OMG nutter

[HFC93]

Raised his hands? He’s lucky the boy stayed on his feet. If he’d made more of it the ref wouldn’t have had any choice.

Sending off a player who's defending himself against a drunk/drugged up 'fan'. Are you on the wind up?

[Danderhall Hibs]

Sending off a player who's defending himself against a drunk/drugged up 'fan'. Are you on the wind up?

Whether I am or not he raised his hands (first - not defensively) and I believe the rules say that’s a red. Even if he was defending himself a red card is the normal outcome.

[Hibbyradge]

Raised his hands? He’s lucky the boy stayed on his feet. If he’d made more of it the ref wouldn’t have had any choice.

It's no exaggeration to say that he could have been killed.

[Danderhall Hibs]

It's no exaggeration to say that he could have been killed.

I don’t think Tavernier was that aggressive tbh. Attacked the guy yes but not enough force to kill him.

[HFC93]

Whether I am or not he raised his hands (first - not defensively) and I believe the rules say that’s a red. Even if he was defending himself a red card is the normal outcome.

Embarrassing trolling

[Last Minute]

He has been named and shamed on hibs Page on FB .


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[pacoluna]

She is the appropriate authority. It's Easter Road. We have a responsibility to control our own supporters.

We don't have a responsibility to control our own supporters.

We can prevent, react, ban people and issue statements of apology.

But ultimately only strict liability would equate to having the authoritive responsibility of controlling our own fans.

[matty_f]

Whether I am or not he raised his hands (first - not defensively) and I believe the rules say that’s a red. Even if he was defending himself a red card is the normal outcome.
Don't know if anyone remembers the "you are the ref" series of cartoon strips, but they were all about the laws of the games in unusual situations, and you had to decide what you thought was the correct response, before you found out the answer.

There was definitely one that had this exact situation - a player is confronted on the field by a supporter and hits out to protect himself.

Correct response by the letter of the law in the game, is a red card to the player (I think for violent conduct).

As mental as that may seem, it is the correct action.

[cabbageandribs1875]

I see Leeann has said he'll be banned for life. At 21, that could be a long, long ban.



very unfair..imo

[Box 17]

very unfair..imo

Doubt most of us will lose any sleep if they never see that moron at ER again.

[bigwheel]

very unfair..imo

On what basis is that unfair?


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[Keith_M]

Away end, but we haven't to mention that on this thread.


Or in the newspapers.

[green day]

Doubt most of us will lose any sleep if they never see that moron at ER again.

However the truth is that life bans are only "life bans from big games" as he will probably be buying at the pods for Motherwell............................

[Keith_M]

Don't know if anyone remembers the "you are the ref" series of cartoon strips, but they were all about the laws of the games in unusual situations, and you had to decide what you thought was the correct response, before you found out the answer.

There was definitely one that had this exact situation - a player is confronted on the field by a supporter and hits out to protect himself.

Correct response by the letter of the law in the game, is a red card to the player (I think for violent conduct).

As mental as that may seem, it is the correct action.


Wow that's crazy.

I would have been happy enough if Tavernier had whacked him.

[Danderhall Hibs]

Don't know if anyone remembers the "you are the ref" series of cartoon strips, but they were all about the laws of the games in unusual situations, and you had to decide what you thought was the correct response, before you found out the answer.

There was definitely one that had this exact situation - a player is confronted on the field by a supporter and hits out to protect himself.

Correct response by the letter of the law in the game, is a red card to the player (I think for violent conduct).

As mental as that may seem, it is the correct action.

The rules are the troll it seems.

[Moulin Yarns]

Jim Spence tweet on the incident


Young Mr Tavernier’s situation last night reminded me of my chum’s unfortunate incident at B&Q, when the assistant asked him if he wanted decking. Fortunately my chum got the first punch in, but it just shows you can never be too careful https://abs.twimg.com/emoji/v2/72x72/1f914.png

[Box 17]

However the truth is that life bans are only "life bans from big games" as he will probably be buying at the pods for Motherwell............................

You're right. Banning somebody is one thing. Enforcing the ban is quite another.

[Allant1981]

Raised his hands? He’s lucky the boy stayed on his feet. If he’d made more of it the ref wouldn’t have had any choice.

Tavernier is not at fault here, he done the right thing and in no way should he have seen a red card

[Box 17]

Tavernier is not at fault here, he done the right thing and in no way should he have seen a red card

Agreed. To even suggest Tavernier is in any way to blame or should be punished is ludicrous and only an attempt to distract from the actions of our so-called fan.

[Allant1981]

very unfair..imo

Why? The guy is going to cost the club money, we dont need these types at ER

[ancient hibee]

The rules are the troll it seems.
How many decades ago were these cartoon strips.I suspect that things have changed since then.

[Danderhall Hibs]

How many decades ago were these cartoon strips.I suspect that things have changed since then.

I don’t recall the rules changing to say you can raise your hands. Happy for someone to confirm though.

Last I remember was Cantona getting a 9 month ban for it.

[Broken Gnome]

I don’t recall the rules changing to say you can raise your hands. Happy for someone to confirm though.

Last I remember was Cantona getting a 9 month ban for it.

What did Riordan get at Tynecastle?

[Danderhall Hibs]

Agreed. To even suggest Tavernier is in any way to blame or should be punished is ludicrous and only an attempt to distract from the actions of our so-called fan.

He should’ve stepped away and made the guy look as stupid as he is, instead he chose to be aggressive. Could’ve started a riot.

[bigwheel]

I don’t recall the rules changing to say you can raise your hands. Happy for someone to confirm though.

Last I remember was Cantona getting a 9 month ban for it.

"Laws" Danderhall..Laws not rules. [emoji6][emoji106]


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[ancient hibee]

I don’t recall the rules changing to say you can raise your hands. Happy for someone to confirm though.

Last I remember was Cantona getting a 9 month ban for it.
Cantona leapt into the crowd.The complete opposite of last night.However I’ll agree with you if you can find a law dealing with a supporter approaching a player on the field.

[Danderhall Hibs]

What did Riordan get at Tynecastle?
Good question - I can’t remember but I don’t think anything. Maybe one for the compliance officer.

What did the “fan” get?

[Cool_Hand_Luke]

He should’ve stepped away and made the guy look as stupid as he is, instead he chose to be aggressive. Could’ve started a riot.

While I wouldn't have agreed with a red card (would have laughed if it happened though :greengrin) the ref would have been within his rights to take action against him....anyone remember this red card :greengrin

https://youtu.be/-26KjYWNNCE

[Broken Gnome]

Good question - I can’t remember but I don’t think anything. Maybe one for the compliance officer.

What did the “fan” get?

No idea about the fan, but wasn't even a hint of Riordan getting any grief. Pretty sure a handoff from a player to a pitch invader isn't something that is worth pursuing for any punishment...

[silverhibee]

The rules are the troll it seems.

That's why the Blackpool goalie seen red the other night. :agree:

[Killiehibbie]

No idea about the fan, but wasn't even a hint of Riordan getting any grief. Pretty sure a handoff from a player to a pitch invader isn't something that is worth pursuing for any punishment...
What seems common sense to us might not be seen as such in law. Always better to avoid confrontation by moving in the opposite direction, not as if the hun was cornered.

[hibsbollah]

I see Leeann has said he'll be banned for life. At 21, that could be a long, long ban.

Depends if he sorts himself out. Didn't have the look of someone who is in a good state of health. Palour of a jakey.

[matty_f]

Agreed. To even suggest Tavernier is in any way to blame or should be punished is ludicrous and only an attempt to distract from the actions of our so-called fan.

It's not meant as distraction, it's just a quirk of the rules and a bit of light relief from a touchy subject.

[matty_f]

How many decades ago were these cartoon strips.I suspect that things have changed since then.

They've not. A player was sent off for it recently. The ref had no choice unfortunately.

[Danderhall Hibs]

It's not meant as distraction, it's just a quirk of the rules and a bit of light relief from a touchy subject.

:agree: Just an attempt to move some folk from the moral high ground.

If I was in the mood I’d also argue the boy didn’t invade the pitch.

[jacomo]

very unfair..imo


Sometimes people can’t be protected from their own idiocy.

[pontius pilate]

Reading through this and tin hat firmly on here. If an opposing fan had ran onto the pitch and done that to one of our players we would be shouting from the rooftops. Yet a supposed hibs fan does it and some on here blame travernier and some are saying a lifetime ban is harsh or the what aboutery of the orcs last night. We laugh and take the piss out of certain clubs about their fans behaviour and their what aboutery yet deem it fine to do it. Me personally after everything over the last 2 weeks with the 2 Glasgow teams it is unacceptable behaviour from so called fans and I hope both get life time bans. We as a club don't need or want that type of behaviour.

GGTTH

[Lago]

Reading through this and tin hat firmly on here. If an opposing fan had ran onto the pitch and done that to one of our players we would be shouting from the rooftops. Yet a supposed hibs fan does it and some on here blame travernier and some are saying a lifetime ban is harsh or the what aboutery of the orcs last night. We laugh and take the piss out of certain clubs about their fans behaviour and their what aboutery yet deem it fine to do it. Me personally after everything over the last 2 weeks with the 2 Glasgow teams it is unacceptable behaviour from so called fans and I hope both get life time bans. We as a club don't need or want that type of behaviour.

GGTTH
At last, sense.
:top marks

[MWHIBBIES]

A lifetime ban isn't enough for this fanny. Should be banned from all grounds in the UK for life and be prosecuted to the full extent. An absolute stain on our club

[where'stheslope]

No one seems to think that the referee had a choice to make, send off Tavernier, do nothing or pull the plug on the game!!!
Sending off Tavernier could have caused more trouble, doing nothing, which he did, or pulling all the players off the pitch as he felt the stadium was unsafe!!!
Glad he took what I think was the best decision, but the other alternatives could easily have happened after last week!!!!!

[GreenCastle]

Won’t be the last person to invade the pitch.

Even the guy who ran on from the Rangers stand at Inrox to confront Scott Brown - not stopped Rangers fans invading the pitch after they score at some stadiums this season.

Look forward to hearing how much damage was caused to the South Stand.

Not saying it wouldn’t have happened but less away fans would be a less poisonous atmosphere at the ground and surrounding streets. We took the ££ and will now have to pay ££ for the fine for invading the pitch. A week after paying for new CCTV.

Also noticed a hun fan was escorted out at half time also.

[killie-hibby]

A lifetime ban isn't enough for this fanny. Should be banned from all grounds in the UK for life and be prosecuted to the full extent. An absolute stain on our club


Agree 100%

[Sir David Gray]

Won’t be the last person to invade the pitch.

Even the guy who ran on from the Rangers stand at Inrox to confront Scott Brown - not stopped Rangers fans invading the pitch after they score at some stadiums this season.

Look forward to hearing how much damage was caused to the South Stand.

Not saying it wouldn’t have happened but less away fans would be a less poisonous atmosphere at the ground and surrounding streets. We took the ££ and will now have to pay ££ for the fine for invading the pitch. A week after paying for new CCTV.

Also noticed a hun fan was escorted out at half time also.

How will we have to pay a fine for the guy coming onto the pitch?

We don't have strict liability so I don't see how Hibs can be punished.

[GreenCastle]

How will we have to pay a fine for the guy coming onto the pitch?

We don't have strict liability so I don't see how Hibs can be punished.

If no fines then the authorities really need to step up and introduce fines otherwise it will keep happening - fans entering the field of play at any time.

[overdrive]

Was Stack sent off when he took on the pitch invaders in the Netherlands?

I'm of the opinion that there is no way you can say the guy was ”attacking” Tavernier but he shouldn't be on the pitch and was close enough to Tavernier to justify him taking action. He should also be banned. And whilst we are at it, put in some sort of drug rehabilitation programme and sent to a dentist.

[chasitup]

That's why the Blackpool goalie seen red the other night. :agree:

It was the Accrington Stanley goalkeeper and he threw a bottle back into the crowd.

[Sir David Gray]

If no fines then the authorities really need to step up and introduce fines otherwise it will keep happening - fans entering the field of play at any time.

You can only fine someone if they are guilty of doing something wrong or failing in their responsibilities. What more could Hibs have done as a club to prevent what happened last night?

[weecounty hibby]

very unfair..imo

Right decision. Sends out a message to any one else who wants to do **** like that. The bottle thrower if found should get the same

[goosefat]

He should’ve stepped away and made the guy look as stupid as he is, instead he chose to be aggressive. Could’ve started a riot.

The ‘riot’ would still have been only the fault of the first helmet that came on and any other amoebas that followed him.

[Hibbyradge]

We don't have a responsibility to control our own supporters.

We can prevent, react, ban people and issue statements of apology.

But ultimately only strict liability would equate to having the authoritive responsibility of controlling our own fans.

Clubs get fined for failure to control their own supporters.

[Danderhall Hibs]

The ‘riot’ would still have been only the fault of the first helmet that came on and any other amoebas that followed him.

Do you apply that logic to 21/5/16 as well? I’ve read many on here say it wasn’t our fault.

[goosefat]

Do you apply that logic to 21/5/16 as well? I’ve read many on here say it wasn’t our fault.

You can celebrate or get angry and not make what is quite a significant effort to go on to the park. What happens after that would not have happened if you just stayed in the stand. It’s really, really simple.

Personal responsibility.

[Danderhall Hibs]

You can celebrate or get angry and not make what is quite a significant effort to go on to the park. What happens after that would not have happened if you just stayed in the stand. It’s really, really simple.

Personal responsibility.

I agree with this. Many on here don’t.

[Tornadoes70]

You can celebrate or get angry and not make what is quite a significant effort to go on to the park. What happens after that would not have happened if you just stayed in the stand. It’s really, really simple.

Personal responsibility.

There were grown men/fathers/grandfathers/mothers/grandmothers on the field of play at the end of that glorious day in 2016.

After the bs of 2012 post the already bankrupt yams 'win' we can be excused for the undoubted exuberance and elation of our untainted fairly won Scottish Cup win 2016.

I stayed in the Main stand but don't for a second judge our supporters who took to the field in our fair and square won greatest game in history ever.

Mon the Cabbage!!!

[WeeRussell]

Won’t be the last person to invade the pitch.

Even the guy who ran on from the Rangers stand at Inrox to confront Scott Brown - not stopped Rangers fans invading the pitch after they score at some stadiums this season.

Look forward to hearing how much damage was caused to the South Stand.

Not saying it wouldn’t have happened but less away fans would be a less poisonous atmosphere at the ground and surrounding streets. We took the ££ and will now have to pay ££ for the fine for invading the pitch. A week after paying for new CCTV.

Also noticed a hun fan was escorted out at half time also.

As true as most of your points may be. They’re largely irrelevant and very much (popular word right now) whataboutery.

We know what those ****bags are like. But this was a fanny in our support whose behaviour is inexcusable