Today’s Football

[WeeRussell]

Looks as if English clubs will dominate European football for sometime to come.

I don't see it that way myself. They'll need to win one again first of all, which hasn't YET happened this year.

Spanish teams have won 7 of the last 10 champions leagues, and 6 of the last 10 Europa leagues. That could be described as dominating and I doubt very much that the English Premier League will replicate it over the next decade.

[G B Young]

Really this is tiresome chat and has been for years. The CL this year has been one of the best to watch, your making a mockery comment is just nonsense. It’s called the Champions league because the winners are the champions of Europe, nothing to do with individual champions and never has been since they changed the format.


I've never heard that explanation before. If that's the case you could call any football competition the Champions League as whoever wins it will be the champions.

I think it's perfectly valid to question the name. And not just the word 'Champions'. Describing it as a 'League' makes no sense either!

[CMurdoch]

Best match report I've read in years ...

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/european/liverpool-barcelona-divock-origi-georginio-wijnaldum-goals-champions-league-final-result-latest-a8903876.html

Wow!

[JeMeSouviens]

I've never heard that explanation before. If that's the case you could call any football competition the Champions League as whoever wins it will be the champions.

I think it's perfectly valid to question the name. And not just the word 'Champions'. Describing it as a 'League' makes no sense either!

I think that was UEFA trying to make it seem like a European Super League, which the big clubs were threatening, but keep some continuity with the old name, which was officially the European Champion Clubs' Cup although everyone here called it the European Cup (I still do).

Anyway, I think the format is pretty good now. The problem is the bias to the big leagues and self reinforcing advantage their clubs get.

[Scouse Hibee]

I've never heard that explanation before. If that's the case you could call any football competition the Champions League as whoever wins it will be the champions.

I think it's perfectly valid to question the name. And not just the word 'Champions'. Describing it as a 'League' makes no sense either!

I think you need to check the definition of the word League to find it makes perfect sense.

[Rumble de Thump]

Liverpool should have allowed Barcelona to walk a goal in after the Liverpool player pretended he wasn't going to take the corner then doubled back to cross for the fourth goal. Clear cheating and the referee should have booked him for poor sportsmanship.

[HoboHarry]

Liverpool should have allowed Barcelona to walk a goal in after the Liverpool player pretended he wasn't going to take the corner then doubled back to cross for the fourth goal. Clear cheating and the referee should have booked him for poor sportsmanship.
Aye, and a skelped lug fae his maw as well when he got home.......

[G B Young]

I think you need to check the definition of the word League to find it makes perfect sense.

The Oxford English Dictionary definition (in relation to the word's use in sport) is: 'A group of sports clubs which play each other over a period for a championship.'

By that definition most of the clubs who take part in the Champions League don't play each other at all, so it can't accurately be defined as a 'league'. The Champions League is a series of qualifying ties followed by a series of group matches and concluded by a knock-out stage. A cup competition is surely how most would describe it.

Easiest solution as others have suggested is to remove the misleading 'Champions' and the equally misleading 'League' and restore its traditional name - the European Cup.

[Scouse Hibee]

The Oxford English Dictionary definition (in relation to the word's use in sport) is: 'A group of sports clubs which play each other over a period for a championship.'

By that definition most of the clubs who take part in the Champions League don't play each other at all, so it can't accurately be defined as a 'league'. The Champions League is a series of qualifying ties followed by a series of group matches and concluded by a knock-out stage. A cup competition is surely how most would describe it.

Easiest solution as others have suggested is to remove the misleading 'Champions' and the equally misleading 'League' and restore its traditional name - the European Cup.

I was referring to:


A class or category of quality or excellence, the category or quality of excellence being those clubs that qualify for the champions league under the set criteria, makes perfect sense to me.

[MWHIBBIES]

The Oxford English Dictionary definition (in relation to the word's use in sport) is: 'A group of sports clubs which play each other over a period for a championship.'

By that definition most of the clubs who take part in the Champions League don't play each other at all, so it can't accurately be defined as a 'league'. The Champions League is a series of qualifying ties followed by a series of group matches and concluded by a knock-out stage. A cup competition is surely how most would describe it.

Easiest solution as others have suggested is to remove the misleading 'Champions' and the equally misleading 'League' and restore its traditional name - the European Cup.

It's a branding name. There is no need for any solution because there is no problem.

[cabbageandribs1875]

so, Ajax 1 Spurs 0 after 4 mins...Ajax v Liverspool looking likely

[HoboHarry]

Spurs up against it now. Trippier lost his man then stood and watched.

[Jack Hackett]

Liverpool should have allowed Barcelona to walk a goal in after the Liverpool player pretended he wasn't going to take the corner then doubled back to cross for the fourth goal. Clear cheating and the referee should have booked him for poor sportsmanship.

I'd be more inclined to take that comment seriously if your username wasn't Spanish. Then again... mibbae no :greengrin

[Scouse Hibee]

I can see why Liverpool are favourites to win the CL after 30 minutes of this game between two poor teams

[Tug Wilson]

Spurs up against it now. Trippier lost his man then stood and watched.

Trippier is so overrated

[SteveHFC]

Spurs out

[Sir David Gray]

So Ajax v Liverpool in the final.

Come on Ajax! :pray:

[PatHead]

Spurs getting taken by the cleaners.

[Sylar]

Ajax look superb here.

[cleanyman]

I can see why Liverpool are favourites to win the CL after 30 minutes of this game between two poor teams

I wouldn't say Ajax are a poor team...

[Squealing pig]

No chance of coming back from 3-0 down ......

[SlickShoes]

Trippier has been murder and basically gifted them two goals

[MWHIBBIES]

I can see why Liverpool are favourites to win the CL after 30 minutes of this game between two poor teams

Wish Hibs were as poor as these teams.

[Scouse Hibee]

I wouldn't say Ajax are a poor team...


I was meaning on tonight's performance after 30 minutes

[Scouse Hibee]

Wish Hibs were as poor as these teams.


I wish Hibs were as good as Liverpool

[MWHIBBIES]

Tottenham showing a few top 4 finishes and a new stadium that was a year behind schedule doesn't make you one of the big boys.

[Scouse Hibee]

Tottenham showing a few top 4 finishes and a new stadium that was a year behind schedule doesn't make you one of the big boys.


Not over yet, wait for the second half transformation :greengrin

[04Sauzee]

How many players at top clubs are so one footed? Really annoys me guys on 80k+ and can only cross or have a pop at goal with one foot.

[Sylar]

Every Scottish club should be arranging a trip out to Amsterdam to copy their academy recipe.

The amount of world class talent they've produced over the years, and continue to produce, is quite ridiculous.

The Dutch national side will be licking their lips at what lies ahead in the next few years.

[HoboHarry]

Every Scottish club should be arranging a trip out to Amsterdam to copy their academy recipe.

The amount of world class talent they've produced over the years, and continue to produce, is quite ridiculous.

The Dutch national side will be licking their lips at what lies ahead in the next few years.

Aw come on now, Scotland have got Malky McKay. What could go wrong?

[chrisski33]

Liverpool should have allowed Barcelona to walk a goal in after the Liverpool player pretended he wasn't going to take the corner then doubled back to cross for the fourth goal. Clear cheating and the referee should have booked him for poor sportsmanship.

Did ur team lose by any chance?

[Since452]

Ajax make me fall in love with football. What a team.

[StevesFamau5]

Liverpool should have allowed Barcelona to walk a goal in after the Liverpool player pretended he wasn't going to take the corner then doubled back to cross for the fourth goal. Clear cheating and the referee should have booked him for poor sportsmanship.

Ye ragin' aye???

'Mon the dutchies

[Rumble de Thump]

Ye ragin' aye???

'Mon the dutchies

No. I'm just keen on fair play. Step overs should also be outlawed.

[Lago]

Little wonder Wanyana is off, fairly gone backwards this season.

[Jones28]

No. I'm just keen on fair play. Step overs should also be outlawed.

So if the corner had been played short and the players weren't ready and they still scored from it would the same be said?

[Sylar]

What a stunning atmosphere in the Amsterdam Arena.

[heretoday]

Rose should have shot.

[StevesFamau5]

No. I'm just keen on fair play. Step overs should also be outlawed.

Whatever cool aid you are sipping, I would stop.

You confuse me....

[hibsbollah]

Every Scottish club should be arranging a trip out to Amsterdam to copy their academy recipe.

The amount of world class talent they've produced over the years, and continue to produce, is quite ridiculous.

The Dutch national side will be licking their lips at what lies ahead in the next few years.

But it's come out of left field. I read nothing about the imminent return of Ajax to the top table when they were in the group stage in the autumn, even when they beat Bayern. They've been second in the Dutch league for large parts of the season, and still might not even win it. Then they tear Madrid and Juve apart twice each and now a top Spurs side. Six legs of almost perfect knockout football. And literally no pundits saw it coming. It's set for a beautiful final now.

[Sylar]

Game on! 2-1 (3-1)

[pontius pilate]

Game on 2-2 not again not another night of comebacks

[Sylar]

Wow!

2-2 (3-2).

[hibsbollah]

Oh my goodness

[Hibs90]

Surely not :greengrin

[Glory Lurker]

That was like a Sensible Soccer goal!

[Scouse Hibee]

Not over yet, wait for the second half transformation :greengrin



:greengrin

[hibsbollah]

I've just rewatched Spurs first goal. Don't think you get a better counter attack goal than that. One end of the pitch to another

[HoboHarry]

Not over yet, wait for the second half transformation :greengrin

Youre Mystic Meg aren't ye?

[pontius pilate]

The only problem I can see for spurs is they have no game changers in the bench an extra attacking option or midfield option as they will undoubtedly get tired pressing and pushing

[Glory Lurker]

I've just rewatched Spurs first goal. Don't think you get a better counter attack goal than that. One end of the pitch to another

Steady. Dom v Aberdeen, surely? :greengrin

[cabbageandribs1875]

turned over at HT :rolleyes: mon the green team

[DH1875]

Every Scottish club should be arranging a trip out to Amsterdam to copy their academy recipe.

The amount of world class talent they've produced over the years, and continue to produce, is quite ridiculous.

The Dutch national side will be licking their lips at what lies ahead in the next few years.

Am I right in thinking Celtic have a higher wage bill than Ajax?

[cabbageandribs1875]

what an utter fool rose is


bet the Ajax fans are a bitty nervous now :greengrin

[One Day Soon]

I love how the Ajax idea of game management is to just keep attacking at high speed when they have possession.

[One Day Soon]

Am I right in thinking Celtic have a higher wage bill than Ajax?

Almost certainly. They buy other people's talent.

[SteveHFC]

Holy ****

[Sir David Gray]

3-2 Spurs!

[cabbageandribs1875]

lol :greengrin

[HH81]

Wow. What a pair of semi finals.

[Sir David Gray]

I can't believe what I'm watching.

[Scouse Hibee]

Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaas get in

[telford hibbee]

Unbelievable

[pontius pilate]

Wow just wow

[DH1875]

Mental.

[Sylar]

Jesus...

[Scouse Hibee]

Youre Mystic Meg aren't ye?


Yes I am :greengrin

[StevesFamau5]

What just happened...... Like seriously... What did I just see....

[HH81]

Spurs through.

[Pretty Boy]

That is unbelievable. 2 utterly incredible games of football in 24 hours.

I've been indifferent to the CL for years now but the knockout stages this year have been amazing. I pity people who don't like football and don't experience moments like what Spurs fans just have.

[Sir David Gray]

Full time Spurs through!

[Scouse Hibee]

Not over yet, wait for the second half transformation :greengrin


:thumbsup:

[cabbageandribs1875]

go on spurs, win the thing now :agree:

[Lago]

Would you believe it

[SteveHFC]

Greatest night in spurs history.

[Hibs90]

Champs Leauge is over-rated though according to some.

What a great few games.

[hibby6270]

Unbelievable Jeff!!

Last night and tonight. Regardless of the teams involved, The best UCL semi finals - EVER!!

[DH1875]

Unbelievable. I'm not an Ajax fan and I don't know any Ajax fans but I'm genuinely gutted for them.

[One Day Soon]

Easily the two most exciting back to back games of football at this level - or any level - that I've ever seen.

Overjoyed for Spurs and totally gutted for Ajax.

[Hibs90]

Jenas is a proper prick though.

[Joe6-2]

Unbelievable. I'm not an Ajax fan and I don't know any Ajax fans but I'm genuinely gutted for them.

Me too

[Aldo]

WOW! Just WOW!


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[Fife-Hibee]

Both teams will fancy their chances in the final. What a game that's going to be.

[sambajustice]

3 incredible days on the spin for football. The man city game/goal on Monday in the context of the things was pretty amazing too!

[Scouse Hibee]

Every time Liverpool have won the CL they have defeated a team playing in white.

[SteveHFC]

3 incredible days on the spin for football. The man city game/goal on Monday in the context of the things was pretty amazing too!

And we have tomorrow night.

[Lago]

So an EPL final😀

[Pretty Boy]

Unbelievable. I'm not an Ajax fan and I don't know any Ajax fans but I'm genuinely gutted for them.

You can't help feel this was their chance. That team is going to get picked apart over the next couple of years and regardless of how many youngsters they have coming through that will take it's toll. I feel for their fans as, at a different level, we have seen a young team broken up too soon with a sense of what if.......

On the flip side I'm pleased for Spurs fans. They haven't exactly been overindulged with success in recent years and have had to deal with the bottle merchant tag for a while now.

[Hibeesmad]

Absolutely magical. Everybody ruled us out when we got Dortmund. Knocked out Man City. 3-0 down with 45 mins to play.

Pochettino is magic.

Tottenham Hotspur, see you in Madrid.

[NORTHERNHIBBY]

Really poor game management from Ajax. Totally Heartsed it.

[HibbySpurs]

Hoarse with shouting and tired now from running around the living room about 30 times 🤣🤣🤣

Can’t believe we just did that

GGTH

[Hibernia&Alba]

Incredible two nights of football. Hard to believe. Come on you Spurs in the final! :agree:



https://youtu.be/Vx-Lp3J-W2Q

[GreenLake]

So happy for my wife but I can't even imagine how much this is going to cost me for flights and tickets.

[Bishop Hibee]

Incredible finish. Llorente was absolutely unplayable and gave a master class in old fashioned ‘big number 9’ play when he came on. I thought Ajax were slightly the better team over the two legs but it’s fine margins. I know a few big Spurs fans, one of whom lives in Leith and is a big Hibby since he moved to Edinburgh. Pleased for them. Should be a good final.

[Hibbyradge]

Spurs getting taken by the cleaners.

Just saw this. :tee hee:

:top marks

[Cheshire Hibby]

The last two nights have shown why we all love football. The Champions League has been getting a bit predictable but no one can deny the drama and emotion served up in these two matches. Just loved both games.

[Bristolhibby]

So happy for my wife but I can't even imagine how much this is going to cost me for flights and tickets.

Return flights Easyjet from Bristol now sitting at £1222!

£1500 from Gatwick!

J

[Stevie Reid]

Champions League just keeps outdoing itself.

Superb tournament.

[Brummie_Hibs]

It's all set up for a drab 0-0 final with penalties deciding it.

[Since452]

Gutted for Ajax. A Barcelona v Ajax final would have been brilliant. Instead we have an EPL game. Boo.

[HH81]

Gutted for Ajax. A Barcelona v Ajax final would have been brilliant. Instead we have an EPL game. Boo.

Two best teams are in the final. Yep spurs goal was late on but doesn't matter when you score.

[Hibrandenburg]

Incredible chain of footballing events the last 2 days. Roy of the Rovers stuff.

[HibbySpurs]

Return flights Easyjet from Bristol now sitting at £1222!

£1500 from Gatwick!

J

£340 return from Edinburgh

[hibby6270]

Must admit I’m quite partial to an injury time goal to make the score 2-3.:greengrin

[BILLYHIBS]

Spurs getting taken by the cleaners.

And the award for 2019 post of the year goes to...

[G B Young]

I think that was UEFA trying to make it seem like a European Super League, which the big clubs were threatening, but keep some continuity with the old name, which was officially the European Champion Clubs' Cup although everyone here called it the European Cup (I still do).

Anyway, I think the format is pretty good now. The problem is the bias to the big leagues and self reinforcing advantage their clubs get.

And that old name made sense because the tournament was open only to clubs which were champions of their nation (I'm not forgetting by the way that Hibs weren't Scottish champions when we appeared in the first European Cup, but that inaugural tournament was invitational).

If Uefa are, as you say, trying to keep some continuity with that old name, then the correct name for today's version of the competition would be something like: The Champions (but mostly not champions) League (even though it's really a cup competition).

[JeMeSouviens]

Bring on the 7 footer and hoof it at him. Lolz. Some game though! I think it topped last night for drama?

[JeMeSouviens]

And that old name made sense because the tournament was open only to clubs which were champions of their nation (I'm not forgetting by the way that Hibs weren't Scottish champions when we appeared in the first European Cup, but that inaugural tournament was invitational).

If Uefa are, as you say, trying to keep some continuity with that old name, then the correct name for today's version of the competition would be something like: The Champions (but mostly not champions) League (even though it's really a cup competition).

Catchy! :wink:

[SHODAN]

I actually turned off the TV once Spurs headed wide from the corner because I thought the game was over. I'm a ****ing idiot.

[Benny Brazil]

COYS!!! ****ing brilliant!

[matty_f]

Two incredible games of football over the last two nights. What a great sport.

[G B Young]

It's a branding name. There is no need for any solution because there is no problem.

If it's a brand name the OFT should be looking into it as it's misleading and gives a false impression that the tournament is contested by champions when in fact we have two finalists this year in Liverpool and Spurs who have not won their national league title for around 30 years and 60 years respectively :wink:

[G B Young]

Catchy! :wink:

Yes, I thought it tripped off the tongue rather well :greengrin

[Scouse Hibee]

If it's a brand name the OFT should be looking into it as it's misleading and gives a false impression that the tournament is contested by champions when in fact we have two finalists this year in Liverpool and Spurs who have not won their national league title for around 30 years and 60 years respectively :wink:

Misleading folk since 1992, I think most have realised by now, don’t you?

[BigKev]

Has one of Poch’s sons not got a soft spot for us?

Happy for Spurs to get there. Starved of success in recent years.

Probably the most personable managers in the game as well in Klopp and Pochettino. Hoping for a Spurs win in a 6-5 cracker.

[PatHead]

And the award for 2019 post of the year goes to...

It was the cleanest joke of the year. 😁

To be fair they were at that time.

What a game and comeback.

[HoboHarry]

It was the cleanest joke of the year. 😁

To be fair they were at that time.

What a game and comeback.
You'd have to scour the internet to find a better one....

[GreenLake]

I'll be coming from LAX and those prices will translate exponentially. Glad to jump on board for the wife's trip for once! She backed me to that glorious final in 2016.

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[Stevie Reid]

I may well be wrong but I’m pretty sure that up until a couple of years ago, no team in the knockout stages had ever overturned a two goal deficit from the first leg.

That’s been blown out the water these last few years. Amazing stuff.

[hibsbollah]

Which win was more bonkers, Liverpool or Spurs?
A poll is needed.

[Sir David Gray]

Which win was more bonkers, Liverpool or Spurs?
A poll is needed.

Possibly Spurs.

They were playing away in the second leg after losing the home game. Their deficit was also added to in the second game and they came back to win that one in the last minute of added time.

Liverpool were at home and their deficit also wasn't added to in the second leg.

[iwasthere1972]

With the winner of the CL guaranteed to come from England, will fifth place in the EPL qualify for the CL albeit through the qualifiers?

[Scouse Hibee]

Possibly Spurs.

They were playing away in the second leg after losing the home game. Their deficit was also added to in the second game and they came back to win that one in the last minute of added time.

Liverpool were at home and their deficit also wasn't added to in the second leg.

As if you would say Liverpool 😂

[soupernashwan]

With the winner of the CL guaranteed to come from England, will fifth place in the EPL qualify for the CL albeit through the qualifiers?

Not sure but I think the Europa League also has a Champions League spot for the winner... So could it be 6 English clubs in the competition next season?

[Scouse Hibee]

Not sure but I think the Europa League also has a Champions League spot for the winner... So could it be 6 English clubs in the competition next season?

No the absolute maximum is 5 from one country.

[Michael]

With the winner of the CL guaranteed to come from England, will fifth place in the EPL qualify for the CL albeit through the qualifiers?

Nope, Austria gets the extra group place as they are 11th in coefficient ranking.

[The 90+2]

Has one of Poch’s sons not got a soft spot for us?

Happy for Spurs to get there. Starved of success in recent years.

Probably the most personable managers in the game as well in Klopp and Pochettino. Hoping for a Spurs win in a 6-5 cracker.

Yeah one of his sons supports us and I’m sure he was in goal when
Bordeaux pumped them at the PBS.

[Malthibby]

Looking forward to Farage tomorrow telling everyone that Johnny foreigner doesn't like it up'em.
A win for Brexit.
Didn't't mind 'Pool winning but would have watched Ajax v Barca; won't be watching the B final.

[Hibeesmad]

Spurs out

Never count your chickens before they hatch

[Hibeesmad]

Tottenham showing a few top 4 finishes and a new stadium that was a year behind schedule doesn't make you one of the big boys.

Finishing ahead of Arsenal for 3 consecutive years and reaching the Champions League final the same year they didn't even sign a player, beating Guardiola's 100 and 98 point champions along the way isn't a bad attempt.

[ben johnson]

Looking forward to Farage tomorrow telling everyone that Johnny foreigner doesn't like it up'em.
A win for Brexit.
Didn't't mind 'Pool winning but would have watched Ajax v Barca; won't be watching the B final.

Yet it was also workers from outside the UK who scored all the goals and made all the crucial saves.
Foreign workers rightly lauded by both supports
Not what a lot of people who voted Brexit would appreciate

[MWHIBBIES]

Finishing ahead of Arsenal for 3 consecutive years and reaching the Champions League final the same year they didn't even sign a player, beating Guardiola's 100 and 98 point champions along the way isn't a bad attempt.

Big boys win trophies. They gotta win it now or it's all talk.

[mjhibby]

Apparently poch has a net spend of £29m,klopp £93m and pep £450m. Whose the best manager. Klopp followed by poch for me.£450m spent and not even a semi of the champions League. Citeh will only win the pl due to their squad depth. I'd bloody hope so with that net spend.

[hibsbollah]

Apparently poch has a net spend of £29m,klopp £93m and pep £450m. Whose the best manager. Klopp followed by poch for me.£450m spent and not even a semi of the champions League. Citeh will only win the pl due to their squad depth. I'd bloody hope so with that net spend.

It's a good point; Pochettino bought no-one as we are always being told, but of course that's part of their strength, team spirit and chemistry. Wanyama and Trippier have both had poor seasons and players you would just never pick as first choice at this level of football. Llorente up front, a decent enough veteran, but missing Kane, missing Son last game, defenders getting moved around to fill in gaps.


And Liverpool without Salah and Firmino and up against Messi in great form desperate to make up for last season. just can't decide which comeback was the most ridiculous.

[Hibrandenburg]

Looking forward to Farage tomorrow telling everyone that Johnny foreigner doesn't like it up'em.
A win for Brexit.
Didn't't mind 'Pool winning but would have watched Ajax v Barca; won't be watching the B final.

If anything it's a strong indicator that immigration and the free movement of EU citizens is of great value to British business

[PatHead]

It's a good point; Pochettino bought no-one as we are always being told, but of course that's part of their strength, team spirit and chemistry. Wanyama and Trippier have both had poor seasons and players you would just never pick as first choice at this level of football. Llorente up front, a decent enough veteran, but missing Kane, missing Son last game, defenders getting moved around to fill in gaps.


And Liverpool without Salah and Firmino and up against Messi in great form desperate to make up for last season. just can't decide which comeback was the most ridiculous.
On the ridiculousometer they're both off the scale. I think Spurs just edge it with the injury time goal.

[ChooseLife]

Does this mean that the Premiership are guaranteed 5 champions League spots next year?, maybe 6 if it's an all English Europa League final?

Edit: just read earlier in this thread that the maximum is 5 from one League, where would the champions League spot for the Europa League winner go if it was a Chelsea Vs Arsenal final?

[JeMeSouviens]

Does this mean that the Premiership are guaranteed 5 champions League spots next year?, maybe 6 if it's an all English Europa League final?

Edit: just read earlier in this thread that the maximum is 5 from one League, where would the champions League spot for the Europa League winner go if it was a Chelsea Vs Arsenal final?

The only way England can get 5 teams is if Arsenal finish 5th and win the EL or Spurs finish 5th and win the CL.

[Onceinawhile]

Does this mean that the Premiership are guaranteed 5 champions League spots next year?, maybe 6 if it's an all English Europa League final?

Edit: just read earlier in this thread that the maximum is 5 from one League, where would the champions League spot for the Europa League winner go if it was a Chelsea Vs Arsenal final?

Arsenal if they win it, as Chelsea are already guaranteed it.

So:



Spurs V Liverpool - both currently in english top 4 so qualify by league position - no extra CL spot (unless Spurs tumble out of the top 4 on the last day and win the CL). 4 CL slots for England
Arsenal V Chelsea - Chelsea already qualified for CL, so them winning the EL - no extra CL spot - 4 CL slots for England
Arsenal v Chelsea - Arsenal win - and don't make the top 4 - extra CL spot for them - 5 Slots for England.


The "extra" spots will be reallocated to the leagues with the best coefficients.

[SeanWilson]

Possibly Spurs.

They were playing away in the second leg after losing the home game. Their deficit was also added to in the second game and they came back to win that one in the last minute of added time.

Liverpool were at home and their deficit also wasn't added to in the second leg.

Nah, Liverpool had to win a match against Barcelona by at least 3 goals without conceding to even get a chance of ET. Thats a far more miraculous result.

[OstKurve Hibs]

Klopp only spent 93 million ? He spent 170 million last summer window alone

[MagicSwirlingShip]

Klopp only spent 93 million ? He spent 170 million last summer window alone

Net spend is 93m i believe.

[OstKurve Hibs]

Net spend is 93m i believe.

so the rest is in add ons and what it could potentially rise to ?

[MWHIBBIES]

so the rest is in add ons and what it could potentially rise to ?

No, the rest is covered by sales.

[JeMeSouviens]

https://www.anfield-online.co.uk/stats/jurgen-klopp-lfc-transfer-signings.html

They made a big profit as well:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/47168032

[Hibeesmad]

Big boys win trophies. They gotta win it now or it's all talk.

Oh when the Spurs go marching on.

[Hibeesmad]

Both comebacks were inspirational in their own way. Liverpool without Salah and Firminho 3 goals down against Messi's Barcelona looked impossible.

Spurs were 3-0 down away to Ajax who knocked out Real Madrid & Juventus with only 45 minutes to play. Without Kane. Incredible.

[ChooseLife]

Arsenal if they win it, as Chelsea are already guaranteed it.

So:



Spurs V Liverpool - both currently in english top 4 so qualify by league position - no extra CL spot (unless Spurs tumble out of the top 4 on the last day and win the CL). 4 CL slots for England
Arsenal V Chelsea - Chelsea already qualified for CL, so them winning the EL - no extra CL spot - 4 CL slots for England
Arsenal v Chelsea - Arsenal win - and don't make the top 4 - extra CL spot for them - 5 Slots for England.


The "extra" spots will be reallocated to the leagues with the best coefficients.
Thanks for clearing that up mate

[MWHIBBIES]

Oh when the Spurs go marching on.

It's marching in :faf:

[Billy Whizz]

Conrad Logan in goals for Mansfield away at Newport in the play offs, 1st leg
Game live on sky

[Hermit Crab]

Lost commentary on the Arsenal game.

[The 90+2]

Conrad Logan in goals for Mansfield away at Newport in the play offs, 1st leg
Game live on sky

Mansfield ahead 1-0

[Hermit Crab]

1-0 Valencia (2-3)

[Hermit Crab]

Should be 2-0

[The 90+2]

Valencia look good Arsenal being Arsenal basically. They go two down they won’t have the guts to come back.

[Scouse Hibee]

1-1 vital away goal for the Gunners

[bringbackbenny]

What a finish,outside of the right peg

[Hermit Crab]

The most undeserved goal ever. 1-1

[Lago]

The most undeserved goal ever. 1-1
Ever? Really??

[mjh]

Mansfield ahead 1-0

Sky Commentator referring to Logans legendary status at Hibs after he pulls off remarkable save for Mansfield

[SouthMoroccoStu]

1-0 Chelsea

[The 90+2]

Sky Commentator referring to Logans legendary status at Hibs after he pulls off remarkable save for Mansfield

Not watching but delighted for the big man and the name check obviously:)

[Lago]

1-0 Chelsea
Another EPL final on the cards !

[SouthMoroccoStu]

Another EPL final on the cards !

And an all English super cup final

[Lago]

And an all English super cup final
Spot on, didn't spot that.

[Lancs Harp]

2-1 to Arsenal. Controlled this quite well after a dodgy start.

Other semi final 1-1 on the night and 2-2 on aggregate, nicely poised.

[Lancs Harp]

Valencia 2 Arsenal 2

[Hibby70]

Logan is having a stormer

[Hermit Crab]

Chelsea struggling a bit.

[Lancs Harp]

3-2 Arsenal.

Arsenals front two arechalk and cheese compared to their back line!!

[MWHIBBIES]

Arsenal are a brilliant counter attacking side. 2 strikers are absolutely excellent. Best team left in this tournament IMO

[Hermit Crab]

2-4.

[gaz1875]

Cracking 4th goal :top marks

[onlyonesauzee4]

Whittaker playing in a legends game for Norwich tonight... is he still at Hibs??

https://twitter.com/owaintjones17/status/1126583485655920640?s=21

[Lancs Harp]

Chelsea and Eintracht going into extra time

[Sylar]

Has there EVER been a situation where the finalists of the CL and the EL were all from the same country??

I know Chelsea aren't there yet, but even 3/4 finalists in the two competitions is quite an amazing feat.

[PatHead]

Has there EVER been a situation where the finalists of the CL and the EL were all from the same country??

I know Chelsea aren't there yet, but even 3/4 finalists in the two competitions is quite an amazing feat.

Enjoy it whilst you can, once Brexit takes effect none of the Jonny Foreigners will be allowed in!

[hibee_girl]

Has there EVER been a situation where the finalists of the CL and the EL were all from the same country??

I know Chelsea aren't there yet, but even 3/4 finalists in the two competitions is quite an amazing feat.

No, there hasn’t.

Gary Lineker just posted this on Twitter:

3 down, one to go. Congratulations to @Arsenal on making it through to the Europa League final. If @ChelseaFC make it too (it’s gone to extra-time), it will, of course, be the first time in the history of European football that one country has all 4 finalists.

[660]

Eintracht are a great club - hope they tuck away these twats

[Fife-Hibee]

"Controversal"

The goalie quite clearly had both hands on the ball. :faf:

[Deansy]

No, there hasn’t.

Gary Lineker just posted this on Twitter:

3 down, one to go. Congratulations to @Arsenal on making it through to the Europa League final. If @ChelseaFC make it too (it’s gone to extra-time), it will, of course, be the first time in the history of European football that one country has all 4 finalists.

If it happens I wonder how many players would actually come from that 'one country' as against those pesky foreign ones .................

[Hibbyradge]

"Controversal"

The goalie quite clearly had both hands on the ball. :faf:

He fumbled it twice.

[SteveHFC]

The atmosphere at Stamford bridge is shocking for a European semi-final.

[Fife-Hibee]

He fumbled it twice.

Caught it with both hands, only fumbles it after being elbowed by Azpilicueta who makes no initial contact with the ball.

Decision favours the goalkeeper every time.

[hibee_girl]

Chelsea win on penalties

[SteveHFC]

Hope Arsenal pump Chelsea in the final.

[Sylar]

Hats off to the English teams. Not only has the Premier League been sensational to watch this year, they've also completely dominated in Europe.

It's definitely been the best league in the world this year :agree:

[SteveHFC]

Wonder how both Manchester clubs feel right now :greengrin

[Joe6-2]

Hope Arsenal pump Chelsea in the final.

Me too

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

3 Finalists from one city, fair effort.

[Hibeesmad]

Two great finals. Arsenal v Chelsea before the big one in Madrid. Petr Cech's last game against his former club. Chelsea will beat Arsenal imo

[jgl07]

Wonder how both Manchester clubs feel right now :greengrin
United fans are feeling sick. Not only are they struggling but they have to support City in both the Premier League and the FA Cup.

They would never support Liverpool in anything least of all not the Premier League least they close on United for number of PL titles won.

Now United could face entry to the Europa League in the Second Qualifying Round on 25 July should City not win the FA Cup. United are supposed to be ending their Australia, Singapore, and China with a match against Tottenham in Shanghai that day. The second leg comes just before they are supposed to be playing Milan in Cardiff in another pre-season match.

City fans are happy as they have to beat Brighton and Watford to take an unprecedented domestic Treble (or Quadruple if you count the Community Shield).

[Smartie]

I'd imagine lifting the league Championship in a season that will go down in history as one of English football's most successful ever will be perfectly satisfactory for a club that scraped out of the third division against Gillingham 20 years ago.

[Hibeesmad]

United fans are feeling sick. Not only are they struggling but they have to support City in both the Premier League and the FA Cup.

They would never support Liverpool in anything least of all not the Premier League least they close on United for number of PL titles won.

Now United could face entry to the Europa League in the Second Qualifying Round on 25 July should City not win the FA Cup. United are supposed to be ending their Australia, Singapore, and China with a match against Tottenham in Shanghai that day. The second leg comes just before they are supposed to be playing Milan in Cardiff in another pre-season match.

City fans are happy as they have to beat Brighton and Watford to take an unprecedented domestic Treble (or Quadruple if you count the Community Shield).

Definitely. City be gutted they didn't get to the Champions League final but winning a potential domestic treble is a bigger achievement.

[Mibbes Aye]

Hats off to the English teams. Not only has the Premier League been sensational to watch this year, they've also completely dominated in Europe.

It's definitely been the best league in the world this year :agree:

The English top flight has been tremendous this season from the start to the end. It surely dampens the criticism from some that it was sterile.

[Since452]

Maybe the billions they get from Sky helps their progression in Europe. Cant think of anything more depressing than four teams from the same country playing in the two European finals.

[mjhibby]

Not sure if it's been mentioned but thought deli Ali played his best game for spurs for ages. Superbly intelligent runs and his lay off for the winner was just sublime. It's going to be some final and I've a feeling it will depend which lloris turns up.

[we are hibs]

Aberdeen hearts on BT at quarter to 8 in what could potentially be the worst football match in history.

[Iggy Pope]

Aberdeen hearts on BT at quarter to 8 in what could potentially be the worst football match in history.

:greengrin

[Golden Bear]

:greengrin

HFC Ladies Cup Final v Glasgow City is on Alba at 7.25. That's a much better bet.

[green day]

The BT guys still talking £7M for McKenna - am I the only one who thinks he is "ok" but no danger worth +£3M - hes had quite a few shockers, imo

[truehibernian]

The BT guys still talking £7M for McKenna - am I the only one who thinks he is "ok" but no danger worth +£3M - hes had quite a few shockers, imo

Absolutely, however if Scottish football is to really prosper we need to start getting real (honest) value (in today's markets) for our players compared to what other European leagues are getting for players. McGinn is already proving what an absolute bargain Villa got, so if we start getting big fees for players then we can really start investing in the game up here - assuming clubs spend and invest wisely once they get the money.

I've never rated John Souttar, yet he's apparently in the £4 million bracket. Bias aside, I have to agree that he is in that bracket when you see bang average players down south (who are no better than him) going for 6 or 7 million. And I don't think Souttar is any better than Paul Hanlon or Porteous. Souttar however, like McGinn, is being well advised and he may well earn that kind of move and fair play to him.

The huge problem Scottish football has is convincing young players that it's well worth staying in the SPFL and getting first team games and experience under their belt before chasing a big money '2 year contract'. Far too often good players up here don't do their 'apprenticeship' and end up drifting down leagues when they could have earned so much more, both financially and professionally. In short, many of our young talent put money before hard work and are short-term thinking.

If Aberdeen get that kind of money for him, fair play to them and to the player. Our league needs people who really promote and showcase talent, but ensure the league is a great breeding ground for talent. We won't get that with the likes of Neil Doncaster and Co at the helm who are too focused on 2 clubs at the expense of others.

[K-Zazu]

When is Naismith back or is he just gonna play in the final?

[Billy Whizz]

Need an Aberdeen win tonight, will mean we can’t get caught by Hearts

[green day]

Whatever happened to that big Czech lump of a striker Hearts bought?

Must be pish if he's not playing tonight.

[we are hibs]

Whatever happened to that big Czech lump of a striker Hearts bought?

Must be pish if he's not playing tonight.

Levein subbed him in his first start in the first half in a defeat to Dundee and called him a fat **** and he's not been seen since.


You have to admire this match in some ways. You will struggle to find 22 men who hate football as much as these guys.

[Hiber-nation]

Gavin Gunning (remember him) sent off for Forest Green. Boy always was a bit of a loose cannon.

[Stuart93]

Hearts are pish

[Hiber-nation]

Levein subbed him in his first start in the first half in a defeat to Dundee and called him a fat **** and he's not been seen since.


You have to admire this match in some ways. You will struggle to find 22 men who hate football as much as these guys.

Even worse than I thought it would be. Which is almost impossible.

[Iggy Pope]

Gavin Gunning (remember him) sent off for Forest Green. Boy always was a bit of a loose cannon.

Was that the fellah that picked the ball up and walked off the pitch? Or something.

[The 90+2]

Was that the fellah that picked the ball up and walked off the pitch? Or something.

Aye at Dundee Utd. Madman.

[green day]

Hearts are utter dug*****

[we are hibs]

Bobby Madden putting in another stunning refereeing performance

[Bostonhibby]

Whatever happened to that big Czech lump of a striker Hearts bought?

Must be pish if he's not playing tonight.Posted this in response to a similar question on the pm board[emoji6]

Turned out he was a basketball player, and would never score as many goals as the talisman so he's currently working in the school view lounge giving high shoulders to the corporate mugs so they can see the roof of the castle.


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[Hiber-nation]

Aye at Dundee Utd. Madman.

👍

[hfc rd]

30 mins in and Hearts not even had a shot yet.

16 new players they signed and they look just as bad as they did last season. Where on Earth is that title winning form in September?

[Greenfly]

0 - 0 HT in the big Cup Final. Glasgow started off much better but Hibs have come a lot more into the game and had plenty chances. Very even and entertaining game overall - Live on Alba if you've given up on Pitoddrie

[LithgaeHibby]

After the midweek total football CL games... we now have Hertz anti football. What utter p*sh - good luck to their fans having to watch that every week. Only problem is that the sheep can't string two passes together in the final third.

[BoomtownHibees]

Madden was happy to let that corner be retaken!!!

[NC1875]

Absolute dug sheet at Pittodrie

[K-Zazu]

Greg Stewart should have stayed at Kilmarnock

[Sean1875]

This Dons v Hearts game is one of the worst things that’s ever happened to me. How the **** did we not tuck this mob away good and proper a couple of weeks ago? Nonsense.


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[Hibs90]

That Wilson is an absolutely shocking football player. He is utter mince.

[SHODAN]

This Dons v Hearts game is one of the worst things that’s ever happened to me. How the **** did we not tuck this mob away good and proper a couple of weeks ago? Nonsense.


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Because they play differently against us.

[Billy Whizz]

What where the 400,000 Hearts are tonight, only 368 of them at the game

[Billy Whizz]

Greg Stewart should have stayed at Kilmarnock

He’s a mercenary

[percy veer]

What where the 400,000 Hearts are tonight, only 368 of them at the game

Tbf nothing game on a Friday night, look closer to home suddenly after defeat to rangers people punting tickets for the kilmarnock game because all off a sudden they cant make it

[Billy Whizz]

1-0 Dons

[04Sauzee]

Jamie Brandon isn't very good

[Ozyhibby]

1-0 Dons

Stays the same and we finish 5th.


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[Del Boy]

Very poor game but Aberdeen miles the better team

[Iggy Pope]

Tbf nothing game on a Friday night, look closer to home suddenly after defeat to rangers people punting tickets for the kilmarnock game because all off a sudden they cant make it

**** off with this.

[Callum7]

1-1

[Onceinawhile]

Hearts equalise.

[green day]

Listen to this craigan Erse waxing lyrical about Bobby burns. How hearts are level is astonishing. Aberdeen should be ashamed.

[Fife-Hibee]

Very Heartsy performance and goal. I'd be bothered if it wasn't against Aberdeen.

[SouthMoroccoStu]

What where the 400,000 Hearts are tonight, only 368 of them at the game

Boycott by the proud honourable supporters

[SouthMoroccoStu]

Hearts equalise.

Jammy defines their season

[we are hibs]

Both these sides are rotten. A joke we haven't beaten either at home this season.

[Lago]

Very poor game but Aberdeen miles the better team

It is absolutely garbage, but I suppose I've been spoiled by the CL games earlier in the week.

[percy veer]

**** off with this.

Can I ask why, or are you still looking for a buyer

[we are hibs]

Tbf nothing game on a Friday night, look closer to home suddenly after defeat to rangers people punting tickets for the kilmarnock game because all off a sudden they cant make it

The desperation of some on here to turn any negative about hearts into a negative about hibs is boring.

[Geo_1875]

Just seen on BBC website the yams have committed 19 fouls and received 2 yellow cards. How do they get away with it?

[Iggy Pope]

Can I ask why, or are you still looking for a buyer

You can ask. You wouldn’t fancy the answer much.

[Fife-Hibee]

Just seen on BBC website the yams have committed 19 fouls and received 2 yellow cards. How do they get away with it?

They're very tactical in the way they go about it. They hack in turns. By the time it gets back to the person who hacked first, the referee has forgetton all about their last foul.

[hibsbollah]

They're very tactical in the way they go about it. They hack in turns. By the time it gets back to the person who hacked first, the referee has forgetton all about their last foul.

Like Man City. The only way Guardiola and Levein are in any sense comparable.

[we are hibs]

Good finish. Is that Stewart not meant to be hun bound?

[percy veer]

You can ask. You wouldn’t fancy the answer much.

I would.. I hate and I mean hate hearts but live in the real world sorry my opinion differs from you.

[erin go bragh]

2-1 The Sheep :)

[Iggy Pope]

I would.. I hate and I mean hate hearts but live in the real world sorry my opinion differs from you.

That’s it though Percy. This isn’t the real world. And your opinion sucks. See?