Huawei

[Callum_62]

Interesting development with Google confirming they have no option but to comply to the USA govts banning order which will effectively stop the Google functions like play store etc appearing on "future versions"

I literally just got a p30pro last week and it's great

I believe Huaweis consumer products have never been an issue - so is this straight politics?

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[JeMeSouviens]

Interesting development with Google confirming they have no option but to comply to the USA govts banning order which will effectively stop the Google functions like play store etc appearing on "future versions"

I literally just got a p30pro last week and it's great

I believe Huaweis consumer products have never been an issue - so is this straight politics?

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Imo, it's more trade protectionism dressed up as politics.

[Bangkok Hibby]

Interesting development with Google confirming they have no option but to comply to the USA govts banning order which will effectively stop the Google functions like play store etc appearing on "future versions"

I literally just got a p30pro last week and it's great

I believe Huaweis consumer products have never been an issue - so is this straight politics?

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No Google, fantastic. I'll stick with Huawei then.

[danhibees1875]

Huawei is a great phone. I've had them for 3 years and still can't pronounce their name though. :greengrin

The P9 and currently on the P20 pro - the cameras are fantastic, as well as an all round sound phone. Hopefully they sort out all these issues by the time I come round to upgrading again.

[Hibby70]

Great value phones.

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[Pretty Boy]

The best thing about Huawei phones is the battery life. Absolutely pisses all over Samsung and Apple.

The cameras are superb as well.

[Callum_62]

Great or not if this Sticks it could decimate there sales in the west

They are apparently the 2nd biggest smartphone seller behind Samsung so I'm guessing Google etc won't be delighted to lose them anyway

The camera on this p30 Pro is absolutely amazing - nightmode is astonishingly good

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[JeMeSouviens]

Great or not if this Sticks it could decimate there sales in the west

They are apparently the 2nd biggest smartphone seller behind Samsung so I'm guessing Google etc won't be delighted to lose them anyway

The camera on this p30 Pro is absolutely amazing - nightmode is astonishing good

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Most spy-usable photies are going to be after dark. :wink:

[jonty]

Trumps playing games.
How long before and American company tries to fill the gap.

[hibs#1]

I've got Huawei it's an amazing phone battery life is fantastic compared to other phones I've had. Only problem I've had is some websites won't let me buy off of them and I've had my cards blocked several times due apparent fraudulent activity (it's not its me that's trying to buy) when shopping on my phone. It's not dodgy websites either it's Nike footlocker etc. I wondered if was linked to this situation anyone else had this kind of trouble?

[beensaidbefore]

Supposedly it is written I to Chinese law that every Chinese firm must submit all info they have to the government. This includes info about who your custo ers are and what messagez they send. My understanding is this would effectively give the Chinese govt access to all kinds of info about anyone who uses a Huawei device.

I may have picked that up wrong though.

[Callum_62]

Supposedly it is written I to Chinese law that every Chinese firm must submit all info they have to the government. This includes info about who your custo ers are and what messagez they send. My understanding is this would effectively give the Chinese govt access to all kinds of info about anyone who uses a Huawei device.

I may have picked that up wrong though.So like Facebook but they give up the info for free - supposedly? [emoji6][emoji849]

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[beensaidbefore]

So like Facebook but they give up the info for free - supposedly? [emoji6][emoji849]

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Believe it or not, but I don't actually use Facebook, so not really sure what scams they are up to😂

Can't remember where I read about it but iv added a link to some more reading, in case you fancied a look. 👍

https://www.google.com/search?client=ms-android-tmobile-gb&ei=Q8ziXM_gAb2H1fAP9deo2Ag&q=huawei+and+the+obligation+to+chinese+government&oq=huawei+and+the+obligation+to+hinese+government&gs_l=mobile-gws-wiz-serp.1.0.30i10.33117.39104..40090...0.0..1.752.432 7.0j8j3j0j1j2j1......0....1.........0i71j35i304i39 .XGpNdx2r42A

[Peevemor]

I don't have a Huawei phone but a Xiaomi (by far the best value for money I've had). Even so, if every single thing I did on my phone was harvested and passed on to the Chinese government, there would be zero risk to national security. I suspect this will be the case for the vast majority of people.

For me, the thought of what Google/Android does with my data is far more sinister.

[Bangkok Hibby]

Huawei is a great phone. I've had them for 3 years and still can't pronounce their name though. :greengrin

The P9 and currently on the P20 pro - the cameras are fantastic, as well as an all round sound phone. Hopefully they sort out all these issues by the time I come round to upgrading again.


In Thailand it's consistently called Wah Way

[Ozyhibby]

I don't have a Huawei phone but a Xiaomi (by far the best value for money I've had). Even so, if every single thing I did on my phone was harvested and passed on to the Chinese government, there would be zero risk to national security. I suspect this will be the case for the vast majority of people.

For me, the thought of what Google/Android does with my data is far more sinister.

It’s not you individually they are interested in. It’s the population as a whole. It’s possible they could target our democracy if they have enough information.
I use Apple and I know they are a lot more expensive, I think they are the most secure option available.


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[Hibbyradge]

In Thailand it's consistently called Wah Way

That's how it's pronounced in the UK too

Or should be.

[Callum_62]

It’s not you individually they are interested in. It’s the population as a whole. It’s possible they could target our democracy if they have enough information.
I use Apple and I know they are a lot more expensive, I think they are the most secure option available.


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[HappyAsHellas]

It’s not you individually they are interested in. It’s the population as a whole. It’s possible they could target our democracy if they have enough information.
I use Apple and I know they are a lot more expensive, I think they are the most secure option available.


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In what way are they more secure? I'm not talking about the OS itself as anything is less vulnerable to attack than windows, but rather the transmission of the data itself will be the same as all other phones I'd imagine. As well as using the same apps etc.

[Ozyhibby]

In what way are they more secure? I'm not talking about the OS itself as anything is less vulnerable to attack than windows, but rather the transmission of the data itself will be the same as all other phones I'd imagine. As well as using the same apps etc.

No specialist knowledge, sorry. I am just under the impression they are more secure because I’ve heard it said so often. It may not be true. I also think Volvo have the safest cars but that may not be true either.[emoji3]


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[HappyAsHellas]

I always knew that computers running Apple or Linux systems are more secure than windows platforms but don't really know much about the phone side of things. On the car side, you really can't get better than an old Volvo estate - built like tanks they were!

[JeMeSouviens]

I always knew that computers running Apple or Linux systems are more secure than windows platforms but don't really know much about the phone side of things. On the car side, you really can't get better than an old Volvo estate - built like tanks they were!

Android has linux at its core.

Apple security is good because they automatically update the whole iOS user base and they keep doing it for years after you've bought the phone. Android updating is by manufacturer, much patchier and doesn't tend to last as long, ie. they stop pushing updates for older phones sooner.

[jonty]

Android has linux at its core.

Apple security is good because they automatically update the whole iOS user base and they keep doing it for years after you've bought the phone. Android updating is by manufacturer, much patchier and doesn't tend to last as long, ie. they stop pushing updates for older phones sooner.
I've only quote you because of your apple comment :greengrin
Its only because they force you purchase a new phone because they wont make it run on old hardware (sometimes for good reason, sometimes just to make more money). They didn't become the most cash rich company in the world for nothing.
(ignore the rest, i'm not trying to teach my granny to suck eggs :greengrin)

Anyhoo
Apple and *nix used to be less popular, therefore less targeted. Times have changed.
Apple gave up developing its own OS and ported to *nix.
The downside with iOS is that its tied to the hardware, and if Apple don't want to update your device then you're forced into buying a new device or you're stuffed.
Same with apps - Apple and co force the developers to update their apps for different screens/devices/OSs which mean some old apps - which are perfectly fine, never see the light of day again.
The update from iOS10 threw a lot of my most commonly used apps under the bus.

You can usually cram a new OS onto older hardware for windows and *nix. I dare say, where theres a will, theres a way for the apple devices, but that would involve jailbreaking them, which isn't supported.

Then like most OS developers, older OSs become unsupported.

[Smartie]

I always knew that computers running Apple or Linux systems are more secure than windows platforms but don't really know much about the phone side of things. On the car side, you really can't get better than an old Volvo estate - built like tanks they were!

I remember someone telling me about something they'd seen (may have been on Top Gear) where they were crashing old Volvos estates into modern little Peugeots that were designed to crumple.

The modern cars absolutely kicked the old Volvos' asses for safety.

The old Volvos were the best of their time, but car safety has really moved on.


(Sorry - carry on. Fwiw I also use apple for anecdotal reasons of security).

[HappyAsHellas]

Many years ago we ran a scrapyard and would stack cars on top of each other - open the doors (sellable), put a strap through and lift the cars into place. Only on Volvo's would the doors close as if nothing had happened. Nothing to do with modern encap regulations but if you're going roly poly in a car that's the one to buy!

Apologies for being off topic.

[Bangkok Hibby]

Great value phones.

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Just noticed this...nice one :greengrin

[Fuzzywuzzy]

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/05/24/tech/donald-trump-huawei-ban/index.html

[Callum_62]

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/05/24/tech/donald-trump-huawei-ban/index.htmlShock!

Surely a threat to national security can't be bargained with

Unless.... [emoji848]

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[Hibbyradge]

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/05/24/tech/donald-trump-huawei-ban/index.html

"Huawei is something that's very dangerous".

It's like he's talking to a very small child.

Or maybe it's like he is a very small child. 🤔

[Jamesie]

Just took the opportunity presented by the slight depression in prices we have seen since this announcement to upgrade my already excellent P20 Pro Smartphone to a P30 Pro. Confident that this is all political bluster and Huawei will come out the other end stronger.

[danhibees1875]

Just took the opportunity presented by the slight depression in prices we have seen since this announcement to upgrade my already excellent P20 Pro Smartphone to a P30 Pro. Confident that this is all political bluster and Huawei will come out the other end stronger.

Were you mid contract or due an upgrade anyway?

I have the P20 pro currently but only half way through my contract (I think).

[JeMeSouviens]

Just took the opportunity presented by the slight depression in prices we have seen since this announcement to upgrade my already excellent P20 Pro Smartphone to a P30 Pro. Confident that this is all political bluster and Huawei will come out the other end stronger.

Hmmm, it is all political bluster but there is a potential problem in that Huawei devices might stop getting security updates to the Android OS itself. I think the longer term position on that is unclear atm.

[GreenLake]

The only thing that is new is an actual response to what has been going on for years.

https://www.businessinsider.com/major-us-tech-companies-blocked-from-operating-in-china-2019-5 (https://www.businessinsider.com/major-us-tech-companies-blocked-from-operating-in-china-2019-5)

http://fortune.com/2019/03/01/china-ip-theft/

This won't end soon and it won't end well.