Throw-ins

[elevengoats]

Perhaps I'm paying too much emphasis to this but does anyone else feel we are quite poor from throw-ins? Limited movement, regularly losing the ball etc. Or do you think we are as good / poor as most other teams? I'm not talking about today's game against Celtic btw (even though I did see more examples of this today). More of a recurring theme over the whole season.

[BoyledEgg]

Scored from one against Dundee but yes, they are tragic, tonight especially.

[Leith Green]

Perhaps I'm paying too much emphasis to this but does anyone else feel we are quite poor from throw-ins? Limited movement, regularly losing the ball etc. Or do you think we are as good / poor as most other teams? I'm not talking about today's game against Celtic btw (even though I did see more examples of this today). More of a recurring theme over the whole season.



We are absolutely horrendous at taking throw ins for some reason. Have been for ages.

[vahibbie]

I wouldn't be surprised if we won the ball more from opponents throw ins than our own.
Been horrendous for ages.

[Duncan Smith]

Perhaps I'm paying too much emphasis to this but does anyone else feel we are quite poor from throw-ins? Limited movement, regularly losing the ball etc. Or do you think we are as good / poor as most other teams? I'm not talking about today's game against Celtic btw (even though I did see more examples of this today). More of a recurring theme over the whole season.

This has been a problem since Alex Miller days!!

[Famousfivehh]

We are poor at throw ins. Take too long and not enough movement.

[kaimendhibs]

Been like this for years

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[hibsbollah]

I vaguely recall this being brought up before at some point:greengrin

[Forza Fred]

Perhaps I'm paying too much emphasis to this but does anyone else feel we are quite poor from throw-ins? Limited movement, regularly losing the ball etc. Or do you think we are as good / poor as most other teams? I'm not talking about today's game against Celtic btw (even though I did see more examples of this today). More of a recurring theme over the whole season.

I think you are absolutely right!

I was hoping Hecky would sort out our throw ins...evidently he hasn’t had time to work on them yet.

There were a couple today where the thrower had nobody to throw them to...

[BoomtownHibees]

I think you are absolutely right!

I was hoping Hecky would sort out our throw ins...evidently he hasn’t had time to work on them yet.

There were a couple today where the thrower had nobody to throw them to...

I agree with that to a point but sometimes the thrower needs to be quicker when someone does make a bit of space and understand that good players are happy to take the ball in to feet, even if there is an opposing player close to them

[Lang Toun hibby]

One of my biggest bugbears. We have apparently numerous coaches and video analysis but throw ins continue to be rubbish. This worries me as if they cannot pick up on these then what else are they missing. No movement and then both Gray and Stevenson throw high balls usually to Flo who can't jump!.

[Smartie]

I thought they were a new level of horrendous tonight.

It may well have been a deliberate tactic by Celtic to flood the area with players but we looked like we lacked space and numbers every time we had the ball out wide and it didn't look anything like as tough for them when they had a throw.

We had to work very hard to keep possession from them, whereas Celtic managed it pretty effortlessly.

It didn't help that on some of the few occasions that we had a man in space we chose not to give him the ball.

[coco22]

Always been a 50/50 chance that we’ll give away possession from a throw in 😱Lennon masked this with long throw ins up the line. Quick and accurate restarts should be a priority given the amount of times we need to do this in a game. Similarly, they can be well defended but surely proper coaching in this area must have an impact - am certain Heckingbottom has mentioned this already?

[houstonhibbee]

Always been a 50/50 chance that we’ll give away possession from a throw in 😱Lennon masked this with long throw ins up the line. Quick and accurate restarts should be a priority given the amount of times we need to do this in a game. Similarly, they can be well defended but surely proper coaching in this area must have an impact - am certain Heckingbottom has mentioned this already?
I think we lack from a lot of movement off the ball all over the pitch - throw ins just highlights the issue

[Lancs Harp]

I read an article from Pep about throw ins. In Spain its simple you are taught if your marker is directly behind you the ball gets thrown to your feet. If your marker is to the right, you throw it to the left of the recipient, and likewise if the marker is to the left of the recipient you throw it to his right. Football is so often made over complicated.

[HibeeHibernian4]

Sorry, am I the only one who’s remembering our second at Dens last week? I appreciate the throw ins weren’t good tonight, but to say Heckingbottom hasn’t had time to work on them yet is demonstrably untrue.

[lyonhibs]

This is definitely the first time this particular topic has been brought to light.....

[HappyAsHellas]

Let's face it, we've been horrendous at throw ins since we had Eric Schaedler.

[LustForLeith]

I think you are absolutely right!

I was hoping Hecky would sort out our throw ins...evidently he hasn’t had time to work on them yet.

There were a couple today where the thrower had nobody to throw them to...

I’ve been saying this for awhile. We get a throw in, someone goes to take it and there’s no one to throw it to. Sometimes it’s like school football where our players stand next to an opponent so they don’t get the ball.

[truehibernian]

It is (and should always be treated as) a set piece - which means it should be worked on at the training ground day in day out, much like corners and set ups, and free kicks.

What baffles me, and it's not just Hibs, is the age players take to take them - circulate the ball quickly, even if that means throwing back to a defender to start from the back again, rather than up the line taking that chance of losing possession and the thrower being out of position temporarily. Often I think the fans dictate that though as there is always groans and moans if a player chooses to throw back to a defender instead of launching it up field. Lewis is really indecisive at throws which irks me.

[BlackSheep]

It is (and should always be treated as) a set piece - which means it should be worked on at the training ground day in day out, much like corners and set ups, and free kicks.

What baffles me, and it's not just Hibs, is the age players take to take them - circulate the ball quickly, even if that means throwing back to a defender to start from the back again, rather than up the line taking that chance of losing possession and the thrower being out of position temporarily. Often I think the fans dictate that though as there is always groans and moans if a player chooses to throw back to a defender instead of launching it up field. Lewis is really indecisive at throws which irks me.

Gray is also as indecisive.... it’s one of my biggest bug bears, we take so long that the opposition gets time to setup and man to man marking happens and slows the whole game down.... and yes if we are attacking and the thrower takes too long then throws it backwards it’s frustrating for everyone! When I played we worked on getting the all back into play as quickly but as efficiently as possible, watching professionals make a meal of what should be a simple task really annoys me.

What also annoys me is when the players allow the ball to run for a throw or goal kick when there’s no opposing player pressing for the ball... again it slows the game right down and allows the opposition to reset. This mentality may be fine for teams that play out from the back and can turn just about anything into a goalscroing chance but that’s just not our greatest strength right now.

[Northern Hibby]

Noticed celtic mostly went down the pitch from throw-ins, basically the throw-in equivalent of playing out from the back, we always try go forward.

[Colr]

We are absolutely horrendous at taking throw ins for some reason. Have been for ages.

Decades, in fact

[Paisley Hibby]

Perhaps I'm paying too much emphasis to this but does anyone else feel we are quite poor from throw-ins? Limited movement, regularly losing the ball etc. Or do you think we are as good / poor as most other teams? I'm not talking about today's game against Celtic btw (even though I did see more examples of this today). More of a recurring theme over the whole season.

It's our trade mark. Rubbish at corners, always have been.

[BoomtownHibees]

It's our trade mark. Rubbish at corners, always have been.

Apart from a certain cup final where an excellent quick throw and 2 expertly executed corners gave us the best day of our lives. Since then? Pish!!

[eastcoasthibby]

I wouldn't be surprised if we won the ball more from opponents throw ins than our own.
Been horrendous for ages.

Horrendous ...especily with lewis taking them its like his passing,he never takes it when the player is moving into a position, he always waits til they are there and having had to stop there movement, its as though he needs to find a static target than to read the movement a play the ball in the place the player is going to ...I dont know how he has got away with it with every manager he's played under and now David Gray does the same, its a consistent complaint in forums, but it will never improve as it replicates the speed of thought an awareness of those taking them.

[Hermit Crab]

Stevenson taking throws is just handing over possession to the position.

[PeeJay]

Throw ins are not the only problem, whereby the thrower's main problem is that no-one seems to want the ball - crosses into the box are another issue - Stevenson and Gray constantly pump high crosses aimlessly into the box that have no pace on them. Our goalie and our back four constantly kick the ball up the park and 9 times out of 10 the opponents gain possession - all simple things that can be worked on at the training ground. Then there is the inability of our back four to pass a ball to a team mate ... there's a long list of things that are wrong really ... :greengrin

[blackpoolhibs]

Are their any teams that are good at throw ins? :confused:

[Smartie]

Are their any teams that are good at throw ins? :confused:

You could notice a big difference between the 2 teams on Saturday.

I'm convinced there was some sort of deliberate ploy from Celtic to swarm us out and ensure we didn't ever retain possession.

[danhibees1875]

I'm convinced it must be something that you only notice when they go wrong and so subconsiouly believe they are worse than they are - aided by the fact it should be a simple set play to throw the ball at a team mate, so when it goes wrong it's noticeable. The alternative is that we've been shocking at them for as long as I can remember and under any number of managers/coaches.

Saying that there is the odd example of goals I can remember coming from them - Dundee recently, St Mirren (I think) at Easter Road to equalise when they had an injury, and the build up to the corner in the Scottish cup final. Noteably they were all examples of quick throw-ins before the opposition had a chance to mark up/get back.

[FilipinoHibs]

You could notice a big difference between the 2 teams on Saturday.

I'm convinced there was some sort of deliberate ploy from Celtic to swarm us out and ensure we didn't ever retain possession.
Yes I thought they closed us down on throw ins. Pet hate of the Heck's is giving away pocession at them. Watched them closely on Saturday and there was a small improvement. Better movement off the ball but not enough players offering themselves. That is how you get a player in space. They have been shocking for years. Seemingly Milligan a long throw specialist. Could use him to reach players further away in space.