Prize money

[Moulin Yarns]

Was having a look to see what we can expect.


Ladbrokes Premiership
1st - 13.40% - £3,350,000
2nd - 9.60% - £2,400,000
3rd - 8.25% - £2,062,500
4th - 7.25% - £1,812,500
5th - 6.75% - £1,687,500
6th - 6.25% - £1,562,500
7th - 5.75% - £1,437,500
8th - 5.50% - £1,375,000
9th - 5.25% - £1,312,500
10th -5.00% - £1,250,000
11th - 4.75% - £1,187,500
12th - 4.50% - £1,125,000

[The 90+2]

We get £1.7 less than 1st but only gain £500k more than bottom? That doesn’t seem very fair.

[CMurdoch]

Was having a look to see what we can expect.


Ladbrokes Premiership
1st - 13.40% - £3,350,000
2nd - 9.60% - £2,400,000
3rd - 8.25% - £2,062,500
4th - 7.25% - £1,812,500
5th - 6.75% - £1,687,500
6th - 6.25% - £1,562,500
7th - 5.75% - £1,437,500
8th - 5.50% - £1,375,000
9th - 5.25% - £1,312,500
10th -5.00% - £1,250,000
11th - 4.75% - £1,187,500
12th - 4.50% - £1,125,000

They should reduce the top prize to £3m and 2nd to £2.3M. Then feed the reclaimed £450k into the remuneration for the bottom 9 teams in the league at £50,000k.
each. We know the top 2 teams have access to way more money than the rest. Even an extra £50k given to the other teams will have a small positive effect on the league. The big losers Celtic would understand. It's what Brother Walfrid would have wanted. £350k for them this season was just Scott Allan doing nothing for a year. They didn't feel it.

[Sioux]

They should reduce the top prize to £3m and 2nd to £2.3M. Then feed the reclaimed £450k into the remuneration for the bottom 9 teams in the league at £50,000k.
each. We know the top 2 teams have access to way more money than the rest. Even an extra £50k given to the other teams will have a small positive effect on the league. The big losers Celtic would understand. It's what Brother Walfrid would have wanted. £350k for them this season was just Scott Allan doing nothing for a year. They didn't feel it.

The top prize should be meaningful, and runner up is an achievement. The rest are also rans. We get the scraps. Its sport and that's how it should be. Unless you want a communist type competition where every competitor gets the same prize money.

[Wakeyhibee]

The top prize should be meaningful, and runner up is an achievement. The rest are also rans. We get the scraps. Its sport and that's how it should be. Unless you want a communist type competition where every competitor gets the same prize money.

It's based largely on TV money which is a deal for all clubs. They have to strike a balance, it also gives clubs something play for if relegation/Europe is not a factor

[Moulin Yarns]

Not tried to work it out, but if the total prize pot is divided total points the prize would be a reflection on how well you did.

[sambajustice]

Would never ever happen but a cool system would be to assign a monetary value to each point won!

[Itsnoteasy]

They should reduce the top prize to £3m and 2nd to £2.3M. Then feed the reclaimed £450k into the remuneration for the bottom 9 teams in the league at £50,000k.
each. We know the top 2 teams have access to way more money than the rest. Even an extra £50k given to the other teams will have a small positive effect on the league. The big losers Celtic would understand. It's what Brother Walfrid would have wanted. £350k for them this season was just Scott Allan doing nothing for a year. They didn't feel it.

The Rangers haven't finished 2nd since being demoted for cheating. Until this year.

[Hibbyradge]

The Rangers haven't finished 2nd since being demoted for cheating. Until this year.

The Rangers have never been demoted.

Neither were Rangers.

[Michael]

Should only be a 50% difference at most between first and last IMO.

[Itsnoteasy]

The Rangers have never been demoted.

Neither were Rangers.

They've still no finished 2nd in the top league for a few years THE or not THE rangers

[Sammy7nil]

The top prize should be meaningful, and runner up is an achievement. The rest are also rans. We get the scraps. Its sport and that's how it should be. Unless you want a communist type competition where every competitor gets the same prize money.

You mean like the NFL where they share everything and have the most successful franchise in the world :cb

[lyonhibs]

You mean like the NFL where they share everything and have the most successful franchise in the world :cb

A slight tangent here perhaps but have you ever tried, like really tried to actually WATCH NFL though?

Give me Morecambe vs Charlton in an FA Cup replay on the telly any day. I'd even stretch to say I'd rather be a Hearts ST holder than have NFL be my main source of sporting delight.

[SChibs]

Have you ever tried, like really tried to actually WATCH NFL though?

Give me Morecambe vs Charlton in an FA Cup replay on the telly any day. I'd even stretch to say I'd rather be a Hearts ST holder than have NFL be my main source of sporting delight.

Thats just personal preference though surely? It can still be successful even if people don't like it

[Sammy7nil]

Thats just personal preference though surely? It can still be successful even if people don't like it

It can only be successful if some people like it :greengrin

[lyonhibs]

Thats just personal preference though surely? It can still be successful even if people don't like it

I know. Like I say a bit of a tangent. It's a hugely successful sport, but dire to watch IMO. Anyway, once someone can explain to me how the devil a draft system works and how Jim White can get involved twice a season on SSN, I might be a bit more amenable to the idea

[Sammy7nil]

I know. Like I say a bit of a tangent. It's a hugely successful sport, but dire to watch IMO. Anyway, once someone can explain to me how the devil a draft system works and how Jim White can get involved twice a season on SSN, I might be a bit more amenable to the idea

If you get in to it, it is a fantastic game. I would recommend recording or pausing it on tv to FF through the adverts and breaks in play.:aok: I am not sure how it works at the actual game but lager and cheer leaders probably help :greengrin

[Hibbyradge]

They've still no finished 2nd in the top league for a few years THE or not THE rangers

That bit is correct.

[Hibbyradge]

If you get in to it, it is a fantastic game. I would recommend recording or pausing it on tv to FF through the adverts and breaks in play.:aok: I am not sure how it works at the actual game but lager and cheer leaders probably help :greengrin

I saw the Miami Dolphins play the New England Patriots 18 months ago. It was a brilliant experience from start to finish.

Great food, plenty beer and a great game.

I'd definitely go back and I'd watch more of it on TV if it was on at a better time.

[Sammy7nil]

I saw the Miami Dolphins play the New England Patriots 18 months ago. It was a brilliant experience from start to finish.

Great food, plenty beer and a great game.

I'd definitely go back and I'd watch more of it on TV if it was on at a better time.

Great to hear an NFL game in America is on my to do list.

[Eyrie]

The top prize should be meaningful, and runner up is an achievement. The rest are also rans. We get the scraps. Its sport and that's how it should be. Unless you want a communist type competition where every competitor gets the same prize money.

Surely the prize is winning the league and being crowned champions?

And no-one is suggesting that every team gets the same prize money, just that the differences are less extreme between places.

[Itsnoteasy]

That bit is correct.

:not worth

[Keith_M]

Don't they have a more equal system in The Netherlands?

[Moulin Yarns]

Would never ever happen but a cool system would be to assign a monetary value to each point won!

That's what I said in the post immediately above yours

[jacomo]

They should reduce the top prize to £3m and 2nd to £2.3M. Then feed the reclaimed £450k into the remuneration for the bottom 9 teams in the league at £50,000k.
each. We know the top 2 teams have access to way more money than the rest. Even an extra £50k given to the other teams will have a small positive effect on the league. The big losers Celtic would understand. It's what Brother Walfrid would have wanted. £350k for them this season was just Scott Allan doing nothing for a year. They didn't feel it.


See when we win the league next season I am going to be raging at you.

[jacomo]

I saw the Miami Dolphins play the New England Patriots 18 months ago. It was a brilliant experience from start to finish.

Great food, plenty beer and a great game.

I'd definitely go back and I'd watch more of it on TV if it was on at a better time.


I hope you were supporting the dolphins

ABP

[Fife-Hibee]

The top prize should be meaningful, and runner up is an achievement. The rest are also rans. We get the scraps. Its sport and that's how it should be. Unless you want a communist type competition where every competitor gets the same prize money.

Ah, but the issue with the current Capitalist model is that it gives those at the very top a financial advantage, which helps them to maintain that status. By maintaining that status, it allows them to amass greater wealth and power over the rest. Wealth and power they can use to implement their own regime on the league. :wink:

[Moulin Yarns]

I have added a prize allocation based on points achieved to today


Was having a look to see what we can expect.


Ladbrokes Premiership
1st - 13.40% - £3,350,000 £2,873,890
2nd - 9.60% - £2,400,000 £2,565,973
3rd - 8.25% - £2,062,500 £2,086,992
4th - 7.25% - £1,812,500 £2,086,992
5th - 6.75% - £1,687,500 £1,847,501
6th - 6.25% - £1,562,500 £1,744,862
7th - 5.75% - £1,437,500 £1,676,436
8th - 5.50% - £1,375,000 £1,642,223
9th - 5.25% - £1,312,500 £1,505,371
10th -5.00% - £1,250,000 £1,026,389
11th - 4.75% - £1,187,500 £889,537.40
12th - 4.50% - £1,125,000 £615,833.60

The losers in this way of allocating prize money are Celtc, who won't miss it as much, and the bottom 3 who need it the most

[Diclonius]

Better than the previous disribution which was pertty much:
1st: $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
2nd: $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
3rd-12th: Prize money? Whit. Okay. Here's a couple pennies from Doncaster's change box.

They changed it once Rangers left the SPL and were no longer guaranteed 2nd. Wonder why?

[Billy Whizz]

Premier league payments, and wonder how we compete

1 £38.4m
2 £36.5m
3 £34.6m
4 £32.6m
5 £30.7m
6 £28.8m
7 £26.9m
8 £25m
9 £23.1m
10 £21.1m
11 £19.2m
12 £17.3m
13 £15.4m
14 £13.4m
15 £11.5m
16 £9.6m
17 £7.7m
18 £5.8m
19 £3.8m
20 £1.9m

Seemingly West Ham can earn another £8M on Sunday day, dependent on where they finish

[OtleyHibs]

I hope you were supporting the dolphins

ABP

This!! Go fins!! 😄

Out of curiosity, someone mentioned earlier that NFL was the most successful franchise in the world, is this accurate?? I only ask cos I love the NFL but get constant abuse for this! (I do live in Yorkshire so this may be a rugby/American football thing)

[Michael]

Premier league payments, and wonder how we compete

1 £38.4m
2 £36.5m
3 £34.6m
4 £32.6m
5 £30.7m
6 £28.8m
7 £26.9m
8 £25m
9 £23.1m
10 £21.1m
11 £19.2m
12 £17.3m
13 £15.4m
14 £13.4m
15 £11.5m
16 £9.6m
17 £7.7m
18 £5.8m
19 £3.8m
20 £1.9m

Seemingly West Ham can earn another £8M on Sunday day, dependent on where they finish

The premier league payments are completely different to this. This from 1999 or something?

[Billy Whizz]

The premier league payments are completely different to this. This from 1999 or something?

This is prize money from where they finish
They also get a share of TV money, last year it was £35m each, plus a facility payment, e.g. how many times they were on TV

Manchester City got £149m in total last season

[Criswell]

The top prize should be meaningful, and runner up is an achievement. The rest are also rans. We get the scraps. Its sport and that's how it should be. Unless you want a communist type competition where every competitor gets the same prize money.

Doesn't do much to generate a more competitive product, however.

[hhibs]

I saw the Miami Dolphins play the New England Patriots 18 months ago. It was a brilliant experience from start to finish.

Great food, plenty beer and a great game.

I'd definitely go back and I'd watch more of it on TV if it was on at a better time.


Just call me when the Browns make it to the Superbowl !:brickwall:brickwall

[hhibs]

This!! Go fins!! 😄

Out of curiosity, someone mentioned earlier that NFL was the most successful franchise in the world, is this accurate?? I only ask cos I love the NFL but get constant abuse for this! (I do live in Yorkshire so this may be a rugby/American football thing)



Nah,its a Yorkshire thing "Yorkshire born,Yorkshire bred,strong in the arm,thick in the head" to quote various including the late ,great,Ken Dodd.

[Diclonius]

£1.7m it is then.

[ColintonHibs]

They should reduce the top prize to £3m and 2nd to £2.3M. Then feed the reclaimed £450k into the remuneration for the bottom 9 teams in the league at £50,000k.
each. We know the top 2 teams have access to way more money than the rest. Even an extra £50k given to the other teams will have a small positive effect on the league. The big losers Celtic would understand. It's what Brother Walfrid would have wanted. £350k for them this season was just Scott Allan doing nothing for a year. They didn't feel it.

Nah we should stop aiming for 3rd every year and try to win the league instead of crying and thinking it’s not possible. Leicester done it.

[neil7908]

Nah we should stop aiming for 3rd every year and try to win the league instead of crying and thinking it’s not possible. Leicester done it.

Yeah it's just a matter of will. If we believe enough it'll happen 😕

[ColintonHibs]

Yeah it's just a matter of will. If we believe enough it'll happen 😕

Prob won’t happen but better than every other thread crying about celtic and rangers having so much more money

[Eyrie]

Prob won’t happen but better than every other thread crying about celtic and rangers having so much more money

That's simple realism.

We can match Celtc and Sevco over 90 minutes in any game (league or cup), but their massive financial advantage gives them a level of talent and strength in depth that we can't match over the course of a league season.

It's the same advantage that we had in our third year in the lower league. Teams could match us for an individual game, but over 36 matches we were simply too strong.