Festival Cup

[Hibernian32]

Does anyone remember we used to play hearts every year and it was called the festival cup? Im sure one year it was at ER then the next year at the PBS. Can anyone clarify this?

Also think it would be a good idea to kick the season off with a derby ( community shield type game ) at Murrayfield during the festival can only be a money spinner for both clubs. If there was such a game like the festval cup and I'm no just wrong why was it stopped?.

[SChibs]

Did Robbie Neilson tell you to post that?

[Hibernian32]

Did Robbie Neilson tell you to post that?
Probably

[Here’s Lucy!]

Did Robbie Neilson tell you to post that?

:confused:

Another potentially good thread ruined.

[Billy Whizz]

Does anyone remember we used to play hearts every year and it was called the festival cup? Im sure one year it was at ER then the next year at the PBS. Can anyone clarify this?

Also think it would be a good idea to kick the season off with a derby ( community shield type game ) at Murrayfield during the festival can only be a money spinner for both clubs. If there was such a game like the festval cup and I'm no just wrong why was it stopped?.

If I can remember correctly it was our young team that was playing, maybe someone can confirm

[LancashireHibby]

If I can remember correctly it was our young team that was playing, maybe someone can confirm
It began with full strength teams but gradually became fringe players after a couple of years, I think.

[Jumbo]

Does anyone remember we used to play hearts every year and it was called the festival cup? Im sure one year it was at ER then the next year at the PBS. Can anyone clarify this?

Also think it would be a good idea to kick the season off with a derby ( community shield type game ) at Murrayfield during the festival can only be a money spinner for both clubs. If there was such a game like the festval cup and I'm no just wrong why was it stopped?.

did it happen more than twice ? vaguely remember it, another of the long lost pre season competitions, the Skol trophy, the Tom Hart Cup and Whyte & Mckay trophy, Isle of Man Cup, any more ?

[bigwheel]

did it happen more than twice ? vaguely remember it, another of the long lost pre season competitions, the Skol trophy, the Tom Hart Cup and Whyte & Mckay trophy, Isle of Man Cup, any more ?

Think it was only twice...also second year didn't happen during the festival - they struggled to find a date...was September if iirc..

Both relatively first team games.....


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[heretoday]

East of Scotland Shield in the sixties. We saw some good games too. There were usually plenty of goals.

[The 90+2]

Does anyone remember we used to play hearts every year and it was called the festival cup? Im sure one year it was at ER then the next year at the PBS. Can anyone clarify this?

Also think it would be a good idea to kick the season off with a derby ( community shield type game ) at Murrayfield during the festival can only be a money spinner for both clubs. If there was such a game like the festval cup and I'm no just wrong why was it stopped?.

Was 2 years. Ended up a reserve match especially the second game as We made Europe I think. I thought it was a good idea and promoted through the actual festival and the likes of the airport, airlines trams etc would be a good source of income. I went to both games.

[The 90+2]

Think it was only twice...also second year didn't happen during the festival - they struggled to find a date...was September if iirc..

Both relatively first team games.....


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Second was reserves I’m sure.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/scot_prem/3626524.stm

[delbert]

Second was reserves I’m sure.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/scot_prem/3626524.stm

We played for the Tom Hart trophy one pre season over the course of a week at Easter Road and Tynecastle in a four team competition with Hearts, Coventry City and Man City - Coventry won it, I wonder who would come out on top now !

[SChibs]

:confused:

Another potentially good thread ruined.

It was a joke because he described it as a money spinner that's all. It's hardly going to ruin a thread

[Hibernian32]

I'm glad I wasn't just thinking it up in my head. Wonder if there is a appetite for it I told my mates they thought it never existed and said why would such a idea be thrown out. A full murrayfield plus potential TV money could be the difference to getting 1 or 2 better players over the line.

[Here’s Lucy!]

It was a joke because he described it as a money spinner that's all. It's hardly going to ruin a thread

Fair enough, apologies. :aok:

[SChibs]

Fair enough, apologies. :aok:

No problem. I probably should have made it a bit clearer

[EHZERO7]

We played for the Tom Hart trophy one pre season over the course of a week at Easter Road and Tynecastle in a four team competition with Hearts, Coventry City and Man City - Coventry won it, I wonder who would come out on top now !

That was the Skol Festival trophy that you are talking about.

Tom Hart Trophy we played Hearts one season and there was a fair bit bother after Jackie McNamara bundled in a late winner :flag:

[w pilton hibby]

I'm glad I wasn't just thinking it up in my head. Wonder if there is a appetite for it I told my mates they thought it never existed and said why would such a idea be thrown out. A full murrayfield plus potential TV money could be the difference to getting 1 or 2 better players over the line.

According to Wikipedia it only ran in 2003 and 2004. Hearts won both games.

Attendance was 10,090 at Easter Road in 2003 and 7,282 in 2004 at Tynecastle.

Think it would be a bit of a stretch to fill Murrayfield.

[The 90+2]

We played for the Tom Hart trophy one pre season over the course of a week at Easter Road and Tynecastle in a four team competition with Hearts, Coventry City and Man City - Coventry won it, I wonder who would come out on top now !

Nae idea what that was likes I was talking Bobby Williamson mate 👍

[Viva_Palmeiras]

Was going to extend to include teams from cities that Edinburgh is twinned with Munich, Florence, Nice. On a rotating basis

Kiev, Krakow, Vancouver and some Chinese city missed the cut.

[Here’s Lucy!]

No problem. I probably should have made it a bit clearer

No, I knew why you'd said it.

My fault for being arsey.

[G B Young]

Like most pre-season fixtures it was c**p and quickly scrapped. Most fans didn't see the need for yet another derby and were glad to see the back of it.

Best pre-season fixture I can remember was held away from ER in Essen back in 2005 to commemorate the 50th anniversary of Hibs becoming the first British team to play in Europe. A great away trip and one that actually had the feel of something significant about it. We beat Rot-Weiss Essen 3-0 IIRC with game viewed through an all-day drinking haze...

[Iggy Pope]

That was the Skol Festival trophy that you are talking about.

Tom Hart Trophy we played Hearts one season and there was a fair bit bother after Jackie McNamara bundled in a late winner :flag:

I think we played Dunfermline for the Tom Hart Trophy the second year but it disappeared after that.
Wonder if the HHT have the trophy?

[Iggy Pope]

Like most pre-season fixtures it was c**p and quickly scrapped. Most fans didn't see the need for yet another derby and were glad to see the back of it.

Best pre-season fixture I can remember was held away from ER in Essen back in 2005 to commemorate the 50th anniversary of Hibs becoming the first British team to play in Europe. A great away trip and one that actually had the feel of something significant about it. We beat Rot-Weiss Essen 3-0 IIRC with game viewed through an all-day drinking haze...

Great fanzone outside with a punk band playing covers on the back of a lorry. Marvellous trip. We had Ireland that pre-season too and then Dnipro. By October I was in rehab.

[Frazerbob]

I'm glad I wasn't just thinking it up in my head. Wonder if there is a appetite for it I told my mates they thought it never existed and said why would such a idea be thrown out. A full murrayfield plus potential TV money could be the difference to getting 1 or 2 better players over the line.

The games couldn’t fill half of ER or Tynie. Total waste of time. We have 4 Derbies (most) seasons as it stands. That’s more than enough.

However, we should market the club better to tourists in general.

[tamig]

I think we played Dunfermline for the Tom Hart Trophy the second year but it disappeared after that.
Wonder if the HHT have the trophy?

Think that was in 85. The night before Scotland played Australia away in the play off for the 86 World Cup. I got my nose broken in a scuffle after the game.

[ancient hibee]

The games played in a 10/12 year period by an Edinburgh Select team year about at ER and Tynecastle against an English team were excellent and raised a good bit of money for the Edinburgh Hospitals radio services which broadcast match commentaries.

[Fergos]

An Edinburgh select from Hibs, them and Meadowbank played Bayern at tiny castle in the mid 80s, sure it was listed as a Festival Cup match.

GGTTH

[Iggy Pope]

The games played in a 10/12 year period by an Edinburgh Select team year about at ER and Tynecastle against an English team were excellent and raised a good bit of money for the Edinburgh Hospitals radio services which broadcast match commentaries.

Interesting tests against sides that were giants in the English game at the time like Newcastle, Burnley and Wolves. Faced with the best of both Edinburgh giants too.
Love all the history involved in this, the programmes alone are worth the reading.

[worcesterhibby]

Pre-season Game against Hellas Verona would be awesome. Get Hendo back at ER. Market it as part of the festival. get the Leith Italian community on board. choice of Free pizza or haggis supper with your ticket.

[LaMotta]

I'm glad I wasn't just thinking it up in my head. Wonder if there is a appetite for it I told my mates they thought it never existed and said why would such a idea be thrown out. A full murrayfield plus potential TV money could be the difference to getting 1 or 2 better players over the line.

Absolutely zero chance of a full house at Murrayfield for a pre season friendly derby.

Its a game that wouldn't mean anything to anyone.

[ancient hibee]

Interesting tests against sides that were giants in the English game at the time like Newcastle, Burnley and Wolves. Faced with the best of both Edinburgh giants too.
Love all the history involved in this, the programmes alone are worth the reading.
Yes and the “home” six players often.

included a youngster.Either 58/59 it was Jim Scott who scored a fabulous goal against Newcastle when he dribbled from half way,rounded the keeper and rolled the ball in past the full backs on the line(both Irish internationals).Highlights were on Scotsport that night and they showed the goals up to 3-2 then Arthur appeared on screen and said”and Scott scored a fourth before the end”.Probably ran out of film!

[Bobo]

For anyone interested, here's the programmes from the 2 Tom Hart Memorial Trophy games and the Skol Festival Trophy Tournament as well as the Whyte and MacKay Challenge Cup game v Leeds.

There's been loads of friendlies and Testimonials over the years, I've always enjoyed the games against English & Foreign opposition.

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[Billy Whizz]

As the OP said, must’ve opportunity to do something during the Festival

[007]

It began with full strength teams but gradually became fringe players after a couple of years, I think.

Good one. Fringe players in the Festival Cup.

[Jumbo]

For anyone interested, here's the programmes from the 2 Tom Hart Memorial Trophy games and the Skol Festival Trophy Tournament as well as the Whyte and MacKay Challenge Cup game v Leeds.

There's been loads of friendlies and Testimonials over the years, I've always enjoyed the games against English & Foreign opposition.

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If I remember rightly, Jackie McNamara scored a last minute winner in first Tom Hart Trophy game

[eastterrace]

East of Scotland Shield in the sixties. We saw some good games too. There were usually plenty of goals. yes and plenty trouble , mind that lot coming around to the shed at Easter road near the end of the game and attacking us as they use to open the gates 15mins from the end. Bunch o animals

[Jumbo]

yes and plenty trouble , mind that lot coming around to the shed at Easter road near the end of the game and attacking us as they use to open the gates 15mins from the end. Bunch o animals

Remember that happening in mid seventies, bottles narrowly missing my head and ended up standing in goalmouth next to John Brough along with others to escape !

[Iggy Pope]

yes and plenty trouble , mind that lot coming around to the shed at Easter road near the end of the game and attacking us as they use to open the gates 15mins from the end. Bunch o animals

Happily the 1980s sorted that situation right out. They prefer their numbers a tad more favourable now before thinking about ‘attacking’.

[Bobo]

If I remember rightly, Jackie McNamara scored a last minute winner in first Tom Hart Trophy game

We won 1-0 but I can't remember who scored, getting auld :rolleyes::greengrin

[Onceinawhile]

Festival Cup was utter pish. 7.5k for a guff friendly and that was with prices kept really low.

[LancashireHibby]

Good one. Fringe players in the Festival Cup.
A happy accident, that one!

[tamig]

For anyone interested, here's the programmes from the 2 Tom Hart Memorial Trophy games and the Skol Festival Trophy Tournament as well as the Whyte and MacKay Challenge Cup game v Leeds.

There's been loads of friendlies and Testimonials over the years, I've always enjoyed the games against English & Foreign opposition.

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Colin Campbell took a sore one against Joe Corrigan in one of the Skol games.

[Ringothedog]

yes and plenty trouble , mind that lot coming around to the shed at Easter road near the end of the game and attacking us as they use to open the gates 15mins from the end. Bunch o animals

It was the old seated enclosure which was mostly families even back then. They weren’t that brave as all they had to do was go a further 10 yards and it would have been the old main terracing they tried to enter and if they had they would have got battered upside down. They were cowards when numbers were equal

[Speedway]

Perhaps we could re-launch the ‘Tom Hart Trophy’ this summer as the ‘Petrie Dish’ and sell merchandise like ‘Budge Fudge’ which you could buy with ‘Leann’s Loyalty Points’?

[Phil MaGlass]

I actually think we should look into a wee pre season tournament at ER with hertz, and maybe 2 foreign teams, like say, Groningen and Rot Weiss Essen.
Malmo or AEK.

[The 90+2]

Perhaps we could re-launch the ‘Tom Hart Trophy’ this summer as the ‘Petrie Dish’ and sell merchandise like ‘Budge Fudge’ which you could buy with ‘Leann’s Loyalty Points’?

The Friendly Friendly we’re all friends match?

[The 90+2]

I actually think we should look into a wee pre season tournament at ER with hertz, and maybe 2 foreign teams, like say, Groningen and Rot Weiss Essen.
Malmo or AEK.

Would be amazing. Then we all go around the grounds of the teams we played for the next 3 seasons. Novelty wouldn’t wear off that way.

Unfortunately the new league cup format has scuppered that chance.