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RossScott1991
06-12-2018, 07:22 AM
Not saying Bogdan has been horrendous, and goalkeeper position is definitely the least of our worries at the moment in the team. However I'd like to see Marciano given a run of games now. Who knows maybe in certain games he would be able to pull off some of the saves he had no right to get to last season and it might just inspire the rest of his team a little bit.

Bogdan has pulled off some great saves at times this season and as I say it is least of our concerns within the team with defence, midfield and forwards needing prioritised.

From what I have seen from Bogdan and Marciano, I rate Rocky just that little bit more. IMO, just personal preference.

Nevi_SOL
06-12-2018, 07:23 AM
I agree

FifeHibs
06-12-2018, 07:26 AM
I'd like to see Rocky given a run as he is the long term option.

In my opinion due to wages it's unlikely Bogdan will return

Both are good goal keepers though

calumhibee1
06-12-2018, 07:33 AM
Think there’s very little between them. Probably slightly prefer Rocky due to his ability to pull off the spectacular but Bogdan hasn’t done anything to merit being dropped IMO.

lyonhibs
06-12-2018, 07:40 AM
The gloves are Bogdan's until he has a horror show IMO

mcfly
06-12-2018, 07:54 AM
There are plenty others who need dropped before bogdan.

I think he’s been one of our best and most reliable players this season.

It’s the midfield and lack of creativity that’s our problem.

Midfield last season was put strength now it’s our weakness.

They really need to up their game or December will be a long month.

Little bit disappointed the manager won’t do the interviews recently as well. On a bad run and he sends out the asst.

BILLYHIBS
06-12-2018, 08:01 AM
Just a new safe goalkeeper that doesn’t have howlers in his locker please

Heckys Wheel
06-12-2018, 08:14 AM
Dont care what anyone says, goalkeepers aren’t at fault when they’re lobbed from that distance. His position was fine, it was just a great strike.

Couldn’t see what happened for the second but not coming for s cross is something you could say about Marciano as well.

Making changes for the sake of making changes doesn’t help. We’ve done enough of that recently already.

Pretty Boy
06-12-2018, 08:15 AM
Just a new safe goalkeeper that doesn’t have howlers in his locker please

When we find one of them we can sell him for hundreds of millions of pounds. Unfortunately they don't exist.

danhibees1875
06-12-2018, 08:17 AM
I don't think Bogdan has done much wrong outside of a poor game v Asteras and a few moments at the end of the recent derby, but for me Rocky is our #1 and is capable of some outstanding saves which I don't think Bogdan has made during his spell.

SChibs
06-12-2018, 08:18 AM
Just a new safe goalkeeper that doesn’t have howlers in his locker please

Rules out moves for Dr Gea or Lloris then. Probably only leaves Oblak, Ederson or Ter Stegen but i think they are under contract at their current club.

calumhibee1
06-12-2018, 08:18 AM
Dont care what anyone says, goalkeepers aren’t at fault when they’re lobbed from that distance. His position was fine, it was just a great strike.

Couldn’t see what happened for the second but not coming for s cross is something you could say about Marciano as well.

Making changes for the sake of making changes doesn’t help. We’ve done enough of that recently already.

I initially gave him the benefit of the doubt and while I’m not saying it was a howler last night the ball actually bounced before it went in and he was still nowhere near it. Would suggest he was far too far off his line rather than just a wee bit.

If it had went in just underneath the bar and he nearly got there I’d more inclined to absolve him of all blame.

Not In The Know
06-12-2018, 08:22 AM
I initially gave him the benefit of the doubt and while I’m not saying it was a howler last night the ball actually bounced before it went in and he was still nowhere near it. Would suggest he was far too far off his line rather than just a wee bit.

If it had went in just underneath the bar and he nearly got there I’d more inclined to absolve him of all blame.

Errr! that's exactly what happened!

Dancehibs
06-12-2018, 08:23 AM
I initially gave him the benefit of the doubt and while I’m not saying it was a howler last night the ball actually bounced before it went in and he was still nowhere near it. Would suggest he was far too far off his line rather than just a wee bit.

If it had went in just underneath the bar and he nearly got there I’d more inclined to absolve him of all blame.
Fairly standard position for keeper when ball is in the other teams half

calumhibee1
06-12-2018, 08:23 AM
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Errr! that's exactly what happened!

It bounced before it went in. Fair enough it bounced into the top corner but I more meant underneath the bar without bouncing :greengrin

Like I said I’m not going to label it as a howler and I absolutely understand why goalies stand around the edge of their box to come out for any balls that run through but he must have been a good few yards further forward then he should have been.

mcfly
06-12-2018, 08:24 AM
Dear dear I think you should be looking a wee bit more at the outfield players than bashing bogdan.

Every week he has a different back 3, back 4. There’s no consustency in team selection at all.
It’s like it’s drawn out a hat on a sat morning.

I think bogdan has done great and he’s the number 1 goalie until he has s few bad games or gets injured.

In my view and most may disagree he has been the best out of summer signings.

Not impressed with Mallan, Horgan, Maclaren.

They need to step up performances starting sat which is now must win. Or we will be getting dragged into the bottom

SlickShoes
06-12-2018, 08:30 AM
I think he's been fairly solid, our problems stem from defensive mistakes by our longest standing defenders, a midfield devoid of creativity and all that results in strikers lacking confidence and becoming frustrated.

Efe is about the only player currently doing anything creative, making space and finding passes. Barely seen Boyle take the ball past someone in months.

RossScott1991
06-12-2018, 08:31 AM
Dear dear I think you should be looking a wee bit more at the outfield players than bashing bogdan.

Every week he has a different back 3, back 4. There’s no consustency in team selection at all.
It’s like it’s drawn out a hat on a sat morning.

I think bogdan has done great and he’s the number 1 goalie until he has s few bad games or gets injured.

In my view and most may disagree he has been the best out of summer signings.

Not impressed with Mallan, Horgan, Maclaren.

They need to step up performances starting sat which is now must win. Or we will be getting dragged into the bottom

Haven't bashed Bogdan. Well aware other areas of the team need work. Just a personal preference of what I've seen. Read my OP.

CRAZYHIBBY
06-12-2018, 08:31 AM
Id start marciano before bogdan

BILLYHIBS
06-12-2018, 08:32 AM
When we find one of them we can sell him for hundreds of millions of pounds. Unfortunately they don't exist.

Must be an unearthed nugget out there surely somewhere?

Perhaps even an older more experienced keeper a Budgie or an Alan MacGregor?

Goalkeepers can play until they are 40

Send the net out wider the Scandinavian markets and the lower leagues seem to remember the Molde keeper looking pretty safe over both legs

Stokesy's on fire
06-12-2018, 08:39 AM
Marciano is a quality keeper and i hope we see him back between the posts against Accies. Sorry Adam done ok but Rocky has the little bit more.

superfurryhibby
06-12-2018, 08:39 AM
Must be an unearthed nugget out there surely somewhere?

Perhaps even an older more experienced keeper a Budgie or an Alan MacGregor?

Goalkeepers can play until they are 40

Send the net out wider the Scandinavian markets and the lower leagues seem to remember the Molde keeper looking pretty safe over both legs

Budgie was well prone to a howler. A great guy and an inspirational character, but he wasn’t a brilliant keeper at Hibs.

I think we have two good goalkeepers , both of them are as good as we can expect to get.

Bigger problem fish to fry.

EH54
06-12-2018, 08:40 AM
Throwing rocky in on this bad run will do nothing but harm us more. He's not played in months so will be rusty, first mistake everyone will be wanting Bogdan back in. Lennon needs to pick a starting 11 and formation and just stick with it regardless of opposition and hope they can get him through it even if they have a couple bad performances playing the same players will help us more than what we aren't currently doing.

BILLYHIBS
06-12-2018, 09:00 AM
Budgie was well prone to a howler. A great guy and an inspirational character, but he wasn’t a brilliant keeper at Hibs.

I think we have two good goalkeepers , both of them are as good as we can expect to get.

Bigger problem fish to fry.

Agree least of our worries would stick with Bogdan until he has a disaster nothing wrong with sending the scouts out though as Bogdan is not ours and we are unlikely to be able to afford him

Not convinced by Rocky or Laidlaw either and as for the rest of the team........ :confused:

Cod Boy
06-12-2018, 09:00 AM
Not sure if 100% but seemingly Liverpool pay a huge chunk of players wages that go out on loan to clubs. If they don’t play apart from injury or suspension the other team have to cough up majority if not all there wage.

allezsauzee
06-12-2018, 09:03 AM
People forgetting that Rocky makes mistakes too then?

Brooster
06-12-2018, 09:07 AM
Bogdan is the least of our worries. He has been very solid. He is a better keeper than Marciano therefore should keep his place imo.

Springbank
06-12-2018, 09:07 AM
Id start marciano before bogdan

every time

Zazu62
06-12-2018, 09:11 AM
The defence don’t seem very confident with Bogdan, look how many goals we are conceding

Jones28
06-12-2018, 09:17 AM
Every keeper has a howler in them.

Goalkeepers at our level certainly do.

Last nights goal was a once-in-a-lifetime anomaly that should not be a reflection on how good a goalkeeper Bogdan is. He's made some great saves this season.

BILLYHIBS
06-12-2018, 09:19 AM
Every keeper has a howler in them.

Goalkeepers at our level certainly do.

Last nights goal was a once-in-a-lifetime anomaly that should not be a reflection on how good a goalkeeper Bogdan is. He's made some great saves this season.

Twice in a lifetime he scored the same goal versus Hearts two weeks ago

My_Wife_Camille
06-12-2018, 09:22 AM
Hopefully see Rocky start on Saturday

MWHIBBIES
06-12-2018, 09:25 AM
Just a new safe goalkeeper that doesn’t have howlers in his locker please

Literally does not exist. Humans make mistakes.

andybev1
06-12-2018, 09:27 AM
Dont care what anyone says, goalkeepers aren’t at fault when they’re lobbed from that distance. His position was fine, it was just a great strike.

Couldn’t see what happened for the second but not coming for s cross is something you could say about Marciano as well.

Making changes for the sake of making changes doesn’t help. We’ve done enough of that recently already.

I agree. Marciano does not command his box as well as Bogdan although I think last night he showed a lack of confidence with doing that which I hope he gets back as he has been great for us as far as it goes.

green with envy
06-12-2018, 09:27 AM
Fairly standard position for keeper when ball is in the other teams half

Indeed!

GK's are encouraged to stand around their own 18 yard line when the ball is in the oppositions half.

eastmainsmsh
06-12-2018, 10:55 AM
Hopefully see Rocky start on Saturday

Upfront lol

BILLYHIBS
06-12-2018, 11:02 AM
Literally does not exist. Humans make mistakes.

Some more than most

Then again we are HIBS not Real Madrid

J-C
06-12-2018, 11:19 AM
I thought Bogdan was at fault for both goals last night, far too far off his line for the 1st and should've cleared the ball for the 2nd, the ball was only on the 6 yd line ffs, the St Mirren keeper showed exactly how to punch a ball away, he did it 3-4 times, Bogdan let his CB's deal with that free kick instead of dealing with it himself.

MWHIBBIES
06-12-2018, 11:22 AM
Some more than most

Then again we are HIBS not Real Madrid

Real Madrid don't have perfect goalies either.

BILLYHIBS
06-12-2018, 12:15 PM
Real Madrid don't have perfect goalies either.
You know what?

What bugs me is that we have always had really good keepers throughout the years that very rarely made alarming glaring basic stupid errors until recent years that is.

Maybe I am just too old and have high expectations away above and beyond our station

I blame Zibi! 😁

Jones28
06-12-2018, 12:18 PM
Twice in a lifetime he scored the same goal versus Hearts two weeks ago

I meant that as in keepers get beat like that once.

BILLYHIBS
06-12-2018, 12:22 PM
I meant that as in keepers get beat like that once.
Will let you off

Once in a game is once too much for me 😁

You would think the Video Coach would highlight his technique as it won Sky Sports goal of the day not an earth shattering accolade but out there

Jones28
06-12-2018, 02:16 PM
Will let you off

Once in a game is once too much for me 😁

You would think the Video Coach would highlight his technique as it won Sky Sports goal of the day not an earth shattering accolade but out there

I think we're making too much of it tbh and to drop a solid keeper after something like that would be madness. Especially in a team that gets changed so often it leaves everyone guessing the team.

BILLYHIBS
06-12-2018, 02:22 PM
I think we're making too much of it tbh and to drop a solid keeper after something like that would be madness. Especially in a team that gets changed so often it leaves everyone guessing the team.
Not asking for him to be dropped only stating that he should have been made aware that the boy had it in his locker
As soon as the ball left his foot from his own half I knew it was a goal
Indeed the wifie sitting beside me screamed “Aw naw!”

The 90+2
06-12-2018, 02:28 PM
Rocky will get his bingo number called Saturday I reckon and Bogdans confidence will be thrown to the dogs. Although it wouldn’t surprise me if Whittaker has the gloves on Saturday.

The 90+2
06-12-2018, 02:30 PM
I think we're making too much of it tbh and to drop a solid keeper after something like that would be madness. Especially in a team that gets changed so often it leaves everyone guessing the team.

The team gets changed that much it’s not exactly settled with a constant keeper in goal. Saying that I wouldn’t drop Bogdan until he turns down a pre-contract in Jan.

CLASS OF 72 -73
06-12-2018, 04:08 PM
Dont care what anyone says, goalkeepers aren’t at fault when they’re lobbed from that distance. His position was fine, it was just a great strike.

Couldn’t see what happened for the second but not coming for s cross is something you could say about Marciano as well.

Making changes for the sake of making changes doesn’t help. We’ve done enough of that recently already.


Professional keeper should never be lobbed from distance unless he is way off his line which Bogdan was and his positioning was hardly fine. Wouldn't drop him though as he hasn't done enough wrong.

MWHIBBIES
06-12-2018, 04:17 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJIvSyrH4Ng

Here is Thibaut Courtois, the man who has recently won the award for best goalkeeper in the world, being lobbed from distance.

Jones28
06-12-2018, 04:24 PM
Not asking for him to be dropped only stating that he should have been made aware that the boy had it in his locker
As soon as the ball left his foot from his own half I knew it was a goal
Indeed the wifie sitting beside me screamed “Aw naw!”

Genuinely asking here, did Mcginley or Charnley ever do that more than he once?

CLASS OF 72 -73
06-12-2018, 05:48 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJIvSyrH4Ng

Here is Thibaut Courtois, the man who has recently won the award for best goalkeeper in the world, being lobbed from distance.


Also 15 yards of his line:agree:

BILLYHIBS
06-12-2018, 06:02 PM
Genuinely asking here, did Mcginley or Charnley ever do that more than he once?

Yip! Pretty sure Chic did before he came to Hibs as he had it in his locker Pat McGinley scored from the halfway line as part of a wee bit banter he had with Chic “anything you can do” but sadly was all to go pear shaped I even remember Oxley scoring against Livvy

Once again I repeat I am not blaming or asking for Bogdan to be dropped all I am saying Is forewarned is forearmed he was taken by surprise and I don’t think he would have been surprised if he was expecting to be lobbed after all he scored the same goal two weeks earlier versus Hearts

BILLYHIBS
06-12-2018, 06:08 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJIvSyrH4Ng

Here is Thibaut Courtois, the man who has recently won the award for best goalkeeper in the world, being lobbed from distance.

Yip! Life’s a bitch Would take Courtois before Rocky or Bogdan any time

I admit **** happens

Bogdan should have been primed that the boy had it in his locker and to be aware of it

Jim Herriot was a first class goalie for HIBS lost three in Split never played for HIBS again

Hi Heid Yin
06-12-2018, 06:16 PM
The defence don’t seem very confident with Bogdan, look how many goals we are conceding

The defence are not confident..full stop...Absolutely nothing to do with trusting Bogdan.
Even Hanlon, who is usually so reliable, is making school boy errors.....along with another stalwart - McGregor
Porteous is still young and less intuitive than the two mentioned so can be forgiven for his recent school boy calamity.

Thegreenside
06-12-2018, 06:17 PM
Happy with Bogdan, especially with distribution compared to Marciano.

Yesterday’s goal seemed like a combination of weak hold up play and a screamer from the boy.

RossScott1991
08-12-2018, 04:38 PM
Started the thread after weds, clean sheet for the big man!

HibeeHibernian4
08-12-2018, 04:41 PM
Yep, unlucky for Bogdan to pick up a late knock like that but I’d be keeping Marciano in goals for now. Defence seemed to trust him a bit more with collecting through balls, especially Porteous I thought.

erin go bragh
08-12-2018, 05:00 PM
Not saying Bogdan has been horrendous, and goalkeeper position is definitely the least of our worries at the moment in the team. However I'd like to see Marciano given a run of games now. Who knows maybe in certain games he would be able to pull off some of the saves he had no right to get to last season and it might just inspire the rest of his team a little bit.

Bogdan has pulled off some great saves at times this season and as I say it is least of our concerns within the team with defence, midfield and forwards needing prioritised.

From what I have seen from Bogdan and Marciano, I rate Rocky just that little bit more. IMO, just personal preference.
You been using a Bogdan voodoo doll mate 😜

Jones28
08-12-2018, 05:05 PM
Yip! Pretty sure Chic did before he came to Hibs as he had it in his locker Pat McGinley scored from the halfway line as part of a wee bit banter he had with Chic “anything you can do” but sadly was all to go pear shaped I even remember Oxley scoring against Livvy

Once again I repeat I am not blaming or asking for Bogdan to be dropped all I am saying Is forewarned is forearmed he was taken by surprise and I don’t think he would have been surprised if he was expecting to be lobbed after all he scored the same goal two weeks earlier versus Hearts

That's fair Billy

Onion
08-12-2018, 05:33 PM
Marciano was unlucky to lose the gloves at Hibs and has been a great keeper for us. Bogdan's done ok, but - for me - Rocky has a better understanding with our defenders who seem to have real faith in him. Glad to see him back.

coldingham hibs
08-12-2018, 05:58 PM
Marciano made me a lot more confident today, he looked solid and his distribution was excellent, I think Bogdan has done well but I’d rather Rocky was back as 1st choice.

Zazu62
08-12-2018, 06:03 PM
Rocky should be playing every week

emerald green
08-12-2018, 06:09 PM
Compared to some of the clowns Hibs have had in goals in past seasons Hibs are lucky to have Marciano, Bogdan and Laidlaw at ER.

kaimendhibs
08-12-2018, 06:15 PM
I like Rocky but his distribution was not excellent. At least 3 times today he chipped the ball straight to Accies players
Marciano made me a lot more confident today, he looked solid and his distribution was excellent, I think Bogdan has done well but I’d rather Rocky was back as 1st choice.

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RossScott1991
08-12-2018, 06:18 PM
You been using a Bogdan voodoo doll mate 😜

Haha not quite but I am glad to see rocky back in the sticks. Bogdan not done a lot wrong but I just feel more confident with rocky!

Hibees1973
08-12-2018, 06:21 PM
These things happen in football. No brainer for me....a win, clean sheet so Marciano starts against Celtic.

Scouse Hibee
09-12-2018, 09:35 AM
Bogdan the better keeper in my opinion but Marciano now has the gloves back so his to lose I reckon.

hibsbollah
09-12-2018, 10:21 AM
Bogdan the better keeper in my opinion but Marciano now has the gloves back so his to lose I reckon.

This is where I am too. And competition for places makes good players better.

Ryan69
09-12-2018, 11:14 AM
With both players being of a similar standard with Bogdan being a loanee,and Marciano being our player....we should be going with Marciano unless he has some major howlers.

Marciano is a good goalie,and with him being our player...That should be prioritised!

HFCcammy1875
09-12-2018, 11:54 AM
I’d go with bogdan his distribution is top class compared to rocky’s

Borderhibbie76
09-12-2018, 12:23 PM
Bogdan the better keeper in my opinion but Marciano now has the gloves back so his to lose I reckon.Both decent and lucky to have them...if only our midfield was as spoilt for choice

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RossScott1991
16-12-2018, 02:12 PM
2 clean sheets in a row. Gloves are his!

Borderhibbie76
16-12-2018, 02:26 PM
Defence just looks more assured with Rocky back...I don't think they have the same level of trust in Bogdan tbh.

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My_Wife_Camille
16-12-2018, 02:30 PM
Best keeper at the club 👏🏼

hfc rd
16-12-2018, 03:01 PM
Can’t remember the last time we had two very good GK’s at the club. Marciano is the number 1 and rightly so. Two clean sheets in a row. He keeps the gloves. Bogdan is a fantastic goalkeeper as well.

Crab apple
16-12-2018, 03:07 PM
Compared to some of the clowns Hibs have had in goals in past seasons Hibs are lucky to have Marciano, Bogdan and Laidlaw at ER.

Good post.

Northernhibee
16-12-2018, 07:56 PM
Prefer him to Bogdan, the last ten minutes against Hearts showed that Bogdan just doesn't have quite the same strength under pressure that Marciano gives us. Bogdan's a very good keeper but Marciano has shot stopping, a good command of his box but for me has the edge mentally.

Onion
16-12-2018, 08:24 PM
Defence just looks more assured with Rocky back...I don't think they have the same level of trust in Bogdan tbh.

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:agree: Not just what Rocky does himself. More than the sum of the parts.

calumhibee1
16-12-2018, 08:26 PM
Don’t think Bogdan would have been dropped had he not got injured and I don’t think he would have deserved to. I do marginally prefer Rocky though and reckon he’s more capable of being a match winner for us.

Not that you’d have known today, he looked bored out his mind :greengrin

SirDavidsNapper
16-12-2018, 08:26 PM
2 games back 6 points. Bogdan didn't do much wrong but gloves are Rockys

J-C
16-12-2018, 08:27 PM
Defence just looks more assured with Rocky back...I don't think they have the same level of trust in Bogdan tbh.

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He was the regular keeper all last season so will have an understanding with the players, hence why they may seem more assured with him in goals.

Aim Here
16-12-2018, 08:42 PM
One thing I've not seen Marciano do these past two games is hoof the ball into touch from a goal kick or whatever (okay, it happened once at Hamilton, but even then it bounced a couple of times and the outfield players had plenty opportunity to get to the ball, but were too busy shoving each other).

He seems to be a changed man, distribution-wise - last season it would happen about four or five times every game. The Hibs coaching staff must have taught him to kick the ball straight...