John Leslie again

[Moulin Yarns]

Breaking news that John Leslie has been charged with sexual offences that happened in 2008

Another celebrity named and shamed before trial

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

At least you've highlighted it though. 😕

[Steve-O]

Breaking news that John Leslie has been charged with sexual offences that happened in 2008

Another celebrity named and shamed before trial

Who says he’s going to trial?

[Hibernia&Alba]

There's something about that guy that makes me very uneasy.

[Moulin Yarns]

There's something about that guy that makes me very uneasy.

I don't think you are his type 😉

[Hibernia&Alba]

I don't think you are his type 😉

:hilarious

:top marks

[Smartie]

There's something about that guy that makes me very uneasy.

I have a few mates who know him well, and based on their tales of what he says and does (especially on nights out) it is little surprise that he never seems far from bother.

Saying that though, he always seems to be deemed guilty until proven innocent which isn't a healthy state of affairs.

[Fife-Hibee]

Has he ever been found guilty?

Seems like the edgy type who pushes the boundaries a bit with a drink in him. Sexual offence is becoming an increasingly broader term though.

As usual, headlines and no real details into the matter.

[Future17]

Who says he’s going to trial?

Nobody has.

[Hibernia&Alba]

Has he ever been found guilty?

Seems like the edgy type who pushes the boundaries a bit with a drink in him. Sexual offence is becoming an increasingly broader term though.

As usual, headlines and no real details into the matter.

I don't think he has.

[G B Young]

Has he ever been found guilty?

Seems like the edgy type who pushes the boundaries a bit with a drink in him. Sexual offence is becoming an increasingly broader term though.

As usual, headlines and no real details into the matter.

I'm assuming the lack of details are due to the fact proceedings are now active and there will be attendant reporting restrictions.

As somebody else has pointed out, he definitely had something of a 'reputation' back in the day. But you're right, he's never actually been convicted of any sexual offence. IIRC the charges were dropped in the case which effectively destroyed his career some 15 years ago, while there have been further allegations since (the most recent of which I think was ultimately found 'not proven').

On an unrelated note he certainly comes from a big Hibby family. I recall sitting near him, his brother and his dad at a few Hibs games down the years plus I remember when he used to be the goalkeeper for London Hibs in the supporters league down there (does that league still exist?). He also wore a Hands Off Hibs T shirt on an episode of Blue Peter at the time of the Mercer saga.

[Newry Hibs]

A quote from the Thick Of It ..
“Who was it that did your media training, Myra Hindley? It’s terrible! All these hands all over the place. You were like a sweaty octopus trying to unhook a bra. It was like watching John Leslie at work.”

[steakbake]

Scratching the surface.

[pollution]

I wonder if the 11 years gap between the alleged offence and accusation will have an effect on any possible trial?

[The Modfather]

I’d have thought after 11 years it would boil down to his word v the accuser. Although in saying that the Saville, Cosby & Weinstein charges show that it is possible to successfully prosecute after a long time after the fact.

[Billy Whizz]

I’d have thought after 11 years it would boil down to his word v the accuser. Although in saying that the Saville, Cosby & Weinstein charges show that it is possible to successfully prosecute after a long time after the fact.

Think most of Saville’s convictions were after he passed away

[Steve-O]

Think most of Saville’s convictions were after he passed away

Saville was never convicted of anything. And hasn't been, because you can't convict the dead.

[Hibrandenburg]

Cleared by a Jury.

[Colr]

I’d have thought after 11 years it would boil down to his word v the accuser. Although in saying that the Saville, Cosby & Weinstein charges show that it is possible to successfully prosecute after a long time after the fact.

It was Ulrika that kicked this all off wasn’t it?

She never stood up to defend him or clear his name which suggests some bad feeling towards him (to say the least).

It seems to have opened the floodgates and his past indiscretions are coming back to haunt him.

As others have said, very difficult to prove these incidents especially after such a long time.

[Peevemor]

It was Ulrika that kicked this all off wasn’t it?

She never stood up to defend him or clear his name which suggests some bad feeling towards him (to say the least).

It seems to have opened the floodgates and his past indiscretions are coming back to haunt him.

As others have said, very difficult to prove these incidents especially after such a long time.

It was interesting to see his former (female) co-presenters sticking up for him last week - each saying that the way JL was portrayed in the tabloids didn't match the man they know/knew.

[Since90+2]

Cleared unanimously by the jury in only 23 minutes.

[G B Young]

It was Ulrika that kicked this all off wasn’t it?

She never stood up to defend him or clear his name which suggests some bad feeling towards him (to say the least).

It seems to have opened the floodgates and his past indiscretions are coming back to haunt him.

As others have said, very difficult to prove these incidents especially after such a long time.

Matthew Wright (wrongly) named him as Ulrika's assailant and apologised for doing so but it effectively destroyed Leslie's career.

[lord bunberry]

Matthew Wright (wrongly) named him as Ulrika's assailant and apologised for doing so but it effectively destroyed Leslie's career.
I’m sure I’ve read that it wasn’t an accident and had been planned with Leslies consent.

[Colr]

Matthew Wright (wrongly) named him as Ulrika's assailant and apologised for doing so but it effectively destroyed Leslie's career.

I recall that. Jonsson never commented one way or the other though. Where did Wright get his information from? Although he has been sued before for making things up.

[Frazerbob]

I’m sure I’ve read that it wasn’t an accident and had been planned with Leslies consent.

Why would JL consent to that? Am I missing something?

[G B Young]

After Monday's verdict Judge Deborah Taylor said: "Mr Stott, for a second time you leave this court without a stain on your character and I hope it will be the last time you have to attend."

Implication (especially bearing in mind how rapidly the jury returned their verdict) that this should not have neeeded to come to court.

Anyone on here ever play alongside him when was the London Hibs goalkeeper?

[H18 SFR]

I’m delighted for John Leslie hearing the verdict just now.

The man has been through so much over nearly two decades. Quite inspirational how he has dealt with all this.

[Nakedmanoncrack]

After Monday's verdict Judge Deborah Taylor said: "Mr Stott, for a second time you leave this court without a stain on your character and I hope it will be the last time you have to attend."

Implication (especially bearing in mind how rapidly the jury returned their verdict) that this should not have neeeded to come to court.

Anyone on here ever play alongside him when was the London Hibs goalkeeper?

Based on what has been in the public domain, it's hard to see why this was ever allowed to proceed to trial, when there was little chance of a successful prosecution. An alleged historic offence of such nature would normally be very unlikely to get anywhere near court.

[lord bunberry]

Why would JL consent to that? Am I missing something?
It had got to the stage that everyone knew but couldn’t say and they felt it was better out in the open.

[cabbageandribs1875]

I’m sure I’ve read that it wasn’t an accident and had been planned with Leslies consent.



iirc 'accidently' naming him stopped any chance of a fair trial

[RitchieHibs]

I’m delighted for John Leslie hearing the verdict just now.

The man has been through so much over nearly two decades. Quite inspirational how he has dealt with all this.

:top marks

Anyone might think he has unwittingly or wittingly got on the wrong side of the masons. They're well known for putting the so called black spot on unsuspecting Hibs/Celtic minded folk. Time we got rid of underlying sectarianism here in Scotland and voted for Independence. A clean slate.

[lord bunberry]

iirc 'accidently' naming him stopped any chance of a fair trial
I hadn’t thought of that. I’m sure him and Wright were under the same management team.

[The Modfather]

:top marks

Anyone might think he has unwittingly or wittingly got on the wrong side of the masons. They're well known for putting the so called black spot on unsuspecting Hibs/Celtic minded folk. Time we got rid of underlying sectarianism here in Scotland and voted for Independence. A clean slate.

Should this post not be on the conspiracy thread?

[Pretty Boy]

I'm not sure who's interests were served by taking this case to court. It goes without saying that someone who believes they were a victim of a sexual offence has the right to report it regardless of the passage of time. However in this instance the chance of a conviction seemed ridiculously improbable. For the accuser it must have been something of an ordeal to face the man she believes assaulted her. Will she feel any better tonight for having had her day in court? I'd doubt it. I daresay Leslie take little pleasure from these acquittals now, the damage is done to his career and reputation.

More generally I find some of the stories and opinions around Leslie interesting. I know a couple of people who know him personally and they are fiercely loyal to him. They will not hear a word said against him and will not entertain the notion there is potentially a darker side to him. They insist that whilst he enjoys the company of women and maybe pushes a few boundaries he always stays on the right side of the line. It would appear a number of his ex colleagues share that loyalty to him. On the flip side I know one Edinburgh bar owner who won't allow him into his establishment due to alleged conduct in the past. Going back a few years if was quite well known that he was banned from an entire group of bars in Edinburgh.

For the sake of everyone involved I hope the Police and the CPS/COPFS think carefully before taking any similar cases to court in the future.

[RitchieHibs]

Should this post not be on the conspiracy thread?

Not at all. I know of more than a few Trinity Academy pupils excluded from an education for mere mischief making. They were all Hibs and Dundee United fans. I also know of many Hearts/Rangers who did much worse yet ended up in decent careers. No conspiracy whatsoever.

[Just Alf]

Should this post not be on the conspiracy thread?Said poster seems to drop these 'grenade' type posts on a number of threads, I'm sure there's a word for that sort behaviour.

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[RitchieHibs]

I'm not sure who's interests were served by taking this case to court. It goes without saying that someone who believes they were a victim of a sexual offence has the right to report it regardless of the passage of time. However in this instance the chance of a conviction seemed ridiculously improbable. For the accuser it must have been something of an ordeal to face the man she believes assaulted her. Will she feel any better tonight for having had her day in court? I'd doubt it. I daresay Leslie take little pleasure from these acquittals now, the damage is done to his career and reputation.

More generally I find some of the stories and opinions around Leslie interesting. I know a couple of people who know him personally and they are fiercely loyal to him. They will not hear a word said against him and will not entertain the notion there is potentially a darker side to him. They insist that whilst he enjoys the company of women and maybe pushes a few boundaries he always stays on the right side of the line. It would appear a number of his ex colleagues share that loyalty to him. On the flip side I know one Edinburgh bar owner who won't allow him into his establishment due to alleged conduct in the past. Going back a few years if was quite well known that he was banned from an entire group of bars in Edinburgh.

For the sake of everyone involved I hope the Police and the CPS/COPFS think carefully before taking any similar cases to court in the future.

:top marks

Whatever the rights or wrongs of what John Leslie did or didn't, they made sure his tv career would not progress. Reeks.

[RitchieHibs]

Said poster seems to drop these 'grenade' type posts on a number of threads, I'm sure there's a word for that sort behaviour.

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There certainly is my man,

Its called balance.

We all want a fair Scotland. Not one that openly calls us 9999-08 b stards while we sit quietly being discriminated against shirley?

[Scouse Hibee]

John Leslie and allegations of a sexual nature seem to be a reoccurring theme that always has me wondering. However innocent until proven guilty is undeniable, the damage these allegations have done both professionally and personally are irreversible and you have to feel for the guy if he really has done nothing wrong. Hopefully this is the end of it.

[The Modfather]

There certainly is my man,

Its called balance.

We all want a fair Scotland. Not one that openly calls us 9999-08 b stards while we sit quietly being discriminated against shirley?

Would you not be better starting a new thread specifically about the masons and their skullduggery rather than take both taking the knee and the John Leslie threads off topic? Or are you saying it is a co-ordinated campaign by the masons against John Leslie?

[Scouse Hibee]

:top marks

Anyone might think he has unwittingly or wittingly got on the wrong side of the masons. They're well known for putting the so called black spot on unsuspecting Hibs/Celtic minded folk. Time we got rid of underlying sectarianism here in Scotland and voted for Independence. A clean slate.

A few good friends of mine are both masons and good Hibees.

[RitchieHibs]

John Leslie and allegations of a sexual nature seem to be a reoccurring theme that always has me wondering. However innocent until proven guilty is undeniable, the damage these allegations have done both professionally and personally are irreversible and you have to feel for the guy if he really has done nothing wrong. Hopefully this is the end of it.

You should know better Scouse. How many papers/media led with the Liverpool supporters shoulder charged the gates or rioted to get in? Once they (masons) take against a Hibs/Celtic/Scouse/Welsh/Irish upstart they never give in. Time for Independence. F900o the jambo/hun masons. Lets get balance and control of the horrendous anti Catholic/Hibs/Celtic situation once and for all.

[RitchieHibs]

A few good friends of mine are both masons and good Hibees.

No friends of mine. Absolute anti catholic/hibs shunts.

[Scouse Hibee]

You should know better Scouse. How many papers/media led with the Liverpool supporters shoulder charged the gates or rioted to get in? Once they (masons) take against a Hibs/Celtic/Scouse/Welsh/Irish upstart they never give in. Time for Independence. F900o the jambo/hun masons. Lets get balance and control of the horrendous anti Catholic/Hibs/Celtic situation once and for all.

Not interested in any religious bollox on a football forum and certainly don’t want to listen to you linking Hillsborough with some form of religious bias so you can cut that chat right out with me. I’ll leave it there, goodnight.

[RitchieHibs]

Not interested in any religious bollox on a football forum and certainly don’t want to listen to you linking Hillsborough with some form of religious bias so you can cut that chat right out with me.

Nae worries. Don't involve yourself with what you consider (not me) controversial chat then.

Let others worry about it. Those who involve themselves.

[Pretty Boy]

For the sake of clarity it's probably worth pointing out that the Catholic Church forbids Catholics from being Freemasons rather than the Masons themselves being inherently anti Catholic or forbidding Catholics from being members (if we distinguish between the anti clerical Grand Orient Masons of the French 3rd Republic and the rite of Freemasonry active in Scotland and the wider English speaking world that is).

In eminenti apostolatus, Humanum Genus, the encyclicals of the 2nd Vatican Council and most recently the teaching of Pope Benedict XVI, in his previous role as Prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, the Churches position is explained quite clearly: a Catholic who joins the Masons is guilty of grave sin and can't receive Holy Communion. Incidentally the current Catholic Encyclopedia, which details the Canon Law, among other things, has removed claims about anti Catholicism in the Scottish Rite of Freemasonry that was included in previous editions.

Anyway I'm not quite sure how a thread about John Leslie led to a debate about Freemasonry and Catholicism. They joys of hibs.net.

[RitchieHibs]

For the sake of clarity it's probably worth pointing out that the Catholic Church forbids Catholics from being Freemasons rather than the Masons themselves being inherently anti Catholic or forbidding Catholics from being members (if we distinguish between the anti clerical Grand Orient Masons of the French 3rd Republic and the rite of Freemasonry active in Scotland and the wider English speaking world that is).

In eminenti apostolatus, Humanum Genus, the encyclicals of the 2nd Vatican Council and most recently the teaching of Pope Benedict XVI, in his previous role as Prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, the Churches position is explained quite clearly: a Catholic who joins the Masons is guilty of grave sin and can't receive Holy Communion. Incidentally the current Catholic Encyclopedia, which details the Canon Law, among other things, has removed claims about anti Catholicism in the Scottish Rite of Freemasonry that was included in previous editions.

Anyway I'm not quite sure how a thread about John Leslie led to a debate about Freemasonry and Catholicism. They joys of hibs.net.

Well explained. Free Masonry that is unfortunately brainwashed within British and Scottish culture is a discriminatory backstop element to catholicism. Undoubtedly Catholics and Hibs/Celtic minded folk have been discriminated against for centuries here in Britain and Scotland akin to racism. Its time we took a united stand. Independence is a clean slate for all. God Bless.

[Hiber-nation]

:top marks

Anyone might think he has unwittingly or wittingly got on the wrong side of the masons. They're well known for putting the so called black spot on unsuspecting Hibs/Celtic minded folk. Time we got rid of underlying sectarianism here in Scotland and voted for Independence. A clean slate.

And the most bizarre off topic post of 2020 goes to.....:confused:

[Future17]

And the most bizarre off topic post of 2020 goes to.....:confused:

Every thread is an Independence thread to this poster. I have to remind myself they're an extremist so as not to subconsciously react negatively to the independence cause as a result.

I actually suspect they might be a double agent! :greengrin Either that or they're unaware of the effect of their behaviour on some others.

[Keith_M]

And the most bizarre off topic post of 2020 goes to.....:confused:


:agree:

[Hiber-nation]

Every thread is an Independence thread to this poster. I have to remind myself they're an extremist so as not to subconsciously react negatively to the independence cause as a result.

I actually suspect they might be a double agent! :greengrin Either that or they're unaware of the effect of their behaviour on some others.

:hmmm:

[The Modfather]

Every thread is an Independence thread to this poster. I have to remind myself they're an extremist so as not to subconsciously react negatively to the independence cause as a result.

I actually suspect they might be a double agent! :greengrin Either that or they're unaware of the effect of their behaviour on some others.

I remember a few folk hinting at what previous poster our Masonic friend used to be. Who was it? Ignsh/Tornadoes70? Think we just need to enjoy them while we can as they won’t last long by the looks of it.

[CropleyWasGod]

Well explained. Free Masonry that is unfortunately brainwashed within British and Scottish culture is a discriminatory backstop element to catholicism. Undoubtedly Catholics and Hibs/Celtic minded folk have been discriminated against for centuries here in Britain and Scotland akin to racism. Its time we took a united stand. Independence is a clean slate for all. God Bless.

Your posts are insulting to my father, uncles and grandfather (all of them Masons and Hibbies) and, by extension, to me.

[Keith_M]

So is John Leslie a Mason or not?


:dunno:

[Hiber-nation]

I remember a few folk hinting at what previous poster our Masonic friend used to be. Who was it? Ignsh/Tornadoes70? Think we just need to enjoy them while we can as they won’t last long by the looks of it.

Yep they keep bouncing back....Filled Rolls/Cataplana might be here as well, who knows!

[JeMeSouviens]

I remember a few folk hinting at what previous poster our Masonic friend used to be. Who was it? Ignsh/Tornadoes70? Think we just need to enjoy them while we can as they won’t last long by the looks of it.

I thought it was someone from "over the water" so to speak?

[Since90+2]

You really have to feel sorry for Leslie. He's never been convicted of anything (as far as I know) but his reputation is in tatters and if you bring up his name in conversation what is normally said about him is not exactly kind.

[Keith_M]

You really have to feel sorry for Leslie. He's never been convicted of anything (as far as I know) but his reputation is in tatters and if you bring up his name in conversation what is normally said about him is not exactly kind.


He's also had no career of note since about 2002.

Just goes to show what a serious attack on your reputation can do to somebody.

[weecounty hibby]

My recollection of the UK one was that she wrote a book and mentioned about being assaulted by someone and the implication was that it was JL. This was widely being rumoured and his name was actually mentioned on TV by Paris. Police spoke to UK about it but she refused to name anyone and this left a huge cloud over JL. I thought the way it was handled by UJ was pretty despicable in a number of levels. She left a cloud over a potentially innocent man. She allowed a potentially guilty man off the hook. Pretty shabby in my opinion.
JL has never been found guilty of anything but has definitely had his reputation dragged through the mud

[Berwickhibby]

For the sake of clarity it's probably worth pointing out that the Catholic Church forbids Catholics from being Freemasons rather than the Masons themselves being inherently anti Catholic or forbidding Catholics from being members (if we distinguish between the anti clerical Grand Orient Masons of the French 3rd Republic and the rite of Freemasonry active in Scotland and the wider English speaking world that is).

In eminenti apostolatus, Humanum Genus, the encyclicals of the 2nd Vatican Council and most recently the teaching of Pope Benedict XVI, in his previous role as Prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, the Churches position is explained quite clearly: a Catholic who joins the Masons is guilty of grave sin and can't receive Holy Communion. Incidentally the current Catholic Encyclopedia, which details the Canon Law, among other things, has removed claims about anti Catholicism in the Scottish Rite of Freemasonry that was included in previous editions.

Anyway I'm not quite sure how a thread about John Leslie led to a debate about Freemasonry and Catholicism. They joys of hibs.net.

With having little or no knowledge of Freemasonry or the Catholic Church, I found this post very informative

[The Modfather]

I thought it was someone from "over the water" so to speak?

I thought said poster was very erm, partisan, and not very balanced. However this trolling reminds me more of “Richard Leonard” trolling than anything else.

[Smartie]

I thought said poster was very erm, partisan, and not very balanced. However this trolling reminds me more of “Richard Leonard” trolling than anything else.

'Mon Scottish Labour

[JeMeSouviens]

This is quite an interesting read I think:

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2008/aug/09/john.leslie.interview

[EI255]

You really have to feel sorry for Leslie. He's never been convicted of anything (as far as I know) but his reputation is in tatters and if you bring up his name in conversation what is normally said about him is not exactly kind.I wouldn't say he's squeaky clean (cause I know he isn't), however he's never been convicted of anything so I do have a certain amount of sympathy for him. Leave him be and move on.

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[London Hibs FC]

[QUOTE Anyone on here ever play alongside him when was the London Hibs goalkeeper?[/QUOTE]

There are a good few of us on here.

[Keith_M]

This is quite an interesting read I think:

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2008/aug/09/john.leslie.interview


I think he should have gone over what he was going to say with an Agent or PR person first.

His outrage definitely comes across but he doesn't half trip himself up a few times.

[1 8 7 5]

Well explained. Free Masonry that is unfortunately brainwashed within British and Scottish culture is a discriminatory backstop element to catholicism. Undoubtedly Catholics and Hibs/Celtic minded folk have been discriminated against for centuries here in Britain and Scotland akin to racism. Its time we took a united stand. Independence is a clean slate for all. God Bless.

Personally, I wish all you "catholics" and "protestants" would just go away. Take your muslim chums wi ye. Thats the clean slate I would start with.

... congrats to JL. It took under half an hour someone posted on this thread.... was obviously a nonsense.

[Future17]

Personally, I wish all you "catholics" and "protestants" would just go away. Take your muslim chums wi ye. Thats the clean slate I would start with.

Eh, say what now?

[1 8 7 5]

Eh, say what now?

it was directed at the lad ritchie and his religious slaverings on this thread. Its pretty clear Future17.

[Future17]

it was directed at the lad ritchie and his religious slaverings on this thread. Its pretty clear Future17.

It wasn't and it still isn't to me. It's one thing to oppose the idea of religion, it's another to tell those who follow specific religions to "go away".

[Scouse Hibee]

It wasn't and it still isn't to me. It's one thing to oppose the idea of religion, it's another to tell those who follow specific religions to "go away".

It was pretty obvious sarcasm to me.

[1 8 7 5]

It wasn't and it still isn't to me. It's one thing to oppose the idea of religion, it's another to tell those who follow specific religions to "go away".

Get off your high horse and dry your eyes...

It was exactly what I said it was. I even quoted the poster I said it to. Then continued to comment on John Leslie, you know, what the thread was about.

If you wish to make something up in your head, then carry on, if you wish to start another thread specifically on what you have made up then carry on, or even if you wish to carry on via PM thats good too. Youve posted nothing on John Leslie, to me, for me to comment on.

[G B Young]

Your posts are insulting to my father, uncles and grandfather (all of them Masons and Hibbies) and, by extension, to me.

What a bizarre turn this thread has taken since I last posted on it.

FWIW tho I know and have worked with Hibs fans who are Masons. As Pretty Boy has explained it's not the Masons who ban Catholics but the Catholic Church who forbid them to join.

I also think that some folk mistakenly associate the Masonic Order with being bound to the Orange Order due to the ceremonial attire/rituals etc and the whole Celtic/Rangers 'who's the Mason in the black' stuff.

[McSwanky]

I wouldn't say he's squeaky clean (cause I know he isn't), however he's never been convicted of anything so I do have a certain amount of sympathy for him. Leave him be and move on.

Sent from my LG-H870 using TapatalkWhere would you say he sits on the Gary Holt scale, where 1 is 'squeaky clean' and 10 is 'army fud?'

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[The Modfather]

Where would you say he sits on the Gary Holt scale, where 1 is 'squeaky clean' and 10 is 'army fud?'

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:tee hee:

[Future17]

It was pretty obvious sarcasm to me.

I guessed that initially as well, although admittedly I didn't understand it, so I looked at the poster's previous posts which include another having a pop at those who choose to believe in religion.


Get off your high horse and dry your eyes...

It was exactly what I said it was. I even quoted the poster I said it to. Then continued to comment on John Leslie, you know, what the thread was about.

If you wish to make something up in your head, then carry on, if you wish to start another thread specifically on what you have made up then carry on, or even if you wish to carry on via PM thats good too. Youve posted nothing on John Leslie, to me, for me to comment on.

If it was intended as sarcasm (as Scouse Hibee has suggested) then I apologise for the misunderstanding; I don't think it was though and I think your post above confirms this.

I think it's important to challenge extreme views, including bigotry, wherever we see/hear them and that includes online. Hibernian (and this website as an extension of the Club) is a diverse community and my personal opinion is that we should work hard to protect that. That's not being on a "high horse" - it's just common decency.

[Moulin Yarns]

Every thread is an Independence thread to this poster. I have to remind myself they're an extremist so as not to subconsciously react negatively to the independence cause as a result.

I actually suspect they might be a double agent! :greengrin Either that or they're unaware of the effect of their behaviour on some others.

I'm pretty sure that John Leslie's brother sang a song about him. 😉

[Keith_M]

Seeing as we're taking this thread off track again...


"Religion is the opium of the people"
--Karl Marx


Though I personally thought his brother Groucho was much funnier.

[1 8 7 5]

I guessed that initially as well, although admittedly I didn't understand it, so I looked at the poster's previous posts which include another having a pop at those who choose to believe in religion.



If it was intended as sarcasm (as Scouse Hibee has suggested) then I apologise for the misunderstanding; I don't think it was though and I think your post above confirms this.

I think it's important to challenge extreme views, including bigotry, wherever we see/hear them and that includes online. Hibernian (and this website as an extension of the Club) is a diverse community and my personal opinion is that we should work hard to protect that. That's not being on a "high horse" - it's just common decency.

Apology accepted, thanks.


Extreme views. :rolleyes:

Whats your opinion on John Leslie Future 17? Its a thread about it.

[Future17]

Apology accepted, thanks.


Extreme views. :rolleyes:

Whats your opinion on John Leslie Future 17? Its a thread about it.

I don't know enough about him to comment much.