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davidgray210516
23-05-2019, 02:30 PM
Seen at HTC today

Onceinawhile
23-05-2019, 02:31 PM
by who?

Heisenberg
23-05-2019, 02:33 PM
He was back in Scotland over the weekend but would imagine thatís no big issue considering his location and Sunderland not having a game. Heíll surely be back down preparing for their playoff now Iíd think, unless heís injured of course.

90+2
23-05-2019, 02:35 PM
He was back in Scotland over the weekend but would imagine thatís no big issue considering his location and Sunderland not having a game. Heíll surely be back down preparing for their playoff now Iíd think, unless heís injured of course.

Is their final not on Sunday?

Leith_Hibee
23-05-2019, 02:38 PM
yep, Sunderland v Charlton at 3pm on Sunday.

Since452
23-05-2019, 02:40 PM
Is that guy back hiding in the East Mains bushes?

hfc rd
23-05-2019, 03:34 PM
He was back in Scotland over the weekend but would imagine thatís no big issue considering his location and Sunderland not having a game. Heíll surely be back down preparing for their playoff now Iíd think, unless heís injured of course.


Heís hardly been making the subs bench, never mind the starting XI. Iíll be very surprised if heís in the team for this Sunday against Charlton

Mick O'Rourke
23-05-2019, 03:47 PM
Catching up and chewing the fat with old pals and collecting his Cup Final dvd he left in his old locker;-)

thegaffer12
23-05-2019, 03:58 PM
Anyone else that can confirm/deny this?

eastmainsmsh
24-05-2019, 11:26 PM
A white sporty number

tonyrougier123
24-05-2019, 11:37 PM
Seen at HTC today

Was he 😶

Auckland Hibs
24-05-2019, 11:45 PM
Seen at HTC today

Someone online mentioned a swap deal involving Kamberi heading down to Sunderland.

matty_f
25-05-2019, 12:36 AM
Someone online mentioned a swap deal involving Kamberi heading down to Sunderland.

That Twitter account is nonsense.

Jones28
25-05-2019, 05:44 AM
Oh I love it when a player is spotted at HTC - however it does mean there's not a chance hell he will sign.

Tom Hart RIP
26-05-2019, 01:39 PM
Not even on the bench today. Sunderland must have some team.

90+2
26-05-2019, 01:42 PM
Not even on the bench today. Sunderland must have some team.

They have Lee Cattermole if that helps?

NORTHERNHIBBY
26-05-2019, 02:12 PM
Unforgettable opener for Sunderland.

007
26-05-2019, 02:14 PM
I'd imagine a Sunderland win increases the chances of a Dylan loan deal.

Ozyhibby
26-05-2019, 02:18 PM
I'd imagine a Sunderland win increases the chances of a Dylan loan deal.

I would think them going up would make Dylan less likely ever to play for them, so yes.


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eastmainsmsh
26-05-2019, 02:23 PM
It's a no brainer if he is available and would come back

Shrekko
26-05-2019, 02:48 PM
I know heís not been a regular starter anyway but he is injured isnít he?

NAE NOOKIE
26-05-2019, 02:53 PM
I know heís not been a regular starter anyway but he is injured isnít he?

Injured or not you would expect all of their players to be at Wembley today for the clubs biggest game in years I would have thought :dunno:

we are hibs
26-05-2019, 02:56 PM
Injured or not you would expect all of their players to be at Wembley today for the clubs biggest game in years I would have thought :dunno:

He is.

NAE NOOKIE
26-05-2019, 03:22 PM
He is.

Ha ha .. forgot to factor in the OP was 3 days ago :greengrin

Tom Hart RIP
26-05-2019, 03:56 PM
Needless foul from big Ozturk and Charlton score winner in last minute. WTF was he thinking?

Lago
26-05-2019, 04:31 PM
League 1 agin for Sunderland, money doesn't always count.

whereswallace?
26-05-2019, 05:51 PM
I know heís not been a regular starter anyway but he is injured isnít he?

He was fit and available for selection today.

Leith Green
26-05-2019, 06:47 PM
League 1 agin for Sunderland, money doesn't always count.

I think they will empty jack ross once the dust settles , dont think the sunderland support are too impressed with tactics and performances. Can add failure to be promoted to that list now too.

supermcginn
26-05-2019, 06:54 PM
Ross will be gone in the morning. Massive failure

Since452
26-05-2019, 06:57 PM
Ross will be gone in the morning. Massive failure

Next Kilmarnock manager

greenlex
26-05-2019, 06:59 PM
Next Kilmarnock managerHearts.

Since452
26-05-2019, 07:01 PM
Hearts.

Not positive but sure he was pretty badly treated at Hearts when he was on the coaching staff

90+2
26-05-2019, 07:02 PM
Hearts.

No chance.

hibsbollah
26-05-2019, 07:04 PM
Not even on the bench today. Sunderland must have some team.

He's been playing through a broken toe while getting painkilling injections. He's been Sunderlands best player when fit from what I've heard.

90+2
26-05-2019, 07:08 PM
He's been playing through a broken toe while getting painkilling injections. He's been Sunderlands best player when fit from what I've heard.

You would have thought he would have at least been on the bench in that case? Heís not played for weeks.

jeffers
26-05-2019, 07:27 PM
You would have thought he would have at least been on the bench in that case? Heís not played for weeks.

He came on against Southend, did heehaw of note and didn't cover himself in glory with the losing goal. Albeit only one appearance but if that's been typical of his performances I'm not surprised he's not featured.

Leitherhibs
26-05-2019, 07:38 PM
He's been playing through a broken toe while getting painkilling injections. He's been Sunderlands best player when fit from what I've heard.

Donít know who told you that but theyíre miles off the mark. Seen a fair bit of sunderland on tv and a few games at SOL, heís been mince as has the laddie morgan from Sellick.

04Sauzee
26-05-2019, 07:38 PM
Sunderland fans thoughts here
https://www.readytogo.net/smb/threads/mcgeouch.1474829/

hibsbollah
26-05-2019, 08:01 PM
Don’t know who told you that but they’re miles off the mark. Seen a fair bit of sunderland on tv and a few games at SOL, he’s been mince as has the laddie morgan from Sellick.

Adrian Clarke who does the totally football league podcast described Dylan as Sunderlands best player just this Thursday. And he watches a lot of Sunderland games.

Lago
26-05-2019, 08:37 PM
Adrian Clarke who does the totally football league podcast described Dylan as Sunderlands best player just this Thursday. And he watches a lot of Sunderland games.
Strange as his game time lately has been nearly zero.

DetroitHibs
26-05-2019, 08:52 PM
Catch 22 with Dylan. Could sign him on a 3 year deal with him being one of our top earners and him on the treatment table for large portions of the season. Great player when fit, but Iíd pass.

The young one
26-05-2019, 09:08 PM
Catch 22 with Dylan. Could sign him on a 3 year deal with him being one of our top earners and him on the treatment table for large portions of the season. Great player when fit, but Iíd pass.

No catch 22 about it imo, as far as Iím aware heís not been injured majorly at Sunderland by major I mean more than the odd game here and there like most players, heís just not been getting picked. His last season with us off the top of my head Iíd have said he played/was available 95% of the time. Did we not send him to London for an opp which by all accounts seems to have done the job as heís been fit ever since. If heís available and wanted to come back then we should throw the bucket at him. Heís perfect for the holding mid in heckys team not huge but tackles excellently and very rarely wastes the ball, would tie in to what Hecky said re ďchanging the roleĒ when he was asked why we let Milligan go

we are hibs
26-05-2019, 09:17 PM
If Aberdeen were in for him before I would imagine they would be in for him again if he was available? It may come down to a choice between where hes played his best football and had his most enjoyable spell by far or going for a higher wage.

Unseen work
26-05-2019, 09:27 PM
Dylan was good for us, but I think people forget that we were also good for him

We took him in on a good wage and stuck by him through numerous injuries to the point you could hardly rely on him or expected him to break down.

We got him sorted with operations/physio which seemed to do the trick, his final season was his best for us and he refused to sign a new contract and ended up leaving for free for better money.

He also got in the Scotland squad based on his AND the teams form.

I think thatís needs highlighted to him if he comes back, I get he was getting more money but League 1? Come on.

Since heís left he seems to again have had problems with injuries and not been reliable.

I love Dylan when heís playing, but next season we need consistent players who donít have a history of being injured as this season has showed how disruptive it can be. He would also most likely be our top earner.

04Sauzee
26-05-2019, 09:54 PM
Dylan was good for us, but I think people forget that we were also good for him

We took him in on a good wage and stuck by him through numerous injuries to the point you could hardly rely on him or expected him to break down.

We got him sorted with operations/physio which seemed to do the trick, his final season was his best for us and he refused to sign a new contract and ended up leaving for free for better money.

He also got in the Scotland squad based on his AND the teams form.

I think thatís needs highlighted to him if he comes back, I get he was getting more money but League 1? Come on.

Since heís left he seems to again have had problems with injuries and not been reliable.

I love Dylan when heís playing, but next season we need consistent players who donít have a history of being injured as this season has showed how disruptive it can be. He would also most likely be our top earner.
Can't remember but did he not sort out his own physio?

Frazerbob
26-05-2019, 10:05 PM
Dylan was good for us, but I think people forget that we were also good for him

We took him in on a good wage and stuck by him through numerous injuries to the point you could hardly rely on him or expected him to break down.

We got him sorted with operations/physio which seemed to do the trick, his final season was his best for us and he refused to sign a new contract and ended up leaving for free for better money.

He also got in the Scotland squad based on his AND the teams form.

I think thatís needs highlighted to him if he comes back, I get he was getting more money but League 1? Come on.

Since heís left he seems to again have had problems with injuries and not been reliable.

I love Dylan when heís playing, but next season we need consistent players who donít have a history of being injured as this season has showed how disruptive it can be. He would also most likely be our top earner.

Stuck with him? You mean as we were contracted to do?
Letís not forget Lennon told the world that the injuries where in his head and told him he was free to leave in the summer before he had his best season for us.

Hibbyradge
26-05-2019, 10:16 PM
Stuck with him? You mean as we were contracted to do?
Letís not forget Lennon told the world that the injuries where in his head and told him he was free to leave in the summer before he had his best season for us.

You could argue that was good man management. :dunno:

w pilton hibby
26-05-2019, 10:26 PM
You could argue that was good man management. :dunno:

If you were a Victorian.

Haymaker
27-05-2019, 12:22 AM
**** me, season 2 of Sunderland till I die is going to be amazing.

Smartie
27-05-2019, 12:25 AM
**** me, season 2 of Sunderland till I die is going to be amazing.

I don't suspect the documentary makers anticipated it was going to be unwatchably bleak by the end of only the second series.

Haymaker
27-05-2019, 12:31 AM
I don't suspect the documentary makers anticipated it was going to be unwatchably bleak by the end of only the second series.

3rd season might even be worse! Cannot wait.

DetroitHibs
27-05-2019, 12:51 AM
You could argue that was good man management. :dunno:

Definitely a good point. Agree or not, Dylan played the best football of his career under Lennon, earning a call up to the national squad for his effort. Funny how rumor becomes ďfactĒ regarding him falling out with Lennon.

CraigHibee
27-05-2019, 05:19 AM
Definitely a good point. Agree or not, Dylan played the best football of his career under Lennon, earning a call up to the national squad for his effort. Funny how rumor becomes ďfactĒ regarding him falling out with Lennon.

We will never know the full extent of what went on but dylan was a very good player imo, wouldn't object in any way to him returning

1van Sprou7e
27-05-2019, 05:45 AM
Definitely a good point. Agree or not, Dylan played the best football of his career under Lennon, earning a call up to the national squad for his effort. Funny how rumor becomes ďfactĒ regarding him falling out with Lennon.

Never heard of any big fallout but I thought the problem was that they just never got on very well from the start

Jpdhfc
27-05-2019, 05:55 AM
Can't remember but did he not sort out his own physio?

Yip paid for specialist himself.

J-C
27-05-2019, 06:35 AM
Can't remember but did he not sort out his own physio?

Dylan had a hip imbalance similar to that of Robert Snodgrass, who gave him the name of a specialist which helped him. He was doing specialist exercises to combat his hip problem which then seen him play more often.


Never heard of any big fallout but I thought the problem was that they just never got on very well from the start

From what I was told Dylan didn't get on with Lennon and didn't appreciate being called out on his injury problem, suggesting it was all in his head and he was making up his hip problems.

Frazerbob
27-05-2019, 06:39 AM
Definitely a good point. Agree or not, Dylan played the best football of his career under Lennon, earning a call up to the national squad for his effort. Funny how rumor becomes ďfactĒ regarding him falling out with Lennon.

I never said they fell out however it is fact that Lennon questioned his mental state, we all heard the interview. Iím pretty sure that didnít sit well Dylan.

staunchhibby
27-05-2019, 06:49 AM
Do not think for one minute that Dylan was not the only one that had problems with Lennon

JimBHibees
27-05-2019, 06:56 AM
I never said they fell out however it is fact that Lennon questioned his mental state, we all heard the interview. Iím pretty sure that didnít sit well Dylan.

Not sure that would sit well with anyone in any type of work your boss basically calling you a slacker. Neil came out with similar type comments earlier in the season saying some players werent as robust as he would like them to be when saying they were injured. Whether as a manager you think it certainly not IMO the way to go to do it publically.

JimBHibees
27-05-2019, 06:56 AM
I never said they fell out however it is fact that Lennon questioned his mental state, we all heard the interview. Iím pretty sure that didnít sit well Dylan.

Not sure that would sit well with anyone in any type of work your boss basically calling you a slacker. Neil came out with similar type comments earlier in the season saying some players werent as robust as he would like them to be when saying they were injured. Whether as a manager you think it certainly not IMO the way to go to do it publicly.

underscore
27-05-2019, 08:10 AM
Definitely a good point. Agree or not, Dylan played the best football of his career under Lennon, earning a call up to the national squad for his effort. Funny how rumor becomes ďfactĒ regarding him falling out with Lennon.

Dylan was not a fan of Lennon that is 100% correct. Source Dylan.

Iain G
27-05-2019, 09:12 AM
Dylan had a hip imbalance similar to that of Robert Snodgrass, who gave him the name of a specialist which helped him. He was doing specialist exercises to combat his hip problem which then seen him play more often.



From what I was told Dylan didn't get on with Lennon and didn't appreciate being called out on his injury problem, suggesting it was all in his head and he was making up his hip problems.

Was Lennon not the one who signed Dylan for Celtic?

hibsbollah
27-05-2019, 09:59 AM
Strange as his game time lately has been nearly zero.

You can still call a player the teams 'best player' while they're not available for selection. Even if you look at that mackem board, which isn't going to be very positive at the moment, you'll see plenty of them saying similar, he makes their team better whenever he's on the pitch.

J-C
27-05-2019, 10:22 AM
Was Lennon not the one who signed Dylan for Celtic?


He was but Dylan was an 18 year old then and he had been at the club at a youth before his wee jaunt at Rangers, so I don't know how much dealings he had with Lennon then and maybe Lennon was a different manager back then.

southsider
27-05-2019, 11:27 AM
Was Lennon not the one who signed Dylan for Celtic?

Lennon went to his mum & dads house to resign Dylan when he turned 18.

oldbutdim
27-05-2019, 01:30 PM
Do not think for one minute that Dylan was not the only one that had problems with Lennon

So he WAS the only one?

:confused:

Iggy Pope
27-05-2019, 03:05 PM
He was but Dylan was an 18 year old then and he had been at the club at a youth before his wee jaunt at Rangers, so I don't know how much dealings he had with Lennon then and maybe Lennon was a different manager back then.

Is it fair to say you maybe donít know then?

J-C
27-05-2019, 07:23 PM
Is it fair to say you maybe donít know then?


I do know that he didn't get on with Lennon in his final year, relationships do sometimes deteriorate and quite a few posters have confirmed this happened with the of them last season.

Hibbyradge
28-05-2019, 02:02 PM
If you were a Victorian.

Well, we were formed in 1875. :wink:

Coincidence or not, Dylan excelled himself after that.

Since452
28-05-2019, 02:11 PM
Remember when Dylan was being announced in Scotland squads.... in hindsight Sunderland was a terrible move

Seveno
28-05-2019, 02:14 PM
Was it just coincidence that Dylan played his best and injury free football in the final year of his contract?

Booked4Being-Ugly
28-05-2019, 02:25 PM
I do know that he didn't get on with Lennon in his final year, relationships do sometimes deteriorate and quite a few posters have confirmed this happened with the of them last season.In the newspapers, Lennon alluded that McGeough's injuries could be more psychological rather than physical. I remember thinking, although he may be right I would imagine it wouldn't go down that well with DM. Reading between the lines i don't know if that was the gist of any fallout.

J-C
28-05-2019, 03:55 PM
Was it just coincidence that Dylan played his best and injury free football in the final year of his contract?

Seen a specialist to help his hip problem, same one Snodgrass used to help him.

J-C
28-05-2019, 03:58 PM
In the newspapers, Lennon alluded that McGeough's injuries could be more psychological rather than physical. I remember thinking, although he may be right I would imagine it wouldn't go down that well with DM. Reading between the lines i don't know if that was the gist of any fallout.

It seems to be, he had a hip imbalance which needed specialist treatment, didn't take kindly being called a liar.

Smartie
28-05-2019, 03:58 PM
Seen a specialist to help his hip problem, same one Snodgrass used to help him.

I wonder if the specialist can explain the medical reasons behind why his only non-injury-blighted season in recent years was the one when he was in the final year of his contract playing for a big move?

J-C
28-05-2019, 04:10 PM
I wonder if the specialist can explain the medical reasons behind why his only non-injury-blighted season in recent years was the one when he was in the final year of his contract playing for a big move?

Probably because he didn't find out about the specialist until last season. You do know he placed well before he seen this guy, unfortunately in spurts due to injury, the fact he played well most of last season was down to this

LeithMike
28-05-2019, 04:20 PM
I wonder if the specialist can explain the medical reasons behind why his only non-injury-blighted season in recent years was the one when he was in the final year of his contract playing for a big move?Pretty poor comment IMO. It was fairly obvious that DM was suffering some pretty serious and repetitive muscle injuries. If it is true that he had to seek and pay for treatment privately while Lennon was suggesting the injuries were in his head then it's no wonder he left. Lennon has also questioned other players' fitness and injury records and I'm sure that would have played a significant part in the breakdown of his relationship with he players.

I think he criticised Marciano when he went off injured not long after coming back from his hand injury so I would be surprised if Rocky wanted to go to Celtic Park (although money probably talks).

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Northernhibee
28-05-2019, 04:29 PM
Pretty poor comment IMO. It was fairly obvious that DM was suffering some pretty serious and repetitive muscle injuries. If it is true that he had to seek and pay for treatment privately while Lennon was suggesting the injuries were in his head then it's no wonder he left. Lennon has also questioned other players' fitness and injury records and I'm sure that would have played a significant part in the breakdown of his relationship with he players.

I think he criticised Marciano when he went off injured not long after coming back from his hand injury so I would be surprised if Rocky wanted to go to Celtic Park (although money probably talks).

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We've also not had Ryan Porteous when it should have been obvious that your knee popping out two or three times in a game probably isn't good.

we are hibs
28-05-2019, 04:37 PM
We've also not had Ryan Porteous when it should have been obvious that your knee popping out two or three times in a game probably isn't good.

That really annoyed me. 3 times he went down and it was blatantly obvious he was in agony. That's the kind of thing that could hinder him later on in his career.

MWHIBBIES
28-05-2019, 04:42 PM
I wonder if the specialist can explain the medical reasons behind why his only non-injury-blighted season in recent years was the one when he was in the final year of his contract playing for a big move?

You think he was faking injury for an entire year on loan here, then we gave him a 3 year deal (when he apparently only wanted 2 years initially) so he could continue to fake injury while we payed for it? Then he finally stopped faking it in the last season so a big English side would offer him more money?

Yeah, definitely happened.

Northernhibee
28-05-2019, 04:45 PM
You think he was faking injury for an entire year on loan here, then we gave him a 3 year deal (when he apparently only wanted 2 years initially) so he could continue to fake injury while we payed for it? Then he finally stopped faking it in the last season so a big English side would offer him more money?

Yeah, definitely happened.

The sniping at quite a lot of the Scottish Cup winning team amazes me. Cummings gets it, Fyvie gets it, Stubbs gets it - it amazes me.

They're all players/management that I'll forever have an almighty gratitude to considering what their efforts and success meant to my family and me.

McGeouch was a ****ing brilliant player and never, ever gave less than 100% for Hibs.

RicheyWhite
28-05-2019, 04:51 PM
He's a devious snake. I mean, celebrates his semi-final goal against Aberdeen by faking a groin strain.

Hereís Lucy!
28-05-2019, 05:01 PM
He's a devious snake. I mean, celebrates his semi-final goal against Aberdeen by faking a groin strain.

Just one of his snakey actions imo.

Aim Here
28-05-2019, 05:01 PM
You think he was faking injury for an entire year on loan here, then we gave him a 3 year deal (when he apparently only wanted 2 years initially) so he could continue to fake injury while we payed for it? Then he finally stopped faking it in the last season so a big English side would offer him more money?

Yeah, definitely happened.

The other guy has it all wrong. The injury stuff was real. He was just faking being a damn good midfielder in the last year here so he could score some of those sweet, sweet, English League One megabucks after his contract ran out. He'll be faking it again when his Sunderland contract is near to running out, you mark my words!

That phoney ******* John McGinn is still faking being the best player in the English Championship! Villa had better wise up to him before it's too late.

oneone73
28-05-2019, 05:24 PM
The sniping at quite a lot of the Scottish Cup winning team amazes me. Cummings gets it, Fyvie gets it, Stubbs gets it - it amazes me.

They're all players/management that I'll forever have an almighty gratitude to considering what their efforts and success meant to my family and me.
McGeouch was a ****ing brilliant player and never, ever gave less than 100% for Hibs.

This. Absolutely this.

Smartie
28-05-2019, 05:48 PM
I loved Dylan as a player, and tbh I thought he made us tick more than John McGinn did. When he was fit and playing he was incredibly consistent and a huge part of our revival in recent years. He never hid, he never ever seemed to have a poor game.

Is it that unreasonable to question the fact that he's had one relatively injury free season in many, many years? In my opinion, if it wasn't for injury then we probably would never have had him in the first place as he is good enough to play regularly for Celtic.

We've had a few of these players when there have been suggestions of injuries being "in their head". That doesn't mean they're making it up but it can make them apprehensive about pushing themselves in training and in matches. Sometimes you get these mystery injuries where the player is complaining of a problem but the medical team cannot find an organic cause of the problem.

The much-maligned Jack Rodwell had similar issues. The club could find no cause of his problems, he'd claim not to be fit and the conclusion favoured by most was that he was a money grabbing get who just wanted to pick up his cash for giving the bare minimum.

I'm not saying this was the case with Dylan, but after his very good final season with us he's gone on to have another injury affected season, and when he has been fit he hasn't been able to make the type of impact that a player of his ability really should have done on league 1.

HH81
28-05-2019, 06:49 PM
I seen him play other week at Accrington and he was one of Sunderland's better players. Surprised he not been involved much since.

ancient hibee
28-05-2019, 06:54 PM
Pretty poor comment IMO. It was fairly obvious that DM was suffering some pretty serious and repetitive muscle injuries. If it is true that he had to seek and pay for treatment privately while Lennon was suggesting the injuries were in his head then it's no wonder he left. Lennon has also questioned other players' fitness and injury records and I'm sure that would have played a significant part in the breakdown of his relationship with he players.

I think he criticised Marciano when he went off injured not long after coming back from his hand injury so I would be surprised if Rocky wanted to go to Celtic Park (although money probably talks).

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What makes you think that he paid for treatment himself.Is this another.net FACT?

oldbutdim
28-05-2019, 06:56 PM
What makes you think that he paid for treatment himself.Is this another.net FACT?

Did Paul Hanlon not have to do the same?

I seem to remember that the insurers nominate 'their' specialists, and if you want somewhere different then you have to pay yourself.

Just read that somewhere or other, not first hand.

jeffers
28-05-2019, 06:56 PM
It wasn't just Lennon who thought it was all in his head, at least one of the former physios at Hibs thought the same.

Barman Stanton
29-05-2019, 11:28 AM
The sniping at quite a lot of the Scottish Cup winning team amazes me. Cummings gets it, Fyvie gets it, Stubbs gets it - it amazes me.

They're all players/management that I'll forever have an almighty gratitude to considering what their efforts and success meant to my family and me.

McGeouch was a ****ing brilliant player and never, ever gave less than 100% for Hibs.

This. I dont get it either. We really have some miserable b****** in our support.

Heisenberg
29-05-2019, 09:41 PM
https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/4303126/dylan-mcgeouch-decision-sunderland-future/

Unhappy that heís not featured for Sunderland despite being fit. Heíll be back up the road this summer I think. Between Aberdeen or us.

90+2
29-05-2019, 09:50 PM
Rangers.

007
29-05-2019, 09:55 PM
They got him for free so hopefully would release him for free. We've got the McGinn windfall so should be able to pay him a decent amount so I think we'd have a chance of getting him, if Heckingbottom wanted him.

Boydyhfc
29-05-2019, 09:59 PM
They got him for free so hopefully would release him for free. We've got the McGinn windfall so should be able to pay him a decent amount so I think we'd have a chance of getting him, if Heckingbottom wanted him.

Dylanís name was brought up at a recent Q&A night at the Hibs Club and it was said by PH & RS at the time that heís someone theyíve talked about...

Greenbeard
29-05-2019, 10:05 PM
Dylanís name was brought up at a recent Q&A night at the Hibs Club and it was said by PH & RS at the time that heís someone theyíve talked about...
Means nowt. Politician's answer. They've probably spoken as much about Paddy Stanton but I can't see him re-signing.

007
29-05-2019, 10:14 PM
Dylanís name was brought up at a recent Q&A night at the Hibs Club and it was said by PH & RS at the time that heís someone theyíve talked about...

Fingers crossed we go for him. I'd like to think he'd pick us over Aberdeen even if they are offering a bit more money.

Nicho87
29-05-2019, 10:22 PM
Sun running a story tonight quoting Dylan saying he will re-assess over summer. Still wants to be at Sunderland, but complaining over lack of game time. Go and get him hibs.

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/4303126/dylan-mcgeouch-decision-sunderland-future/?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1559165921

we are hibs
30-05-2019, 05:32 AM
Sun running a story tonight quoting Dylan saying he will re-assess over summer. Still wants to be at Sunderland, but complaining over lack of game time. Go and get him hibs.

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/4303126/dylan-mcgeouch-decision-sunderland-future/?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1559165921


Cannot see Jack Ross all of a sudden starting to pick him and it doesn't look like Ross will be moving on. Levein Must have taught him at hearts not to appreciate good players and play limited thugs like Lee Cattermole instead.

JimBHibees
30-05-2019, 05:41 AM
Means nowt. Politician's answer. They've probably spoken as much about Paddy Stanton but I can't see him re-signing.

They wouldn't be doing their job if they hadn't considered Dylan. Doesn't mean they will try for him as they might want different.

Jones28
30-05-2019, 06:31 AM
Remember when Dylan was being announced in Scotland squads.... in hindsight Sunderland was a terrible move

His financial adviser would disagree with that, but from a footballing perspective yes it absolutely was.

DetroitHibs
30-05-2019, 06:40 AM
Players like Dylan and Cummings should really take a hard look at McGinn. He didnít rush in to anything, took his time and made the right move for his footballing career, not wallet. Obviously heís making more money, but he was equally happy to play another season for us. Had Dylan signed another contract with us, thereís every chance heíd be attracting clubs like Villa and make us some money. His career has gone backwards when it could have easily been trending upwards with more Scotland caps and regular football. Same goes for Cummings. Hopefully our next brightest prospect Porteous takes note.

NC1875
30-05-2019, 06:49 AM
Rangers.

He wants game time, Rangers have about 20 center midfielders.

Plus Kamaras a better player. It will be us or Aberdeen if he comes back to Scotland.

underscore
30-05-2019, 06:56 AM
He needs to be at a team that play out from the back. Thats not Sunderland.

MWHIBBIES
30-05-2019, 06:58 AM
Rangers.

You think a player named Dylan McGeouch would last 5 minutes with Rangers first team? Would be hounded out

superfurryhibby
30-05-2019, 07:04 AM
Players like Dylan and Cummings should really take a hard look at McGinn. He didnít rush in to anything, took his time and made the right move for his footballing career, not wallet. Obviously heís making more money, but he was equally happy to play another season for us. Had Dylan signed another contract with us, thereís every chance heíd be attracting clubs like Villa and make us some money. His career has gone backwards when it could have easily been trending upwards with more Scotland caps and regular football. Same goes for Cummings. Hopefully our next brightest prospect Porteous takes note.

I would imagine McGeouch and Cummings felt the same way when joining Sunderland and Forest? They both backed their own ability and took the chance to play at bigger clubs for more money. It hasnít worked out for either and in Cummings case itís a mixture of failed loans and. his own behaviour which has marked him out as being damaged goods. Both will find new clubs, albeit McGeouch will attract a better calibre of interest.

jeffers
30-05-2019, 07:08 AM
He needs to be at a team that play out from the back. Thats not Sunderland.

Will that be Hibs under PH or will we be more direct ?

roo62
30-05-2019, 07:33 AM
Think we should forget Mcgeouch. That ship has sailed. Scott Allan, Stevie Mallan, Martin Boyle, Daryl Horgan Fraser Murray and Stephane Omeonga with a couple of big strong mobile athletic additions to the midfield will do us nicely I believe.

GreenT
30-05-2019, 10:04 AM
Sun running a story tonight quoting Dylan saying he will re-assess over summer. Still wants to be at Sunderland, but complaining over lack of game time. Go and get him hibs.

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/4303126/dylan-mcgeouch-decision-sunderland-future/?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1559165921

Better reading it here that in the notfitforbogpaper sun

https://rokerreport.sbnation.com/2019/5/30/18644994/roker-roundup-dylan-mcgeouch-opens-up-on-his-sunderland-future-could-he-leave-this-summer

Springbank
30-05-2019, 10:30 AM
Time to come home, Dylan :flag:

A Rolls-Royce of a footballer

Heisenberg
31-05-2019, 05:39 AM
Dylan apparently only signed a years deal with Sunderland...

https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/dylan-mcgeouch-could-leave-sunderland-16354478

Speedy
31-05-2019, 07:10 AM
Players like Dylan and Cummings should really take a hard look at McGinn. He didnít rush in to anything, took his time and made the right move for his footballing career, not wallet. Obviously heís making more money, but he was equally happy to play another season for us. Had Dylan signed another contract with us, thereís every chance heíd be attracting clubs like Villa and make us some money. His career has gone backwards when it could have easily been trending upwards with more Scotland caps and regular football. Same goes for Cummings. Hopefully our next brightest prospect Porteous takes note.

Equally he could've had a season with us where he struggled with injuries and his big move might never happen.

Can't blame him for showing ambition and making the move.

Since452
31-05-2019, 07:17 AM
Equally he could've had a season with us where he struggled with injuries and his big move might never happen.

Can't blame him for showing ambition and making the move.

I can see why he chose Sunderland. Massive favourites to bounce back to English Championship and relatively close to Scotland. From the brief games i saw of theres before turning it over the standard was very poor. Blood snd thunder stuff. Don't think it suited Dylans game at all.

Greenworld
31-05-2019, 07:28 AM
What makes you think that he paid for treatment himself.Is this another.net FACT?It happens at Hibs. Paul Hanlon had to do the same paid to see a specialist in London .
I don't know the reason Hibs don't pay these bills

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1van Sprou7e
31-05-2019, 07:50 AM
Will that be Hibs under PH or will we be more direct ?

Heckingbottom said after Jackson signed that we want to play out from the back

Since452
31-05-2019, 08:05 AM
Heckingbottom said after Jackson signed that we want to play out from the back

Interesting listening to Jacksons interview. He said Hecky constantly drilled that home to his players at Barnsley and they got better and better at it

Diclonius
31-05-2019, 08:35 AM
Dylan apparently only signed a years deal with Sunderland...

https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/dylan-mcgeouch-could-leave-sunderland-16354478

Offer him a deal NOW. We surely have the money to give him a good contract and he would be absolutely vital for us.

The Modfather
31-05-2019, 08:53 AM
Offer him a deal NOW. We surely have the money to give him a good contract and he would be absolutely vital for us.

Would love him back, but is he on a bit of a hiding to nothing in coming back without McGinn beside him. Thatís not to downplay McGeoughís performances or ability, more a reflection on how good McGinn was and that he made everyone around him a better player. You could literally give McGinn the ball in any circumstances and no matter how many were around him he would still invariably keep the ball or drive us up the park.

Still a no brainer of a signing though.

mentalhibee
31-05-2019, 09:07 AM
Hopefully he comes back, was our best player in his last season.

Hermit Crab
31-05-2019, 09:20 AM
Aberdeen bound. Just a rumour.

Heisenberg
31-05-2019, 09:26 AM
Aberdeen bound. Just a rumour.

They tried to make him their highest paid player last summer so wouldnít be a surprise to see him go there this time around. Would be gutted if it happened.

BlackSheep
31-05-2019, 09:34 AM
No the same player as Shinnie but they could see him as a replacement, maybe change their style of play... McGeouch isn't a dirty player so not sure how he'd fit into those tactics?

1van Sprou7e
31-05-2019, 09:38 AM
No the same player as Shinnie but they could see him as a replacement, maybe change their style of play... McGeouch isn't a dirty player so not sure how he'd fit into those tactics?

My thoughts as well. Can obviously understand why they want him but not sure he fits their style

Betty Boop
31-05-2019, 09:40 AM
You think a player named Dylan McGeouch would last 5 minutes with Rangers first team? Would be hounded out

Well he lasted 3 years at Rangers as a youth.

Iggy Pope
31-05-2019, 09:57 AM
You think a player named Dylan McGeouch would last 5 minutes with Rangers first team? Would be hounded out

I seen Lorenzo Amoruso make the sign of the cross more than once. They had a boy called Declan something or other not long ago....:wink:

MagicSwirlingShip
31-05-2019, 10:03 AM
He wants game time, Rangers have about 20 center midfielders.

Plus Kamaras a better player. It will be us or Aberdeen if he comes back to Scotland.

Would have Dylan ahead of Kamara every week.

Stevie Reid
31-05-2019, 10:07 AM
Players like Dylan and Cummings should really take a hard look at McGinn. He didnít rush in to anything, took his time and made the right move for his footballing career, not wallet. Obviously heís making more money, but he was equally happy to play another season for us. Had Dylan signed another contract with us, thereís every chance heíd be attracting clubs like Villa and make us some money. His career has gone backwards when it could have easily been trending upwards with more Scotland caps and regular football. Same goes for Cummings. Hopefully our next brightest prospect Porteous takes note.

That's not really how it happened though. McGinn has said previously that he has his heart set on a move to Celtic, and found it difficult whilst the saga was rumbling on - bottom line is, he would've gone there had Celtic made an acceptable bid. Villa only became an option because they had a bid accepted.

Love SJM, and delighted that his Villa move has worked out so well for him - and us, seemingly. But let's not pretend he adopted some genius strategy here.

sauzee=legend
31-05-2019, 11:14 AM
Would have Dylan ahead of Kamara every week.

I personally would prefer Kamara if I had to pick one.

The Green Goblin
31-05-2019, 11:21 AM
That really annoyed me. 3 times he went down and it was blatantly obvious he was in agony. That's the kind of thing that could hinder him later on in his career.

That annoyed me too. No idea what they were thinking.

calumhibee1
31-05-2019, 11:33 AM
If heís out of contract then we should be going all out to get him here. Our midfield was incredible in the second half of 17/18 and if we can get 2/3rds of that back together on permanent long term deals then we should be doing everything we can to get Allan and Dylan back together.

Hiberniankb
31-05-2019, 11:42 AM
Aberdeen guaranteed. They offer better wages than us or anyone else in Scotland old firm aside

J-C
31-05-2019, 11:58 AM
Maybe with Lennon gone, it might entice Dylan back, their relationship had deteriorated and if he does his homework would maybe fancy Hecky as his new boss.

Golden Bear
31-05-2019, 12:02 PM
I personally would prefer Kamara if I had to pick one.

:agree:

And me, Kamera is much more in keeping with the type of midfield player we badly need.

jeffers
31-05-2019, 12:07 PM
:agree:

And me, Kamera is much more in keeping with the type of midfield player we badly need.

Agreed, with Mallan and Allan we need a holding midfielder who provides defensive cover, a younger more mobile version of Marv.

500miles
31-05-2019, 12:18 PM
Agreed, with Mallan and Allan we need a holding midfielder who provides defensive cover, a younger more mobile version of Marv.

The only thing Kamara has in common with Marv is the colour of his skin. He is a box to box midfielder, more like Mcginn.

Onceinawhile
31-05-2019, 12:51 PM
The only thing Kamara has in common with Marv is the colour of his skin. He is a box to box midfielder, more like Mcginn.

Yup. More like Omeonga than Marv imo. I'd take Dylan back in a heartbeat, but in terms of what we need, Kamara would be more suited imo.

500miles
31-05-2019, 12:53 PM
Yup. More like Omeonga than Marv imo. I'd take Dylan back in a heartbeat, but in terms of what we need, Kamara would be more suited imo.

Honestly, we could do with both. We've been pretty poor at bringing the ball out of defence in any constructive way since he left.

Spudster
31-05-2019, 12:57 PM
No the same player as Shinnie but they could see him as a replacement, maybe change their style of play... McGeouch isn't a dirty player so not sure how he'd fit into those tactics?
They never replaced Kenny McLean. Could see Lewis Ferguson being the Shinnie so they need some one slightly more attack minded with passing ability IMO

jax67
31-05-2019, 01:01 PM
Aberdeen guaranteed. They offer better wages than us or anyone else in Scotland old firm aside

If I was Dylan and had a choice, Iíd be a Hibs player before Iíd be a Don.
We play a style of football that suits his game. Aberdeen are like hertz, a gang.

jax67
31-05-2019, 01:03 PM
They never replaced Kenny McLean. Could see Lewis Ferguson being the Shinnie so they need some one slightly more attack minded with passing ability IMO

Aberdeen would be better going for djoum, heís more like shinnie, kicks anything that moves and never gets booked.

Since452
31-05-2019, 01:09 PM
If I was Dylan and had a choice, Iíd be a Hibs player before Iíd be a Don.
We play a style of football that suits his game. Aberdeen are like hertz, a gang.

He's a legend here. Surely a no brainer if he was thinking or returning north and the manager was interested.

Springbank
31-05-2019, 01:09 PM
If I was Dylan and had a choice, Iíd be a Hibs player before Iíd be a Don.
We play a style of football that suits his game. Aberdeen are like hertz, a gang.

This 100%

Dylan has just spent a season living in a less attractive city than Edinburgh, involved with a team that play less attractive football than Hibs.

Why would he want to do more of the same, if the money isn't too far apart?

It's Edinburgh every time.

It's Hibs and our football every time.

It's Hecky over McInnes *EVERY* time

BegbieHSC
31-05-2019, 03:32 PM
According to the Sun, the Huns want him...

HoboHarry
31-05-2019, 03:52 PM
He's a legend here. Surely a no brainer if he was thinking or returning north and the manager was interested.
If Sevco want him they will get him, they can pay way more than we ever can......

marinello59
31-05-2019, 03:55 PM
He's a legend here. Surely a no brainer if he was thinking or returning north and the manager was interested.

It would be a no brainer for a fan. Itís not for a pro player trying to get as much out of his career as he can.

speedy_gonzales
31-05-2019, 03:56 PM
According to the Sun, the Huns want him...

I fully understand it's a job/career for the player but is his whole family not Celtc fans, you have to wonder if that would surface during his decision making process?

Hibbyradge
31-05-2019, 04:07 PM
I fully understand it's a job/career for the player but is his whole family not Celtc fans, you have to wonder if that would surface during his decision making process?

He played for them before.

jeffers
31-05-2019, 04:08 PM
The only thing Kamara has in common with Marv is the colour of his skin. He is a box to box midfielder, more like Mcginn.

Not what I thought when I watched him but then I havenít seen a lot of him. My point stands though that Iíd rather see a genuine defensive midfielder than have McGeouch return.

Stuart93
31-05-2019, 04:12 PM
It would be a no brainer for a fan. Itís not for a pro player trying to get as much out of his career as he can.

Which is fair enough but surely proís also want get as much playing time in their career as possible as well?

easty
31-05-2019, 04:30 PM
Which is fair enough but surely proís also want get as much playing time in their career as possible as well?

If he ends up at rangers then heíll be going there expecting to play regularly, not just for the wages. No reason he shouldnít be a regular in that rangers team.

jax67
31-05-2019, 04:42 PM
If he ends up at rangers then heíll be going there expecting to play regularly, not just for the wages. No reason he shouldnít be a regular in that rangers team.

the rangers have a barrow load of midfielders.
No guarantee of game time.
Money talks though.

MWHIBBIES
31-05-2019, 05:24 PM
If he ends up at rangers then heíll be going there expecting to play regularly, not just for the wages. No reason he shouldnít be a regular in that rangers team.

Jack and Kamara are 2 reasons.

dchibs
31-05-2019, 06:09 PM
Jack and Kamara are 2 reasons.

Where we not interested in Docherty from sevco I'm sure he would fit in with our midfield.

Since90+2
31-05-2019, 06:27 PM
Jack and Kamara are 2 reasons.

Don't talk arse.

Dylan is better than both them. Not even close.

MWHIBBIES
31-05-2019, 06:32 PM
Don't talk arse.

Dylan is better than both them. Not even close.

Whatever you say pal

speedy_gonzales
31-05-2019, 08:09 PM
He played for them before.

That he did, as a youth. I just wonder if there were other options on the table, would Rangers rank high amongst them. For wages - definitely, for football - maybe, for the club - doubtful.

pacorosssco
31-05-2019, 09:31 PM
That he did, as a youth. I just wonder if there were other options on the table, would Rangers rank high amongst them. For wages - definitely, for football - maybe, for the club - doubtful.


Dylan agent at work here. I suspect he'll go dons and don't believe rangers have any real interest. Gerrard will want 4-5 players that are significantly better than what he's got already. Would have back but not on a top wage.

J-C
31-05-2019, 09:33 PM
You wonder if Rangers might not be interested due to the fact he turned his back on them to go back to Celtic, they wont be happy about that.

tamig
31-05-2019, 09:57 PM
You wonder if Rangers might not be interested due to the fact he turned his back on them to go back to Celtic, they wont be happy about that.

That was a different club surely?

easty
31-05-2019, 11:29 PM
Jack and Kamara are 2 reasons.

Ryan Jack is a pub team player compared to Dylan. Jacks got plenty effort, not much else.

easty
31-05-2019, 11:31 PM
the rangers have a barrow load of midfielders.
No guarantee of game time.
Money talks though.

No guarantees obv, nobody gets guarantees. Dylan would go there thinking heíll play though, easily good enough, heíd not take the money happy to sit on the bench. FFS itís only rangers.

Barman Stanton
31-05-2019, 11:41 PM
Really donít think he would suit Aberdeenís style of play. Jackson said Hecky insists on playing it out from the back. Dylanís best position. Make sense for both Hibs and McGeouch surely.

Carheenlea
01-06-2019, 07:00 AM
Easter Road is Dylan McGeouchís natural home. I feel heís flown the nest for good though but would be delighted if he was to return.

MWHIBBIES
01-06-2019, 07:02 AM
Ryan Jack is a pub team player compared to Dylan. Jacks got plenty effort, not much else.

Definitely has more than that, good player

PH91
01-06-2019, 07:49 AM
Ryan Jack is a pub team player compared to Dylan. Jacks got plenty effort, not much else.

Ha. Just because he is a pr*ck and plays for rangers does not mean he is a bad player, as much as you would like him to be.

Unfortunately, a midfield trio of jack, kamara and davis is pretty handy as far as scot prem standards go.

Jones28
01-06-2019, 08:02 AM
Jack and Kamara are 2 reasons.

Footballing ability wise DM ****s all over the pair of hem.

Smartie
01-06-2019, 08:50 AM
Ha. Just because he is a pr*ck and plays for rangers does not mean he is a bad player, as much as you would like him to be.

Unfortunately, a midfield trio of jack, kamara and davis is pretty handy as far as scot prem standards go.

Is Davis there on a permanent deal? I thought it was just a loan.

Rangers do seem to be fixated on improving their midfield even though it's the strongest part of their team and they are weak in other areas.

superfurryhibby
01-06-2019, 08:58 AM
Is Davis there on a permanent deal? I thought it was just a loan.

I think heís signed on to join on a permanent contract. Iím not sure heís going to have a big impression in the SPL, 34 year old central midfielders can struggle with the energetic demands of our league.

Anyway, I doubt the hun are too interested, they have Jack, Davis, Kamara, Arfield and Dorrans in central midfield already. Canít see their fans being too impressed by Dylans arrival.

MWHIBBIES
01-06-2019, 09:26 AM
Footballing ability wise DM ****s all over the pair of hem.

No he doesn't. I love the guy and he has enough quality of his own that you shouldn't need to bring others down to make him seem good. He doesn't walk into that Rangers side, simple as. Jack and Kamara both walk into any spl side outside possibly Celtic. Dylan any outside Rangers and Celtic.

BoomtownHibeys
01-06-2019, 09:43 AM
No he doesn't. I love the guy and he has enough quality of his own that you shouldn't need to bring others down to make him seem good. He doesn't walk into that Rangers side, simple as. Jack and Kamara both walk into any spl side outside possibly Celtic. Dylan any outside Rangers and Celtic.

I would take Kamara in a heartbeat. Ryan Jack? Iím not so sure tbh. Would rather have Dylan

we are hibs
02-06-2019, 08:52 AM
Ryan Jack is one of the most overrated players in Scotland.

Hibbyradge
02-06-2019, 08:56 AM
Don't talk arse.

Dylan is better than both them. Not even close.

Do you think they'd drop Kamara or Jack to sign and play McGeouch?

Since452
02-06-2019, 09:45 AM
Ryan Jack is one of the most overrated players in Scotland.

No different to Ian Black imo

easty
02-06-2019, 10:03 AM
Do you think they'd drop Kamara or Jack to sign and play McGeouch?

Yes

bigwheel
02-06-2019, 10:18 AM
Ryan Jack is one of the most overrated players in Scotland.

Iím the opposite..think he is one of the most underrated players in that Rangers team ...does a great job for them ..

Hibbyradge
02-06-2019, 10:56 AM
Yes

Ok. I disagree, but we'll find out soon enough.

The Baldmans Comb
02-06-2019, 11:12 AM
Nice stirring the pot by McGeoghs agent but if Sevco really want him he will go in an instant.

Double the signing on fee and triple the wages on a two year contract is an easy call and if it doesn't work out then move on to Hibs/Sheep
in January 2021.

Would expect Sevco to be looking elsewhere though rather than a player who has had a lot of good one off games but only one decent season.

BoomtownHibeys
02-06-2019, 12:28 PM
Nice stirring the pot by McGeoghs agent but if Sevco really want him he will go in an instant.

Double the signing on fee and triple the wages on a two year contract is an easy call and if it doesn't work out then move on to Hibs/Sheep
in January 2021.

Would expect Sevco to be looking elsewhere though rather than a player who has had a lot of good one off games but only one decent season.

How can you have a lot of good one off games?

FilipinoHibs
02-06-2019, 12:50 PM
How can you have a lot of good one off games?
Good when ever he plays and last season was for most of it.

blackpoolhibs
02-06-2019, 01:09 PM
How can you have a lot of good one off games?


:greengrin Next it will result into a good one off season.

MWHIBBIES
02-06-2019, 02:04 PM
Yes

Think this is a ridiculous level of bias. Dylan is excellent and I love him as a player, long before many on here did. I wanted him back in 2015 and was happy trading Allan for him. He doesn't walk into Rangers midfield though.

easty
02-06-2019, 02:22 PM
Think this is a ridiculous level of bias. Dylan is excellent and I love him as a player, long before many on here did. I wanted him back in 2015 and was happy trading Allan for him. He doesn't walk into Rangers midfield though.

I donít care if you think that 👍

MWHIBBIES
02-06-2019, 02:58 PM
I donít care if you think that 👍

:faf: okay. Great discussion.

If Dylan walks into Rangers team why weren't they after him for free?

easty
02-06-2019, 06:07 PM
:faf: okay. Great discussion.

If Dylan walks into Rangers team why weren't they after him for free?

I dunno. Why did they let Darren McGregor go when he was their player of the season? I dunno, and donít care, why rangers do what they do.

If Ryan Jack is so good, then whyís he not in the Scotland squad? Why does he only have 2 caps? The same amount as Dylan.

MWHIBBIES
02-06-2019, 06:15 PM
I dunno. Why did they let Darren McGregor go when he was their player of the season? I dunno, and donít care, why rangers do what they do.

If Ryan Jack is so good, then whyís he not in the Scotland squad? Why does he only have 2 caps? The same amount as Dylan.
If you're using Scotland caps then he's exactly the same level and less injury prone so why would Rangers want McGeouch? I didn't say Jack was so good, I said McGeouch doesn't walk into the team

SChibs
02-06-2019, 06:32 PM
I dunno. Why did they let Darren McGregor go when he was their player of the season? I dunno, and donít care, why rangers do what they do.

If Ryan Jack is so good, then whyís he not in the Scotland squad? Why does he only have 2 caps? The same amount as Dylan.

They let McGregor go because Warburton wanted to play defenders who are comfortable with the ball at his feet. I think we can all say passing and the like aren't McGregors strong point.

oldbutdim
02-06-2019, 06:39 PM
They let McGregor go because Warburton wanted to play defenders who are comfortable with the ball at his feet. I think we can all say passing and the like aren't McGregors strong point.

Some mistake.
He never gives the ball away.

Real Emerald
02-06-2019, 06:40 PM
I was told from a very good source (and you donít get better) that Dylan was not coming back to Hibs. Maybe a bluff but it certainly convinced me. I think we should forget about bringing him back and move on.

jeffers
02-06-2019, 07:35 PM
I was told from a very good source (and you donít get better) that Dylan was not coming back to Hibs. Maybe a bluff but it certainly convinced me. I think we should forget about bringing him back and move on.

Hopefully true. Heís a decent player, who could be better if he showed more ambition in his play. The way some Hibs fans go on about him youíd think he was Iniesta. Given our current midfield I donít think heís what we need, a proper holding/defensive midfielder to allow Mallan and Allan to flourish is more of a priority IMO.

eastmainsmsh
02-06-2019, 07:45 PM
It's happening I can sense it

Since90+2
02-06-2019, 07:51 PM
Would love Dylan back but I can't see it unfortunately.

You don't win player of the year ahead of John McGinn without being a special talent.

JohnM1875
02-06-2019, 07:54 PM
Would love Dylan back but I can't see it unfortunately.

You don't win player of the year ahead of John McGinn without being a special talent.

There's no way he was better than McGinn that season to be fair. Of course it's a personal opinion.

Stokesy's on fire
02-06-2019, 08:02 PM
Aberdeen guaranteed. They offer better wages than us or anyone else in Scotland old firm aside

How do you know?

MWHIBBIES
02-06-2019, 09:33 PM
Hopefully true. Heís a decent player, who could be better if he showed more ambition in his play. The way some Hibs fans go on about him youíd think he was Iniesta. Given our current midfield I donít think heís what we need, a proper holding/defensive midfielder to allow Mallan and Allan to flourish is more of a priority IMO.
The best 18 months of Scott Allan's career were next to McGeouch. How would he be better if he showed more ambition? His job isn't to score goals, he moves the ball from back 4 into the attackers, the most important job in a team trying to play football.

Michael
02-06-2019, 09:39 PM
Surely we can match Aberdeen for wages? We have bigger crowds and don't have to pay for a new training ground and stadium.

Unseen work
02-06-2019, 09:53 PM
Average wage per player:

Hibs = £103,376
Hearts = £111,600
Aberdeen = 138,667

Thatís a fair difference!

Information from:
https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/premiership/the-average-wage-paid-by-scottish-premiership-clubs-ranked-in-order-1-4880885/amp?page=3


https://www.statista.com/statistics/547202/average-annual-first-team-player-salaray-football-clubs-scottish-premiership/ Gives the same wages again

Celtic 865.61
Rangers 466.56
Aberdeen 138.67
Hearts 111.6
Hibernian 103.38
Dundee 62.83
Kilmarnock 62.82
St Johnstone 48.63
Hamilton 47.88
Motherwell 47.34
St Mirren 46.17
Livingston 34.88


Highlights how well Kilmarnock have done.

JohnM1875
02-06-2019, 09:57 PM
The best 18 months of Scott Allan's career were next to McGeouch. How would he be better if he showed more ambition? His job isn't to score goals, he moves the ball from back 4 into the attackers, the most important job in a team trying to play football.

Both McGeouch and Alan had the best periods of their careers in a midfield that involved McGinn. I don't think that's coincidence. McGinn is something else. We won't see that again for a long time.

I think McGeouch is pretty average and wouldn't break the bank on wages to get him back. I'm not Mallan's biggest fan but I actually would prefer we stuck by him as we seem to be playing him in that roll. Mallan scores goals and Allan will create so many chances.

jeffers
02-06-2019, 10:53 PM
The best 18 months of Scott Allan's career were next to McGeouch. How would he be better if he showed more ambition? His job isn't to score goals, he moves the ball from back 4 into the attackers, the most important job in a team trying to play football.

Scott Allan doesn't need McGeouch to flourish, arguably his best performance in a Hibs jersey was the 4-0 game against the Huns where McGeouch was not playing. He won player of the season in his first spell with us, where McGeouch managed to play only 20 league games.

If he passed the ball forward more than he does, instead of backwards and sideways, and before you say but he keeps possession (and I'm not saying that's a bad thing) so did Milligan and that didn't achieve much either. Yes it's a team game. but McGeouch relies on others to make things happen, his contribution won't win you a game, whereas someone like Scott Allan or Stevie Mallan will.

1875STEVE
02-06-2019, 10:58 PM
Surely we can match Aberdeen for wages? We have bigger crowds and don't have to pay for a new training ground and stadium.

Aberdeen are getting a fair amount pumped in by their version of HSL and are backed by local millionaires iirc

neil7908
03-06-2019, 04:06 AM
I was told from a very good source (and you donít get better) that Dylan was not coming back to Hibs. Maybe a bluff but it certainly convinced me. I think we should forget about bringing him back and move on.

I have absolutely no inside knowledge and could be well wide of the mark but I'm not convinced Dylan has any deep affection for us.

Not to say he thinks badly of the club or fans but I never got a vibe that he was anything other than than a good professional with us. Put it this way, if there is more money available elsewhere he won't be back at ER.

DetroitHibs
03-06-2019, 05:17 AM
I think Dylan will go where the money is for the duration of his career. I have a nagging suspicion that he has a reoccurring injury that will always plague him and he will look to secure as much money as possible. Not an in the know, just a hunch. I know someone that was on the plane with the squad to one of the European ties. Dylan was the only player constantly up in the isles stretching and such. Might be nothing in that, who knows.

Golden Bear
03-06-2019, 05:37 AM
I think Dylan will go where the money is for the duration of his career. I have a nagging suspicion that he has a reoccurring injury that will always plague him and he will look to secure as much money as possible. Not an in the know, just a hunch. I know someone that was on the plane with the squad to one of the European ties. Dylan was the only player constantly up in the isles stretching and such. Might be nothing in that, who knows.

:agree:

That's my opinion as well. He seems to have had quite a few "wee niggles" throughout his Sunderland career and that's one of the reasons why I think we should forget any interest that we may have (or have not?) in him.

J-C
03-06-2019, 07:59 AM
I have absolutely no inside knowledge and could be well wide of the mark but I'm not convinced Dylan has any deep affection for us.

Not to say he thinks badly of the club or fans but I never got a vibe that he was anything other than than a good professional with us. Put it this way, if there is more money available elsewhere he won't be back at ER.


I think you seen that when as a youth and a staunch Celtic supporter he moved to Rangers, probably for more money, he them moved back when Lennon convinced him to return. He had a very good final season with us and seemingly we offer one of the best deals of anyone at the club but he chose Sunderland in Div 1, I don't think he was on huge money down there but I think promotion was giving him a big increase. Like you I always felt he was doing his job, yes he had an liking for the club but not the affection shown by McGinn, Allan and a few others.

w pilton hibby
03-06-2019, 08:11 AM
I think you seen that when as a youth and a staunch Celtic supporter he moved to Rangers, probably for more money, he them moved back when Lennon convinced him to return. He had a very good final season with us and seemingly we offer one of the best deals of anyone at the club but he chose Sunderland in Div 1, I don't think he was on huge money down there but I think promotion was giving him a big increase. Like you I always felt he was doing his job, yes he had an liking for the club but not the affection shown by McGinn, Allan and a few others.

From Wikipedia -

McGeouch started his career with the Celtic youth system,

He left Celtic in 2008 after his older brother Darren, who was also playing for the club's youth teams, fell out of favour.

McGeouch went to Rangers in 2008, but he returned to Celtic in 2011 after Neil Lennon visited his house and asked him to come back. Rangers manager Walter Smith had appealed to McGeouch to stay at Rangers. Rangers were later awarded £100,000 by a transfer tribunal regarding the McGeouch transfer.

Lago
03-06-2019, 02:06 PM
I have absolutely no inside knowledge and could be well wide of the mark but I'm not convinced Dylan has any deep affection for us.

Not to say he thinks badly of the club or fans but I never got a vibe that he was anything other than than a good professional with us. Put it this way, if there is more money available elsewhere he won't be back at ER.

I think you've hit the nail on the head.

Diclonius
03-06-2019, 02:28 PM
I have absolutely no inside knowledge and could be well wide of the mark but I'm not convinced Dylan has any deep affection for us.

Not to say he thinks badly of the club or fans but I never got a vibe that he was anything other than than a good professional with us. Put it this way, if there is more money available elsewhere he won't be back at ER.

Yup.

Not sure he was particularly bothered about coming back to us after the loan (hence him wanting a two year deal when we wanted four), and was extremely reluctant to sign a new contract (though not sure how much of that was down to Lennon).

If he comes back up here it'll be to the club who can offer him the most money. That won't be us.