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Joe6-2
05-02-2019, 01:58 PM
Something you've heard.....

What a load of rubbish.

I don't get why you post such rubbish

So I'm not allowed to post 'something I heard' not everything on here turns out to be true, but I think most fans want to hear things from fellow fans

Joe6-2
05-02-2019, 02:01 PM
Nah, not really.

I'm led to believe that all the folk who Leeann, on Rods orders, offered the job to, grassed her up to Neil Lennon so they're out of favour now.

Now no-one wants the job because they've seen how underhand RP operates and how much money he's siphoning off for himself and STF.

I'm not saying that's definitely true, but it's what I was telt.

You're a funny guy. So no one should post anything they hear unless they can prove its factual? Of course it's not like anyone posts rumours on .net!!

The 90+2
05-02-2019, 02:03 PM
So I'm not allowed to post 'something I heard' not everything on here turns out to be true, but I think most fans want to hear things from fellow fans

I appreciate you posting what you heard Joe! Sounds like it's got many holes in the story but it's good to share.

Joe6-2
05-02-2019, 02:07 PM
I appreciate you posting what you heard Joe! Sounds like it's got many holes in the story but it's good to share.

Cheers 90+2, it does sound strange, but I just thought I'd share

Danderhall Hibs
05-02-2019, 02:19 PM
So I'm not allowed to post 'something I heard' not everything on here turns out to be true, but I think most fans want to hear things from fellow fans

You’re right mate - my mate got the same message as you (no mention of Mixu). The club should’ve been planning on the basis that the manager was on the edge of resigning various times but it now doesn’t make sense that we’re 10/11 days in and no replacement.

Iain G
05-02-2019, 02:39 PM
You’re right mate - my mate got the same message as you (no mention of Mixu). The club should’ve been planning on the basis that the manager was on the edge of resigning various times but it now doesn’t make sense that we’re 10/11 days in and no replacement.

It does if you take into account the number of applications we have maybe had? Lots to wade through and they need to get this one right!

Hibbyradge
05-02-2019, 02:41 PM
You're a funny guy. So no one should post anything they hear unless they can prove its factual? Of course it's not like anyone posts rumours on .net!!

Post what you want, whether you've heard it or made it up, but don't get all huffy when you get challenged about it or someone takes the mickey.

I'm not sure what reaction you expected that story to receive on here, but when it looks like it's yet another made up fantasy designed to attack the board, it won't go unquestioned.

Remember too, it also raises the question as to why you decided to post it when it's clearly puts LD and RP in a bad light.

Over the years, people have become very sensitive to that.

But hey ho, peace, love and Hibs for the cup. :aok:

scooby
05-02-2019, 02:41 PM
You’re right mate - my mate got the same message as you (no mention of Mixu). The club should’ve been planning on the basis that the manager was on the edge of resigning various times but it now doesn’t make sense that we’re 10/11 days in and no replacement.




Just because they allegedly approached someone, doesn't guarantee that the person would be interested.

scooby
05-02-2019, 02:44 PM
Post what you want, whether you've heard it or made it up, but don't get all huffy when you get challenged about it or someone takes the mickey.

I'm not sure what reaction you expected that story to receive on here, but when it looks like it's yet another made up fantasy designed to attack the board, it won't go unquestioned.

Remember too, it also raises the question as to why you decided to post it when it's clearly puts LD and RP in a bad light.

Over the years, people have become very sensitive to that.

But hey ho, peace, love and Hibs for the cup. :aok:


I'm not sure that it puts them in a bad light, they are just doing what they should be doing if they have cause to believe the manager might walk.

flash
05-02-2019, 02:47 PM
You're a funny guy. So no one should post anything they hear unless they can prove its factual? Of course it's not like anyone posts rumours on .net!!

That message was doing the rounds. I got it too but no idea of its veracity.

blackpoolhibs
05-02-2019, 02:50 PM
I have had my ear to the ground since Lennon's departure, and i've heard nothing apart from what i can only describe is traffic noises?

Hibbyradge
05-02-2019, 02:52 PM
I'm not sure that it puts them in a bad light, they are just doing what they should be doing if they have cause to believe the manager might walk.

In which case it's a non-story. Managers can get poached anytime so clubs should have an idea of who'd be interested in taking the role on.

However, the inference from some was that it was done sneakily behind NLs back with a view to replacing him.

The words used were "Now in Leeann's defence my belief is Petrie was the driving force."

Why would Leeann need defending if the story was just about her doing her job?

I'm also unclear as to what was meant by "my belief", but I'll let that slide.

matty_f
05-02-2019, 02:53 PM
I have had my ear to the ground since Lennon's departure, and i've heard nothing apart from what i can only describe is traffic noises?

:faf:

Hibbyradge
05-02-2019, 02:54 PM
I have had my ear to the ground since Lennon's departure, and i've heard nothing apart from what i can only describe is traffic noises?

It must have affected you deeply if you've been that pished since he left! :greengrin

HUTCHYHIBBY
05-02-2019, 03:04 PM
I have had my ear to the ground since Lennon's departure

Seems as if you really need that operation! 😉

Danderhall Hibs
05-02-2019, 03:12 PM
It does if you take into account the number of applications we have maybe had? Lots to wade through and they need to get this one right!

If they’d identified a short list then I’d expect it to be done quicker unless there was a big surprise/leftfield candidate that sent his cv in.

Tornadoes70
05-02-2019, 03:41 PM
Something you've heard.....

What a load of rubbish.

I don't get why you post such rubbish

Completely agree. Some posters make things up as they go along.

Normally begins with 'Not in the know but someone telt me'

I'd be gobsmacked if Leeann approached a manager concerning taking over from Lenny while he was still active manager.

Sounds and smells of utter bs and just adds to increasing garbage that gets posted on here.

Unless you can back such harmful rumours up with at least a modicum of validation then best not posting it or at the very least don't be surprised when its trashed on here.

Mon the Cabbage!!!

blackpoolhibs
05-02-2019, 03:50 PM
Seems as if you really need that operation! 😉

Thursday matey, thank fu.. :eek:

tamig
05-02-2019, 06:02 PM
If they’d identified a short list then I’d expect it to be done quicker unless there was a big surprise/leftfield candidate that sent his cv in.

Perhaps the guys on the shortlist have all been appointed into new roles since the shortlist was compiled. As someone else mentioned earlier, there’s no guarantee that any of our shortlist guys - whoever they may be - would even want the job. I’d rather the club took their time to get the right man.

Lago
05-02-2019, 06:08 PM
Give the guy a break trying to do temporary job as best he can as honestly as he can. There are so many experts on here it beggers belief.

truehibernian
05-02-2019, 06:09 PM
Kenny Millar and the PR guys have to do much much more than at present - club has lost its way in the marketing and PR front and this really needs addressed if we are to maintain momentum in the large support Leeann and the previous team built up. The lack of creativity doesn’t just stem from on the pitch - last 3 years have seen some imaginative, creative and award winning projects. I hope they take that on board because thus far it’s very dull.

proud_and_green
05-02-2019, 06:10 PM
I have to say that the posts about SJM's transfer to Villa sum up the flavour of a lot of the posts on here for me at the moment. The suggestions that we should have sold to Celtic because they would have played ball with us now over Allan fly in the face of the prevailing attitude at the time which was resoundingly "we must not sell to Celtic", "never strengthen a competitor", "cheeky buggers just expect us to capitulate and let them have what they want"...etc, etc.... Now with some it is a complete reversal of opinion and the Board are pillaried for doing exactly what most wanted.

It's a bit like a 70s sitcom/farce.

Danderhall Hibs
05-02-2019, 06:37 PM
Perhaps the guys on the shortlist have all been appointed into new roles since the shortlist was compiled. As someone else mentioned earlier, there’s no guarantee that any of our shortlist guys - whoever they may be - would even want the job. I’d rather the club took their time to get the right man.

We always take our time whether it’s the right or wrong man.

Thing is we were apparently trying to get ahead of the game, it’s cost us Lennon and now we’re taking our time again.

Hibbyradge
05-02-2019, 06:44 PM
We always take out time whether it’s the right or wrong man.

Thing is we were apparently trying to get ahead of the game, it’s cost us Lennon and now we’re taking our time again.

Supposedly, not apparently.

Signed: A Pedant.

Eyrie
05-02-2019, 07:54 PM
I have to say that the posts about SJM's transfer to Villa sum up the flavour of a lot of the posts on here for me at the moment. The suggestions that we should have sold to Celtic because they would have played ball with us now over Allan fly in the face of the prevailing attitude at the time which was resoundingly "we must not sell to Celtic", "never strengthen a competitor", "cheeky buggers just expect us to capitulate and let them have what they want"...etc, etc.... Now with some it is a complete reversal of opinion and the Board are pillaried for doing exactly what most wanted.

It's a bit like a 70s sitcom/farce.

If Celtc had made us a fair offer at the start instead of trying to rip us off then they would have got McGinn.

They didn't and our Board got it right in holding out for a sensible offer.

Viva_Palmeiras
05-02-2019, 08:16 PM
Kenny Millar and the PR guys have to do much much more than at present - club has lost its way in the marketing and PR front and this really needs addressed if we are to maintain momentum in the large support Leeann and the previous team built up. The lack of creativity doesn’t just stem from on the pitch - last 3 years have seen some imaginative, creative and award winning projects. I hope they take that on board because thus far it’s very dull.

Cant help but hear "here we are now entertain us" ;)

im no expert but could you articulate where it's lost it's way? What was the lag time between someone leaving and rcruiting a decent replacement? Hopefully worth waiting for but could that explain any perceived lack of momentum? There's only cup jinx busting op, only so much you can do with a drone before it becomes "samey" innovation is hard...

proud_and_green
05-02-2019, 08:22 PM
If Celtc had made us a fair offer at the start instead of trying to rip us off then they would have got McGinn.

They didn't and our Board got it right in holding out for a sensible offer.Agreed, and bear in mind - as has already been said - the final say was SJMs as the two offers were ultimately the same.

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Crazyhorse
06-02-2019, 10:21 AM
I have had my ear to the ground since Lennon's departure, and i've heard nothing apart from what i can only describe is traffic noises?

I've tried that, heard many riders approaching...

MrRobot
06-02-2019, 11:00 AM
I cant even begin to fathom why people think selling McGinn to Cetlic was the best piece of business we could have hoped far.

Who cares about the relationship between both clubs, personally I hate that people think that Hibs and Celtic are close. We sold him to Villa as they paid the price and McGinn was blown away by what they had to offer. Celtic could have secured him if they came in with the right bid sooner.

Hibs have also put a sell on fee in and I would expect to see McGinn move on from Aston Villa leaving Hibs with a future fee.

The 90+2
06-02-2019, 11:04 AM
Is LD the highest paid director? If so some wage increase according to this: https://footballeconomyv2.blogspot.com/2019/02/hibernian-keep-wages-under-control.html looking at the accounts. Almost double the average wage of the playing squad.

Blaster
06-02-2019, 11:04 AM
I cant even begin to Fathon why people think selling McGinn to Cetlic was the best piece of business we could have hoped far.

Who cares about the relationship between both clubs, personally I hate that people think that Hibs and Celtic are close. We sold him to Villa as they paid the price and McGinn was blown away by what they had to offer. Celtic could have secured him if they came in with the right bid sooner.

Hibs have also put a sell on fee in and I would expect to see McGinn move on from Aston Villa leaving Hibs with a future fee.

Even if Allan and Christie were permanent to us as part of the deal? Do you think we’d be where we are in the league if we had those 2 this season?

Sometimes the lower financial deal may have on the park benefits

K-Zazu
06-02-2019, 11:05 AM
Does Leanne post on hibs.net? She’s not very active on twitter at all these days

Hibs4185
06-02-2019, 11:18 AM
Agreed, and bear in mind - as has already been said - the final say was SJMs as the two offers were ultimately the same.

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Both offers might have been the same eventually-eventually being the key word, but there is a far greater chance of mcginn being sold for big money by Aston Villa and therefore netting us a bigger sell on fee.

If he had went to Celtic he might’ve done a Scott brown and stayed there for the rest of his career. Even if he did get a move similar to Armstrong it would have been £6-£8 million whereas if he proves himself in the championship it may be £15-£20 million.

Aston Villa offer is far better for hibs.

Beefster
06-02-2019, 11:23 AM
Does Leanne post on hibs.net? She’s not very active on twitter at all these days

Probably because, any time she posts on Twitter, she ends up getting abuse.

J-C
06-02-2019, 11:25 AM
Probably because, any time she posts on Twitter, she ends up getting abuse.

Yep all the numpty Jambos an Huns give her a lot of grief.

CapitalGreen
06-02-2019, 11:26 AM
Yep all the numpty Jambos an Huns give her a lot of grief.

Plenty Hibs fans giving her grief too.

J-C
06-02-2019, 11:28 AM
Plenty Hibs fans giving her grief too.

Tbh I've not seen her post for a while, she did get a lot of hassle just after the summer window

JimBHibees
06-02-2019, 11:28 AM
Both offers might have been the same eventually-eventually being the key word, but there is a far greater chance of mcginn being sold for big money by Aston Villa and therefore netting us a bigger sell on fee.

If he had went to Celtic he might’ve done a Scott brown and stayed there for the rest of his career. Even if he did get a move similar to Armstrong it would have been £6-£8 million whereas if he proves himself in the championship it may be £15-£20 million.

Aston Villa offer is far better for hibs.

Did Villa not offer about double his wage offered at Parkhead? If so might have had something to do with his decision. :greengrin

Smartie
06-02-2019, 11:29 AM
Is LD the highest paid director? If so some wage increase according to this: https://footballeconomyv2.blogspot.com/2019/02/hibernian-keep-wages-under-control.html looking at the accounts. Almost double the average wage of the playing squad.

That's quite an interesting site, I've never seen it before.

You would probably expect LD to get a decent wage hike upon promotion.

I wonder if she got less than anticipated for the three years we spent in the Championship? When she joined we were in the Premier League and whilst we weren't exactly thriving, I don't think she'd have expected us to go down. To be earning third less than expected for three years would be a bit of a blow.

hibsbollah
06-02-2019, 11:30 AM
Does Leanne post on hibs.net? She’s not very active on twitter at all these days

I'm thinking she's either majorhibs or hermit crab. Not INK, just a feeling I have.

HUTCHYHIBBY
06-02-2019, 11:33 AM
Thursday matey, thank fu.. :eek:

Good luck G! 🚑 ☺

MrRobot
06-02-2019, 11:46 AM
Even if Allan and Christie were permanent to us as part of the deal? Do you think we’d be where we are in the league if we had those 2 this season?

Sometimes the lower financial deal may have on the park benefits

Id probably still rather we didnt sell to a rival and instead looked to gain the highest fee and potential future fee.

Nutmegged
06-02-2019, 01:08 PM
I have to say that the posts about SJM's transfer to Villa sum up the flavour of a lot of the posts on here for me at the moment. The suggestions that we should have sold to Celtic because they would have played ball with us now over Allan fly in the face of the prevailing attitude at the time which was resoundingly "we must not sell to Celtic", "never strengthen a competitor", "cheeky buggers just expect us to capitulate and let them have what they want"...etc, etc.... Now with some it is a complete reversal of opinion and the Board are pillaried for doing exactly what most wanted.

It's a bit like a 70s sitcom/farce.

I think it's a bit of both to be honest, when Celtic enquired and we made it pretty well known our asking price was £4m they knew we were at it but decided to lowball us in retaliation and both parties just refused point blank to be realistic with one another, as a Hibs fan I'd rather not see McGinn at another Scottish club however when he's gone he's gone and it really doesn't matter who he goes to.

What does matter though is Hibs and its undeniable the relationship we had with Celtic, Stokes, Henderson, Ambrose, McGeouch, Allan and Commons all played parts for us over the last four years, some minor, some hugely significant, guys on wages we wouldn't get close to and it cannot be overlooked the contribution those players played in our recent success and the upswing in fans through the gates - In hindsight it probably would've been better for us for McGinn to go to Celtic, we'd likely have had Allan on a full-time contract right now and someone like Hayes or Morgan on loan (possibly even Leigh when he's ready to return)

I'm all for the club getting the best deal available but longterm maybe the best deal wasn't the obvious deal here, it'd also be churlish to go with the "****** them, we'll go it alone" attitude because their signing strategy is such that they'll always have players who could walk into our team but wouldn't feature for them, it'd be daft to alienate that pathway.

Rod and Lawwell clearly have a problem with each other though, that seems quite obvious and the sooner they patch up their differences the better because at the moment neither club is benefiting from it.

The 90+2
06-02-2019, 01:44 PM
That's quite an interesting site, I've never seen it before.

You would probably expect LD to get a decent wage hike upon promotion.

I wonder if she got less than anticipated for the three years we spent in the Championship? When she joined we were in the Premier League and whilst we weren't exactly thriving, I don't think she'd have expected us to go down. To be earning third less than expected for three years would be a bit of a blow.

Yeah sounds about right.

Paisley Hibby
06-02-2019, 01:55 PM
I think it's a bit of both to be honest, when Celtic enquired and we made it pretty well known our asking price was £4m they knew we were at it but decided to lowball us in retaliation and both parties just refused point blank to be realistic with one another, as a Hibs fan I'd rather not see McGinn at another Scottish club however when he's gone he's gone and it really doesn't matter who he goes to.

What does matter though is Hibs and its undeniable the relationship we had with Celtic, Stokes, Henderson, Ambrose, McGeouch, Allan and Commons all played parts for us over the last four years, some minor, some hugely significant, guys on wages we wouldn't get close to and it cannot be overlooked the contribution those players played in our recent success and the upswing in fans through the gates - In hindsight it probably would've been better for us for McGinn to go to Celtic, we'd likely have had Allan on a full-time contract right now and someone like Hayes or Morgan on loan (possibly even Leigh when he's ready to return)

I'm all for the club getting the best deal available but longterm maybe the best deal wasn't the obvious deal here, it'd also be churlish to go with the "****** them, we'll go it alone" attitude because their signing strategy is such that they'll always have players who could walk into our team but wouldn't feature for them, it'd be daft to alienate that pathway.

Rod and Lawwell clearly have a problem with each other though, that seems quite obvious and the sooner they patch up their differences the better because at the moment neither club is benefiting from it.

If the deal included players coming to us we'd have had to give more (or even most) of any cash in the deal to St. Mirren. And even if Celtic had agreed to a sell on clause similar to the one we got from AV, what do you think would be greater - a % of his transfer value as a Celtic player or as a English Championship/Premier League player?

Celtic haven't done us any favours in recent times and never have. They always do what is in their own interests and that's just as it should be.

My_Wife_Camille
06-02-2019, 02:07 PM
I'm thinking she's either majorhibs or hermit crab. Not INK, just a feeling I have.
I’m not ITK but I heard she’s Danderhall Hibs and Blackpool Hibs. Not my place to say but have two accounts and replying to yourself is pretty weird if true

SuperSirJMcginn
06-02-2019, 03:42 PM
Does Leanne post on hibs.net? She’s not very active on twitter at all these days

She needs to have a proper word with herself if she's posting on here instead of sorting out the mess she's made.

Go and get us a manager and back him with the remit he gets us playing the flair football we all know and love.

bigwheel
06-02-2019, 03:46 PM
She needs to have a proper word with herself if she's posting on here instead of sorting out the mess she's made.

Go and get us a manager and back him with the remit he gets us playing the flair football we all know and love.



hmmm.

Hiber-nation
06-02-2019, 03:47 PM
hmmm.

Aye absolutely!

bigwheel
06-02-2019, 03:49 PM
Aye absolutely!


I give him 2 weeks...

CapitalGreen
06-02-2019, 03:50 PM
hmmm.

Subtlety is never their strong suite.

bigwheel
06-02-2019, 03:50 PM
Subtlety is never their strong suite.


haha. so true

Bostonhibby
06-02-2019, 03:52 PM
Subtlety is never their strong suite.Am thinking shell suit[emoji6]

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The 90+2
06-02-2019, 03:53 PM
She needs to have a proper word with herself if she's posting on here instead of sorting out the mess she's made.

Go and get us a manager and back him with the remit he gets us playing the flair football we all know and love.

Do shut up.

ski1875
06-02-2019, 03:54 PM
With all the nonsense criticism of our Chief Exec coming from the media I just wanted to express my support for her and her ongoing contribution to the club.

The criticism of Leeann and the club comes from mainly ex-Old Firm players and Glasgow-based journalists each of whom admits they don't know the details of what happened with Neil Lennon. It hasn't stopped them from choosing a side though.

It is clear from most of their comments that they don't watch Hibs much and know little about the club.

Anyone who watches Hibs regularly will know that Lenny has been struggling more and more this season. I really like Neil Lennon and, FWIW, had faith in his ability to turn things around. However - I'm not sure he did once he became aware that, for the second summer in a row, his transfer dealings had been poor. The team has deteriorated this season in distinct parallel with Lenny's increasingly eccentric and erratic behaviour. Is this a coincidence?

Our manager's outbursts - once amusing - became somewhat embarrassing and his treatment of Kamberi was as shocking as it was bewildering.

In truth - and completely contrary to some suggestions - my opinion is that it was our manager rather than his players who was failing to deal with the pressure. It's a different kind of pressure from that which is often emphasised exists at the Glasgow clubs. However IMHO it is one which implies that there comes a point when you have to work on improving what you have rather than overcoming mistakes you've made in transfer dealings by more transfer dealings. That's what "being a manager" is in my view.

That's the sort of pressure that increases the further down the leagues you go I reckon. Perhaps having only previously managed at clubs with big budgets it is not something with which Lenny has sufficient experience?

The critical journalists also appear to understand little about disciplinary processes. My understanding would be that, in most organisations, when certain types of allegation are made against an employee then proper process would be that they ought to be suspended while a formal investigation is carried out. There appears to have been no focus on this in the media.

I believe that neither party fancied the consequences of a lengthy dispute. Neil Lennon may not have wanted his management reputation tarnished via details being made public about his behaviour. Hibs may not have wanted a protracted legal process undermining club morale and the ability to move on.

It would be natural would it not for any compromise agreement to include, at the insistence of both sides' representatives, clauses that exonerate the other of any wrongdoing. The media fixate on the fact that the joint statement included a sentence exonerating Neil and Garry. Is that such a huge surprise? IMO it will have been one price Hibs had to pay for the agreement. That's all.

Leeann Dempster has been at the helm during a period of revival for our club at all levels. As I understand it she has been the key driver in much of our progress. She is widely respected and popular amongst supporters and I've yet to see any persuasive argument from critical journalists that her actions have been ill-advised in this or any other matter.

I hope Leeann remains at Hibs for many years to come.

PS - no - I'm not Leeann Dempster :wink:

post this to Chris sutton on Twitter

SuperSirJMcginn
06-02-2019, 03:55 PM
You all think a chief executive of one of the top clubs in the country should be spending time posting on a messageboard? Call me old fashioned but I don't.

NL had us playing very competitive football in a tight league, why sack him now? Let him see out the end of the season and take it from there. Its a daft move and the next move needs to be spot on.

CropleyWasGod
06-02-2019, 03:56 PM
You all think a chief executive of one of the top clubs in the country should be spending time posting on a messageboard? Call me old fashioned but I don't.

NL had us playing very competitive football in a tight league, why sack him now? Let him see out the end of the season and take it from there. Its a daft move and the next move needs to be spot on.

I think she should.

Keeps her paws off the car crash she's made of our club.


Is that how it goes?

:rolleyes:

SuperSirJMcginn
06-02-2019, 04:00 PM
I think she should.

Keeps her paws off the car crash she's made of our club.


Is that how it goes?



:rolleyes:

No quite. There's no denying she's made an arse of the NL situation though. Surely no one can deny that. The guy was a winner and we let him go. Sorry, paid him off! Going to have to point out the good side of that one to me I'm afraid.

bigwheel
06-02-2019, 04:00 PM
You all think a chief executive of one of the top clubs in the country should be spending time posting on a messageboard? Call me old fashioned but I don't.

NL had us playing very competitive football in a tight league, why sack him now? Let him see out the end of the season and take it from there. Its a daft move and the next move needs to be spot on.


I think we are all just wondering if your tattoo is 5-1 or 1874??

jacomo
06-02-2019, 04:01 PM
You all think a chief executive of one of the top clubs in the country should be spending time posting on a messageboard? Call me old fashioned but I don't.

NL had us playing very competitive football in a tight league, why sack him now? Let him see out the end of the season and take it from there. Its a daft move and the next move needs to be spot on.


How you’ve not been emptied yet is a mystery.

Admins either having the day off or enjoying the sport.

SuperSirJMcginn
06-02-2019, 04:04 PM
How you’ve not been emptied yet is a mystery.

Admins either having the day off or enjoying the sport.

Emptied for what?

Sorry if I'm not towing the line and pretending everything is rosey.

I disagree with emptying NL. I think it was the wrong thing to do

IngolstadtHarry
06-02-2019, 04:08 PM
How you’ve not been emptied yet is a mystery.

Admins either having the day off or enjoying the sport.

You'd empty everyone who refuses to toe the line and follow your agenda.
Perhaps, contrary to you, some of the admins believe in free debate.

familyman
06-02-2019, 04:11 PM
Cannot really comment on the way the exit happened without a full picture, but we need to recognise the image of club is tarnished and the frequency of managerial change is certainly a major concern..any business needs to be accountable so we fans need a fuller club explanation surely..we do not have to wait for the AGM for that?Personally I think we were lucky to get NL so things must have been traumatic for this change...we await the full explanation

IngolstadtHarry
06-02-2019, 04:14 PM
Cannot really comment on the way the exit happened without a full picture, but we need to recognise the image of club is tarnished and the frequency of managerial change is certainly a major concern..any business needs to be accountable so we fans need a fuller club explanation surely..we do not have to wait for the AGM for that?Personally I think we were lucky to get NL so things must have been traumatic for this change...we await the full explanation

Absolutely.
And I can't imagine that any of the names being put forward as possible candidates will survive 2019 in the job.

HUTCHYHIBBY
06-02-2019, 04:16 PM
Is it toe or tow? 😨

J-C
06-02-2019, 04:17 PM
Emptied for what?

Sorry if I'm not towing the line and pretending everything is rosey.

I disagree with emptying NL. I think it was the wrong thing to do

You still here, you've a game against Livi to go to.

bigwheel
06-02-2019, 04:17 PM
Absolutely.
And I can't imagine that any of the names being put forward as possible candidates will survive 2019 in the job.


want a 100 quid bet for the charity of our choice ?

SuperSirJMcginn
06-02-2019, 04:17 PM
Cannot really comment on the way the exit happened without a full picture, but we need to recognise the image of club is tarnished and the frequency of managerial change is certainly a major concern..any business needs to be accountable so we fans need a fuller club explanation surely..we do not have to wait for the AGM for that?Personally I think we were lucky to get NL so things must have been traumatic for this change...we await the full explanation

The whole episode and the way it was handled was farcical.

And that's down to the owner and chairwoman.

IngolstadtHarry
06-02-2019, 04:18 PM
Is it toe or tow? 😨

It is actually toe - as in when a line of people stand with their toes level with a line.

CropleyWasGod
06-02-2019, 04:18 PM
Is it toe or tow? 😨

Toe.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toe_the_line

CropleyWasGod
06-02-2019, 04:19 PM
The whole episode and the way it was handled was farcical.

And that's down to the owner and chairwoman.

Rod has transitioned?

Well blow me down.

SuperSirJMcginn
06-02-2019, 04:19 PM
You still here, you've a game against Livi to go to.

That was funny about 6 posts ago. Anything to add to the debate?

J-C
06-02-2019, 04:19 PM
The whole episode and the way it was handled was farcical.

And that's down to the owner and chairwoman.

What has Sir Tom done, he's the owner and the last time I looked Petrie was a man.

bigwheel
06-02-2019, 04:19 PM
The whole episode and the way it was handled was farcical.

And that's down to the owner and chairwoman.


Our owner doesn't run the club and we have a CEO here.. it is Hearts that have an active owner and a "chairwoman"..

IngolstadtHarry
06-02-2019, 04:20 PM
want a 100 quid bet for the charity of our choice ?

I'm personally against gambling but I dare say that a bookmaker would give you rather good odds (in your favour) if you wished to make such a bet.

The 90+2
06-02-2019, 04:20 PM
No quite. There's no denying she's made an arse of the NL situation though. Surely no one can deny that. The guy was a winner and we let him go. Sorry, paid him off! Going to have to point out the good side of that one to me I'm afraid.

Winning all the way to 7th place this year? It was time for Lennon to go. And by the way LD brought in the player through tough negotiations that you have as your username. The good side is we will have a manager or head coach that wants to be here and the players may want to play for. Another positive Sir David will sign a new deal and finally our new manager from down south as it’s looking like won’t be going to another club in our leagues functions.

bigwheel
06-02-2019, 04:21 PM
I'm personally against gambling but I dare say that a bookmaker would give you rather good odds (in your favour) if you wished to make such a bet.


fair enough on the gambling - Not a chance I would get good odds on that.

We can chat next Jan when the appointed manager remains in post.....

The 90+2
06-02-2019, 04:22 PM
I'm personally against gambling but I dare say that a bookmaker would give you rather good odds (in your favour) if you wished to make such a bet.

Of course they would give good odds because we will bring in an established coach which is the right fit and back him just as we backed Lennon.

IngolstadtHarry
06-02-2019, 04:24 PM
fair enough on the gambling - Not a chance I would get good odds on that.

We can chat next Jan when the appointed manager remains in post.....

Ask a bookmaker for a quote on the next Hibs manager being still in the job on the 1st January 2020. I think that you'll get a surprise.

bigwheel
06-02-2019, 04:25 PM
Ask a bookmaker for a quote on the next Hibs manager being still in the job on the 1st January 2020. I think that you'll get a surprise.


No, I have more confidence and support for our Board than you do. Not a gambler either - but would have taken that bet with you for charity.

Didn't agree with exiting Lennon - but still understand the integrity of how our club is run and happy to back them to get it right again..

SuperSirJMcginn
06-02-2019, 04:26 PM
Winning all the way to 7th place this year? It was time for Lennon to go. And by the way LD brought in the player through tough negotiations that you have as your username. The good side is we will have a manager or head coach that wants to be here and the players may want to play for. Another positive Sir David will sign a new deal and finally our new manager from down south as it’s looking like won’t be going to another club in our leagues functions.

I accept that when we let him go we were in 7th but looks how tight the league is. All it takes is a couple of wins and results to go out way and we're pushing for 4th again in the tightest league there's been in years.

Hibbyradge
06-02-2019, 04:52 PM
No quite. There's no denying she's made an arse of the NL situation though. Surely no one can deny that. The guy was a winner and we let him go. Sorry, paid him off! Going to have to point out the good side of that one to me I'm afraid.

He was not paid off.

He signed an agreement to get his suspension lifted. That agreement included a gagging clause for both sides and no compensation.

Hibs got rid of him after his behaviour was unacceptable, and his reputation remained as intact as it could have.

Hibbyradge
06-02-2019, 04:54 PM
The whole episode and the way it was handled was farcical.

And that's down to the owner and chairwoman.

It was the fault of the manager.

IngolstadtHarry
06-02-2019, 04:58 PM
It was the fault of the manager.

Sorry, is this the right room for an argument - or have I stumbled into the 'LD house of worship'? :wink:

hibsbollah
06-02-2019, 05:01 PM
I’m not ITK but I heard she’s Danderhall Hibs and Blackpool Hibs. Not my place to say but have two accounts and replying to yourself is pretty weird if true

Danderhall Hibs and Blackpool Hibs have had a lovechild who has become Hibs CEO? Incredible scenes.

GibbytheHibby2
06-02-2019, 05:02 PM
Without knowing any of the details of why Lennon is no longer here...... and on my instinct ..... I'd join LDs corner every time.

PatHead
06-02-2019, 05:07 PM
That's quite an interesting site, I've never seen it before.

You would probably expect LD to get a decent wage hike upon promotion.

I wonder if she got less than anticipated for the three years we spent in the Championship? When she joined we were in the Premier League and whilst we weren't exactly thriving, I don't think she'd have expected us to go down. To be earning third less than expected for three years would be a bit of a blow.

Doubtless she will have received bonuses for cup win, promotion and season ticket sales as well as other targets such as fan ownership..

Worth every penny when you look at the mess we were in.

Hibbyradge
06-02-2019, 05:10 PM
Sorry, is this the right room for an argument - or have I stumbled into the 'LD house of worship'? :wink:

You stumbled across a post which rightly blamed the manager for the situation we currently find ourselves in. :wink:

IngolstadtHarry
06-02-2019, 05:10 PM
He was not paid off.

He signed an agreement to get his suspension lifted. That agreement included a gagging clause for both sides and no compensation.

Hibs got rid of him after his behaviour was unacceptable, and his reputation remained as intact as it could have.

Lennon still had a year and a half on his contract. He was being pushed out - not leaving voluntarily.
Anyone who believes that he left, after signing that preposterous statement of lies, without carrying with him a substantial compensation package, is being naive in the extreme.

Slim Shady
06-02-2019, 05:10 PM
He was not paid off.

He signed an agreement to get his suspension lifted. That agreement included a gagging clause for both sides and no compensation.

Hibs got rid of him after his behaviour was unacceptable, and his reputation remained as intact as it could have.

Sorry but that is absolute guff!

Hibbyradge
06-02-2019, 05:15 PM
Lennon still had a year and a half on his contract. He was being pushed out - not leaving voluntarily.
Anyone who believes that he left, after signing that preposterous statement of lies, without carrying with him a substantial compensation package, is being naive in the extreme.

It's not naive in the slightest.

Go and show the joint statement to any HR professional. They will tell you what the likely reality was.

The suspension was lifted as part of the agreement. Both sides agreed to say that was the case.

Do you think Hibs went to NL and said, "If you let us write a glowing tribute to you and pay you a wedge, we'll lift the suspension and we won't continue with the disciplinary proceedings?

SuperSirJMcginn
06-02-2019, 05:16 PM
Lennon still had a year and a half on his contract. He was being pushed out - not leaving voluntarily.
Anyone who believes that he left, after signing that preposterous statement of lies, without carrying with him a substantial compensation package, is being naive in the extreme.

Spot on.

The only way NL leaves quietly is if he's paid to do so.

Hibbyradge
06-02-2019, 05:16 PM
Sorry but that is absolute guff!

It's absolutely the case.

Go and read the JOINT statement again.

Hibbyradge
06-02-2019, 05:18 PM
Spot on.

The only way NL leaves quietly is if he's paid to do so.

Not a chance.

He left quietly because we agreed not to proceed with disciplinary action. His reputation remained unscathed and he left.

The Modfather
06-02-2019, 05:19 PM
I accept that when we let him go we were in 7th but looks how tight the league is. All it takes is a couple of wins and results to go out way and we're pushing for 4th again in the tightest league there's been in years.

Or we could have tumbled down the league further given, as you say, how tight the league is. I’m greatful to Lennon for last season but now not particularly dissapointed he’s gone as this season there was more negatives than just the results IMO.

As it is, the reason he is no longer here doesn’t appear to be as a result of onfield performances. So what he might or might not have achieved the rest of the season is a moot point.

IngolstadtHarry
06-02-2019, 05:20 PM
Sorry but that is absolute guff!

Hibbyradge knows it is guff - but for some reason he is persisting with this nonsense. He is even embarrassing the LD fan club with these statements.

PatHead
06-02-2019, 05:20 PM
Spot on.

The only way NL leaves quietly is if he's paid to do so.

What if he was going to be sacked and have to go through a tribunal where all the dirty washing was going to be hung out?

Hibbyradge
06-02-2019, 05:21 PM
Hibbyradge knows it is guff - but for some reason he is persisting with this nonsense. He is even embarrassing the LD fan club with these statements.

You're in denial.

Slim Shady
06-02-2019, 05:22 PM
It's not naive in the slightest.

Go and show the joint statement to any HR professional. They will tell you what the likely reality was.

The suspension was lifted as part of the agreement. Both sides agreed to say that was the case.

Do you think Hibs went to NL and said, "If you let us write a glowing tribute to you and pay you a wedge, we'll lift the suspension and we won't continue with the disciplinary proceedings?

Why would any employer, never mind anyone as shrewd as Rod agree to pay off NL rather than continue disciplinary proceeding and sack him for serious misconduct?

Pay him nowt!

SuperSirJMcginn
06-02-2019, 05:26 PM
What if he was going to be sacked and have to go through a tribunal where all the dirty washing was going to be hung out?

I'd suggest because NL being the type of guy he is would have a few things to say for himself and would make sure it was done very publicly.

Paying him off and issuing a joint statement covering both parties was the lesser of the two evils.

The Modfather
06-02-2019, 05:26 PM
Hibbyradge knows it is guff - but for some reason he is persisting with this nonsense. He is even embarrassing the LD fan club with these statements.

For all your complaints about being shouted down for any board criticisms, and there being a pro board party line on here you don’t half like to shout down those that have a different opinion to yourself.

Rumble de Thump
06-02-2019, 05:29 PM
Who's looking after Kickbak while all the Hearts fans are over here?

Frank Moon
06-02-2019, 05:30 PM
Why would any employer, never mind anyone as shrewd as Rod agree to pay off NL rather than continue disciplinary proceeding and sack him for serious misconduct?

Pay him nowt!

They will would if they were worried about having to pay Lifetime Earnings if they lost at Tribunal

IngolstadtHarry
06-02-2019, 05:32 PM
For all your complaints about being shouted down for any board criticisms, and there being a pro board party line on here you don’t half like to shout down those that have a different opinion to yourself.

Some would regard my comments as being simply logical rather than 'shouting down'.
But we have certainly had voices on here wondering about why the dissidents haven't yet been 'emptied' - and that is a rather sinister development. Is it not, Jacomo?

IngolstadtHarry
06-02-2019, 05:33 PM
Who's looking after Kickbak while all the Hearts fans are over here?

Don't you ever get tired of coming out with inane stuff like that?

Hibbyradge
06-02-2019, 05:34 PM
Why would any employer, never mind anyone as shrewd as Rod agree to pay off NL rather than continue disciplinary proceeding and sack him for serious misconduct?

Pay him nowt!

Deals for people to leave rather than be formally sacked are fairly common.

Hibs got the end result that they needed, without throwing NL under a bus.

Sacking NL would have led tall sorts of recriminations and dirty laundry being washed in public. They would also have wanted to avoid the continuing distraction that would have been caused to the club and the team.

This way, NL gets to walk away with his public persona almost intact, Hibs get a cost efficient conclusion and they get to concentrate on moving forward.

SuperSirJMcginn
06-02-2019, 05:36 PM
Who's looking after Kickbak while all the Hearts fans are over here?

Messageboards would become obselete if everyone had the same point of view.

IngolstadtHarry
06-02-2019, 05:36 PM
Deals for people to leave rather than be formally sacked are fairly common.

Hibs got the end result that they needed, without throwing NL under a bus.

Sacking NL would have led tall sorts of recriminations and dirty laundry being washed in public. They would also have wanted to avoid the continuing distraction that would have been caused to the club and the team.

This way, NL gets to walk away with his public persona almost intact, Hibs get a cost efficient conclusion and they get to concentrate on moving forward.

Lol, talk about being in denial. :tee hee:

Hibbyradge
06-02-2019, 05:36 PM
They will would if they were worried about having to pay Lifetime Earnings if they lost at Tribunal

Hibs could have sacked him for poor performance and simply paid up his contract.

There was no need for joint statements from Hibs in that case.

McD
06-02-2019, 05:36 PM
Why would any employer, never mind anyone as shrewd as Rod agree to pay off NL rather than continue disciplinary proceeding and sack him for serious misconduct?

Pay him nowt!


There was likely very little payment.

NL gets to leave with his reputation intact, no disciplinary process to go through, Hibs dont have to deal with a drawn out tribunal, make a large payoff, and can move on to a new head coach.

Hibbyradge
06-02-2019, 05:37 PM
Lol, talk about being in denial. :tee hee:

How very persuasive.

IngolstadtHarry
06-02-2019, 05:38 PM
Messageboards would become obselete if everyone had the same point of view.

But your yam stuff isn't a view - it's just tedious knee-jerk nonsense. A bit like primary school kids sticking their tongues out.

McD
06-02-2019, 05:39 PM
Some would regard my comments as being simply logical rather than 'shouting down'.
But we have certainly had voices on here wondering about why the dissidents haven't yet been 'emptied' - and that is a rather sinister development. Is it not, Jacomo?


Some would point out the lack of logic

McD
06-02-2019, 05:40 PM
Lol, talk about being in denial. :tee hee:


Not denial. Actual application of logic, as opposed to what you have been saying

Fergos
06-02-2019, 05:41 PM
No quite. There's no denying she's made an arse of the NL situation though. Surely no one can deny that. The guy was a winner and we let him go. Sorry, paid him off! Going to have to point out the good side of that one to me I'm afraid.

Ah the “a winner” quote comes again.

Wasnt a winner in the transfer market where he signed 33 players in 2.5 years with only a handful being deemed a success.

Wasn’t a winner when we went across the city for the derbies. Wasn’t a winner when struggling to beat St Mirren / Dundee and the like at home.

Wasnt a winner leaving us 8th in the table from the poor form we have shown for most of the year.

I would have kept NL on until at least the end of the season however now he has gone and looking at his record over the piece I think it’s a stretch to continuously deem him a winner.

GGTTH

IngolstadtHarry
06-02-2019, 05:42 PM
Not denial. Actual application of logic, as opposed to what you have been saying

I can't help you if your grasp of English is rather tenuous.

IngolstadtHarry
06-02-2019, 05:44 PM
Ah the “a winner” quote comes again.

Wasnt a winner in the transfer market where he signed 33 players in 2.5 years with only a handful being deemed a success.

Wasn’t a winner when we went across the city for the derbies. Wasn’t a winner when struggling to beat St Mirren / Dundee and the like at home.

Wasnt a winner leaving us 8th in the table from the poor form we have shown for most of the year.

I would have kept NL on until at least the end of the season however now he has gone and looking at his record over the piece I think it’s a stretch to continuously deem him a winner.

GGTTH

Let's see how the next 5 work out for us.

Hibbyradge
06-02-2019, 05:45 PM
Let's see how the next 5 work out for us.

Where's that straw man smiley when you need one!

McD
06-02-2019, 05:46 PM
I can't help you if your grasp of English is rather tenuous.


My grasp of English is just fine thanks. And I’m quite happy without your help, given what you’ve been saying recently.

I can’t help you if you deliberately choose to make glib remarks aimed at deflecting from the fact you often don’t reply to the points made.

SquashedFrogg
06-02-2019, 05:48 PM
Messageboards would become obselete if everyone had the same point of view.

Similarly they become obsolete when weird characters feel the need to enter and consciously post crap.

Fergos
06-02-2019, 05:49 PM
Let's see how the next 5 work out for us.

If your referencing the next 5 games I dont think that will be representative of NLs time with us / or the new man in charge based purely on the fact that we are in a period of change and any new manager will need time, predominantly to sort out the team, selections, tactics and settle into the role, hardly the time to judge. And we did win the first game in months upon his departure at St Mirren.

That there is so much to sort is probably more representative of NLs time here, integral to why he isn’t is driven by the fact that he spent the £ available on a set of poor signings and didn’t manage to put his mark on the team in the way Stubbsy did - backed as he was by the same recruitment team that NL had at his disposal.

Time will tell.


GGTTH.

Hibbyradge
06-02-2019, 05:51 PM
If your referencing the next 5 games I dont think that will be representative of NLs time with us / or the new man in charge based purely on the fact that we are in a period of change and any new manager will need time, predominantly to sort out the team, selections, tactics and settle into the role, hardly the time to judge. And we did win the first game in months upon his departure at St Mirren.

That here is so much to sort is probably more representative of NLs time here, integral to why he isn’t is driven by the fact that he spent the £ available on a set of poor signings and didn’t manage to put his mark on the team in the way Stubbsy did - backed as he was by the same recruitment team that NL had at his disposal.

Time will tell.


GGTTH.

He means 5 managers.

That's how many we're going to get through in the next 4 seasons.

Fergos
06-02-2019, 05:54 PM
He means 5 managers.

That's how many we're going to get through in the next 4 seasons.

Time will tell. We’ll see.

GGTTH.

Lago
06-02-2019, 05:57 PM
It was the fault of the manager.
Head coach !

Lago
06-02-2019, 06:01 PM
You're in denial.
But it is guff.

Hibbyradge
06-02-2019, 06:09 PM
Time will tell. We’ll see.

GGTTH.

Indeed.

I think this Appleton chap sounds promising, but then, so did Butcher.

CropleyWasGod
06-02-2019, 06:11 PM
Messageboards would become obselete if everyone had the same point of view.

Granted, but opinions have to be based on facts and evidence. If you're of the opinion that our chair is female, it's going to devalue anything else that you post.

Saturday Boy
06-02-2019, 06:17 PM
Granted, but opinions have to be based on facts and evidence. If you're of the opinion that our chair is female, it's going to devalue anything else that you post.

In fairness, the poster may be French 😄

jacomo
06-02-2019, 06:18 PM
You'd empty everyone who refuses to toe the line and follow your agenda.
Perhaps, contrary to you, some of the admins believe in free debate.


Ha ha would I now?

Debate is fine, pretending to be a Hibby is not.

Easy enough?

CropleyWasGod
06-02-2019, 06:23 PM
In fairness, the poster may be French 😄

😂 We really are the lingua franca of the message board world.

Hibbyradge
06-02-2019, 06:23 PM
In fairness, the poster may be French 😄

👍

Fergos
06-02-2019, 06:35 PM
Indeed.

I think this Appleton chap sounds promising, but then, so did Butcher.

Lets just hope the new man unites the support and clubas a a whole by bringing success on the park. And scudding the jambos consistently!

GGTTH

matty_f
06-02-2019, 07:02 PM
Hibbyradge knows it is guff - but for some reason he is persisting with this nonsense. He is even embarrassing the LD fan club with these statements.

There are a few posters on here just now who have mentioned party lines or, as you have, some LD fan club - and call out people for challenging their posts criticising or for hounding posters, but look at the language you're using here - what you're saying is that anyone who disagrees with you is part of a fan club rather than someone with a differing opinion.

So is it ok for you to do it but typical Hibs.net/usual suspects/party line when someone disagrees with you?

matty_f
06-02-2019, 07:05 PM
I can't help you if your grasp of English is rather tenuous.

And again, patronising posts.

Just Alf
06-02-2019, 07:23 PM
I can't help you if your grasp of English is rather tenuous.Reading the thread I'm wondering if there's a system glitch which has swapped you guys user names!!!

Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk

J-C
06-02-2019, 07:37 PM
Is this the I hate the board thread ?

Tedious bull**** from certain anti Hibs board posters, it's very hard to believe they claim to be Hibs supporters, personally the way they are having real nasty digs at Leeann and the board I have my doubts they are Hibs fans and if they are they should be ashamed.

Danderhall Hibs
06-02-2019, 07:38 PM
Is this the I hate the board thread ?

Tedious bull**** from certain anti Hibs board posters, it's very hard to believe they claim to be Hibs supporters, personally the way they are having real nasty digs at Leeann and the board I have my doubts they are Hibs fans and if they are they should be ashamed.

:agree:

Keith_M
06-02-2019, 07:40 PM
I see a couple of Dempster haters are tryingto cause trouble at the game tonight :rolleyes:

matty_f
06-02-2019, 07:42 PM
Is this the I hate the board thread ?

Tedious bull**** from certain anti Hibs board posters, it's very hard to believe they claim to be Hibs supporters, personally the way they are having real nasty digs at Leeann and the board I have my doubts they are Hibs fans and if they are they should be ashamed.

Can't be, I keep getting told we don't allow comments against the board...

J-C
06-02-2019, 07:46 PM
Can't be, I keep getting told we don't allow comments against the board...


I have nothing against people discussing the board and whether they're good or not but sometimes it looks like a gang attack on other posters and there's no discussion, just these are our views and if you don't like them we'll just keep repeating them until you agree. Tedious.

The Modfather
06-02-2019, 07:52 PM
Is this the I hate the board thread ?

Tedious bull**** from certain anti Hibs board posters, it's very hard to believe they claim to be Hibs supporters, personally the way they are having real nasty digs at Leeann and the board I have my doubts they are Hibs fans and if they are they should be ashamed.

I think some of the posters you’re referring to have an anti board agenda, some appear to be in some sort of Lennon cult and others are just trolls. With some a combination of each.

matty_f
06-02-2019, 07:54 PM
I think some of the posters you’re referring to have an anti board agenda, some appear to be in some sort of Lennon cult and others are just trolls. With some a combination of each.

Again, might just be voicing their opinions, no?

Kato
06-02-2019, 07:59 PM
Who's looking after Kickbak while all the Hearts fans are over here?

Rod Petrie.

The Modfather
06-02-2019, 08:02 PM
Again, might just be voicing their opinions, no?

There’s lots of posters that voice their opinion and add to a good debate, but there’s also a handful of other posters with no intention of actually debating. Preferring to patronise, repeat themselves without answer any counter points and, as far as I can see, troll.

matty_f
06-02-2019, 08:03 PM
There’s lots of posters that voice their opinion and add to a good debate, but there’s also a handful of other posters with no intention of actually debating. Preferring to patronise, repeat themselves without answer any counter points and, as far as I can see, troll.

:aok: fair point.