Hibernian v Livingston

[bodhibs]

Come on Jamie Mac

[bringbackbenny]

Great finish from our colossus!

[cabbageandribs1875]

Daryl Horgan with another assist. Heard on here he’s pure pish as well.




followed by a horrendous wasted pass 2 mins later :)

[Keith_M]

Everybody just got carried away because we beat a very poor Celtc last week (including myself). As well as we played, sadly it does seem to be the exception for this side.

We're capable of playing the odd decent game but we're still not a particularly great team, and are definitely lacking in depth.

I just hope we really do make some decent signings in January, and get rid of the wasters.

[Lago]

Spawny for us like.
Who cares

[Beefster]

Everybody just got carried away because we beat a very poor Celtc last week (including myself).

Not everybody.

[hibsbollah]

Boyle genius.
Livvy miss a sitter.

17046.

[Pretty Boy]

Absolute sitter from Livi. Shot over the bar from inside the 6 yard box with no one near him.

[Biggie]

Where was the logic in making six changes for one of the form teams in the league?

Probably resting players thinking the squad guys will pump livi, at the same time keeping others fresh for the Huns and yams

[CMac1988]

Boyle nearly scored a belter after running past a few players.

First time he's done that for 2 months. Come on Hibs.

[cabbageandribs1875]

Everybody just got carried away because we beat a very poor Celtc last week (including myself). As well as we played, sadly it does seem to be the exception for this side.

We're capable of playing the odd decent game but we're still not a particularly great team, and are definitely lacking in depth.

I just hope we really do make some decent signings in January, and get rid of the wasters.


ermmm i didn't :greengrin i have too much experience of follow-up performances by hibs teams over the years after wins against the old firm

[rcarter1]

Mon Hibs!!!! Would be a great 3 points to nab..

[SHODAN]

Mitchell sent off for Hearts. Misses the derby?

[cabbageandribs1875]

ryan in a whole lot of pain with his injury

[bringbackbenny]

Mitchell sent off for Hearts. Misses the derby?

Hope not, he's murder

[bodhibs]

ryan in a whole lot of pain with his injury

Not good

[Hibs90]

Porteous probably keeping Lennon in a job with his performances and goals.

[Busy Bear]

Mon Hibs!!!! Would be a great 3 points to nab..

Think that would jump us up to 5th above Hertz on GD?

[Northernhibee]

ryan in a whole lot of pain with his injury

Our best player and biggest goal scoring threat. Disaster.

[ArmadaleHibs]

But we’re not losing?

I think you will find we were at the time of writing. Never said we lost though did I

[K-Zazu]

Porteous suspensed for 2 games because of 5 bookings?

[cabbageandribs1875]

boyle hits it straight at the keeper unfortunately

[Hibs90]

What is it with Hibs and throw ins?????????????????

[Keith_M]

So we move above St Johnstone on goal difference, at least until tomorrow.

[cabbageandribs1875]

Neil Lennon has asked for 3 hours added time

[Joe6-2]

Neil Lennon has asked for 3 hours added time

I'd rather he didn't

[Keith_M]

My prediction of 10 points from December's games is looking to be about right.

[heretoday]

What is it with Hibs and throw ins?????????????????

Most teams are the same, I reckon.

[Hibs90]

My prediction of 10 points from December's games is looking to be about right.

http://cdn-webimages.wimages.net/0548da08c5abb12305b6f67091eafd692f5dc1-v5-wm.jpg?v=0

[Pretty Boy]

Neil Lennon has asked for 3 hours added time

Please God no. I'm losing the will to live as it is.

[BOB MARLEYS DUG]

Drawing at home to Livi is unacceptable under any circumstances.

[Keith_M]

http://cdn-webimages.wimages.net/0548da08c5abb12305b6f67091eafd692f5dc1-v5-wm.jpg?v=0


Calm doon, not quite there yet, still have to get one more point from the next two games.

:greengrin

[cabbageandribs1875]

so, 7 points at home to


st johnstone
Dundee
st mirren
sellick
sevco
Livingston



p@sh :agree:

[Hibs90]

11 points from last 11 games.

Mediocre guff.

[SHODAN]

http://cdn-webimages.wimages.net/0548da08c5abb12305b6f67091eafd692f5dc1-v5-wm.jpg?v=0

:tee hee:

[CMac1988]

So top Marks to Ryan and Efe. Bogdan done well too along with the rest of the defence being not too bad. Everywhere else though, sorely lacking. Very inblanced.

[cabbageandribs1875]

I'd rather he didn't


Please God no. I'm losing the will to live as it is.



:greengrin

[Keith_M]

Unbeaten in the last four games


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[Liam6270]

How did Lionel Maclaren play when he came on?

[Silky]

How did Lionel Maclaren playvwhen he came on?

Would have been better with Lionel Blair.

[Beefster]

Only two points behind Hearts, who were appointed World Champions back in October.

[Keith_M]

A point nearer Hearts


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[cabbageandribs1875]

Would have been better with Lionel Blair.



or cherie blair

[supermcginn]

Recruitment has been awful! So disappointing

[Greenworld]

We are a team performing on the same level as St johnstone and livingston now we have a far superior budget crowds they can only dream off ..
So do we blame the players
The management
Or the board

Or the fact we are a couple of wins from a decent league position make it ok .


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[Wheat Hound]

Efe and Ryan aside we are mediocre at best. Really uninspiring Hibs. Hope for some change in jan

[Keith_M]

Moved up to seventh place.


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[SHODAN]

How did Lionel Maclaren play when he came on?

Got one half chance, similar to the one he scored v the Hertz last season, pretty tame.

[Callum_62]

take a point but we are seriously missing some guile

It obvious our squad is too thin added with the ridiculous amount of injuries this was always gonna be a tricky game

Seeing the other results today too, its another big chance to gain some ground lost

We started with 4 academy graduates today, when really only 1 possibly was quoted at the start of the year

This shows how much down to the bare bones we are

[Allant1981]

take a point but we are seriously missing some guile

It obvious our squad is too thin added with the ridiculous amount of injuries this was always gonna be a tricky game

Doesn't help with the stupid team selection, there was no need for that team today

[heretoday]

Come on Lenny. Signings required.

[cabbageandribs1875]

We are a team performing on the same level as St johnstone and livingston now we have a far superior budget crowds they can only dream off ..
So do we blame the players
The management
Or the board

Or the fact we are a couple of wins from a decent league position make it ok .


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can only be the first two, the board provide a good amount of money and can't control the footballing side of things

[Keith_M]

Doesn't help with the stupid team selection, there was no need for that team today


Apparently we were saving our better players for the bigger challenge of Der Hun and Mini Hun.

[Hibs90]

take a point but we are seriously missing some guile

It obvious our squad is too thin added with the ridiculous amount of injuries this was always gonna be a tricky game

Accepting mediocrity nevermind the circumstances is not going to end well.

[H18S NX]

Not impressed at all,shocking penalty from Kamberi,Efe was the standout.

[Allant1981]

Apparently we were saving our better players for the bigger challenge of Der Hun and Mini Hun.

Crazy stuff from Lennon, we needed a bit of stability and got it the last few games and then buggers it up today

[Callum_62]

Doesn't help with the stupid team selection, there was no need for that team today

what team should have played then?

we have something like 8 games in a month - we were always going to have to change it

[Biggie]

A point nearer Hearts


:flag:

Should have gone above them the day......that would have pissed them off big time....c'est la vie

[HibeeDaz6270]

We need to get a settled team and a bit of consistency. It baffles me why we have not tried to build on a settled team. 1 change is okay but not about 5.

It was a poor decision from Lennon to make so many changes today & it seemed some players were " rested "

We are not good enough to be resting players and Livi at home is worth the same amount of points as Rangers away, so its cost us today.

It absolute defeats the purpose of resting some of your better players if you can not beat Livi at home.

Poor from Lennon and its a massive ask to come away from Ibrox with 3 points.

[Beefster]

Crazy stuff from Lennon, we needed a bit of stability and got it the last few games and then buggers it up today

This is our third game in six days. You can’t keep using the same players when you have a month like ours.

[Allant1981]

what team should have played then?

we have something like 8 games in a month - we were always going to have to change it

As much as the same team as possible from the last few games, they are professional sportsmen, teams in England play 2 games per week every single week and players manage so why can't ours, we have been playing well with Ambrose and Porteous as the CH pairing and then today McGregor is put in, makes no sense

[Hibs90]

what team should have played then?

we have something like 8 games in a month - we were always going to have to change it

So does everyone else have 8/9 games this month. Not an excuse, they are paid thousands and should be as fit as possible.

[Silky]

Doesn't help with the stupid team selection, there was no need for that team today

That's a hard one. On one level I agree. On another, I think I would have been raging if another couple of our "better" players had got injured and missed the next 2 games and i'd have no doubt then criticised Lennon for not making changes!! We should have had enough today to beat Livi.

[Since90+2]

Not impressed at all,shocking penalty from Kamberi,Efe was the standout.

Efe is our best player by an absolute mile and also ridiculously probably our biggest attacking threat.

[Hibs90]

This is our third game in six days. You can’t keep using the same players when you have a month like ours.

Every other team is playing 7/8/9 games.

[hhibs]

What is it with Hibs and throw ins?????????????????

Basic problem for many years ,what the **** do our coaching team actually do?

Get the basics right or do they think they are Billy bigbaws and above that ?

[Callum_62]

Accepting mediocrity nevermind the circumstances is not going to end well.

its realistic

how many folk are out injured or just back in today after a long lay off

we will never have a squad to cope with that, nevermind having 8 games in a month to contend with

We needed legs today - we had that but lacked some genuine guile and quality

Mind, Kamberi scores the pen mightve been different scoreline

[Allant1981]

This is our third game in six days. You can’t keep using the same players when you have a month like ours.

Of course you can, Kamberi came on at half time so should have started

[Beefster]

Every other team is playing 7/8/9 games.

Are you claiming that they’re all playing the same team in every game?

[Allant1981]

Every other team is playing 7/8/9 games.

But our poor players can't play 3 times in a week

[Northernhibee]

Better get the Tate & Lyle in before the industrial scale sugarcoating on here.

[hhibs]

its realistic

how many folk are out injured or just back in today after a long lay off

we will never have a squad to cope with that, nevermind having 8 games in a month to contend with

We needed legs today - we had that but lacked some genuine guile and quality

Mind, Kamberi scores the pen mightve been different scoreline


One look at Kamberi told you he was never going to score,just horrible.

[Beefster]

Of course you can, Kamberi came on at half time so should have started

Go on then, explain that logic.

[Callum_62]

So does everyone else have 8/9 games this month. Not an excuse, they are paid thousands and should be as fit as possible.

So they arnt fit?

Better tell Pep or Jurgen too, as if you take part in fantasy football you will know they rest even they biggest stars too due to the amount of games they end up playing

[Allant1981]

Go on then, explain that logic.
If he is fit enough to be on the bench or come on halfway through the game he is fit enough to start, no really rocket science

[Hibs90]

Are you claiming that they’re all playing the same team in every game?

No I didn't say that. Look at Livi for example, more or less same team each time. They can manage it. If I could be arsed, I'd go and get the figures but thankfully for me the pub beckons.

https://i.gyazo.com/72419d519a59c5e5e307caf9fd7eea1a.png

This excuse of too many games is rubbish. Every single team is in a similar boat with regards to games played and they can manage.

[Callum_62]

One look at Kamberi told you he was never going to score,just horrible.

I thought the same actually when I seen him before the pen

[Beefster]

If he is fit enough to be on the bench or come on halfway through the game he is fit enough to start, no really rocket science

It’s not even logic tbh.

[JeMeSouviens]

This is our third game in six days. You can’t keep using the same players when you have a month like ours.

Agreed (but it’s 7 days, count them!)

[hhibs]

Efe is our best player by an absolute mile and also ridiculously probably our biggest attacking threat.

Very true,only time we looked dangerous was when he strode forward,immense !

[Allant1981]

It’s not even logic tbh.

You can make all the excuses you want but if they can't play 3 games in a week for a couple of weeks a year then they need to have a serious look at themselves

[Brightside]

Playing a back 3 of right sided defenders was mental. We were so lopsided. We also can’t use Milligan as an out ball as he moves slower than a drunk snail. Slivka the only one with pass marks today.

[Allant1981]

Playing a back 3 of right sided defenders was mental. We were so lopsided. We also can’t use Milligan as an out ball as he moves slower than a drunk snail. Slivka the only one with pass marks today.

You seriously thought Slivka was the only one who played well when Ambrose was the best player on the park again

[Beefster]

No I didn't say that. Look at Livi for example, more or less same team each time. They can manage it. If I could be arsed, I'd go and get the figures

That’s kind of my point. You don’t really know. I can’t be arsed either but I’d wager that when/if they played 3 games in 6 days, they made 3+ changes per game.

[Callum_62]

You can make all the excuses you want but if they can't play 3 games in a week for a couple of weeks a year then they need to have a serious look at themselves

Your talking absolute nonsense - every single club rotates there squad when they have that many games

Again, city drop Aguero, Spurs drop Kane

Do they need to have a look at themselves?

[SChibs]

Your talking absolute nonsense - every single club rotates there squad when they have that many games

Again, city drop Aguero, Spurs drop Kane

Do they need to have a look at themselves?

This is hibs.net, don't let a good point like your own get in the way of someone moaning about the team.

[Callum_62]

This is hibs.net, don't let a good point like your own get in the way about someone moaning about the team.

Nursery.net :greengrin

[Bostonhibby]

F****** booooooo

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[Beefster]

You can make all the excuses you want but if they can't play 3 games in a week for a couple of weeks a year then they need to have a serious look at themselves

You’d be better directing your ire at your fellow sports scientists (and the coaching staff). I’d imagine that most footballers would happily play three games a week, if they were allowed.

[Northernhibee]

This is hibs.net, don't let a good point like your own get in the way about someone moaning about the team.

No, you’re right, we’ve been brilliant recently.

Deflect, deflect, deflect.

[Allant1981]

Your talking absolute nonsense - every single club rotates there squad when they have that many games

Again, city drop Aguero, Spurs drop Kane

Do they need to have a look at themselves?

We don't have the quality to do that though do we, drop Kamberi and bring in Allan, the laddie might have potential but we need to start winning games, why play McGregor when Ambrose and Porteous have played well as a partnership, Horgan has been playing well but dropped, crazy from lennon

[Stuart93]

Playing a back 3 of right sided defenders was mental. We were so lopsided. We also can’t use Milligan as an out ball as he moves slower than a drunk snail. Slivka the only one with pass marks today.

Ambrose and porteous

[SChibs]

No, you’re right, we’ve been brilliant recently.

Deflect, deflect, deflect.

Can you quote the post where I said we've been brilliant recently please. Obviously I need to jog my memory

[Hibs90]

Aberdeen have made 1 change to the starting XI in the last 4 games, 4 games which they have all won.

[BegbieHSC]

I thought Slivka, Porteous, Ambrose and Horgan were decent, in an otherwise poor game.

[Brightside]

You seriously thought Slivka was the only one who played well when Ambrose was the best player on the park again

I don’t think our defence were great today. He was the best of the 3.

[Northernhibee]

Can you quote the post where I said we've been brilliant recently please. Obviously I need to jog my memory

Well can we stick on the topic of the team that was put out without it turning to whataboutery or bickering over the tiniest point instead of the big picture?

We have the team to be excellent- the Celtic game showed that. We are, however, ****ing awful. He rants and raves, gestures to opposition fans and if that’s good enough for you then well done. I just want us to get good results.

Two wins in ten? Eleven? Appalling.

[SChibs]

Well can we stick on the topic of the team that was put out without it turning to whataboutery or bickering over the tiniest point instead of the big picture?

We have the team to be excellent- the Celtic game showed that. We are, however, ****ing awful. He rants and raves, gestures to opposition fans and if that’s good enough for you then well done. I just want us to get good results.

Two wins in ten? Eleven? Appalling.

Whatever, you blatantly lied so that's why I was asking.

In reply to your latest post I've said nothing about Lennon on this thread never mind about him making gestures. Fwiw I think he got the team wrong today, it should have been a back 4 with Gray in for whitts imo.

I'm not sure about the rest of the team as I don't know how tired they were from the last 2 games. They must have took a lot out of the players and we no have 2 more tough games coming up.

[18Craig75]

Well can we stick on the topic of the team that was put out without it turning to whataboutery or bickering over the tiniest point instead of the big picture?

We have the team to be excellent- the Celtic game showed that. We are, however, ****ing awful. He rants and raves, gestures to opposition fans and if that’s good enough for you then well done. I just want us to get good results.

Two wins in ten? Eleven? Appalling.

We get it, you hate Lennon. You don’t need to keep telling us over and over after every defeat. You’d be as well just putting it in your Signature.


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[Tyler Durden]

This is our third game in six days. You can’t keep using the same players when you have a month like ours.

Well today, of players who have played most recent games, Lennon has successfully rested Lewis Stevenson and Whittaker.

If he thought that we could win that game without Kamberi, he changed his mind pretty quickly.

There was no need to split up the Ambrose/Porteous partnership and there was no need to bench Kamberi. Both decisions back fired.

[Northernhibee]

We get it, you hate Lennon. You don’t need to keep telling us over and over after every defeat. You’d be as well just putting it in your Signature.


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More deflection.

[Hiber-nation]

Playing a back 3 of right sided defenders was mental. We were so lopsided. We also can’t use Milligan as an out ball as he moves slower than a drunk snail. Slivka the only one with pass marks today.

Agree with all of that except that Ambrose was our best player by the length of Easter Road.

3 CBs without Hanlon is no good.

[J-C]

Pish toothless performance, getting tired watching players either not good enough or only turning up for big games.

[hhibs]

More deflection.

Think Northernbibbie may have a point here,something sure is not right.

[Beefster]

If he thought that we could win that game without Kamberi, he changed his mind pretty quickly.

There was no need to split up the Ambrose/Porteous partnership and there was no need to bench Kamberi. Both decisions back fired.

You’re right, of course. With the benefit of hindsight.

[wookie70]

This is our third game in six days. You can’t keep using the same players when you have a month like ours.

It would be interesting to see what Livi, Killi or St Johnstone do in these situations. Do they rest players and then completely change the shape of the team bringing in players that have hardly kicked a ball. Our players, Celtc game excepted, appear to play around half throttle. There was a tiny bit of endeavour and urgency when we scored today but for the most part this season I am watching Hibs play training games. Efe and Porteous are about the only two who have regularly played at a good level and also shown that will to win.
Did anyone think Kamberi was going to score that penalty. He looked reluctant at best to take it and it no point looked confident.

Livi are everything we are not. Organised, determined, streetwise and together. They might lack a bit of quality but they use what they have very well and have a game plan. We were once again disjointed and poorly motivated bunch of strangers.

If Lennon can take the credit for the great performance against Celtc then he also has to take criticism for changing the team and formation today and putting out 11 players, half of whom, didn't look particularly interested.

[B.H.F.C]

Lewis Allan playing demonstrates how badly MacLaren has done and how bad our recruitment was. I think he is out of his depth. Not trying to have a go at him as he’s doing his best. He shouldn’t be there though.

Unless we have a very, very good transfer window the season is a write off IMO.

[wookie70]

That’s kind of my point. You don’t really know. I can’t be arsed either but I’d wager that when/if they played 3 games in 6 days, they made 3+ changes per game.

I looked at the Livi team for their last 4 games which included a 3 in 6 day spell. Goalkeeper, back three the same each game. Same shape each game and very few changes. The game they made most changes against Aberdeen away was the one they conceded most goals and the only game they lost. Not very scientific but they have a system that works for them and seem to replace players when they have to and do it in a square peg for a square hole basis.

Looking back on Killi they have hardly made a change to their team and only changed shape against Celtc away. St Johnstone barring an odd player have played the same 11 for the past 5 games with only a midfield slot changed in and out. Same defense, same formation and same GK and forwards.

[Tyler Durden]

You’re right, of course. With the benefit of hindsight.

I actually said similar things on page 1 at about 2.15 😉

It is easy after the game but Lennon is getting too many of these decisions wrong. Hopefully he can sort it in January but he’ll need to move on some of his own signings for starters.

[hibsbollah]

what team should have played then?

we have something like 8 games in a month - we were always going to have to change it

:agree: nothing wrong with the team selection.

[FitbaFolkKen]

:agree: nothing wrong with the team selection.

Just watching it back on Alba and we had good chances for Boyle, Shaw * 2 and McGregor between the 20-25 minute mark. Boyle set free by Hyndman and then Slivka. Needed to fire one of these away.


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