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Power
31-05-2020, 05:01 PM
Fantastic update again KP, thanks.
Unsure if it's something you'd know or be able to communicate, but seeing as the deadline for asking for a refund on our 19/20 season tickets, do we have an idea on what the uptake numbers were and how much we're looking to pay back to supporters?
By the way, not judging anyone who did ask for a refund. Everyone has their own stuff going on.
Just hoping the club don't have to pay too much back in the way of refunds.
The club were great on refund solutions with supporters. It was a small percentage that did need that rightful return of monies last update I had (the club might not communicate the finer details but I can mention Hibs planned well for the situation).
JohnM1875
31-05-2020, 05:04 PM
The club were great on refund solutions with supporters. It was a small percentage that did need that rightful return of monies last update I had (the club might not communicate the finer details but I can mention Hibs planned well for the situation).
100%. In complete agreement the club were great in relation to refunds! As they have been on so many things recently.
Thanks for the reply and again for the update 👍
truehibernian
31-05-2020, 05:39 PM
The updates from KP are excellent - always appreciated :aok:
jeffers
31-05-2020, 08:00 PM
KP any update on face masks ? It would be good if we could be the first Scottish club to officially release them.
Power
31-05-2020, 08:08 PM
KP any update on face masks ? It would be good if we could be the first Scottish club to officially release them.
Good question, No specific timelines other than it’s imminent. We won’t be first, I’ve seen a small number of clubs release options (Dundee United is one that sticks in the mind).
04Sauzee
31-05-2020, 08:19 PM
Good question, No specific timelines other than it’s imminent. We won’t be first, I’ve seen a small number of clubs release options (Dundee United is one that sticks in the mind).
Yip seen Dundee Utd were definitely selling them a couple of weeks ago.
theonlywayisup
31-05-2020, 09:50 PM
I echo the comments of those above, well done KP for keeping us informed during this difficult time for all.
I hope you and your family are well.
GreenCastle
31-05-2020, 09:55 PM
Thanks for update.
Is there any way you can get an update about the stadium. We were promised improvements with sound system / advertising boards / big screen.
Are there plans for this to still happen - whenever we are allowed back in ?
jeffers
31-05-2020, 10:14 PM
Good question, No specific timelines other than it’s imminent. We won’t be first, I’ve seen a small number of clubs release options (Dundee United is one that sticks in the mind).
Cheers. I didn’t realise Dundee Utd had already brought some out.
Power
31-05-2020, 10:19 PM
Thanks for update.
Is there any way you can get an update about the stadium. We were promised improvements with sound system / advertising boards / big screen.
Are there plans for this to still happen - whenever we are allowed back in ?
Good question, those projects have been impacted by the coronavirus effect so a short term pause likely. They’re important projects so will be picked up in the future - Separate call out for the sound system - this was close to completion so should be ready to go when we return.
Power
01-06-2020, 03:30 PM
KP any update on face masks ? It would be good if we could be the first Scottish club to officially release them.
https://www.hiberniandirect.co.uk//accessories/general-accessories/hfc-tartan-face-covering-pre-order
Further options should be added I believe.
Robbo6-2
01-06-2020, 07:14 PM
Any news on how many fans asked for a refund from last season tickets?
CMurdoch
01-06-2020, 11:48 PM
KP, thanks for the updates and all your efforts on our behalf
jeffers
02-06-2020, 08:40 AM
https://www.hiberniandirect.co.uk//accessories/general-accessories/hfc-tartan-face-covering-pre-order
Further options should be added I believe.
Thanks for this, sold out already I see.
Iggy Pope
02-06-2020, 05:49 PM
Thanks for this, sold out already I see.
Status is In Stock I think.
Power
02-06-2020, 09:47 PM
Any news on how many fans asked for a refund from last season tickets?
Good question, up to the club if they want to release that information.
Mentioned higher up the thread they were great on refund solutions with supporters. It was a small percentage that did need that rightful return of monies last update I had.
I can mention Hibs planned well for the situation.
green day
03-06-2020, 03:30 PM
KP, I trust you are taking note of what people are saying about this 5 year temporary nonsense Doncaster has just come up with to save Hearts.
Utter nonsense and I sincerely hope that Hibs see this for what it is.
Phil MaGlass
03-06-2020, 03:54 PM
KP, the wife just asked if there´s any plans for the pink womens tartan to be used for masks?
Greenworld
03-06-2020, 04:08 PM
Raging with the news of 5 year 14 club offer ..
This Stinks to High heaven if this goes through scottish football is over
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Power
04-06-2020, 08:20 AM
KP, I trust you are taking note of what people are saying about this 5 year temporary nonsense Doncaster has just come up with to save Hearts.
Utter nonsense and I sincerely hope that Hibs see this for what it is.
Raging with the news of 5 year 14 club offer ..
This Stinks to High heaven if this goes through scottish football is over
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This has been going on for a while, too long (a stronger governing body should’ve considered a time limit on this discussion). Club is more than aware of feelings and feedback from Hibs fans.
KP, the wife just asked if there´s any plans for the pink womens tartan to be used for masks?
Ah, I’m not sure what the other possible versions look like - a standard green might be in there but a pink tartan one (even purple) would be a very different option.
oneone73
04-06-2020, 08:42 AM
@Power: A thought for whenever fans are allowed back into ER. We will all know good Hibs fans who have lost their lives in the last 11 weeks. Who knows how many more by the time we are back. Can the club arrange some way of remembering them, maybe in the programme and/or a minute's silence?
Carheenlea
04-06-2020, 08:51 AM
Good question, up to the club if they want to release that information.
Mentioned higher up the thread they were great on refund solutions with supporters. It was a small percentage that did need that rightful return of monies last update I had.
I can mention Hibs planned well for the situation.
I would rather those details were kept private. Refund those who took up the offer to do so, and do so without feeling the need to justify and explain reasons to everyone why they did.
As for the club`s position on the reconstruction farce, I`d hope the original stance that the club took and the reasons given for doing so has been further strengthened.
The problem we have here is Hearts - a decision to reject the reconstruction proposals will immediately be looked upon by media and others in Scottish Football as simply a vote against our rivals first and foremost before the proposal, which puts us in an awkward situation. Thankfully Hibs have acted impeccably during this crisis and have kept their dignity intact by not getting embroiled in petty squabbles via the medium of multiple statements. A rejection of the proposal will surely be for the same reasons as before. Get it binned and lets move towards preparing for the 20/21 season which could be the most challenging season of all. League reconstruction starting immediately does nothing to ease those challenges that will be faced.
nonshinyfinish
04-06-2020, 09:25 AM
@Power: A thought for whenever fans are allowed back into ER. We will all know good Hibs fans who have lost their lives in the last 11 weeks. Who knows how many more by the time we are back. Can the club arrange some way of remembering them, maybe in the programme and/or a minute's silence?
I'd expect minute's silences will happen across the league – in the first round of games when the Bundesliga restarted there was a silence for victims of Covid.
Agree it would be good if Hibs can do something else specific to Hibs fans who have died.
Power
04-06-2020, 09:34 AM
@Power: A thought for whenever fans are allowed back into ER. We will all know good Hibs fans who have lost their lives in the last 11 weeks. Who knows how many more by the time we are back. Can the club arrange some way of remembering them, maybe in the programme and/or a minute's silence?
I'd expect minute's silences will happen across the league – in the first round of games when the Bundesliga restarted there was a silence for victims of Covid.
Agree it would be good if Hibs can do something else specific to Hibs fans who have died.
Will pass it on for consideration ✅
I would rather those details were kept private. Refund those who took up the offer to do so, and do so without feeling the need to justify and explain reasons to everyone why they did.
As for the club`s position on the reconstruction farce, I`d hope the original stance that the club took and the reasons given for doing so has been further strengthened.
The problem we have here is Hearts - a decision to reject the reconstruction proposals will immediately be looked upon by media and others in Scottish Football as simply a vote against our rivals first and foremost before the proposal, which puts us in an awkward situation. Thankfully Hibs have acted impeccably during this crisis and have kept their dignity intact by not getting embroiled in petty squabbles via the medium of multiple statements. A rejection of the proposal will surely be for the same reasons as before. Get it binned and lets move towards preparing for the 20/21 season which could be the most challenging season of all. League reconstruction starting immediately does nothing to ease those challenges that will be faced.
Appreciate the message ✅
Sir David Gray
04-06-2020, 10:02 AM
I'd expect minute's silences will happen across the league – in the first round of games when the Bundesliga restarted there was a silence for victims of Covid.
Agree it would be good if Hibs can do something else specific to Hibs fans who have died.
Yes totally agree, I just hope it's a silence rather than an applause that takes place. We should leave the applause for the NHS workers that we're going to be welcoming to our games.
BILLYHIBS
04-06-2020, 12:15 PM
I would rather those details were kept private. Refund those who took up the offer to do so, and do so without feeling the need to justify and explain reasons to everyone why they did.
As for the club`s position on the reconstruction farce, I`d hope the original stance that the club took and the reasons given for doing so has been further strengthened.
The problem we have here is Hearts - a decision to reject the reconstruction proposals will immediately be looked upon by media and others in Scottish Football as simply a vote against our rivals first and foremost before the proposal, which puts us in an awkward situation. Thankfully Hibs have acted impeccably during this crisis and have kept their dignity intact by not getting embroiled in petty squabbles via the medium of multiple statements. A rejection of the proposal will surely be for the same reasons as before. Get it binned and lets move towards preparing for the 20/21 season which could be the most challenging season of all. League reconstruction starting immediately does nothing to ease those challenges that will be faced.
:top marks
Speedway
04-06-2020, 12:22 PM
Raging with the news of 5 year 14 club offer ..
This Stinks to High heaven if this goes through scottish football is over
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How many decades have we been saying that for, yet here it still is.
Power
01-07-2020, 09:09 AM
Morning all,
Life is still uncertain, stressful and pressurised in parts, so I hope you’re still good at your end. Here if I can help with anything (
[email protected]). Fixtures out imminently (end of this week would be ideal), all focus on Hibernian being back.
http://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/news/10650
On the 15th June, the club updated supporters that they will be entering into consultation with staff and making difficult choices to reduce costs to protect the future of Hibernian. There has been a lot of good conversations and wise words used around the Hibs supporter landscape since that communication surrounding the point of why. The club is honest with where it is - tackling the difficult decisions and discussions in an honest, compassionate and supportive way with all concerned.
These preventative measures and decisions are to make sure Hibs are present and strong when coming out the other side of this.
Everyone is doing their bit:
The staff (I’m amazed with the energy every employee has to get up and go again in normal times, never mind these unprecedented ones)
The players (Showing solidarity with staff and supporters)
The supporters (with our magnificent understanding and backing)
At these times, the staff need our encouragement as much as our players do. Keep them in mind.
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Great to hear from Ron and Leeann in various internal and external interviews recently –
http://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/news/10652
https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/hibs-wary-cost-hearts-legal-action-insist-they-will-survive-2894555
https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/hibs-season-ticket-holders-will-get-priority-over-away-fans-2894567
https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/leeann-dempster-hibs-are-not-binning-their-youth-academy-2894558
https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/hibs-chief-leeann-dempster-responds-report-linking-her-hearts-2894565
Ron celebrates 1 year with us today exactly. Despite the world changing as we know it and pausing a lot of the AGM plans, he is still proud and feels blessed to own Hibernian. Let's see what the future brings.
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https://www.hibeesbounce.com/attachments/59d1c365-522d-46b2-8155-0c57e52e2329-jpeg.2862/
9,000 Season Tickets have been sold. The club understood how important the deadlines (Early Bird, Seat Release and Finance) were in these times and have extended the dates twice. The new deadline of this Friday at 5pm (3rd July) is approaching fast.
Club call out – ‘Whether it’s on an upgraded Hibs TV service or back in your seat when the time’s right, you won’t miss a kick of the ball at Easter Road with a season ticket’.
Season ticket package and virtual season ticket
The club is putting a lot of work into making sure the virtual offering to us is unique and not what we have experienced before. More to come on this. Still a lot to be worked out by all clubs and stakeholders.
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I would like to update you on a number of key areas that I’ve flagged recently with the club on behalf of supporters.
Looking after supporters
Make every effort to look after all types of Hibs fan when football returns. Season Ticket holders (providing value for Season Ticket purchases) and regular supporters (Our walk-up fans are still thought of until we’re back at Easter Road).
Working Together – Club and Hibernian Supporters Limited
Last summer, I highlighted sizeable numbers in our support want Hibernian Supporters (HSL) to be a success - Club and HSL to work together. This message has not changed.
KP - It’s great to see the partnership strengthen recently - Both club and HSL on the same page - the excellent engagement and communication is much appreciated by all.
Power
01-07-2020, 09:11 AM
Join Hibernian Supporters
https://hiberniansupporters.co.uk/
The fan-led drive to make our club as strong can be via Hibernian Supporters in these uncertain times is inspirational. 700 new/renewed donators is outstanding. Leeann and Hibernian Supporters have both confirmed donations will be directed to the play budget. As our voice and eyes in the boardroom, I can confirm the additional funds donated will help the team and on the pitch.
I wouldn’t underestimate the power and difference contributing small spare change regularly to Hibernian Supporters. It’s easy and flexible to donate through the continuously improving website and I would encourage HSL to be at the front of mind, along with other great initiatives, when you make goodwill donations.
https://www.edinburghlive.co.uk/sport/football/hibs-news-hsl-leeann-dempster-18488348
Leeann Dempster - "Because this is a unified message that things are difficult just now and difficult for your club, what we are seeing is a grassroots movement over the course of the last week. As of Tuesday night, HSL has had over 700 new members in just five or six days which is, in terms of where we have been, is tremendous. We are now doing what we can to help HSL because we are all now firmly on the same page, helping the club through this period."
https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/hibs-fans-group-hsl-encourage-more-pledgers-leeann-dempster-confirms-donations-will-go-towards-player-budget-2899899
Jim Adie -
"In turn, she can say to Jack Ross, 'remember I said to you it's one in, one out, well actually I've got £150,000 extra in my budget, so that guy you've had your eye on, phone his agent'.
"The sense of urgency is now because the market is effectively open. It's not going to be a lot of help if it takes us until November to add on an extra 1000 members, because the window will have closed.
KP - We can all play a part in making this a success. Keep doing what you do.
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Reconstruction
The focus of the summer for the club has always been about football returning and future of Hibs – not getting caught up on drama going on elsewhere. If there is the right time in the future to make innovative, exciting and long-lasting change I’m sure we’ll be at the front of it.
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Hibernian Community Foundation - If you know your history
Our charity arm has been running weekly calls with former players - Tommy McIntyre, Tam McManus, Keith Wright and Rob Jones to date – and more to come. These hour long sessions are an outstanding insight into our former heroes careers and time at Hibs and I would encourage you to give future sessions a consideration – Beuzelin next up.
https://www.hiberniancommunityfoundation.org.uk/Event/if-you-know-your-history-an-evening-with-guillaume-beuzelin
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Club call outs this month.
First-team training return
http://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/news/10651
Pre-Season – Week one
http://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/news/10653
KP - contact training started this week (Monday 29th) for players – they will now be familiar with the new bio-secure environment and protocols and we’ll see and hear more from them up at HTC soon now that they have settled in.
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The Vast East Terrace. I thought I had it bad at the back of the current East Terrace in row JJ. https://twitter.com/terraceimages/status/1277545647584010244?s=21 (https://twitter.com/terraceimages/status/1277545647584010244?s=21%5b/URL)
Loved this. Bottom left is my Easter Road. https://twitter.com/hibernianretro/status/1277498817139654656?s=21 (https://twitter.com/hibernianretro/status/1277498817139654656?s=21[/URL])
Kevin Harper was a hero of mine growing up. I’m with Kevin all the way. https://twitter.com/kevharps7/status/1273708607910092805?s=21 (https://twitter.com/kevharps7/status/1273708607910092805?s=21[/URL])
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Hibernian Community Foundation Amazon donations
AmazonSmile is a website operated by Amazon with the same products, prices and shopping features as Amazon.com. The difference is that when you shop on AmazonSmile, the AmazonSmile Foundation will donate 0.5% of the purchase price of eligible products to the charitable organisazation of your choice.
Hibernian Community Foundation can be found on smile.amazon.co.uk (http://smile.amazon.co.uk/)
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Leith Links donation surge
The total is now over 90 Kicks for Kids Season tickets purchased (91 at time of writing). One donation of over £400 one day last week. Hope Hibernian luck follows that person everywhere they go.
https://leithlinks4kids.com (https://leithlinks4kids.com/)
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This is what it feels like to be Hibs.
https://www.hibeesbounce.com/attachments/805a71a6-3c33-47ea-8094-1418776708e5-jpeg.2864/
Power
01-07-2020, 09:17 AM
Update in full read view can be found here - https://tinyurl.com/y7cfvyge
Past 2020 updates can be found here https://kieranpower858.wixsite.com/kpupdate-1/home/
Shout if I can help with anything
Speedway
01-07-2020, 09:26 AM
Another superb update. Thank you KP.
Danderhall Hibs
01-07-2020, 09:30 AM
Another superb update. Thank you KP.
:agree: I hope you stay in this role for a while KP.
JohnMcM
01-07-2020, 09:39 AM
Thanks KP. Job well done.
Since452
01-07-2020, 09:49 AM
Good update 👍
Bobby's Cinema
18-07-2020, 09:58 AM
KP - Any update on pay as you go TV options available for non- ST holders. Can you confirm this option will be available? Getting close now
Itsnoteasy
18-07-2020, 05:48 PM
KP - Any update on pay as you go TV options available for non- ST holders. Can you confirm this option will be available? Getting close now
Get yourself IPTV
KP - Any update on pay as you go TV options available for non- ST holders. Can you confirm this option will be available? Getting close now
Thought already said non season ticket holders won't be able to buy the games?
Speedway
18-07-2020, 06:19 PM
Thought already said non season ticket holders won't be able to buy the games?
That’s what I understood. Audio only.
B.H.F.C
18-07-2020, 06:59 PM
Thought already said non season ticket holders won't be able to buy the games?
Report last week (or week before) suggested Sky won’t have any issue with clubs selling individual games, as long as they’re not showing them.
Power
18-07-2020, 07:06 PM
KP - Any update on pay as you go TV options available for non- ST holders. Can you confirm this option will be available? Getting close now
No answer passed to me but I’ll ask the question again, following on from the above. I know all clubs are working to the wire with the same technical provider, Stream Digital, on their offerings. Standard Hibs TV subscription will be available minimum (UK audio and usual overseas feed).
Bobby's Cinema
18-07-2020, 07:40 PM
No answer passed to me but I’ll ask the question again, following on from the above. I know all clubs are working to the wire with the same technical provider, Stream Digital, on their offerings. Standard Hibs TV subscription will be available minimum (UK audio and usual overseas feed).
Thanks for responding :aok:
Can understand clubs maybe not wanting to scream this option from the rooftops if it is available to maximise ST sales.
But if its NOT available there are going to be a lot of disappointed fans if those that can't afford full ST prices (outright or payment plan) can't watch their team when they want.
Baldy Foghorn
18-07-2020, 08:18 PM
Two weeks until kick-off.
No confirmation from Hibs as to what is happening for home games, no testing done. Everyone trying to watch a stream, doesn't fill me with confidence, without at least a trial run.
You would also think for away games, the home team, could sell away fans a day package to watch the game, is it difficult to do, anyone know?
Sir David Gray
18-07-2020, 08:49 PM
Two weeks until kick-off.
No confirmation from Hibs as to what is happening for home games, no testing done. Everyone trying to watch a stream, doesn't fill me with confidence, without at least a trial run.
You would also think for away games, the home team, could sell away fans a day package to watch the game, is it difficult to do, anyone know?
I was certainly hopeful to begin with that away fans would be able to pay a one off amount to the home club to watch non-Sky games.
Not so much now.
Baldy Foghorn
18-07-2020, 08:53 PM
I was certainly hopeful to begin with that away fans would be able to pay a one off amount to the home club to watch non-Sky games.
Not so much now.
Find it strange we can't get to see away games.
B.H.F.C
18-07-2020, 08:54 PM
I was certainly hopeful to begin with that away fans would be able to pay a one off amount to the home club to watch non-Sky games.
Not so much now.
Report a couple of weeks back suggested Sky have no objection to one off games being sold, as long as they aren’t showing it. I don’t think it’ll be an issue. There isn’t any reason not to IMO.
Sir David Gray
18-07-2020, 09:55 PM
Report a couple of weeks back suggested Sky have no objection to one off games being sold, as long as they aren’t showing it. I don’t think it’ll be an issue. There isn’t any reason not to IMO.
There isn't any obvious reason, no.
It just seems to have gone quiet though.
Baldy Foghorn
18-07-2020, 09:57 PM
There isn't any obvious reason, no.
It just seems to have gone quiet though.
That's my concern
tamig
18-07-2020, 10:10 PM
That's my concern
You always seem to have some kind of concern.
Baldy Foghorn
18-07-2020, 11:16 PM
You always seem to have some kind of concern.
Is that right?
The 90+2
18-07-2020, 11:25 PM
That's my concern
It’s one of these things where as a season ticket holder I don’t want to rip the arse out of iptv B but it’s looking that way now|. It should be simple but as usual it just seems like a chore when the club should be making or in discussions with other clubs on how to make money. Kenny is a top guy but it’s time for him to take the lead over this and not depend on Kieran, that’s a different issue though.
edinburghhibee
19-07-2020, 12:25 AM
Sure I heard on sky news 4 of our first 6 games are on sky. Might not have heard correctly tho
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B.H.F.C
19-07-2020, 08:08 AM
Sure I heard on sky news 4 of our first 6 games are on sky. Might not have heard correctly tho
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You heard correct. First two aren’t. Four straight games after that are.
Power
19-07-2020, 08:16 AM
Two weeks until kick-off.
No confirmation from Hibs as to what is happening for home games, no testing done. Everyone trying to watch a stream, doesn't fill me with confidence, without at least a trial run.
You would also think for away games, the home team, could sell away fans a day package to watch the game, is it difficult to do, anyone know?
Fair shout B. Hibs should be in a position to provide more details about what the Hibs TV coverage looks like this week. Making sure the stream can cope with increased demand is a priority for the host company - Stream Digital is the technical provider for 11/12 clubs, they’ll understand how important that is for all clubs.
It’s one of these things where as a season ticket holder I don’t want to rip the arse out of iptv B but it’s looking that way now|. It should be simple but as usual it just seems like a chore when the club should be making or in discussions with other clubs on how to make money. Kenny is a top guy but it’s time for him to take the lead over this and not depend on Kieran, that’s a different issue though.
I’ll take the responsibility here.
In fairness R, there isn’t a lot the club can say in terms of firm update - they’re are still discussing the technicalities between the clubs and working flat out with each external stakeholder to bring it together (the multiple components that bring the visual workflow blows my mind a little). This may be a late decision.
Sure I heard on sky news 4 of our first 6 games are on sky. Might not have heard correctly tho
Think this is right, which would mean only viewable on Season Ticket online package and Sky sports.
Straightforward ask of - it’s simple to access and the coverage is high quality for Supporters - but I know the Club Communications and Marketing teams want to go that extra step further for us.
I’ll tap back in here if I get more information. ✅
lucky
19-07-2020, 08:27 AM
If Hibs or other premiership clubs don’t make games available on game by game basis then fans will share illegal links and it’s certainty that pubs will show games. It can’t be that difficult to arrange, Amazon have done it already for EPL games and I’m sure a lot more people were watching than will be for Scottish premiership matches.
Hibs90
19-07-2020, 08:33 AM
If Hibs or other premiership clubs don’t make games available on game by game basis then fans will share illegal links and it’s certainty that pubs will show games. It can’t be that difficult to arrange, Amazon have done it already for EPL games and I’m sure a lot more people were watching than will be for Scottish premiership matches.
It'll come down to cost ultimately.
I don't see why away games or those who don't have STs can't watch on a pay per game basis. Limit the number available and job done.
Beefster
19-07-2020, 08:51 AM
If Hibs or other premiership clubs don’t make games available on game by game basis then fans will share illegal links and it’s certainty that pubs will show games. It can’t be that difficult to arrange, Amazon have done it already for EPL games and I’m sure a lot more people were watching than will be for Scottish premiership matches.
I can’t really believe that you think it’s fair to compare Amazon’s software and billing resources to anything available to Scottish Premiership clubs tbh.
JimBHibees
19-07-2020, 08:55 AM
Find it strange we can't get to see away games.
Surely an excellent opportunity for clubs to raise some revenue for non Sky games would be amazed if this wasn't offered technology allowing.
EdinMike
19-07-2020, 09:09 AM
I can’t really believe that you think it’s fair to compare Amazon’s software and billing resources to anything available to Scottish Premiership clubs tbh.
Jeff Bezos is worth $171 billion. Ron Gordon... ?
Baldy Foghorn
19-07-2020, 09:10 AM
Surely an excellent opportunity for clubs to raise some revenue for non Sky games would be amazed if this wasn't offered technology allowing.
I hope so Jim
Baldy Foghorn
19-07-2020, 09:14 AM
Did RG not make his career from TV and media? Am I being too simplistic thinking it should be easier with his background to negotiate a deal?
lucky
19-07-2020, 09:15 AM
I can’t really believe that you think it’s fair to compare Amazon’s software and billing resources to anything available to Scottish Premiership clubs tbh.
I’m not but the facility is available. If they don’t or can’t do it then come out and tell the fans. They could have also approached amazon to see if they were interested. Scottish football has an attitude of cant and won’t rather than can and will.
Eyrie
19-07-2020, 09:19 AM
Jeff Bezos is worth $171 billion. Ron Gordon... ?
We got taken over by the wrong guy! Petrie! :grr:
Peevemor
19-07-2020, 10:20 AM
Did RG not make his career from TV and media? Am I being too simplistic thinking it should be easier with his background to negotiate a deal?I don't think he was involved in PPV streaming stuff. Also being on a different continent will shift the goalposts considerably.
The 90+2
19-07-2020, 10:24 AM
Fair shout B. Hibs should be in a position to provide more details about what the Hibs TV coverage looks like this week. Making sure the stream can cope with increased demand is a priority for the host company - Stream Digital is the technical provider for 11/12 clubs, they’ll understand how important that is for all clubs.
I’ll take the responsibility here.
In fairness R, there isn’t a lot the club can say in terms of firm update - they’re are still discussing the technicalities between the clubs and working flat out with each external stakeholder to bring it together (the multiple components that bring the visual workflow blows my mind a little). This may be a late decision.
Think this is right, which would mean only viewable on Season Ticket online package and Sky sports.
Straightforward ask of - it’s simple to access and the coverage is high quality for Supporters - but I know the Club Communications and Marketing teams want to go that extra step further for us.
I’ll tap back in here if I get more information. ✅
Thanks mate. It’s appreciated 👍 hope all is well with you and yours.
Ozyhibby
19-07-2020, 10:29 AM
I’m not but the facility is available. If they don’t or can’t do it then come out and tell the fans. They could have also approached amazon to see if they were interested. Scottish football has an attitude of cant and won’t rather than can and will.
We need to work with SKY as they are the rights holders. Amazon is a competitor.
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Baldy Foghorn
19-07-2020, 12:00 PM
I don't think he was involved in PPV streaming stuff. Also being on a different continent will shift the goalposts considerably.
Cheers
Baldy Foghorn
19-07-2020, 12:01 PM
We need to work with SKY as they are the rights holders. Amazon is a competitor.
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Every game during this pandemic should be available for all fans to watch.
RyeSloan
19-07-2020, 12:12 PM
Every game during this pandemic should be available for all fans to watch.
Easy to say but certainly not as easy to do as some are suggesting.
Also if someone pays for something I’d think they would be looking for a bit more quality than a periscope feed.
JimBHibees
19-07-2020, 12:36 PM
Easy to say but certainly not as easy to do as some are suggesting.
Also if someone pays for something I’d think they would be looking for a bit more quality than a periscope feed.
Do not all clubs have their own tv facilities? Assume the only issue would be the numbers able to watch.
Ozyhibby
19-07-2020, 12:49 PM
Do not all clubs have their own tv facilities? Assume the only issue would be the numbers able to watch.
No. Sky has paid for exclusive rights to show games in the UK. They are not going to just let clubs show all the games as well otherwise where is the incentive to sign up for Sky?
They have come to a deal where clubs can show no SKY games to season ticket holders. It seems perfectly fair to me.
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JimBHibees
19-07-2020, 01:06 PM
No. Sky has paid for exclusive rights to show games in the UK. They are not going to just let clubs show all the games as well otherwise where is the incentive to sign up for Sky?
They have come to a deal where clubs can show no SKY games to season ticket holders. It seems perfectly fair to me.
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I meant non sky games of course to non season ticket holders of away teams at a cost
Iggy Pope
19-07-2020, 01:08 PM
KP. First world problem I suppose but do you know if the club are planning on producing match programmes for the closed door games? English clubs (some of them) seem to be doing it.
04Sauzee
19-07-2020, 01:16 PM
KP. First world problem I suppose but do you know if the club are planning on producing match programmes for the closed door games? English clubs (some of them) seem to be doing it.
Think as a season ticket holder we definitely get a digital copy not sure if there will be printed versions? It's a good question
Ozyhibby
19-07-2020, 01:18 PM
I meant non sky games of course to non season ticket holders of away teams at a cost
Sky’s rights are exclusive. You can’t just show games that Sky are not covering on another platform. If Sky don’t show it, nobody does.
As it is, they are allowing clubs to show to season ticket holders while the lockout continues but that is it.
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StevieC
19-07-2020, 02:53 PM
No answer passed to me but I’ll ask the question again, following on from the above. I know all clubs are working to the wire with the same technical provider, Stream Digital, on their offerings. Standard Hibs TV subscription will be available minimum (UK audio and usual overseas feed).
KP,
For English Premiership games season ticket holders have been given “match passes” for SKY or BT televised games for their remaining home matches.
I’m assuming that this was negotiated by the clubs on behalf of supporters with season tickets, any idea if the clubs are looking into a similar arrangement for Scottish games?
JimBHibees
19-07-2020, 02:57 PM
Sky’s rights are exclusive. You can’t just show games that Sky are not covering on another platform. If Sky don’t show it, nobody does.
As it is, they are allowing clubs to show to season ticket holders while the lockout continues but that is it.
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Aee they allowing away team season ticket holders to see non Sky games? E.g Kilmarnock season tickets holders in first game at ER
davhibby
19-07-2020, 03:07 PM
No. Sky has paid for exclusive rights to show games in the UK. They are not going to just let clubs show all the games as well otherwise where is the incentive to sign up for Sky?
They have come to a deal where clubs can show no SKY games to season ticket holders. It seems perfectly fair to me.
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Season ticket holders get access to all home games regardless of whether sky are showing them.
I’d be very surprised if ppv isn’t available to anyone for games not on sky and that’s what’s been reported in the press
The 90+2
19-07-2020, 03:10 PM
Aee they allowing away team season ticket holders to see non Sky games? E.g Kilmarnock season tickets holders in first game at ER
No.
The 90+2
19-07-2020, 03:11 PM
Season ticket holders get access to all home games regardless of whether sky are showing them.
I’d be very surprised if ppv isn’t available to anyone for games not on sky and that’s what’s been reported in the press
Should def be on ppv but maybe there facilities aren’t there to match demand.
Power
19-07-2020, 03:46 PM
KP. First world problem I suppose but do you know if the club are planning on producing match programmes for the closed door games? English clubs (some of them) seem to be doing it.
Season Ticket holders will receive a free digital matchday programme, via email, for our league matches (nothing produced for the bounce games with the other SPL teams recently given the format of the game). I don’t think there will be a an official print run for the free digital ones, might just need to be an old skool paper and printer 🖨 job.
KP,
For English Premiership games season ticket holders have been given “match passes” for SKY or BT televised games for their remaining home matches.
I’m assuming that this was negotiated by the clubs on behalf of supporters with season tickets, any idea if the clubs are looking into a similar arrangement for Scottish games?
I don’t think so - No that I’ve heard, or seen on any of the detail I get Stevie. Season Ticket holders will be covered for all games, even those chosen and shown on Sky, through Hibs TV. Each game on Hibs TV will be produced to high quality event coverage standard - with tailored matchday programme before kick off and anslysis after the game too.
The 90+2
19-07-2020, 03:54 PM
Season Ticket holders will receive a free digital matchday programme, via email, for our league matches (nothing produced for the bounce games with the other SPL teams recently given the format of the game). I don’t think there will be a an official print run for the free digital ones, might just need to be an old skool paper and printer 🖨 job.
I don’t think so - No that I’ve heard, or seen on any of the detail I get Stevie. Season Ticket holders will be covered for all games, even those chosen and shown on Sky, through Hibs TV. Each game on Hibs TV will be produced to high quality event coverage standard - with tailored matchday programme before kick off and anslysis after the game too.
Heard Archie Lovell will be involved in punditry?
Power
19-07-2020, 04:03 PM
Heard Archie Lovell will be involved in punditry?
Wouldn’t surprise me - I’m expecting a number of Hibs-minded and positive bunch.
Season ticket holders get access to all home games regardless of whether sky are showing them.
I’d be very surprised if ppv isn’t available to anyone for games not on sky and that’s what’s been reported in the press
This is what I thought might happen, ST's get access to home games not on Sky so would it not be possible to log into Hibs TV and pay say £5 per home game, extra income for the club and a chance for people like me who didn't get a ST this season due to money being tight ( Covid ) and anyone else on the data base with a reference number.
B.H.F.C
19-07-2020, 04:14 PM
This is what I thought might happen, ST's get access to home games not on Sky so would it not be possible to log into Hibs TV and pay say £5 per home game, extra income for the club and a chance for people like me who didn't get a ST this season due to money being tight ( Covid ) and anyone else on the data base with a reference number.
I think there will be a PPV option agreed over the next couple of weeks.
Don’t think it’ll be as cheap as that with some season ticket holders having paid upwards of 400 quid though.
Ozyhibby
19-07-2020, 04:25 PM
This is what I thought might happen, ST's get access to home games not on Sky so would it not be possible to log into Hibs TV and pay say £5 per home game, extra income for the club and a chance for people like me who didn't get a ST this season due to money being tight ( Covid ) and anyone else on the data base with a reference number.
The deal with Sky doesn’t allow that.
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The 90+2
19-07-2020, 04:29 PM
Wouldn’t surprise me - I’m expecting a number of Hibs-minded and positive bunch.
Gid stuff 😎
04Sauzee
19-07-2020, 04:35 PM
Wouldn’t surprise me - I’m expecting a number of Hibs-minded and positive bunch.
See Archie I loved him as Hibs player, played that wing back roll brilliantly, when he left you would think he hadn't played for Hibs as he always seemed to knock us. He does know his football, looking forward to what Hibs TV has to offer
The Tubs
19-07-2020, 04:47 PM
Boozy was the best, though Weir was good too. I’d be up for giving big Gaz a shot.
hibbysam
19-07-2020, 05:17 PM
The deal with Sky doesn’t allow that.
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You are guessing at that. If the deal with sky didn’t allow it then clubs would have quashed that rumour long before now. As it is, hibs are still looking into the possibility of showing games PPV.
Sky’s deal is regarding sky games. Those games can only be shown to a maximum of the clubs season ticket holders.
Non sky games will be allowed to be shown to as many as possibly allow. It makes no sense for sky to deny that as the games aren’t being shown on their channel so they’re not losing viewers.
Ozyhibby
19-07-2020, 05:45 PM
You are guessing at that. If the deal with sky didn’t allow it then clubs would have quashed that rumour long before now. As it is, hibs are still looking into the possibility of showing games PPV.
Sky’s deal is regarding sky games. Those games can only be shown to a maximum of the clubs season ticket holders.
Non sky games will be allowed to be shown to as many as possibly allow. It makes no sense for sky to deny that as the games aren’t being shown on their channel so they’re not losing viewers.
So you think that the clubs can just start selling all the games Sky are not showing and Sky won’t mind? If sky are so relaxed about clubs selling pay per view tv then why haven’t the clubs done it before?
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Iggy Pope
19-07-2020, 05:56 PM
[QUOTE=Power;6239527]Season Ticket holders will receive a free digital matchday programme, via email, for our league matches (nothing produced for the bounce games with the other SPL teams recently given the format of the game). I don’t think there will be a an official print run for the free digital ones, might just need to be an old skool paper and printer 🖨 job.
Disappointing, if understandable.
The 90+2
19-07-2020, 06:03 PM
So you think that the clubs can just start selling all the games Sky are not showing and Sky won’t mind? If sky are so relaxed about clubs selling pay per view tv then why haven’t the clubs done it before?
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They do on ifollow.
marinello59
19-07-2020, 06:08 PM
You are guessing at that. If the deal with sky didn’t allow it then clubs would have quashed that rumour long before now. As it is, hibs are still looking into the possibility of showing games PPV.
Sky’s deal is regarding sky games. Those games can only be shown to a maximum of the clubs season ticket holders.
Non sky games will be allowed to be shown to as many as possibly allow. It makes no sense for sky to deny that as the games aren’t being shown on their channel so they’re not losing viewers.
That’s up to Sky. As mentioned before they have paid for exclusive rights to show SPFL Premiership football. It doesn’t matter if they are showing a game or not, without their permission it won’t get shown.
Baldy Foghorn
19-07-2020, 06:50 PM
Season Ticket holders will receive a free digital matchday programme, via email, for our league matches (nothing produced for the bounce games with the other SPL teams recently given the format of the game). I don’t think there will be a an official print run for the free digital ones, might just need to be an old skool paper and printer 🖨 job.
I don’t think so - No that I’ve heard, or seen on any of the detail I get Stevie. Season Ticket holders will be covered for all games, even those chosen and shown on Sky, through Hibs TV. Each game on Hibs TV will be produced to high quality event coverage standard - with tailored matchday programme before kick off and anslysis after the game too.
Regarding second paragraph, you say covered for all games. Is this purely home games, or will we also see away games?
oneone73
19-07-2020, 06:52 PM
Regarding second paragraph, you say covered for all games. Is this purely home games, or will we also see away games?
Why would a season ticket get you away games? That's just daft.
Baldy Foghorn
19-07-2020, 07:01 PM
Why would a season ticket get you away games? That's just daft.
How is it daft? We have paid 400 odd pounds, to not be in the ground, as subscribers to Hibs TV, will overseas fans get it and we won't? I was asking based on the paragraph by KP.
Will we be able to PPV for away games? No-one seems to know with the start 13 days away.
Power
19-07-2020, 07:12 PM
Regarding second paragraph, you say covered for all games. Is this purely home games, or will we also see away games?
Just hame ✅
Baldy Foghorn
19-07-2020, 07:17 PM
Just hame ✅
Has anyone from Hibs spoken to our opponents, with a view to access to away games (I'm not asking for free, I am talking PPV or away ST until such times as we are alllowed back into stadia)?
Power
19-07-2020, 07:22 PM
Has anyone from Hibs spoken to our opponents, with a view to access to away games (I'm not asking for free, I am talking PPV or away ST until such times as we are alllowed back into stadia)?
They have - mentioned earlier today on this thread - All clubs are discussing the technicalities of away streaming between one another and liaising with the external stakeholder/suppliers to bring it together. This may be a late decision.
The 90+2
19-07-2020, 07:23 PM
Has anyone from Hibs spoken to our opponents, with a view to access to away games (I'm not asking for free, I am talking PPV or away ST until such times as we are alllowed back into stadia)?
I would take a stab in the dark and say Sky have compromised with season ticket holders thinking about it more watching home games and probably don’t want away fans watching or buying when they get zero out of it and if it’s not on we kick about soccer Saturday (I would suggest iptv) and they hike up the price on adverts in between.
The 90+2
19-07-2020, 07:24 PM
They have - mentioned earlier today on this thread - All clubs are discussing the technicalities of away streaming between one another and liaising with the external stakeholder/suppliers to bring it together. This may be a late decision.
Wonder how willing sky will be.
Baldy Foghorn
19-07-2020, 07:24 PM
They have - mentioned earlier today on this thread - All clubs are discussing the technicalities of away streaming between one another and liaising with the external stakeholder/suppliers to bring it together. This may be a late decision.
Thanks
Iggy Pope
19-07-2020, 07:25 PM
How is it daft? We have paid 400 odd pounds, to not be in the ground, as subscribers to Hibs TV, will overseas fans get it and we won't? I was asking based on the paragraph by KP.
Will we be able to PPV for away games? No-one seems to know with the start 13 days away.
A good question and a question that gets more and more meaningful. Hibs are going to be at Livingston game 2 and no **** knows if, or how, it will be available to witness. If Livi get the profit, that’s cool they’ll get my money. Surely to Christ it’s been discussed?
B.H.F.C
19-07-2020, 07:29 PM
Wonder how willing sky will be.
There was a report a week or two back (might have been The Sun) saying Sky would have no objection to games been sold PPV. What the same report mentioned was that some of the clubs weren’t as keen. Like anything, it’ll come down to costs I suppose.
Baldy Foghorn
19-07-2020, 07:30 PM
I would take a stab in the dark and say Sky have compromised with season ticket holders thinking about it more watching home games and probably don’t want away fans watching or buying when they get zero out of it and if it’s not on we kick about soccer Saturday (I would suggest iptv) and they hike up the price on adverts in between.
Excuse my ignorance, what's iptv?
Billy Whizz
19-07-2020, 07:42 PM
Excuse my ignorance, what's iptv?
I think it’s illegal TV, that takes money out of football and other sports
CL0762
19-07-2020, 07:44 PM
Excuse my ignorance, what's iptv?
Illegal streaming done (typically) through a firestick, app installed allows access to pay to view TV like sky sports, BT sports etc. Usually for a one off payment to the ‘supplier’.
Iggy Pope
19-07-2020, 07:46 PM
I think it’s illegal TV, that takes money out of football and other sports
Ooh that’s going to be popular in the current. Clubs already struggling and getting strangled by COVID and court actions find themselves further scunnered by techies.
Baldy Foghorn
19-07-2020, 07:46 PM
I think it’s illegal TV, that takes money out of football and other sports
Ah right thanks Billy
Baldy Foghorn
19-07-2020, 07:47 PM
Illegal streaming done (typically) through a firestick, app installed allows access to pay to view TV like sky sports, BT sports etc. Usually for a one off payment to the ‘supplier’.
Cheers.
Baldy Foghorn
19-07-2020, 07:48 PM
Ooh that’s going to be popular in the current. Clubs already struggling and getting strangled by COVID and court actions find themselves further scunnered by techies.
I don't understand how the home team can't sell you PPV access for the game. It can't be that difficult surely?
I don't understand how the home team can't sell you PPV access for the game. It can't be that difficult surely?
I think that's what they're looking at, ST's will get access to the live games on Hibs TV, probably the only games not able to be PPV will be the ones Sky are showing as it'll be a conflict of interest.
B.H.F.C
19-07-2020, 07:51 PM
I don't understand how the home team can't sell you PPV access for the game. It can't be that difficult surely?
Because, as it stands, they don’t have the rights to show/sell games? Sky might agree to let them do it though which I think they will. Even then, there will be cost associated with making it happen I’d imagine.
Baldy Foghorn
19-07-2020, 07:54 PM
Because, as it stands, they don’t have the rights to show/sell games? Sky might agree to let them do it though which I think they will. Even then, there will be cost associated with making it happen I’d imagine.
Thanks, more complicated than it looks then.
I hope the away teams are allowed to sell the game to those who want to buy/watch it
Iggy Pope
19-07-2020, 07:54 PM
I don't understand how the home team can't sell you PPV access for the game. It can't be that difficult surely?
I would suggest it is close to essential and in the interest of every clubs finances. Probably more so than even basics like cardboard cut outs and big flags and that.
Baldy Foghorn
19-07-2020, 07:55 PM
I would suggest it is close to essential and in the interest of every clubs finances. Probably more so than even basics like cardboard cut outs and big flags and that.
Hopefully all the clubs can do a deal with each other & SKY, so that no punter loses out
Iggy Pope
19-07-2020, 07:59 PM
Hopefully all the clubs can do a deal with each other & SKY, so that no punter loses out
Or clubs. I’d give Livi and others the going rate and I’m sure many others would. I suppose people sneaking about getting it free with their sticks and what have you might scupper that and that is maybe a game changer. Imagine not being given the opportunity to see Hibs away because some folk were watching Derby County or something on the sly.
The 90+2
19-07-2020, 08:12 PM
Illegal streaming done (typically) through a firestick, app installed allows access to pay to view TV like sky sports, BT sports etc. Usually for a one off payment to the ‘supplier’.
It’s not illegal to watch it.
The 90+2
19-07-2020, 08:13 PM
Or clubs. I’d give Livi and others the going rate and I’m sure many others would. I suppose people sneaking about getting it free with their sticks and what have you might scupper that and that is maybe a game changer. Imagine not being given the opportunity to see Hibs away because some folk were watching Derby County or something on the sly.
Plenty people would do similar even with IPTV but it’s a decent last resort. No need to go super fan on us all with sly digs. Will spoil the thread 👍
matty_f
19-07-2020, 08:17 PM
It’s not illegal to watch it.
I’m pretty sure it is.
Iggy Pope
19-07-2020, 08:19 PM
Or clubs. I’d give Livi and others the going rate and I’m sure many others would. I suppose people sneaking about getting it free with their sticks and what have you might scupper that and that is maybe a game changer. Imagine not being given the opportunity to see Hibs away because some folk were watching Derby County or something on the sly.
Edit. I use the term “sly” in the interests of those clubs all over the country needing funds. I’m not encouraging oneupmanship when people can’t see their club play football.
davhibby
19-07-2020, 08:20 PM
So you think that the clubs can just start selling all the games Sky are not showing and Sky won’t mind? If sky are so relaxed about clubs selling pay per view tv then why haven’t the clubs done it before?
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That’s exactly what’s been happening in the championship in England over the last month.
Iggy Pope
19-07-2020, 08:25 PM
That’s exactly what’s been happening in the championship in England over the last month.
That’s legally though right?
davhibby
19-07-2020, 08:27 PM
That’s legally though right?
Yes, all of the non sky games have been available to ppv from the clubs
Iggy Pope
19-07-2020, 08:32 PM
Yes, all of the non sky games have been available to ppv from the clubs
There’s the answer I hope. If it’s not spoiling the thread.
davhibby
19-07-2020, 08:36 PM
There’s the answer I hope. If it’s not spoiling the thread.
Well to me that shows that sky won’t have a problem with it, just down to the clubs to sort something out
Baldy Foghorn
19-07-2020, 08:43 PM
Well to me that shows that sky won’t have a problem with it, just down to the clubs to sort something out
Fingers crossed, hopefully we hear something concrete in the coming week
blackpoolhibs
20-07-2020, 03:55 PM
I'd imagine most scottish clubs have their own tv channel, on my iptv they do with the exceptions of one or two, Livi and Ross county come to mind.
Even St Johnstone and St Mirren have their games on iptv. It will hopefully not be needed for away games, but i'm pretty sure if there are no legal ways to watch the games, then folk will tune in illegally.
The 90+2
20-07-2020, 04:00 PM
I'd imagine most scottish clubs have their own tv channel, on my iptv they do with the exceptions of one or two, Livi and Ross county come to mind.
Even St Johnstone and St Mirren have their games on iptv. It will hopefully not be needed for away games, but i'm pretty sure if there are no legal ways to watch the games, then folk will tune in illegally.
Spot on. And no moral high ground needed either 👍
Home teams charge a fiver with a £1 going to the Visiting team through a subscription method would be absolutely ideal to everyone. I just can’t see Sky allowing it though, they would rather we watch the results show and then charging for advertising.
The 90+2
20-07-2020, 04:03 PM
I’m pretty sure it is.
To the supplier it is. Watching it isn’t illegal.
B.H.F.C
20-07-2020, 04:12 PM
Spot on. And no moral high ground needed either 👍
Home teams charge a fiver with a £1 going to the Visiting team through a subscription method would be absolutely ideal to everyone. I just can’t see Sky allowing it though, they would rather we watch the results show and then charging for advertising.
Sky have nothing to gain by preventing it. They won’t even have a results show on when our season kicks off, with there being no English football.
BoomtownHibees
20-07-2020, 04:14 PM
To the supplier it is. Watching it isn’t illegal.
Not sure where you’ve saw that but watching an illegal stream is illegal in itself
matty_f
20-07-2020, 04:21 PM
Not sure where you’ve saw that but watching an illegal stream is illegal in itself
Yeah, this was confirmed some time back. You can be prosecuted for streaming iptv, though i don’t know how likely that is.
Iggy Pope
20-07-2020, 04:47 PM
I'd imagine most scottish clubs have their own tv channel, on my iptv they do with the exceptions of one or two, Livi and Ross county come to mind.
Even St Johnstone and St Mirren have their games on iptv. It will hopefully not be needed for away games, but i'm pretty sure if there are no legal ways to watch the games, then folk will tune in illegally.
They will, which is why the clubs would do well to maximise some much needed income from the fans of their opponents. And folks will still tune in illegally I would think.
Livi being game 2 is three weeks away so I hope they’ve got something in mind.
Numptie
20-07-2020, 04:49 PM
If you are watching the intellectual property of a third party without their consent you are breaking the law. No individual will ever be prosecuted, unless they are themselves streaming the content onwards. All film and football IPTV sites are illegal if they are not paying the rights holder for the content. Remember when music streaming first came in, everyone downloaded illegal music but they prosecuted the providers. You can now get most music on Youtube etc but copying the streams is still illegal - even though you can get a Youtube download app to do it!!
Antifa Hibs
21-07-2020, 07:53 AM
@KP
What's the chances (social distancing etc) for this one game for the first team to take a coach to ER, drive up St Clair street (usually pretty quiet with cars) at a pre-arranged time and allow the fans to welcome them to ER?
Would any fans be interested in doing so?
Power
21-07-2020, 09:20 AM
@KP
What's the chances (social distancing etc) for this one game for the first team to take a coach to ER, drive up St Clair street (usually pretty quiet with cars) at a pre-arranged time and allow the fans to welcome them to ER?
Would any fans be interested in doing so?
Appreciate the thought here, sure the players would be encouraged and strengthened with such a display of support.
Short term it is difficult - Match day protocol for both teams and match officials is tight and adheres to Scottish Government guidance. All personnel, including away team, encouraged to travel as per Scottish Government guidelines i.e. own transport where possible, avoid car sharing (Nae coaches and staggered times).
As we move forward with guidance changes, effecting stadium access and footprint guidance, there will be opportunities to show support but hopefully by that time we’re back inside the stadium too, doing what we do best.
Hibs90
21-07-2020, 09:32 AM
Get Deek and Gaz alongside Cliff for commentary, be some laugh.
hibbysam
21-07-2020, 09:36 AM
That’s up to Sky. As mentioned before they have paid for exclusive rights to show SPFL Premiership football. It doesn’t matter if they are showing a game or not, without their permission it won’t get shown.
Hence why I said It makes no sense for sky to deny it. It doesn’t gain them anything by denying it but may result in them getting a better deal by allowing it. The fact clubs are actively discussing it with one another then I’d say sky have probably given the green light.
hibbysam
21-07-2020, 09:39 AM
So you think that the clubs can just start selling all the games Sky are not showing and Sky won’t mind? If sky are so relaxed about clubs selling pay per view tv then why haven’t the clubs done it before?
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It will have been agreed with sky, hence why I said I can’t see why sky would say no.
Clubs haven’t done so before as there was no need to. Fans were allowed in stadia and they wanted to maximise fans turning up. Allowing Bob from Leith to watch it on the tele makes no sense. Also, games kicking off at 3pm couldn’t be shown live. Hence why we could sell to overseas fans.
Sky have already allowed us to sell games to season ticket holders, so no idea why they’d object to more fans when its not live on their channel therefore not impacting their subscriptions.
Ozyhibby
21-07-2020, 09:49 AM
It will have been agreed with sky, hence why I said I can’t see why sky would say no.
Clubs haven’t done so before as there was no need to. Fans were allowed in stadia and they wanted to maximise fans turning up. Allowing Bob from Leith to watch it on the tele makes no sense. Also, games kicking off at 3pm couldn’t be shown live. Hence why we could sell to overseas fans.
Sky have already allowed us to sell games to season ticket holders, so no idea why they’d object to more fans when its not live on their channel therefore not impacting their subscriptions.
I can see why Sky would say no. If I was Sky I would not be encouraging anyone to be watching another tv platform at any time while I’m running 20 channels of content. Not when I have exclusive rights to what they are showing. Sky own these rights and I very much doubt they will just give them away after paying so much for them. If the clubs are allowed to sell games then Sky will be getting a fairly big cut.
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hibbysam
21-07-2020, 09:55 AM
I can see why Sky would say no. If I was Sky I would not be encouraging anyone to be watching another tv platform at any time while I’m running 20 channels of content. Not when I have exclusive rights to what they are showing. Sky own these rights and I very much doubt they will just give them away after paying so much for them. If the clubs are allowed to sell games then Sky will be getting a fairly big cut.
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If Sky are allowing it then it would have been part of the deal for more games to be shown live on Sky. I doubt sky are worried about your hardened Scottish football fan not tuning into the cricket that day because they’re watching hibs v Hamilton on HibsTv.
Their main interest is Celtic and Rangers and majority of their games are live on Sky anyway.
Baldy Foghorn
21-07-2020, 01:22 PM
Seems that if you are a capital club member, you get first entry into Easter road before any other fans, and away games are being shown to these members in the lounges.
matty_f
21-07-2020, 01:24 PM
Seems that if you are a capital club member, you get first entry into Easter road before any other fans, and away games are being shown to these members in the lounges.
How do you mean, Baldy?
blackpoolhibs
21-07-2020, 01:25 PM
Seems that if you are a capital club member, you get first entry into Easter road before any other fans, and away games are being shown to these members in the lounges.
That's a good start, hopefully we will all be allowed to watch soon, and maybe attend in person too before too long. :top marks
Baldy Foghorn
21-07-2020, 01:45 PM
How do you mean, Baldy?
Hospitality season tickets have been told they will be allowed into lounges to watch away games, and will have first entry into home games
matty_f
21-07-2020, 01:47 PM
Hospitality season tickets have been told they will be allowed into lounges to watch away games, and will have first entry into home games
Isn’t that just to do with practicality as much as anything?
Fans are not allowed in the stadium but people are allowed into bars and restaurants.
If you can do something for the folk who have taken those packages, surely you should be doing it?
Season ticket holders don’t get access to the lounges so why would we expect it now?
Ozyhibby
21-07-2020, 01:48 PM
Isn’t that just to do with practicality as much as anything?
Fans are not allowed in the stadium but people are allowed into bars and restaurants.
If you can do something for the folk who have taken those packages, surely you should be doing it?
Season ticket holders don’t get access to the lounges so why would we expect it now?
Seems like a good start. [emoji106]
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CapitalGreen
21-07-2020, 01:49 PM
Hospitality season tickets have been told they will be allowed into lounges to watch away games, and will have first entry into home games
Fair play, they pay significantly more money for their season ticket and as such they get a more substantial product.
Stuart93
21-07-2020, 01:49 PM
Isn’t that just to do with practicality as much as anything?
Fans are not allowed in the stadium but people are allowed into bars and restaurants.
If you can do something for the folk who have taken those packages, surely you should be doing it?
Season ticket holders don’t get access to the lounges so why would we expect it now?
That was my thinking
You pay a lot more money for corporate ST’s than a normal ST as well.
04Sauzee
21-07-2020, 01:50 PM
Fair play, they pay significantly more money for their season ticket.
Put of interest How much do they pay for a season ticket? Won't be cheap?
matty_f
21-07-2020, 01:51 PM
That's a good start, hopefully we will all be allowed to watch soon, and maybe attend in person too before too long. :top marks
Yeah, if people are allowed in to the lounge and are able to get something back for the money they’ve committed, and make some money for Hibs, it’s got to be considered a good thing.
CapitalGreen
21-07-2020, 01:52 PM
Put of interest How much do they pay for a season ticket? Won't be cheap?
Think it’s about £1300. Can’t remember the exact figure but it used to be 2 pricing tiers but now is a single price point.
stantonhibby
21-07-2020, 01:54 PM
Put of interest How much do they pay for a season ticket? Won't be cheap?
£1,350
Power
21-07-2020, 01:58 PM
Isn’t that just to do with practicality as much as anything?
Fans are not allowed in the stadium but people are allowed into bars and restaurants.
If you can do something for the folk who have taken those packages, surely you should be doing it?
Season ticket holders don’t get access to the lounges so why would we expect it now?
Agree with Matty here.
No information has been passed to me but I wouldn’t expect it either. Corporate Season Tickets getting access to Corporate Areas is a good start and should open opportunities for more.
I’m positive they’ll be doing above their best to look after all types of supporters. Corporate season tickets right down to those without season tickets that want to see their team too.
Looking after supporters was something flagged by myself last month (few pages back now) - Make every effort to look after all types of Hibs fan when football returns. Season Ticket holders (providing value for Season Ticket purchases) and regular supporters (Our walk-up fans are still thought of until we’re back at Easter Road).
matty_f
21-07-2020, 01:59 PM
Agree with Matty here.
No information has been passed to me but I wouldn’t expect it either. Corporate Season Tickets getting access to Corporate Areas is a good start and should allow opportunities to more.
I’m positive they’ll be doing above their best to look after all types of supporters. Corporate season tickets right down to those without season tickets that want to see their team too.
Looking after supporters was something flagged by myself last month (few pages back now) - Make every effort to look after all types of Hibs fan when football returns. Season Ticket holders (providing value for Season Ticket purchases) and regular supporters (Our walk-up fans are still thought of until we’re back at Easter Road).
Potential to do something with Behind the Goals, Keiran? Maybe ballot season ticket holders for it?
Power
21-07-2020, 02:05 PM
Potential to do something with Behind the Goals, Keiran? Maybe ballot season ticket holders for it?
It’s the kind of thinking I expect Sales to be well down the road on - I still pass these type of suggestions on in any case ✅
Baldy Foghorn
21-07-2020, 02:09 PM
Agree with Matty here.
No information has been passed to me but I wouldn’t expect it either. Corporate Season Tickets getting access to Corporate Areas is a good start and should open opportunities for more.
I’m positive they’ll be doing above their best to look after all types of supporters. Corporate season tickets right down to those without season tickets that want to see their team too.
Looking after supporters was something flagged by myself last month (few pages back now) - Make every effort to look after all types of Hibs fan when football returns. Season Ticket holders (providing value for Season Ticket purchases) and regular supporters (Our walk-up fans are still thought of until we’re back at Easter Road).
So away season ticket holders don't get similar offer to see away games in a lounge. Still no confirmation from club re away games. We are all hibs though?
matty_f
21-07-2020, 02:11 PM
So away season ticket holders don't get similar offer to see away games in a lounge. Still no confirmation from club re away games. We are all hibs though?
Would you usually expect your away season ticket to get you into Easter Road’s lounge?
Brightside
21-07-2020, 02:13 PM
Away ST Holders give money to other clubs. If you are a Corp Member and giving £1350 to the club then they absolutely should get more for their money.
CapitalGreen
21-07-2020, 02:14 PM
So away season ticket holders don't get similar offer to see away games in a lounge. Still no confirmation from club re away games. We are all hibs though?
How much are away season ticket holders being charged for away games which are being held behind closed doors?
Ozyhibby
21-07-2020, 02:14 PM
Away season ticket holders are not losing money on the lock out, corporate season ticket holders are.
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Ozyhibby
21-07-2020, 02:15 PM
How much are away season ticket holders being charged for away games which are being held behind closed doors?
Heehaw. It’s moaning for moaning sake.
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B.H.F.C
21-07-2020, 02:16 PM
So away season ticket holders don't get similar offer to see away games in a lounge. Still no confirmation from club re away games. We are all hibs though?
In fairness, we haven’t paid anything out for an away season ticket.
If they are able to broadcast an away game in to a lounge at ER then that suggests to me that we (and the wider support) will be able to watch them also, if we pay for the privilege.
There has been no confirmation from anybody in Scottish football about viewing away games. If someone on the corporate side has released that information to people they’ve got a bit ahead of themselves I’d say.
CapitalGreen
21-07-2020, 02:17 PM
Away ST Holders give money to other clubs. If you are a Corp Member and giving £1350 to the club then they absolutely should get more for their money.
This. Capital Club members pay £900 per season to access the Capital Club lounges. If the current phase 3 guidelines allow these members access then what is the problem?
Power
21-07-2020, 02:23 PM
So away season ticket holders don't get similar offer to see away games in a lounge. Still no confirmation from club re away games. We are all hibs though?
I’m still hopeful the fact 11/12 clubs have signed up to the same streaming company there is the potential for full agreement on purchasing/watching Away games. I don’t believe any club has communicated the technicalities about potential away team viewing - stand to be corrected on that one.
If that is successful, how the clubs will communicate that will need collective joined up thinking. Hopefully simple to follow.
matty_f
21-07-2020, 02:27 PM
I honestly can’t get my head around the complaint on this one.
On the face of it, all Hibs have done is work with the very, very limited hand they’ve been played and tried to provide a service to a section of the support that they can provide it to.
I’m joking obviously, but I’m amazed some folk aren’t camped outside hospitals complaining that some people caught COVID and they didn’t.
B.H.F.C
21-07-2020, 02:28 PM
I’m still hopeful the fact 11/12 clubs have signed up to the same streaming company there is the potential for full agreement on purchasing/watching Away games. I don’t believe any club has communicated the technicalities about potential away team viewing - stand to be corrected on that one.
If that is successful, how the clubs will communicate that will need collective joined up thinking. Hopefully simple to follow.
If I remember rightly the initial communication on virtual season tickets came from the league. If there is an agreement reached to allow games to be sold on an individual basis I’d think they’ll be the ones to release that again perhaps?
I don’t think any club has said anything because, as it stands, I don’t think it’s allowed. Again, someone might correct me on that!
HibeesLA
21-07-2020, 02:29 PM
I think it’s illegal TV, that takes money out of football and other sports
Apologies for the nerdy answer:
IPTV is Internet Protocol TeleVision. Basically TV streamed over the internet, which doesn't make it illegal. The provider of the IPTV source is what makes it illegal. For example, Netflix is delivered over IPTV.
Just to clear up the terms, PPV (Pay Per View) just refers to the transaction, not the delivery method. PPV can be delivered over Broadcast signal, Set Top Box/Freeview, or IPTV.
Radium
21-07-2020, 02:37 PM
If I am honest I am pretty binary about this one and think that fans should be back when all the presale tickets can be accommodated.
Until then those in the stadium should be there as part of their job.
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hibbysam
21-07-2020, 02:37 PM
Further confirmation that Sky are clearly fine with teams showing games which aren’t live on Sky.
matty_f
21-07-2020, 02:42 PM
If I am honest I am pretty binary about this one and think that fans should be back when all the presale tickets can be accommodated.
Until then those in the stadium should be there as part of their job.
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People are allowed in pubs and restaurants now, so if you can accommodate that then why wouldn’t you?
In fact, I’d say if you could accommodate it and don’t then those that paid for it would be justified in asking for their money back.
Different to buying the season ticket not knowing if we could use it and the club not being allowed to open the stadium - but imagine if it was the other way around and they could open the stadium but not let people in to hospitality areas... we’d not want to wait for hospitality to be available to watch the games.
CapitalGreen
21-07-2020, 02:47 PM
If I am honest I am pretty binary about this one and think that fans should be back when all the presale tickets can be accommodated.
Until then those in the stadium should be there as part of their job.
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So if the Scottish Govt permitted crowds of up to 10,000, Hibs should not allow fans into games because we have sold 10,500 season tickets and therefore not everyone could be accommodated?
Radium
21-07-2020, 02:52 PM
People are allowed in pubs and restaurants now, so if you can accommodate that then why wouldn’t you?
In fact, I’d say if you could accommodate it and don’t then those that paid for it would be justified in asking for their money back.
Different to buying the season ticket not knowing if we could use it and the club not being allowed to open the stadium - but imagine if it was the other way around and they could open the stadium but not let people in to hospitality areas... we’d not want to wait for hospitality to be available to watch the games.
I am completely happy with the fact that there are benefits around the corporate packages when grounds are open: access to club officials/ players/ away tickets so have no ace to grind regarding their perks but if what we are saying is that they get early access to the games in the stadium because of their package that is a bit shan.
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Radium
21-07-2020, 02:52 PM
So if the Scottish Govt permitted crowds of up to 10,000, Hibs should not allow fans into games because we have sold 10,500 season tickets and therefore not everyone could be accommodated?
Yip
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matty_f
21-07-2020, 02:54 PM
Yip
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That’s mental - especially if you look at it from Hibs’ perspective.
matty_f
21-07-2020, 02:55 PM
I am completely happy with the fact that there are benefits around the corporate packages when grounds are open: access to club officials/ players/ away tickets so have no ace to grind regarding their perks but if what we are saying is that they get early access to the games in the stadium because of their package that is a bit shan.
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I would think they’ll be watching through the windows from the lounge.
Their hospitality package doesn’t circumvent government rules.
hibbysam
21-07-2020, 02:57 PM
I would think they’ll be watching through the windows from the lounge.
Their hospitality package doesn’t circumvent government rules.
I’d imagine it’ll be away games only. No way will they allow ‘outsiders’ into the stadium for home games during the current protocols. Too much risk involved in that.
Sean1875
21-07-2020, 03:01 PM
I’m still hopeful the fact 11/12 clubs have signed up to the same streaming company there is the potential for full agreement on purchasing/watching Away games. I don’t believe any club has communicated the technicalities about potential away team viewing - stand to be corrected on that one.
If that is successful, how the clubs will communicate that will need collective joined up thinking. Hopefully simple to follow.
Sorry if already answered - who is the 1 team that's not signed up to the same streaming service as the rest?
Mr Grieves
21-07-2020, 03:15 PM
Sorry if already answered - who is the 1 team that's not signed up to the same streaming service as the rest?
The rangers
Radium
21-07-2020, 03:15 PM
I would think they’ll be watching through the windows from the lounge.
Their hospitality package doesn’t circumvent government rules.
I appreciate that and if Hibs hired a cinema screen at Ocean Terminal and gave them access to the game on a big screen with hospitality (by way of example as I accept the costs) I would have no issue. If they want to hire a plane and watch it through binoculars, crack on.
A less flippant response to the 10k question. If the club are allowed to open on a restricted basis, and have a draw where people have an equal chance to get a seat in the stadium I could see merit in that. If the proposal is that priority went to people who had paid more for their ticket then that goes against the We Are Hibs sentiment.
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Billy Whizz
21-07-2020, 03:19 PM
Away season ticket holders are not losing money on the lock out, corporate season ticket holders are.
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Wonder if we’ll run it this season anyway
You might not be able to take full buses, cars etc come the time to get in, so would be un fair in charging someone for an away ticket, then you can’t travel
Sean1875
21-07-2020, 03:20 PM
The rangers
I probably should have guessed that tbf :rolleyes:
Power
21-07-2020, 03:35 PM
I’d imagine it’ll be away games only. No way will they allow ‘outsiders’ into the stadium for home games during the current protocols. Too much risk involved in that.
This is right. No supporters at the ground on home games - the government and joint response group guidelines on the home club during closed door games are keeping personnel to essential and minimum.
matty_f
21-07-2020, 03:39 PM
I’d imagine it’ll be away games only. No way will they allow ‘outsiders’ into the stadium for home games during the current protocols. Too much risk involved in that.
:aok:
matty_f
21-07-2020, 03:40 PM
This is right. No supporters at the ground on home games - the government and joint response group guidelines on the home club during closed door games are keeping personnel to essential and minimum.
In that case, letting those fans in for hospitality for the away games is even less of an issue, imho.
Radium
21-07-2020, 03:44 PM
This is right. No supporters at the ground on home games - the government and joint response group guidelines on the home club during closed door games are keeping personnel to essential and minimum.
... if only I had known this an hour ago [emoji55]
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Eyrie
21-07-2020, 06:28 PM
I appreciate that and if Hibs hired a cinema screen at Ocean Terminal and gave them access to the game on a big screen with hospitality (by way of example as I accept the costs) I would have no issue. If they want to hire a plane and watch it through binoculars, crack on.
A less flippant response to the 10k question. If the club are allowed to open on a restricted basis, and have a draw where people have an equal chance to get a seat in the stadium I could see merit in that. If the proposal is that priority went to people who had paid more for their ticket then that goes against the We Are Hibs sentiment.
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I doubt all 10500 would be able to go, so instead of a draw it would be first come first served.
But in practice if we're allowed 10k at Easter Road then the practicalities of social distancing mean that we'll be allowed a full stadium instead.
Carheenlea
21-07-2020, 07:57 PM
The Away Season Ticket holders are the group of Hibs supporters who will find watching streams/televised footage the hardest simply by their habit of attending every game. Ideally you would want this group to have the first opportunity to watch "beambacks" if they are being broadcast at Easter Road, but I get the argument of the Executive ST holders losing out on their matchday hospitality etc that comes with their package so can understand the reasoning behind offering such a facility to view away games in place of their normal home game routine.
Hopefully some kind of deal can be struck to allow fans to purchase away streams which would keep everyone happy.
Brightside
22-07-2020, 07:02 AM
https://www.motherwellfc.co.uk/2020/07/21/season-ticket-holder-live-stream-information/ I’m going to assume ours will be launched today/tomorrow. Hopefully with an Aberdeen test.
JimBHibees
22-07-2020, 07:40 AM
https://www.motherwellfc.co.uk/2020/07/21/season-ticket-holder-live-stream-information/ I’m going to assume ours will be launched today/tomorrow. Hopefully with an Aberdeen test.
Notice no comment about any possibility of away games on Well communication.
B.H.F.C
22-07-2020, 07:45 AM
Notice no comment about any possibility of away games on Well communication.
Or buying individual games if you are a non season ticket holder. That, along with whether or not we’ll be able to watch away games, is what we really want to know.
JimBHibees
22-07-2020, 07:46 AM
Or buying individual games if you are a non season ticket holder. That, along with whether or not we’ll be able to watch away games, is what we really want to know.
Good point could be a real money spinner for clubs at a time they most need it.
Brightside
22-07-2020, 08:14 AM
Notice no comment about any possibility of away games on Well communication.
Isn’t the first game they are showing away? Maybe I read it wrong.
B.H.F.C
22-07-2020, 08:31 AM
Isn’t the first game they are showing away? Maybe I read it wrong.
It’s a friendly.
flash
22-07-2020, 08:41 AM
When I log into Hibs TV it's asking me to update my subscription and pay to watch it. I thought it was all free for season ticket holders.
Anyone help?
B.H.F.C
22-07-2020, 08:41 AM
When I log into Hibs TV it's asking me to update my subscription and pay to watch it. I thought it was all free for season ticket holders.
Anyone help?
They stopped that last month to upgrade it etc.
flash
22-07-2020, 08:47 AM
They stopped that last month to upgrade it etc.
Cheers.
Brightside
22-07-2020, 04:34 PM
Tomorrow morning for the TV launch.
we are hibs
22-07-2020, 04:40 PM
Got a email saying theyre having a test event next week for ST'S
Baldy Foghorn
22-07-2020, 08:26 PM
The Away Season Ticket holders are the group of Hibs supporters who will find watching streams/televised footage the hardest simply by their habit of attending every game. Ideally you would want this group to have the first opportunity to watch "beambacks" if they are being broadcast at Easter Road, but I get the argument of the Executive ST holders losing out on their matchday hospitality etc that comes with their package so can understand the reasoning behind offering such a facility to view away games in place of their normal home game routine.
Hopefully some kind of deal can be struck to allow fans to purchase away streams which would keep everyone happy.
Much more succint thanI could muster Dave:aok:
BlackSheep
23-07-2020, 09:44 AM
@KP
Any word on when the home kits will be available to preorder/order again in adult sizes?
Power
23-07-2020, 09:52 AM
@KP
Any word on when the home kits will be available to preorder/order again in adult sizes?
Nae definite date passed on to me but I’m hoping at some point early August - I think the volume of the first order has surpassed anything Hibs or Macron would’ve expected (and more). Should be smoother moving forward with the easing of restrictions in Italy and here now.
If I get any knowledge I’ll tap back in here ✅
Brightside
23-07-2020, 09:54 AM
I have it on good authority that unless you retweet the ST video you will not be allowed to order the new kit. :wink:
BlackSheep
23-07-2020, 09:57 AM
I have it on good authority that unless you retweet the ST video you will not be allowed to order the new kit. :wink:
Done. 😂😂😂
I love that vid by the way, not sure why so many are against it... it’s like being a child when it’s ‘cool’ to dislike everything!!!
calumhibee1
23-07-2020, 09:58 AM
http://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/news/10683
Brightside
23-07-2020, 09:59 AM
http://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/news/10683
The 90+2
23-07-2020, 10:00 AM
Wait 20 years to get Tanner off the TV and...... :greengrin
Alex Trager
23-07-2020, 10:00 AM
Nothing to suggest that non international viewers will be able to watch the games through HibsTV which is a disappointment. In fact it says that non ST holders will only be able to listen to the games which is not great. Thought there would be a ‘patg’ type offer
The 90+2
23-07-2020, 10:07 AM
Nothing to suggest that non international viewers will be able to watch the games through HibsTV which is a disappointment. In fact it says that non ST holders will only be able to listen to the games which is not great. Thought there would be a ‘patg’ type offer
Can’t you get Hibs International through a vpn?
Alex Trager
23-07-2020, 10:18 AM
Can’t you get Hibs International through a vpn?
I’ve no idea mate. Maybe you can. Was hoping to be able to avoid that tbh.
Frustrating that the club aren’t able to offer a patg service, as I reckon that would have chalked up a fair bit of cash
The 90+2
23-07-2020, 10:25 AM
I’ve no idea mate. Maybe you can. Was hoping to be able to avoid that tbh.
Frustrating that the club aren’t able to offer a patg service, as I reckon that would have chalked up a fair bit of cash
Yeah I totally agree. VPN would be a good workaround while giving the club money at the same time though. Perhaps they will introduce payg in the next week or so mind you, fingers crossed 🤞
lucky
23-07-2020, 11:55 AM
Yeah I totally agree. VPN would be a good workaround while giving the club money at the same time though. Perhaps they will introduce payg in the next week or so mind you, fingers crossed 🤞
Unfortunately if people are savvy enough to get a VPN they will more than likely get a way for watching home games for free. I think Hibs or more likely Scottish football have missed a trick here by not selling individual games.
blackpoolhibs
23-07-2020, 11:57 AM
Unfortunately if people are savvy enough to get a VPN they will more than likely get a way for watching home games for free. I think Hibs or more likely Scottish football have missed a trick here by not selling individual games.
You dont even need a vpn for some iptv providers, they have them for you now.
bigwheel
23-07-2020, 11:58 AM
Unfortunately if people are savvy enough to get a VPN they will more than likely get a way for watching home games for free. I think Hibs or more likely Scottish football have missed a trick here by not selling individual games.
the problem with individual game selling is that it undermines the main benefit of a season ticket. it will be one of the issue that makes away games difficult too, as what woold stop the home teams fans tuning in if it was a good value price...
The 90+2
23-07-2020, 11:58 AM
Unfortunately if people are savvy enough to get a VPN they will more than likely get a way for watching home games for free. I think Hibs or more likely Scottish football have missed a trick here by not selling individual games.
Definitely. Won’t just be home games either.
The 90+2
23-07-2020, 11:59 AM
You dont even need a vpn for some iptv providers, they have them for you now.
In terms of subscription to International TV and giving cash to Hibs you would though.
blackpoolhibs
23-07-2020, 12:10 PM
In terms of subscription to International TV and giving cash to Hibs you would though.
That is illegal though, i thought you did not want to go down that route?
Hibs90
23-07-2020, 12:14 PM
That is illegal though, i thought you did not want to go down that route?
Illegal or not people will do it if it's the only way of watching games for them.
The 90+2
23-07-2020, 12:22 PM
That is illegal though, i thought you did not want to go down that route?
I don’t think anyone does, I’ll be watching on Hibs TV regardless but people will find alternatives, that’s the point. It’s a costly alternative to clubs.
ian cruise
23-07-2020, 01:03 PM
the problem with individual game selling is that it undermines the main benefit of a season ticket. it will be one of the issue that makes away games difficult too, as what woold stop the home teams fans tuning in if it was a good value price...
I've been thinking that as I read through thus thread and wondering if there was something that I was missing. Unless you charged normal PATG prices (which few would pay to watch an online game) then the club can't justify the season ticket price. I don't have a ST, but if I did and individual games were £5 or £10 then I'd be pretty angry I'd paid approx £20 for the same game. Similarly for away games, home fans would just use the same cheaper stream.
blackpoolhibs
23-07-2020, 03:48 PM
Illegal or not people will do it if it's the only way of watching games for them.
I don’t think anyone does, I’ll be watching on Hibs TV regardless but people will find alternatives, that’s the point. It’s a costly alternative to clubs.
Why do you both think Hibs are not selling individual games?
Hibs90
23-07-2020, 04:05 PM
Why do you both think Hibs are not selling individual games?
Because they've already said non ST holders have no way of watching.
blackpoolhibs
23-07-2020, 04:09 PM
Because they've already said non ST holders have no way of watching.
Yes but why, are they doing it on purpose just to piss people off?
The 90+2
23-07-2020, 04:10 PM
Why do you both think Hibs are not selling individual games?
Broadcasters Copyright somewhere.
Hibs90
23-07-2020, 05:14 PM
Yes but why, are they doing it on purpose just to piss people off?
Nobody has said they are :confused:
blackpoolhibs
23-07-2020, 06:05 PM
Nobody has said they are :confused:
You are right, but all i'm seeing is folk saying how unfair it is that they cant see the game, when its clearly not.
The 90+2
23-07-2020, 06:14 PM
You are right, but all i'm seeing is folk saying how unfair it is that they cant see the game, when its clearly not.
It can be unfair but the club isn’t doing it to piss people off.
I think they're still looking into individual game purchases, there are many fans who still pay per game and plenty like myself unable to buy a ST due to the Covid problem. It's a good way for the club to bring in extra money on match days if they have the technology to let it happen, obviously any home games on SKY will be a no go.
B.H.F.C
23-07-2020, 08:31 PM
I think they're still looking into individual game purchases, there are many fans who still pay per game and plenty like myself unable to buy a ST due to the Covid problem. It's a good way for the club to bring in extra money on match days if they have the technology to let it happen, obviously any home games on SKY will be a no go.
I think they’re still trying to make it happen or they know it is happening and are keeping it quiet.
If there wasn’t any chance of it happening they’d have completely dismissed it to try and drive some extra ST sales. KP has already alluded to the fact that it’ll likely go down to the wire if it is to happen. They’re not daft and they know people will be able to watch anyway so why not try to get some additional revenue from it (even if Sky need to get a cut).
Ozyhibby
24-07-2020, 11:04 AM
If it happens it will be because SKY can make money from it. They own the rights.
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Power
29-07-2020, 02:57 PM
Afternoon all,
Good news! Hibs are back at the end of this week to fill a massive void in our lives. However, it’s not as we would all want but it’s welcome fix all the same. There is positive noises around Scottish football that we might see crowds at stadiums before year end – we all know that is a flexible situation but we can be confident given the part we, and the rest of the nation, has played getting us to here. Keep doing what you do. Here through the usual channels and
[email protected].
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http://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/news/10657 (http://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/news/10657)
On the 5th July, our long awaited fixtures for the new campaign was released. We open with Kilmarnock this Saturday before making the short trip to Livingston on Saturday 8 August. Our next four matches thereafter have been selected for live coverage on Sky Sports – Dundee Utd (a), Motherwell (h), St Johnstone (a), Aberdeėn (h). Throw in Rangęrs at home on the 19th of September as a big likely to be changed for Sky Sports we’ll be on show widely early in the campaign.
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http://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/news/10690 (http://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/news/10690)
The club released details of Hibs Pass on Tuesday 28th. The revamped Hibs TV package will be a new experience for most of us and one that will support us short-term till we’re back at Easter Road. The club will continue to make it simple as possible for instructions. The above is a useful link to FAQs.
Testing of the Hibs specific platform for sign-in testing will be completed tonight 5-8pm (Wednesday) and there is another opportunity tomorrow again. The technical provider Stream Digital has taken the learnings from Celtíc, Aberdeėn and Motherwell matches played over the last week and will now apply that to all 11 teams using the service from this weekend onwards, including us. Patience may be required to get stability and smooth performance but I’m hopeful of success given the work the team at the club has done.
A reminder that Season Ticket holders will see all games (including those on Sky Sports) on www.hibspass.com (http://www.hibspass.com/), The SPFL and Sky Sports have consented clubs to sell streams for games not shown on Sky. These streams will be sold through the HOME clubs’ website through a registration and sale process.
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http://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/news/10684 (http://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/news/10684)
Joelle Murray is the latest addition to the new Hibs TV line up, joining David, Tam and regular voice Cliff as a special guest on Saturday – there will be more special guests throughout this virtual journey. There will be a half-hour build-up with the team, alongside some half-time coverage and a post-match round-up. Looking forward to seeing this kick off.
Please remember to sign-on early on Saturday, the programme is available from 2:30pm.
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http://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/news/10687 (http://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/news/10687)
The club announced on Monday 27th July that Pay Per View will be available when the opportunity allows.
I’ve passed a lot of supporter feedback from here and elsewhere regarding our need to look after all different types of supporters over the summer – Season Ticket holders, regular walk-ups, hospitality, overseas plus others – I’m disappointed that some supporters will miss out on Saturday but I appreciate and understand where the club has got to in making sure everything is right technically on Saturday before taking time to ensure the best structure and service specific to PPV is rolled out at the next available fixture.
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I would like to update you on a number of key areas that I’ve flagged recently with the club on behalf of supporters.
Virtual streaming confidence
Straightforward ask of watching Hibs virtually lands successfully on the first few return to play games to gain widespread confidence in our systems. Access is made simple and the coverage is high quality for supporters.
KP – I have seen all the different club departments working on this behind the scenes - supporting our technical partners - and I know they realise how important this is and want to go that extra step further for us, they’ve put a lot into it.
Power
29-07-2020, 02:58 PM
c10,600 Season Tickets and Hibernian Supporters hitting 1,000 new/restarted contributors.
The fantastic backing shown by all of us has given the club the confidence to strengthen the squad through bringing in Alex Gogic, Drey Wright and Kevin Nisbet.
https://twitter.com/leeanndempster/status/1281583029446746113?s=21 (https://twitter.com/leeanndempster/status/1281583029446746113?s=21)
https://hiberniansupporters.co.uk (https://hiberniansupporters.co.uk/)
The Power and difference contributing small spare change regularly to Hibernian Supporters is there to be seen.
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Hibs Strip update
Dispatching of the pre-ordered 2020-21 home kits commenced today (Wednesday 29th July) and once cleared the small and hardworking clubstore staff will move onto fulfilling the away kit pre-orders.
Any collections can be made once you receive an email confirming your order is ready to collect
– please take that with you or proof of address when collecting.
Once the club has processed the majority of the above orders they will move to open up more options for strip pre-order on the second large batch – delivery expected in September. Keep an eye on the club channels for this opening again. (for context a second batch order wouldn’t usually be made until late in the year – phenomenal sales).
http://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/news/10677 (http://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/news/10677)
Our Yellow kit was released on the 17th of July. A good throwback to 2004 and 1998 (and more) yellow. The new third kit will be made to order and won’t be available in the clubstore – order window will close on Friday 6th August and delivered in early October.
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Hibernian Community Foundation - If you know your history
https://www.hibeesbounce.com/attachments/a24b496b-cbe3-4efa-8e42-71d2ceb067e8-jpeg.3077/
Legendary Goalkeeper John Burridge is the next guest as part of 'If You Know Your History' with Hibernian Community Foundation on Tuesday 4th of August 17.30-19.00. The call will look back at Budgie's time with Hibernian which included a cup win in 1991 where he became a fan's favourite.
https://www.hiberniancommunityfoundation.org.uk/Event/if-you-know-your-history-john-burrdige (https://www.hiberniancommunityfoundation.org.uk/Event/if-you-know-your-history-john-burrdige)
What a character – hopefully we’ll find out first-hand if he did go in the huff at Airdrie away about wearing a goalkeeper top that wasnae his own or if he really did catch fruit and veg in his sleep.
Power
29-07-2020, 02:59 PM
Club call outs this month.
https://www.hibeesbounce.com/attachments/95240899-07b4-49c6-9563-01d8a84ec3c3-jpeg.3078/
Welcome to Drey, Kevin and Alex – everyone is excited by their arrival and the players have integrated well.
http://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/news/10668 (http://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/news/10668)
http://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/news/10669 (http://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/news/10669)
http://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/news/10671 (http://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/news/10671)
https://www.hibeesbounce.com/attachments/f601040f-a807-42fa-8c16-4c05f382c4d8-jpeg.3079/
Our Scottish Cup semi-final fixture has been planned in - weekend of Saturday, 31 October and Sunday, 1 November with dates and kick-offs subject to live broadcast. There is genuine belief these fixtures can be played in front of crowds and with our new players eligible and not cup-tied there is no better way to close off a quite frankly forgettable year by going on and having a shot at glory.
https://www.scottishfa.co.uk/news/festive-final-beckons-as-william-hill-scottish-cup-fixtures-confirmed/?rid=2107 (https://www.scottishfa.co.uk/news/festive-final-beckons-as-william-hill-scottish-cup-fixtures-confirmed/?rid=2107)
Hibernian agree Tec:agency partnership
http://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/news/10679 (http://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/news/10679)
Ticket Office is back open
http://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/news/10680 (http://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/news/10680)
https://www.hibeesbounce.com/attachments/a722998c-044e-47d3-a017-3005477c6473-jpeg.3080/
Easter Road flags and banners
http://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/news/10678 (http://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/news/10678)
KP - remember to get in touch with the club to have seats and areas covered in your creative efforts.
Amanda Jones leaves the board
http://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/news/10658 (http://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/news/10658)
KP – echo the club’s call out in wishing Amanda all the best in her new appointment. A fantastic support to me settling into a new environment.
Power
29-07-2020, 02:59 PM
https://www.hibeesbounce.com/attachments/8ac38b27-2699-4f6e-8340-6e156b28d86b-jpeg.3081/
I was mentioning to a friend of my Dad’s (for the purpose of this we’ll call him Terry) about the new latest Hibernian 3D phone cases. Hibernian FC (https://phones.hibernianfc.co.uk/)
“I’ve got one of them” and proceeds to send me a photo of this.
https://www.hibeesbounce.com/attachments/f0246853-4596-43dd-b1b2-64f9f2bdf3eb-jpeg.3082/
Wait until he catches up and finds out we won the Scottish Cup in 2016.
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Pat Quinn 1936-2020
I enjoyed being telt tales about Pat playing for Hibs by Tamsons bar regulars when I was younger. A midfield controller with so much skill it left a legacy at the club which is still remembered today. His
memory will go marching on.
http://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/news/10674 (http://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/news/10674)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K13hH0pJx5s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K13hH0pJx5s)
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This is what it feels like to be Hibs.
http://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/news/10681 (http://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/news/10681)
https://www.hibeesbounce.com/attachments/fa6ae4e3-b5a7-46a9-a336-a6388e7700de-png.3083/
Fantastic support from members of the Australia branch of the Hibernian Supporters Association. Unbelievable effort these guys and all our overseas supporters across the globe go to in supporting our club. Hibs and Perseverance is in all of your DNA.
Vault Boy
29-07-2020, 03:01 PM
Thanks for another helpful update KP!
Power
29-07-2020, 03:06 PM
A couple of supporting pictures attached.
JohnMcM
29-07-2020, 03:24 PM
Thanks KP. Appreciate what you do.
Garymcl
29-07-2020, 03:29 PM
Brilliant update KP appreciate all the good work :flag:
The 90+2
29-07-2020, 03:31 PM
A couple of supporting pictures attached.
Had that yin for the Nokia in or around 2001 😁
Cheers again Kieran 👍
peterharrogate
31-07-2020, 06:05 PM
https://www.hibeesbounce.com/attachments/8ac38b27-2699-4f6e-8340-6e156b28d86b-jpeg.3081/
I was mentioning to a friend of my Dad’s (for the purpose of this we’ll call him Terry) about the new latest Hibernian 3D phone cases. Hibernian FC (https://phones.hibernianfc.co.uk/)
“I’ve got one of them” and proceeds to send me a photo of this.
https://www.hibeesbounce.com/attachments/f0246853-4596-43dd-b1b2-64f9f2bdf3eb-jpeg.3082/
Wait until he catches up and finds out we won the Scottish Cup in 2016.
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Pat Quinn 1936-2020
I enjoyed being telt tales about Pat playing for Hibs by Tamsons bar regulars when I was younger. A midfield controller with so much skill it left a legacy at the club which is still remembered today. His
memory will go marching on.
http://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/news/10674 (http://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/news/10674)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K13hH0pJx5s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K13hH0pJx5s)
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This is what it feels like to be Hibs.
http://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/news/10681 (http://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/news/10681)
https://www.hibeesbounce.com/attachments/fa6ae4e3-b5a7-46a9-a336-a6388e7700de-png.3083/
Fantastic support from members of the Australia branch of the Hibernian Supporters Association. Unbelievable effort these guys and all our overseas supporters across the globe go to in supporting our club. Hibs and Perseverance is in all of your DNA.
KP My children's and their friends strips aren't being sent out until September. How did the club decide which 7000 would get theirs and more importantly which of us wouldn't. I presume you got yours ok?
DaveF
31-07-2020, 06:46 PM
KP My children's and their friends strips aren't being sent out until September. How did the club decide which 7000 would get theirs and more importantly which of us wouldn't. I presume you got yours ok?
Can understand your frustration but the last point is uncalled for.
Speedway
31-07-2020, 06:47 PM
Thank you again for all of this KP.
The 90+2
31-07-2020, 06:49 PM
KP My children's and their friends strips aren't being sent out until September. How did the club decide which 7000 would get theirs and more importantly which of us wouldn't. I presume you got yours ok?
I would hope KP is top of the list for strip distribution considering all the work he does for us, the supporters.
Power
31-07-2020, 07:04 PM
KP My children's and their friends strips aren't being sent out until September. How did the club decide which 7000 would get theirs and more importantly which of us wouldn't. I presume you got yours ok?
That’s more than disappointing. If you’re unhappy with the service and explanation that the clubstore (
[email protected]) then do forward the communication onto myself.
No knowledge of the order process but would expect it to be first come, first served on each item received from Italy.
No preferential treatment for me. I order and pay the exact way as all other supporters ✅
CapitalGreen
31-07-2020, 07:09 PM
KP My children's and their friends strips aren't being sent out until September. How did the club decide which 7000 would get theirs and more importantly which of us wouldn't. I presume you got yours ok?
Last part of your comment is poor, struggling to feel any sympathy for you after you come out with p!sh like that.
Scouse Hibee
31-07-2020, 07:34 PM
KP My children's and their friends strips aren't being sent out until September. How did the club decide which 7000 would get theirs and more importantly which of us wouldn't. I presume you got yours ok?
Probably first come first served, as you have no idea when KP ordered his, your presumption sounds more like an uncalled for dig.
hfc rd
31-07-2020, 08:05 PM
KP My children's and their friends strips aren't being sent out until September. How did the club decide which 7000 would get theirs and more importantly which of us wouldn't. I presume you got yours ok?
Understand your frustration but no need for the unnecessary dig at the end. KP has been an absolute excellent fans rep since his appointment.
Billy Whizz
31-07-2020, 08:06 PM
That’s more than disappointing. If you’re unhappy with the service and explanation that the clubstore (
[email protected]) then do forward the communication onto myself.
No knowledge of the order process but would expect it to be first come, first served on each item received from Italy.
No preferential treatment for me. I order and pay the exact way as all other supporters ✅
Keep up the good work KP, we all appreciate it on here
Peanut Shaz
31-07-2020, 08:09 PM
KP My children's and their friends strips aren't being sent out until September. How did the club decide which 7000 would get theirs and more importantly which of us wouldn't. I presume you got yours ok?
No need for that last sentence. Poor.
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