope]

You weren't hearing things, Hibs tweeted the other day that they might be involved along with Porteous and Slivka


Hibernian FC
@HibernianFC
📈| Paul also confirmed that David Gray, Lewis Stevenson, Ryan Porteous and Vykintas Slivka are all closing in on first-team returns.

💚 They could feature for the Development Squad in their Tunnock's Caramel Wafer Cup tie with Elgin City on Tuesday night at Easter Road.

Ta.
Not sure Slivka looks like he needs the game but the man at the wheel knows better than me.

[H18 SFR]

Many heading along to this, tempted even though I've a 2 hour drive.

[Bishop Hibee]

I’m going with my youngest brother. Booked before I even knew about the free Caramel wafer!

[Robbo6-2]

If Middleton sings in time maybe he could get a run out as he s young enough not to be counted as over aged player.

[Since452]

If Porteous doesn't count as an over age player I'd play Doidge and Vela to give them more game time

[hibbyfraelibby]

If Middleton sings in time maybe he could get a run out as he s young enough not to be counted as over aged player.

He might sing in time but will he be in tune albeit on a perfect pitch

[Gmack7]

can our on loan youngsters like Gallantes and yates play in this game?

[Billy Whizz]

can our on loan youngsters like Gallantes and yates play in this game?

All can

[J-C]

If Porteous doesn't count as an over age player I'd play Doidge and Vela to give them more game time

Heckingbottom was talking about Gray and possibly Stevenson needing game time.

[Gmack7]

All can

Thanks Billy, Do you think these 2 in particular will play? My son played with Calum and against Yrik ( not an easy task for a 15 year old full back) so I'd like to see how they get on as well as the rest of the colts side.

[Ardenttwo]

If Middleton sings in time maybe he could get a run out as he s young enough not to be counted as over aged player.

What song ?

[GreenCastle]

Is it donation at the gate ?

I assume West Lower only open ?

[hibee_girl]

Is it donation at the gate ?

I assume West Lower only open ?

Ticket info here - http://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/news/10163

[Billy Whizz]

Ticket info here - http://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/news/10163

Presume TO will be open too?

[GreenCastle]

Ticket info here - http://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/news/10163

£10 entry :bitchy: for adults

Should be £5 max for ST holders.

[hibee_girl]

£10 entry :bitchy: for adults

Should be £5 max for ST holders.

I’m sure I saw someone on Twitter say the competition set the prices, not Hibs

[GreenCastle]

I’m sure I saw someone on Twitter say the competition set the prices, not Hibs

Just did a quick search and Kelty Hearts are charging £7 entry for adults.

£10 is crap

[CMurdoch]

£10 entry :bitchy: for adults

Should be £5 max for ST holders.

Ridiculous pricing.
I note pricing for the Hearts game at Albion Rovers is £6 & £3

[hibbyfraelibby]

[QUOTE=Billy Whizz;5873876]Presume TO will be open

If it were then surely they would have said so. Looks like they dont want cash on the night from the statement. Hope they open the pod for collection otherwise those with big phones might not get in😈😈😈

[Future17]

Presume TO will be open too?

"Collection from Hibernian" is an option when purchasing, so I assume so.

[GreenCastle]

Ridiculous pricing.
I note pricing for the Hearts game at Albion Rovers is £6 & £3

Joke

[Since452]

£10 entry :bitchy: for adults

Should be £5 max for ST holders.

Aye but you get a free Caramel Wafer

[Billy Whizz]

Goes straight to penalties if it’s a draw after 90 mins, no extra time tonight

[Billy Whizz]

Rae, Block, Yeats, Porteous, Doig, Campbell, Galantes, Slivka, Shaw, Murray, Gullan.

Subs: Woods, Elder, Leddie, Hodge.

[hibee_girl]

Rae, Block, Yeats, Porteous, Doig, Campbell, Galantes, Slivka, Shaw, Murray, Gullan.

Subs: Woods, Elder, Leddie, Hodge.

No Stevenson or Gray then

[04Sauzee]

Rae, Block, Yeats, Porteous, Doig, Campbell, Galantes, Slivka, Shaw, Murray, Gullan.

Subs: Woods, Elder, Leddie, Hodge.

Is our squad a bit thin with only 4 subs and a few first team players listed?

[Bishop Hibee]

I was told the goalie could be someone drafted in due to injury to our regular keeper?

[IncredibleHibee]

If Porteous doesn't count as an over age player I'd play Doidge and Vela to give them more game time

Doidge May find his level 👀

[GreenCastle]

Doidge May find his level 👀

Bad chat.

Interesting to see how Porto, Murray and Slivka play.

Home game and we can only name 4 subs ??

[BlackSheep]

Doidge May find his level 👀

Doidge isn’t playing! It’s Josh Doig, young lad we signed from Hearts.

[SideBurns]

I was told the goalie could be someone drafted in due to injury to our regular keeper?

New goalie is Josh Rae, formerly with Celtic, Hamilton & Leeds, according to the website.

Wonder if he's any relation to slightly bonkers 80s goalie Robin Rae?

[Davy Mac]

New goalie is Josh Rae, formerly with Celtic, Hamilton & Leeds, according to the website.

Wonder if he's any relation to slightly bonkers 80s goalie Robin Rae?

The said goalie on a night out, broke into a bus or a taxi and drove the guys home? Memory is a bit iffy with this one, and did he not get emptied for it?

[w pilton hibby]

New goalie is Josh Rae, formerly with Celtic, Hamilton & Leeds, according to the website.

Wonder if he's any relation to slightly bonkers 80s goalie Robin Rae?

Joshua Rae (born 17 October 2000) is a Scottish footballer who played as a keeper for Leeds United.

Youth Career
Started his career with Hamilton Academical.

Made his Hamilton Under-20’s debut at just 13-years-old, their youngest ever player at that level.

Had a trial at Atletico Madrid in 2014.

Turned down Everton to sign for Celtic in March 2014.

Moved to Leeds United in July 2017.

Had a trial with Blackburn Rovers in June 2019.

[SideBurns]

The said goalie on a night out, broke into a bus or a taxi and drove the guys home? Memory is a bit iffy with this one, and did he not get emptied for it?

That's the boy. Sure it was the night before he was due to start in goal at Dens Park, due to an injury to either Jim MacArthur or Alan Rough (my memory is hazy about this).

Radio Rental anyway.

[leither17]

1-0 to the young team

[Billy Whizz]

1-0 Hibs after 2 mins
Lovely free kick from Hammer, and Porteous heads home

[mim]

1-0 Hibs Colts

[HIBERNIAN-0762]

Welcome back big Porty 😀👍

[SquashedFrogg]

You’ve certainly found yours

👍

[Billy Whizz]

1-1 after a corner

[tamig]

The said goalie on a night out, broke into a bus or a taxi and drove the guys home? Memory is a bit iffy with this one, and did he not get emptied for it?

He used to like driving cars that didn’t belong to him did Robin. I remember seeing him reeking in Misty’s nightclub in Porty back in the day. Roughie was injured and the bold Robin started the game the next day. Ended up being a prolific striker in the juniors.

[CMurdoch]

New goalie is Josh Rae, formerly with Celtic, Hamilton & Leeds, according to the website.

Wonder if he's any relation to slightly bonkers 80s goalie Robin Rae?

For only $45 you could own your own photo of the bold Robin

Only 1 left!!!

https://www.amazon.com/Vintage-photo-Robin-Scottish-goalkeeper/dp/B07JJYNHX2

:wink:

[Twiglet]

Who's the Hibs number 6?

[04Sauzee]

Who's the Hibs number 6?

Isn't it Josh Campbell?

[Sir David Gray]

1-1 after a corner

Scored by the thug who should have been sent off the other week in the League Cup tie.

[Billy Whizz]

2-1 Hibs, great move and Hanmer slots home
Hibs in top at the moment

[HibbyAndy]

2-1 Hibs, great move and Hanmer slots home
Hibs in top at the moment

Who is hammer ?:confused:

[Onceinawhile]

Who is hammer ?:confused:

Gullan I think

[Billy Whizz]

2-2, good save by Rae and Sutherland shoots home

[04Sauzee]

2-1 Hibs, great move and Hanmer slots home
Hibs in top at the moment

Surprised Gullan didn't get any time during the preseason

[Speedway]

Who is hammer ?:confused:

Gullan

[xyz23jc]

Surprised Gullan didn't get any time during the preseason

Did he no get on for the last few minutes against Newcastle?

[Scorrie]

2 - 3

Blimey our defence sounds a bit porous ...

[04Sauzee]

Did he no get on for the last few minutes against Newcastle?

He did, was thinking more Dunfermline etc where stirling and Haldiki were getting game time

[007]

Any onside goals disallowed yet?

[xyz23jc]

Any onside goals disallowed yet?

:greengrin:thumbsup:

[RoxburghHibs]

Who is hammer ?:confused:

Was about to ask the same as never heard that before.

[Hibby soldier]

Doidge May find his level 👀


Comment over the top

not called for........

[Wheat Hound]

Scored by the thug who should have been sent off the other week in the League Cup tie.

Aye and he's been acting the thug again tonight. Hopefully he gets Porto'd soon.

[Hermit Crab]

4 first team players on? Losing 2-3? :shocked:

[RoxburghHibs]

4 first team players on? Losing 2-3? :shocked:

7 youngsters and giving a senior team a good game.

[JimBHibees]

4 first team players on? Losing 2-3? :shocked:

Not a huge surprise I wouldn't have thought. Elgin looked half decent imo.

[RoxburghHibs]

Comment over the top

not called for........

Strange as he isn’t even listed?

[brog]

7 youngsters and giving a senior team a good game.

10 youngsters.

[Hiber-nation]

4 first team players on? Losing 2-3? :shocked:

Did you not notice that Elgin were favourites? Not sure why you're so shocked.

[Since452]

Who is hammer ?:confused:

Was thinking the same

[eastcoasthibby]

Oli Shaw looks like he is lacking in confidence showing nothing around the box and being beaten very easily to balls by there defenders ..had couple of decent touches, but not looking great when he should be showing up in these games

[Viva_Palmeiras]

Was thinking the same

Gullan no?

[RoxburghHibs]

10 youngsters.

Good point

[GreenCastle]

What formation we playing and who is playing where ?

[Diclonius]

Hecky out for some reason!

[tamig]

Hecky out for some reason!

Injured?

[brydekirk]

Just did a quick search and Kelty Hearts are charging £7 entry for adults.

£10 is crap

You only get what you pay for !

[RoxburghHibs]

Hecky out for some reason!

Who is Hecky?

[Since452]

Hecky out for some reason!

Trapped outside?

[Since452]

Rae saves penalty after his own foul

[007]

Trapped outside?

:faf:

[RoxburghHibs]

3-3 penalty

[xyz23jc]

3 - 3

Sounds like some game! Anywhere online to listen to the game? :agree:

[007]

Plenty of goals anyway so seems like you're getting your money's worth. What size is the crowd?

[RoxburghHibs]

89 mins still 3-3
Does this go straight to pens?

[Diclonius]

Hecky in!

[RoxburghHibs]

4-3 Elgin 90 + 2

[H18 SFR]

Sounds a brilliant game. Gutting to lose it at the death.

[RoxburghHibs]

FT 4-3 to Elgin

A good effort by the youngsters against one of league 2s better teams.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

4-3 Elgin 90 + 2

Any Elgin fans on the pitch?

[StevieHendo]

FT 4-3 to Elgin

A good effort by the youngsters against one of league 2s better teams.

Better teams? 2nd favourites to finish bottom lol but yeah was good effort

[Wheat Hound]

Some calamitous defending by our team tonight though to be fair apart from Porto it comprised a midfielder at rb, new 17yr old in Doig and keeper signed only today.

[RoxburghHibs]

Better teams? 2nd favourites to finish bottom lol but yeah was good effort

Elgin will be in play-offs or thereabouts. My nephew plays in that league and says they have a good team.

[500miles]

Lapses in concentration by the defence let us down badly. On the ball, we looked fluid and played some nice stuff.

[GreenCastle]

Every time we scored they seemed to score pretty quick after ??

[RoxburghHibs]

Lapses in concentration by the defence let us down badly. On the ball, we looked fluid and played some nice stuff.

Many fans there tonight?

[ElginHibbie]

Better teams? 2nd favourites to finish bottom lol but yeah was good effort

Having seen many an Elgin team this is the best they’ve been in years and as long a couple key players avoid injuries they’ll be competing for play offs

[Sir David Gray]

4-3 Elgin 90 + 2

Hope the Elgin disabled supporters avoided injury.

[ElginHibbie]

Really enjoyed that, Galantes especially looked impressive I thought

[Paisley Hibby]

U21s through
Ross County 3-2
Hearts 4-1
Rangers 2-1
St Mirren 1-0
Aberdeen U21 lost 6-0 to Highland League side Brora Rangers

[jgl07]

Did you not notice that Elgin were favourites? Not sure why you're so shocked.
Synthetic outrage?

[G B Young]

Really enjoyed that, Galantes especially looked impressive I thought

Very entertaining game. Would like to see Gullan make his mark in the first team this season.

Elgin look worth a bet for promotion.

[EI255]

Hope the Elgin disabled supporters avoided injury.They better hope they avoid Sevco in the next round then.

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[500miles]

Many fans there tonight?

Not particularly busy, although I didn't get a wafer!

[Bishop Hibee]

I got a wafer! Enjoyable game. I thought Gullan and Block, who played right back when normally midfield, looked promising. Shaw was disappointing though. Needs to do far more.

[ElginHibbie]

I got a wafer! Enjoyable game. I thought Gullan and Block, who played right back when normally midfield, looked promising. Shaw was disappointing though. Needs to do far more.

It was only a few minuted but I thought he looked a lot better after scoring his penalty, seemed to give him more confidence

[Billy Whizz]

It was only a few minuted but I thought he looked a lot better after scoring his penalty, seemed to give him more confidence

Oli just needed a goal, hopefully that kick starts his season

[Squirrel 1875]

Sounds like we need to sign another striker.

[The_Horde]

Oli just needed a goal, hopefully that kick starts his season

Heard that said about him loads in the last year. Not exactly showing the character of a first team striker if that's the case so often.

[Billy Whizz]

Heard that said about him loads in the last year. Not exactly showing the character of a first team striker if that's the case so often.

Have you never heard that all strikers have goal droughts, and it can have an effect on their confidence. Sometimes even a tap in can do wonders

[Here’s Lucy!]

Oli just needed a goal, hopefully that kick starts his season

Heard it before.

He needs to improve in general.

[Here’s Lucy!]

Have you never heard that all strikers have goal droughts, and it can have an effect on their confidence. Sometimes even a tap in can do wonders

Hope you're right, Billy. :thumbsup:

[my left peg]

Thoroughly enjoyed the game,hibs played some nice football,but were a bit calamitous at the back,in saying that I thought the young left back ,Callum Yates had a great game.


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[GreenCastle]

So we basically need to develop more defenders and keepers ?

Back unit had never played together so no wonder they were all over the place.

Still unsure why only 4 subs on bench too..could we not bring younger players up for experience ?

[Baldy Foghorn]

Thoroughly enjoyed the game,hibs played some nice football,but were a bit calamitous at the back,in saying that I thought the young left back ,Callum Yates had a great game.


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Agreed, Yates and Block did well.

[Mr_F]

I got a wafer! Enjoyable game. I thought Gullan and Block, who played right back when normally midfield, looked promising. Shaw was disappointing though. Needs to do far more.

OS wouldn’t get a game for Elgin.

Needs binned asap

[Wheat Hound]

Great to see Porteous back and that he's lost none of the fire in his belly!

Bit disappointed Campbell and Slivka didnt exert themselves more in the middle of the park.

Gullan impressed again and should be pushing to get a bench place most weeks in the 1st team.

A few players struggled with the physicality of the game.

[007]

Sounds like we need to sign another striker.

Striker?

https://youtu.be/OqLjBJPi1Jw

[The_Horde]

Have you never heard that all strikers have goal droughts, and it can have an effect on their confidence. Sometimes even a tap in can do wonders

Yes. I have heard of that ridiculous football cliche.


A goal drought is something that happens to 20 goal a season strikers and doesn't normally effect their general play.

Not youngsters who are still nowhere near to holding down a place in the team, let alone scoring 20 goals.

[Up The Bracket]

Really impressed with Tommy Block and Porteous was on a different level to everyone on the park (including Slivka) by a country mile.

[IncredibleHibee]

You’ve certainly found yours

😂 it may be an unpopular opinion atm but i’ll Resurfaced after he’s turfed out as not good enough to say ‘I told you so’ 😜

[SquashedFrogg]

😂 it may be an unpopular opinion atm but i’ll Resurfaced after he’s turfed out as not good enough to say ‘I told you so’ 😜

Is this 2 separate posts combined?

[Franck Stanton]

😂 it may be an unpopular opinion atm but i’ll Resurfaced after he’s turfed out as not good enough to say ‘I told you so’ 😜

You may well be proven right but as he has only played a couple of games imo it is far too early to have formed the opinion you seem to have of his ability. Give the boy a break.

[HoboHarry]

OS wouldn’t get a game for Elgin.

Needs binned asap
:doh:

[Since452]

Oli just needed a goal, hopefully that kick starts his season

Don't know how many more chances we can give him. He's a passenger at the moment. Need another striker in asap.

[500miles]

Really impressed with Tommy Block and Porteous was on a different level to everyone on the park (including Slivka) by a country mile.

Disagree with your Slivka point, I thought he cruised through the game like Dylan did, and his use of the ball was consistently better than anyone else.

[brog]

OS wouldn’t get a game for Elgin.

Needs binned asap

Wish we could bin posters who constantly criticise our players.

[Clarence]

Wish we could bin posters who constantly criticise our players.

Agree

[Hermit Crab]

Wish we could bin posters who constantly criticise our players.


Wish we would bin players who are consistently poor performers.

[Mr_F]

Wish we could bin posters who constantly criticise our players.

So you reckon he’s up to standard then?!

[RoxburghHibs]

Wish we could bin posters who constantly criticise our players.

:top marks

These posters do no good only harm, especially if they take the same attitide into the stadium on match day.

[bigwheel]

:top marks

These posters do no good only harm, especially if they take the same attitide into the stadium on match day.

Are we really saying that only positive posters are welcome here ??

Isn’t diversity of opinion a good thing ...

Trolling fair enough - but if people don’t like the current state - then surely it’s fair to hear their views

[RoxburghHibs]

Are we really saying that only positive posters are welcome here ??

Isn’t diversity of opinion a good thing ...

Trolling fair enough - but if people don’t like the current state - then surely it’s fair to hear their views

nope not saying that at all :confused:

[Danderhall Hibs]

Wish we would bin players who are consistently poor performers.

We do.

[RoxburghHibs]

We do.


:agree:

[HFC93]

😂 it may be an unpopular opinion atm but i’ll Resurfaced after he’s turfed out as not good enough to say ‘I told you so’ 😜

Having a pop at Doidge in a Hibs U21 v Elgin thread, a game he wasn't involved in, is next level zoomer behaviour. Hibs fans desperate for our own players to fail. I don't get it.

[Heisenberg]

😂 it may be an unpopular opinion atm but i’ll Resurfaced after he’s turfed out as not good enough to say ‘I told you so’ 😜

I’m sure you’ll take it well when it gets constantly chucked back in your face if he actually does succeed at Hibs, which I assume you are hoping happens.

[brog]

So you reckon he’s up to standard then?!


Up to standard for what? To play for Hibs & be an effective striker? The facts certainly suggest so. Oli hasn't started a game since February & that was against Celtc away. He scored in his previous 2 games. He's usually been brought on late in the game to try & rescue a lost cause. He has the best goals to starts ratio of any player at ER, 12/21 & all his goals were from open play. He has 7 U-19 caps & 3 U-21 caps & is still 21 years old. If Oli was playing for another Scottish Club this board would be clamouring to sign him. We all have different opinions, that's fine. It's also fine to criticise players but to suggest we "bin" a young talented player who you haven't seen start a game for 6 months is perverse.

[we are hibs]

Up to standard for what? To play for Hibs & be an effective striker? The facts certainly suggest so. Oli hasn't started a game since February & that was against Celtc away. He scored in his previous 2 games. He's usually been brought on late in the game to try & rescue a lost cause. He has the best goals to starts ratio of any player at ER, 12/21 & all his goals were from open play. He has 7 U-19 caps & 3 U-21 caps & is still 21 years old. If Oli was playing for another Scottish Club this board would be clamouring to sign him. We all have different opinions, that's fine. It's also fine to criticise players but to suggest we "bin" a young talented player who you haven't seen start a game for 6 months is perverse.


Theres a reason he hasnt started for 6 months.

[B.H.F.C]

Up to standard for what? To play for Hibs & be an effective striker? The facts certainly suggest so. Oli hasn't started a game since February & that was against Celtc away. He scored in his previous 2 games. He's usually been brought on late in the game to try & rescue a lost cause. He has the best goals to starts ratio of any player at ER, 12/21 & all his goals were from open play. He has 7 U-19 caps & 3 U-21 caps & is still 21 years old. If Oli was playing for another Scottish Club this board would be clamouring to sign him. We all have different opinions, that's fine. It's also fine to criticise players but to suggest we "bin" a young talented player who you haven't seen start a game for 6 months is perverse.

The fact he hasn’t started a competitive game for 6 months, not even in the league cup group stage, surely says something does it not?

He’s completely stalled development wise - he’s at an age where he needs to play. We have a small squad so we can’t carry players who aren’t contributing.

I don’t think we’d be clamouring to sign a striker who hadn't played for that length of time.

[Weir07]

Up to standard for what? To play for Hibs & be an effective striker? The facts certainly suggest so. Oli hasn't started a game since February & that was against Celtc away. He scored in his previous 2 games. He's usually been brought on late in the game to try & rescue a lost cause. He has the best goals to starts ratio of any player at ER, 12/21 & all his goals were from open play. He has 7 U-19 caps & 3 U-21 caps & is still 21 years old. If Oli was playing for another Scottish Club this board would be clamouring to sign him. We all have different opinions, that's fine. It's also fine to criticise players but to suggest we "bin" a young talented player who you haven't seen start a game for 6 months is perverse.

Spot on mate, find it incredible the amount of stick Oli Shaw gets, he's young and still learning his trade. As the stats you've produce suggest, he's a good player, with lots of potential, worth time and investment. As a support, let's get behind our young players and give them some backing, they are so important to a club of Hibs size.

[Daydreamer]

Spot on mate, find it incredible the amount of stick Oli Shaw gets, he's young and still learning his trade. As the stats you've produce suggest, he's a good player, with lots of potential, worth time and investment. As a support, let's get behind our young players and give them some backing, they are so important to a club of Hibs size.

He's certainly not a young player learning his trade. That's a player who is 16,17 and 18. When he is 19 he should be knocking on the door of the first team like what Porteous was. At 20 he should be in and out of the first team and at 21 he should be a regular. He's learned his trade for the last five year and is 22 in march. I hope the guy starts showing a bit more when he does get his next chance but I'm starting to think that he is not going to push on and be a regular.

[IncredibleHibee]

I’m sure you’ll take it well when it gets constantly chucked back in your face if he actually does succeed at Hibs, which I assume you are hoping happens.

I would be absolutely delighted and the first one to say I was wrong

[brog]

Theres a reason he hasnt started for 6 months.

Yep, & it's because we only play 1 up front & he was competing with a newly signed striker who earned 2 Scotland caps during his time with us. We've supposedly just paid about £300k for a striker who will probably be on the bench most weeks. Should we 'bin' him also?

[brog]

The fact he hasn’t started a competitive game for 6 months, not even in the league cup group stage, surely says something does it not?

He’s completely stalled development wise - he’s at an age where he needs to play. We have a small squad so we can’t carry players who aren’t contributing.

I don’t think we’d be clamouring to sign a striker who hadn't played for that length of time.

If he was at a lesser Scottish Club he would be playing and scoring most weeks,just like Shankland, & we would be clamouring to sign him.

[B.H.F.C]

If he was at a lesser Scottish Club he would be playing and scoring most weeks,just like Shankland, & we would be clamouring to sign him.

Totally hypothetical. Surely we judge him on what he is doing? Which, at the moment, isn’t very much.

He actually had a good start to last season scoring in Europe and the first two league games. He’s going backwards at the moment though.

[Borderhibbie76]

Don't know how many more chances we can give him. He's a passenger at the moment. Need another striker in asap.He gets cut far too much slack on here tbh..yet Doidge gets pelters as does Flo. Not doing enough for me and we deffo need a 3rd striker in the door before the window closes

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[EVENTUALLY]

Up to standard for what? To play for Hibs & be an effective striker? The facts certainly suggest so. Oli hasn't started a game since February & that was against Celtc away. He scored in his previous 2 games. He's usually been brought on late in the game to try & rescue a lost cause. He has the best goals to starts ratio of any player at ER, 12/21 & all his goals were from open play. He has 7 U-19 caps & 3 U-21 caps & is still 21 years old. If Oli was playing for another Scottish Club this board would be clamouring to sign him. We all have different opinions, that's fine. It's also fine to criticise players but to suggest we "bin" a young talented player who you haven't seen start a game for 6 months is perverse.

Agree 100% . In fact IMHO this is possibility the best post I've seen on this board.

[Daydreamer]

If he was at a lesser Scottish Club he would be playing and scoring most weeks,just like Shankland, & we would be clamouring to sign him.

He is'nt and if we want to be a top 4 club playing in semi-finals and finals with Europe every year we must get top 4 strikers. Time will tell very shortly. Shankland is'nt a top four striker that's why he's playing for Dundee United.

[ancient hibee]

The fact he hasn’t started a competitive game for 6 months, not even in the league cup group stage, surely says something does it not?

He’s completely stalled development wise - he’s at an age where he needs to play. We have a small squad so we can’t carry players who aren’t contributing.

I don’t think we’d be clamouring to sign a striker who hadn't played for that length of time.
And yet posters are clamouring to sign Cummings whose appearances and goals over the last 6months have been pretty sporadic.

[Allant1981]

And yet posters are clamouring to sign Cummings whose appearances and goals over the last 6months have been pretty sporadic.

But he scored goals for us in the championship 2 years ago

[Hermit Crab]

But he scored goals for us in the championship 2 years ago


We are not in the Championship now though. Imo he's not good enough.

[Allant1981]

We are not in the Championship now though. Imo he's not good enough.

Yes I know, that was kind of my point, was obviously lost in a message!!!

[The Baldmans Comb]

Great to see Porto back last night and he strolled through the game and while Sunday is a bit to early he is very nearly ready to challenge for a permanent place.

Strange how we see games differently as there were a few young Hibs players out there who looked to me incredibly ordinarily but others were impressed.

Its not fair this level to name them as they are only starting out in their careers and I am not talking about Oli Shaw.

His performance last night was very poor and it really no longer matters what he has done in the past with his goals per game ratio or how much promise he has (or had) nor is it totally a confidence thing.

He is a player going backwards and he seems to be dropping out this managers plans and he doesn't seem to be able to do anything about as being next to anonymous v Elgin is about as bad as it gets.

Its hard to see how he can get decent game time other than an injury to Flo or Doige but on positive side he is bound to get a few chances as a long season unfolds but he must work harder at all aspects of his game.

His body language indicates though he might well benefit from a brand new start elsewhere.