Hibs v Newcastle

[Hermit Crab]

Did he not only get 10 minutes against arbroath? And didnt play against elgin?

Came on in 78th minute. Missed a sitter.

Came on in the 83rd minute v Elgin done nothing.

Came on in the 61st minute v Dunfermline, missed at least 1 sitter.

Theres a reason he doesn't start many games.

[Borderhibbie76]

Ok, he was crap v Arbroath and Elgin. Lesser opposition and still cant do well.He barely got 10 mins in either game??I'm not Shaws biggest fan by any stretch but your bang out of order with your comments...its like u love being negative about your team??

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[Pretty Boy]

Good start to the half by Hibs. Very controlled with the ball.

[worcesterhibby]

Have we made any subs? The radio dont seem to think so but sounded like the announcer was listing subs as he said it

Maxwell is on for Marciano..no other subs confirmed yet

[hibby rae]

Have we made any subs? The radio dont seem to think so but sounded like the announcer was listing subs as he said it

Whittaker, Horgan and Vela on

[Pretty Boy]

Have we made any subs? The radio dont seem to think so but sounded like the announcer was listing subs as he said it

Pretty much the whole team was changed.

Maxwell
Jackson
Whityaker
Doidge
Allan
Vela
Horgan

All on.

[w pilton hibby]

Have we made any subs? The radio dont seem to think so but sounded like the announcer was listing subs as he said it

Marciano, James, Hanlon, Kamberi, Newell, Slivka, Mallan off

Maxwell, Horgan, Allan, Doidge, Whittaker, Jackson, Vela on

[The_Horde]

Whittaker, Horgan and Vela on

We playing with 14 men?

[Allant1981]

Came on in 78th minute. Missed a sitter.

Came on in the 83rd minute v Elgin done nothing.

Came on in the 61st minute v Dunfermline, missed at least 1 sitter.

Theres a reason he doesn't start many games.

Apologies I was thinking of another game where he didnt get on, still not a lot of time to have an impact in the 1st 2 games you mention is it?

[Hermit Crab]

He barely got 10 mins in either game??I'm not Shaws biggest fan by any stretch but your bang out of order with your comments...its like u love being negative about your team??

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So an opinion is out of order because you don't agree with it? :confused:

[Hermit Crab]

Apologies I was thinking of another game where he didnt get on, still not a lot of time to have an impact in the 1st 2 games you mention is it?


What about all the games last season?

[Pretty Boy]

Shaw offside from an Allan pass. Looking straight across the line so poor from him.

[danhibees1875]

What about all the games last season?

Did he not have a very impressive goals to minutes ratio last season?

[Allant1981]

What about all the games last season?

Did he not score about 6/7 goals last season? Not to shabby for a 3rd or 4th choice striker

[worcesterhibby]

Shaw offside from an Allan pass. Looking straight across the line so poor from him.

Both commentators on BBC Newcastle thought he was on and it was a very poor decision.

[Coco Bryce]

Shaw offside from an Allan pass. Looking straight across the line so poor from him.

No he wasn't. It was Doidge that was offside.

[Hermit Crab]

Shaw offside from an Allan pass. Looking straight across the line so poor from him.


In fairness radio said he was on side

[Thegreenside]

Did he not score about 6/7 goals last season? Not to shabby for a 3rd or 4th choice striker

If I recall, stepped up during the period we struggled. Important goals at Hamilton, st Mirren Dundee?

[jgl07]

So an opinion is out of order because you don't agree with it? :confused:

Only if the OP was writing crap. Which he was.

[hibee316]

Yes but Shaw is so bad it was obviously his fault Doidge was offside.
Pretty clear from this angle.

I’m getting the hang of this.

Nailed it! :)

[Pretty Boy]

Great ball by Horgan, Doidge misses from about 7 yards with his head.

Allan looking comfortable since coming in. Shaw and Doidge both working hard, Maxwell looks good with the ball too.

[calumhibee1]

Only if the OP was writing crap. Which he was.

He wasn’t really. Shaw is poor and seems to become less threatening every game he plays.

[Hermit Crab]

Only if the OP was writing crap. Which he was.


Aye ok then...

[Pretty Boy]

Yes but Shaw is so bad it was obviously his fault Doidge was offside.
Pretty clear from this angle.

I’m getting the hang of this.

Gies peace, I made a mistake.

[Pretty Boy]

Only if the OP was writing crap. Which he was.

And again. I made a mistake, no more, no less.

[BILLYHIBS]

He wasn’t really. Shaw is poor and seems to become less threatening every game he plays.

:confused:

Shaw is one of the best young strikers in Europe

[calumhibee1]

:confused:

Shaw is one of the best young strikers in Europe

:greengrin

[blackpoolhibs]

What was he doing there not shooting, should have made it 3

[SquashedFrogg]

Came on in 78th minute. Missed a sitter.

Came on in the 83rd minute v Elgin done nothing.

Came on in the 61st minute v Dunfermline, missed at least 1 sitter.

Theres a reason he doesn't start many games.

Young player. We get you don't rate him. Could provide similar negative lists for every Hibs player if I was that way inclined.

Prefer to be positive supporting my team.

[e2los]

1-2 after 60mins against a potential mid table epl team with a 40 million pound striker.
Friendly or not, got to be pretty good, so far anyway.

[Vault Boy]

Another good start to this half overall. Mackie making better contributions on the ball. Vella and Allan controlled in possession.

[Pretty Boy]

Doidge movement has been really good, a couple of passes just not quite finding him.

[vercol36]

He barely got 10 mins in either game??I'm not Shaws biggest fan by any stretch but your bang out of order with your comments...its like u love being negative about your team??

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‘Bang out of order’ must be the most annoying expression in the world.

[Pretty Boy]

Porteous stripped to come on.

[Hermit Crab]

https://twitter.com/nufc3000/status/1156279160899289088

[BSEJVT]

Shaw may turn out to be either good bad or indifferent.

What I can’t fathom is the apparent glee certain posters take in consistently proclaiming how poor he is.

If it means more to them that there visionary proclamation that the player won’t make it at Hibs is vindicated than him and consequently Hibs doing well then I wonder if supporting Hibs brings them any joy at a all?

[Vault Boy]

Corner from a Whittaker dig. McGregor clearing it from the Newcastle box, must have been confused. 😉

[Hermit Crab]

https://twitter.com/nufc3000/status/1156284105560141829

[The_Horde]

Doidge movement has been really good, a couple of passes just not quite finding him.

He's a very clever striker. His movement is always intelligent.

[Pretty Boy]

Porteous on for McGregor.

[hibee316]

Porteous on for McGregor.

Please don't get injured, please don't get injured...

[Mr Grieves]

Porto!

[Since452]

Hibs have been very decent 2nd half

[Pretty Boy]

Keeper flaps at a corner, Whittaker and Jackson just don't get on to it.

[Vault Boy]

Porteous on for McGregor.

Welcome back Ryan!

[CMac1988]

Vela and Allan showing how effective they can be as a pairing so far. Another good start to the half so far.

[Wee Effen Bee]

Couple of quotes from Radio Newcastle;
"Hibs are inviting trouble with risky passing across the defence"
"The Hibs left back is pushing forward, leaving a massive space in behind which Newcastle should be exploiting more"
"Longstaff is being given too much freedom by the Hibs defenders"
Hopefully Porteous and Jackson can get a run H2.

And they have not said anything positive to quote or are you deliberately ignoring those? As I said, I’m not the only one hearing positive stuff.

[Vault Boy]

Love the applause for Porto on every touch. 👏

Lovely possession from us this half.

[SHODAN]

1-2 against an EPL team after 70 minutes is decent.

[Pretty Boy]

£60M of talent leaving the park.

[Vault Boy]

£60M of talent leaving the park.

Scott Allan hasn't been subbed off?

[Speedway]

1-3

[Pretty Boy]

1-3. Free header from 5 yards. Too much space allowed on the right for the cross to come in and everyone lost the goalscorer.

[Vault Boy]

Jackson has won his battles so far this half.

[wookie70]

3-1 simple cross and a header central 6 yards with no marker. We have played well this half much more even and pressing much more. They are simply a much better team. So good to see Porteous on the park again

[Speedway]

Shaw may turn out to be either good bad or indifferent.

What I can’t fathom is the apparent glee certain posters take in consistently proclaiming how poor he is.

If it means more to them that there visionary proclamation that the player won’t make it at Hibs is vindicated than him and consequently Hibs doing well then I wonder if supporting Hibs brings them any joy at a all?

What makes you say they’re doing it gleefully?

[Allant1981]

To much space again for the goal, yip it's a friendly but hopefully they take notice of this

[Vault Boy]

That was too easy tbh. Vella's man from the looks of it.

[Wee Effen Bee]

“Came on in the 83rd minute v Elgin done nothing.”

This is so laughable! :doh: Lighten up for Christ sake! No wonder you are subjected to so much grief.

[SHODAN]

It's fine, we're going to Carlisle it.

[SteveHFC]

It's fine, we're going to Carlisle it.

This comeback will beat the Battle of Carlisle.

[wookie70]

Great effort Shaw tipped wide by GK

[Vault Boy]

Good effort from Shaw.

[Gypsy King]

He wasn’t really. Shaw is poor and seems to become less threatening every game he plays.

Facts.

[worcesterhibby]

Shaw with a tremendous shot that was heading for the top corner from 25 yards..Commentators very complimentary...write it down Hermit ! :greengrin

[Wee Effen Bee]

I think Crash was providing more accurate quotes than were being reported by other posters.
They aren’t as bad as portrayed by those using their own words.

Cheers BF.

[The_Horde]

Good effort from Shaw.

Story of his career so far?

[Vault Boy]

I'm a big fan of what I've seen from Murray during pre season. I can see him starting a fair few games for us if he keeps it up.

[e2los]

1-2 against an EPL team after 70 minutes is decent.

I was thinking the same.

1-3 against an EPL team after 80 minutes could be a lot worse.


We are not Fort William and don't have Loki Doki as a manager :wink:

[calumhibee1]

Shaw with a tremendous shot that was heading for the top corner from 25 yards..Commentators very complimentary...write it down Hermit ! :greengrin

If that’s what they said then I would turn the radio off now. It was a decent effort.. but it didn’t leave the ground!

[Vault Boy]

Sexy footwork from Allan. Take effort from Murray.

[Vault Boy]

Great play from Doidge. Wins the free kick after a perfect touch. Gullan and Campbell on for Shaw and Murray.

[BSEJVT]

What makes you say they’re doing it gleefully?

What makes you think they are not?

It evident that they are getting their jollies at apparently being proved right

We get that they don’t rate the player but to come and slag him after every appearance and whilst he is still on the park?

We should be bursting for all our players, particularly our young ones to do well, not racing to be the first to proclaim so and so has been terrible again and will never make it

Thing is that player could do much better in future with us and they would never admit it

Once certain folks minds are made up and depite incontrovertible evidence to the contrary they will either still see them as the crap they always believed them to be or wait for the odd aberration to tell the world they were right all along whilst conveniently ignoring similar or worse aberrations from others

Stevenson & Hanlon to name but 2 are the proof positive that this happens

[worcesterhibby]

If that’s what they said then I would turn the radio off now. It was a decent effort.. but it didn’t leave the ground!

Are you suggesting I'm elaborating ? :embarrass

[calumhibee1]

Are you suggesting I'm elaborating ? :embarrass

Whoosh for me :greengrin

[Vault Boy]

Vella penalised for a good tackle.

[Viva_Palmeiras]

What makes you think they are not?

It evident that they are getting their jollies at apparently being proved right

We get that they don’t rate the player but to come and slag him after every appearance and whilst he is still on the park?

We should be bursting for all our players, particularly our young ones to do well, not racing to be the first to proclaim so and so has been terrible again and will never make it

Thing is that player could do much better in future with us and they would never admit it

Once certain folks minds are made up and depite incontrovertible evidence to the contrary they will either still see them as the crap they always believed them to be or wait for the odd aberration to tell the world they were right all along whilst conveniently ignoring similar or worse aberrations from others

Stevenson & Hanlon to name but 2 are the proof positive that this happens

its what I love tuning into .net for.

[we are hibs]

Radio suggesting we are all over the place now

[Vault Boy]

Murphy not penalised for a foul on Mackie, who did play himself into some danger.

[Speedway]

What makes you think they are not?

It evident that they are getting their jollies at apparently being proved right

We get that they don’t rate the player but to come and slag him after every appearance and whilst he is still on the park?

We should be bursting for all our players, particularly our young ones to do well, not racing to be the first to proclaim so and so has been terrible again and will never make it

Thing is that player could do much better in future with us and they would never admit it

Once certain folks minds are made up and depite incontrovertible evidence to the contrary they will either still see them as the crap they always believed them to be or wait for the odd aberration to tell the world they were right all along whilst conveniently ignored similar or worse aberrations from others

Stevenson & Hanlon to name but 2 are the proof positive that this happens

Could it not be that in the same way they, in fact we all, elevate players who aren’t that good to genius level, we also disparage players who aren’t that bad to garbage level?

Same fervour, same desire to win, same disappointment when players don’t perform/impress.

[Allant1981]

Sloppy again at LB letting newcastle in

[Pretty Boy]

1st 20 minutes we were decent and arguably deserved our lead. Newcastle lifted it and we got torn apart a bit at the back. Pu midfield often left the defence, particularly Makcie, very exposed.

2nd half we started well and had a couple of half chances, lots of nice possession, competed well but never really looked like scoring, conceded a poor goal then the game fizzled out a bit from a Hibs point of view, strikes from Shaw and Murray from distance as good as it got from us. We continued to knock the ball about well but there were also a few spells in which we ended up chasing shadows with the sporadic 'ole' from the Newcastle fans saying it all.

Overall a good run out and a fair few positives. Anyone expecting us to win tonight needs to consider the gap in resources.

[beensaidbefore]

What makes you think they are not?

It evident that they are getting their jollies at apparently being proved right

We get that they don’t rate the player but to come and slag him after every appearance and whilst he is still on the park?

We should be bursting for all our players, particularly our young ones to do well, not racing to be the first to proclaim so and so has been terrible again and will never make it

Thing is that player could do much better in future with us and they would never admit it

Once certain folks minds are made up and depite incontrovertible evidence to the contrary they will either still see them as the crap they always believed them to be or wait for the odd aberration to tell the world they were right all along whilst conveniently ignoring similar or worse aberrations from others

Stevenson & Hanlon to name but 2 are the proof positive that this happens

:top marks

[calumhibee1]

Sloppy again at LB letting newcastle in

Mackie has been all over the shop. To be fair he looks knackered.

[KDY Hibs]

I dont get all the negativity towards Shaw, i think he is a great young talent still learning his trade, i think he shows flashes of being able to compete at a higher level!

[Allant1981]

Mackie has been all over the shop. To be fair he looks knackered.

Aye it's not been his best game, just unfortunate we dont have another LB

[Speedway]

Ft 1-3

[SHODAN]

Can't Jackson play LB?

[Vault Boy]

Happy enough with that overall. Won't face a better team all season.

[ElginHibbie]

Can't Jackson play LB?

Yeah, would suspect he'll start there Saturday

[hibbydog]

Happy enough with that overall. Won't face a better team all season.

Exactly. Newcastle just bought a striker for £45m.

Someone just bought Hibs for £3.5m.

Tells a story eh!!

[Vault Boy]

Yeah, would suspect he'll start there Saturday

Can he? Isn't he a right sided, quite big centre half?

I think Mackie can cope with St Mirren personally.

[we are hibs]

Can't Jackson play LB?

James not Jackson

[SHODAN]

Meh, 1-3 is about right for the difference in quality.

[blackpoolhibs]

A good run out, we will be better for it. Chased shadows most of the night, but tried to play some football when we had the ball.

The defenders looked to be moving the ball across and back a little quicker, probably because they were being shut down more than the previous games.

There was a huge gulf in quality and we didnt suffer a humping. :thumbsup:

[J-C]

Not unexpected, Newcastle strolled the game and a wee learning curve for a few players. Not going to criticise anyone tonight as they wont come up against a team that good all season.

[BSEJVT]

Could it not be that in the same way they, in fact we all, elevate players who aren’t that good to genius level, we also disparage players who aren’t that bad to garbage level?

Same fervour, same desire to win, same disappointment when players don’t perform/impress.

Possibly

But the one thing maturity tells you is that seldom are things ever as good or as bad as people perceive them to be.

The unending negativity of some of those involved is perhaps a clue to their motivations?

I don’t know how I would have survived 50 plus years of watching / supporting Hibs if I didn’t think that both the individual players of the day and the teams of the day were never going to improve.

Other than a few Ill thought out overly emotional rants I have usually tried to give both the players and the team the benefit of the doubt and look at them each game objectively and afresh

Some have sadly failed to improve, others have gotten worse, but far far more who I may have initially written off in my mind have given us something, some of whom a lot less than Shaw has already

[Tynie01011973]

Yeah, would suspect he'll start there Saturday

No danger Adam Jackson will play full back!

Tom James might move over to the left if needed

[J-C]

Yeah, would suspect he'll start there Saturday

Don't think Mackie done anything wrong tonight, up against very decent players and acquitted himself ok, if anything James looked to be caught out numerous times.

[Since452]

Hibs played very well 2nd half. Whittaker and Allan in particular. 3-1 about right.

[Pretty Boy]

Of the 3 strikers who played Shaw was probably the poorest on the night. That's no comment on his overall ability or potential but may explain why he's had a bit criticism from 2 or 3 people.

Jury's out on him for me. Probably a make or break season for him at Hibs, if he doesn't kick on or can't force his way into the team then it may be best for him if he moves on. That's hypothetical though and we'll know more in a few months.

[Real Emerald]

I dont get all the negativity towards Shaw, i think he is a great young talent still learning his trade, i think he shows flashes of being able to compete at a higher level!

I don’t think it’s negativity against Shaw. When you watch a team over a long number of years you see young guys coming through like Riordan, O’Conner, Kenny Miller, Gordon Durie etc. and you can see there’s a great striker in there. I just think Shaw doesn’t have that spark in him and folk can’t see him being good enough. He’s been around for a while now, folk don’t want to be negative as we all want them to be brilliant but are only saying what they see.

[Allant1981]

Don't think Mackie done anything wrong tonight, up against very decent players and acquitted himself ok, if anything James looked to be caught out numerous times.

I like mackie but he wasnt at the races tonight, I know he was up against a good team but some of his positioning was very sloppy

[worcesterhibby]

Mackie sounded poor defensively..hopefully a big learning opportunity for him..would be goof to see Lewis back soon.

I mentioned to my wife that Newcastle have a player that cost £40 million...she said "blimey he must be worth his weight in gold"....I worked it out, if he is 14stone then his weight in gold is only just over £4 million at current gold prices. So he's actually worth 10 times his weight in gold !! That's EPL football for you !!:dizzy:

[Pete]

Those who were boiling about us not thrashing teams like Stirling because we’re bigger than them:

shouldn't you now be applying the same logic and proclaiming this as one of the greatest results in our history?

[calumhibee1]

Possibly

But the one thing maturity tells you is that seldom are things ever as good or as bad as people perceive them to be.

The unending negativity of some of those involved is perhaps a clue to their motivations?

I don’t know how I would have survived 50 plus years of watching / supporting Hibs if I didn’t think that both the individual players of the day and the teams of the day were never going to improve.

Other than a few Ill thought out overly emotional rants I have usually tried to give both the players and the team the benefit of the doubt and look at them each game objectively and afresh

Some have sadly failed to improve, others have gotten worse, but far far more who I may have initially written off in my mind have given us something, some of whom a lot less than Shaw has already

What is it you want people to do? Just pretend that Shaw had a good game/has been good recently? Expecting people to only post positive opinions is ridiculous. He’s not played well recently. His lack of game time is probably evidence of that. People are going to comment on it.

[hibee_girl]

Thought Murray had a very good game

[calumhibee1]

I don’t think it’s negativity against Shaw. When you watch a team over a long number of years you see young guys coming through like Riordan, O’Conner, Kenny Miller, Gordon Durie etc. and you can see there’s a great striker in there. I just think Shaw doesn’t have that spark in him and folk can’t see him being good enough. He’s been around for a while now, folk don’t want to be negative as we all want them to be brilliant but are only saying what they see.

:agree:

[Marvellous]

Those who were boiling about us not thrashing teams like Stirling because we’re bigger than them:

shouldn't you now be applying the same logic and proclaiming this as one of the greatest results in our history?

:thumbsup:

[Speedway]

Possibly

But the one thing maturity tells you is that seldom are things ever as good or as bad as people perceive them to be.

The unending negativity of some of those involved is perhaps a clue to their motivations?

I don’t know how I would have survived 50 plus years of watching / supporting Hibs if I didn’t think that both the individual players of the day and the teams of the day were never going to improve.

Other than a few Ill thought out overly emotional rants I have usually tried to give both the players and the team the benefit of the doubt and look at them each game objectively and afresh

Some have sadly failed to improve, others have gotten worse, but far far more who I may have initially written off in my mind have given us something, some of whom a lot less than Shaw has already

I agree that there’s always an overreaction but I see the ‘naysayers’ point that they want to see quality in the side as we all do. The real quality we have and have had shines through early.

While some players develop over time, the quality can often be seen early. Not always but often.

[KDY Hibs]

:agree:

Fair point/s i still believe he will come good, he showed flashes last season with goals v celtic, and given decent coaching will push on.

[hhibs]

Aye it's not been his best game, just unfortunate we dont have another LB


Thought he did well ,had a xery hard shift and was left exposed at times,mistakes toward end when he tired,no wonder,PH should have subbed him at 70 mins.

[Lewiehas2]

1st 20 minutes we were decent and arguably deserved our lead. Newcastle lifted it and we got torn apart a bit at the back. Pu midfield often left the defence, particularly Makcie, very exposed.

2nd half we started well and had a couple of half chances, lots of nice possession, competed well but never really looked like scoring, conceded a poor goal then the game fizzled out a bit from a Hibs point of view, strikes from Shaw and Murray from distance as good as it got from us. We continued to knock the ball about well but there were also a few spells in which we ended up chasing shadows with the sporadic 'ole' from the Newcastle fans saying it all.

Overall a good run out and a fair few positives. Anyone expecting us to win tonight needs to consider the gap in resources.

Exactly the way I saw the game

[BSEJVT]

What is it you want people to do? Just pretend that Shaw had a good game/has been good recently? Expecting people to only post positive opinions is ridiculous. He’s not played well recently. His lack of game time is probably evidence of that. People are going to comment on it.

Maybe stop repeating themselves and give the guy a break and the time to either develop or fail.

Not jump onto the internet to criticise them before the game is even done.

It’s invariably a list of negatives with not one comment on but he did that well or was unlucky with that. The book is already written and finished

If the manager continuously picks player A and he isn’t good enough, whose fault is it?

Player or Manager?

Unless you believe the player isn’t trying a leg or pulling out of tackles IMO we should be supporting them and encouraging them to do better

In over 50 years watching Hibs I don’t think I have ever seen a player subjected to audible criticism continuously improve as a result. I have definitely seen a good few crumble.

To be clear I am not talking about Hibs Net criticism here, I am talking about folk jumping on bandwagons and transferring that to games.

You don’t have to listen too hard at games to hear that Shaw is one of the boo boys current favourites

One miss step and folk are on his back

Some supporters only joy at a specific player is when that player is out the team and out the club.

That cannot be healthy for anyone involved.

Every player on our books who leaves without making a positive overall impact is a failing for and of Hibs

Support the players and the team

[Ozyhibby]

I think tonight served it’s purpose. Loads of game time shared about. Decent performances. No injuries.


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[BSEJVT]

I agree that there’s always an overreaction but I see the ‘naysayers’ point that they want to see quality in the side as we all do. The real quality we have and have had shines through early.

While some players develop over time, the quality can often be seen early. Not always but often.

We all want to see quality in the team and that quality to increase game by game.

That will inevitably mean that even some sacred cows are replaced over time.

It doesn’t though have to mean that the only way to achieve that is to constantly complain about the present incumbents or some of them in particular

If they are the best option we have at the moment wouldn’t it be better to support and encourage them?

[Borderhibbie76]

‘Bang out of order’ must be the most annoying expression in the world.Not nearly as annoying as HC and his constant negativity...its draining

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[Oscar T Grouch]

Lots of positives from tonights game, this place is the same as ever, good run out for the squad against a very decent looking Newcastle side. Mackie didn't have a great game but never had a nightmare either. Good to see Porto back. We're gonna be okay this season no matter what the naysayers say. Looking forward to humping St Mirren on Saturday and going top of the league.:greengrin

[bingo70]

I think tonight served it’s purpose. Loads of game time shared about. Decent performances. No injuries.


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Think it’ll have done us good to play against a team better than us as well. All games so far this pre-season have been games we’ve been expected to win comfortably so this gave us a wee reminder of what it’s like to be on the back foot.

[calumhibee1]

Maybe stop repeating themselves and give the guy a break and the time to either develop or fail.

Not jump onto the internet to criticise them before the game is even done.

It’s invariably a list of negatives with not one comment on but he did that well or was unlucky with that. The book is already written and finished

If the manager continuously picks player A and he isn’t good enough, whose fault is it?

Player or Manager?

Unless you believe the player isn’t trying a leg or pulling out of tackles IMO we should be supporting them and encouraging them to do better

In over 50 years watching Hibs I don’t think I have ever seen a player subjected to audible criticism continuously improve as a result. I have definitely seen a good few crumble.

To be clear I am not talking about Hibs Net criticism here, I am talking about folk jumping on bandwagons and transferring that to games.

You don’t have to listen too hard at games to hear that Shaw is one of the boo boys current favourites

One miss step and folk are on his back

Some supporters only joy at a specific player is when that player is out the team and out the club.

That cannot be healthy for anyone involved.

Every player on our books who leaves without making a positive overall impact is a failing for and of Hibs

Support the players and the team

Nobody said “Shaw did that well” at any point tonight because if we’re being honest, he never really done anything well. The one shot he did have, people said was a good strike.

You can’t expect people to not post a negative opinion on a player who would probably admit himself he hasn’t done nearly enough in his more recent appearances.

Shaws a first team player now at Hibs. He needs to step up and show more than he has been the last 6 months. If not, he’ll get criticised. If he does, he’ll get praised.

[calumhibee1]

Lots of positives from tonights game, this place is the same as ever, good run out for the squad against a very decent looking Newcastle side. Mackie didn't have a great game but never had a nightmare either. Good to see Porto back. We're gonna be okay this season no matter what the naysayers say. Looking forward to humping St Mirren on Saturday and going top of the league.:greengrin

There was definitely some positives tonight. Quite a few players equipped themselves well against a team at a much higher level than us.

I would have liked to have seen us use this to test our strongest team out before the season starts though. Would have been a better indicator as to where were at than half them on the pitch at any one time.

[jax67]

I think tonight served it’s purpose. Loads of game time shared about. Decent performances. No injuries.


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I agree, great workout before Saturday.

[Speedway]

We all want to see quality in the team and that quality to increase game by game.

That will inevitably mean that even some sacred cows are replaced over time.

It doesn’t though have to mean that the only way to achieve that is to constantly complain about the present incumbents or some of them in particular

If they are the best option we have at the moment wouldn’t it be better to support and encourage them?

In theory, of course it would, but we’re talking about football fans here.

I’m not convinced we’re as negative as some other sets of fans.

[calumhibee1]

In theory, of course it would, but we’re talking about football fans here.

I’m not convinced we’re as negative as some other sets of fans.

We’re not.

[SquashedFrogg]

There was definitely some positives tonight. Quite a few players equipped themselves well against a team at a much higher level than us.

I would have liked to have seen us use this to test our strongest team out before the season starts though. Would have been a better indicator as to where were at than half them on the pitch at any one time.

Technically we did. Just at different stages.

[Hakim Sar]

At times our willingness to pop the ball around was really nice tonight. The difference was just our level of ability versus some very neat and clever Newcastle players. A great workout and many positives. Newcastle's pace against McGregor and Hanlon really stood out. They won't be so exposed against a Scot Prem team I'm sure. At times I thought we looked much fitter than NUFC which was pleasing. I felt some of their players were blowing out their erchie after 65 mins.

[Fife-Hibee]

We did fine tonight. Not great, but fine.

We showed some good patient build up play in the first 15 minutes or so and got our goal. After we conceded we were trying to be a bit too quick in getting the ball forward resulting in some sloppy passing which ultimately cost us the 2nd. We reverted back to some good patient build up play in the second half, albeit Newcastle backed off somewhat and allowed us to have more possession as they sat deeper. They defended well enough and limited our chances knowing they'd always have the quality to hit back on the break or from a set piece sitation, which they did.

Considering who the referee was and how utterly atrocious the linesmen were. I think we did ok.

[Hiber-nation]

Thought Newcastle were very good. Suppose it shows the quality that the Premier League has these days.

We shored things up a wee bit in the 2nd half but never looked like scoring. Hopefully Sean Mackie will have learnt a lot tonight. He won't come up against that pace and quality every week obviously!

Thought Kamberi was very good tonight.

[SquashedFrogg]

I don’t think it’s negativity against Shaw. When you watch a team over a long number of years you see young guys coming through like Riordan, O’Conner, Kenny Miller, Gordon Durie etc. and you can see there’s a great striker in there. I just think Shaw doesn’t have that spark in him and folk can’t see him being good enough. He’s been around for a while now, folk don’t want to be negative as we all want them to be brilliant but are only saying what they see.

Get what you're saying. Although not sure you can quote Riordan and O'Connor in same bracket as Durie. Different level altogether.

[Since452]

Thought that £40m boy always found himself in space brilliantly. Don't think I've ever seen a player play on the brink of being offside that well before. Lost count of how many times he ran past our defence. Guess thats what mega money gets you.

[Fife-Hibee]

Thought that £40m boy always found himself in space brilliantly. Don't think I've ever seen a player play on the brink of being offside that well before. Lost count of how many times he ran past our defence. Guess thats what mega money gets you.

We had players that did that tonight as well. Only difference is, the flag went up when it shouldn't have.

[B.H.F.C]

Can’t be critical of us tonight.

The guy up front for them just cost 40m. The guy who scored the second is being linked with Man Utd for £50m.

I thought we did all right at times. Worth noting we never had our strongest team on the park at any point either.

[truehibernian]

Get what you're saying. Although not sure you can quote Riordan and O'Connor in same bracket as Durie. Different level altogether.

Durie was - better than Deek and Gaz combined :aok: better player, better pro, played against better talent, played at the very top level in his era. Deek and Garry didn't (sadly) do anywhere near Gordon Durie did in their (combined) careers. Gordon Durie was an excellent footballer.

[Real Emerald]

Durie was - better than Deek and Gaz combined :aok: better player, better pro, played against better talent, played at the very top level in his era. Deek and Garry didn't (sadly) do anywhere near Gordon Durie did in their (combined) careers. Gordon Durie was an excellent footballer.

I wasn’t comparing them, just using them as an example of young strikers you just knew had something.

[Here’s Lucy!]

Boy at 40 Mil is nothing special. These prices are ridiculous these days. We done ok.

[Leith Green]

I think we are definitely going to be a team who score plenty goals but also concede a lot this season.

[Hibernia&Alba]

It's a chasm between the SPL and EPL, and there is no shame in that result. I didn't expect anything but a defeat tonight. It will do the players good to have experienced such a tough test.

[bingo70]

Boy at 40 Mil is nothing special. These prices are ridiculous these days. We done ok.

Think If you said that to Darren Mcgregor he’d disagree 😉

[Blaster]

Good run out. James and Jackson were excellent and Allan showed the wee bit flair at times

[Here’s Lucy!]

In the grand scheme of things, money considered, we will be more than fine this year.

GGTTH :flag:

[GreenCastle]

Enjoyed the game apart from result but being pre-season game which we actually never had our strongest 11 on pitch at same time it served it’s purpose.

Kamberi continuing to look sharp.

James decent at right back.

Fraser Murray looking impressive again.

More minutes for squad players.

Good to see Porto back.

Such a shame about Boyle as feel we are missing real pace out wide.

Newcastle looked like a team with a much higher wage bill than us as you would expect - front 2 speed was a constant threat.

Looks like Mackie will play left back Saturday. We will do fine this season - hopefully still add more players but got a solid base.

[Real Emerald]

Boy at 40 Mil is nothing special. These prices are ridiculous these days. We done ok.

We beat upcoming EPL champions Blackburn Rovers 4-0 in a pre season friendly including their multi million pound signing debutant Alan Shearer who went on to be one England’s best ever strikers. I’d wager this £40m player isn’t in that bracket.

[I_Love_Latapy]

Thought that £40m boy always found himself in space brilliantly. Don't think I've ever seen a player play on the brink of being offside that well before. Lost count of how many times he ran past our defence. Guess thats what mega money gets you.

Agree. Thought he was very impressive (didn't know his value til I got home & looked him up). Also the lad on the left wing had quick feet & pace

[Hi Heid Yin]

Not far. He's in the stand.

:tee hee::tee hee:

[Fife-Hibee]

We beat upcoming EPL champions Blackburn Rovers 4-0 in a pre season friendly including their multi million pound signing debutant Alan Shearer who went on to be one England’s best ever strikers. I’d wager this £40m player isn’t in that bracket.

Obviously not. A young Alan Shearer went to Newcastle in 1996 for a record breaking £15million. Which is worth about £30million in 2019. However a young Alan Sherer in 2019 would be valued at far more than £30million. Probably closer to £100-150million considering how crazy the financial side of the game has become.

[04Sauzee]

Good run out. James and Jackson were excellent and Allan showed the wee bit flair at times

James looks a real find. Watching Allan and its criminal he went a year without playing football, he was different class

[Brightside]

Overall a decent performance against a much stronger side than we will face all season. The boy up front for them was dynamite and we really hung our defenders out to dry in the first half with no Defensive Mid at all. Good to see Slivka back and i thought he was excellent first 20 mins. Mallan struggled, and I think like Allan he struggles in a flat mid 4. We looked better once Vela came on but at that point we made too many changes to try and have a go at them. There were a lot of Hibs players on the pitch tonight that i dont think we will see in the majority of games this season.

[supermcginn]

Boy at 40 Mil is nothing special. These prices are ridiculous these days. We done ok.

He was sheer class.

[southsider]

Thought Newcastle were very good. Suppose it shows the quality that the Premier League has these days.

We shored things up a wee bit in the 2nd half but never looked like scoring. Hopefully Sean Mackie will have learnt a lot tonight. He won't come up against that pace and quality every week obviously!

Thought Kamberi was very good tonight.

They pay £20m plus for players. We pay £25k. We got a bit of a doing at times but we hung in there & SA showed some great touches.

[Real Emerald]

Obviously not. A young Alan Shearer went to Newcastle in 1996 for a record breaking £15million. Which is worth about £30million in 2019. However a young Alan Sherer in 2019 would be valued at far more than £30million. Probably closer to £100-150million considering how crazy the financial side of the game has become.

He went to Blackburn from Southampton for £3.6m which was a domestic record in July 1992, so would be equivalent to whatever today’s domestic record in England is £££££££££. Far more than £40 as you pointed out.

[thegaffer12]

Vela and Allan will make a huge difference to our strongest 11. Was always exciting watching either of them get on the ball.

[Ozyhibby]

Obviously not. A young Alan Shearer went to Newcastle in 1996 for a record breaking £15million. Which is worth about £30million in 2019. However a young Alan Sherer in 2019 would be valued at far more than £30million. Probably closer to £100-150million considering how crazy the financial side of the game has become.

He wasn’t that young then, he was about 26 and had been banging them in for years. He was of course better than the majority of strikers in the epl now.


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[Leith Green]

See the attendance was 12557 .. Good turnout

[Here’s Lucy!]

He was sheer class.

He wasn’t 40 Million pounds of ‘sheer class’.

You could not be further from the truth, mediocre would suffice.

[AugustaHibs]

He wasn’t 40 Million pounds of ‘sheer class’.

You could not be further from the truth, mediocre would suffice.

He will do very well in the premier league. Strong, quick, good ability and only 22

[J-C]

Anyone else thought Beaton the ref has put on about 2 stones, he was blowing out his erse after about 15 minutes.

[elevengoats]

Decent game. The atmosphere was really flat though from Hibs fans side.

[Brightside]

He wasn’t 40 Million pounds of ‘sheer class’.

You could not be further from the truth, mediocre would suffice.

If he is mediocre the whole of our team is crap. He is a quality young player and leaps and bounds better than anything you will see in the scottish leagues.

[04Sauzee]

He wasn’t 40 Million pounds of ‘sheer class’.

You could not be further from the truth, mediocre would suffice.

He was, don't worry this isn't the first time you have been wrong and it won't be the last time 😜

[Real Emerald]

Anyone else thought Beaton the ref has put on about 2 stones, he was blowing out his erse after about 15 minutes.

Maybe he looks fatter because the pitch looks narrower 😂😂😂

[GreenCastle]

What was crowd tonight?

Good effort from Newcastle fans who added some atmosphere and made more noise than most SPL teams. I’m sure they would have probably close to have sold out if it wasn’t for the Ashley mess they are in.

Seemed the stewards wouldn’t let them hang banner over front advertising boards.

Other thing I noticed is that there seemed to be more Hibs fans at this game then league cup games which actually meant something - but obviously more quality on show tonight than watching some part timer.

[HappyAsHellas]

A much stiffer test than anything we will come across in the league this season and never having the strongest 11 on the park at any one time, so I'm quite happy with the result. Definite gulf in the quality of the players but we more than just made up the numbers at times. I feel a lot more positive after tonight's game than I was after the league cup games. James, Allan, Kamberi, Slivka and Murray all doing very well. Oh and Marciano for keeping us in it in the first half.

[erin go bragh]

What was crowd tonight?

Good effort from Newcastle fans who added some atmosphere and made more noise than most SPL teams. I’m sure hey would have probably close to have sold out if it wasn’t for the Ashley mess they are in.

Seemed the stewards wouldn’t let them hang banner over front advertising boards.

Other thing I noticed is that there seemed to be more Hibs fans at this game then league cup games which actually meant something - but obviously more quality on show tonight than watching some part timer.
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[sean04]

I think sometimes you have to appreciate what we're watching. Class above hibs and a class above anything in Scotland. Top players worth a lot of money. We did more than ok and I'm looking forward to sat

[GreenCastle]

He wasn’t 40 Million pounds of ‘sheer class’.

You could not be further from the truth, mediocre would suffice.

They paid £40 million for him. Doesn’t mean he’s that level.

Plenty players prices are over the top - especially in England.

He looked sharp and I think he will do well but only time will tell whether he is worth all that money.

[Since452]

What was crowd tonight?

Good effort from Newcastle fans who added some atmosphere and made more noise than most SPL teams. I’m sure hey would have probably close to have sold out if it wasn’t for the Ashley mess they are in.

Seemed the stewards wouldn’t let them hang banner over front advertising boards.

Other thing I noticed is that there seemed to be more Hibs fans at this game then league cup games which actually meant something - but obviously more quality on show tonight than watching some part timer.

Would love for us to go down to Newcastle for a friendly. We'd take similar numbers. Was it not around 1500 at Carlisle on a Tuesday night?

[heretoday]

If he is mediocre the whole of our team is crap. He is a quality young player and leaps and bounds better than anything you will see in the scottish leagues.

Not all crap but not up to prem standard for certain.

[PH91]

Enjoyed the game apart from result but being pre-season game which we actually never had our strongest 11 on pitch at same time it served it’s purpose.

Kamberi continuing to look sharp.

James decent at right back.

Fraser Murray looking impressive again.

More minutes for squad players.

Good to see Porto back.

Such a shame about Boyle as feel we are missing real pace out wide.

Newcastle looked like a team with a much higher wage bill than us as you would expect - front 2 speed was a constant threat.

Looks like Mackie will play left back Saturday. We will do fine this season - hopefully still add more players but got a solid base.

Yep, murray is ready to be a regular in the first team squad, he will get plenty of game time this year.

Kamberi had a brilliant first 20 minutes, faded out after that as they began to totally dominate the game. He is ahead of doidge at the moment for me.

The fact murray, shaw and mackie played the majority of the game suggests that they wont start on sat. Expecting james at lb and whittaker at rb. None of what i think will be the starting 11 played more than 45 mins tonight.

[Since452]

He wasn’t 40 Million pounds of ‘sheer class’.

You could not be further from the truth, mediocre would suffice.

I thought he was excellent and probably still a yard off the pace

[supermcginn]

He wasn’t 40 Million pounds of ‘sheer class’.

You could not be further from the truth, mediocre would suffice.

Absolute nonsense. Newcastle fans are absolutely delighted with how he's looked first two games.

[GreenCastle]

Would love for us to go down to Newcastle for a friendly. We'd take similar numbers. Was it not around 1500 at Carlisle on a Tuesday night?

Yup - I reckon 3000 would easily travel at a weekend for a friendly. Most EPL teams don’t play many home games as all about the £££ abroad this days like tours of China etc.

Can’t remember the last Scottish team to play an EPL away friendly ??

[jgl07]

He wasn’t that young then, he was about 26 and had been banging them in for years. He was of course better than the majority of strikers in the epl now.


Shearer was 22 when he went to Blackburn.

[Hiber-nation]

He wasn’t 40 Million pounds of ‘sheer class’.

You could not be further from the truth, mediocre would suffice.

Blether.

[JohnM1875]

He was sheer class.

Totally agree. Looked amazing. Might pop him in my dream team work league this season.

[GreenCastle]

Yep, murray is ready to be a regular in the first team squad, he will get plenty of game time this year.

Kamberi had a brilliant first 20 minutes, faded out after that as they began to totally dominate the game. He is ahead of doidge at the moment for me.

The fact murray, shaw and mackie played the majority of the game suggests that they wont start on sat. Expecting james at lb and whittaker at rb. None of what i think will be the starting 11 played more than 45 mins tonight.

I think he may go with that..

Marciano

SW Jackson Hanlon James (he played this back 4 against Alloa I think and didn’t look great).

Vela
Allan Mallan
Horgan Flo Newell

[Brightside]

I think he may go with that..

Marciano

SW Jackson Hanlon James (he played this against Alloa I think and didn’t look great).

Vela
Allan Mallan
Horgan Flo Newell

James has been excellent at RB - i really hope we dont change it.

[Forza Fred]

Could it not be that in the same way they, in fact we all, elevate players who aren’t that good to genius level, we also disparage players who aren’t that bad to garbage level?

Same fervour, same desire to win, same disappointment when players don’t perform/impress.

What?

Are you suggesting that many posts on here tend to go to extreme ends of the spectrum, rather than a more reasoned view?

Doesn’t happen!

[GreenCastle]

James has been excellent at RB - i really hope we dont change it.

Agreed - he’s pacy and looks more comfortable there for obvious reasons.

SW actually did well I thought tonight.

[Greenbeard]

James has been excellent at RB - i really hope we dont change it.
Really? First time i have seen him and I wasn't overly impressed. One spell when everything they did was coming down their left.
Didn't think he contributed much 2nd half either when switched to mid. CORRECTION, I now see it was Vela who came on. Not sufficiently au fait with how the new guys look yet and the only two words I heard of all the announcements were "thank you" at the end.

[JimBHibees]

Ok, he was crap v Arbroath and Elgin. Lesser opposition and still cant do well.

Elgin he played about 10 mins and scored v Arbroath.

[Musselbound]

Yep, murray is ready to be a regular in the first team squad, he will get plenty of game time this year.

Kamberi had a brilliant first 20 minutes, faded out after that as they began to totally dominate the game. He is ahead of doidge at the moment for me.

The fact murray, shaw and mackie played the majority of the game suggests that they wont start on sat. Expecting james at lb and whittaker at rb. None of what i think will be the starting 11 played more than 45 mins tonight.

I agree with you about Kamberi. I've had serious doubts about him but think he looks a far better player than Doidge at the moment. Don't think Shaw did enough to get into team for Saturday though he did have one decent effort from distance flash just wide.

[Greenbeard]

We had players that did that tonight as well. Only difference is, the flag went up when it shouldn't have.
Once from what I saw..........

[Brightside]

Really? First time i have seen him and I wasn't overly impressed. One spell when everything they did was coming down their left.
Didn't think he contributed much 2nd half either when switched to mid.

I was sure James came off for Whitt’s?? Did I miss him moving to midfield?!

[GreenCastle]

Really? First time i have seen him and I wasn't overly impressed. One spell when everything they did was coming down their left.
Didn't think he contributed much 2nd half either when switched to mid.

1st sentence weakens your point.

I’ve watched him several games now and he’s settling in well. Will definitely be useful to have as back up for Gray.

[B.H.F.C]

Really? First time i have seen him and I wasn't overly impressed. One spell when everything they did was coming down their left.
Didn't think he contributed much 2nd half either when switched to mid.

I can see why you didn’t think he contributed much in the second half....

[GreenCastle]

I agree with you about Kamberi. I've had serious doubts about him but think he looks a far better player than Doidge at the moment. Don't think Shaw did enough to get into team for Saturday though he did have one decent effort from distance flash just wide.

Shaw also needs to be playing in a front 2.

He’s being asked to play in a front 3 wide left which he’s learning.

Flo has better movement than Doidge and Allan will find Flo with his clever passing and runs.

Doidge though will score more headed goals than Flo and is a good option if we are putting crosses into the box.

Would love us to go 3-5-2 and play Flo and Doidge together up front with Mallan, Allan and Vela behind.

[BoomtownHibees]

Really? First time i have seen him and I wasn't overly impressed. One spell when everything they did was coming down their left.
Didn't think he contributed much 2nd half either when switched to mid.

He done absolutely nothing 2nd half

[PH91]

I think he may go with that..

Marciano

SW Jackson Hanlon James (he played this back 4 against Alloa I think and didn’t look great).

Vela
Allan Mallan
Horgan Flo Newell

I wasnt sure whether it would be jackson or mcgregor but daz playing over an hour tonight makes me think the above will be the starting 11.

[SMAXXA]

Some fans are off the scale at times, a player goes from good to being ***** depending on if we win it not. When we lose or someone puts in a bad performance or is quiet folk want them replaced and think we need half a team 🙈 it’s tiresome. Thank god there are enough who have more balance or we would be a miserable lot

[JimBHibees]

Would love us to go 3-5-2 and play Flo and Doidge together up front with Mallan, Allan and Vela behind.

Was discussing this with my son on way home given we now have 4 good centre halfs there must be the option of this. It would allow us to play both a midfield 3 and 2 forwards. Also think James and Mackie could play wing backs knowing there would be cover behind them from centre backs. Would make us more defensively strong and also build team around our most creative player Scott Allan.

A wee bit surprised we don't appear to have tried it this season.

[Musselbound]

Shaw also needs to be playing in a front 2.

He’s being asked to play in a front 3 wide left which he’s learning.

Flo has better movement than Doidge and Allan will find Flo with his clever passing and runs.

Doidge though will score more headed goals than Flo and is a good option if we are putting crosses into the box.

Would love us to go 3-5-2 and play Flo and Doidge together up front with Mallan, Allan and Vela behind.

I'm hopeful Doidge will chip in with a number of goals over the course of the season even if he is not a technical forward by any stretch of the imagination. I think the formation and midfielders you mention might be the way to go - especially now that Boyle is out.

[Gaffer1875]

First time I’ve seen the new signings tonight. I though James, Jackson, Doige, Vela all looked decent. Not sure about the lad Newell but I’ll give him a few more games before passing any real judgement.

Mackie has a good game, thought Scott Allan looked lively when he came on as did Whittaker.

Really not sure about Oli Shaw, want the lad to do well but I do think a years loan to a championship side would be beneficial.


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[Gaffer1875]

Also thought Kamberi looked a different player to last season.


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[GreenCastle]

Was discussing this with my son on way home given we now have 4 good centre halfs there must be the option of this. It would allow us to play both a midfield 3 and 2 forwards. Also think James and Mackie could play wing backs knowing there would be cover behind them from centre backs. Would make us more defensively strong and also build team around our most creative player Scott Allan.

A wee bit surprised we don't appear to have tried it this season.

Yup -

The main area we lack is wide players.

We are strong centrally.

James / Mackie / Horgan could do wing back roles. Newell not sure has stamina.

Jackson McGregor Hanlon ( Porto as back up or starting when fit would be a decent back 3).

Though you would also probably want to find room for Stevenson and Gray when fit.

It was also good to see Slivka back tonight and Murray is playing well so hard to leave out.

[04Sauzee]

I can see why you didn’t think he contributed much in the second half....

👍😂

[tamig]

He was sheer class.

Agreed. Thought he looked very good.

[04Sauzee]

Many Newcastle fans reckon the team that started would be close to their strongest 11 they will put out against Arsenal
https://twitter.com/NUFC/status/1156259484119064576?s=19

[NAE NOOKIE]

Whatever happens Hibs need to sort out the turnstile issues before Saturday .. I was there 10 minutes before kick off and still missed the Hibs goal because of it and its no good folk talking about turning up earlier, when has that ever happened. The whole point of a modern electronic access system is to get folk in quickly and tonight it was a car crash.

As for the game itself, I thought we did OK but what I look for against superior opposition is how we do when we actually have the ball and at times I thought we were a bit ponderous moving it forward and slow to find space. Having said that there was some decent performances and I like Vela more every time I see him.

It was clear to see that Newcastle were a good bit out of our league so it was a good workout for the team, even if nobody is really sure what the actual first choice team is going to be :greengrin

Oh, and for any Newcastle fans looking in … 'Ole' against a team you should expect to beat without breaking sweat … really? I cant help thinking that's what will be going through my head when you are getting pumped at Anfield or the Etihad on MOTD next season. :aok:

[IvanSproule]

Finding it hard against a team with signings worth over £60m is more than forgivable I think!


It is but it didn’t work too well last season either


Dare I say a Hanlon & McGregor partnership at CB is past it?


Worth pointing out again that we had our best defensive season since 00\01 last season.
Daz and Hanlon still quality.

[jakedance]

I thought we played quite well. Newcastle are obviously a much stronger team, although I expect they’ll struggle to stay up. Shelvey was class and their new guy looks good.

I though Kamberi had some lovely touches, Mallan played well, Murray will play a part this season, I’m hopeful about Vela and we might as well give Scott Allan player of the season now. Hanlon and MacGregor were up against it but showed they’re not ready to give up their places in the team just yet. I’m feeling more positive about the season now and expect we’ll finish fourth or fifth.

[JimBHibees]

Oh, and for any Newcastle fans looking in … 'Ole' against a team you should expect to beat without breaking sweat … really? I cant help thinking that's what will be going through my head when you are getting pumped at Anfield or the Etihad on MOTD next season. :aok:

Was thinking that as well. Was wondering when the last time they have done that as they usually put ten men behind the ball and try and nick a goal on the break. Thought they looked good particularly first half when we gave their midfield way too much space emphasised when Longstaff was able to take about 4 touches at the edge of our box with no one pressing him. The movement of Joelinton and Alvaron first half was very good.

[Stuart93]

Worth pointing out again that we had our best defensive season since 00\01 last season.
Daz and Hanlon still quality.

Thought Hanlon had quite a poor season last year tbh

[eastmainsmsh]

young Mackie impressed again as did James

[Bishop Hibee]

Just watched the interview with Heckingbottom. Interesting that he set the team up to go 1 v 1 positionally at the back which he wouldn’t have done in a competitive game against them. A good watch.

Bring on St Mirren!

[Phil MaGlass]

Think we should be looking to play more of these games, it shows our shortcomings and the team step up a bit and realise what they have to do better, great learning curve, especially for the younger players, sets a benchmark. There´s alot to be positive about for the upcoming season.

[Brooster]

Be lucky if there's 3k there tonight IMO.

You were only 10k out.

[theonlywayisup]

young Mackie impressed again as did James

Reading the thread, it sounded as if Mackie was struggling. Some even suggesting that we needed a new left back.

Was this an over reaction in your opinion.

From what I've seen of Mackie, he looked poor against Dunfermline defensively. However he looked much better against Arbroath and Elgin City, where he had more time to go forward.

[theonlywayisup]

You were only 10k out.

12.5k is pretty impressive, especially after all the nonsense written in the Liverpool thread about people choosing to attend the Liverpool game and not the Hibs game.

Maybe it had the alternative effect that some of the young kids taken to the Liverpool game enjoyed it so much that their parents took them to the Newcastle game.

[we are hibs]

Yup - I reckon 3000 would easily travel at a weekend for a friendly. Most EPL teams don’t play many home games as all about the £££ abroad this days like tours of China etc.

Can’t remember the last Scottish team to play an EPL away friendly ??

Dundee played crystal palace in Julian Speroni's testimonial a few years back. Cant remember if they were in the top flight at the time though

[The_Horde]

You were only 10k out.

Turns out we're quite lucky after all.

[calumhibee1]

Whatever happens Hibs need to sort out the turnstile issues before Saturday .. I was there 10 minutes before kick off and still missed the Hibs goal because of it and its no good folk talking about turning up earlier, when has that ever happened. The whole point of a modern electronic access system is to get folk in quickly and tonight it was a car crash :

I got in fine last night but it really annoys me when people suggest you get there earlier to compensate for turnstiles/ticketing systems not working as if it’s your fault :greengrin

[calumhibee1]

Some fans are off the scale at times, a player goes from good to being ***** depending on if we win it not. When we lose or someone puts in a bad performance or is quiet folk want them replaced and think we need half a team 🙈 it’s tiresome. Thank god there are enough who have more balance or we would be a miserable lot

What player does this apply to after last nights game? From what I’ve saw most folk seem to reckon the majority done alright. Shaw has been criticised but then people have had doubts about him for a long time so it’s not something that was dependant on whether we win or not as you’ve said?

[Leith Green]

You were only 10k out.


The club will have made decent cash out of that. Id really like to see us playing a premiership club before the season kicks off every year. Make decent cash , gives the team a good workout , fans get to see us playing against big name players from down south.

[whiskyhibby]

Reading the thread, it sounded as if Mackie was struggling. Some even suggesting that we needed a new left back.

Was this an over reaction in your opinion.

From what I've seen of Mackie, he looked poor against Dunfermline defensively. However he looked much better against Arbroath and Elgin City, where he had more time to go forward.


Mackie had had a great game IMHO, the only thing I would have liked to seen more of was him operating a bit further forward, but I think he had probably been told to sit back due to the pace and technique of the Newcastle forwards, he did it look out of place against Newcastle which is good news for the season ahead

[whiskyhibby]

The club will have made decent cash out of that. Id really like to see us playing a premiership club before the season kicks off every year. Make decent cash , gives the team a good workout , fans get to see us playing against big name players from down south.


As its never going to be a winnable game against EPL and as such just a workout for the team, why not play an Edinburgh select team?

[GreenCastle]

The club will have made decent cash out of that. Id really like to see us playing a premiership club before the season kicks off every year. Make decent cash , gives the team a good workout , fans get to see us playing against big name players from down south.

Yup - should be a different EPL team every season.

I was at Liverpool v Napoli also and last night was 100 times better as a game and spectacle.

Will never attend a so called glamour friendly again unless Hibs are playing.

[skyhibs]

What player does this apply to after last nights game? From what I’ve saw most folk seem to reckon the majority done alright. Shaw has been criticised but then people have had doubts about him for a long time so it’s not something that was dependant on whether we win or not as you’ve said?

I think most players played well... my only concern would be Horgan.... Whittaker even had a good game... We need another option for horgan... he does run about but that's it.... doesn't seem to have an end product most of the time.... I am not knocking the team in any way as I thought we played well in stages against a far better team... I will be there on Saturday as per and still shouting them on....

[skyhibs]

As its never going to be a winnable game against EPL and as such just a workout for the team, why not play an Edinburgh select team?

HIBS are the Edinburgh select team

[Brightside]

Just watched the interview with Heckingbottom. Interesting that he set the team up to go 1 v 1 positionally at the back which he wouldn’t have done in a competitive game against them. A good watch.

Bring on St Mirren!

Yep i like that. He had no interest in just trying to close the game down and wanted us to play football. Hence why no out and out DM in the first half. Great to see him use the friendly properly.

[SMAXXA]

What player does this apply to after last nights game? From what I’ve saw most folk seem to reckon the majority done alright. Shaw has been criticised but then people have had doubts about him for a long time so it’s not something that was dependant on whether we win or not as you’ve said?

The fact some folk think we still need 4/5 players 🤷🏼*♂️

[Brightside]

I think most players played well... my only concern would be Horgan.... Whittaker even had a good game... We need another option for horgan... he does run about but that's it.... doesn't seem to have an end product most of the time.... I am not knocking the team in any way as I thought we played well in stages against a far better team... I will be there on Saturday as per and still shouting them on....

His delivery has been the best of the wide players in the pre season.

[Keith_M]

I got in fine last night but it really annoys me when people suggest you get there earlier to compensate for turnstiles/ticketing systems not working as if it’s your fault :greengrin


Victim blaming

:agree:

[Leith Green]

As its never going to be a winnable game against EPL and as such just a workout for the team, why not play an Edinburgh select team?


Id have zero interest in going to watch that to be honest. I think its a bit much to think its never going to be winnable either.

[J-C]

My only real grumble last night and it's been a problem for a while now is our total lack of movement at times, player has the ball and no one seems to want it by making space, Allan showed exactly that when he came on, always moving to receive the ball.

[Leith Green]

Thought Hanlon had quite a poor season last year tbh


Thought mcgregor was good 2nd half of last season , thought hanlon was ropey most of the time.

[calumhibee1]

The fact some folk think we still need 4/5 players 🤷🏼*♂️

I don’t think much of that is down to player performances though? I think we need 3. I think we need a winger now that Boyle is out, a striker with pace because we don’t have one and another deeper central midfielder because we currently only have 2. That’s nothing to do with the performances of the players we do have though and from what I’ve saw most folks thinking is along the same lines.

[Here’s Lucy!]

He was, don't worry this isn't the first time you have been wrong and it won't be the last time 😜


Blether.

Ok, I’m wrong.

He’s sheer class, and worth every penny.

[hibbyfraelibby]

What was crowd tonight

Should have been 14,432 but since 1875 didn't turn up (again) it was only 12,557

[seanshow]

2018/2019

EPL - Newcastle United FC - League position (13th) - Prize money - ​£120,130,418

SPL - Hibenian FC - League position (5th) - Prize money - ​£1,600,000

Now even to my rudimentary arithmetic, from a Hibs perspective thats just over 1% of the income received from their respective league (tv rights deals)

just another reason i havn't paid a single penny to Sky or BT and prefer to put money directly into my club.

I dont follow or know jack s*** about english football or any of the Newcastle players, but £120m will apparently buy you, extremely fast athletic players with the ability to split an SPL defense wide open at will.
Credit to their fans who turned up in big numbers and sang throughout, the only downside was the token sectarianism which was a total embarrassment (wrong city).

As for our own fans, nowadays we only wake up for 6 home matches a season 2 v Hearts,Celtic,Rangers, which is pretty poor i have to say. (the away support is always fantastic)

[hibby rae]

Anyone hear any far-right chants from the away end last night? I took a couple Geordies last night and one of them told me they were hearing a lot about it on twitter today.

[Since452]

Anyone hear any far-right chants from the away end last night? I took a couple Geordies last night and one of them told me they were hearing a lot about it on twitter today.

Everything sung from the away end was incomprehensible for me

[The_Horde]

Anyone hear any far-right chants from the away end last night? I took a couple Geordies last night and one of them told me they were hearing a lot about it on twitter today.

They were definitely chanting f*** the IRA at one point.

[HIBERNIAN-0762]

They were definitely chanting f*** the IRA at one point.

Infiltrated by hun/yam morons no doubt.

[erin go bragh]

They were definitely chanting f*** the IRA at one point.

Singing pro Tommy Robinson songs also . No wonder Sunderland hate them with a passion.
Always felt sorry for their fans as they always turned up in big numbers and never won sfa but not now .

[StevieC]

Infiltrated by hun/yam morons no doubt.

Definitely.

I’ve been to loads of away games with Newcastle and never heard any Tommy Robinson, IRA related, Rule Brittania nonesense.

The “Matty scores, we’re on the pitch” is more like the sort of thing you’d be more likely to hear.

You are always going to get the Ingerlund/God save the Queen stuff whenever an English team is up playing in Scotland .. I mean even Berwick Rangers do it!

As for the “no wonder Sunderland hate them” comment 😂

[jacomo]

Infiltrated by hun/yam morons no doubt.


I think the toon support is infiltrated by a good few Geordie morons as well.

[Here’s Lucy!]

Infiltrated by hun/yam morons no doubt.

Geordies too. No’ exactly the salt of the earth.

[Crazyhorse]

Singing pro Tommy Robinson songs also . No wonder Sunderland hate them with a passion.
Always felt sorry for their fans as they always turned up in big numbers and never won sfa but not now .

I don’t follow your analysis here Erin. Are Sunderland fans leading some sort of anti-white supremacist progressive civil rights movement or something?
My experience of every support of every club I’ve ever watched is that they have a proportion of morons in their fan base. That said I’m a bit mystified by the chants last night.
For the record I’ve been watching Newcastle United home and away since Keegan was playing for them in the 1980s and this is the first time I’ve heard any of this crap. I’ve heard from several other Toon fans at the game who find this very embarrassing for the club.

[FilipinoHibs]

Singing pro Tommy Robinson songs also . No wonder Sunderland hate them with a passion.
Always felt sorry for their fans as they always turned up in big numbers and never won sfa but not now .
In the English civil war Newcastle supported the Royalists, Sunderland Oliver Cromwell and the Republicans. Cities of course.


But Newcastle only constituency in NE to vote for Remain.

[NadeAteMyLunch!]

Definitely.

I’ve been to loads of away games with Newcastle and never heard any Tommy Robinson, IRA related, Rule Brittania nonesense.

The “Matty scores, we’re on the pitch” is more like the sort of thing you’d be more likely to hear.

You are always going to get the Ingerlund/God save the Queen stuff whenever an English team is up playing in Scotland .. I mean even Berwick Rangers do it!

As for the “no wonder Sunderland hate them” comment [emoji23]

Yeah but there seems to be some bizarre belief amongst some English football fans that we are massively sectarian. We had the same nonsense when we played Nottingham Forest pre season a few years back and they were singing ***** about the IRA.
Guess that’s why the songs were sung last night whilst the Newcastle fans may not think to sing them at, for example, Leicester away. Sad and lazy from them last night.

[StevieC]

Yeah but there seems to be some bizarre belief amongst some English football fans that we are massively sectarian. We had the same nonsense when we played Nottingham Forest pre season a few years back and they were singing ***** about the IRA.
Guess that’s why the songs were sung last night whilst the Newcastle fans may not think to sing them at, for example, Leicester away. Sad and lazy from them last night.

Its a fair point. Unfortunately perceptions of Scottish football, south of the border, probably dont extend much beyond the sectarian bile of the OF.


Im sure we've all spent time with English friends/relatives trying to educate them about Scottish football .. but for the most part I suspect most view Scottish football as Celtic, Rangers, and a bunch of other teams.

To the uneducated, Hibs will probably be viewed in the same way as Celtic (and the tricolours that get aired at the "big" games wont help in dispelling that misconception) so IRA/fenian pish from hun sympathisers in the support is probably no great surprise.

As mentioned above, by a regular attender of Newcastle games, this sort of pish is not something you are ever likely to hear from the regular Newcastle support. I'm not that naive though, to not deny that there are probably bigots with their own agendas within most supports.


That said, I've seen a scramble for tickets from many Scottish fans, with Newcastle leanings, on various Facebook groups and ticket sites. Having seen some of their profile pages, they were clearly supports of Scottish teams (such as Rangers) with Newcastle being their "other" team.

[Antifa Hibs]

I think the toon support is infiltrated by a good few Geordie morons as well.

Similar to us in Carlisle tbf. Unless i'm mistaken did we not have a large number of phanny's singing "if you hate the *** english clap your hands"?

Friendlies seem to be an excuse to for a massive piss-up and generally attracts dafty's cos its a new day out and likely a one-off.

[007]

Does anyone know what the racist / pro Tommy Robinson chants were? It has been fairly widely reported but nowhere that I've seen has given a clue as to what the chants were.

[Since452]

There were a few Scottish Newcastle fans on my train home heading north fully dressed in black and white who were having a pop at our standard which i found quite baffling. Nothing like supporting your local team.

[Greenbeard]

Similar to us in Carlisle tbf. Unless i'm mistaken did we not have a large number of phanny's singing "if you hate the *** english clap your hands"?

Friendlies seem to be an excuse to for a massive piss-up and generally attracts dafty's cos its a new day out and likely a one-off.
Embarrassingly this was prob one of the most vociferous chants on Tuesday from our moronic section which numbered many. Embarrassing personally for me as I was in the company of two English folk who had been persuaded to come and see Hibs' attractive football. R Soles acting like brainless sheep. It doesn't make you more of a Scot to say, shout, sing that you hate the ****ing English.
I actually wonder what % of our ST holders are English or have an English parent.

[marinello59]

Similar to us in Carlisle tbf. Unless i'm mistaken did we not have a large number of phanny's singing "if you hate the *** english clap your hands"?

Friendlies seem to be an excuse to for a massive piss-up and generally attracts dafty's cos its a new day out and likely a one-off.

Aye, that was depressing. Thankfully it didn't last long.

[southsider]

Was walking past a group of lads gathered outside Middletons before the game with one idiot shouting 'All the Hibees are gay'. i replied 'Takes one to no one'. his mates burst out laughing and were giving him pelters as i walked on by.

[Hibeesmad]

Similar to us in Carlisle tbf. Unless i'm mistaken did we not have a large number of phanny's singing "if you hate the *** english clap your hands"?

Friendlies seem to be an excuse to for a massive piss-up and generally attracts dafty's cos its a new day out and likely a one-off.

Weird behaviour. Even our manager is English.

[ozhibs]

Weird behaviour. Even our manager is English.

I thought that at the time and half the players as well Okay so slight exaggeration :-)

[Crunchie]

Embarrassingly this was prob one of the most vociferous chants on Tuesday from our moronic section which numbered many. Embarrassing personally for me as I was in the company of two English folk who had been persuaded to come and see Hibs' attractive football. R Soles acting like brainless sheep. It doesn't make you more of a Scot to say, shout, sing that you hate the ****ing English.
I actually wonder what % of our ST holders are English or have an English parent.

Mainly sung in banter I would imagine. It was always sung against English teams and even the wee Rangers. I doubt any English people at the game would have taken any offence at any chants sung from our end.