Heckingbottom signings

[Unseen work]

Im sure we will all be wondering what sort of players he will look to recruit to the club and how we will set up/play.

Going by his history it’s seems to be a running theme of young players excelling at lower levels and ready for the step up, a lot of whom made the step up with ease and were a success or gained another move off the back of it.

An article here about his signings https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.leeds-live.co.uk/sport/leeds-united/leeds-united-transfer-news-heckingbottom-14597357.amp

Looking forward to see who he brings in as it is those type of players that I always find so we’ll at hibs and something we have moved away from in the past year or so with recruiting older players or squad fillers.

[Diclonius]

I wonder if he'll address the fact that we only have three senior strikers before the end of this season.

[The_Horde]

Im sure we will all be wondering what sort of players he will look to recruit to the club and how we will set up/play.

Going by his history it’s seems to be a running theme of young players excelling at lower levels and ready for the step up, a lot of whom made the step up with ease and were a success or gained another move off the back of it.

An article here about his signings https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.leeds-live.co.uk/sport/leeds-united/leeds-united-transfer-news-heckingbottom-14597357.amp

Looking forward to see who he brings in as it is those type of players that I always find so we’ll at hibs and something we have moved away from in the past year or so with recruiting older players or squad fillers.

Brilliant. So the minimum he's spent is about £500k in transfer fees, how do we compete with that?

[CMurdoch]

I wonder if he'll address the fact that we only have three senior strikers before the end of this season.

Doubt it at this stage.
But by the end of March he will be cooking up plans for the summer.

[Unseen work]

Brilliant. So the minimum he's spent is about £500k in transfer fees, how do we compete with that?

Which in the Chanpionship/England is not a lot of money at all.

He has the right idea and type of player that he wants, I think he will be able to attract good young players here.

[HoboHarry]

I wonder if he'll address the fact that we only have three senior strikers before the end of this season.
Only way he could do that is to sign someone without a club and run the risk that they lack match fitness....

[Hibeesmad]

In an interview I’m sure he mentioned he doesn’t like to sign loan players who have never been out on loan before

[HoboHarry]

He signed an Englishman called Angus McDonald? F*** off - English? I'm not having that........ :greengrin

[davhibby]

He signed an Englishman called Angus McDonald? F*** off - English? I'm not having that........ :greengrin

I'm sure he was being touted for a Scotland call up when he was Barnsley captain so he must have some Scottish connection

[NAE NOOKIE]

He signed an Englishman called Angus McDonald? F*** off - English? I'm not having that........ :greengrin

I seem to recall a promising young lad at Newcastle United who did rather well and went on to play for England called Malcolm McDonald … what's in a name eh? :greengrin

[Inconsequential]

Which in the Chanpionship/England is not a lot of money at all.

He has the right idea and type of player that he wants, I think he will be able to attract good young players here. I think Dexter was being sarcastic. Half a million was a minimum. He spent millions on players read the google article.

[HoboHarry]

I seem to recall a promising young lad at Newcastle United who did rather well and went on to play for England called Malcolm McDonald … what's in a name eh? :greengrin

I remember Jimmy Greaves calling BS on the old Hearts keeper Henry Smith being Scottish too 😂

[bigwheel]

I remember Jimmy Greaves calling BS on the old Hearts keeper Henry Smith being Scottish too [emoji23]

There are quite a few observers who called BS on Smith being a goalkeeper! [emoji2][emoji6]

[James310]

There are quite a few observers who called BS on Smith being a goalkeeper! [emoji2][emoji6]

Henry Henry drop the ball, Henry drop the ball.

[CapitalGreen]

Brilliant. So the minimum he's spent is about £500k in transfer fees, how do we compete with that?

From summer 2016 to summer 2017 he brought in 8 players to Barnsley for a combined £4m. None of them are still at the club and only 1 was sold for a profit.

[BullsCloseHibs]

Which in the Chanpionship/England is not a lot of money at all.

He has the right idea and type of player that he wants, I think he will be able to attract good young players here.

Might have already been said, but I'm quite sure he'll already know what sort of cash he has to play with and that would have formed his decision to take the job. Lennon would have been the same at Bolton, who had much more cash to spend than anyone outside the Glasgow two.

[Seaquest]

Still a back question mark over who the signings at Easter Road. Will he have a free hand?

[dchibs]

Still a back question mark over who the signings at Easter Road. Will he have a free hand?

He might need one if we are going for somebody like Messi.

[MacGruber]

From summer 2016 to summer 2017 he brought in 8 players to Barnsley for a combined £4m. None of them are still at the club and only 1 was sold for a profit.

That is a worrying stat. However, only things that matter now are what happens and who he brings in at Hibs

[BSEJVT]

That is a worrying stat. However, only things that matter now are what happens and who he brings in at Hibs

It could be but not necessarily

Hibs suffered from this for years in the post Mowbray era

Not all the players we signed in that time were bad, but with a change of manager often comes a clearing of the decks

There is little value achieved in a fire sale necessary for you to raise some cash to bring in "your" players

[Northernhibee]

From summer 2016 to summer 2017 he brought in 8 players to Barnsley for a combined £4m. None of them are still at the club and only 1 was sold for a profit.

That's absolutely nothing in a league such as the Championship, especially for £4m. Not too concerned about that.

[MartinfaePorty]

How many did a good job for the club and then just moved on when their contracts ended?

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[MWHIBBIES]

From summer 2016 to summer 2017 he brought in 8 players to Barnsley for a combined £4m. None of them are still at the club and only 1 was sold for a profit.

Liam Fontaine
Dylan McGeouch
Conrad Logan
Fraser Fyvie
Malonga

None of them were sold at a profit, none are still here.

[CMurdoch]

Heckingbottom does not know most of our players.
He will look at them all with fresh eyes and without sentiment.
In the summer he will want his own players and to do that he will have to get players out.

I suspect all the players whose contracts are up in the summer will be moved on and the 6 loans will also leave.
That means fans favourites Gray, McGregor, Bartley as well as Nelom probably go because it is easy not to renew contract than move contracted players on.

That will leave us with 16 players this summer if contracted players can't be moved on.
2 Goalkeepers - Marciano, Dubrowski
5 Defenders - Whittaker, Stevenson, Mackie, Porteous, Hanlon
7 Midfielders - Milligan, Allan, Slivka, Mallan, Horgan, F. Murray, Boyle
2 Strikers - Kamberi, Shaw

The new manager will then have spaces and wages to bring in 6-8 first team players of his choice in the summer.

What do you reckon?

[Keith_M]

How long will it take for the first "underwhelmed" comment when he signs somebody?


Maybe we should place bets on it


:greengrin

[Keith_M]

From summer 2016 to summer 2017 he brought in 8 players to Barnsley for a combined £4m. None of them are still at the club and only 1 was sold for a profit.


That's chicken feed for the Championship.

[ian cruise]

Heckingbottom does not know most of our players.
He will look at them all with fresh eyes and without sentiment.
In the summer he will want his own players and to do that he will have to get players out.

I suspect all the players whose contracts are up in the summer will be moved on and the 6 loans will also leave.
That means fans favourites Gray, McGregor, Bartley as well as Nelom probably go because it is easy not to renew contract than move contracted players on.

That will leave us with 16 players this summer if contracted players can't be moved on.
2 Goalkeepers - Marciano, Dubrowski
5 Defenders - Whittaker, Stevenson, Mackie, Porteous, Hanlon
7 Midfielders - Milligan, Allan, Slivka, Mallan, Horgan, F. Murray, Boyle
2 Strikers - Kamberi, Shaw

The new manager will then have spaces and wages to bring in 6-8 first team players of his choice in the summer.

What do you reckon?

I wouldn't be surprised to see Gray and McGregor sign extentions.

[Lago]

How long will it take for the first "underwhelmed" comment when he signs somebody?


Maybe we should place bets on it


:greengrin

I know you joke but many a true thing said in jest.:agree:

[sean04]

I wouldn't be surprised to see Gray and McGregor sign extentions.

I think this will definitely happen. Stable and solid pros. Not sure how much mcgregor will play but always good to have him.

[B.H.F.C]

I think this will definitely happen. Stable and solid pros. Not sure how much mcgregor will play but always good to have him.

Not sure how much Gray will play either. He really needs to prove his fitness in the remainder of the season.

They’ll be on reasonable wages and I don’t think Heckingbottom will want to carry players that are going to miss more than they play.

I know what Dempster said about the likes of them never leaving the club, but particularly in Gray’s case, he’s still a good few years away from retirement and we need a captain capable of being on the pitch week in, week out.

[Waxy]

Henry Henry drop the ball, Henry drop the ball.

Haha what a great chant that was. Just had a memory flash of Craig Levien lobbing the ball over Henry for an og at the gorgie road end must have been way back when? Anyone remember that?

[CMurdoch]

I wouldn't be surprised to see Gray and McGregor sign extentions.

I like both Gray & McGregor but if he keeps these guys we will only be moving Bartley and Nelom on in May plus the loans.
The more players he keeps the less he can bring in and contracted players tend to sit tight.

Earlier in the month folk on here were moaning about the number of loan players at the club. The advantage of loans over contracted players will play out for the club at the end of the season and may save McGregor and Gray, by providing the necessary wriggle room for the new manager to bring in players that he believes he needs to improve the team. It will be certainly be interesting to see what happens.

[hibbyfraelibby]

Has he come in as a "Manager" or a "Head Coach"? Given statements about a good fit with the structure I assume the latter and that whilst he will have input into who we pursue as signings it is likely the vast majority of candidates will be those identified through George Craigs department at the club and he'll be given some sort of veto over who comes in, though not necessarily who leaves.

[CMurdoch]

Has he come in as a "Manager" or a "Head Coach"? Given statements about a good fit with the structure I assume the latter and that whilst he will have input into who we pursue as signings it is likely the vast majority of candidates will be those identified through George Craigs department at the club and he'll be given some sort of veto over who comes in, though not necessarily who leaves.

His job title is Head Coach but he will decide player in and outs.
He will tell George's team which player or what type of player he wants.
They will do the leg work and then come back to the manager with information or a list of players who fit the criteria.
Once he has decided who he wants he will go to Leanne and she will say yes or no based on the case he makes and the cost.
He will know his budget and will know how many players he wants and will then have to wheel and deal to get close to the team he wants.

[jgl07]

I remember Jimmy Greaves calling BS on the old Hearts keeper Henry Smith being Scottish too 😂

Smith is the most common surname in Scotland, believe it or not.

I can remember when Partick Thistle had Issac English and Gerry Britton playing for them and Hibs had Brian Welsh. Dunfermline had Hamish French. They were all Scottish.

[tamig]

His job title is Head Coach but he will decide player in and outs.
He will tell George's team which player or what type of player he wants.
They will do the leg work and then come back to the manager with information or a list of players who fit the criteria.
Once he has decided who he wants he will go to Leanne and she will say yes or no based on the case he makes and the cost.
He will know his budget and will know how many players he wants and will then have to wheel and deal to get close to the team he wants.
That’s how I reckon it works although I reckon it would be Craig approaching the Board for approval on any transfers.

[TelaStella]

Did he sign Mallan while at Barnsley?


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[CMurdoch]

Did he sign Mallan while at Barnsley?


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He did.
Then didn't play him.
Think he was even struggling to get in the match day squad before Christmas

[SquashedFrogg]

He did.
Then didn't play him.
Think he was even struggling to get in the match day squad before Christmas

Mallan was young and signed to develop as a long term prospect. A St Mirren youngster was never bought to play straight away.

But hey, let wiki facts twist the truth.

[Inconsequential]

Mallan was young and signed to develop as a long term prospect. A St Mirren youngster was never bought to play straight away.

But hey, let wiki facts twist the truth.

It's amazing how desperate people are to put a downer on our new manager. Heckingbottom also signed Liam Lindsay a young defender from Partick Thistle who has now played 70 games for Barnsley. Lindsay is now 23 same age as Steve Mallan.

[SquashedFrogg]

Heckingbottom also signed Liam Lindsay a young defender from Partick Thistle who has now played 70 games for Barnsley. Lindsay is now 23 same age as Steve Mallan.

But Mallan doesn't play for Barnsley? Not sure what your point is?

[Inconsequential]

But Mallan doesn't play for Barnsley? Not sure what your point is? You said Mallan was a young St.Mirren player who wasn't signed to play straight away. Is that a fact? You just assumed that or it's your opinion of events. The former Partick player is the same age and has played regularly for Barnsley since signing. That is fact. 21 years old is not that young for a footballer just look at Ryan Porteous.

[CMurdoch]

Mallan was young and signed to develop as a long term prospect. A St Mirren youngster was never bought to play straight away.

But hey, let wiki facts twist the truth.

Liam Lindsay is only about 9 months older than Steven Mallan.
Heckenbottom signed them both for Barnsley in summer of 2017 from Scottish Clubs where they had both been doing well.
Being a small club Barnsley would have IMO been looking for both to quickly make their mark in the 1st team.
As it turned out Lindsay was an almost ever present in the 2017/18 season and was voted the Barnsley players, player of the season and Mallan barely kicked a ball.

As a result we were able to get our hands on Mallan.
Don't know if he will be feeling positive about Heckenbottom being his boss again.
I hope you are right and Mallan can develop and improve at Hibs.

[Inconsequential]

Liam Lindsay is only about 9 months older than Steven Mallan.
Heckenbottom signed them both for Barnsley from Scottish Clubs where they had both been doing well.
Being a small club they would have IMO been looking for both to quickly play in the 1st team.
As it turned out Lindsay was an almost ever present and the clubs player of the season and Mallan barely kicked a ball.
As a result we were able to get our hands on Mallen.
Don't know if he will be feeling positive about Heckenbottom being his boss again. Spot on Colin! Hibs also signed a young St.Mirren player and he became a regular at Hibs straight away. His name is John McGinn and iirc he was 20 years old. To say a St.Mirren young player wasn't signed to play straight away is condescending towards St.Mirren.

[southern hibby]

I like both Gray & McGregor but if he keeps these guys we will only be moving Bartley and Nelom on in May plus the loans.
The more players he keeps the less he can bring in and contracted players tend to sit tight.

Earlier in the month folk on here were moaning about the number of loan players at the club. The advantage of loans over contracted players will play out for the club at the end of the season and may save McGregor and Gray, by providing the necessary wriggle room for the new manager to bring in players that he believes he needs to improve the team. It will be certainly be interesting to see what happens.

I mentioned the loan players several times and still stand by what I said. For every loan player we have that’s a wage that could be going to a signed player who we may be able to develope and sell on.

Tin hat firmly on here. Individually we have a good defence on paper but as a unit the last 6 months ( my personal view ) they don’t seem to work as a unit. They seldom come out in a straight line and catch teams offside, more often than not there’s one of them playing someone onside. Some of the goals conceded have been rather easily scored.

SDG:-Been outstanding for Hibs but been injured a lot.
LS :- Solid pro and been a great servant to Hibs.
PH:- Was being quoted by some for a call up but since coming back from injury has been not the same player.
Milligan:- Solid pro looked better since coming back from international games.
Port:- Out rest of the season and a great long term prospect.
SMac:- Another good prospect who has looked good since breaking through.
Whitt’s:- Sold pro great career but not the youngest and probably a squad filler at best now.

The problem I think we have is we are predictable and don’t have the squad to shake the defence up which allows players to be complacent knowing there’s no one there to take there jersey and allows other teams to target individual players as week links as they see them.

I’m sure a few on here will disagree with me and that’s good as it’s all about opinions but if we do keep the players who’s contracts are running out they have to practice as a unit.

On about units, throw ins will need to practiced a hell of a lot.

GGTTH

[Keith_M]

Smith is the most common surname in Scotland, believe it or not.

I can remember when Partick Thistle had Issac English and Gerry Britton playing for them and Hibs had Brian Welsh. Dunfermline had Hamish French. They were all Scottish.

Actually, it's Singh.

[HoboHarry]

Actually, it's Singh.
You can Singh fur yer supper if ye keep talking s***e......

[davhibby]

Liam Lindsay is only about 9 months older than Steven Mallan.
Heckenbottom signed them both for Barnsley in summer of 2017 from Scottish Clubs where they had both been doing well.
Being a small club Barnsley would have IMO been looking for both to quickly make their mark in the 1st team.
As it turned out Lindsay was an almost ever present in the 2017/18 season and was voted the Barnsley players, player of the season and Mallan barely kicked a ball.

As a result we were able to get our hands on Mallan.
Don't know if he will be feeling positive about Heckenbottom being his boss again.
I hope you are right and Mallan can develop and improve at Hibs.

Lindsay was and is a better player than Mallan. That's not me saying Mallan is bad but Lindsay was player of the year for a top 6 premiership team in Scotland and arguably one of the best centre backs in the league that season. Mallan was playing in the bottom half of the championship which is a much much bigger step up to the game down south

[Mick O'Rourke]

Hecky was asked about Stevie in this interview he did for The Herald the other day.

https://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/17434394.failed-barnsley-venture-under-new-hibernian-boss-wont-count-against-midfielder/

[ArmadaleHibs]

One things for sure, he’s going to have Scott Allan available next season and I guarantee he will be creaming himself when he finds out exactly what type of player he is and how he changes our team. That I have no doubt. If scotty enjoys playing for this guy and the other players also it could be the signing of the century.

GGTTH

[itslegaltender]

Henry Henry drop the ball, Henry drop the ball.

Best estate agent in Edinburgh, sold a lot of semi's.

[Hibernia&Alba]

Just a centre back, midfielder and striker, please. Gauld (if he stays) and Allan will be excellent together and solve the problem of creativity in midfield. Lennon did excellent work there before it ended; now PH needs to address our other obvious flaws.

[Borderhibbie76]

Just a centre back, midfielder and striker, please. Gauld (if he stays) and Allan will be excellent together and solve the problem of creativity in midfield. Lennon did excellent work there before it ended; now PH needs to address our other obvious flaws.Gauld needs to prove himself first...done very little thus far before getting injured...so he's on trial a long with everyone else in the squad till May now

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[AlbertK86]

Lindsay was and is a better player than Mallan. That's not me saying Mallan is bad but Lindsay was player of the year for a top 6 premiership team in Scotland and arguably one of the best centre backs in the league that season. Mallan was playing in the bottom half of the championship which is a much much bigger step up to the game down south

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/hibs-stevie-mallan-reveals-how-paul-heckingbottom-improved-him-at-barnsley-1-4874105




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