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green with envy
24-12-2018, 10:00 AM
Seemingly this was discussed in the Hibs club after the game on Saturday that we will be exiting the game straight after the final whistle.

I've been told that fans rep Tracey Smith may know more on this?

Blaster
24-12-2018, 10:08 AM
Frank told me on Saturday that they had arranged for improved security but I didn’t get any more detail unfortunately

hibbymark
24-12-2018, 10:08 AM
Confirmed on the official matchday thread :agree:

traceyhibs
24-12-2018, 10:09 AM
Seemingly this was discussed in the Hibs club after the game on Saturday that we will be exiting the game straight after the final whistle.

I've been told that fans rep Tracey Smith may know more on this?

Hi there,

That’s correct. Unless anything serious happens throughout the game we will not be held back afterwards.

There will be cordons up and no rangers supporters will be anywhere near our turnstiles. Supporters buses will also be led to the M8 after the game by a police escort.

Should we be kept in we have use of the toilets.

There will be pictures being posted with the official communication to show the areas that will be cordoned off. I was due to pick these up on Saturday but unfortunately couldn’t make it to the game so cannot share them.

Thanks

Tracey


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JXM73
24-12-2018, 11:22 AM
Great for those on a bus or driving...

Ringothedog
24-12-2018, 02:53 PM
Hi there,

That’s correct. Unless anything serious happens throughout the game we will not be held back afterwards.

There will be cordons up and no rangers supporters will be anywhere near our turnstiles. Supporters buses will also be led to the M8 after the game by a police escort.

Should we be kept in we have use of the toilets.

There will be pictures being posted with the official communication to show the areas that will be cordoned off. I was due to pick these up on Saturday but unfortunately couldn’t make it to the game so cannot share them.

Thanks

Tracey


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What about those of us who are not travelling by supporters bus or car?

Jumbo
24-12-2018, 02:58 PM
I would say we are the guinea pigs for how they’re going to cope on Saturday !

traceyhibs
24-12-2018, 03:10 PM
What about those of us who are not travelling by supporters bus or car?

There are pictures of where everything Is cordoned but unfortunately haven’t been able to get my hands on them as couldn’t make the match on Saturday. Let me see if I can get a copy so you can see the best and safest route to take.


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Ringothedog
24-12-2018, 03:37 PM
There are pictures of where everything Is cordoned but unfortunately haven’t been able to get my hands on them as couldn’t make the match on Saturday. Let me see if I can get a copy so you can see the best and safest route to take.


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Cheers, they normally escort us down to govan subway and stick us on a train, hopefully it will be the same this time

BullsCloseHibs
24-12-2018, 03:42 PM
Will the police manage to stop the gobbins, coins and various other objects likely to be chucked at us?

Answers on a postcard.

Baldy Foghorn
24-12-2018, 03:45 PM
Frank can't post at the moment, but those heading to game out with bus or car, should proceed to the Broomloan Road End, and enter with the rest of the supporters.

Hibs will update the Website with more instructions later on.

Sir David Gray
24-12-2018, 03:52 PM
Recipe for disaster.

Baldy Foghorn
24-12-2018, 04:00 PM
Recipe for disaster.

Not from what I am hear.

Billy Whizz
24-12-2018, 04:01 PM
Recipe for disaster.

How is it? Walk from car to ground, no Rangers fans around?

Jumbo
24-12-2018, 04:06 PM
Looking forward to seeing how this works, at least we should be on motorway and on way home a lot quicker than usual

Billy Whizz
24-12-2018, 04:10 PM
Looking forward to seeing how this works, at least we should be on motorway and on way home a lot quicker than usual

Doesn’t say the cars in the car park are getting an escort, only the Hibs buses

Sir David Gray
24-12-2018, 04:15 PM
How is it? Walk from car to ground, no Rangers fans around?

If that happens then great but I'm not convinced by the Glasgow police's ability to keep our fans safe.

JXM73
24-12-2018, 04:17 PM
Think I'll take a flute, gay wee sash n a bowler hat just to be sure...

Billy Whizz
24-12-2018, 04:19 PM
If that happens then great but I'm not convinced by the Glasgow police's ability to keep our fans safe.

Have a look on the Rangers site, it’s got all the details

SteveHFC
24-12-2018, 04:44 PM
Think I'll take a flute, gay wee sash n a bowler hat just to be sure...

I'll be dressed in green from head to toe. :agree:

WhileTheChief..
24-12-2018, 04:50 PM
And you’ll be absolutely fine. It’s only Glasgow!

Centre Hawf
24-12-2018, 05:19 PM
Having been to the game earlier on in the year I wish everyone safe passage to and from the game. Vile atmosphere made worse by the treatment from Glasgows finest.

JimboHibs
24-12-2018, 05:26 PM
If that happens then great but I'm not convinced by the Glasgow police's ability to keep our fans safe.

The way you rattle on about Rangers away,It's hardly like a scene from The Warriors trying to make it back to Edinburgh.

Sir David Gray
24-12-2018, 05:31 PM
The way you rattle on about Rangers away,It's hardly like a scene from The Warriors trying to make it back to Edinburgh.

You're dealing with the absolute dregs of society through there.

Nakedmanoncrack
24-12-2018, 06:56 PM
Cheers, they normally escort us down to govan subway and stick us on a train, hopefully it will be the same this time

Doesn't appear anything in place for those of us using public transport, if we all leave together those behind barriers going to buses may be fine, but will be chaos for rest of us.

Ringothedog
24-12-2018, 06:59 PM
Doesn't appear anything in place for those of us using public transport, if we all leave together those behind barriers going to buses may be fine, but will be chaos for rest of us.

Sounds like it will be fun after the game as there is usually a few hundred of us.I am wondering how it will work prior to the game when we walk up from Ibrox station especially if it is cordoned off.

Hermit Crab
24-12-2018, 07:53 PM
ALL Rangers Supporters attending the Hibernian and Celtic matches should be aware of the access routes to Ibrox for these upcoming games.
As the matches have been deemed high risk by Police Scotland there will be barriers at the away supporter section in the North West Corner of the stadium.
Rangers fans will not be able to access the stadium from Broomloan Road. Please access the stadium footprint from Edmiston Drive, Harrison Drive or Ma*****g Street.
Please note the ticket centre will be open from 10am until kick off against Hibs. The ticket centre will not be open prior to the Old Firm fixture – smartcard and ticket enquires will be directed to the Copland ticket outlet behind the Copland Stand.
Rangers Supporters will not have access to Broomloan Road – Coach and Bus Parking in streets other than Broomloan Road are not affected.

chinaman
24-12-2018, 07:53 PM
If that happens then great but I'm not convinced by the Glasgow police's ability to keep our fans safe.

the ****ing police are bigoted hun fans anyway.
dont hold yer breath with them tools to help us

Hermit Crab
24-12-2018, 07:59 PM
he ****ing police are bigoted hun fans anyway.[/B]
dont hold yer breath with them tools to help us


Absolute rubbish, do you think this is 1975 or something?

Smartie
24-12-2018, 08:01 PM
ALL Rangers Supporters attending the Hibernian and Celtic matches should be aware of the access routes to Ibrox for these upcoming games.
As the matches have been deemed high risk by Police Scotland there will be barriers at the away supporter section in the North West Corner of the stadium.
Rangers fans will not be able to access the stadium from Broomloan Road. Please access the stadium footprint from Edmiston Drive, Harrison Drive or Ma*****g Street.
Please note the ticket centre will be open from 10am until kick off against Hibs. The ticket centre will not be open prior to the Old Firm fixture – smartcard and ticket enquires will be directed to the Copland ticket outlet behind the Copland Stand.
Rangers Supporters will not have access to Broomloan Road – Coach and Bus Parking in streets other than Broomloan Road are not affected.

Out of interest, what is starred out?

CropleyWasGod
24-12-2018, 08:07 PM
Out of interest, what is starred out?The clue is....

It's been relieved [emoji6]

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Walter
24-12-2018, 08:09 PM
the ****ing police are bigoted hun fans anyway.
dont hold yer breath with them tools to help us

:clown::clown:

Ok then

linlithgowhibbie
24-12-2018, 08:10 PM
Out of interest, what is starred out?

Ma*****g St. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:greengrin

Nakedmanoncrack
24-12-2018, 08:25 PM
M a f e king Street.

cleanyman
24-12-2018, 08:29 PM
Its only Glasgow for **** sake

Not Baghdad

If you're looking for trouble you'll get it

Sir David Gray
24-12-2018, 08:33 PM
Out of interest, what is starred out?


M a f e king Street.

I can just hear one of the locals shouting at a wee thief that's causing bother "Get out of ma *****g street!" :faf:

Kojock
24-12-2018, 08:44 PM
I’ve not missed a Hibs game at Ibrox since 1985. We’ve parked in the Main Street and parked in the official car park. We’ve drank in all the bars at the away end and yet we still survive to tell the tale. Yes there’s been a bit of unpleasantness at times within and outside the ground but I’ve never feared for my safety. My grandson is 6 years old and I would not hesitate to take him with me. All these posts are scaremongering at its worse.

Hermit Crab
24-12-2018, 09:00 PM
Out of interest, what is starred out?




M a f e king Street.

Barney McGrew
24-12-2018, 09:06 PM
All these posts are scaremongering at its worse.

When we played them there around Christmas time a couple of years ago, a young girl near us got hit with a coin, another guy got hit square on the head with a cup of what I hope was juice and one of their own stewards got karted out with his head split open after being taken out by a zippo lighter launched from above. The police stood by that day and did nothing.....there was one guy down the front of the Rangers section who spent the whole match screaming full on sectarian abuse at us, with a copper stood next to him doing nothing but smirking.


Unfortunately, the posts above are far from scaremongering.

B.H.F.C
24-12-2018, 09:12 PM
When we played them there around Christmas time a couple of years ago, a young girl near us got hit with a coin, another guy got hit square on the head with a cup of what I hope was juice and one of their own stewards got karted out with his head split open after being taken out by a zippo lighter launched from above. The police stood by that day and did nothing.....there was one guy down the front of the Rangers section who spent the whole match screaming full on sectarian abuse at us, with a copper stood next to him doing nothing but smirking.


Unfortuntaely, the posts above are far from scaremongering.

That was the only time I’ve ever genuinely feared for my safety at a game of football. It was on a different level that day.

Other than that we always get the tube to and from Ibrox and have never had any bother. I’ve maybe been lucky that the various objects thrown in our direction have missed me right enough.

Sir David Gray
24-12-2018, 09:20 PM
When we played them there around Christmas time a couple of years ago, a young girl near us got hit with a coin, another guy got hit square on the head with a cup of what I hope was juice and one of their own stewards got karted out with his head split open after being taken out by a zippo lighter launched from above. The police stood by that day and did nothing.....there was one guy down the front of the Rangers section who spent the whole match screaming full on sectarian abuse at us, with a copper stood next to him doing nothing but smirking.


Unfortuntaely, the posts above are far from scaremongering.

Yep no scaremongering or exaggerating from me. It's a horrible experience, the only good part has been when we've won so often in recent years.

Absolute pondlife of a support.

Kojock
24-12-2018, 09:33 PM
When we played them there around Christmas time a couple of years ago, a young girl near us got hit with a coin, another guy got hit square on the head with a cup of what I hope was juice and one of their own stewards got karted out with his head split open after being taken out by a zippo lighter launched from above. The police stood by that day and did nothing.....there was one guy down the front of the Rangers section who spent the whole match screaming full on sectarian abuse at us, with a copper stood next to him doing nothing but smirking.


Unfortunately, the posts above are far from scaremongering.

Fair enough getting hit by a coin or a lighter is painfull but a cup of juice ain’t going to do a lot of damage to you. Neither is someone calling you sectarian names. Do you think our fans don’t throw stuff or abuse them back??

marinello59
24-12-2018, 11:05 PM
When we played them there around Christmas time a couple of years ago, a young girl near us got hit with a coin, another guy got hit square on the head with a cup of what I hope was juice and one of their own stewards got karted out with his head split open after being taken out by a zippo lighter launched from above. The police stood by that day and did nothing.....there was one guy down the front of the Rangers section who spent the whole match screaming full on sectarian abuse at us, with a copper stood next to him doing nothing but smirking.


Unfortunately, the posts above are far from scaremongering.

That same game my then 14 year old nearly got hit on the head by a broken seat. Thrown by a Hibs fan. My wife was knocked to the ground and her glasses knocked off by a Hibs fan rushing toward the Sevco support after we scored. Surprise, he ran straight at a steward to be held back. :greengrin There were coins getting chucked all around us. Many of them by Hibs fans. The guy in front of me was going mental at the stewards for not chucking out a Rangers fan waving a ‘sectarian’ flag. It was an Irish FA flag. His mate stood next to him was holding a tricolour. Idiots on both sides that day.
Despite all that it’s one of my favourite fixtures. I actually prefer it to Parkhead.

chinaman
25-12-2018, 06:05 PM
:clown::clown:

Ok then

G.t.f officer

kaimendhibs
25-12-2018, 07:03 PM
I've never had bother outside ground, it's inside we are in trouble. Stewards facing us allowing the ****bags to launch everything and anything into our end with impunity.

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Mick O'Rourke
25-12-2018, 07:11 PM
M a f e king Street.


Bit o trivia

Well named street with its history for ambushing opposing fans back in the day:duck:

Named in "honour" of "The Seige of Ma f e k i n g" during the Boer War.

Just before 1902, as it happens

Austinho
25-12-2018, 08:43 PM
the ****ing police are bigoted hun fans anyway.
dont hold yer breath with them tools to help usA lad I went to school with got chucked out of the police force after he was caught singing or shouting sectarian abuse at Ibrox. Read it in the national newspapers a few years ago.

Hermit Crab
25-12-2018, 09:23 PM
G.t.f officer


No need.

hibbysam
25-12-2018, 09:43 PM
That was the only time I’ve ever genuinely feared for my safety at a game of football. It was on a different level that day.

Other than that we always get the tube to and from Ibrox and have never had any bother. I’ve maybe been lucky that the various objects thrown in our direction have missed me right enough.

Agreed and more to do with the fixture basically being a match with the title on the line. I’ve been there many a time and although it’s a far from pleasant experience, I never come out thinking ‘thank **** those polismen are holding us back for my safety’. It should be the safest, easiest bit of policing possible to get fans marched down to the away car park.

Itsnoteasy
25-12-2018, 09:52 PM
Fair enough getting hit by a coin or a lighter is painfull but a cup of juice ain’t going to do a lot of damage to you. Neither is someone calling you sectarian names. Do you think our fans don’t throw stuff or abuse them back??

I think their point was that they were not sure if it was juice.

bodhibs
25-12-2018, 10:13 PM
No need.

As with most of your posts, I concur.

danhibees1875
25-12-2018, 11:33 PM
I think their point was that they were not sure if it was juice.

I think so too, but I also wouldn't want to be hit with a cup of Fanta either! That's more annoying than any level of sectarian abuse to me, very sticky.

DH1875
26-12-2018, 09:58 AM
Remember, there's no trains from Edinburgh, Falkirk, Stirling etc......too Glasgow today so doubt many of our fans will be using public transport.

DH1875
26-12-2018, 10:03 AM
Doesn't appear anything in place for those of us using public transport, if we all leave together those behind barriers going to buses may be fine, but will be chaos for rest of us.Like I said in previous post, most train services to Glasgow are off so police probably not expecting many of our fans to be using public transport today.

Ringothedog
26-12-2018, 10:19 AM
Remember, there's no trains from Edinburgh, Falkirk, Stirling etc......too Glasgow today so doubt many of our fans will be using public transport.

There’s a few of us on the10.35 m900, there will be quite a few using public transport

Nakedmanoncrack
26-12-2018, 12:56 PM
Like I said in previous post, most train services to Glasgow are off so police probably not expecting many of our fans to be using public transport today.

Quite a few on the 900 bus that I came through on, along with a sprinkling of Huns.

traceyhibs
26-12-2018, 01:19 PM
Can anyone going by public transport please feedback as to getting to the ground and afterwards.


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Killiehibbie
26-12-2018, 06:19 PM
Can anyone going by public transport please feedback as to getting to the ground and afterwards.


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Not allowed to leve car park until home support had been allowed to pass. Locked in the ground or car park.
Certainly better with more police in the ground deterring the missile throwers.

B.H.F.C
26-12-2018, 06:28 PM
Can anyone going by public transport please feedback as to getting to the ground and afterwards.


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No hassle but the police has clearly given it no consideration. Once I was 50 yards down the road there was no police to be seen the rest of the way to the subway at Govan.

If what I read is right, and th Celtic fans at being bussed from Parkhead, the police were clearly replicating the exercise for Saturday and had forgotten (or didn’t care) that Hibs fans would have to do that.

Doesn’t overly bother me as I’ve never had any bother going to from the subway.

kaimendhibs
26-12-2018, 06:34 PM
Car park was full 45 minutes before kick off. We had to park away along the street and walk back past Sevco fans. Copper told me he would be pleased if all fans came by supporters bus when I said it wasn't safe. To be fair, it was fine after the match, walked to car in complete safety as no Sevco allowed round that way.
Hardly any missiles whatsoever inside ground.
Can't remember the Sevconian so quiet at home, Gerrard must be worried because they are revolting

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HibeeHibernian4
26-12-2018, 06:40 PM
Can't remember the Sevconian so quiet at home, Gerrard must be worried because they are revolting

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They’ve always been revolting to be fair.

Nakedmanoncrack
26-12-2018, 06:41 PM
Can anyone going by public transport please feedback as to getting to the ground and afterwards.


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Hi Tracey, doesn't seem to have been any thought given to those using public transport. Could have turned nasty with no police or stewards at the underground, fortunately the rage seemed to be focused on the manager & players rather than us. We normally get a dedicated train that runs non stop to Buchanan St, this time we had to squeeze in among the Huns, was great fun, with a few guys rather bravely singing Hibs sings, I settled for hiding a grin, but as I say could have turned nasty, certainly a deterioration on the normal level of security.

silverhibee
26-12-2018, 06:49 PM
No hassle but the police has clearly given it no consideration. Once I was 50 yards down the road there was no police to be seen the rest of the way to the subway at Govan.

If what I read is right, and th Celtic fans at being bussed from Parkhead, the police were clearly replicating the exercise for Saturday and had forgotten (or didn’t care) that Hibs fans would have to do that.

Doesn’t overly bother me as I’ve never had any bother going to from the subway.

As you say, this was a re-run before Celtc visit at the weekend, I drove to game, kept in the car park until 5.30 then allowed out, police had everything blocked of so that buses and cars had a straight run up to the M8, police officers on both sides of the roads making sure no one got near and all traffic held back to let us out, this must be costing a fortune and a lot of police taken away from other areas to look after football fans attending Ipox.

Crazy stuff.

traceyhibs
26-12-2018, 07:13 PM
Thanks everyone for all the feedback. Will relay this back to our security officer.

Hope everyone got home safely.


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kaimendhibs
26-12-2018, 07:14 PM
Thanks everyone for all the feedback. Will relay this back to our security officer.

Hope everyone got home safely.


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkI spoke to him before the game. Said he would feedback concerns

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traceyhibs
26-12-2018, 07:15 PM
I spoke to him before the game. Said he would feedback concerns

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Thank you


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Jamesie
26-12-2018, 08:06 PM
As you say, this was a re-run before Celtc visit at the weekend, I drove to game, kept in the car park until 5.30 then allowed out, police had everything blocked of so that buses and cars had a straight run up to the M8, police officers on both sides of the roads making sure no one got near and all traffic held back to let us out, this must be costing a fortune and a lot of police taken away from other areas to look after football fans attending Ipox.

Crazy stuff.

Must have been between 100-200 Polis lining the Broomloan on the run up to the M8! Some amount of overtime that

Jamesie
26-12-2018, 08:07 PM
Car park was full 45 minutes before kick off. We had to park away along the street and walk back past Sevco fans. Copper told me he would be pleased if all fans came by supporters bus when I said it wasn't safe. To be fair, it was fine after the match, walked to car in complete safety as no Sevco allowed round that way.
Hardly any missiles whatsoever inside ground.
Can't remember the Sevconian so quiet at home, Gerrard must be worried because they are revolting

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Just out of interest where did they have you park?

660
26-12-2018, 08:11 PM
Seemed like they were using us as a trial run for old firm game. Was fine tbh

kaimendhibs
26-12-2018, 08:16 PM
Just out of interest where did they have you park?Along the road past the Copeland road end

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DarlingtonHibee
26-12-2018, 08:30 PM
Must have been between 100-200 Polis lining the Broomloan on the run up to the M8! Some amount of overtime that

Do rangers have to pay the full amount?

cabbageandribs1875
26-12-2018, 08:39 PM
Do rangers have to pay the full amount?



a run down of policing costs for scottish football clubs
https://theferret.scot/police-scotland-charged-scottish-football-clubs/

danhibees1875
26-12-2018, 08:48 PM
Car park was full 45 minutes before kick off. We had to park away along the street and walk back past Sevco fans. Copper told me he would be pleased if all fans came by supporters bus when I said it wasn't safe. To be fair, it was fine after the match, walked to car in complete safety as no Sevco allowed round that way.
Hardly any missiles whatsoever inside ground.
Can't remember the Sevconian so quiet at home, Gerrard must be worried because they are revolting

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Rangers fans have always been, and will always be, revolting.

Sir David Gray
26-12-2018, 08:59 PM
I'm pleased that my concerns appear to have come to nothing and that everyone got home safely.

Argylehibby
26-12-2018, 09:06 PM
Tracey, they let the busses out but held the rest of us in cars back for some time thereafter. As soon as the busses were away the the majority of the cops left. When we got out of the car park the vast majority of the home fans had gone.

Nobody got out the car park until the team bus left. Not sure why they couldn't have let everyone away sooner to be honest. At least we got to head straight over to the M8 rather than the longer route we usually get sent on.

As many have said this was a run through for the police ahead of the next game. Is it likely to be repeated for us in future visits?

traceyhibs
26-12-2018, 09:11 PM
Tracey, they let the busses out but held the rest of us in cars back for some time thereafter. As soon as the busses were away the the majority of the cops left. When we got out of the car park the vast majority of the home fans had gone.

Nobody got out the car park until the team bus left. Not sure why they couldn't have let everyone away sooner to be honest. At least we got to head straight over to the M8 rather than the longer route we usually get sent on.

As many have said this was a run through for the police ahead of the next game. Is it likely to be repeated for us in future visits?

Yeah seemed like we were in the car park for ages and I was on a bus.

Will be checking to see if this will be happening at each visit or whether it’s just going to be for Celtic in future.




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kaimendhibs
26-12-2018, 09:19 PM
Rangers fans have always been, and will always be, revolting.Glad you noticed my humour

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Sean1875
26-12-2018, 11:43 PM
Absolutely no bother at all today. And for the record, I was in GW3 and in the last seat next to the segregation and the copper next to me was a Celtic fan and sound as ****. They’re not all bad there.


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Green Team
27-12-2018, 05:48 AM
We got off the Subway at Ibrox on the way there. Walked up to the away end to be turned away by a very unhelpful PC who insisted we walk all the way around the stadium to the other side. All he had to do was step to the side and let us through.
On arrival at the other side it was obvious we weren't going to get through so asked an Inspector what the story was and he advised us to walk down the road and turn right, although he wasn't really sure how far away it was! All in all 25-30 minutes wasted wandering from one place to another without any real guidance.
The way back was much more straight forward, walked to Govan station and back to Queen Street in no time.

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Nakedmanoncrack
27-12-2018, 08:35 AM
We got off the Subway at Ibrox on the way there. Walked up to the away end to be turned away by a very unhelpful PC who insisted we walk all the way around the stadium to the other side. All he had to do was step to the side and let us through.
On arrival at the other side it was obvious we weren't going to get through so asked an Inspector what the story was and he advised us to walk down the road and turn right, although he wasn't really sure how far away it was! All in all 25-30 minutes wasted wandering from one place to another without any real guidance.
The way back was much more straight forward, walked to Govan station and back to Queen Street in no time.

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I also got off at Ibrox and approached the fortifications, however unlike for you, the police opened it up to let me through, so not very consistent.

Sir David Gray
27-12-2018, 08:41 AM
Absolutely no bother at all today. And for the record, I was in GW3 and in the last seat next to the segregation and the copper next to me was a Celtic fan and sound as ****. They’re not all bad there.


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You're lucky, my brother was also sitting right next to the segregation and complained to an officer about some of the things he could hear them shouting at our fans and was told he would be chucked out if he said any more.

Argylehibby
27-12-2018, 11:21 AM
Yeah seemed like we were in the car park for ages and I was on a bus.

Will be checking to see if this will be happening at each visit or whether it’s just going to be for Celtic in future.


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Meant to add, just as well it wasn't raining considering those using public transport had to stand about at the front of the car park. Had it rained I'm sure they would have preferred to stay in the ground where it was dry.

There was no difference as far as getting away quicker between being held in the ground as in previous years or the car park this time. All this did was deprive us of a decent sing-a-long!

Lemonade
27-12-2018, 11:27 AM
You're lucky, my brother was also sitting right next to the segregation and complained to an officer about some of the things he could hear them shouting at our fans and was told he would be chucked out if he said any more.

I would love for this type of situation to be filmed and put online .

WhileTheChief..
27-12-2018, 11:35 AM
Why?

There’s plenty Hibs fans shout things at Rangers fans too, should they be reportedly to the police?

It’s getting ridiculous these days. Fans shout bad things at the football, you might even hear some swear words. It’s the way it has been, is and hopefully always will be.

To want the police involved is mental.

We really need to toughen up as a support and leave the cotton socks at home.

Every time we get warned about going to Ibrox yet every time things are fine. It’s almost as if you wanted there to be trouble so you can go “told you so”.

#workingclassmensgame

JXM73
27-12-2018, 11:50 AM
Why?

There’s plenty Hibs fans shout things at Rangers fans too, should they be reportedly to the police?

It’s getting ridiculous these days. Fans shout bad things at the football, you might even hear some swear words. It’s the way it has been, is and hopefully always will be.

To want the police involved is mental.

We really need to toughen up as a support and leave the cotton socks at home.

Every time we get warned about going to Ibrox yet every time things are fine. It’s almost as if you wanted there to be trouble so you can go “told you so”.

#workingclassmensgame

Aye just bury your head in the sand, back to the 1970s with you.. sectarianism or racism has no place in todays society. The coppers attitude should have been filmed and reported if it even happened.

Silky
27-12-2018, 11:56 AM
You're lucky, my brother was also sitting right next to the segregation and complained to an officer about some of the things he could hear them shouting at our fans and was told he would be chucked out if he said any more.

On what grounds would he be chucked out? Copper would have been on dodgy ground there imo. I'd have taken his number and reported him.

WhileTheChief..
27-12-2018, 12:31 PM
Aye just bury your head in the sand, back to the 1970s with you.. sectarianism or racism has no place in todays society. The coppers attitude should have been filmed and reported if it even happened.

Who mentioned anything about racism or sectarianism?

But yeah I’d take football in the 70s or 80s over he family friendly stuff we get rammed down our throats nowadays.

CropleyWasGod
27-12-2018, 12:37 PM
Who mentioned anything about racism or sectarianism?

But yeah I’d take football in the 70s or 80s over he family friendly stuff we get rammed down our throats nowadays.In order to stop things being rammed down my throat, I close my mouth [emoji6]

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ben johnson
27-12-2018, 12:54 PM
On what grounds would he be chucked out? Copper would have been on dodgy ground there imo. I'd have taken his number and reported him.

Their get you into jail free card , Breach of the Peace
Kept in overnight and let out at 6am or so my mate told me

WhileTheChief..
27-12-2018, 01:01 PM
In order to stop things being rammed down my throat, I close my mouth [emoji6]

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Very good ;)

CMurdoch
27-12-2018, 01:22 PM
You're lucky, my brother was also sitting right next to the segregation and complained to an officer about some of the things he could hear them shouting at our fans and was told he would be chucked out if he said any more.

To be fair his main job was to be a human barrier to prevent the numpties from both sides physically hurting each other or having a dancing competition.

Billy Whizz
27-12-2018, 01:38 PM
I didn’t notice anything getting thrown at the Hibs support today
If that’s the case, that’s progress

tartanhibee
27-12-2018, 01:49 PM
I seen one cup of juice that came from the hibs end and rangers scarf ended up just in front of me, apart from that I think it passed off rather peacefully. Quite enjoyed my day out and nowhere near the hostility of previous visits.

marinello59
27-12-2018, 01:50 PM
Who mentioned anything about racism or sectarianism?

But yeah I’d take football in the 70s or 80s over he family friendly stuff we get rammed down our throats nowadays.

Family friendly stuff we get rammed down our throats? :faf:

Hibernian Verse
27-12-2018, 02:00 PM
It was quite well natured yesterday. However I had an issue with a number of our own fans never mind huns.

The young team made up of 20 or so bams (not the singing section guys we like them) were near me and they were a nightmare. None of them could see straight, back and forth to the toilet doing whatever drug they had on them and doing slit throat and IRA gestures to the Rangers fans with the flag supporting Lee Rigby.

They will all be 00s kids, I didn't have the chance to ask them if they knew what they were doing, who Lee Rigby was murdered by and if they supported terrorism on British streets

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Hibernian Verse
27-12-2018, 02:11 PM
Glad it wasn't just me that noticed. Exactly the same guys you are on about.

They also tried to move hibs fans out their own seats so they could get closer to the rangers fans and act like the big men they obviously are.

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silverhibee
27-12-2018, 02:16 PM
I didn’t notice anything getting thrown at the Hibs support today
If that’s the case, that’s progress

Just after we scored something was thrown from the top tier Bill, but a big improvement on previous visits, bit weird not seeing any zombies after the game either, just a wall of fluorescent jackets all the way up to the motorway.

Hibernian Verse
27-12-2018, 02:19 PM
Just after we scored something was thrown from the top tier Bill, but a big improvement on previous visits, bit weird not seeing any zombies after the game either, just a wall of fluorescent jackets all the way up to the motorway.They tried getting in the car park from the back but were quickly dispersed

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Hermit Crab
27-12-2018, 02:24 PM
It was quite well natured yesterday. However I had an issue with a number of our own fans never mind huns.

The young team made up of 20 or so bams (not the singing section guys we like them) were near me and they were a nightmare. None of them could see straight, back and forth to the toilet doing whatever drug they had on them and doing slit throat and IRA gestures to the Rangers fans with the flag supporting Lee Rigby.

They will all be 00s kids, I didn't have the chance to ask them if they knew what they were doing, who Lee Rigby was murdered by and if they supported terrorism on British streets

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I recognised a few who were at Aberdeen away when they were giving it big licks because there was a fence between them and the Aberdeen fans, all sorts of abuse howled out from them. Yesterday, one of the main culprits I seen at Aberdeen was as quiet as a mouse, possibly because there was no fence between them and the Huns, looked like they didn't fancy it yesterday. They stood there and barely said a word yesterday.

Hibernian Verse
27-12-2018, 02:25 PM
Why did Rangers fans have a Lee Rigby flag in a football stadium? Hibs fans are brilliant and don’t sing songs about murdering Catholic women and children like your beloved Loyalist buddies. Think you were in the wrong end or a troll.That's not the point.

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Canon Hannan
27-12-2018, 02:26 PM
It was quite well natured yesterday. However I had an issue with a number of our own fans never mind huns.

The young team made up of 20 or so bams (not the singing section guys we like them) were near me and they were a nightmare. None of them could see straight, back and forth to the toilet doing whatever drug they had on them and doing slit throat and IRA gestures to the Rangers fans with the flag supporting Lee Rigby.

They will all be 00s kids, I didn't have the chance to ask them if they knew what they were doing, who Lee Rigby was murdered by and if they supported terrorism on British streets

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Why did Rangers fans have a Lee Rigby flag in a football stadium? Hibs fans are brilliant and don’t sing songs about murdering Catholic women and children like your beloved Loyalist buddies. Think you were in the wrong end or a troll.

The point being we have a tiny problem. They have a horrendous problem.

Hermit Crab
27-12-2018, 02:29 PM
Why did Rangers fans have a Lee Rigby flag in a football stadium? Hibs fans are brilliant and don’t sing songs about murdering Catholic women and children like your beloved Loyalist buddies. Think you were in the wrong end or a troll.

The point being we have a tiny problem. They have a horrendous problem.


No they just sing about a widow being lonely and how she's got a sex toy in her drawer. What about Stokeys Da being in the RA?

McD
27-12-2018, 02:33 PM
Why did Rangers fans have a Lee Rigby flag in a football stadium? Hibs fans are brilliant and don’t sing songs about murdering Catholic women and children like your beloved Loyalist buddies. Think you were in the wrong end or a troll.

The point being we have a tiny problem. They have a horrendous problem.


Whataboutery and deflection


rangers having a problem does not preclude Hibs or Hibs fans calling out and challenging OUR problems

Canon Hannan
27-12-2018, 02:33 PM
No they just sing about a widow being lonely and how she's got a sex toy in her drawer. What about Stokeys Da being in the RA?

Think he is.
What’s your point 😁

The point I was raising is the above poster accusing Hibs fans of supporting terrorism in British streets by having a go at a Lee Rigby flag! What a stupid post!

Hibernian Verse
27-12-2018, 02:34 PM
Think he is.
What’s your point [emoji16]Also, loyalist buddies? Come on mate.

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penihibs
27-12-2018, 02:36 PM
I also got off at Ibrox and approached the fortifications, however unlike for you, the police opened it up to let me through, so not very consistent.

Let us through no problems.

Hermit Crab
27-12-2018, 02:37 PM
Think he is.
What’s your point 😁


You've lost the moral high ground the moment you belt out these songs. They have a problem, we have a problem. Simple as.

Diclonius
27-12-2018, 02:37 PM
No they just sing about a widow being lonely and how she's got a sex toy in her drawer. What about Stokeys Da being in the RA?

Mate, it's only bad when the other teams do it. When it's us it's different for some reason.

Hermit Crab
27-12-2018, 02:40 PM
Mate, it's only bad when the other teams do it. When it's us it's different for some reason.


Ah well that settles it then, Rangers must get done for signing their 5hite but because we're Hibs and our fans are brilliant then its ok. Thats tartan army attitude that. Can do no wrong.

Canon Hannan
27-12-2018, 02:46 PM
You've lost the moral high ground the moment you belt out these songs. They have a problem, we have a problem. Simple as.

We don’t have a problem. A tiny number if any. Tens of thousands at Ibrox. It’s not even a comparison.

Hermit Crab
27-12-2018, 02:54 PM
We don’t have a problem. A tiny number if any. Tens of thousands at Ibrox. It’s not even a comparison.


Which its still a problem.

Aberdeen away was by far the worst I've ever heard from Hibs fans. Pro IRA songs, Racist abuse aimed at opposing fans, wishing death on certain players, A song about Leveins heart condition. Embarrassing.

The Harp
27-12-2018, 03:00 PM
You've lost the moral high ground the moment you belt out these songs. They have a problem, we have a problem. Simple as.

Are you really equating a few young Hibs guys singing songs most of us would rather they didn't,
to countless thousands of rangers fans belting out anti Irish, anti Catholic ditties week in, week out?

JXM73
27-12-2018, 03:01 PM
Which its still a problem.

Aberdeen away was by far the worst I've ever heard from Hibs fans. Pro IRA songs, Racist abuse aimed at opposing fans, wishing death on certain players, A song about Leveins heart condition. Embarrassing.

if you're soooo offended why not report them to either police or the club? you got phone film them? they must be on the club database... or do you just prefer the mock outrage and come on here to spout - this is not just directed at you, anyone offended at football has the means to report individuals etc - stick n stones etc...

McD
27-12-2018, 03:09 PM
You've lost the moral high ground the moment you belt out these songs. They have a problem, we have a problem. Simple as.


:agree: Agree

WhileTheChief..
27-12-2018, 03:14 PM
if you're soooo offended why not report them to either police or the club? you got phone film them? they must be on the club database... or do you just prefer the mock outrage and come on here to spout - this is not just directed at you, anyone offended at football has the means to report individuals etc - stick n stones etc...

Sticks and stones applies to Hibs fans but not Rangers??

You seem to be the one that wants everyone to film stuff and send it to the police.

It used to be that you’d get called a grass for running to the cops. Now everyone advocates it at every opportunity. When did that happen?!

Hermit Crab
27-12-2018, 03:16 PM
if you're soooo offended why not report them to either police or the club? you got phone film them? they must be on the club database... or do you just prefer the mock outrage and come on here to spout - this is not just directed at you, anyone offended at football has the means to report individuals etc - stick n stones etc...


Yeah, that won't be happening.

GreenCastle
27-12-2018, 03:19 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=guehkgYlxwc

This shows the fans exiting yesterday.

Last season when I went to Celtic park they just let both fans out at same time :confused: Celtic won that game 1-0 - not sure if it's different if Hibs beat Celtic ?

Another video of the huns signing about Leigh Griffiths not playing - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-j5phmTdbzQ

Silky
27-12-2018, 03:27 PM
Their get you into jail free card , Breach of the Peace
Kept in overnight and let out at 6am or so my mate told me

Hmm, seems a dodgy usage of breach of the peace laws. Being let out at 6am without charge speaks volumes. If all you are doing is reporting sectarian abuse to a copper and you are removed, I think there would be a counter case there. I'd be straight on to a lawyer and arguing that the removal was unlawful and breached Human Rights ( you have a right to enjoy the football!).

Kojock
27-12-2018, 03:32 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=guehkgYlxwc


Another video of the huns signing about Leigh Griffiths not playing - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-j5phmTdbzQ

Said at the game, imagine the Hun hordes reaction if we replaced the words Leigh Griffiths with Fernando Ricksen.

ben johnson
27-12-2018, 03:34 PM
Hmm, seems a dodgy usage of breach of the peace laws. Being let out at 6am without charge speaks volumes. If all you are doing is reporting sectarian abuse to a copper and you are removed, I think there would be a counter case there. I'd be straight on to a lawyer and arguing that the removal was unlawful and breached Human Rights ( you have a right to enjoy the football!).

Forgot to add the very high probability of a kicking to go along with missing the game.
Just a different time when they were ( or may still be ) untouchable

SChibs
27-12-2018, 03:35 PM
Hmm, seems a dodgy usage of breach of the peace laws. Being let out at 6am without charge speaks volumes. If all you are doing is reporting sectarian abuse to a copper and you are removed, I think there would be a counter case there. I'd be straight on to a lawyer and arguing that the removal was unlawful and breached Human Rights ( you have a right to enjoy the football!).

If you are drunk then they'll use that excuse to throw you out. Technically it is against the rules to be drunk inside a football stadium. Obviously if you arrested for it but aren't actually drunk you have a case.

tamig
27-12-2018, 03:47 PM
Aye just bury your head in the sand, back to the 1970s with you.. sectarianism or racism has no place in todays society. The coppers attitude should have been filmed and reported if it even happened.

Exactly. What a thoroughly ignorant attittude. Sectarian abuse is a crime. If someone complains to the police about it, they certainly shouldn’t be getting threatened with getting chucked out the ground. Wtf that has to do with the poster’s hashtag I have absolutely no idea.

Hibernian Verse
27-12-2018, 03:58 PM
Think he is.
What’s your point [emoji16]

The point I was raising is the above poster accusing Hibs fans of supporting terrorism in British streets by having a go at a Lee Rigby flag! What a stupid post!

I think you've missed my point completely. My point was they have no idea what they're doing at all, and that's the next generation. Of course they're not supporting that, because they probably have zero real knowledge or social awareness of the subject.

I can't believe me having a go at a group of fannies has led to your ridiculous whataboutery. We can't do anything about what Rangers fans sing, I think that's pretty obvious now, but we can and should be able to influence young kids (or adults in the loosest sense) in our support.

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WhileTheChief..
27-12-2018, 04:44 PM
Exactly. What a thoroughly ignorant attittude. Sectarian abuse is a crime. If someone complains to the police about it, they certainly shouldn’t be getting threatened with getting chucked out the ground. Wtf that has to do with the poster’s hashtag I have absolutely no idea.

Jeez, again, the post I was quoting mentioned nothing about sectarianism or racism.

The next guy, and you, have jumped to that conclusion.

Just Alf
27-12-2018, 05:11 PM
Jeez, again, the post I was quoting mentioned nothing about sectarianism or racism.

The next guy, and you, have jumped to that conclusion.Sorry WTF, I read your post the same way....apologies for that.

I guess what they're trying to say is if we have some folks being "prats" and another team has folk being 'prats' then we both have a prat problem, theirs may be bigger but we both have the problem.

My worry is if we go down the line of the Yams and say, "Ach it's only a few", then a couple years later we'll be in the same place as them looking at banning whole sections (well, section N.... 'eanderthal) because those of us living in the 21st century have stood aside and let it back in... And the reality is it was us, the fans, that helped get rid of' twatishness' in the 1st place.



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tamig
27-12-2018, 05:26 PM
You're lucky, my brother was also sitting right next to the segregation and complained to an officer about some of the things he could hear them shouting at our fans and was told he would be chucked out if he said any more.

Just for clarity SDG, was sectarian abuse one of the things your brother was complaining about? If not,I owe an apology to WhileTheChief for jumping to the wrong conclusion.

WhileTheChief..
27-12-2018, 05:30 PM
No apology necessary, it’s cool. :aok:

tamig
27-12-2018, 05:38 PM
No apology necessary, it’s cool. :aok:

No worries bud. I went to football at the back end of the 70s and enjoyed the times. However, sectarianism is something I’ve never had any time for and it’s certainly not something that is acceptable on any level today. I remember being at Ibrox about ten years ago and a teenage girl in the seat in front of me got hit by something thrown by the hun. She stood up to complain to a policeman and he came across to her pointing aggessively in her face telling her to sit down and shut up or she’d be thrown out. I clocked his number and reported it to one of the chief inspectors at the end of the game. Never heard another peep though. Been going on for years.

Sir David Gray
27-12-2018, 05:55 PM
Just for clarity SDG, was sectarian abuse one of the things your brother was complaining about? If not,I owe an apology to WhileTheChief for jumping to the wrong conclusion.

The Rangers fans on the other side of the segregation had been shouting all sorts at him and other Hibs fans in that area for a while, calling them fenian ******** etc and this is what he pointed out to the officer when he was threatened with ejection.

Nakedmanoncrack
27-12-2018, 06:44 PM
Why did Rangers fans have a Lee Rigby flag in a football stadium? Hibs fans are brilliant and don’t sing songs about murdering Catholic women and children like your beloved Loyalist buddies. Think you were in the wrong end or a troll.

The point being we have a tiny problem. They have a horrendous problem.

It must be a source of some consolation to the Rigby family that his name is now used by the Rangers Supporters Club (not that he had any interest in Scottish football as far as I know) who bear his name.

These upstanding individuals have so loyally produced a flag in his name, the flag of the 6 counties (which as far as I'm aware Lee had no affiliation with), bearing the words of a song in honour of the UVF (again, as far as I know he had no UVF affiliation), which can be brought along the Govan stand to hang over the Hibs support to goad. What a tribute, and act of remembrance.

Carheenlea
27-12-2018, 09:09 PM
It must be a source of some consolation to the Rigby family that his name is now used by the Rangers Supporters Club (not that he had any interest in Scottish football as far as I know) who bear his name.

These upstanding individuals have so loyally produced a flag in his name, the flag of the 6 counties (which as far as I'm aware Lee had no affiliation with), bearing the words of a song in honour of the UVF (again, as far as I know he had no UVF affiliation), which can be brought along the Govan stand to hang over the Hibs support to goad. What a tribute, and act of remembrance.

Beyond parody :hilarious

http://i68.tinypic.com/kbvndi.jpg

CropleyWasGod
27-12-2018, 09:17 PM
Beyond parody :hilarious

http://i68.tinypic.com/kbvndi.jpgWhat's with the InterCity logo?

Is that an homage to Jimmy Saville?

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Hermit Crab
27-12-2018, 09:24 PM
What's with the InterCity logo?

Is that an homage to Jimmy Saville?

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Thats the British Rail logo, still used today as a sign to identify stations.

CropleyWasGod
27-12-2018, 09:48 PM
Thats the British Rail logo, still used today as a sign to identify stations.The joke failed, but the question remains.

Why?

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Nakedmanoncrack
27-12-2018, 10:10 PM
Beyond parody :hilarious

http://i68.tinypic.com/kbvndi.jpg

Utter shameless clowns, but they looked rather pleased with themselves when they untied it after 15 mins of gesturing to return to their seats (clearly nowhere near where they chose to briefly fly the flag in honour of their hero) in time for kick-off.

Killiehibbie
27-12-2018, 10:27 PM
The joke failed, but the question remains.

Why?

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CropleyWasGod
27-12-2018, 10:35 PM
Inter City Firm. I thought you got it the first time.[emoji16]

Maybe it's an age thing.

The age of the train.....

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One Day
28-12-2018, 08:20 AM
[QUOTE=tamig;5643194]Exactly. What a thoroughly ignorant attittude. Sectarian abuse is a crime. If someone complains to the police about it, they certainly shouldn’t be getting threatened with getting chucked out the ground. Wtf that has to do with the poster’s hashtag I have absolutely no idea.[/QUOTE

Always the same there. I was at Ibrox years ago sitting near the front. After an hour of the usual abuse and having stuff thrown at us a guy stood up and asked a policeman what they were going to do about it. The policeman's reply was " sit down ya fenian ******* or you'll be thrown out. I rest my case

Jones28
28-12-2018, 10:46 AM
Beyond parody :hilarious

http://i68.tinypic.com/kbvndi.jpg

Wow. That's awful in so many ways

Keith_M
28-12-2018, 10:57 AM
Wow. That's awful in so many ways


Using Rigby's name seems like nothing more than a cheap opportunity for Islamophobia, i.e. all Muslims are terrorists.

Apparently these people are protecting the United Kingdom from Taigs, Muslims and the SNP.

What a noble bunch.

WhileTheChief..
28-12-2018, 11:26 AM
^^Makes you wonder how the SNP did so well at the last elections.

Glasgow should really be a Tory stronghold with so many loyalists around. Never really understood that one.

EH75
28-12-2018, 12:41 PM
I believe the Rigby family have repeatedly asked for his name not to be used in such a manner, not that these individuals take any notice...

EH75
28-12-2018, 12:42 PM
^^Makes you wonder how the SNP did so well at the last elections.

Glasgow should really be a Tory stronghold with so many loyalists around. Never really understood that one.

I would be surprised if most of them could find their way to the local polling station...

Lancs Harp
28-12-2018, 12:47 PM
Some Celtic fans come out with some distasteful song about the poor lad, some Rangers fans then have to take the polar opposite view and turn him into some sort of Loyalist cult hero. Unbelievable to most normal thinking people but there you go, the OF (its not all Celtic and Rangers fans I know, we'll all know decent people who support either).

I would imagine the lads family could do without the nonsense.

HibeeHibernian4
28-12-2018, 08:41 PM
I recognised a few who were at Aberdeen away when they were giving it big licks because there was a fence between them and the Aberdeen fans, all sorts of abuse howled out from them. Yesterday, one of the main culprits I seen at Aberdeen was as quiet as a mouse, possibly because there was no fence between them and the Huns, looked like they didn't fancy it yesterday. They stood there and barely said a word yesterday.

Pretty sure some of them feature in this video. :rolleyes:

https://twitter.com/CalumWright2/status/1061020620828356608

Jones28
28-12-2018, 08:56 PM
Pretty sure some of them feature in this video. :rolleyes:

https://twitter.com/CalumWright2/status/1061020620828356608

****ing roasters man