Tommy Wright

[SonOfDavidFrancey]

Curmudgeonly roaster.

[HibeeHibernian4]

Sure he was greeting about Hendo in the League Cup semi final a few years back too?

[matty_f]

Lucky none of his players do anything unsporting like mucking about with penalty spots or trying to wind up a penalty taker.

And they never ever go down easily.

[Libby Hibby]

He’s bitter tonight.

[gaz1875]

He needs to look at his own players first before he accuses others of diving.

[Callum_62]

pretty sure Tony Watts was hardly the foul of the century for Slivkas 2nd booking

[007]

pretty sure Tony Watts was hardly the foul of the century for Slivkas 2nd booking

Exactly, didn't hear Weight mention that in his interview. Funny that.

[Hermit Crab]

pretty sure Tony Watts was hardly the foul of the century for Slivkas 2nd booking


C'mon, Slivka had already gotten away with a foul on the touchline that could easily have been a 2nd yellow. He made it easy for the ref.

[Stevie Reid]

Really soft pen for us but couldn’t give a ****. Plenty bad ones go against us.

[HoboHarry]

Greetin faced Kent.....

[murray26]

C'mon, Slivka had already gotten away with a foul on the touchline that could easily have been a 2nd yellow. He made it easy for the ref.


It was never ever a 2nd yellow card regardless of what had happened before

[BegbieHSC]

Wright on Kamberi below - unprofessional, disgraceful comments from a manger. Who is he to question Kamberi’s personal character??

"I’d say I would be embarrassed for the lad but maybe not because I’m not sure what kind of character he is.”

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/3935358/hibs-florian-kamberi-conman-st-johnstone-tommy-wright/ (https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/3935358/hibs-florian-kamberi-conman-st-johnstone-tommy-wright/)

[Callum_62]

C'mon, Slivka had already gotten away with a foul on the touchline that could easily have been a 2nd yellow. He made it easy for the ref.

Thats should have been his 2nd yellow - the one he eventually got watt just throws himself down

I was surprised we didnt sub Slivka after he got away with one

[HoboHarry]

Thats should have been his 2nd yellow - the one he eventually got watt just throws himself down

I was surprised we didnt sub Slivka after he got away with one
Didn't need to. The Heckmeister knew we only needed 10 men to beat that mob :greengrin

[wookie70]

Wright on Kamberi below - unprofessional, disgraceful comments from a manger. Who is he to question Kamberi’s personal character??

"I’d say I would be embarrassed for the lad but maybe not because I’m not sure what kind of character he is.”

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/3935358/hibs-florian-kamberi-conman-st-johnstone-tommy-wright/ (https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/3935358/hibs-florian-kamberi-conman-st-johnstone-tommy-wright/)

Is Wright not a golfing mate of Lennon. Might explain his OTT comment where Kamberi is concerned. Slivkas was a terrible dive but there was plenty contact on Flo even though he made the most of it and a good deal more contact than sent Watt tumbling. Glass houses and all that.

[Sir David Gray]

Nae luck, I have no sympathy as it's swings and roundabouts. I'm sure we'll be on the wrong end of a decision soon enough.

[Cameron1875]

Raging that his mate got binned by Hibs just like the seethe that came from Sutton, Douglas, and Leckie.
GIRUY and mon the Hibs.

[SquashedFrogg]

C'mon, Slivka had already gotten away with a foul on the touchline that could easily have been a 2nd yellow. He made it easy for the ref.

You can't book someone for a previous foul?

[Shrekko]

Watt’s dive was the most embarrassing moment of the game. Hibs pen was soft but Wright’s comments are a disgrace. Very few forward players wouldn’t go down.

[500miles]

I feel like I'm going mental, because Shaughnessy blatantly shoves him for absolutely no reason and Craig comes lumbering in like a pished pensioner across a busy dance floor. It's not brutal, but it's clumsy and a foul all day long.

[hibsboy69]

It was never a pen

However Wright would be wise to remember (in the interests of fairness) :-

1. Tony Watt's "ghost foul" vs Hearts when he won a pen with nobody near him

2. Tony Watt deliberately getting a fellow pro sent off tonight by just falling to the ground

What goes around Tommy ! :na na:

[hulk]

Wright is an ungracious twat and should shut his trap. Craig was stupid putting in the tackle and as far as I can see contact was made and Flo went down. Soft, yes but his comments are out of order and he shouldn’t be allowed to call players a cheat without being brought to account. When he watches it back will he retract his comment and apologise to Flo - will he ***** as he’s a miserable moaning faced arse.

[Billy Whizz]

St Johnstone are just a mini Aberdeen, foul hoofball and delaying tactics

[Danderhall Hibs]

Watt’s dive was the most embarrassing moment of the game. Hibs pen was soft but Wright’s comments are a disgrace. Very few forward players wouldn’t go down.

Which one? He crumbled when Slivka breathed on him but also took a tumble when Stevenson went shoulder to shoulder with him.

[DetroitHibs]

Watched on Hibs TV and from first view even there commentator thought it was a penalty, albeit soft. After 3-4 replays he changed his mind. Was a VERY soft pen, but the ref gets one look at it.

[04Sauzee]

Did Tommy Wright ever comment on this penalty?


https://twitter.com/BBCSportScot/status/1070698377137020928?s=19

[angus hibby]

And some wanted Wright as our manager......

The penalty was soft but I think Shaughnessy had a hold of Kamberi initially, which could have potentially been a soft pen too. Slivka red card very soft too and was the classic “even things up” decision,

[04Sauzee]

Looking forward to trial by sportscene shortly

[The 90+2]

Dear Thomas giruy.

[hibeerealist]

Wright on Kamberi below - unprofessional, disgraceful comments from a manger. Who is he to question Kamberi’s personal character??

"I’d say I would be embarrassed for the lad but maybe not because I’m not sure what kind of character he is.”

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/3935358/hibs-florian-kamberi-conman-st-johnstone-tommy-wright/ (https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/3935358/hibs-florian-kamberi-conman-st-johnstone-tommy-wright/)


He is a Fud, never hear a peep when his players are at it complete fanny !!!

[givescotlandfreedom]

I mind they got away with murder against us last season when John McGinn was assaulted and Marciano was sent off for us. He didn't seem to mind too much then so stuff him.

[Carheenlea]

He should be more worried about his players slicing the ball out the park in comedic fashion like they did on numerous occasions in the second half.

[davhibby]

It's soft but so was the second yellow for Slivka so it all evens itself out

[poolman]

Must have been the same 40 ton truck that sent the guy over at Slivkas 2nd booking

[Baader]

Good manager but an absolute clown of a man. If he's angry then good.

[Jim44]

I’d say I would be embarrassed for their manager but maybe not because I’m not sure what kind of character he is.

[Spike Mandela]

No such thing as a soft or indeed a hard penalty. It either is or isn’t a penalty. On this occasion I agree with the ref and think it was a penalty.

[joebakerforever]

Looking forward to trial by sportscene shortly

Stewart confirmed although soft, was correct as Craig seemed to fall into Kamberi, thereby making contact.

[lapsedhibee]

Stewart confirmed although soft, was correct as Craig seemed to fall into Kamberi, thereby making contact.
What law is it that makes it clear that touching another player is a foul? I can never find it when I look. :dunno:

[Bostonhibby]

Could he fill the doctor football role when Levein sacks himself?



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[Pretty Boy]

He's always been a greetin faced twat. His team are a horrible to watch as well, stuffy and then some.

Delighted he never got near the Hibs job.

[Coco Bryce]

And some people were wanting him as our new Head coach.

[NORTHERNHIBBY]

Frustration from a manager who watched his side chuck three points.

[bingo70]

And some people were wanting him as our new Head coach.

Tbf he’s done an excellent job at St Johnstone.

I think people were basing their opinion on the job he’s done rather than his post match interview a few minutes after he’s lost a tight game and his side lost a soft penalty.

His name also mainly came up when people were being pushed for suggestions of managers who would do better than Lennon and we didn’t know if the likes of Heckingbottom would be an option so had to pick names that were known.

[Diclonius]

Dear Tommy Wright,

WWWWWWWWWWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYY YYY

[TheMentalHibees]

Kamberi had their players thoroughly wound up. He won a free kick in the second half and Craig was going off his nut at the ref, then turned to do the same to Flo who was lying on the ground blowing him kisses. Brilliant stuff.

Also how Wright has seen the foul for the pen from 30 yards away through 6 or 7 bodies I have no idea. Sour grapes methinks.


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[Borderhibbie76]

Surely tho action needs to be taken against Wright for these comments...he's basically accusing Flo of cheating??

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[Since452]

Probably wasn't a penalty but Liam Craig put himself in that situation and gave the referee a decision to make. Tommy Wright is hurting because his team lost against 10 men that's all.

[wookie70]

Kamberi had their players thoroughly wound up. He won a free kick in the second half and Craig was going off his nut at the ref, then turned to do the same to Flo who was lying on the ground blowing him kisses. Brilliant stuff.

Also how Wright has seen the foul for the pen from 30 yards away through 6 or 7 bodies I have no idea. Sour grapes methinks.


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Craig was going nuts at a clear foul.

[green day]

Craig was going nuts at a clear foul.

His head had gone after the penalty, as had a lot of his team mates.

St J lost that match due to poor discipline, thats Wrights fault and he is deflecting.

[Dublin07]

I thought at the time it was a penalty and watching the highlights still think so. Liam Craig in making a stupid foul and then shouting at the ref shock!
Also their player must have been hit by a sniper for the red card. Slivka put a hand on his shoulder and he falls over. That's not even a foul.
Saints should sign a rugby number 10 as they think booting it over a defence into the corner is an effective tactic. Hoof, foul, moan repeat should be on their shirts.

[Peevemor]

Flo was shoved in the back by Shaughnessy and bumped into by Craig at the same time - 2 "challenges" nowhere near the ball.

OK, Flo could probably have tried to push back and stay on his feet, by why should he?

I hope Wright apologises but won't hold my breath.

[Carheenlea]

Flo was shoved in the back by Shaughnessy and bumped into by Craig at the same time - 2 "challenges" nowhere near the ball.

OK, Flo could probably have tried to push back and stay on his feet, by why should he?

I hope Wright apologises but won't hold my breath.

Spot on. Still a softish award, but won’t be in the top 20 of soft awards this season.

[Green_one]

Well, at least he is not bitter. Oh wait...

Team is nose diving in the league. More concerned about Motherwell than SJ

Sign of him being under pressure? Failing to get top 6 again. Oops

[Since452]

Well, at least he is not bitter. Oh wait...

Team is nose diving in the league. More concerned about Motherwell than SJ

Sign of him being under pressure? Failing to get top 6 again. Oops

Survival is probably the target for St Johnstone every season. They're an extremely well run club on a tiny budget. Probably on a par with Hamiltons.

[emerald green]

Nae luck, I have no sympathy as it's swings and roundabouts. I'm sure we'll be on the wrong end of a decision soon enough.

Probably on Saturday. Watch Collum.

[Future17]

C'mon, Slivka had already gotten away with a foul on the touchline that could easily have been a 2nd yellow. He made it easy for the ref.

What's your point here? That the second yellow was for persistent fouling after two tackles?

[hibbymac]

Flo was shoved in the back by Shaughnessy and bumped into by Craig at the same time - 2 "challenges" nowhere near the ball.

OK, Flo could probably have tried to push back and stay on his feet, by why should he?

I hope Wright apologises but won't hold my breath.

:agree: totally agree, Wright said in the interview that it looked like Kamberi had been hit by a 40 foot truck, .. wonder what size of truck he thought hit watt?? after Slivka tapped him on the shoulder.

[Peevemor]

Slivka could already have been off, and whether the St Johnstone player went down too easily for the second yellow is irrelevant. Slivka give him a very deliberate (and bizarre) slap/shove on the back as he was running. I've no idea what he had in mind, but he should be ripped a new one for his stupidity.

[Hibbyradge]

I hope no-one defending that penalty will be complaining when Hibs get a similar one against us.

Kamberi was waiting for contact, which in itself is not a foul, and went down with an impressive twirl. He wasn't fouled and he had no need to fall over.

It wasn't a soft penalty. It was simulation.

Every week on here we have people posting about how outrageous a penalty decision was for one team or another, calling the player who went down a cheat.

Are they only cheats if they play for our opponents?

[Hibbyradge]

Slivka could already have been off, and whether the St Johnstone player went down too easily for the second yellow is irrelevant. Slivka give him a very deliberate (and bizarre) slap/shove on the back as he was running. I've no idea what he had in mind, but he should be ripped a new one for his stupidity.

He should be fined for the first booking. Blatant cheating which went wrong.

Why don't players get embarrassed when they get caught?

[emerald green]

I hope no-one defending that penalty will be complaining when Hibs get a similar one against us.

Kamberi was waiting for contact, which in itself is not a foul, and went down with an impressive twirl. He wasn't fouled and he had no need to fall over.

It wasn't a soft penalty. It was simulation.

Every week on here we have people posting about how outrageous a penalty decision was for one team or another, calling the player who went down a cheat.

Are they only cheats if they play for our opponents?

Hibs head coach seemed to think it was a penalty.

[Hibbyradge]

Hibs head coach seemed to think it was a penalty.

He's not Neil Lennon. He's not going to criticise Flo in public, thankfully.

[WestCoastHibby]

Surely tho action needs to be taken against Wright for these comments...he's basically accusing Flo of cheating??

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What's the point? Total whataboutery and its my ball yer no playin attitude.
He's lost a game , he's in the huff, we won, we go home happy.
Move on to the next game.
People have to over analyse every minute detail. Get's right on ma moobs

[emerald green]

He's not Neil Lennon. He's not going to criticise Flo in public, thankfully.

I don't recall ever hearing any manager/coach, at any club, calling one of his own players a cheat after that player had gained his team a penalty.

Some may sometimes go as far as saying "it was soft", but that's about it.

[Hibbyradge]

I don't recall ever hearing any manager/coach, at any club, calling one of his own players a cheat after that player had gained his team a penalty.

Some may sometimes go as far as saying "it was soft", but that's about it.

Exactly.

It might be refreshing if one did, but it'll never happen.

[emerald green]

Exactly.

It might be refreshing if one did, but it'll never happen.

I agree that's never going to happen.

By the way, I'm not suggesting Flo "dived" last night. It looked like one of those situations where it's sometimes given, and sometimes it's not. A judgement call by the referee basically.

[BoomtownHibees]

Slivka could already have been off, and whether the St Johnstone player went down too easily for the second yellow is irrelevant. Slivka give him a very deliberate (and bizarre) slap/shove on the back as he was running. I've no idea what he had in mind, but he should be ripped a new one for his stupidity.

Steady ffs

[BoomtownHibees]

I hope no-one defending that penalty will be complaining when Hibs get a similar one against us.

Kamberi was waiting for contact, which in itself is not a foul, and went down with an impressive twirl. He wasn't fouled and he had no need to fall over.

It wasn't a soft penalty. It was simulation.

Every week on here we have people posting about how outrageous a penalty decision was for one team or another, calling the player who went down a cheat.

Are they only cheats if they play for our opponents?

I thought it was a pen

[BullsCloseHibs]

Curmudgeonly roaster.


Tommy Wright with the drinkers nose

[Peevemor]

Steady ffs

Why?

He was on a booking and a last warning. Why did he raise his hand to hit/push the boy's back like that when he was running? That's sheer stupidity IMO (and for what it's worth I like Slivka as much as anyone else).

[heretoday]

Poor old Tommy. We've all heard it before.

It's swings and roundabouts and you know the flipping score.

[BoomtownHibees]

Why?

He was on a booking and a last warning. Why did he raise his hand to hit/push the boy's back like that when he was running? That's sheer stupidity IMO (and for what it's worth I like Slivka as much as anyone else).

If you think that’s a booking then it’s mental. He brushed his hand on Watt’s back, nothing more. He was lucky to get away with one before that but the one on Watt is never a booking in a million years

[Peevemor]

If you think that’s a booking then it’s mental. He brushed his hand on Watt’s back, nothing more. He was lucky to get away with one before that but the one on Watt is never a booking in a million years

He raised his hand in a deliberate gesture and made contact with the guy's back (who then falls down like a sack of tatties). I can't remember where the referee was, but if he was say 15-20 yds away and running himself, it'd be difficult for him to know how much contact was made.

I don't see that the ref had a choice.

[Winston Ingram]

His style of football is straight out of Terry Butcher's ICT handbook. Launch it into the corners at every opportunity and when you don't have the ball, boot the crap out of your opponent.

[vuefrom1875]

His style of football is straight out of Terry Butcher's ICT handbook. Launch it into the corners at every opportunity and when you don't have the ball, boot the crap out of your opponent.

Sheep in disguise.

[Pretty Boy]

I don't recall ever hearing any manager/coach, at any club, calling one of his own players a cheat after that player had gained his team a penalty.

Some may sometimes go as far as saying "it was soft", but that's about it.

Billy Brown did about Garry O'Connor.

The review people then looked at it and decided it was a penalty and he had no case to answer:faf:

[Sylar]

Watt’s dive was the most embarrassing moment of the game. Hibs pen was soft but Wright’s comments are a disgrace. Very few forward players wouldn’t go down.

:no way: not even close to how embarrassing Slivka's dive was.

[BoomtownHibees]

:no way: not even close to how embarrassing Slivka's dive was.

Reverse whataboutery again

[stuart-farquhar]

I thought it was a pen

Me too, and i was very close to it behind the goal.

[Carheenlea]

I was about 15 yards from the incident, a lot closer than the TV cameras and could clearly see it was a penalty all day long. A soft penalty and a stonewall penalty are both still penalties.

[Sylar]

Reverse whataboutery again

Hardly - it's no comment on the second yellow he received. Merely responding to a comment that I viewed as a little ridiculous given how laughable his dive was in the first place.

The foul he was booked for in the second instance wasn't a yellow. I agree with you.

[aljo7-0]

What annoyed me about Slivka being sent off for the "foul" on Tony Watt was not so much Tony Watt going down and looking for the foul. it was him looking up from the ground seeing it was Slivka who caught him and then going ballistic at the ref whilst flashing an imaginary card. He clearly knew Slivka was on a booking

[The 90+2]

Can he be cited all of a sudden meaning he will miss Sat? :confused:

[JeMeSouviens]

He should be fined for the first booking. Blatant cheating which went wrong.

Why don't players get embarrassed when they get caught?

Because they don't get free kicks and penalties if they try and stay on their feet, it looks unnatural if they wait for contact, so they anticipate the challenge and are already on the way down. Slivka got caught out because the defender pulled back before contact.

The only way to fix this would be for refs to start giving fouls when players stay up. It won't happen because the UK is the only place that cares.

We lost this battle about 30 years ago.

[bingo70]

What annoyed me about Slivka being sent off for the "foul" on Tony Watt was not so much Tony Watt going down and looking for the foul. it was him looking up from the ground seeing it was Slivka who caught him and then going ballistic at the ref whilst flashing an imaginary card. He clearly knew Slivka was on a booking

Why? If that was me and a player on a card and had just got away with one, fouled me again I’d be annoyed too.

I don’t understand the outrage at players holding imaginary cards up either, if a player is fouling you imo you’ve every right to want them to get booked, otherwise the person committing the fouls is getting an unfair advantage.

[ZAGREB RED]

I think Kamberi almost invited the contact for the penalty and when it came he made the most of it.
St Johnstone's penalty claim was doubtful.
Slivka's second booking was stupid on his part, he gave Watt the opportunity to go down with that hand into the back, and, like Kamberi earlier, he took it. Yellow was possibly a bit harsh but Slivka was a bit brainless, to say the least. He put himself in the position and gave the ref a decision to make.

[.Sean.]

He’s Lennon’s bum chum so he was always going to make a cute wee sarcy comment about Flo.

**** Tommy Wright and his team of cloggers

[04Sauzee]

Obviously feeling a bit pressure due to current form

And with Livingston, St Mirren and Motherwell coming up next they need to arrest that form





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[Lago]

Curmudgeonly roaster.
Not a happy bunny, but I do have a lot of time for him in general.

[HoboHarry]

Why? If that was me and a player on a card and had just got away with one, fouled me again I’d be annoyed too.

I don’t understand the outrage at players holding imaginary cards up either, if a player is fouling you imo you’ve every right to want them to get booked, otherwise the person committing the fouls is getting an unfair advantage.
Disagree with the last part, I hate seeing any player doing that. The amount of hypocrisy in football is huge - we regularly hear about "x" showing a lack of respect to his fellow player. What is trying to get a player sent off and banned for the following game if it isn't a lack of respect?

[bingo70]

Disagree with the last part, I hate seeing any player doing that. The amount of hypocrisy in football is huge - we regularly hear about "x" showing a lack of respect to his fellow player. What is trying to get a player sent off and banned for the following game if it isn't a lack of respect?

Most people do disagree with me about it.

To me though, someone tripping someone up or trying to hurt someone is a lot more disrespectful than a player asking for that player to be cautioned.

I personally think if you’re on the receiving end of a bad or cynical foul with a deliberate attempt to either hurt you or stop you illegally (in the eyes of the game), you’ve every right to ask for that player to be carded.

[Ringothedog]

Hibs head coach seemed to think it was a penalty.

As do I, it was a stupid challenge in the box

[matty_f]

I thought it was a penalty at the game and I've watched the replay and I still think it's a penalty. Did Kamberi play for it? Looked like it. Did Craig go into the back of him? Yep. Would have been a foul outside the box so it's a penalty if it happens in the box.

I'd be annoyed if it was given against us becuase I'm a supporter and even when there are clear as day penalties given against us, I get annoyed about it.

[Danderhall Hibs]

Exactly.

It might be refreshing if one did, but it'll never happen.

I might be wrong but I think Tommy Wright has done this in the past.

[JoeT_WasTheBest]

I might be wrong but I think Tommy Wright has done this in the past.

:shocked:

[matty_f]

:shocked:

:hilarious:

[Future17]

Most people do disagree with me about it.

To me though, someone tripping someone up or trying to hurt someone is a lot more disrespectful than a player asking for that player to be cautioned.

I personally think if you’re on the receiving end of a bad or cynical foul with a deliberate attempt to either hurt you or stop you illegally (in the eyes of the game), you’ve every right to ask for that player to be carded.

You've every right to want them carded, but asking for it to happen is dissent.

[bingo70]

You've every right to want them carded, but asking for it to happen is dissent.

I know. I don't think it should be though.

IMO It's a perfectly reasonable thing to do after being tripped up, kicked or whatever has been done by the opposing player to gain an unfair advantage over you.

[Danderhall Hibs]

:shocked:

I know mate - it’s unlikely.

[goosefat]

Tommy...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJxCdh1Ps48

[HoboHarry]

I know. I don't think it should be though.

IMO It's a perfectly reasonable thing to do after being tripped up, kicked or whatever has been done by the opposing player to gain an unfair advantage over you.
IMHO no player has the right to tell a referee what he should do. Regardless of what we think generally of the ability of referees, I'm not aware of any other sport where players think it is their given right to harangue referees over every decision made. It could be stopped in a week with the introduction of the rugby style 10 yard rule but the authorities don't don't have the balls to introduce that.

[brog]

He raised his hand in a deliberate gesture and made contact with the guy's back (who then falls down like a sack of tatties). I can't remember where the referee was, but if he was say 15-20 yds away and running himself, it'd be difficult for him to know how much contact was made.

I don't see that the ref had a choice.

You see, I didn't see it like that at all. Watt ( cleverly) cuts across the oncoming Hibs player. As Watt does this he actually raises his arm to ward Slivka off. Slivka realises he may catch Watt with his leg/body so puts the brakes on & puts his arm out for balance. He brushes Watt, no more, Watt takes 2 steps, realises he's been touched & throws himself to the ground. He then gets the bonus of realising it's Slivka. The ref hesitates, then sees it's Slivka & thinks I've just let him off with one, so goes for his pocket. Opinions huh!
As for our pen, I don't think Kamberi's looking for it at all, otherwise he would have gone down at the 1st contact from Shaughnessy. When I was a ref I put great store on body language to help with difficult decisions. Liam Craig's body language says he knew it was a penalty.

[eastcoasthibby]

Wright would have nothing to say about his ace diver Watt getting a penalty in the same situation, if Craig and Shaughnessy ( I think) want to stupidly put there hands and arms into the back off an attacker with the ball in that situation they are asking for trouble and the ref to make a decision ..stupid defending but enough contact in my view !

[bingo70]

IMHO no player has the right to tell a referee what he should do. Regardless of what we think generally of the ability of referees, I'm not aware of any other sport where players think it is their given right to harangue referees over every decision made. It could be stopped in a week with the introduction of the rugby style 10 yard rule but the authorities don't don't have the balls to introduce that.

I don't think the 10 yard thing would make any difference as territory isn't that important in football, more important in rugby and 10 yards can make all the difference.

I was never quick enough as a footballer to run away from any one but i just think it must be frustrating as hell to be passed someone, you've got your mind on what your going to do next and then your taken down with a cynical foul. I don't blame players for asking the ref to book players, i would assume it would be a natural reaction to an extent. Same applies if it's a bad foul that could cause serious injury, i don't see why the victim isn't allowed to say to the ref that they think the other player should be booked?

I realise i'm in the minority, probably of one, as it seems to disgust everyone else, particularly the pundits on the tele, i personally just don't see the issue with it.

[HoboHarry]

I don't think the 10 yard thing would make any difference as territory isn't that important in football, more important in rugby and 10 yards can make all the difference.

I was never quick enough as a footballer to run away from any one but i just think it must be frustrating as hell to be passed someone, you've got your mind on what your going to do next and then your taken down with a cynical foul. I don't blame players for asking the ref to book players, i would assume it would be a natural reaction to an extent. Same applies if it's a bad foul that could cause serious injury, i don't see why the victim isn't allowed to say to the ref that they think the other player should be booked?

I realise i'm in the minority, probably of one, as it seems to disgust everyone else, particularly the pundits on the tele, i personally just don't see the issue with it.
Territory is not important? A free kick 35 yards out being moved forward 10 yards puts it easily within scoring distance for players like Stevie Mallan. And if the starting point it 25 yards out it ends up in the penalty area with a show of dissent. Territory is everything. The rule will never happen as I said before but no question it would stop dissent and quickly.

[bingo70]

Territory is not important? A free kick 35 yards out being moved forward 10 yards puts it easily within scoring distance for players like Stevie Mallan. And if the starting point it 25 yards out it ends up in the penalty area with a show of dissent. Territory is everything. The rule will never happen as I said before but no question it would stop dissent and quickly.

Nah, i don't think it is that important. There's obviously the occasions you've mentioned however i am not sure a free kick from outside the box going into the box is particularly helpful (assuming you're not talking about it becoming a penalty), it can help players being a bit further away so they've got room to get it up and down. I'm not saying it's never beneficial to be further forward but unless it's a free kick from 35 yards out going forward 10 yards i'm not sure there's a huge difference.

Rugby players have to scrap for every yard they want to go forward, footballers can just pass it forward 10 yards if they want to.

I'm not saying there shouldn't be punishment for dissent but i just don't think territory is that good a solution in football.

[Iggy Pope]

Tommy Wright looks like he sounds.
Reminds me of Ian Paisley without the peace-keeping qualities.

[Diclonius]

Ultimately Wright's management style reflects how his team plays - like McInnes, he sends his players out for deliberate gamesmanship and masks this by highlighting when teams do it back to him.

It's a legitimate strategy and whilst it can be irritating it makes it all the sweeter when we win.

[Sean1875]

Hes just made to be the next Hearts boss once Levein gets punted - a greeting faced roaster who plays ***** football, perfect for them.

[lapsedhibee]

I don't recall ever hearing any manager/coach, at any club, calling one of his own players a cheat after that player had gained his team a penalty.
Don't think he used the word cheat, but Alex 'Sir' Fergie called out Ashley Young after a brief spate of spring-loaded dives and said he would be having a word with him.

[hibee316]

Are they only cheats if they play for our opponents?

Pretty much sums it up for me :)

[Hermit Crab]

Pretty sure this is the same Tommy Wright some on here wanted to take over from Lennon? Plenty moaning about him now though.

[Ringothedog]

Pretty sure this is the same Tommy Wright some on here wanted to take over from Lennon? Plenty moaning about him now though.

You say “some” wanted him as Hibs manager, that would mean there where others who didn’t want him as manager, maybe that’s who are slagging off the bitter roaster that is Tommy Wright?

[southsider]

Is it now (and I don’t want to tempt fate) to late for the compliance officer to do any thing about Marc’s challenge in the Dundee game ?

[ben johnson]

This is rock on Tommy after the ludicrous penalty v Hearts.

"It's quite obvious we should have won, it's two points dropped. We totally dominated and they barely laid a glove on us from open play.

"Decisions go for you and against you. But Craig [Levein] has had a lot to say about referees recently, but this is a game where they'll be happy to get a point because they were second best all night."

[Onion]

DEFLECT DEFLECT DEFLECT

His team played agains 10 men for 30 mins at 1-1 and contrived to LOSE the match. Think he has bigger problems to worry about than whether or not a pen should have been given earlier in the game.

But, if a 40 ton truck did hit Kameri, the very same truck smashed into Watt a few minutes later which lead to a Hibs player being red carded.

He's a bitter plum.

[BSEJVT]

I don't think the 10 yard thing would make any difference as territory isn't that important in football, more important in rugby and 10 yards can make all the difference.

I was never quick enough as a footballer to run away from any one but i just think it must be frustrating as hell to be passed someone, you've got your mind on what your going to do next and then your taken down with a cynical foul. I don't blame players for asking the ref to book players, i would assume it would be a natural reaction to an extent. Same applies if it's a bad foul that could cause serious injury, i don't see why the victim isn't allowed to say to the ref that they think the other player should be booked?

I realise i'm in the minority, probably of one, as it seems to disgust everyone else, particularly the pundits on the tele, i personally just don't see the issue with it.

You are absolutely entitled to your opinion and its good that you defend it and acknowledge it is not a popular one.

If someone did that to me I would laugh in their face and think that's you beat pal.

If the best they can do is ask their mummy (the ref) for help then IMO they are *****ed.

Personally I would resolve to get them back with interest.

But I don't suppose I would last long in these genteel days, where a breath of wind is enough to have some charlatans hitting the deck and claiming blue murder.

As for simulation I would make it an automatic sending off offence which came with a 2 game ban

[Iggy Pope]

Pretty sure this is the same Tommy Wright some on here wanted to take over from Lennon? Plenty moaning about him now though.

Name these *******s.

[JimBHibees]

Name these *******s.

Tend to agree I cant remember many or any. His team play dour stuff imo and while effective and have a number of good players wouldnt want that style of play at ER winning or not.

[emerald green]

Billy Brown did about Garry O'Connor.

The review people then looked at it and decided it was a penalty and he had no case to answer:faf:

Billy Brown has been places and done things. Not like him to make an ar** of himself like that. :rolleyes:

[Eyrie]

There was more contact for our penalty than there was for Slivka's second booking.

Maybe Wright needs to look at how easily his own players go down before criticising others.

[Peevemor]

Excellent response from Heckingbottom here (interesting photo too)

https://www.edinburghlive.co.uk/sport/football/paul-heckingbottom-tells-tommy-wright-15903260

[wookie70]

Excellent response from Heckingbottom here (interesting photo too)

https://www.edinburghlive.co.uk/sport/football/paul-heckingbottom-tells-tommy-wright-15903260

That to me is the best response to give. Classy and makes the players and staff look at themselves rather than trying to blame refs. Our previous boss would look at every factor to point the finger at which is a surefire way of not improving. The Heck has been very impressive in his interviews and exactly the type of manager we needed.

[Sir David Gray]

Just watched the highlights and if he wants to talk about players conning the referee then he should look no further than Tony Watt. That second booking for Slivka was a disgrace and Watt looked like he had been hit by a 40ft truck (Wright's words).

Yes the penalty was extremely soft but it's unfair to basically brand one player a cheat on the opposition and say nothing about your own player doing practically the same thing to get another player sent off.

[BegbieHSC]

Excellent response from Heckingbottom here (interesting photo too)

https://www.edinburghlive.co.uk/sport/football/paul-heckingbottom-tells-tommy-wright-15903260

I’m a big fan of how Hecky is coming across. Seems like a really classy guy.

Found this article he wrote in 2008 really interesting, which might make you think of our October-January spell. I think we’re in for a much different managerial style with our new man, compared with our old.

https://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/sport/3765151.How_can_booing_a_player_help_your_team_/

[Diclonius]

Excellent response from Heckingbottom here (interesting photo too)

https://www.edinburghlive.co.uk/sport/football/paul-heckingbottom-tells-tommy-wright-15903260

Very nearly coming to a war of words with Wright but just about managing not to. Going to take a while to get used to this guy. :greengrin

[BILLYHIBS]

Just watched the highlights and if he wants to talk about players conning the referee then he should look no further than Tony Watt. That second booking for Slivka was a disgrace and Watt looked like he had been hit by a 40ft truck (Wright's words).

Yes the penalty was extremely soft but it's unfair to basically brand one player a cheat on the opposition and say nothing about your own player doing practically the same thing to get another player sent off.

Agree

Our penalty was soft

Slivkas second booking a disgrace but he should have been hooked for his own good and the good of the team

A blind man could see it coming :confused:

[Libby Hibby]

Agree

Our penalty was soft

Slivkas second booking a disgrace but he should have been hooked for his own good and the good of the team

A blind man could see it coming :confused:

Who knows Billy, if he did take Slivka off prior to being sent off then we could’ve ended up getting beat.

I think we should be acknowledging the fact that after the sending off, the change to bring on Bartley and leave the 2 strikers on was brave and allowed us to go for the 3 points at a delicate stage of the game.

[hibsbollah]

There was also three St Johnstone players surrounding the ref giving him the red card demands. I wishrefs would apply the rules and book them for that, it'd stop overnight.

[Diclonius]

There was also three St Johnstone players surrounding the ref giving him the red card demands. I wishrefs would apply the rules and book them for that, it'd stop overnight.

Don't understand why FIFA haven't introduced the "only the captain can speak to the referee" rule yet. It would shut down the gamesmanship of teams like Barcelona overnight.

[bingo70]

Don't understand why FIFA haven't introduced the "only the captain can speak to the referee" rule yet. It would shut down the gamesmanship of teams like Barcelona overnight.

Think you’ve answered your own question there.

[theonlywayisup]

Just watched the highlights and if he wants to talk about players conning the referee then he should look no further than Tony Watt. That second booking for Slivka was a disgrace and Watt looked like he had been hit by a 40ft truck (Wright's words).

Yes the penalty was extremely soft but it's unfair to basically brand one player a cheat on the opposition and say nothing about your own player doing practically the same thing to get another player sent off.

I'm usually very balanced with my views, but I don't see why everyone is saying the penalty is soft.

There's clearly a push by one player onto the left hand side of Kamberi's back along with Craig's leg 'tackling' Kamberi's right knee. At the speed that Kamberi was running to get away from the defenders both actions by the St. Johnstone players would be enough to cause Kamberi to lose balance and go down. It's not like he's anticipated the challenge and has started to go down before the contact is made. If that was first in his mind, he would have tried to go down the first time he tangled with the St. Johnstone player.

Jeez, we've seen enough penalties given when defenders slide into a challenge going to ground and the attacker see's the leg and manufactures the contact to gain the penalty. That clearly doesn't happen in the Kamberi penalty.

In my view, it's not soft. It's just daft that two St. Johnstone players illegally tried to challenge Kamberi in the box whilst he's going away from goal. As Hecky say's Wright should be focusing on the inadequacies of his own players rather than shift blame onto a player from another team.

[Sir David Gray]

I'm usually very balanced with my views, but I don't see why everyone is saying the penalty is soft.

There's clearly a push by one player onto the left hand side of Kamberi's back along with Craig's leg 'tackling' Kamberi's right knee. At the speed that Kamberi was running to get away from the defenders both actions by the St. Johnstone players would be enough to cause Kamberi to lose balance and go down. It's not like he's anticipated the challenge and has started to go down before the contact is made. If that was first in his mind, he would have tried to go down the first time he tangled with the St. Johnstone player.

Jeez, we've seen enough penalties given when defenders slide into a challenge going to ground and the attacker see's the leg and manufactures the contact to gain the penalty. That clearly doesn't happen in the Kamberi penalty.

In my view, it's not soft. It's just daft that two St. Johnstone players illegally tried to challenge Kamberi in the box whilst he's going away from goal. As Hecky say's Wright should be focusing on the inadequacies of his own players rather than shift blame onto a player from another team.

Heckingbottom did make a valid point by suggesting Wright should be asking questions of his own defenders as to why they felt the need to go near Kamberi at all when he was posing no danger at all.

I just felt it was fairly soft.

[theonlywayisup]

Heckingbottom did make a valid point by suggesting Wright should be asking questions of his own defenders as to why they felt the need to go near Kamberi at all when he was posing no danger at all.

I just felt it was fairly soft.

I see that you are "softening" your view. In the first post you said "extremely" soft, now you are saying it's "fairly" soft. Soon you'll be in agreement with me. :greengrin

I'm sure there's an "actress said to the bishop" quote that could be used, but I'll refrain from that.

[BILLYHIBS]

Who knows Billy, if he did take Slivka off prior to being sent off then we could’ve ended up getting beat.

I think we should be acknowledging the fact that after the sending off, the change to bring on Bartley and leave the 2 strikers on was brave and allowed us to go for the 3 points at a delicate stage of the game.

Yip thought Bartley was a brave one after his horror show versus the sheep but he did OK after a couple of tackles the fans were singing the Marvin Bartley song

NL would defo have hooked a forward probably Flo :greengrin

Is Slivka OK for Saturday?

[theonlywayisup]

Is Slivka OK for Saturday?

I think so - his suspension should be the next league game. So he'll miss the The Rangers game and not the Celtic game.

[Saint Hibee]

I was right in front of the incident and it was a clear penalty. The fact that Liam Craig fell over in the process shows the momentum at which he banged into Kamberi. There was nothing "soft" about it. The only question is: what was Craig thinking?

[Carheenlea]

I was right in front of the incident and it was a clear penalty. The fact that Liam Craig fell over in the process shows the momentum at which he banged into Kamberi. There was nothing "soft" about it. The only question is: what was Craig thinking?

Sometimes the camera does lie, and this is why I’m not for VAR. Like you We had a clear view of it and there was not any doubt about it from those viewing closest to it with their own eyes. Similarly, the only question was why Craig made such a rash challenge given where Flo was.

[Crab apple]

Just watched the highlights and if he wants to talk about players conning the referee then he should look no further than Tony Watt. That second booking for Slivka was a disgrace and Watt looked like he had been hit by a 40ft truck (Wright's words).

Yes the penalty was extremely soft but it's unfair to basically brand one player a cheat on the opposition and say nothing about your own player doing practically the same thing to get another player sent off.

Agreed. And I wasn’t impressed by Watt then running to the ref and asking him to get the card out. A cheat and a grass.

[Hibbyradge]

Hardly - it's no comment on the second yellow he received. Merely responding to a comment that I viewed as a little ridiculous given how laughable his dive was in the first place.

The foul he was booked for in the second instance wasn't a yellow. I agree with you.


I was right in front of the incident and it was a clear penalty. The fact that Liam Craig fell over in the process shows the momentum at which he banged into Kamberi. There was nothing "soft" about it. The only question is: what was Craig thinking?

What are you seeing? It might have been a foul, but Liam Craig didn't fall over. :confused:

[Heisenberg]

See Murray Davidson is at it in the papers today as well.

[Hibbyradge]

Hardly - it's no comment on the second yellow he received. Merely responding to a comment that I viewed as a little ridiculous given how laughable his dive was in the first place.

The foul he was booked for in the second instance wasn't a yellow. I agree with you.


See Murray Davidson is at it in the papers today as well.

Sounds pervy ...

I don't know why Syler's post got quoted :confused:

[Saint Hibee]

What are you seeing? It might have been a foul, but Liam Craig didn't fall over. :confused:

He stumbles over after the foul.

[SouthMoroccoStu]

See Murray Davidson is at it in the papers today as well.

Kinky

What’s he saying?

[killie-hibby]

See Murray Davidson is at it in the papers today as well.

Davidson is entitled to give his version of an event,plenty of quotations from him. Unfortunately the Sun's reporter (Colin Duncan) includes his own opinion by stating, "The St.Johnstone star was gutted to throw away three points but it was the reaction of a cheating Kamberi that left him in a seethe."

Was Colin Duncan at the match? Did he ask Kamberi for his opinion.? Unbiased reporting indeed!

[Hibbyradge]

Hardly - it's no comment on the second yellow he received. Merely responding to a comment that I viewed as a little ridiculous given how laughable his dive was in the first place.

The foul he was booked for in the second instance wasn't a yellow. I agree with you.


He stumbles over after the foul.

I just watched it again.

He stays on his feet the entire time.

[HIBERNIAN-0762]

Did this clown not ask teammate Watt why he went down as if he had been shot to try to get a fellow professional sent off? Then get up in an instant?

St Johnstone are the new deluded poppy thieves replacement.

[green day]

Kinky

What’s he saying?

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/murray-davidson-hibs-florian-kamberi-blew-kisses-at-me-after-penalty-award-1-4881598

****in diddums is my reaction. What a bairn

[SaulGoodman]

I was right in front of the incident and it was a clear penalty. The fact that Liam Craig fell over in the process shows the momentum at which he banged into Kamberi. There was nothing "soft" about it. The only question is: what was Craig thinking?

“I’ll show these Hibs ****s what they’re missing after getting rid of me, as I heroically win this ball back from their star striker”

“Oops I’ve made a James hunt of it again, I wonder what’s for tea?”

[Peevemor]

Did Shaughnessy shove Flo in the back? - Yes.

Did Liam Craig play the ball? - No.

Was there contact between Liam Craig & Flo?

21758

Hibs should contact St J to get them to tell their staff to calm their jets.

[Crab apple]

See Murray Davidson is at it in the papers today as well.

Davidson is a yam scroat.

[Diclonius]

Davidson complaining about big bad Flo Kamberi blowing kisses at him which proves he's a cheat.

They really aren't taking this very well.

[lapsedhibee]

Did Shaughnessy shove Flo in the back? - Yes.

Did Liam Craig play the ball? - No.

Was there contact between Liam Craig & Flo?



Did Shaughnessy touch Flo's back? - Yes

Did Liam Craig touch the ball? - No

Did Liam Craig touch Flo? - Yes

Do the laws of the game have anything to say about the combination of three such facts?

[007]

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/murray-davidson-hibs-florian-kamberi-blew-kisses-at-me-after-penalty-award-1-4881598

****in diddums is my reaction. What a bairn

He is accusing Kamberi of cheating and then goes on to say:
"... if you are going to give penalties for that, each game will be seven each because there will be ten penalties per game.”

As far as I'm concerned that means players from all teams are the same, including St Johnstone. To be fair, he does go on to admit his teammates have dived and he just comes across as being a bit of a tit for getting upset at Kamberi blowing him kisses. Is it okay to go down as long as you don't blow kisses afterwards?

[green day]

Is it okay to go down as long as you don't blow kisses afterwards?

I am fairly sure I have asked that question, although not in a footballing context :greengrin

[Hibby Kay-Yay]

I am fairly sure I have asked that question, although not in a footballing context :greengrin

:greengrin

[JimBHibees]

I am fairly sure I have asked that question, although not in a footballing context :greengrin

:faf::faf:

[hulk]

I am fairly sure I have asked that question, although not in a footballing context :greengrin

😂😂

[Wee Effen Bee]

Tommy Wright looks like he sounds.
Reminds me of Ian Paisley without the peace-keeping qualities.
😁

[MWHIBBIES]

The lions don't concern themselves with the opinions of the sheep. Let them moan all they want, daft little club.

[kaimendhibs]

It was a penalty, soft or not.
Flo didn't blow any kisses as far as I could see and I was in row E

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[Peevemor]

It was a penalty, soft or not.
Flo didn't blow any kisses as far as I could see and I was in row E

Sent from my VTR-L09 using TapatalkOn the Hibs TV coverage you could see him diagonally from the back. It certainly looked like he was blowing kisses when he was still on his backside.

[Sammy7nil]

It was a penalty, soft or not.
Flo didn't blow any kisses as far as I could see and I was in row E

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Well that's official then it did not happen :greengrin:greengrin::wink:

[bingo70]

Why is blowing a kiss seen as some sort of admission of guilt?

Could he not have been fouled and then done it?

[bodhibs]

I am fairly sure I have asked that question, although not in a footballing context :greengrin

Excellent, made me laugh after an awful day. Well played

[Brizo]

I am fairly sure I have asked that question, although not in a footballing context :greengrin

:top marks

LOL as the young people say

[007]

I am fairly sure I have asked that question, although not in a footballing context :greengrin

Ha ha, classic. :greengrin