Official Site: JOINT STATEMENT: HIBERNIAN FC AND NEIL LENNON/GARRY PARKER

[jacomo]

You do realise it’s just an agreed respectful form of words to draw a line under the matter and let everyone walk away with dignity intact?


:agree:

Might be time for us fans to walk away from this story with our dignity intact too!

We’ve all shared our opinions (me included) and will disagree to some extent. But imo time to look forward. I’m hopeful this season can end positively.

[Sammy7nil]

We work within a budget, plenty of teams looking at the same players.

Re the St Mirren game didn't we win?

Do we want to compete with St Mirren or are we looking up the table?

[Hibbyradge]

Do we want to compete with St Mirren or are we looking up the table?

Please don't jump on the "he wasn't backed" bandwagon. That just clearly isn't the case as he said several times.

[Sammy7nil]

Please don't jump on the "he wasn't backed" bandwagon. That just clearly isn't the case as he said several times.

I am defo not, the post i responded to suggested it was fine because we beat St Mirren things are far from fine. I agree we have a squad that should and can compete at a better level than St Mirren

[Captain Trips]

Statement to me isn't a 100‰ statement of fact it's just a case of cutting clean and moving on.

I am quite happy to move on from 7th in the league.

[Frank Moon]

This was no ordinary parting of the ways. Someone’s judgement was flawed to send them away from EM and suspend them. They must have thought there was some sort of actionable misconduct

We ended up having a very messy situation which we didn’t need. Mutual consent or sackings don’t normally have all the praise and thanks in the formal statement. Nor do they say they specifically say they did nothing wrong.

I think we didn’t have enough grounds to take it further and had to concede therefore I don’t believe we didn’t have to pay them off.

I think it’s cost us in several ways.

Ps I haven’t dared look at the press yet because I know exactly what they will say about it.

[Scotty Leither]

Is this statement had emanated from that mob across the town we'd have been laughing our socks off.

[Bangkok Hibby]

Is this statement had emanated from that mob across the town we'd have been laughing our socks off.

Why? Its a perfectly acceptable, carefully worded statement to let everyone walk away guilt/blame free. Its exactly what we expected.

[FilipinoHibs]

This was no ordinary parting of the ways. Someone’s judgement was flawed to send them away from EM and suspend them. They must have thought there was some sort of actionable misconduct

We ended up having a very messy situation which we didn’t need. Mutual consent or sackings don’t normally have all the praise and thanks in the formal statement. Nor do they say they specifically say they did nothing wrong.

I think we didn’t have enough grounds to take it further and had to concede therefore I don’t believe we didn’t have to pay them off.

I think it’s cost us in several ways.

Ps I haven’t dared look at the press yet because I know exactly what they will say about it.

I think this is pure speculation. NlL given good service and we need to show some respect plus allow him to move to another role plus minimise the size of any pay off. IMO only but not speculating and just trying to rationalise how events have unfolded. Sure there are multiple nuances to the whole affair which we will never fully know about.

[el_fletch]

Tell you what lads...I do a lot of disciplinary meets at work & if I’d suspended a solid senior manager who eventually got found innocent and cost my company £six figures I’d be expecting the boot 👋

[Bangkok Hibby]

Oh my. Why are so many people reading this statement as "lennon is innocent"? IF he was, dont you think he'd have his lawyers all over Hibs for some major compo?
Its so obviously a well worded statement which suits both sides and allows everyone to move on. There's no mystery here.

[Beefster]

The statement from the club is embarrassing.

Your trousers falling down whilst giving a presentation at a new employers is embarrassing.

A statement from Hibs, not so much.

[Fuzzywuzzy]

21637

If you can't laugh you'll cry

[HibeeMassive]

Tell you what lads...I do a lot of disciplinary meets at work & if I’d suspended a solid senior manager who eventually got found innocent and cost my company £six figures I’d be expecting the boot 👋

You’ve no idea if it’s cost the club anything though??

[BoomtownHibees]

You’ve no idea if it’s cost the club anything though??

Do you think that he’s left with no payout?

[Danderhall Hibs]

Tell you what lads...I do a lot of disciplinary meets at work & if I’d suspended a solid senior manager who eventually got found innocent and cost my company £six figures I’d be expecting the boot 👋

He wasn’t found to be innocent though was he? It’s more like a not proven verdict?

Isn’t it? Maybe this is what the media are meaning about the statement being a bit “woolly”.

[hibsbollah]

Your trousers falling down whilst giving a presentation at a new employers is embarrassing.

A statement from Hibs, not so much.

This is going all Notts County.

[DetroitHibs]

Do you think that he’s left with no payout?

Thats the biggest problem with the statement, we literally know nothing. I can sit here and say this was all Dempster's doing, she ****** up. Someone else will say Lenny was throwing chairs and chinning players. We'll never know and nobody will be right or wrong. Was he paid, was he not, will remain a mystery just like the meeting roond at Rod's gaff back in the day.

[BoomtownHibees]

Thats the biggest problem with the statement, we literally know nothing. I can sit here and say this was all Dempster's doing, she ****** up. Someone else will say Lenny was throwing chairs and chinning players. We'll never know and nobody will be right or wrong. Was he paid, was he not, will remain a mystery just like the meeting roond at Rod's gaff back in the day.

It may show up in next years accounts however without actual “knowing” I would take an educated guess that there would be some sort of payout

[Brunswickbill]

Amanda Jones, an experienced employment lawyer is a member of Hibs’ Board of Directors. We can expect that anything that Hibs did was fully scrutinised by her.

Lennon is a fiery character. He’s blown up in front of the cameras during games. So it’s not beyond the possibility that similar events have happened behind the scenes.

Something serious must have happened to bring the club to stop him from taking thd game at St.Mirren.

Whatever it was must have been serious enough to merit disciplinary procedures.

Lennon isn’t the kind of guy who is going to take that kind of stuff lying down. He’s more likely to walk rather than have his reputation sullied and whatever has happened, single event or recurring incidences leading to the suspension from the St Mirren game, exposed in public.

Solution, after things have calmed down and lawyers have got together, it’s agreed that Lennon and co leave with reputation clear and each exchanging best wishes.

That’s my take on it. I’ve always liked Lennon and still do but in today’s employment climate managers are constrained by employment law just like everybody else. Something(s) happened that was severe enough to merit disciplinary action and Hibs have acted quickly to resolve the matter.

Time to move on. Thanks for the memories Lennie and all the best in the future. I’ll always remember the good times he brought to the club, but all good things come to an end.

[oldbutdim]

Paid up in full according to Radar Jackshun.

[Iain G]

Paid up in full according to Radar Jackshun.

Who took the statement at full face value and claims it's a public humiliation for Hibs. Idiot.

[Brizo]

Id suggest the statement and the precise wording of it will have been an integral part of the discussions between the club, Lennon and both sides legal advisors. It may reflect the clubs honest opinion but is just as likely to have been drawn up on the insistence of legal representatives, as part of reaching a negotiated settlement.Protecting clients reputations and future earnings potential can be just as important in these situations as any monetary payment.

[Mainstandman]

Tell you what lads...I do a lot of disciplinary meets at work & if I’d suspended a solid senior manager who eventually got found innocent and cost my company £six figures I’d be expecting the boot 👋

depends if that's a normal six figures or Stevie G is doing the calculation

[James Stephen]

Paid up in full according to Radar Jackshun.

The same guy who said Craig Whyte's wealth was off the radar.

Id respectfully suggest that his grasp of figures isnt all that.

[oldbutdim]

Who took the statement at full face value and claims it's a public humiliation for Hibs. Idiot.

Harsh.

I’m just passing it on.

[jeffers]

Hopefully Keith Jackson talking pish as usual when he claims NL’s contract was paid up in full. Am I correct in saying this would show up in the annual accounts ?

[Captain Trips]

Your trousers falling down whilst giving a presentation at a new employers is embarrassing.

A statement from Hibs, not so much.

Oh no were you at my presentation as well?

[DetroitHibs]

Hopefully Keith Jackson talking pish as usual when he claims NL’s contract was paid up in full. Am I correct in saying this would show up in the annual accounts ?

It probably will. Pretty sure Stokes was handsomely paid off after his antics. Nothing was said at the time, but showed up in the annual accounts.

[Iain G]

Harsh.

I’m just passing it on.

I meant Jackson is an idiot :-)

[Onion]

Id suggest the statement and the precise wording of it will have been an integral part of the discussions between the club, Lennon and both sides legal advisors. It may reflect the clubs honest opinion but is just as likely to have been drawn up on the insistence of legal representatives, as part of reaching a negotiated settlement.Protecting clients reputations and future earnings potential can be just as important in these situations as any monetary payment.

Of course is was. Every word would have been agreed and forensically analysed by both sides to create the agreed perception. It's a fudge and all those media hacks and ex-player pundits taking it at face value are idiots.

Bottom line is Hibs have got rid of an embarrassing, underperforming manager who had lost the dressing room and had no clue how to get Hibs out of the current mess. That summary has as much credence as a humiliating Hibs climbdown.

[Barney McGrew]

Paid up in full according to Radar Jackshun.

Which is confirmation that we didn’t pay them up in full then given his reliability :greengrin

[MWHIBBIES]

Imagine thinking Hibs are stupid enough to suspend him then have to pay him in full. No chance in hell.

[blackpoolhibs]

Thats the biggest problem with the statement, we literally know nothing. I can sit here and say this was all Dempster's doing, she ****** up. Someone else will say Lenny was throwing chairs and chinning players. We'll never know and nobody will be right or wrong. Was he paid, was he not, will remain a mystery just like the meeting roond at Rod's gaff back in the day.

Yet it's not stopped all and sundry making all sorts up, that is the only thing thats embarrassing here. :rolleyes:

[Smartie]

Imagine thinking Hibs are stupid enough to suspend him then have to pay him in full. No chance in hell.

When I read the statement my instinct was that Lennon must have pretty good lawyers.

Lennon doesn't back down, ever, and he can't afford to have a black mark against his name at Hibs.

I reckon he'll have set some Rottweilers on us, possibly found the most minor procedural error, terrified Hibs with the thought of a long, drawn-out and expensive confrontation and managed to secure a decent pay-out (if not paid in full).

This is based on minimal evidence, but probably still more than Keith Jackson has access to.

[Hibbyradge]

Do you think that he’s left with no payout?

I'm certain of it.

[jacomo]

When I read the statement my instinct was that Lennon must have pretty good lawyers.

Lennon doesn't back down, ever, and he can't afford to have a black mark against his name at Hibs.

I reckon he'll have set some Rottweilers on us, possibly found the most minor procedural error, terrified Hibs with the thought of a long, drawn-out and expensive confrontation and managed to secure a decent pay-out (if not paid in full).

This is based on minimal evidence, but probably still more than Keith Jackson has access to.


Lennon / his team somehow persuaded us it should be a joint statement, for one... don’t think I’ve seen that before.

Ordinarily such things come from the club alone (regardless of how many people involved in drafting it).

[ACLeith]

Amanda Jones, an experienced employment lawyer is a member of Hibs’ Board of Directors. We can expect that anything that Hibs did was fully scrutinised by her.

Lennon is a fiery character. He’s blown up in front of the cameras during games. So it’s not beyond the possibility that similar events have happened behind the scenes.

Something serious must have happened to bring the club to stop him from taking thd game at St.Mirren.

Whatever it was must have been serious enough to merit disciplinary procedures.

Lennon isn’t the kind of guy who is going to take that kind of stuff lying down. He’s more likely to walk rather than have his reputation sullied and whatever has happened, single event or recurring incidences leading to the suspension from the St Mirren game, exposed in public.

Solution, after things have calmed down and lawyers have got together, it’s agreed that Lennon and co leave with reputation clear and each exchanging best wishes.

That’s my take on it. I’ve always liked Lennon and still do but in today’s employment climate managers are constrained by employment law just like everybody else. Something(s) happened that was severe enough to merit disciplinary action and Hibs have acted quickly to resolve the matter.

Time to move on. Thanks for the memories Lennie and all the best in the future. I’ll always remember the good times he brought to the club, but all good things come to an end.

Great summation. Covers the known facts with common sense filling in the gaps that nobody knows

[MWHIBBIES]

When I read the statement my instinct was that Lennon must have pretty good lawyers.

Lennon doesn't back down, ever, and he can't afford to have a black mark against his name at Hibs.

I reckon he'll have set some Rottweilers on us, possibly found the most minor procedural error, terrified Hibs with the thought of a long, drawn-out and expensive confrontation and managed to secure a decent pay-out (if not paid in full).

This is based on minimal evidence, but probably still more than Keith Jackson has access to.

Neil Lennon won't have access to better lawyers than Tom Farmer..

[Wakeyhibee]

When I read the statement my instinct was that Lennon must have pretty good lawyers.

Lennon doesn't back down, ever, and he can't afford to have a black mark against his name at Hibs.

I reckon he'll have set some Rottweilers on us, possibly found the most minor procedural error, terrified Hibs with the thought of a long, drawn-out and expensive confrontation and managed to secure a decent pay-out (if not paid in full).

This is based on minimal evidence, but probably still more than Keith Jackson has access to.

Also based on no knowledge/evidence but probably still more than journos, it could be one outburst too many due to said issues. Hibs don't wanna ruin his future but can't continue as is.

Hence not sacked, not resigned.

We don't know and neither does the arse that is KJ

[One Day Soon]

Neil Lennon won't have access to better lawyers than Tom Farmer..

It's got absolutely nothing to do with who has the better lawyers once you are above a certain level on this stuff. It's all about did the club get things right in every single detail procedurally and - much, much more importantly - what does a good compromise that both sides can live with look like, rather than both sides facing a Niagara Falls of cash flooding out to lawyers and pointless reputational damage.

[PatHead]

Great summation. Covers the known facts with common sense filling in the gaps that nobody knows

Amanda is now the equivalent of a judge for employment tribunals. If anyone knows their way around employment law it will be her.

I am sure any deal will be favourable to Hibs.

[EH26]

Surely the main thing is lennon is gone He's never changed from his days as a player . An arrogant man who throws his toys out the pram when he doesn't get what he wants. The press will back him to the hilt ,because he is always good for a story. Could have maybe become a good manager if he had grown up .Glad Hibs have had enough of his antics and slung him out.

[Paisley Hibby]

Who took the statement at full face value and claims it's a public humiliation for Hibs. Idiot.

I agree. And the statement looks like it's been drafted to give that impression. But it doesn't actually say they've done nothing wrong; rather that they are not GUILTY of any wrongdoing. To me this is like when a court case is halted on a technicality - the accused is then not guilty but that doesn't necessarily mean they didn't do anything wrong.

Having said all that, the reference to contract having been paid in full doesn't come from our statement. His source for that (assuming it's true) must be someone connected with Lennon? So the non-disclosure agreement was maybe not tight enough on that?

[Smartie]

Amanda is now the equivalent of a judge for employment tribunals. If anyone knows their way around employment law it will be her.

I am sure any deal will be favourable to Hibs.

That doesn't mean that somebody else, somewhere else won't have done something that is difficult/ impossible to defend.

Under those circumstances you try to cut your losses rather than try to win a fight that you can't.

The best HR people know that.

[Sioux]

Keith ******* Jackson?

Are there really people who believe that idiot? If so they have the IQ of a plant.

[Lester B]

Amanda Jones, an experienced employment lawyer is a member of Hibs’ Board of Directors. We can expect that anything that Hibs did was fully scrutinised by her.

Lennon is a fiery character. He’s blown up in front of the cameras during games. So it’s not beyond the possibility that similar events have happened behind the scenes.

Something serious must have happened to bring the club to stop him from taking thd game at St.Mirren.

Whatever it was must have been serious enough to merit disciplinary procedures.

Lennon isn’t the kind of guy who is going to take that kind of stuff lying down. He’s more likely to walk rather than have his reputation sullied and whatever has happened, single event or recurring incidences leading to the suspension from the St Mirren game, exposed in public.

Solution, after things have calmed down and lawyers have got together, it’s agreed that Lennon and co leave with reputation clear and each exchanging best wishes.

That’s my take on it. I’ve always liked Lennon and still do but in today’s employment climate managers are constrained by employment law just like everybody else. Something(s) happened that was severe enough to merit disciplinary action and Hibs have acted quickly to resolve the matter.

Time to move on. Thanks for the memories Lennie and all the best in the future. I’ll always remember the good times he brought to the club, but all good things come to an end.

I've read through this entire thread and I'm amazed and at times incredulous at some of the things some people are saying. Others seem to get it. Was going to write something but this post nails it.

This is the best possible outcome to the situation and I can't believe people are saying otherwise

[Sammy7nil]

I'm certain of it.

Bold statement any reason why you are so certain?

[Lago]

I'm certain of it.
What evidence do you have to support that statement?

[easty]

What evidence do you have to support that statement?

I thought we were all working on a 'wild assumptions and no evidence necessary' type basis on .net at the moment?

[Lago]

I thought we were all working on a 'wild assumptions and no evidence necessary' type basis on .net at the moment?
Certainly seems to be the way some are handling it.

[Lester B]

Certainly seems to be the way some are handling it.

So how should we view and/or handle it?

[Not In The Know]

Paid up in full according to Radar Jackshun.


No chance on earth hibs would release that statement unless it saved them a significant cash sum.

[Lago]

So how should we view and/or handle it?
I don't know to be honest, but you obviously have an opinion care to share?

[easty]

So how should we view and/or handle it?

I say - riot.

If this isn't good cause for a good old fashioned - take to the streets and set stuff on fire - riot...then what is?

What do we want?

To know exactly how much of Lennons contract was paid up!

When do we want it?

As soon as Keith Jackson can tell us!

[Lago]

:greengrin
I say - riot.

If this isn't good cause for a good old fashioned - take to the streets and set stuff on fire - riot...then what is?

What do we want?

To know exactly how much of Lennons contract was paid up!

When do we want it?

As soon as Keith Jackson can tell us!

[Lester B]

I don't know to be honest, but you obviously have an opinion care to share?

My opinion is that this is the only way that this matter could have been handled and the club statement is a textbook example of how to deal with such an employment situation.

[southsider]

Looks like we will never get the truth

The truth ? We could not handle the truth.

[IWasThere2016]

The statement from the club is embarrassing.

I am no fan of RP, but this has been handled properly. Agreements signed and payments to sever contracts made.

[IWasThere2016]

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/neil-lennons-contract-paid-up-13930193

[K-Zazu]

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/neil-lennons-contract-paid-up-13930193

Some of that is an absolute disgrace what a ‘journalist’

[poolman]

Some of that is an absolute disgrace what a ‘journalist’


" Journalist " is not the word I would describe that guy

He is a moron of epic proportions

[silverhibee]

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/neil-lennons-contract-paid-up-13930193

Any chance of a copy paste job so we aren't infecting our laptops with that rag :thumbsup:

[Lester B]

No chance on earth hibs would release that statement unless it saved them a significant cash sum.

:top marks

[lapsedhibee]

Any chance of a copy paste job so we aren't infecting our laptops with that rag :thumbsup:

Why bother? You know it's going to be a tsunami of pish.

[IWasThere2016]

From the Record

Neil Lennon’s contract paid up in full as Hibs perform embarrassing climbdown

The Easter Road club have exonerated the manager and Garry Parker of any wrong doing

Hibs have been forced into a humiliating public climbdown after being forced to exonerate Neil Lennon and Garry Parker of any wrong doing despite booting them out of the club last week

And Record Sport understands both men have had their contracts paid up in full in a sensational twist to the story that saw the manager and his assistant black-balled by the club following a furious post-mortem to a midweek defeat at Motherwell.

In a statement released late on Wednesday afternoon, Easter Road chairman Rod Petrieconfirmed that Lennon and Parker have now left Easter Road by ‘mutual consent’.

But the statement also stressed that they had not been sacked and cleared both of any misconduct during the explosive team meeting at East Mains on Friday which ended with chief executive Leeann Dempster suspending them from the club.

It also revealed that those suspensions were lifted following an internal probe believed to been headed up by Petrie.

The extraordinary Hibs statement read: “The management team of Neil Lennon and Garry Parker has left the club by mutual consent.

[Danderhall Hibs]

He never read the statement did he?

[Rumble de Thump]

From the Record

Neil Lennon’s contract paid up in full as Hibs perform embarrassing climbdown

The Easter Road club have exonerated the manager and Garry Parker of any wrong doing

Hibs have been forced into a humiliating public climbdown after being forced to exonerate Neil Lennon and Garry Parker of any wrong doing despite booting them out of the club last week

And Record Sport understands both men have had their contracts paid up in full in a sensational twist to the story that saw the manager and his assistant black-balled by the club following a furious post-mortem to a midweek defeat at Motherwell.

In a statement released late on Wednesday afternoon, Easter Road chairman Rod Petrieconfirmed that Lennon and Parker have now left Easter Road by ‘mutual consent’.

But the statement also stressed that they had not been sacked and cleared both of any misconduct during the explosive team meeting at East Mains on Friday which ended with chief executive Leeann Dempster suspending them from the club.

It also revealed that those suspensions were lifted following an internal probe believed to been headed up by Petrie.

The extraordinary Hibs statement read: “The management team of Neil Lennon and Garry Parker has left the club by mutual consent.

It's riddled with so many lies and statements randomly plucked out of the copywriter's backside, it has to be a Keith Jackson special.

[JimBHibees]

From the Record

Neil Lennon’s contract paid up in full as Hibs perform embarrassing climbdown

The Easter Road club have exonerated the manager and Garry Parker of any wrong doing

Hibs have been forced into a humiliating public climbdown after being forced to exonerate Neil Lennon and Garry Parker of any wrong doing despite booting them out of the club last week

And Record Sport understands both men have had their contracts paid up in full in a sensational twist to the story that saw the manager and his assistant black-balled by the club following a furious post-mortem to a midweek defeat at Motherwell.

In a statement released late on Wednesday afternoon, Easter Road chairman Rod Petrieconfirmed that Lennon and Parker have now left Easter Road by ‘mutual consent’.

But the statement also stressed that they had not been sacked and cleared both of any misconduct during the explosive team meeting at East Mains on Friday which ended with chief executive Leeann Dempster suspending them from the club.

It also revealed that those suspensions were lifted following an internal probe believed to been headed up by Petrie.

The extraordinary Hibs statement read: “The management team of Neil Lennon and Garry Parker has left the club by mutual consent.

At least Keith is being consistent as he was very critical of all the Rangers statements penned by his ex-boss. Well wasnt he? :greengrin

[snedzuk]

From the Record

Neil Lennon’s contract paid up in full as Hibs perform embarrassing climbdown

The Easter Road club have exonerated the manager and Garry Parker of any wrong doing

Hibs have been forced into a humiliating public climbdown after being forced to exonerate Neil Lennon and Garry Parker of any wrong doing despite booting them out of the club last week

And Record Sport understands both men have had their contracts paid up in full in a sensational twist to the story that saw the manager and his assistant black-balled by the club following a furious post-mortem to a midweek defeat at Motherwell.

In a statement released late on Wednesday afternoon, Easter Road chairman Rod Petrieconfirmed that Lennon and Parker have now left Easter Road by ‘mutual consent’.

But the statement also stressed that they had not been sacked and cleared both of any misconduct during the explosive team meeting at East Mains on Friday which ended with chief executive Leeann Dempster suspending them from the club.

It also revealed that those suspensions were lifted following an internal probe believed to been headed up by Petrie.

The extraordinary Hibs statement read: “The management team of Neil Lennon and Garry Parker has left the club by mutual consent.

I'd sign anything to avoid an internal probe headed up by petrie.

[Hibbyradge]

I'd sign anything to avoid an internal probe headed up by petrie.

Everyone to their own, I suppose.

[Lester B]

He never read the statement did he?

To be fair he probably can't read. Dictates his articles with the use of technology and a long suffering sub editor. I understand he's also not allowed sharp objects either. Health & Safety reasons

[CraigHibee]

to me, there's much more gone on that what is being said in the media, imo i think it's more a case of "lets not destroy lennon's career" and they are calling it a mutual separation along with not revealing the details of what went on potentially saving us money for a pay off as well, have we paid up their contracts? who knows for sure, the record seem to think we have but i don't trust an awful lot that's printed in that rag