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Future17
29-12-2018, 07:30 PM
Those of us watching on Sky will likely have seen footage of a Hibs "supporter" racially abusing Dikamona.

Can someone who has access to recorded footage of the game please post an image of the offender so someone who knows the person in question can notify the Club and get this idiot banned?

Thanks

Betty Boop
29-12-2018, 07:34 PM
Those of us watching on Sky will likely have seen footage of a Hibs "supporter" racially abusing Dikamona.

Can someone who has access to recorded footage of the game please post an image of the offender so someone who knows the person in question can notify the Club and get this idiot banned?

Thanks
Couldn't believe what I was seeing. Looks like we have ouur own problems with racism.

hibsbollah
29-12-2018, 07:46 PM
The whole pub went 'ooooohyaaa' when the bellend mouthed it. So embarrassing.

Bishop Hibee
29-12-2018, 07:48 PM
Disgraceful. Can someone also identify the catholic haters in the Hearts end, probably 200 of them, who were singing **** the Pope?

leithsansiro
29-12-2018, 07:49 PM
Disgraceful. Can someone also identify the catholic haters in the Hearts end, probably 200 of them, who were singing **** the Pope?

No. Deal with our own idiots first.

neil7908
29-12-2018, 07:50 PM
Pathetic. Ban them for life.

CraigHibee
29-12-2018, 07:51 PM
Heard it on the radio on the way back, commentators mentioned it, no need. I'm sure they will be identified soon enough.

Pity they dont focus on weeding out the toxic sectarian crap in the same manner

AgentDaleCooper
29-12-2018, 07:51 PM
No. Deal with our own idiots first.

Absolutely spot on :aok:

Northernhibee
29-12-2018, 07:51 PM
Disgraceful. Can someone also identify the catholic haters in the Hearts end, probably 200 of them, who were singing **** the Pope?

Let’s not get into whataboutery. Get the **** out of our own support before we comment on others.

A Hi-Bee
29-12-2018, 07:52 PM
Looks like someone will have to go shopping.

Liam6270
29-12-2018, 07:53 PM
The sky cameras cut very quickly but it was as clear as you’ll ever see!

StirlingHibee
29-12-2018, 07:54 PM
Evidence is on Kickback - "Hibs Class" thread. Does not look good. Disgraceful. Get him out of our club!!!!!

Hibernia&Alba
29-12-2018, 07:54 PM
And a bad day just got worse. Get any and every racist clown banned.

CraigHibee
29-12-2018, 07:54 PM
No. Deal with our own idiots first.

100%

Jones28
29-12-2018, 07:55 PM
Disgraceful. Can someone also identify the catholic haters in the Hearts end, probably 200 of them, who were singing **** the Pope?

Get your own house in order before complaining about others:

Pretty Boy
29-12-2018, 07:56 PM
Sad, sad behaviour.

I hope the guy in question is dealt with by the club. No place for that at Hibs or at any team for that matter.

JK Rolling
29-12-2018, 07:57 PM
Now highlighted on Sky and the Club have made a statement.

Bristolhibby
29-12-2018, 07:57 PM
What time was it? I have the game taped.

essexhibee
29-12-2018, 07:58 PM
It was clear as day and he will be in big trouble. Idiot.

CraigHibee
29-12-2018, 07:58 PM
What time was it? I have the game taped.

Must have been around 5 minutes from time, I heard it on the radio on the way back

Hibernia&Alba
29-12-2018, 07:59 PM
Now highlighted on Sky and the Club have made a statement.

Good. Zero tolerance of such bigotry.

It is a fair question, however, to ask if Sky are also highlighting the FTP/IRA muck from the away end.

Bishop Hibee
29-12-2018, 07:59 PM
No. Deal with our own idiots first.

Why can’t we do both? Equally vile.

Bristolhibby
29-12-2018, 08:00 PM
Must have been around 5 minutes from time, I heard it on the radio on the way back

Found it. 86:40.

Disgraceful. Must be banned.

J

HAZ2000
29-12-2018, 08:01 PM
Used to sit near the guy. Been a huge fan for years, no idea what hes playing at.

hfc rd
29-12-2018, 08:01 PM
Name, shame and punish this b******

Erseholes like that should be nowhere near our club!

makaveli1875
29-12-2018, 08:02 PM
What did he say

Mick O'Rourke
29-12-2018, 08:03 PM
I was so ashamed to see that on Sky
Not because they recorded it, but the fact that someone of that age who may have been a long time fan could even think, let alone mouth what he did.

Its still bothering me,just thinking what i might have did had i been sitting beside him

Am sure the club will identify him and tell him not to return to Easter Road
I certainly hope so.

Albanian Hibs
29-12-2018, 08:03 PM
So Hertz fans sing **** the pope and the ira clear as day as well but no mention

CraigHibee
29-12-2018, 08:04 PM
Found it. 86:40.

Disgraceful. Must be banned.

J

I'd say 85,i left just as he was being ushered off the park at 85

Bristolhibby
29-12-2018, 08:04 PM
What did he say

Couldn’t get the start of it, but clearly shouted “Black Bar Steward”.

Unbelievable.

J

Nameless
29-12-2018, 08:05 PM
He's well known, so I dare say his identity will be known to the club shortly.

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Connollys11
29-12-2018, 08:05 PM
Those of us watching on Sky will likely have seen footage of a Hibs "supporter" racially abusing Dikamona.

Can someone who has access to recorded footage of the game please post an image of the offender so someone who knows the person in question can notify the Club and get this idiot banned?

Thanks

Seen that imbecile he looked like an extra from the acid house film

Hibernia&Alba
29-12-2018, 08:06 PM
So Hertz fans sing **** the pope and the ira clear as day as well but no mention

Scotland's elephant in the room. Not that it should be used to deflect attention from any racism, but thousands being sectarian must be a huge issue......

CMurdoch
29-12-2018, 08:06 PM
What did he say

There is a GIF of the incident on JKB.
Clear as day.
What an embarrassment.
Will be getting the knock on the door from Police Scotland.
Roaster!

Bristolhibby
29-12-2018, 08:07 PM
So Hertz fans sing **** the pope and the ira clear as day as well but no mention

Sorry Mate, that is a poor bit of deflection. Full screen on national TV, he screams black bar steward to a black football player. That shames us as a club.

We can’t have that at Hibs.

J

Radium
29-12-2018, 08:09 PM
Admins, from a public source but will delete if it breaks forum rules

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IWasThere2016
29-12-2018, 08:09 PM
Could it have been Hearts Bas****? Look like Black Bas**** however...

Future17
29-12-2018, 08:10 PM
Could it have been Hearts Bas****? Look like Black Bas**** however...

No

Pedantic_Hibee
29-12-2018, 08:10 PM
Quite simple, ban him for life. Idiot.

beensaidbefore
29-12-2018, 08:11 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/Niall_Bullion/status/1079094314356166659?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcam p%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

Clear as day.

IWasThere2016
29-12-2018, 08:12 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/robf1094/status/1079095267419480064?s=21

IWasThere2016
29-12-2018, 08:12 PM
No

Yup. Agree. Have posted Twitter link above and it is damning

Radium
29-12-2018, 08:12 PM
https://twitter.com/peteradamsmith/status/1079094660868526082?s=21



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Coach Jon
29-12-2018, 08:12 PM
Could it have been Hearts Bas****? Look like Black Bas**** however...

Clearly saying 'Stupid People!'

matty_f
29-12-2018, 08:13 PM
Old enough to know better. I can't believe folk still think that's acceptable in 2018.

Shameful, really.

Bishop Hibee
29-12-2018, 08:13 PM
Sorry Mate, that is a poor bit of deflection. Full screen on national TV, he screams black bar steward to a black football player. That shames is as a club.

We can’t have that at Hibs.

J

Absolutely. Ban the guy for a few seasons and send him on an anti-racism course before he’s allowed back in. Why should we have abuse of Roman Catholic’s through the FTP chant though? I’ve got Catholic cousins who are Hearts ST holders. If Catholic’s were an identifiable colour, we’d hear all sorts from them. Worse than The Rangers today.

whiskas
29-12-2018, 08:13 PM
Make him explain himself to big Marv and Efe. Then ban him!

Diclonius
29-12-2018, 08:13 PM
This is a thread about a Hibs fan being racist. Whataboutery belongs at Parkhead.

Danderhall Hibs
29-12-2018, 08:14 PM
Old enough to know better. I can't believe folk still think that's acceptable in 2018.

Shameful, really.

Stupid old *******. Unfortunately many in that generation still think it’s ok.

Tornadoes70
29-12-2018, 08:14 PM
Did anyone actually hear him say it?

Could easily be shouting 'fat' bxxxxd or something else, when did we all become lip reading experts. Innocent until proven guilty or admits guilt for now.

James310
29-12-2018, 08:15 PM
Some guy in the West Lower thought it was hilarious to shout at Sean Clare all through the first half about his face.

Beefster
29-12-2018, 08:16 PM
Did anyone actually hear him say it?

Could easily be shouting 'fat' bxxxxd or something else, when did we all become lip reading experts. Innocent until proven guilty or admits guilt for now.

Behave. He could have been saying ‘quack’ but that’s about as unlikely as him having said ‘fat’.

Lago
29-12-2018, 08:16 PM
The whole pub went 'ooooohyaaa' when the bellend mouthed it. So embarrassing.

Only appeared to mouth it, sure it was a full on shout.

hibsbollah
29-12-2018, 08:17 PM
Edinburgh City are playing good stuff at the minute, I hope the stupid old **** enjoys watching them for the rest of his stupid racist life.

Tornadoes70
29-12-2018, 08:17 PM
Behave. He could have been saying ‘quack’ but that’s about as unlikely as him having said ‘fat’.

No you behave.

Are you a lip reading expert?

beensaidbefore
29-12-2018, 08:17 PM
Did anyone actually hear him say it?

Could easily be shouting 'fat' bxxxxd or something else, when did we all become lip reading experts. Innocent until proven guilty or admits guilt for now.

Have you watched it? Doesn't take an expert lip reader mate.

NORTHERNHIBBY
29-12-2018, 08:17 PM
Shamefull. Would rather that we dealt with this rather than engage in whatabouttery. Leave it to LD.

Allant1981
29-12-2018, 08:18 PM
Did anyone actually hear him say it?

Could easily be shouting 'fat' bxxxxd or something else, when did we all become lip reading experts. Innocent until proven guilty or admits guilt for now.

No chance did he shout that, was as clear as day looking at that clip from twitter

Lago
29-12-2018, 08:18 PM
Stupid old *******. Unfortunately many in that generation still think it’s ok.
And many more don't, me included.

Callum_62
29-12-2018, 08:18 PM
he definitely says black 'something'

Im struggling to identify the 2nd word...i assumed it was bas....but doesnt look like it on teh twitter vids

StevesFamau5
29-12-2018, 08:18 PM
Absolute subhuman ****. Regardless of how bad the union yams were acting we as a club have to stamp out this backwards racist behaviour.

I know there’s probably people out there who will say he’s a ‘good’ hibs man really and isn’t a racist. To me he’s a c u next Tuesday.. end of story. :grr::grr:

Vault Boy
29-12-2018, 08:19 PM
Get him straight to ****. The club will have no tolerance of this and too right. Cretin.

Tornadoes70
29-12-2018, 08:20 PM
Have you watched it? Doesn't take an expert lip reader mate.

I have watched it and cannot say with 100% certainty what he actually definitely said.

It could easily have been something else or something similar sounding. it would require a lip reading expert to clarify if the man does not admit saying it.

Beefster
29-12-2018, 08:20 PM
No you behave.

Are you a lip reading expert?

No but I do have two working eyes.

SunshineOnLeith
29-12-2018, 08:21 PM
Get him banned immediately with no whataboutery or any other excuses. Letting these sorts of things fester without dealing with them leads to the kind of nonsense hearts are now having to deal with at Tynecastle.

hibsbollah
29-12-2018, 08:21 PM
I have watched it and cannot say with 100% certainty what he actually definitely said.

It could easily have been something else or something similar sounding. it would require a lip reading expert to clarify if the man does not admit saying it.

Stop.

Connollys11
29-12-2018, 08:21 PM
Imagine even having the audacity to stand up and shout that and think there won't be any consequences. Hope the silly old arse does some porridge. That behaviour is totally unacceptable at our club. Our club was founded by people who were racially abused for being Irish Catholics.

CapitalGreen
29-12-2018, 08:23 PM
Absolutely. Ban the guy for a few seasons and send him on an anti-racism course before he’s allowed back in. Why should we have abuse of Roman Catholic’s through the FTP chant though? I’ve got Catholic cousins who are Hearts ST holders. If Catholic’s were an identifiable colour, we’d hear all sorts from them. Worse than The Rangers today.

Hibs fan at full time in the East called Lennon a wee Irish fenian ******* 🤦🏻*♂️

CMac1988
29-12-2018, 08:23 PM
Sorry Mate, that is a poor bit of deflection. Full screen on national TV, he screams black bar steward to a black football player. That shames us as a club.

We can’t have that at Hibs.

J

It's embarrassing but it doesn't shame the club. Shames the individual and the club and police will rightly deal with it as appropriate.

Bristolhibby
29-12-2018, 08:23 PM
Absolutely. Ban the guy for a few seasons and send him on an anti-racism course before he’s allowed back in. Why should we have abuse of Roman Catholic’s through the FTP chant though? I’ve got Catholic cousins who are Hearts ST holders. If Catholic’s were an identifiable colour, we’d hear all sorts from them. Worse than The Rangers today.

It is easier to sort out one person caught on National TV than thousands / hundreds in a football stadium.

I’m sure if he said “Proddy *******” he’d be getting called out.

Don’t let my point in any way let you think I’m not anti Sectarian. It’s just that this guy screamed racist abuse and he got caught.

I don’t know how we sort out Sectarianism in football, I really don’t.

The only thing I can think is independent compliance officers who of hearing sectarian chanting, report it and they team is docked 3 points. Then another 3, and so on and so on.

It will be stopped overnight.

That said, the tw@s in charge of the game have no inclination in doing anything.

J

Connollys11
29-12-2018, 08:24 PM
Hibs fan at full time in the East called Lennon a wee Irish fenian ******* 🤦🏻*♂️

Haha unbelievable. There's defo a confused element of ********s in our support like. Imagine standing there with a hibs top on and saying that with a straight face.

SouthMoroccoStu
29-12-2018, 08:24 PM
No. Deal with our own idiots first.

Exactly

Let’s not distract and deflect - that’s what other teams and supporters do

Let’s find this moron and get him away from hibs

Bishop Hibee
29-12-2018, 08:24 PM
Hibs fan at full time in the East called Lennon a wee Irish fenian ******* 🤦🏻*♂️

If he’d done that next to me, my brothers and my mates he wouldn’t have lasted long.

Tornadoes70
29-12-2018, 08:25 PM
Stop.

Stop what exactly?

Pre judging guilt before a person has had an opportunity to defend himself?

You should be telling folk to stop pre judging guilt.

CapitalGreen
29-12-2018, 08:25 PM
If he’d done that next to me, my brothers and my mates he wouldn’t have lasted long.

Nice one Mike Tyson 👍

Connollys11
29-12-2018, 08:25 PM
Stop.

David blunkett could see what he said haha

Connollys11
29-12-2018, 08:27 PM
Nice one Mike Tyson 👍

😂😂 the boys a tank like.

hibsbollah
29-12-2018, 08:27 PM
Stop what exactly?

Pre judging guilt before a person has had an opportunity to defend himself?

You should be telling folk to stop pre judging guilt.

Watch the twitter again. Think. Then if you still believe there's any doubt he's guilty I have nothing else to say.

My_Wife_Camille
29-12-2018, 08:27 PM
Deary me. Are we sure this man is saying something racist? It looks to me like he’s saying “Lennonis a fraud, discuss”.

JK Rolling
29-12-2018, 08:27 PM
If he’d done that next to me, my brothers and my mates he wouldn’t have lasted long.

You forgot to mention your Dad, who I assume is bigger than his. :wink:

Connollys11
29-12-2018, 08:28 PM
Stop what exactly?

Pre judging guilt before a person has had an opportunity to defend himself?

You should be telling folk to stop pre judging guilt.

Are you blind sir? There's no prejudging about it he's guilty as ****. Lifetime ban no more no less.

biscuitersed75
29-12-2018, 08:28 PM
This is a thread about a Hibs fan being racist. Whataboutery belongs at Parkhead.You are right about the subject of the thread, and I totally agree that the club should stamp on this, as they have done. Your 'whataboutery' comment sits uncomfortably with me however. You might be ok with constant sevco and hertz fans' references to 'fenian blood', and the total lack of any action to address it, but I'm sure as hell not.

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Bristolhibby
29-12-2018, 08:29 PM
It's embarrassing but it doesn't shame the club. Shames the individual and the club and police will rightly deal with it as appropriate.

OK. TBH, I took it far more personally. I see us as a collective. If one brings us into disrepute, we all suffer the blowback. We will all be tarred as “Racist Hibs” we will give other racists the excuse to throw some whataboutery back at us.

We are already being mentioned by tabloids in the same breath as Chelsea.

I see your point, however If we fail to deal with it properly then it will truely shames us.

J

Tornadoes70
29-12-2018, 08:29 PM
David blunkett could see what he said haha

Thankfully clowns like you aren't in charge of the justice system.

Everyone's entitled to a fair trial and if the man denies he said what folk appear to think they 'saw' him saying then of course a lip reading expert would have to provide expert opinion of what he actually did or did not say.

Malthibby
29-12-2018, 08:29 PM
We know there's still racism out there & unfortunately it's closer to home than most of us would want. At least this gives the club a chance to show
just how unacceptable it is & gives others who might not be that different pause for thought, because thought is usually at the back of the queue when it comes to racism.
GG

Jones28
29-12-2018, 08:29 PM
I have watched it and cannot say with 100% certainty what he actually definitely said.

It could easily have been something else or something similar sounding. it would require a lip reading expert to clarify if the man does not admit saying it.

Stop stop stop

HibeeHibernian4
29-12-2018, 08:29 PM
This happens too often both at Hibs and in Scotland. Hope the prick in question gets the ban he richly deserves. Would love to see any of these terrace racists say it up close to Dikamona, he’s an absolute unit and could batter the **** out of them if he wanted to.

Bristolhibby
29-12-2018, 08:31 PM
Thankfully clowns like you aren't in charge of the justice system.

Everyone's entitled to a fair trial and if the man denies he said what folk appear to think they 'saw' him saying then of course a lip reading expert would have to provide expert opinion of what he actually did or did not say.

You do know a season ticket and entry into Easter Road isn’t a court of Law?

J

hibsbollah
29-12-2018, 08:31 PM
Deary me. Are we sure this man is saying something racist? It looks to me like he’s saying “Lennonis a fraud, discuss”.

I think it was 'make Hibernian great again'.

Seriously, it's not funny.

Willis1875
29-12-2018, 08:31 PM
Thankfully clowns like you aren't in charge of the justice system.

Everyone's entitled to a fair trial and if the man denies he said what folk appear to think they 'saw' him saying then of course a lip reading expert would have to provide expert opinion of what he actually did or did not say.
Out of curiosity what do you think he said?

Connollys11
29-12-2018, 08:31 PM
You are right about the subject of the thread, and I totally agree that the club should stamp on this, as they have done. Your 'whataboutery' comment sits uncomfortably with me however. You might be ok with constant sevco and hertz fans' references to 'fenian blood', and the total lack of any action to address it, but I'm sure as hell not.

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Spot on bro. We get it constantly from the huns and their little psychics. It's so normalised that even people in our own support think it's acceptable. As a practicing Roman Catholic of Irish descent I find it shocking that this sort of behaviour is normalised in Scottish society. If it was anti black songs they were singing it would be a different ball game all together. Racism is racism.

SunshineOnLeith
29-12-2018, 08:32 PM
It is easier to sort out one person caught on National TV than thousands / hundreds in a football stadium.

I’m sure if he said “Proddy *******” he’d be getting called out.

Don’t let my point in any way let you think I’m not anti Sectarian. It’s just that this guy screamed racist abuse and he got caught.

I don’t know how we sort out Sectarianism in football, I really don’t.

The only thing I can think is independent compliance officers who of hearing sectarian chanting, report it and they team is docked 3 points. Then another 3, and so on and so on.

It will be stopped overnight.

That said, the tw@s in charge of the game have no inclination in doing anything.

J

From my seat in the east stand, surrounded by other season ticket holders, I didn't hear any racist/sectarian or any other form of discriminatory language from anyone tonight and never have. We, as a support, don't have any real problems with this which is why it's important to make an example of any idiots who do show us up before the nonsense takes hold.

dp00
29-12-2018, 08:32 PM
I’d imagine given hibs have already made a statement that police Scotland will be knocking on the guys door soon


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Tornadoes70
29-12-2018, 08:32 PM
Watch the twitter again. Think. Then if you still believe there's any doubt he's guilty I have nothing else to say.

I have watched it. I think it's best left to an expert lip reader to clarify what was or wasn't said.

The man's entitled to a fair trial not this kangaroo court.

Bristolhibby
29-12-2018, 08:32 PM
From my seat in the east stand, surrounded by other season ticket holders, I didn't hear any racist/sectarian or any other form of discriminatory language from anyone tonight and never have. We, as a support, don't have any real problems with this which is why it's important to make an example of any idiots who do show us up before the nonsense takes hold.

Agree

Allant1981
29-12-2018, 08:32 PM
I have watched it. I think it's best left to an expert lip reader to clarify what was or wasn't said.

The man's entitled to a fair trial not this kangaroo court.

You are at it surely, it's as clear as day what he said

Connollys11
29-12-2018, 08:33 PM
Thankfully clowns like you aren't in charge of the justice system.

Everyone's entitled to a fair trial and if the man denies he said what folk appear to think they 'saw' him saying then of course a lip reading expert would have to provide expert opinion of what he actually did or did not say.

Clowns like me haha am sure 99% of our support and anyone else who sees it will see exactly what I saw. Was it you who said it by any chance as you seem to be the only one saying innocent to proved guilty 😂

Bristolhibby
29-12-2018, 08:34 PM
I have watched it. I think it's best left to an expert lip reader to clarify what was or wasn't said.

The man's entitled to a fair trial not this kangaroo court.

There’s no trial. Hibs figure out who he is, remove his season ticket and ban him from Easter Road.

J

jockspanner
29-12-2018, 08:34 PM
So Hertz fans sing **** the pope and the ira clear as day as well but no mention
Never mind the whataboutery, it should not be said in this day and age, do you think Efe or Marvin would have the same thoughts as you.

houstonhibbee
29-12-2018, 08:34 PM
Thankfully clowns like you aren't in charge of the justice system.

Everyone's entitled to a fair trial and if the man denies he said what folk appear to think they 'saw' him saying then of course a lip reading expert would have to provide expert opinion of what he actually did or did not say.
Let the justice system take their course in the meantime hibs should ban him for life

Connollys11
29-12-2018, 08:35 PM
There’s no trial. Hibs figure out who he is, remove his season ticket and ban him from Easter Road.

J

Exactly mate I'm astonished he's even saying there should be a trial 😂

Connollys11
29-12-2018, 08:36 PM
Never mind the whataboutery, it should not be said in this day and age, do you think Efe or Marvin would have the same thoughts as you.

Anti Irish racism is just as bad as black racism. The Irish have been treated like second class citizens in this country for over 200 years. Racism is racism.

Tornadoes70
29-12-2018, 08:37 PM
You are at it surely, it's as clear as day what he said

I'm not 'at' anything.

Its all opinion as it's all about what folk 'think' they seen him saying. Best left to the experts.

I genuinely couldn't say for certain. He might have said it then again he could've said something else or in a different context. I didn't 'hear' it so I cannot be 100% certain.

For the last time.

Lago
29-12-2018, 08:37 PM
Stop what exactly?

Pre judging guilt before a person has had an opportunity to defend himself?

You should be telling folk to stop pre judging guilt.
Fortunately Hibs won't need a court to decide, they will view, identify & ban.

Radium
29-12-2018, 08:39 PM
Stop what exactly?

Pre judging guilt before a person has had an opportunity to defend himself?

You should be telling folk to stop pre judging guilt.

Club will only have to operate on a balance of probabilities not beyond reasonable doubt.




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Tornadoes70
29-12-2018, 08:40 PM
Fortunately Hibs won't need a court to decide, they will view, identify & ban.

The clubs prerogative.

Irrelevant to what my point was though.

Future17
29-12-2018, 08:41 PM
Did anyone actually hear him say it?

Could easily be shouting 'fat' bxxxxd or something else, when did we all become lip reading experts. Innocent until proven guilty or admits guilt for now.

Yeah, I'm an expert on lip reading and what he said was racist.

Frazerbob
29-12-2018, 08:41 PM
Well known face who’s been going regularly for decades. Probably a ST holder so hopefully gets dealt with.

Between this, the re-emergence of the Hibees Are Gay chant and Leigh Griffiths song, another derby where neither set of fans covered themselves in glory.

houstonhibbee
29-12-2018, 08:43 PM
The clubs prerogative.

Irrelevant to what my point was though.
Your point is somewhat pointless then

Lago
29-12-2018, 08:46 PM
The clubs prerogative.

Irrelevant to what my point was though.
No it's not.
You sound like the Chelsea fan who tried the same tactic when caught shouting racial abuse at Stirling.

sauzee6_2
29-12-2018, 08:47 PM
Thankfully clowns like you aren't in charge of the justice system.

Everyone's entitled to a fair trial and if the man denies he said what folk appear to think they 'saw' him saying then of course a lip reading expert would have to provide expert opinion of what he actually did or did not say.

Whilst I admire your faith in the justice system, the video evidence is clear for all to see. Of course it’s not 100% clear but let’s be adults and face up to the distinct probability is that he used racist language.

I don’t want that in my club and certainly don’t want to see vigilante actions, but this guy is well out of order and needs punished. Ideally he will own up and return his season ticket.

If not, people sitting around him should make it clear he has shamed our club.

biscuitersed75
29-12-2018, 08:51 PM
Spot on bro. We get it constantly from the huns and their little psychics. It's so normalised that even people in our own support think it's acceptable. As a practicing Roman Catholic of Irish descent I find it shocking that this sort of behaviour is normalised in Scottish society. If it was anti black songs they were singing it would be a different ball game all together. Racism is racism.Reassuring to hear my concerns are shared. I wouldn't go as far as to say that it's deemed acceptable, just that it's not a top priority for some. Similarly, this type of sentiment is prone to permeate the regular threads about the Old Firm being the 'cheeks of the same arse', and when our current manager's competence is being called into question.


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Carheenlea
29-12-2018, 08:51 PM
Old enough to know better. I can't believe folk still think that's acceptable in 2018.

Shameful, really.

Probably too old to realise how unacceptable his outburst is to most in 2018. I don’t know the guy or if this is regular behaviour from him. The publicity surrounding this will surely cause him and his family and friends no end of embarrassment, and that might be the biggest punishment of all. Hopefully he, and others prone to racist outbursts in the heat of the moment will learn a lesson from this sorry episode.

biscuitersed75
29-12-2018, 08:52 PM
Anti Irish racism is just as bad as black racism. The Irish have been treated like second class citizens in this country for over 200 years. Racism is racism.Without a shadow of doubt.

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we are hibs
29-12-2018, 08:52 PM
There was also a fanny who hit the linesman at the east side with something at the end after he gave an offside against efe. Never understood why someone would think lobbing an object at someone on a football pitch because they've done something you don't like is going to change anything or end in anything other than a probable ban.

Hibeesmad
29-12-2018, 08:53 PM
Shame to see this kind of behaviour. As a fellow poster mentioned, along with the homophobia from hearts fans it’s a shame people can’t stick to the football

Hannah_hfc
29-12-2018, 08:55 PM
Overheard a couple of racist insults directed at the same player in the crowd behind me in section 44 (also followed by homophobic slurs and horrible lee rigby chants) Unfortunately it was impossible to tell who it was when I turned round. This guy got caught on camera tonight and hopefully action will be taken, but there’s still idiots who turn up to these fixtures who will let the club down.


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jakedance
29-12-2018, 08:57 PM
Either a life ban or, if both parties are up for it, restorative justice where the bigot meets his victim, and maybe the black Hibs players too, and figures out how he can make the world a better place instead.

J-C
29-12-2018, 08:57 PM
Silly auld bugger, probably a life long fan will now be banned for the rest of his life, eejit but as someone said earlier it's a generation thing.

Connollys11
29-12-2018, 08:57 PM
Without a shadow of doubt.

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It's disgusting the way it's brushed under carpet. Heard there were fans of our own calling Lennon a fenian ******* aswell which is just not ****ing on. Imagine wearing a hibs top and spouting that drivel.

K.Marx
29-12-2018, 08:59 PM
Overheard a couple of racist insults directed at the same player in the crowd behind me in section 44 (also followed by homophobic slurs and horrible lee rigby chants) Unfortunately it was impossible to tell who it was when I turned round. This guy got caught on camera tonight and hopefully action will be taken, but there’s still idiots who turn up to these fixtures who will let the club down.


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I must sit near you. When I saw the title of the thread i’d presumed it would of been something to do with that. Few throbbers in our support at the moment

Sir David Gray
29-12-2018, 09:00 PM
Absolutely disgraceful behaviour from someone who seems to be of an age where he should know better than to shout nonsense like that.

I'm surely he'll have attended his last match at Easter Road and he may even find himself in front of the courts soon as well.

No place for that in any walk of life, same with the sectarian garbage that came from several hundred members of the away support tonight.

Connollys11
29-12-2018, 09:00 PM
Overheard a couple of racist insults directed at the same player in the crowd behind me in section 44 (also followed by homophobic slurs and horrible lee rigby chants) Unfortunately it was impossible to tell who it was when I turned round. This guy got caught on camera tonight and hopefully action will be taken, but there’s still idiots who turn up to these fixtures who will let the club down.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk what an embarrassment to our club that is. These idiots always seem to crawl out from under there rocks for the derby ae.

Connollys11
29-12-2018, 09:01 PM
Absolutely disgraceful behaviour from someone who seems to be of an age where he should know better than to shout nonsense like that.

I'm surely he'll have attended his last match at Easter Road and he may even find himself in front of the courts soon as well.

No place for that in any walk of life, same with the sectarian garbage that came from several hundred members of the away support tonight.
Totally agree mate 👍

Smartie
29-12-2018, 09:03 PM
Spot on bro. We get it constantly from the huns and their little psychics. It's so normalised that even people in our own support think it's acceptable. As a practicing Roman Catholic of Irish descent I find it shocking that this sort of behaviour is normalised in Scottish society. If it was anti black songs they were singing it would be a different ball game all together. Racism is racism.

I don't think there will be many on here who condone sectarianism.

Start a separate thread about it, and we can debate the rights and wrongs of what has been sung at Ibrox and Easter Road today.

The place for the debate is NOT on a thread where a Hibs fan has been caught about as obviously as it is possible to get racially abusing someone at our home.

"Whataboutery" is one of many reasons why the sectarian problem still exists to the extent it does in Scotland. Many Scots, especially those from the West, are conditioned to answer allegations of unacceptable behaviour with "aye, but what about....." in order to normalise the behaviour, to fool people into thinking it is widespread and acceptable.

We must not do likewise here.

100% condemnation, accept it happened, punish the guilty party and let everyone who is watching know that this is not on.

Then we can have some sort of integrity when it comes to dealing with the sectarianism.

makaveli1875
29-12-2018, 09:03 PM
what an embarrassment to our club that is. These idiots always seem to crawl out from under there rocks for the derby ae.

If you banned all the idiots from the football the grounds up and down the country would be empty. Small pockets of morally good guys quaffing prawn sandwiches won't make much of an atmosphere on derby day

percy veer
29-12-2018, 09:05 PM
Same ban as a player would get . Seven game ban

JeMeSouviens
29-12-2018, 09:05 PM
FFS, just to put the tin ****ing lid on the day

Hope his ban is in the post.

The 90+2
29-12-2018, 09:06 PM
While the guy is a clown for what he’s been caught saying I can’t help but feel sorry the amount of grief he’s going to get over the next wee while and banned from the football etc. The guys life is going to be turned upside down and the press will make more of an example to deflect anything said or done in Glasgow today.

Smartie
29-12-2018, 09:07 PM
If you banned all the idiots from the football the grounds up and down the country would be empty. Small pockets of morally good guys quaffing prawn sandwiches won't make much of an atmosphere on derby day

Being an idiot is fine, as long as you are being an idiot on the right side of the line of what is acceptable.

There are things that simply shouldn't happen, racial abuse is one of them.

bigwheel
29-12-2018, 09:07 PM
While the guy is a clown for what he’s been caught saying I can’t help but feel sorry the amount of grief he’s going to get over the next wee while and banned from the football etc. The guys life is going to be turned upside down and the press will make more of an example to deflect anything said or done in Glasgow today.

Deserves it

Johnny Clash
29-12-2018, 09:07 PM
If you banned all the idiots from the football the grounds up and down the country would be empty. Small pockets of morally good guys quaffing prawn sandwiches won't make much of an atmosphere on derby day

No ... the grounds would just be minus cretinous idiots. The rest of us would have a great time!

Connollys11
29-12-2018, 09:07 PM
If you banned all the idiots from the football the grounds up and down the country would be empty. Small pockets of morally good guys quaffing prawn sandwiches won't make much of an atmosphere on derby day
There's a difference between drunk folk singing there hearts out and racist ********s out to cause trouble.

Pretty Boy
29-12-2018, 09:08 PM
I just don’t get how anyone can, heat of the moment or otherwise, shout ‘black *******’ at someone. It makes me uncomfortable even typing it when quoting. The same goes for people shouting about fenians or the clown in the Hearts end pictured wearing the hang Neil Lennon T shirt.

Folk can blame drink, blame their age, blame emotion, blame peer pressure or whatever else but really there is no excuse for it. It’s shameful behaviour and everyone, young or old, is aware it’s unacceptable. It’s probably a timely reminder that using excuses like ‘it’s just words’ or ‘just a song’ only encourages complacency and allows the sectarianism that blights our society and the racism that rears it’s head from time to time to flourish.

I’m not some killyjoy either. I have no issue with a bit near the knuckle banter but there’s a line and it’s been crossed and then some.

Connollys11
29-12-2018, 09:08 PM
Being an idiot is fine, as long as you are being an idiot on the right side of the line of what is acceptable.

There are things that simply shouldn't happen, racial abuse is one of them.

Spot on smartie

The 90+2
29-12-2018, 09:09 PM
Deserves it

Probably in fact he deserves big **** but at the same time he’s going to be nationally hounded for a spur of the moment thing.

Connollys11
29-12-2018, 09:09 PM
I just don’t get how anyone can, heat of the moment or otherwise, shout ‘black *******’ at someone. It makes me uncomfortable even typing it when quoting. The same goes for people shouting about fenians or the clown in the Hearts end pictured wearing the hang Neil Lennon T shirt.

Folk can blame drink, blame their age, blame emotion, blame peer pressure or whatever else but really there is no excuse for it. It’s shameful behaviour and everyone, young or old, is aware it’s unacceptable. It’s probably a timely reminder that using excuses like ‘it’s just words’ or ‘just a song’ only encourages complacency and allows the sectarianism that blights our society and the racism that rears it’s head from time to time to flourish.

Exactly mate. How can you ever even bring yourself to shout something so hideous.

Smartie
29-12-2018, 09:10 PM
While the guy is a clown for what he’s been caught saying I can’t help but feel sorry the amount of grief he’s going to get over the next wee while and banned from the football etc. The guys life is going to be turned upside down and the press will make more of an example to deflect anything said or done in Glasgow today.

****** him.

We choose the words we use and live with the consequences of them.

It is not ok to racially abuse someone.

It is especially moronic in a crowd of 20,000 people, in an arena with floodlights on when at an event being televised live to the nation.

He deserves everything that's coming his way.

And he's brought more shame on our club than every crap midfielder who has played for us in our history put together.

Bristolhibby
29-12-2018, 09:11 PM
If you banned all the idiots from the football the grounds up and down the country would be empty. Small pockets of morally good guys quaffing prawn sandwiches won't make much of an atmosphere on derby day

Poor comment

J-C
29-12-2018, 09:12 PM
Guy 3 seats along from me shouted the same, I told him to shut the **** up and behave himself, he duly did, him and his compadre always arrive well pissed up and shout abuse at opposition players and linesmen all game long and well into the early 50's too, pathetic.

Hannah_hfc
29-12-2018, 09:13 PM
If you banned all the idiots from the football the grounds up and down the country would be empty. Small pockets of morally good guys quaffing prawn sandwiches won't make much of an atmosphere on derby day

Bloody hell.

There is a very large middle ground between prawn sandwiches and racist abuse. The latter does not contribute to atmosphere.


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Hibeesmad
29-12-2018, 09:13 PM
Those of us watching on Sky will likely have seen footage of a Hibs "supporter" racially abusing Dikamona.

Can someone who has access to recorded footage of the game please post an image of the offender so someone who knows the person in question can notify the Club and get this idiot banned?

Thanks

Look at this muppet

Connollys11
29-12-2018, 09:14 PM
****** him.

We choose the words we use and live with the consequences of them.

It is not ok to racially abuse someone.

It is especially moronic in a crowd of 20,000 people, in an arena with floodlights on when at an event being televised live to the nation.

He deserves everything that's coming his way.

And he's brought more shame on our club than every crap midfielder who has played for us in our history put together.

Superb post mate. Canny believe this guy is trying to blame the west coast media for this guys disgusting actions.

biscuitersed75
29-12-2018, 09:14 PM
I don't think there will be many on here who condone sectarianism.

Start a separate thread about it, and we can debate the rights and wrongs of what has been sung at Ibrox and Easter Road today.

The place for the debate is NOT on a thread where a Hibs fan has been caught about as obviously as it is possible to get racially abusing someone at our home.

"Whataboutery" is one of many reasons why the sectarian problem still exists to the extent it does in Scotland. Many Scots, especially those from the West, are conditioned to answer allegations of unacceptable behaviour with "aye, but what about....." in order to normalise the behaviour, to fool people into thinking it is widespread and acceptable.

We must not do likewise here.

100% condemnation, accept it happened, punish the guilty party and let everyone who is watching know that this is not on.

Then we can have some sort of integrity when it comes to dealing with the sectarianism.100% condemnation is accepted unequivocally. Think you're missing the point. Sectarianism does NOT provoke the same level of outrage on here for whatever reason, symptomatic of society's overall normalisation of this abhorrent behaviour.

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Swedish hibee
29-12-2018, 09:14 PM
Silly auld bugger, probably a life long fan will now be banned for the rest of his life, eejit but as someone said earlier it's a generation thing.

You cannot say it's a generation when there's thousands of that age attending Hibs games every week. Plus those Chelsea idiots on the train in France were all in the 20s.

we are hibs
29-12-2018, 09:16 PM
Being an idiot is fine, as long as you are being an idiot on the right side of the line of what is acceptable.

There are things that simply shouldn't happen, racial abuse is one of them.


I agree with this. Give me someone shouting ***** about how a game is going for 90 minutes over a racist moron who shouts once all night. I get pretty caught up in certain matches but never felt the need to shout racial abuse or throw objects at people doing their jobs.

Connollys11
29-12-2018, 09:16 PM
Bloody hell.

There is a very large middle ground between prawn sandwiches and racist abuse. The latter does not contribute to atmosphere.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk unbelievable ae. Let the racists keep coming to the games as without them there would be zero atmosphere. Racism is total disgusting and needs stamping out permanently.

J-C
29-12-2018, 09:16 PM
You cannot say it's a generation when there's thousands of that age attending Hibs games every week. Plus those Chelsea idiots on the train in France were all in the 20s.


Very true, I retract that comment, still a silly auld bugger though.

Gerard
29-12-2018, 09:17 PM
There is no excuse for uttering racist abuse at any racial group. It is a criminal offence. The police will conduct their investigation and in this case it would appear that there is sufficient evidence to prosecute this person.
If he is convicted he will probably go to jail.
He will be banned from Easter Road for life.
I would like to see people who make racist remarks given a chance to see the error of their ways by education and giving them a chance to change their unacceptable views by education.
I believe that people who break the law are capable of being reformed and becoming good citizens.
Racism has no place in our society.

Pretty Boy
29-12-2018, 09:19 PM
You cannot say it's a generation when there's thousands of that age attending Hibs games every week. Plus those Chelsea idiots on the train in France were all in the 20s.

I don’t buy the ‘generation thing’ either.

My Grandad is not far of 90. Whilst he might occasionally say ‘coloured’ or the like I’d be stunned if he ever came out with something like that tonight. He wouldn’t have done it in his 20s so he’s not about to start in his 80s. ‘He’s auld and doesn’t know any better’ is just patronising nonsense, particularly when you consider the number of older folk who don’t throw racist abuse about outnumbers those who do.

yonder1875
29-12-2018, 09:19 PM
There is no excuse for uttering racist abuse at any racial group. It is a criminal offence. The police will conduct their investigation and in this case it would appear that there is sufficient evidence to prosecute this person.
If he is convicted he will probably go to jail.
He will be banned from Easter Road for life.
I would like to see people who make racist remarks given a chance to see the error of their ways by education and giving them a chance to change their unacceptable views by education.
I believe that people who break the law are capable of being reformed and becoming good citizens.
Racism has no place in our society.

Sadly Gerard, racism for me is at its highest it’s been in our society for a good number of years. It’s ****ing horrible.

Smartie
29-12-2018, 09:27 PM
100% condemnation is accepted unequivocally. Think you're missing the point. Sectarianism does NOT provoke the same level of outrage on here for whatever reason, symptomatic of society's overall normalisation of this abhorrent behaviour.

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I don't think I am.

I think you have a fair point when you mention that sectarianism does not provoke the same level of outrage as racism, and that is unacceptable. There is a cultural acceptance of sectarianism in Scotland.

What your argument attempts to do is to reduce the seriousness of racism (a totally separate matter) to the lower level of sectarianism.

Whataboutery has no place in this argument.

Neil Lennon showed great bravery following the game at Tynecastle in calling out the anti-Irish racism, because that is what it is, and good for him. That is what needs to be done, not to downplay the seriousness of explicit racial abuse by mumbling "aye, but they got away with x, y or z."

The seriousness of sectarianism, of anti-Irish racism needs to be elevated and not brushed off as some sort of banter.

paul_hfc3
29-12-2018, 09:30 PM
No. Deal with our own idiots first.

Aye that's right turn a blind eye to it because that's always worked out well. It's racist pure and simple.

Some Hearts fans having a go at hibs fans class is hilarious. Their fans are regularly complete vermin and they revel in their own filth.

Tornadoes70
29-12-2018, 09:32 PM
There is no excuse for uttering racist abuse at any racial group. It is a criminal offence. The police will conduct their investigation and in this case it would appear that there issufficient evidence to prosecute this person.
If he is convicted he will probably go to jail.
He will be banned from Easter Road for life.
I would like to see people who make racist remarks given a chance to see the error of their ways by education and giving them a chance to change their unacceptable views by education.
I believe that people who break the law are capable of being reformed and becoming good citizens.
Racism has no place in our society.

Whether or not there is enough 'suggestive' evidence to support a prosecution in the event there was a not guilty plea there appears to be enough reasonable doubt to suggest he would have a case to support at least a 'not proven' verdict.

I've just spoken to a very good friend of mine who still works in the justice system and they agree with me that its not 100% certain or at least even beyond reasonable doubt yet in the absence of an expert lip reader to support a criminal conviction.

My very good friend has well over 40 years expertise in the Edinburgh law system and also strongly agrees with me that innocent until proven guilty or admitted guilt and everyone no matter the heinous nature of a crime has a right to a fair trial.

I'm not trying to prove he's not guilty merely suggesting we should refrain from becoming a 'hang em high' bunch of yee ha cowboys.

If he is found guilty or admits guilt then I'd hope he's served the appropriate punishments.

bigwheel
29-12-2018, 09:34 PM
Whether or not there is enough 'suggestive' evidence to support a prosecution in the event there was a not guilty plea there appears to be enough reasonable doubt to suggest he would have a case to support at least a 'not proven' verdict.

I've just spoken to a very good friend of mine who still works in the justice system and they agree with me that its not 100% certain or at least even beyond reasonable doubt yet in the absence of an expert lip reader to support conviction.

My very good friend has well over 40 years expertise in the Edinburgh law system and also strongly agrees with me that innocent until proven guilty or admitted guilt and everyone no matter the heinous nature of a crime 'everyone' has a right to a fair trial.

I'm not trying to prove he's not guilty merely suggesting we should refrain from becoming a 'hang em high' bunch of yee ha cowboys.

If he is found guilty or admits guilt then I'd hope he's served the appropriate punishments.

This isn’t about the requirements of the justice system really though is it ...it’s about an ignorant hateful racist prick in our support - let’s get him out of Easter Road. No definitive proof required - everyone knows what he said and his intent was

Jones28
29-12-2018, 09:36 PM
If you banned all the idiots from the football the grounds up and down the country would be empty. Small pockets of morally good guys quaffing prawn sandwiches won't make much of an atmosphere on derby day

Keep banning the ****s until they get the message. Get on board or **** off

Radium
29-12-2018, 09:39 PM
Bit of class from Marv

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Doh Rae Me
29-12-2018, 09:40 PM
Bit of class from Marv

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Marv is the man.

Hannah_hfc
29-12-2018, 09:51 PM
I must sit near you. When I saw the title of the thread i’d presumed it would of been something to do with that. Few throbbers in our support at the moment

I was right at the front row, it was a large section in the few rows behind. Not entirely sure if they just come for Derby’s but not sure where they would normally sit otherwise


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Ozyhibby
29-12-2018, 09:52 PM
If you banned all the idiots from the football the grounds up and down the country would be empty. Small pockets of morally good guys quaffing prawn sandwiches won't make much of an atmosphere on derby day

What a load of s****. We don’t need the kind of atmosphere rif raf like him bring. An indefinite ban should be heading his way. Hopefully send a message to all the other pond life out there as well.


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Gerard
29-12-2018, 09:53 PM
Whether or not there is enough 'suggestive' evidence to support a prosecution in the event there was a not guilty plea there appears to be enough reasonable doubt to suggest he would have a case to support at least a 'not proven' verdict.

I've just spoken to a very good friend of mine who still works in the justice system and they agree with me that its not 100% certain or at least even beyond reasonable doubt yet in the absence of an expert lip reader to support a criminal conviction.

My very good friend has well over 40 years expertise in the Edinburgh law system and also strongly agrees with me that innocent until proven guilty or admitted guilt and everyone no matter the heinous nature of a crime has a right to a fair trial.

I'm not trying to prove he's not guilty merely suggesting we should refrain from becoming a 'hang em high' bunch of yee ha cowboys.

If he is found guilty or admits guilt then I'd hope he's served the appropriate punishments.

Fair points
I also take the position of innocent until proven guilty regardless of the alleged crime.
If he is convicted in the criminal courts he will be punished. If that happens he should still be given a chance to change his behaviour. It is not enough to put people in prison and not offer a chance to change their criminal actions.

sh00byd00
29-12-2018, 09:54 PM
Couldn't believe what I was seeing. Looks like we have ouur own problems with racism.

Not sure if you're taking the piss or not. We'd be one of the only, if not the only, top flight club in the world that had no racist element if that was your belief. Racism is a society problem and like any other football club in the world, our fans make up part of that society. So it only stands to reason we have racists among our fans too.

Football being tribal and all that malarkey, of course there are some fans who still delude themselves into thinking this **** only affects other clubs and their own club fans are whiter than white. That eutopia doesn't exist in any shape or form. It's why no club can take the moral high ground. There will be more racists that will out themselves in the coming years/decades both at Easter Rd and elsewhere.

swindonhibs
29-12-2018, 09:56 PM
Disgraceful. Can someone also identify the catholic haters in the Hearts end, probably 200 of them, who were singing **** the Pope?

Whataboutary of the highest order.
Get a grip man. We are better than that.
GGTTH

Tornadoes70
29-12-2018, 09:57 PM
Fair points
I also take the position of innocent until proven guilty regardless of the alleged crime.
If he is convicted in the criminal courts he will be punished. If that happens he should still be given a chance to change his behaviour. It is not enough to put people in prison and not offer a chance to change their criminal actions.

:top marks

A thoroughly decent civilised post from you mate.

If he did say it I too would like to think he'd be afforded the opportunity of changing his behavior as we all want to live in a civilised society that rehabilitates as well as punishes.

Roxyhibee
29-12-2018, 10:04 PM
Heard a monkey chant a few rows up from me in the West Upper aimed at Dikamona in second half - genuinely thought I was hearing things as I’ve not heard that at ER for about 20 years or so in the old East.

Waited, and he clearly did it to Dikamona again a few minutes later. Turned round and challenged him, and was told to eff off, kept challenging him and it all got a bit heated (I couldn’t fight sleep but wasn’t letting him go) - think another guy behind me challenged him and his mates a bit too..

Turned round and started watching game again and a few minutes later he came down and apologised. He never did it again for the last half hour of the game and as far as I’m concerned, it’s over. I hope he knows people like me will never tolerate this or any homophobic trash talk.

Could have done with a bit back up from others who clearly heard it though..

Bishop Hibee
29-12-2018, 10:09 PM
Whataboutary of the highest order.
Get a grip man. We are better than that.
GGTTH

Rubbish. I stated the racism is “disgraceful “. So is the anti- catholic abuse from Hearts. I condemn both without reservation.

heid the baw
29-12-2018, 10:10 PM
:top marks

A thoroughly decent civilised post from you mate.

If he did say it I too would like to think he'd be afforded the opportunity of changing his behavior as we all want to live in a civilised society that rehabilitates as well as punishes.
A big part of the justice system is shaming people. Nothing wrong with that. It is up to the individual if they want to change after it, (usually done to avoid further shame).
In an example like this the punishment is less important than calling him out publicly for what he chose to do. He should be banned from Easter Road too. There are bairns sitting next to the auld radge.

Ozyhibby
29-12-2018, 10:11 PM
Whether or not there is enough 'suggestive' evidence to support a prosecution in the event there was a not guilty plea there appears to be enough reasonable doubt to suggest he would have a case to support at least a 'not proven' verdict.

I've just spoken to a very good friend of mine who still works in the justice system and they agree with me that its not 100% certain or at least even beyond reasonable doubt yet in the absence of an expert lip reader to support a criminal conviction.

My very good friend has well over 40 years expertise in the Edinburgh law system and also strongly agrees with me that innocent until proven guilty or admitted guilt and everyone no matter the heinous nature of a crime has a right to a fair trial.

I'm not trying to prove he's not guilty merely suggesting we should refrain from becoming a 'hang em high' bunch of yee ha cowboys.

If he is found guilty or admits guilt then I'd hope he's served the appropriate punishments.

He’s not been sent to jail, just banned from the football and there is enough evidence for that.


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eastmainsmsh
29-12-2018, 10:11 PM
There was a quiz at half time name the whitey bulger film starring Johnny Depp

Future17
29-12-2018, 10:13 PM
Whether or not there is enough 'suggestive' evidence to support a prosecution in the event there was a not guilty plea there appears to be enough reasonable doubt to suggest he would have a case to support at least a 'not proven' verdict.

I've just spoken to a very good friend of mine who still works in the justice system and they agree with me that its not 100% certain or at least even beyond reasonable doubt yet in the absence of an expert lip reader to support a criminal conviction.

My very good friend has well over 40 years expertise in the Edinburgh law system and also strongly agrees with me that innocent until proven guilty or admitted guilt and everyone no matter the heinous nature of a crime has a right to a fair trial.

I'm not trying to prove he's not guilty merely suggesting we should refrain from becoming a 'hang em high' bunch of yee ha cowboys.

If he is found guilty or admits guilt then I'd hope he's served the appropriate punishments.

You asked for an expert earlier. I assume you missed my post saying I have such expertise?

biscuitersed75
29-12-2018, 10:14 PM
I don't think I am.

I think you have a fair point when you mention that sectarianism does not provoke the same level of outrage as racism, and that is unacceptable. There is a cultural acceptance of sectarianism in Scotland.

What your argument attempts to do is to reduce the seriousness of racism (a totally separate matter) to the lower level of sectarianism.

Whataboutery has no place in this argument.

Neil Lennon showed great bravery following the game at Tynecastle in calling out the anti-Irish racism, because that is what it is, and good for him. That is what needs to be done, not to downplay the seriousness of explicit racial abuse by mumbling "aye, but they got away with x, y or z."

The seriousness of sectarianism, of anti-Irish racism needs to be elevated and not brushed off as some sort of banter.My point was about the respective levels of outcry about racist and sectarian incidents on this site, not in general terms. I stand by what I said earlier. You take the view that one is more serious than the other. Whilst there is legal debate around this, I also don't think you can ignore the personal impact of abuse, whether it be of a racist or sectarian nature.
I also totally refute your point that anything in my argument reduces the seriousness of what that guy did tonight. Action should and will be taken, quite rightly.

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Johnny_Leith
29-12-2018, 10:16 PM
Get this, and any other racist piece of ****, away from Hibs.

Get him banned and reported to the authorities, anyone else behaving the same way needs the exact same treatment.

****ing neanderthals.

CMurdoch
29-12-2018, 10:18 PM
Heard a monkey chant a few rows up from me in the West Upper aimed at Dikamona in second half - genuinely thought I was hearing things as I’ve not heard that at ER for about 20 years or so in the old East.

Waited, and he clearly did it to Dikamona again a few minutes later. Turned round and challenged him, and was told to eff off, kept challenging him and it all got a bit heated (I couldn’t fight sleep but wasn’t letting him go) - think another guy behind me challenged him and his mates a bit too..

Turned round and started watching game again and a few minutes later he came down and apologised. He never did it again for the last half hour of the game and as far as I’m concerned, it’s over. I hope he knows people like me will never tolerate this or any homophobic trash talk.

Could have done with a bit back up from others who clearly heard it though..

Well done. Shame on those around you for not backing you up. *hiters as they are known :wink:. *S

Connollys11
29-12-2018, 10:19 PM
Rubbish. I stated the racism is “disgraceful “. So is the anti- catholic abuse from Hearts. I condemn both without reservation.

Spot on bro

Jones28
29-12-2018, 10:20 PM
Heard a monkey chant a few rows up from me in the West Upper aimed at Dikamona in second half - genuinely thought I was hearing things as I’ve not heard that at ER for about 20 years or so in the old East.

Waited, and he clearly did it to Dikamona again a few minutes later. Turned round and challenged him, and was told to eff off, kept challenging him and it all got a bit heated (I couldn’t fight sleep but wasn’t letting him go) - think another guy behind me challenged him and his mates a bit too..

Turned round and started watching game again and a few minutes later he came down and apologised. He never did it again for the last half hour of the game and as far as I’m concerned, it’s over. I hope he knows people like me will never tolerate this or any homophobic trash talk.

Could have done with a bit back up from others who clearly heard it though..

Well done mate, takes balls to challenge people and takes even more to stick to it.

Frazerbob
29-12-2018, 10:22 PM
65 year old arrested

The 90+2
29-12-2018, 10:23 PM
****** him.

We choose the words we use and live with the consequences of them.

It is not ok to racially abuse someone.

It is especially moronic in a crowd of 20,000 people, in an arena with floodlights on when at an event being televised live to the nation.

He deserves everything that's coming his way.

And he's brought more shame on our club than every crap midfielder who has played for us in our history put together.

The boy regardless of what football team he supports is going to have to face up to a lot more abuse than he dished out. Yes, it’s disgusting but person to another person I wish the club police deal with thisnamd keave then to it.

Baldy Foghorn
29-12-2018, 10:23 PM
Man has been arrested for this

The 90+2
29-12-2018, 10:26 PM
Man has been arrested for this

Good. Leave it to the police and the club. The guys a public hate figure now.

RIP
29-12-2018, 10:27 PM
Silly auld bugger, probably a life long fan will now be banned for the rest of his life, eejit but as someone said earlier it's a generation thing.

I’m the same age and not one of my fellow sixty something Hibby mates would ever spew racist insults. More like my dads generation?

Jones28
29-12-2018, 10:27 PM
65 year old arrested

Good. Tattie bye, don't let the door hit your arse on he way oot

swindonhibs
29-12-2018, 10:27 PM
Rubbish. I stated the racism is “disgraceful “. So is the anti- catholic abuse from Hearts. I condemn both without reservation.

To be fair, you did in a later post. I apolologise for posting in haste before reading the full thread.

BobMilne
29-12-2018, 10:32 PM
Make him explain himself to big Marv and Efe. Then ban him!

He would ***** himself and portray himself as a saint. The mans a ****. Never got racism, especially when your team has people from different cultures.

Yuillsy
29-12-2018, 10:32 PM
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GordonR
29-12-2018, 10:33 PM
So Hertz fans sing **** the pope and the ira clear as day as well but no mention

Can you tell us what time the Pope came on as a sub for us, to be personally targeted for abuse by Hearts fans?

As someone said,, we need to deal with the problem in our own support, before we start pointing fingers at Hearts.

stoneyburn hibs
29-12-2018, 10:33 PM
No place for that now,ridiculous way to behave. Equally ridiculous is the faux indignation from posters jumping on the bandwagon on seeing this thread.
Mon the internet.

J-C
29-12-2018, 10:34 PM
I’m the same age and not one of my fellow sixty something Hibby mates would ever spew racist insults. More like my dads generation?


Please try and read all the posts, I have retracted that statement re generation in a reply to another poster.

BobMilne
29-12-2018, 10:36 PM
While the guy is a clown for what he’s been caught saying I can’t help but feel sorry the amount of grief he’s going to get over the next wee while and banned from the football etc. The guys life is going to be turned upside down and the press will make more of an example to deflect anything said or done in Glasgow today.

****ing good! Poor white supremisist who’s also a baldy ****. Let’s feel sorry for him and not the bile he appears to believe in which hurts many more than this twat.

hibbyfraelibby
29-12-2018, 10:40 PM
https://m.facebook.com/EdinburghPoliceDivision/photos/a.1396506803938831/2206347166288120/?type=3

NadeAteMyLunch!
29-12-2018, 10:41 PM
Not read all this thread so may have been covered already but don’t recall hearing “all the Hibees are gay” sang for a long time until tonight. Homophobia, racism and bigotry all on the rise again it would seem. Sad times

Rumble de Thump
29-12-2018, 10:41 PM
Why is it so easy easy to arrest one person for saying something racist yet seemingly impossible to arrest thousands of people for sectarianism? Is discriminating against a person because of their skin colour worse than discriminating against them because of their religion? Not having a go at anyone for their reactions. Genuinely interested.

Chorley Hibee
29-12-2018, 10:52 PM
Why is it so easy easy to arrest one person for saying something racist yet seemingly impossible to arrest thousands of people for sectarianism? Is discriminating against a person because of their skin colour worse than discriminating against them because of their religion? Not having a go at anyone for their reactions. Genuinely interested.

They're both despicable actions, but only one is given tacit approval by our authorities, and swathes of our own society too. I'll leave you to guess which one that is.

JeMeSouviens
29-12-2018, 10:55 PM
Not read all this thread so may have been covered already but don’t recall hearing “all the Hibees are gay” sang for a long time until tonight. Homophobia, racism and bigotry all on the rise again it would seem. Sad times

Depressing.

andyf5
29-12-2018, 11:03 PM
The boy regardless of what football team he supports is going to have to face up to a lot more abuse than he dished out. Yes, it’s disgusting but person to another person I wish the club police deal with thisnamd keave then to it.
He's been caught on national television committing a criminal offence while supporting hibs. Unlucky perhaps. I'm not sure how you can say he is going to have to face up to a lot more abuse than he dished out? What and from whom?

Gatecrasher
29-12-2018, 11:16 PM
Not read all this thread so may have been covered already but don’t recall hearing “all the Hibees are gay” sang for a long time until tonight. Homophobia, racism and bigotry all on the rise again it would seem. Sad times

The patter at derbies has been painful for a long time now. Who's gay, or who's pedophiles, who was where when the Scottish cup was won. Tonight was no different. Tonight both sets of supporters singing their own versions of the same songs to each other.

Bristolhibby
29-12-2018, 11:27 PM
Why is it so easy easy to arrest one person for saying something racist yet seemingly impossible to arrest thousands of people for sectarianism? Is discriminating against a person because of their skin colour worse than discriminating against them because of their religion? Not having a go at anyone for their reactions. Genuinely interested.

I guess it’s because this guy got caught, banged to rights, red handed, etc. It’s an easy collar.

That and he was broadcast live across the country, singularly and in full face.

J

Coco Bryce
29-12-2018, 11:50 PM
Why is it so easy easy to arrest one person for saying something racist yet seemingly impossible to arrest thousands of people for sectarianism? Is discriminating against a person because of their skin colour worse than discriminating against them because of their religion? Not having a go at anyone for their reactions. Genuinely interested.

We said the exact same at the game after that lot sang the FTP song.

The Baldmans Comb
30-12-2018, 12:11 AM
Call it out for what it is which was that an ageing Hibs fan called the Hearts player a Fu**ing Black Ba@tard which was clear as day on live TV.

A lifetime ban is definite and criminal proceedings almost certain.

Whataboutery is just deflection and this "fan" deserves everything heading his way.

Tornadoes70
30-12-2018, 12:14 AM
A big part of the justice system is shaming people. Nothing wrong with that. It is up to the individual if they want to change after it, (usually done to avoid further shame).
In an example like this the punishment is less important than calling him out publicly for what he chose to do. He should be banned from Easter Road too. There are bairns sitting next to the auld radge.

Put them in the stocks and throw rotten fruit at them would you aye.

He's not even been found guilty or admitted guilt yet.

Let the authorities deal with it and Hibernian fc instead of the Kangaroo Court eh.

bigwheel
30-12-2018, 12:16 AM
Put them in the stocks and throw rotten fruit at them would you aye.

He's not even been found guilty or admitted guilt yet.

Let the authorities deal with it and Hibernian fc instead of the Kangaroo Court eh.

Do you think he is innocent ? Did nothing wrong?


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Tornadoes70
30-12-2018, 12:22 AM
Do you think he is innocent ? Did nothing wrong?


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Read my earlier posts and you'll maybe understand my point of view.

bigwheel
30-12-2018, 12:24 AM
Read my earlier posts and you'll maybe understand my point of view.

You could have answered the question in less words....


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Tornadoes70
30-12-2018, 12:25 AM
You could have answered the question in less words....


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You don't like reading?

overdrive
30-12-2018, 12:27 AM
Where was he sat? Someone in section 25 (singing section) shouted the exact same thing at Dikamona, though I didn’t see who. Someone else in the same section (at least it sounded like a different person) was also calling Djoum a coon. Worryingly, the stewards seemed to find it all a bit funny.

bigwheel
30-12-2018, 12:28 AM
You don't like reading?

There are over 200 posts on this thread...I was interested in understanding your view...but not so much as to trawl through the entire thread tbh


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Tornadoes70
30-12-2018, 12:30 AM
There are over 200 posts on this thread...I was interested in understanding your view...but not so much as to trawl through the entire thread tbh


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That's up to you. If you can't be bothered reading my posts why should I answer to you. Rhetorical. If you can be bothered to read them you might get a picture of my views.

paul_hfc3
30-12-2018, 12:37 AM
"Arrest that racist!"

*200 hearts fans then sing* "**** the Pope!"

*everyone turns a blind eye*

Double standards at it's finest.

sorrow sorrow
30-12-2018, 12:42 AM
Just sign decent midfielders,Mallan Horgan Slivka r really ****,just accept it.when will we realise winning a derby at home means 2/3 thousand fans for the rest of the season

Hermit Crab
30-12-2018, 12:44 AM
"Arrest that racist!"

*200 hearts fans then sing* "**** the Pope!"

*everyone turns a blind eye*

Double standards at it's finest.


You can't just arrest 3800 fans, punishing the offending clubs fans would be a more appropriate punishment but we know the won't happen.

Bishop Hibee
30-12-2018, 12:48 AM
Call it out for what it is which was that an ageing Hibs fan called the Hearts player a Fu**ing Black Ba@tard which was clear as day on live TV.

A lifetime ban is definite and criminal proceedings almost certain.

Whataboutery is just deflection and this "fan" deserves everything heading his way.

There is no “whatabootery” on this thread. All there is is a hope that all abuse is treated equally.

gegs70
30-12-2018, 12:53 AM
https://mobile.twitter.com/Niall_Bullion/status/1079094314356166659?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcam p%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

Clear as day.

Could it have been directed at the referee?

Pete
30-12-2018, 12:55 AM
If he’s been identified then what’s the point of this thread being open any more?

Trial by internet?

DetroitHibs
30-12-2018, 12:59 AM
Honestly looking at the guy, you can pretty much tell he's had a hard life and probably not the brightest bulb. Does it excuse hit behavior, no. But why not try and educate him a little. Rather than a lifetime ban and fine, why not try and educate the silly auld fool.

The 90+2
30-12-2018, 12:59 AM
He's been caught on national television committing a criminal offence while supporting hibs. Unlucky perhaps. I'm not sure how you can say he is going to have to face up to a lot more abuse than he dished out? What and from whom?

Here for a start. It’s on all the national papers websites.

The guys going to regret it and be ashamed for the rest of his life, charges by police and banned from Hibs. He’s got caught up in the heat of the moment and unfortunately it’s been caught on camera.

Personally I feel more pity that someone would have anger based on the colour of someone’s skin but also compassion for how the guy will be thinking and facing.

Tornadoes70
30-12-2018, 12:59 AM
Could it have been directed at the referee?

Its certainly an argument of merit for a court of law if he did say what you're referring to. The video I saw clearly cuts away from the player and referee and does not show who if any the alleged remark was aimed at.

There's plenty of scope for reasonable doubt if it enters a court of law.

Tornadoes70
30-12-2018, 01:04 AM
There is no “whatabootery” on this thread. All there is is a hope that all abuse is treated equally.

Got to question just how a Hi bee's face is pictured across the nations screens when they turn a blind eye to the hatred that the many huns and jambos get away with week after week after week with zero done about it.

No whateboutery merely a question of equality as you rightly state.

Pete
30-12-2018, 01:04 AM
So that footage is all the evidence we have?

Are you having a ****ing laugh?

If the boy has been arrested on the back of that and nothing else it’s a bloody disgrace.

I’d like an expert to confirm what he was saying. Then another one because you get some stupid women who don’t always get it right.

1875godsgift
30-12-2018, 01:10 AM
Its certainly an argument of merit for a court of law if he did say what you're referring to. The video I saw clearly cuts away from the player and referee and does not show who if any the alleged remark was aimed at.

There's plenty of scope for reasonable doubt if it enters a court of law.


He could be saying 'Black bass'

He could be saying 'Slack pass'

He could be talking Gaelic, Welsh or Swahili for all I ****ing know.

Twitter storm in an internet teacup I think.

Tornadoes70
30-12-2018, 01:11 AM
So that footage is all the evidence we have?

Are you having a ****ing laugh?

If the boy has been arrested on the back of that and nothing else it’s a bloody disgrace.

I’d like an expert to confirm what he was saying. Then another one because you get some stupid women who don’t always get it right.

Exactly mate.

Anyone else seen pictures of the thug who threw the bottle at the hi bee's aunt on here plastered across the nations screens and newspapers to be publicly 'shamed'?

Remember the thug John someone who attacked Lenny at ***********? He got off scot free with running onto the pitch and aiming a swing at our Lenny.

Aye

Billychaotic182
30-12-2018, 01:13 AM
So that footage is all the evidence we have?

Are you having a ****ing laugh?

If the boy has been arrested on the back of that and nothing else it’s a bloody disgrace.

I’d like an expert to confirm what he was saying. Then another one because you get some stupid women who don’t always get it right.

Why defend it? Its disgusting. No place for it. We have black players who are disgusted by this. Man should not be allowed back. It’s 2018 if the colour of someone’s skin is the worst insult you can come up with then you are a fool. There is no point trying to defend it. Call it out for what it is. Racism

Tornadoes70
30-12-2018, 01:13 AM
He could be saying 'Black bass'

He could be saying 'Slack pass'

He could be talking Gaelic, Welsh or Swahili for all I ****ing know.

Twitter storm in an internet teacup I think.

Exactly what I thought upon seeing it and there were no pictures showing when and who aimed at.

Tornadoes70
30-12-2018, 01:16 AM
Why defend it? Its disgusting. No place for it. We have black players who are disgusted by this. Man should not be allowed back. It’s 2018 if the colour of someone’s skin is the worst insult you can come up with then you are a fool. There is no point trying to defend it. Call it out for what it is. Racism

If it is what it was allegedly not one of us would defend it.

However, week after week we see huns and jambos screaming sectarian filth and not a thing is done about it.

Why don't you write to the sfa and hun media calling out that hatred?

Pete
30-12-2018, 01:19 AM
Why defend it? Its disgusting. No place for it. We have black players who are disgusted by this. Man should not be allowed back. It’s 2018 if the colour of someone’s skin is the worst insult you can come up with then you are a fool. There is no point trying to defend it. Call it out for what it is. Racism

Whoah

Defend what exactly?

Is there conclusive proof of racism?

Trial by internet is quick, decisive and hangs people on the basis of public opinion.

Be careful.

Billychaotic182
30-12-2018, 01:20 AM
If it is what it was allegedly not one of us would defend it.

However, week after week we see huns and jambos screaming sectarian filth and not a thing is done about it.

Why don't you write to the sfa and hun media calling out that hatred?

It’s not a tit for tat mate. It’s all wrong and if the defence is “but rangers do this” it still doesn’t make it ok. It’s all wrong and we should not be trying to defend it or pass blame, we should be condemning it and stamping it out. Bartley has tweeted about it so it’s already now bothering our own players

Billychaotic182
30-12-2018, 01:22 AM
Whoah

Defend what exactly?

You said “If the boy has been arrested on the back of that and nothing else it’s a bloody disgrace”

It’s not a disgrace. What he did is a disgrace and he deserves all he gets

Pete
30-12-2018, 01:27 AM
You said “If the boy has been arrested on the back of that and nothing else it’s a bloody disgrace”

It’s not a disgrace. What he did is a disgrace and he deserves all he gets

“What he did is a disgrace”

What is it he did? I’m not asking what you, or other people think he did.

I’d be careful

Tornadoes70
30-12-2018, 01:30 AM
It’s not a tit for tat mate. It’s all wrong and if the defence is “but rangers do this” it still doesn’t make it ok. It’s all wrong and we should not be trying to defend it or pass blame, we should be condemning it and stamping it out. Bartley has tweeted about it so it’s already now bothering our own players

You're right mate its not tit for tat as its all one way hatred towards us from the odious uber biased huns and jambo media culture.

Marv and his good culture like most Hi bees have been condemned for centuries from the huns and jambo swine.

What we should be shaming is the murderous anti multi culturalist hatred anthems that the huns and jambos belt out every other week protected by their media swine.

They're the **** mate.

Billychaotic182
30-12-2018, 01:30 AM
“What he did is a disgrace”

What is it he did? I’m not asking what you, or other people think he did.

It’s pretty clear what he did. Let’s not kid ourselves and play dumb that’s embarrassing. We should not be sweeping this under the carpet. The man has clear as day spouted racial hate. There is no place for it

Pete
30-12-2018, 01:32 AM
“Clear as day”

This has to be the biggest wind up I’ve seen in my life.

Honesty, GTF 😂

el_fletch
30-12-2018, 01:33 AM
How about this - we have a considerable amount of support in Ireland and a massive section of Edinburgh’s catholic demographic are hugely Hibs.. while racist abuse from our end should be condemned so should the sectarian and racist abuse perpetrated by 100s maybe 1000s of Hearts fans instead of focusing on one guy in the crowd ?

Pete
30-12-2018, 01:34 AM
It’s pretty clear what he did. Let’s not kid ourselves and play dumb that’s embarrassing. We should not be sweeping this under the carpet. The man has clear as day spouted racial hate. There is no place for it

**** off with your platitudes buddy.

See what you want if it makes you feel better.

👍🏼

Liam978
30-12-2018, 01:39 AM
“What he did is a disgrace”

What is it he did? I’m not asking what you, or other people think he did.

I’d be careful

Aye ok then, too many armchair fans commenting. The Hibby's at ER are thinking, WTF , what about the sectarian bile emanating from the south stand.

Pete
30-12-2018, 01:47 AM
Aye ok then, too many armchair fans commenting. The Hibby's at ER are thinking, WTF , what about the sectarian bile emanating from the south stand.

I’m with you mate. :dunno:

If this alleged “racist” faces action in any way on the basis of that clip alone I swear I will get the crowdfunding started for a great lawyer.

I can’t believe some of the crap I’m reading.

Tornadoes70
30-12-2018, 01:47 AM
Aye ok then, too many armchair fans commenting. The Hibby's at ER are thinking, WTF , what about the sectarian bile emanating from the south stand.

Its entirely irrelevant to the guy filmed mouthing something at no one in particular.

Isn't it to be expected when the huns and jambos scream their sectarian filth week after week particularly the huns.

They'll probably throw the book at the hibby but nothing ever gets done about the hatred from the huns and jambos.

All we ask for is equality to be treated equally,

Mon the Cabbage!!!

:flag:

Billychaotic182
30-12-2018, 01:49 AM
**** off with your platitudes buddy.

See what you want if it makes you feel better.

👍🏼

Doesn’t make me feel better at all mate. Disgusted that this pish is still going on in society.

You turn a blind eye to it if it makes you feel better.

Liam978
30-12-2018, 01:53 AM
“What he did is a disgrace”

What is it he did? I’m not asking what you, or other people think he did.

I’d be careful

Aye ok then, too many armchair fans commenting on here. WTF, The real Hibby's in attendance cant be expected to see what is portrayed on TV but they do hear the sectarian bile emmanating from the south stand.

Tornadoes70
30-12-2018, 01:53 AM
Doesn’t make me feel better at all mate. Disgusted that this pish is still going on in society.

You turn a blind eye to it if it makes you feel better.

No one on here is turning a 'blind eye'. All we saw was one clip of the hearts player and ref then another of a hibby allegedly mouthing something. He's not been found guilty of anything yet though probably will because of what team he supports by the authorities.

Why don't you get on your Billy high horse about those who scream 'blue murder sectarianism' every other week?

Pete
30-12-2018, 01:58 AM
Doesn’t make me feel better at all mate. Disgusted that this pish is still going on in society.

You turn a blind eye to it if it makes you feel better.

No!

My eyes ARE open!

Tell me what your eyes see please.

Billychaotic182
30-12-2018, 02:02 AM
No one on here is turning a 'blind eye'. All we saw was one clip of the hearts player and ref then another of a hibby allegedly mouthing something. He's not been found guilty of anything yet though probably will because of what team he supports by the authorities.

Why don't you get on your Billy high horse about those who scream 'blue murder sectarianism' every other week?

I’ll think you’ll find I’ve been very vocal and condemned the crap that’s been sung from the away end over the years. But that doesn’t give us the right to spout hate. It’s wrong if it comes from hibs, hearts, rangers, Celtic, anyone! There is no place for it. I can’t see why people aren’t getting that! Also trying to deny what he’s clearly said is just trying to excuse it. We should be in agreement that this type of hate should not acceptable.

Tornadoes70
30-12-2018, 02:18 AM
I’ll think you’ll find I’ve been very vocal and condemned the crap that’s been sung from the away end over the years. But that doesn’t give us the right to spout hate. It’s wrong if it comes from hibs, hearts, rangers, Celtic, anyone! There is no place for it. I can’t see why people aren’t getting that! Also trying to deny what he’s clearly said is just trying to excuse it. We should be in agreement that this type of hate should not acceptable.

You're exactly the message carrier the huns jambo biased media wish to portray.

Hey we've got a clip of a hibby mouthing something to no one in particular but coupled it with a separate clip of a referee and black hearts player. Ergo Hibby Racist who'll probably agree to a deal of breach of the peace and we can brand every club as racist and sectarian but hey what can we do about it?

Aye.

Pete
30-12-2018, 02:18 AM
[QUOTE=Billychaotic182;5646760There is no place for it. I can’t see why people aren’t getting that! Also trying to deny what he’s clearly said is just trying to excuse it. We should be in agreement that this type of hate should not acceptable.[/QUOTE]

I honesty think people like yourself are a reason why the alt-right are growing in number.

You don’t ****ing listen.

You’ve been asked to clarify you’re statement but you can’t.

However, that won’t be your problem, it will be that of the guy who you will never meet🦡

I’m more than happy to discuss what he actually said. Any time. Let’s get a professional involved :agree:

matty_f
30-12-2018, 02:22 AM
Keep it civil please, or the thread is getting closed.

Tornadoes70
30-12-2018, 02:26 AM
Keep it civil please, or the thread is getting closed.

Should have been closed a long time afore. Not because of genuine hi bees who hate racism but because of the division from those who wish to create it.

The sooner an independent Scotland is created the better one hopes for.

el_fletch
30-12-2018, 02:27 AM
Referees are often referred to as black something or others no? Ken they don’t wear black often these days but old habits die hard 😇

Billychaotic182
30-12-2018, 02:28 AM
I honesty think people like yourself are a reason why the alt-right are growing in number.

You don’t ****ing listen.

You’ve been asked to clarify you’re statement but you can’t.

However, that won’t be your problem, it will be that of the guy who you will never meet🦡

I’m more than happy to discuss what he actually said. Any time. Let’s get a professional involved :agree:

He said clear as day “******ing black b*****d” hope that clears that up for you. Can I now ask you what you think he’s said? And tell me why he’s been arrested and why hibs have also came out and said this is unexplainable if he’s done nothing wrong!

Pete
30-12-2018, 02:30 AM
Keep it civil please, or the thread is getting closed.

I think closing it would be a good idea bud.

If the guys been arrested.....

Pete
30-12-2018, 02:32 AM
He said clear as day “******ing black b*****d” hope that clears that up for you.


Just dinnae. 🤣

When he’s been tried and found guilty I’ll back down.

If you’re going on a small clip with some second hand knowledge regarding lip reading then on you go.

The club will undoubtedly take a defensive stance but if this was to be escalated then I’ll know where I’ll put my money.

It’s nothing more than pathetic posturing.

Billychaotic182
30-12-2018, 02:34 AM
Just dinnae. 🤣

So answer my question then!

Pete
30-12-2018, 02:38 AM
So answer my question then!

You don’t have any questions mate. Just assumptions.

Tornadoes70
30-12-2018, 02:42 AM
You don’t have any questions mate. Just assumptions.

Good man Pete.

There's some who see and some who deliberately choose not to.

:wink:

Terrible result but we live to fight another day.

Mon the Cabbage!!!

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