Paul Hanlon’s Epitaph

[Heckys Wheel]

“Other than the goal, did ok”

Sums the ****** up.

[Since90+2]

“Other than the goal, did ok”

Sums the ****** up.

Harsh.

Hanlon is a good spfl standard centre half and has been excellent for us. He has not played at a higher level because he is not good enough but that doesn't justify abusing him.

[Callum_62]

“Other than the goal, did ok”

Sums the ****** up.

nice strike though

[Beefster]

He’s not the player that he has been for the past few seasons but, ffs, have we really lowered ourselves to calling players, who have given their careers to Hibs, whatever ****** is hiding?

[Allant1981]

To be fair to him he is just back from injury so never going to be 100% match fit and sharp, was a cracking goal though

[tamig]

He’s not the player that he has been for the past few seasons but, ffs, have we really lowered ourselves to calling players, who have given their careers to Hibs, whatever ****** is hiding?

The sort of pish I’m sure we’ll see plenty of tonight.

[loanheadhibby]

nice strike though

Was a lovely strike but how on earth did he turn so easy and get a shot away?

[Viva_Palmeiras]

What would Paul say about ChazD’s epitaph ?

[Malthibby]

Hanlon is clearly not fit, his mobility is limited and it's not the first time he's been done & it has cost us, but he's a total Hibby
& will be hurting as much as any of us.
Slagging him off is utterly classless.

[MWHIBBIES]

Laughable to blame him. It was a shot from 30 yards FFS.

[Hibs Class]

What would Paul say about ChazD’s epitaph ?

Probably Chaz who?

[.Sean.]

“Other than the goal, did ok”

Sums the ****** up.
😂 nae bother Maldini

[Crab apple]

He shouldn't be immune from criticism. Too easily turned tonight and has been poor for the last few games.

[SChibs]

If you get turned 30 yards from goal you get annoyed but chances are the opposition don't score. Unlucky for hanlon the gunts did. Just unlucky imo

[Connollys11]

He was decent in the second half like.

[B.H.F.C]

To be fair to him he is just back from injury so never going to be 100% match fit and sharp, was a cracking goal though

He came back too early and did nothing but give goals away.

He’s now come back again and contributing to giving goals away again.

Not good enough from him.

[Heckys Wheel]

He was decent in the second half like.

Always decent for a parts of the game. Usually out-muscled, bullied and out fought for other parts. Pish

[Coach Jon]

He was decent in the second half like.

Aw, thats okay then.:rolleyes:

[itslegaltender]

It was obvious that he should have closed down Lee, the boy had plenty time to turn and have a clear strike at goal.

[J-C]

He got turned a little but come on it was pretty good strike from 20 odd yards, it was probably the only decent shot on target all day by them.

[flash]

“Other than the goal, did ok”

Sums the ****** up.

Agree with first sentence. Nae need for the second.

[emerald green]

Hanlon is clearly not fit, his mobility is limited and it's not the first time he's been done & it has cost us, but he's a total Hibby
& will be hurting as much as any of us.
Slagging him off is utterly classless.

If Hanlon is "clearly not fit", why is he playing in a very physical derby match? Just asking. :confused:

[matty_f]

He’s not the player that he has been for the past few seasons but, ffs, have we really lowered ourselves to calling players, who have given their careers to Hibs, whatever ****** is hiding?

Scottish Cup winning players. Shameful abuse.

[Jones28]

“Other than the goal, did ok”

Sums the ****** up.

Well goodnight folks, that's enough Hibs for me for one day.

[lyonhibs]

Scottish Cup winning players. Shameful abuse.

They are not exempt from criticism. This, however, is a load of *****

[Brightside]

This site is full of utter roasters now.

[NAE NOOKIE]

Been off it a bit since returning from injury ….. but this thread is just pish.

[Northernhibee]

Hanlon, Stevenson, McGregor and Gray are a back line that will be remembered for decades. Hanlon might not have a great game today but his epitaph will be of a Scottish cup winner and a tremendous servant to the club, like all four of them.

[Crab apple]

This site is full of utter roasters now.

Poor thread title but your slavish defence of Hanlon on multiple threads marks you down as a prime roaster. He was poor tonight and has been since returning from injury.

[Rumble de Thump]

This site is full of utter roasters now.

It's been riddled with Hearts and The Rangers fans for a few years.

[St.Kristopher]

Not so long ago we were critical of every Scotland team that did not include him. ‘Man Up...Man down...Man up...Man down’ We are Hibernian FC...I am Hanlon!

[Beefster]

This site is full of utter roasters now.


It's been riddled with Hearts and The Rangers fans for a few years.

I know neither of you mean me because I’m an extremely valued member of the community but this is ironic because the OP has been a member longer than both of you.

[Hibernia&Alba]

I'm giving credit to the scorer, not blaming the defender on this yin. It was a great hit. Hanlon didn't do much wrong.

[calumhibee1]

I'm giving credit to the scorer, not blaming the defender on this yin. It was a great hit. Hanlon didn't do much wrong.

9 times out of 10 you'll get away with defending like Hanlon because the opponent won't usually score from 25 yards on their weak foot. The fact they scored has highlighted a mistake that was probably made numerous times over the game by other players but didn't result in a goal. Not great defending by Hanlon but like you I'd be more inclined to just hold our hands up and say fair play, great hit rather than criticise Hanlon for it.

[CraigHibee]

nice strike though

Exactly, not a lot could be done about that, I haven't seen the highlights but it looked a good goal

[Viva_Palmeiras]

“Other than the goal, did ok”

Sums the ****** up.

Hibs Class eh?

[Sioux]

Useless as he is, Berra wouldn't have allowed a player to turn and get a shot away.

One on one defending is not Hanlon's strong point, but should do better.

[Hibernia&Alba]

Useless as he is, Berra wouldn't have allowed a player to turn and get a shot away.

One on one defending is not Hanlon's strong point, but should do better.

The guy was almost thirty yards out. Hanlon was tight on him, but it seemed to me he didn't want to give away the foul, so just jockeyed him, thinking it was in a safe area. It was then a great shot; the type of shot that rarely goes in. I wouldn't be too hard on Hanlon for it.

[Future17]

He shouldn't be immune from criticism. Too easily turned tonight and has been poor for the last few games.

He's only played the last two having missed the previous five. I don't think he was poor in the last two either.

Lennon said in his pre-match interview that Hanlon had had "something viral" on Friday night but had chosen to play. Fair play to him and certainly doesn't deserve the abuse in the OP.

[Viva_Palmeiras]

The guy was almost thirty yards out. Hanlon was tight on him, but it seemed to me he didn't want to give away the foul, so just jockeyed him, thinking it was in a safe area. It was then a great shot; the type of shot that rarely goes in. I wouldn't be too hard on Hanlon for it.

Unless... let the self flagllation commence/continue.

[Brightside]

https://twitter.com/skysportsstatto/status/1079076130483814400?s=21

This picture clearer indicates my point. Yes Hanlon should do better. But it’s not his job to close down a midfielder in that area. He’s ran 20 yards to do that whilst. Whitt, Efe, Darren, Slivka have let the player go. The right sided players should have been all over him. He should never have got that space.

[Hibernia&Alba]

https://twitter.com/skysportsstatto/status/1079076130483814400?s=21

This picture clearer indicates my point. Yes Hanlon should do better. But it’s not his job to close down a midfielder in that area. He’s ran 20 yards to do that whilst. Whitt, Efe, Darren, Slivka have let the player go. The right sided players should have been all over him. He should never have got that space.

I'm inclined to agree.

[calumhibee1]

https://twitter.com/skysportsstatto/status/1079076130483814400?s=21

This picture clearer indicates my point. Yes Hanlon should do better. But it’s not his job to close down a midfielder in that area. He’s ran 20 yards to do that whilst. Whitt, Efe, Darren, Slivka have let the player go. The right sided players should have been all over him. He should never have got that space.

I can't remember how the build up to the goal went but Lee picked the ball up bang in the centre of the pitch, possibly even slightly to our left hand side of the pitch. His turn took him over to the right side.

It should have been better dealt with all round but I'm not sure I'd say Hanlon shouldn't have had to be anywhere near him. Either way, the guy has hit a great strike and I don't think anyone is hugely to blame for it.

[neil7908]

We need to stop hammering players for perceived mistakes.

Paul could have done better but it was a great strike.

Our issues are in midfield and up front. The defence have been decent this season given the lack of protection.

[Allant1981]

https://twitter.com/skysportsstatto/status/1079076130483814400?s=21

This picture clearer indicates my point. Yes Hanlon should do better. But it’s not his job to close down a midfielder in that area. He’s ran 20 yards to do that whilst. Whitt, Efe, Darren, Slivka have let the player go. The right sided players should have been all over him. He should never have got that space.

It doesn't really though, that was where he ended up, he didn't start from there, I agree he shouldn't have been allowed to run through, I have a screen shot of it but have no idea how to do it on my phone

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[Brightside]

It came from a throw in. Efe sliced a basic clearance out on the right. We didn’t mark up correctly and the guy was able to pass a couple before getting a strike off.

[Allant1981]

It came from a throw in. Efe sliced a basic clearance out on the right. We didn’t mark up correctly and the guy was able to pass a couple before getting a strike off.

Think I've managed to do it, Lee clearly runs from the left hand side(unless I've got the wrong still)

[AgentDaleCooper]

This site is full of utter roasters now.

I genuinely wonder whether some folk 'support' hibs just to vent their own personal rage at something. Would hate to be their partners.

[B.H.F.C]

It came from a throw in. Efe sliced a basic clearance out on the right. We didn’t mark up correctly and the guy was able to pass a couple before getting a strike off.

He never passed a couple. He turned Hanlon. Hanlon was never more than a few yards from him.

It was crap from him, just admit it.

He’s made far too many errors leading to goals in his last few appearances. It’s not like him and he needs to improve after the break.

[BILLYHIBS]

Hanlon was first to the guy he should never have let the boy turn he unleashed a worldly **** happens!

I was worried about Hanlon just coming back from injury but apart from that mistake and a few wayward passes looked more like his old self last night

He will only keep getting better now returned to full fitness

GGTTH

[flash]

It came from a throw in. Efe sliced a basic clearance out on the right. We didn’t mark up correctly and the guy was able to pass a couple before getting a strike off.

Pass a couple? You are making things up now.

[where'stheslope]

Last night's game was a mirror image of the Ryan Stevenson goal followed by the Jamie MacDonald show from a few years back!
The goal was even scored from the same place!
I don't blame Hanlon for it, as he at least came out to try and close him down, others need to look at themselves as they let him go!!
We did enough to win or at least get a draw, but they appeared to want it more!!!

[Allant1981]

Pass a couple? You are making things up now.

Yup, he didn't pass anyone, as shown from the still I put on my post

[Brightside]

Yup, he didn't pass anyone, as shown from the still I put on my post

That still is ages before the strike? So if he doesn’t get past anyone how does he end up with a strike from less than 25 yards?

[Allant1981]

That still is ages before the strike? So if he doesn’t get past anyone how does he end up with a strike from less than 25 yards?

Watch the footage

[Brightside]

Watch the footage

Watched it plenty times now. And yes Hanlon should do better. But the team is massively out of shape during the passage of play. Hanlon has to come over due to Whit and McGregor being caught out by that ball.

[Allant1981]

Watched it plenty times now. And yes Hanlon should do better. But the team is massively out of shape during the passage of play. Hanlon has to come over due to Whit and McGregor being caught out by that ball.

I'm out now

[Wee Mickey]

“Other than the goal, did ok”

Sums the ****** up.
According to his dad, he was up most of Friday night being sick. Kudos to the guy for turning out when Ill.

[emerald green]

According to his dad, he was up most of Friday night being sick. Kudos to the guy for turning out when Ill.

If this is true, and I'm not saying it isn't, Hanlon really shouldn't have been playing in such a hard physical game.

It says a lot for him personally, and it also says a lot about the weakness of Hibs current squad (through injuries and players in Australia) that Lennon allowed Hanlon to play.

[Pete]

Woeful thread.

[Brightside]

I'm out now

Me too. There is something rotten in Denmark. And this thread is appalling. Our captain being hung out to dry for one mistake.

[Allant1981]

Me too. There is something rotten in Denmark. And this thread is appalling. Our captain being hung out to dry for one mistake.

But you were happy to blame others for the goal? Hanlon was at fault, doesnt matter how you dress it up, yes I get he is your pal or a relative of some sort but there are times where you can criticise him

[Brightside]

But you were happy to blame others for the goal? Hanlon was at fault, doesnt matter how you dress it up, yes I get he is your pal or a relative of some sort but there are times where you can criticise him

The difference is i didnt come on here blaming anyone for the goal. Its a good goal and there are mistakes in many areas that create the opportunity for Hearts. To go from that to create a Paul Hanlons Epitaph thread is disgustingly poor, but unfortunately typical of the way the forum has been heading over the last few years.

[Allant1981]

The difference is i didnt come on here blaming anyone for the goal. Its a good goal and there are mistakes in many areas that create the opportunity for Hearts. To go from that to create a Paul Hanlons Epitaph thread is disgustingly poor, but unfortunately typical of the way the forum has been heading over the last few years.

Aww I agree completely, think the OP was harsh as Hanlon has been a great servant to the club, and when fully fit again should be in the team every week

[Scouse Hibee]

He never passed a couple. He turned Hanlon. Hanlon was never more than a few yards from him.

It was crap from him, just admit it.

He’s made far too many errors leading to goals in his last few appearances. It’s not like him and he needs to improve after the break.

It was a great bit of play from Lee just admit it

[blackpoolhibs]

Full backs have to get there and block crosses from getting into the box, defenders have to stop the man they are marking getting shots away, its just how it is.

Hanlon was turned far too easily, and unlucky for him/us the guy scored.

Apart from that, i thought he played well enough, but he will be remembered in this game for that goal.

[Crab apple]

He's only played the last two having missed the previous five. I don't think he was poor in the last two either.

Lennon said in his pre-match interview that Hanlon had had "something viral" on Friday night but had chosen to play. Fair play to him and certainly doesn't deserve the abuse in the OP.

If he wasn’t fit then he shouldn’t have been playing.

[highland hibbee]

According to his dad, he was up most of Friday night being sick. Kudos to the guy for turning out when Ill.

Which is a lot more than can be said for Harry Potter back in 1986!!
Fair play to Paul.

[Liberal Hibby]

And the winner of the worst thread of 2018 goes to...

[truehibernian]

Which is a lot more than can be said for Harry Potter back in 1986!!
Fair play to Paul.

He also had to come in early from the warm up - Hanlon would play through illness and pain if he could. Shame others don’t have his mindset and will to win and play football.

[B.H.F.C]

It was a great bit of play from Lee just admit it

No problem admitting it was an excellent strike. Should never have been allowed to get it away though.

[brog]

https://twitter.com/skysportsstatto/status/1079076130483814400?s=21

This picture clearer indicates my point. Yes Hanlon should do better. But it’s not his job to close down a midfielder in that area. He’s ran 20 yards to do that whilst. Whitt, Efe, Darren, Slivka have let the player go. The right sided players should have been all over him. He should never have got that space.

This 100%. Hanlon also had the nous to push Lee on to his weaker foot. I doubt he'll ever hit another one as cleanly as that. Regardless of who was to blame for the goal though the level of abuse on this & other threads is IMO unacceptable, makes the Hibs Class banner seem a tad ironic. I'll support every Hibs player who gives 100%, that's all we can ask. Good SPFL players cant change into international stars & we have no god given right to win every game. I hate losing to them but life goes on & we'll be back.

[Viva_Palmeiras]

Is there a term for threads that attract wired to the moon comments ?

[Hermit Crab]

It's been riddled with Hearts and The Rangers fans for a few years.


You can always spot them, very low post counts. :agree:

[Hermit Crab]

It was a great bit of play from Lee just admit it

No, Hanlon got turned inside out and had to pay to get back in, the strike itself was good, should never have been allowed to get a shot away though.

[Hermit Crab]

According to his dad, he was up most of Friday night being sick. Kudos to the guy for turning out when Ill.


Well if that s the case he should have declared himself unfit. No use having a half fit defender in a derby.

[HibeeHibernian4]

If Hanlon was a signing we'd only made two or three seasons ago, some people would rate him much more highly than they do.

Instead, he has the 'baggage' of being part of some godawful Hibs sides and playing in some of our biggest/heaviest defeats. 5-1 against Hearts, 0-7 against Malmo, part of the Hibs side that went down (albeit while injured himself).

Since Stubbs, he absolutely improved into a very solid and capable centre back who's been touted for a Scotland call-up by many on here and a few in the media too. Last season he was almost as good as Efe at the back for us, and a big part of why we finished the table with the fourth fewest number of goals conceded.

This season, he's had problems with injuries and, quite simply, has not been up to scratch since he's returned. The pairing should be Porteous and Ambrose going forward and it's up to Hanlon to win his place back. Last night certainly didn't help his cause.

[Heckys Wheel]

Well if that s the case he should have declared himself unfit. No use having a half fit defender in a derby.

Thought he did ok last night, other than the goal. Hence the joke about the epitaph.

He is usually, almost always, better than average but he gets bullied too easily and we lose goals because of it. It’s annoying at the best of times, sickening when losing a derby.

[Hiber-nation]

Thought he did ok last night, other than the goal. Hence the joke about the epitaph.

He is usually, almost always, better than average but he gets bullied too easily and we lose goals because of it. It’s annoying at the best of times, sickening when losing a derby.

But do you still think he's a ******? Whatever that is.

[Scouse Hibee]

No, Hanlon got turned inside out and had to pay to get back in, the strike itself was good, should never have been allowed to get a shot away though.

It was a great turn and strike, that’s why he got the shot away just admit it.

[Scouse Hibee]

No problem admitting it was an excellent strike. Should never have been allowed to get it away though.

But he did, great turn and strike.

[B.H.F.C]

But he did, great turn and strike.

Aided by poor, weak defending.

[SquashedFrogg]

No, Hanlon got turned inside out and had to pay to get back in, the strike itself was good, should never have been allowed to get a shot away though.

Did someone not needlessly sclaff the ball out before they scored?

[Viva_Palmeiras]

Thought he did ok last night, other than the goal. Hence the joke about the epitaph.

He is usually, almost always, better than average but he gets bullied too easily and we lose goals because of it. It’s annoying at the best of times, sickening when losing a derby.

Hilarious so it was

[Scouse Hibee]

Aided by poor, weak defending.

Nope just a great bit of skill, there doesn’t always have to be someone at fault, just a great goal.

[B.H.F.C]

Nope just a great bit of skill, there doesn’t always have to be someone at fault, just a great goal.

You seriously think Hanlon defended it as well as he could?

[Captain Trips]

Paul Hanlon got done. Big deal him and every other defender in this league will be getting done plenty of times during career.

Funnily enough when I think of Paul Hanlon I think of equalisers and cup win. Its going to take a hell of a lot of mistakes to change that as first thought.

[B.H.F.C]

Paul Hanlon got done. Big deal him and every other defender in this league will be getting done plenty of times during career.

Funnily enough when I think of Paul Hanlon I think of equalisers and cup win. Its going to take a hell of a lot of mistakes to change that as first thought.

I don’t think anybody sensible would dispute that. I’ll remember him as being a cup winner more than I will last night, obviously.

However, at the moment we are toiling badly. And Hanlon has toiled in a number of the more recent games he’s played IMO. Two goals away against Dundee. One at Killie. Culpable last night.

There might have been reasons for it. But it is quite a big deal because it’s been costing us goals and, in turn, points. I think he’s a better player than that.

[Leith's finest]

He shouldn't be immune from criticism. Too easily turned tonight and has been poor for the last few games.

P!ss off lol, he been missing for weeks, brought back from injury early

[matty_f]

I don’t think anybody sensible would dispute that. I’ll remember him as being a cup winner more than I will last night, obviously.

However, at the moment we are toiling badly. And Hanlon has toiled in a number of the more recent games he’s played IMO. Two goals away against Dundee. One at Killie. Culpable last night.

There might have been reasons for it. But it is quite a big deal because it’s been costing us goals and, in turn, points. I think he’s a better player than that.

Hanlon's not match fit following his injury imho, he'll get better with games and hopefully people are able to give him those games without getting ripped into him for any mistakes he makes.

[Scouse Hibee]

You seriously think Hanlon defended it as well as he could?

Yes, it’s easy to look back and say someone should have done better, the boy done him and scored a great goal as simple as that.

[B.H.F.C]

Hanlon's not match fit following his injury imho, he'll get better with games and hopefully people are able to give him those games without getting ripped into him for any mistakes he makes.

The problem is we now don’t have a game for three weeks (with the exception of a friendly in Dubai). So how many games does he need following the winter break to get up to speed?

Hanlon is always going to make mistakes, as most defenders will. He’s just made too many lately. As I say, I think he’s a good player and it kind of sums us up at the moment in that far too many players are under performing.

[Pretty Boy]

A CB who isn't match fit got turned and the guy got a great strike away. It happens.

Hanlon has been a fine servant to Hibs for 10 years and has had far more good games than bad. I can forgive him a mistake. If he continues to perform below hos usual standards heading into the summer then the manager has something to think about with regards recuritment. I don't that being an issue though.

[Leith's finest]

Think the people going to dubia may be in for a let down

[SideBurns]

A CB who isn't match fit got turned and the guy got a great strike away. It happens.

Hanlon has been a fine servant to Hibs for 10 years and has had far more good games than bad. I can forgive him a mistake. If he continues to perform below hos usual standards heading into the summer then the manager has something to think about with regards recuritment. I don't that being an issue though.

This is a problem of the modern game in the media eye, imo. Every single move is analysed to death; maybe Hanlon shouldn't have let him turn, but he was still goalside and who expected the boy to stick it in the top corner from there?

If it hadn't resulted in a wonder goal which won the game, I doubt anyone could argue Hanlon didn't play very well, and in the 2nd half particularly provided the drive from the back on the left that we've missed in his absence. Certainly gave more in an attacking sense 2nd half than any of our midfielders.

[Hibernia&Alba]

This is a problem of the modern game in the media eye, imo. Every single move is analysed to death; maybe Hanlon shouldn't have let him turn, but he was still goalside and who expected the boy to stick it in the top corner from there?

If it hadn't resulted in a wonder goal which won the game, I doubt anyone could argue Hanlon didn't play very well, and in the 2nd half particularly provided the drive from the back on the left that we've missed in his absence. Certainly gave more in an attacking sense 2nd half than any of our midfielders.

I fully agree. Everything is micro-analysed. Hanlon didn't do much wrong; it was a great strike.

[Crab apple]

P!ss off lol, he been missing for weeks, brought back from injury early

I lol at most of your posts.

He has come back from injury too soon as I said earlier.

[Danderhall Hibs]

I fully agree. Everything is micro-analysed. Hanlon didn't do much wrong; it was a great strike.

You don’t need to micro analyse it to tell he let the guy have a yard to get the shot away. I’ve not seen it back yet but could tell from the F5 upper that’s what happened.

[Hibernia&Alba]

You don’t need to micro analyse it to tell he let the guy have a yard to get the shot away. I’ve not seen it back yet but could tell from the F5 upper that’s what happened.

He was tight on Lee and jockeyed him, at 25 plus yards. It's what defenders do in every game; it's just that, on this occasion, a wonder strike went in. With hindsight it's a case of 'shoulda coulda', but he didn't do a lot wrong.

[Danderhall Hibs]

He was tight on Lee and jockeyed him, at 25 plus yards. It's what defenders do in every game; it's just that, on this occasion, a wonder strike went in. With hindsight it's a case of 'shoulda coulda', but he didn't do a lot wrong.

Not a lot, but enough.

[Scouse Hibee]

He was tight on Lee and jockeyed him, at 25 plus yards. It's what defenders do in every game; it's just that, on this occasion, a wonder strike went in. With hindsight it's a case of 'shoulda coulda', but he didn't do a lot wrong.

Exactly, people blaming Hanlon for the goal are being ridiculous.

[MagicSwirlingShip]

My personal opinion is sometimes you just have to take your hat off to the opposition player for a great strike.

I’d also suggest that if he had turned onto his other foot (right) and struck then Paul may have got there as he would’ve been blocking the shot with his stronger foot (left). But he never, so here we are.

[Jonnyboy]

He was tight on Lee and jockeyed him, at 25 plus yards. It's what defenders do in every game; it's just that, on this occasion, a wonder strike went in. With hindsight it's a case of 'shoulda coulda', but he didn't do a lot wrong.

I keep reading the shot was from 25 and sometimes 30 yards. It wasn't, maybe 20. Check the highlights and the photo in Scotland on Sunday which clearly shows Hanlon and Lee and the D of the 18 yard box.

That aside, I agree with Scouse and others - it was a great strike. Paul got turned, it happens

[Danderhall Hibs]

I keep reading the shot was from 25 and sometimes 30 yards. It wasn't, maybe 20. Check the highlights and the photo in Scotland on Sunday which clearly shows Hanlon and Lee and the D of the 18 yard box.

That aside, I agree with Scouse and others - it was a great strike. Paul got turned, it happens

I thought that as well - I was sure it was on the edge of the box (not seen it back yet).

You disagree with scouse etc as they’re saying it was a great goal and PH couldn’t have done any better.

[Lancs Harp]

It was a good strike I think you can always look at goals you concede and say you could have done this that or the other better. They had a great strike and it went in. We had two great efforts, one hit the bar, the other the inside of the post. That's football for you. We'll stuff 'em next time.

[Jonnyboy]

I thought that as well - I was sure it was on the edge of the box (not seen it back yet).

You disagree with scouse etc as they’re saying it was a great goal and PH couldn’t have done any better.

I specifically meant the great strike :greengrin

[allmodcons]

He was tight on Lee and jockeyed him, at 25 plus yards. It's what defenders do in every game; it's just that, on this occasion, a wonder strike went in. With hindsight it's a case of 'shoulda coulda', but he didn't do a lot wrong.

If he made a mistake it was that he was too tight to Lee but, for me, it has been over analysed. It was a good turn and a tremendous strike. Paul Hanlon is very good SPL defender who has been a great servant to the club.

[Heckys Wheel]

Yours would be "wide mouthed classless fud lies here"

Oaft. That’s a sare yin. 🙄

[The Green Goblin]

Paul Hanlon

Hibs Captain
Represented Hibernian 2007-2018 in the Scottish domestic game Represented Hibernian in European competition
300+ Career appearances for Hibernian
Scottish Championship winner
Scottish Cup winner
Capped for Scotland
Goals: 16

[SquashedFrogg]

Paul Hanlon

Hibs Captain
Represented Hibernian 2007-2018 in the Scottish domestic game Represented Hibernian in European competition
300+ Career appearances for Hibernian
Scottish Championship winner
Scottish Cup winner
Capped for Scotland
Goals: 16

Aye but, aye but.... (insert attention seeking text here)

[NC1875]

He’s miles off Lee when he takes his first touch and then far too tight when he takes his second touch. Because Hanlons a hibby he gets an easy ride on here. Not good enough I’m afraid

[Viva_Palmeiras]

This site is full of utter roasters now.

My Ignore list has swelled from 0 a week ago to about 7 poetic really. All Zenned out now. Bliss

[SquashedFrogg]

He’s miles off Lee when he takes his first touch and then far too tight when he takes his second touch. Because Hanlons a hibby he gets an easy ride on here. Not good enough I’m afraid

None of that even makes sense.

Your last sentence is embarrassing.

[Captain Trips]

He’s miles off Lee when he takes his first touch and then far too tight when he takes his second touch. Because Hanlons a hibby he gets an easy ride on here. Not good enough I’m afraid

He is Paul Hanlon not Franco Baresi. He has been more blatantly at fault for goals than that as has Daz, Efi, and every other defender who we have or will sign and just like every other defender in this league.

It is good enough because on balance he does a hell of a lot of good stuff as do the rest of the defence the ones that don't get moved on.

[Tornadoes70]

To be perfectly fair i'm sure even Paul himself would have held his hands up in the dressing room and admitted he got it wrong when allowing Lee to turn away into space and hit a sweet strike.

All defenders make mistakes, not all of them result in 20 yard decent hits that leave keepers no chance.

Lenny got the formation ergo the tactics wrong. Levein had already stated he was flooding the midfield and it worked perfectly for Levein when they got their goal as he loves nothing better than defending one goal leads against the big teams such as ours.

In saying that I agree with the posters who opined we should have postponed the match when offered due to the likes of Boyle being absent because Boyle would have had them on the back foot much more frequently with his blistering pace in behind.

Lenny's got to get smarter against Levein who got the tactics spot on of which I hate saying but its more or less the truth and we have to take it on the chin and learn the lessons.

Mon the Cabbage!!!

:flag:

[flash]

To put it simply if that had been Whittaker this place would have been in meltdown. It's not what you do often but who you are.

[Hiber-nation]

Paul Hanlon

Hibs Captain
Represented Hibernian 2007-2018 in the Scottish domestic game Represented Hibernian in European competition
300+ Career appearances for Hibernian
Scottish Championship winner
Scottish Cup winner
Capped for Scotland
Goals: 16

He hasn't actually been capped for Scotland. Got a squad call up last year but didn't get on.

I always think Hibs are a better side with Hanlon playing because of his ability to build from the back but he should have done better at their goal, simple as that.

[JimBHibees]

This is a problem of the modern game in the media eye, imo. Every single move is analysed to death; maybe Hanlon shouldn't have let him turn, but he was still goalside and who expected the boy to stick it in the top corner from there?

If it hadn't resulted in a wonder goal which won the game, I doubt anyone could argue Hanlon didn't play very well, and in the 2nd half particularly provided the drive from the back on the left that we've missed in his absence. Certainly gave more in an attacking sense 2nd half than any of our midfielders.

He definitely shouldnt have let him turn and then roll the ball with the sole of his left foot before unchallenged smash it in the top corner. Very poor defending especially in a derby game can you imagine any of their defenders allowing a player that amount of space at the edge of the box.

[Allant1981]

He was turned far to easy, and for a defender of his experience it will have annoyed him, normally shots like that will fly over the bar but unluckily for us it goes in the top corner, no point in blaming others as it was his man but it's done now and nothing is going to change it, when fully fit Paul Hanlon is our second best defender but for me has been brought back to early, if Porteous had been fit I don't think Hanlon would have played, hopefully is back to his best after the break

[SideBurns]

He definitely shouldnt have let him turn and then roll the ball with the sole of his left foot before unchallenged smash it in the top corner. Very poor defending especially in a derby game can you imagine any of their defenders allowing a player that amount of space at the edge of the box.

Whittaker's was from roughly the same area was it not? Which one of their defenders was at fault for allowing him to get a shot in? As another poster pointed out, just about every goal ever scored could be criticised from a defensive perspective. I've said he did allow Lee too much space to turn but fitba isn't an exact science and it was hardly a howler.

[lyonhibs]

I thought my memory was deceiving me, all this chat about Hanlon being too far off him. If you watch the highlights, Hanlon is right behind him, touch tight practically but not physical enough with it. If anything he's too close and thus has not enough time to react to the change of direction before the shot has gone.

Far better defenders than him have been similarly turned only to see the ensuing shot go flying over the bar or harmlessly back to the goalie.

It was a great goal, end of story.

[JimBHibees]

Whittaker's was from roughly the same area was it not? Which one of their defenders was at fault for allowing him to get a shot in? As another poster pointed out, just about every goal ever scored could be criticised from a defensive perspective. I've said he did allow Lee too much space to turn but fitba isn't an exact science and it was hardly a howler.

Whitty got his shot away quickly before he was pressed, Paul got turned then got nowhere near him. Not saying it was a howler however he definitely should have done better.

[Allant1981]

I thought my memory was deceiving me, all this chat about Hanlon being too far off him. If you watch the highlights, Hanlon is right behind him, touch tight practically but not physical enough with it. If anything he's too close and thus has not enough time to react to the change of direction before the shot has gone.

Far better defenders than him have been similarly turned only to see the ensuing shot go flying over the bar or harmlessly back to the goalie.

It was a great goal, end of story.

Yip the problem was he was too tight so got turned very easy, but as I mentioned before it was a cracking goal

[Coach Jon]

I thought my memory was deceiving me, all this chat about Hanlon being too far off him. If you watch the highlights, Hanlon is right behind him, touch tight practically but not physical enough with it. If anything he's too close and thus has not enough time to react to the change of direction before the shot has gone.

Far better defenders than him have been similarly turned only to see the ensuing shot go flying over the bar or harmlessly back to the goalie.

It was a great goal, end of story.

The scorer has his back to goal when he receives the ball, there is no way he should get any sort of shot in from that position, its poor defending.

[NC1875]

None of that even makes sense.

Your last sentence is embarrassing.

Not quite sure what you’re struggling to understand.

As someone else said if that had been Whittaker he’d be getting slated. Hanlon has cost us numerous times in his years playing for Hibs. In my opinion we could do better.

[SquashedFrogg]

The scorer has his back to goal when he receives the ball, there is no way he should get any sort of shot in from that position, its poor defending.

I saw a Man City mistake yesterday which led to a goal. I also saw a Man Utd error which led to a goal.

[cleanyman]

Hanlon is an okay player. A great servant for Hibs but gets bullied far too often.

I didn't get the Scotland call up chat because he's no where near that level

[Diclonius]

A home derby defeat is always guaranteed to explode into stupid threads like this.

Calling a Scottish Cup winner a ******. Have a word.

[SquashedFrogg]

Not quite sure what you’re struggling to understand.

As someone else said if that had been Whittaker he’d be getting slated. Hanlon has cost us numerous times in his years playing for Hibs. In my opinion we could do better.

Of course no player is exempt from criticism. Every player makes mistakes. But Paul Hanlon has undoubtedly been one of our most reliable and consistent players over the years.

Id love to see a list the 'numerous' times he has cost us.

Thankfully your opinion isn't shared by most. Why would consecutive managers continue to play him?

[BoomtownHibees]

I saw a Man City mistake yesterday which led to a goal. I also saw a Man Utd error which led to a goal.

And they were poor defending as well. What’s your point?

[The 90+2]

Hanlon is more than good enough for us. I don’t blame him for the loss neither but he did seem to be back to when he first started at CH in derbies. He’s not fit though and still looks at least a yard short. Where’s the midfield when their players are outside our penalty area?

[Brooster]

Hanlon is an okay player. A great servant for Hibs but gets bullied far too often.

I didn't get the Scotland call up chat because he's no where near that level

I agree. Not tough enough to be a top top player. He hardly ever gets booked, I like my centre halfs to let opponents know all about it.

[SquashedFrogg]

And they were poor defending as well. What’s your point?

Ok, if I must. My point was that even top players at top teams make mistakes. Soiling ones pants over a mistake on Saturday is all very unnecessary.

[SquashedFrogg]

Hanlon is more than good enough for us. I don’t blame him for the loss neither but he did seem to be back to when he first started at CH in derbies. He’s not fit though and still looks at least a yard short. Where’s the midfield when their players are outside our penalty area?

Your last sentence is a good point. Hanlon getting hung out to dry by some, but midfield should be closing Lee down before PH has to get involved.

[matty_f]

I agree. Not tough enough to be a top top player. He hardly ever gets booked, I like my centre halfs to let opponents know all about it.

Rio Ferdinand once went a full season without a yellow card iirc, he was an excellent defender.

[MWHIBBIES]

I agree. Not tough enough to be a top top player. He hardly ever gets booked, I like my centre halfs to let opponents know all about it.

I like them to be good defenders. Not hachet men who smash into opponents. Plenty of good defenders who never get booked.

[Smartie]

Hanlon has been an outstanding player for us over the years but has been very poor for us this season.

I think he might have been a bit complacent for the goal. It was a cracking strike and not one you'd have expected. I'm pretty sure Lee is right-footed, so I'd normally happily see them skelp shots in from distance on their weaker foot. 99 times out of 100 they end up in the stand or in the goalkeeper's hands and someone has a quiet word about not letting them get shots in.

It was a mistake that was cruelly punished but hardly a howler and we need to lay off him a bit. He did make one or two other mistakes in that first half, although I thought he played very well in the second.

[Scouse Hibee]

I agree. Not tough enough to be a top top player. He hardly ever gets booked, I like my centre halfs to let opponents know all about it.

I always considered you to have a good understanding of the game, this post has left me wondering.

[Brightside]

I agree. Not tough enough to be a top top player. He hardly ever gets booked, I like my centre halfs to let opponents know all about it.

😂😂😂🎺

[BoomtownHibees]

Ok, if I must. My point was that even top players at top teams make mistakes. Soiling ones pants over a mistake on Saturday is all very unnecessary.

No soiling of pants here but on the flip side I think it’s fair when folk call out he made a mistake. There’s others who won’t/don’t want to recognise that because PH is a Hibby or because he’s a legend who won the cup. It was a mistake from him, which can happen, however it has happened to him far too many times lately. Is he fit? If not then he shouldn’t be playing but I don’t see fitness as a reason for the mistake he made on Saturday

[Brooster]

I always considered you to have a good understanding of the game, this post has left me wondering.

If he had let Ollie Lee know he was there we wouldn't be talking about an embarrassing defeat to one of the worse hearts teams to come to ER in 40 years.

[scoopyboy]

If he had let Ollie Lee know he was there we wouldn't be talking about an embarrassing defeat to one of the worse hearts teams to come to ER in 40 years.

Or if someone had managed to score a goal we wouldn't have suffered a defeat, too many times we can't score when we go behind.

[Brooster]

Or if someone had managed to score a goal we wouldn't have suffered a defeat, too many times we can't score when we go behind.

I agree. We defo lack goals.

[Speedway]

Why is everyone blaming Hanlon when Daz leaned away rather than into the shot from the yam?

[The Green Goblin]

Win as a team. Lose as a team.

[MWHIBBIES]

If he had let Ollie Lee know he was there we wouldn't be talking about an embarrassing defeat to one of the worse hearts teams to come to ER in 40 years.Not even one of the worst Hearts teams in the last 5 years.

[Gmack7]

If he had let Ollie Lee know he was there we wouldn't be talking about an embarrassing defeat to one of the worse hearts teams to come to ER in 40 years.

or he lets him know he's there,gets booked and they score from the fee kick
It was a good goal and the only difference between the two teams. Slaughtering PH is very Harsh imo

[SquashedFrogg]

If he had let Ollie Lee know he was there we wouldn't be talking about an embarrassing defeat to one of the worse hearts teams to come to ER in 40 years.

I've seen much worse Hearts teams than that beat us. If only Ambrose hadn't needlessly sliced the ball out for a throw in leading up to the goal. If only the midfield gave better protection to the defence leading up to the goal. If only Flo had grown a set and stood up to Berra throughout the 90 mins. If only, if only....

They beat us, and will beat us again. It happens.

[Lancs Harp]

I've seen much worse Hearts teams than that beat us. If only Ambrose hadn't needlessly sliced the ball out for a throw in leading up to the goal. If only the midfield gave better protection to the defence leading up to the goal. If only Flo had grown a set and stood up to Berra throughout the 90 mins. If only, if only....

They beat us, and will beat us again. It happens.

If only the goalpost manufacturers had used a thinner coat of paint on the post.

[Keith_M]

“Other than the goal, did ok”

Sums the ****** up.


Take a hike!

[SquashedFrogg]

If only the goalpost manufacturers had used a thinner coat of paint on the post.

That was just typical us though. Any other team and the ball would've spun in off the other post.

Need grippier baws! 😂

[Jonnyboy]

If Flo had done that and turned Berra.before smashing the ball into the net we’d have been lauding his skill.

[Pretty Boy]

If Flo had done that and turned Berra.before smashing the ball into the net we’d have been lauding his skill.

Everyone except Neil Lennon and Garry Parker. They'd be asking why he didn't do it twice:greengrin

[The 90+2]

If Flo had done that and turned Berra.before smashing the ball into the net we’d have been lauding his skill.

If Flo has lost his man and the player done that he would be getting pelters for being lazy and not covering his man.

[The 90+2]

Everyone except Neil Lennon and Garry Parker. They'd be asking why he didn't do it twice:greengrin

Or every other week.

[Jonnyboy]

If Flo has lost his man and the player done that he would be getting pelters for being lazy and not covering his man.

My point is, it was a clever piece of play and a good finish. Those slaughtering PH should maybe take that into consideration.

[CMurdoch]

Can someone who was a decent standard of player comment on the following.

When faced with the situation Hanlon had I would have stood square on directly behind Lee and waited until he turned and then tackled him or in this case blocked the shot.
What Paul did was try to win the ball before Lee turned by reaching his foot round Lee's left side. Seeing this Lee turned to his right and released the shot past a now out of position Hanlon.

Does my thinking of the defender keeping his body between the attacker and the goal and waiting for the turn hold for a professional defender?

[The 90+2]

My point is, it was a clever piece of play and a good finish. Those slaughtering PH should maybe take that into consideration.

I know, I apologise. I was being ironic about the abuse Flo’ gets. Still the player should never been able to get the shot in. I don’t blame PH solely though, where’s the midfield cover and it all stemmed from Ambrose being pressured into punting the ball out the park, they got throw, punt to Rob Lees boy and nightmare happened.

[Bleeds green]

This site gets worse week by week more and more halfwit comments and threads

[Nameless]

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[Brightside]

Can someone who was a decent standard of player comment on the following.

When faced with the situation Hanlon had I would have stood square on directly behind Lee and waited until he turned and then tackled him or in this case blocked the shot.
What Paul did was try to win the ball before Lee turned by reaching his foot round Lee's left side. Seeing this Lee turned to his right and released the shot past a now out of position Hanlon.

Does my thinking of the defender keeping his body between the attacker and the goal and waiting for the turn hold for a professional defender?

A decent standard of player would have done exactly what Paul did.

[erin go bragh]

Can the administrators just delete this . Sniff sniff all over it .

[NC1875]

A decent standard of player would have done exactly what Paul did.

Surely that’s a wind up. Hanlon made Lees mind up for him by diving in.

[Danderhall Hibs]

Surely that’s a wind up. Hanlon made Lees mind up for him by diving in.

I took it that underscore meant a decent player would do that, however an above average player would’ve been able to do better.

[Danderhall Hibs]

Can the administrators just delete this . Sniff sniff all over it .

Nonsense. Just cos he played a big part in the cup win doesn’t make him immune from criticism.

[cmcd]

If players didn't make mistakes we wouldn't see any goals. We have 6 pages of nonsense where people are criticising one of our own players.Yes possibly Hanlon could have done better but he is not a world class player.If he was he wouldn't be playing for Hibs.All players make mistakes so give the guy a break

[CMurdoch]

A decent standard of player would have done exactly what Paul did.

Why?
No wind up, I really want to know.
I was always taught to remain goalside and wait for the attacker to turn before tackling or blocking.

P.S. wish someone would change the thread title

[Captain Trips]

What's the big deal? Hanlon got done he will again as will all our CBs and Hearts etc etc.

[B.H.F.C]

What's the big deal? Hanlon got done he will again as will all our CBs and Hearts etc etc.

It’s a big deal when, recently, he’s made a fair number of errors leading to goals against.

[SquashedFrogg]

It’s a big deal when, recently, he’s made a fair number of errors leading to goals against.

Has he not been injured recently? Or am I blind?

[Captain Trips]

It’s a big deal when, recently, he’s made a fair number of errors leading to goals against.

Has he, well you think we should sell him then and bring in another CB who will make less? I think folk need to get a grip here he has played nearly 300 games of which he has been decent. In 300 games I would expect a CB playing for Hibs to be at fault for a fair few goals. He has been at fault far worse than the other night. These threads pop up when an error has been made or perceived error yet we can go months with no mention of him due to the fact doing his job.

The big deal is our in ability to create and score chances, make simple passes, cross balls maybe if we sort that out the inevitable defensive mistakes will not be as costly.

[SquashedFrogg]

Why?
No wind up, I really want to know.
I was always taught to remain goalside and wait for the attacker to turn before tackling or blocking.

P.S. wish someone would change the thread title

I'm guessing based on your analysis and critique that you never let a player go past you and played at a very high level?

Maybe send your cv in to the club?

Seems we have an abundance of top coaches, scouts, managers on .net. Maybe they should put their expertise to good use instead of sitting in their pants at home passing on guidance.

[B.H.F.C]

Has he, well you think we should sell him then and bring in another CB who will make less? I think folk need to get a grip here he has played nearly 300 games of which he has been decent. In 300 games I would expect a CB playing for Hibs to be at fault for a fair few goals. He has been at fault far worse than the other night. These threads pop up when an error has been made or perceived error yet we can go months with no mention of him due to the fact doing his job.

The big deal is our in ability to create and score chances, make simple passes, cross balls maybe if we sort that out the inevitable defensive mistakes will not be as costly.

I’ve never suggested we should sell him or anything along those lines, but you know that of course.

In his last four or five games he’s made a number of errors that have cost us goals, stretching back to Dundee at home when he’d apparently been rushed back.

I think Hanlon is a good player but he’s under performed when he’s played lately and it’s cost us goals. He needs to improve after the break. So less of the ‘get a grip’ pish because folk happen to have the opposing view to you eh.

[Captain Trips]

I’ve never suggested we should sell him or anything along those lines, but you know that of course.

In his last four or five games he’s made a number of errors that have cost us goals, stretching back to Dundee at home when he’d apparently been rushed back.

I think Hanlon is a good player but he’s under performed when he’s played lately and it’s cost us goals. He needs to improve after the break. So less of the ‘get a grip’ pish because folk happen to have the opposing view to you eh.

So less of the "pish" because folk happen to have the opposing view to you eh.

[B.H.F.C]

So less of the "pish" because folk have a different point of view to you eh.

It not me that is telling people they need to get a grip because of their views is it?

Perfectly capable of accepting people see things differently and happy to debate said points.

Never told you your views were pish did I? Just the fact that you feel the need tell others they need to get a grip.

[Captain Trips]

It not me that is telling people they need to get a grip because of their views is it?

Perfectly capable of accepting people see things differently and happy to debate said points.

Never told you your views were pish did I? Just the fact that you feel the need tell others they need to get a grip.

I never told them theirs were I just asked them to get grip you interperate that as "pish" that's your call.

[CMurdoch]

I'm guessing based on your analysis and critique that you never let a player go past you and played at a very high level?

Maybe send your cv in to the club?

Seems we have an abundance of top coaches, scouts, managers on .net. Maybe they should put their expertise to good use instead of sitting in their pants at home passing on guidance.

Sadly not. Too slow and not athletic enough.
This has now been compounded by old age and a passion for sugar.
However ma analysis and critique of the basics is still right up there :wink:.

[SquashedFrogg]

Sadly not. Too slow and not athletic enough.
This has now been compounded by old age and a passion for sugar.
However ma analysis and critique of the basics is still right up there :wink:.

Brilliant reply 👍

[SideBurns]

I must have been one of the top 30 centre-halves playing Sunday Amateur/pub fitba in the 90s, so i trust that meets C Murdoch's requirements as 'decent standard'.

I would have tried to blooter Lee, and either the same outcome would've resulted or i would've given away a free-kick and got a yelly or red. Have a guid kip CM, and Happy New Year!

[The 90+2]

I must have been one of the top 30 centre-halves playing Sunday Amateur/pub fitba in the 90s, so i trust that meets C Murdoch's requirements as 'decent standard'.

I would have tried to blooter Lee, and either the same outcome would've resulted or i would've given away a free-kick and got a yelly or red. Have a guid kip CM, and Happy New Year!

It was certainly the standard I used to watch Colin Murdoch play that’s for sure 😂

[CMurdoch]

Cheers guys :wink:

[J-C]

Look it wasn't a serious mistake by Paul, Lee still had to put his laces through the ball, it was a cracking shot, one even Paul probably didn't think he'd make.