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h18eeynick
21-07-2019, 08:07 PM
Taken from BBC Scotland match report after Blackburn Rovers draw today. Not sure what way to take it - compliment or insult ?

Going back to last season, the likes of when we played Hibs, our mistakes were costly in the league campaign and it was a similar story today. But sometimes you need a setback just so you see the warning signs that people can't get complacent. Today, getting a few setbacks is important because it will give us the kick up the backside we need."

Hibbyradge
21-07-2019, 08:10 PM
Taken from BBC Scotland match report after Blackburn Rovers draw today. Not sure what way to take it - compliment or insult ?

Going back to last season, the likes of when we played Hibs, our mistakes were costly in the league campaign and it was a similar story today. But sometimes you need a setback just so you see the warning signs that people can't get complacent. Today, getting a few setbacks is important because it will give us the kick up the backside we need."

It's neither a compliment or an insult.

It's his observations on his team's performances.

The 90+2
21-07-2019, 08:12 PM
There was a couple of games last season where they dominated big time only for us to clinically snatch a draw. I’m assuming that’s what he means. Not much to do with us, just them throwing victory away.

BILLYHIBS
21-07-2019, 08:12 PM
Probably still going on about Omeonga fouling his player on the edge of our box not getting the award and us scoring from the resulting counter attack 😁

h18eeynick
21-07-2019, 08:12 PM
It's neither a compliment or an insult.

It's his observations on his team's performances.

Why specifically mention Hibs though ?

Renton1875
21-07-2019, 08:19 PM
Why specifically mention Hibs though ?

Because it was the example that sprung to mind at the time? Don't think he's having a go at us.

hibee_nation
21-07-2019, 08:20 PM
Why specifically mention Hibs though ?

Cause we twice got away from a deserved doing and left with a draw, glad it still riles him.

Hibbyradge
21-07-2019, 08:23 PM
Why specifically mention Hibs though ?

It's just an example of when his team's mistakes cost them.

Given that you don't know if it's a compliment or an insult, you must be open to the possibility that it's neither, no?

h18eeynick
21-07-2019, 08:33 PM
It's just an example of when his team's mistakes cost them.

Given that you don't know if it's a compliment or an insult, you must be open to the possibility that it's neither, no?

Sure am hence asking the question. Just not sure what way to take it hence asking for opinions. I quite like him to be be honest as I think he gives an honest opinion on things and why I am not sure of what his view was with this - did we do well or should we be a roll over ?

h18eeynick
21-07-2019, 08:40 PM
Probably me thinking along the lines that we should expect to beat St mirren and Hamilton but dont !

BILLYHIBS
21-07-2019, 08:48 PM
I respected Steven Gerrard as a sublime quality midfielder

As Manager of The Rangers I do not know if he has been brainwashed but he seems to have bought into the Hun ethos and the world is against us mentality

The number of decisions The Hun got reversed in their favour last season was unreal

Going by his quote he must have loved Dazzas late equalising header at Ibroke last year :greengrin

The 90+2
21-07-2019, 08:55 PM
I respected Steven Gerrard as a sublime quality midfielder

As Manager of The Rangers I do not know if he has been brainwashed but he seems to have bought into the Hun ethos and the world is against us mentality

The number of decisions The Hun got reversed in their favour last season was unreal

Going by his quote he must have loved Dazzas late equalising header at Ibroke last year :greengrin

Nah I still see a winner in Gerrard regardless of who he manages he wants the best and wants to win. He’s always been a whinging bassa.

BILLYHIBS
21-07-2019, 09:00 PM
Nah I still see a winner in Gerrard regardless of who he manages he wants the best and wants to win. He’s always been a whinging bassa.

Did not say he wasn’t a winner

Agree he is a whinging bassa :greengrin

Here’s Lucy!
21-07-2019, 09:11 PM
Few things on this one:

As 90+2 has said, we were skinned by them twice and snatched draws. He’s not happy about that!

He has neither complimented or insulted us, he’s purely made comments regarding these games.

He’s a winner. Like him or hate him, he’s a winner. Unlike his wee pal Lampard who is a tool.

He will implode when we take them to the cleaners in the coming season.

Bring it on!

Here’s Lucy!
21-07-2019, 09:14 PM
Did not say he wasn’t a winner

Agree he is a whinging bassa :greengrin

Billy?

He only sounds like a whinger because of that bloody Scouse accent!

Dunbar Hibee
21-07-2019, 09:20 PM
Few things on this one:

As 90+2 has said, we were skinned by them twice and snatched draws. He’s not happy about that!

He has neither complimented or insulted us, he’s purely made comments regarding these games.


He’s a winner. Like him or hate him, he’s a winner. Unlike his wee pal Lampard who is a tool.

He will implode when we take them to the cleaners in the coming season.

Bring it on!

I think you’ll find his wee pal Lampard is much more of a winner than Gerrard will ever be. 🤔

Smartie
21-07-2019, 09:31 PM
His players have been complimentary about us in every post-match interview they have done, so I think he had it drilled into them that we were a decent side.

I think it is a compliment. Against a lot of teams Rangers will get away with not being at their best. Against us and Blackburn, they will not and will need to be more clinical than they have been in order to get a result.

Here’s Lucy!
21-07-2019, 09:32 PM
I think you’ll find his wee pal Lampard is much more of a winner than Gerrard will ever be. 🤔

Frankie boy is a pain. Trust me.

When the story was doing the rounds that they both couldn’t play in the same England midfield, there was one obvious choice to make. It wasn’t the sky kisser.

I don’t think I will find that you are correct in your somewhat direct post, but am happy to beg to differ.

southsider
21-07-2019, 09:38 PM
I think you’ll find his wee pal Lampard is much more of a winner than Gerrard will ever be. 🤔

Plays up to the total **** in the home support. Guilty of one of the worst ‘challenges (v Everton) I have ever seen. Hate him and their rotten to the core club.

AugustaHibs
21-07-2019, 09:40 PM
Frankie boy is a pain. Trust me.

When the story was doing the rounds that they both couldn’t play in the same England midfield, there was one obvious choice to make. It wasn’t the sky kisser.

I don’t think I will find that you are correct in your somewhat direct post, but am happy to beg to differ.

Could you clarify what you mean by sky kisser? I can also guarantee that Lampard has won more playing and will continue to win more as a manager.

Sir David Gray
21-07-2019, 09:48 PM
Few things on this one:

As 90+2 has said, we were skinned by them twice and snatched draws. He’s not happy about that!

He has neither complimented or insulted us, he’s purely made comments regarding these games.

He’s a winner. Like him or hate him, he’s a winner. Unlike his wee pal Lampard who is a tool.

He will implode when we take them to the cleaners in the coming season.

Bring it on!

Lampard's won more in his career than Gerrard.

Here’s Lucy!
21-07-2019, 09:50 PM
Could you clarify what you mean by sky kisser? I can also guarantee that Lampard has won more playing and will continue to win more as a manager.

Thanks for the guarantee.

Re. ‘Sky kisser’. Think back a few years.

Mr Heaven.

Here’s Lucy!
21-07-2019, 09:51 PM
Lampard's won more in his career than Gerrard.

Who, in your opinion, was the better midfielder?

It wasn’t wee Franko.

The 90+2
21-07-2019, 09:59 PM
Thanks for the guarantee.

Re. ‘Sky kisser’. Think back a few years.

Mr Heaven.

Is that not because his mum died and he dedicated every goal to her?

AugustaHibs
21-07-2019, 10:02 PM
Thanks for the guarantee.

Re. ‘Sky kisser’. Think back a few years.

Mr Heaven.

Surely you’re at it? Have a word with yourself if you’re talking about his goal celebrations.

Can you also explain why you dislike him so much? And also why you give a **** who plays/played in England’s midfield

AugustaHibs
21-07-2019, 10:03 PM
Who, in your opinion, was the better midfielder?

It wasn’t wee Franko.

Why do you keep using stupid nicknames aswell?

JimboHibs
21-07-2019, 10:07 PM
Who, in your opinion, was the better midfielder?

It wasn’t wee Franko.

For me Gerard was the better midfielder and thats no slight on Lampard as he was fantastic at Chelsea.

worcesterhibby
21-07-2019, 10:14 PM
Lampard has won more in his career.

Much more. Three league Titles to zero is the big difference.

Lampard


Premier League (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Premier_League): 2004–05 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004%E2%80%9305_FA_Premier_League), 2005–06 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005%E2%80%9306_FA_Premier_League), 2009–10 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009%E2%80%9310_Premier_League)[231] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Lampard#cite_note-PremProfile-232)
FA Cup (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FA_Cup): 2006–07 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_FA_Cup_Final), 2008–09 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_FA_Cup_Final), 2009–10 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_FA_Cup_Final), 2011–12 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_FA_Cup_Final)
Football League Cup (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EFL_Cup): 2004–05 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005_Football_League_Cup_Final), 2006–07 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_Football_League_Cup_Final)
FA Community Shield (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FA_Community_Shield): 2005 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005_FA_Community_Shield), 2009 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_FA_Community_Shield)
UEFA Champions League (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Champions_League): 2011–12 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_UEFA_Champions_League_Final)
UEFA Europa League (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Europa_League): 2012–13 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_UEFA_Europa_League_Final)


Gerard


FA Cup (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FA_Cup): 2000–01 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000%E2%80%9301_FA_Cup),[244] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Gerrard#cite_note-252) 2005–06 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005%E2%80%9306_FA_Cup)[245] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Gerrard#cite_note-253)
Football League Cup (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EFL_Cup): 2000–01 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000%E2%80%9301_Football_League_Cup),[246] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Gerrard#cite_note-254) 2002–03 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2002%E2%80%9303_Football_League_Cup),[247] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Gerrard#cite_note-255) 2011–12 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011%E2%80%9312_Football_League_Cup)[248] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Gerrard#cite_note-256)
FA Community Shield (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FA_Community_Shield): 2006 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_FA_Community_Shield)[249] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Gerrard#cite_note-257)
UEFA Champions League (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Champions_League): 2004–05 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004%E2%80%9305_UEFA_Champions_League)[250] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Gerrard#cite_note-258)
UEFA Cup (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Europa_League): 2000–01 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000%E2%80%9301_UEFA_Cup)[251] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Gerrard#cite_note-259)
UEFA Super Cup (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Super_Cup): 2001 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2001_UEFA_Super_Cup)[252] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Gerrard#cite_note-260)

Scouse Hibee
21-07-2019, 10:22 PM
[QUOTE=worcesterhibby;5853685]Lampard has won more in his career.

Much more. Three league Titles to zero is the big difference.

Lampard


Premier League (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Premier_League): 2004–05 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004%E2%80%9305_FA_Premier_League), 2005–06 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005%E2%80%9306_FA_Premier_League), 2009–10 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009%E2%80%9310_Premier_League)[231] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Lampard#cite_note-PremProfile-232)
FA Cup (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FA_Cup): 2006–07 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_FA_Cup_Final), 2008–09 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_FA_Cup_Final), 2009–10 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_FA_Cup_Final), 2011–12 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_FA_Cup_Final)
Football League Cup (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EFL_Cup): 2004–05 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005_Football_League_Cup_Final), 2006–07 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_Football_League_Cup_Final)
FA Community Shield (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FA_Community_Shield): 2005 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005_FA_Community_Shield), 2009 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_FA_Community_Shield)
UEFA Champions League (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Champions_League): 2011–12 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_UEFA_Champions_League_Final)
UEFA Europa League (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Europa_League): 2012–13 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_UEFA_Europa_League_Final)


Gerard


FA Cup (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FA_Cup): 2000–01 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000%E2%80%9301_FA_Cup),[244] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Gerrard#cite_note-252) 2005–06 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005%E2%80%9306_FA_Cup)[245] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Gerrard#cite_note-253)
Football League Cup (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EFL_Cup): 2000–01 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000%E2%80%9301_Football_League_Cup),[246] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Gerrard#cite_note-254) 2002–03 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2002%E2%80%9303_Football_League_Cup),[247] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Gerrard#cite_note-255) 2011–12 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011%E2%80%9312_Football_League_Cup)[248] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Gerrard#cite_note-256)
FA Community Shield (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FA_Community_Shield): 2006 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_FA_Community_Shield)[249] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Gerrard#cite_note-257)
UEFA Champions League (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Champions_League): 2004–05 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004%E2%80%9305_UEFA_Champions_League)[250] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Gerrard#cite_note-258)
UEFA Cup (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Europa_League): 2000–01 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000%E2%80%9301_UEFA_Cup)[251] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Gerrard#cite_note-259)
UEFA Super Cup (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Super_Cup): 2001 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2001_UEFA_Super_Cup)[252] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Gerrard#cite_note-260)
[/QUOTE

It’s not necessarily about the count, Lampard played in a Chelsea team that was far superior to Liverpool over the same period. The description of Gerrard as a winner was down to his ability to massively influence a game and grab it by the scruff of the neck so to speak, hence the “Gerrard” FA cup final and the CL victory in Istanbul.

Torto7
21-07-2019, 10:25 PM
Lampard was more of a winner and a more cultured footballer despite what the Slippy cultists repeat ad nauseum. The comment above about him pointing to the sky shows the mindset of these people. They look for something to hate in Lampard but can't find it because he's a gent. Slippy on the other hand was a nasty little thug and a prolific diver.

Lampard ran the midfield everytime he went up against Barcelona at their peak.There isn't a bigger compliment than that.

Oh and he won more......much more.

JohnM1875
21-07-2019, 10:26 PM
It's not even close for me.

Lampard is easily better than Gerrard. Though Lampard is probably my favourite midfield player and I appreciate it's all about opinions.

Also never understood the Scholes hype.

Smartie
21-07-2019, 10:37 PM
It's not even close for me.

Lampard is easily better than Gerrard. Though Lampard is probably my favourite midfield player and I appreciate it's all about opinions.

Also never understood the Scholes hype.

I loved Scholes, my kind of player.

He was better than the other pair added together.

LancsHibs
21-07-2019, 10:39 PM
Gerrard is welt, disliked him before he became Hun manager, even more so now he is

Hibbyradge
21-07-2019, 10:40 PM
It's not even close for me.

Lampard is easily better than Gerrard. Though Lampard is probably my favourite midfield player and I appreciate it's all about opinions.

Also never understood the Scholes hype.

For whatever reason, you might not have appreciated Paul Scholes, but it wasn't hype.

11 league titles and 2 Champions Leagues along with a dozen or so others proves that.

BILLYHIBS
21-07-2019, 10:43 PM
I loved Scholes, my kind of player.

He was better than the other pair added together.

Bossed Scotland at Hampden 1999 play off Battle of Britain 0-2 scored two

Scotland being Scotland snatched defeat from the jaws of victory winning the second leg at Wembley 1-0

I can still remember Christian Dailly booting the dressing room door :greengrin

Scouse Hibee
21-07-2019, 10:47 PM
Lampard was more of a winner and a more cultured footballer despite what the Slippy cultists repeat ad nauseum. The comment above about him pointing to the sky shows the mindset of these people. They look for something to hate in Lampard but can't find it because he's a gent. Slippy on the other hand was a nasty little thug and a prolific diver.

Lampard ran the midfield everytime he went up against Barcelona at their peak.There isn't a bigger compliment than that.

Oh and he won more......much more.

😂 I think you might be a bit biased, I get the feeling that you don’t like Gerrard and your slippy comment is boring predictable crap. I preferred Gerrard but I can recognise what a fantastic footballer Lampard was. Your dismissal of Gerrard’s talent is ridiculous.

Pagan Hibernia
21-07-2019, 10:54 PM
For whatever reason, you might not have appreciated Paul Scholes, but it wasn't hype.

11 league titles and 2 Champions Leagues along with a dozen or so others proves that.

:agree:

When Scholes played well, Ferguson’s United played well.

He was a joy to watch and underrated if anything. A sublime talent.

Hibeesmad
21-07-2019, 11:20 PM
Gerrard is a big character who has had a lot of influence on others throughout his career. I actually think he will go on to be successful in his managerial career. Just hopefully not at Rangers. Wouldn't be surprised to see him end up back at Liverpool in similar fashion to Lampard at Chelsea.

marinello59
22-07-2019, 12:17 AM
Gerrard is a big character who has had a lot of influence on others throughout his career. I actually think he will go on to be successful in his managerial career. Just hopefully not at Rangers. Wouldn't be surprised to see him end up back at Liverpool in similar fashion to Lampard at Chelsea.

I’m no fan of him but it can’t be denied that he has improved Sevco considerably. Hopefully he proves to be a one season wonder and it all goes wrong for him this time round.

Deansy
22-07-2019, 04:46 AM
Taken from BBC Scotland match report after Blackburn Rovers draw today. Not sure what way to take it - compliment or insult ?

Going back to last season, the likes of when we played Hibs, our mistakes were costly in the league campaign and it was a similar story today. But sometimes you need a setback just so you see the warning signs that people can't get complacent. Today, getting a few setbacks is important because it will give us the kick up the backside we need."


He's manager of the Hun - somewhere in that statement there's an insult as it's the nature of the beasts !

Since452
22-07-2019, 05:49 AM
Lived in their heads rent free since 21/5/16. The ammount of Rangers fans who comment on Hibs content on Twitter, YouTube etc is frightening. Pleasing.

worcesterhibby
22-07-2019, 08:29 AM
Scholes, Lampard and Gerrard were all brilliant midfielders. All the more humorous that they consistently failed to achieve anything with England.

Lampard would be my pick, with Scholes a close second and Gerrard 3rd.

Lampard was the better scorer and smooth distributor. Scholes was the best passer and you have to love his rocket shots, and Gerrard the best at driving with the ball. Of the three Gerrard was the biggest diver and is now a Hun.

Here’s Lucy!
22-07-2019, 11:05 AM
Surely you’re at it? Have a word with yourself if you’re talking about his goal celebrations.

Can you also explain why you dislike him so much? And also why you give a **** who plays/played in England’s midfield

Ok, I concede that I was perhaps a wee bit harsh as to the reasons for his celebrations but, it did drag on a bit and led to footballers across Europe copying it. Not my sort of thing, sorry.


Why do you keep using stupid nicknames aswell?

Nicknames are common place in football and I like to use my chosen ones. I don’t think they’re stupid but you are well entitled to your opinion on them. :aok:


For me Gerard was the better midfielder and thats no slight on Lampard as he was fantastic at Chelsea.

This is in a nutshell what I was driving at. :aok: Thanks for wording it more succinctly than myself, Jimbo.

I too thought Paul Scholes was a great player btw.

AugustaHibs
22-07-2019, 11:18 AM
Ok, I concede that I was perhaps a wee bit harsh as to the reasons for his celebrations but, it did drag on a bit and led to footballers across Europe copying it. Not my sort of thing, sorry.



Nicknames are common place in football and I like to use my chosen ones. I don’t think they’re stupid but you are well entitled to your opinion on them. :aok:



This is in a nutshell what I was driving at. :aok: Thanks for wording it more succinctly than myself, Jimbo.

I too thought Paul Scholes was a great player btw.

How did it drag on a bit? It’s a goal celebration for **** sake it’s not exactly being rammed down your throat

Since452
22-07-2019, 11:19 AM
None of them were as good as John McGinn. Fact.

Barman Stanton
22-07-2019, 11:22 AM
I liked both Lampard and Gerrard as players. To say neither was a winner is just pretty dumb really. Since the 3 are always brought up together though, I do think Scholes was the best player out of them. There was nothing he couldn't do.

WeeRussell
22-07-2019, 11:29 AM
I liked both Lampard and Gerrard as players. To say neither was a winner is just pretty dumb really. Since the 3 are always brought up together though, I do think Scholes was the best player out of them. There was nothing he couldn't do.

Tackle? :greengrin

Here’s Lucy!
22-07-2019, 11:48 AM
How did it drag on a bit? It’s a goal celebration for **** sake it’s not exactly being rammed down your throat


Ok, you’re splitting hairs here plus being a tad obtuse and objectionable.

In case you weren’t however, allow me to try again.

When I said ‘dragged on a bit’ I was referring to the months and months it went on for, not how long the actual thing took to act out.

You probably knew that was what I meant though.

Here’s Lucy!
22-07-2019, 11:49 AM
None of them were as good as John McGinn. Fact.

Obvs.

TrinityHibs
22-07-2019, 11:51 AM
For whatever reason, you might not have appreciated Paul Scholes, but it wasn't hype.

11 league titles and 2 Champions Leagues along with a dozen or so others proves that.

Scholes was suspended for the 1999 final although to be fair he did help them get there.

Barman Stanton
22-07-2019, 11:54 AM
Tackle? :greengrin

He could, he was just also a sneaky bugger who liked to catch the player :greengrin.

Barman Stanton
22-07-2019, 12:00 PM
Rightly or wrongly, Gerards inability to win a League title will always be a slight against him.

Truly great players like Maradona could drag teams to titles (I have no other examples in fairness :greengrin)

Here’s Lucy!
22-07-2019, 01:08 PM
He could, he was just also a sneaky bugger who liked to catch the player :greengrin.

As opposed to the much unappreciated Nicky Butt. He was a great wee midfielder but without the niggly side to him that Scholes had.

Here’s Lucy!
22-07-2019, 01:09 PM
Rightly or wrongly, Gerards inability to win a League title will always be a slight against him.

Truly great players like Maradona could drag teams to titles (I have no other examples in fairness :greengrin)

I’ll grant you that.

I can’t think of any other examples either btw!

Pagan Hibernia
22-07-2019, 01:10 PM
As opposed to the much unappreciated Nicky Butt. He was a great wee midfielder but without the niggly side to him that Scholes had.

.

Here’s Lucy!
22-07-2019, 01:12 PM
Eric Cantona dragged United to the title the year after his suspension. Though whether he was a truly great player is open to debate

Eric was a great player and a fantastically charismatic personality.

Good point, btw :aok:

Pagan Hibernia
22-07-2019, 01:14 PM
Eric was a great player and a fantastically charismatic personality.

Good point, btw :aok:

yes, apologies LB, I mistakenly relied to your quote as opposed to the one above

Here’s Lucy!
22-07-2019, 01:16 PM
yes, apologies LB, I mistakenly relied to your quote as opposed to the one above

No bother, I noticed that but just answered anyhow!

:thumbsup:

WeeRussell
22-07-2019, 04:10 PM
Ok, you’re splitting hairs here plus being a tad obtuse and objectionable.

In case you weren’t however, allow me to try again.

When I said ‘dragged on a bit’ I was referring to the months and months it went on for, not how long the actual thing took to act out.

You probably knew that was what I meant though.

It would have went on for years and years... it was his goal celebration, and he scored a fair few.

Far more annoying celebrations out there than Lampard's tribute, in my opinion. That f***** 'goggle-eyes' type thing some do with their hands for starters. :grr:

we are hibs
22-07-2019, 04:47 PM
Gerrard shouldn't be mentioned in the same breath as scholes. Scholes won titles. Gerrard didn't.

bigwheel
22-07-2019, 05:50 PM
Gerrard shouldn't be mentioned in the same breath as scholes. Scholes won titles. Gerrard didn't.

Come in. That’s just ridiculous...Gerard’s loyalty to Liverpool should be applauded. He was a top class footballer ..right up there with the Scholes of this world ...

greenlex
22-07-2019, 05:58 PM
I’m sure most of the top players of that era hold Scholes in high regard. One in particular ( I can’t remember who but it surprised me at the time) saying he was the best midfielder he had ever played against.

Sammy7nil
22-07-2019, 06:03 PM
I’m sure most of the top players of that era hold Scholes in high regard. One in particular ( I can’t remember who but it surprised me at the time) saying he was the best midfielder he had ever played against.

Brian Hamilton?











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Tyler Durden
22-07-2019, 06:13 PM
I’m sure most of the top players of that era hold Scholes in high regard. One in particular ( I can’t remember who but it surprised me at the time) saying he was the best midfielder he had ever played against.

Think Iniesta and Xavi both raved about Scholes

Smartie
22-07-2019, 09:15 PM
I’m sure most of the top players of that era hold Scholes in high regard. One in particular ( I can’t remember who but it surprised me at the time) saying he was the best midfielder he had ever played against.

It was Zidane.

Or was it Pirlo?

Sure it was Zidane.

My favourite 3 midfielders anyway.

Here’s Lucy!
22-07-2019, 09:15 PM
Come in. That’s just ridiculous...Gerard’s loyalty to Liverpool should be applauded. He was a top class footballer ..right up there with the Scholes of this world ...

Of course he was, my whole point exactly.


Think Iniesta and Xavi both raved about Scholes

They did indeed.

Here’s Lucy!
22-07-2019, 09:21 PM
It was Zidane.
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Or was it Pirlo?

Sure it was Zidane.

My favourite 3 midfielders anyway.

It was the wonderful Zizou.

I would have married him then, and I would marry him now.

Zinedine, not Paul, you understand?