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Ozyhibby
01-12-2018, 06:16 PM
https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/hibs-garry-parker-brands-3-0-defeat-at-kilmarnock-shocking-1-4837846/amp?__twitter_impression=true

“We came here to not get beat, be defensive and they scored straight away,"

Against a team with half our budget the limit of our ambition is to defend for a draw?


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Callum_62
01-12-2018, 06:17 PM
https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/hibs-garry-parker-brands-3-0-defeat-at-kilmarnock-shocking-1-4837846/amp?__twitter_impression=true

“We came here to not get beat, be defensive and they scored straight away,"

Against a team with half our budget the limit of our ambition is to defend for a draw?


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Given they are the form team of 2018- im not surprised


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Keith_M
01-12-2018, 06:22 PM
Where was the guy that actually picked the team? Six bl**dy defenders, against Kilmarnock.

bingo70
01-12-2018, 06:22 PM
Why is Parker giving the post match interview?

I just about got it after the St Johnstone game but to put him in front of the press again after another defeat is pretty poor imo.

If we’d beat st Johnstone Lennon would have been the one speaking to the press and the sake again today.

He’ll be gone by next weekend IMO.

HibeeHibernian4
01-12-2018, 06:25 PM
Why is Parker giving the post match interview?

I just about got it after the St Johnstone game but to put him in front of the press again after another defeat is pretty poor imo.

If we’d beat st Johnstone Lennon would have been the one speaking to the press and the sake again today.

He’ll be gone by next weekend IMO.

Because Neil Lennon, in my opinion, is a coward when things get tough. He's never gone through any footballing adversity as a manager and come out the other side of it smiling. He will chuck in the towel.

Keith_M
01-12-2018, 06:27 PM
Because Neil Lennon, in my opinion, is a coward when things get tough. He's never gone through any footballing adversity as a manager and come out the other side of it smiling. He will chuck in the towel.


:agree:

HibeeHibernian4
01-12-2018, 06:29 PM
:agree:

Nobody will be happier than me if I'm proved wrong on this, but I don't think I will be.

660
01-12-2018, 06:29 PM
Where’s Lennon? Sending out Parker is weak.

EH54
01-12-2018, 06:31 PM
His times coming to an end you can just feel it. Something isn't right. I'd go for stubbs again if we couldn't get Clarke tbh. Strachan would be interesting but not sure his heart would be in it either. I hope I'm wrong and Lennon comes out fighting and gets us through it, as I really did enjoy last season and his interviews etc were great. Don't know what's going on this year.

Kavinho
01-12-2018, 06:32 PM
Because Neil Lennon, in my opinion, is a coward when things get tough. He's never gone through any footballing adversity as a manager and come out the other side of it smiling. He will chuck in the towel.

Aye death threaths, getting attacked on the field and having coins thrown at him aren't tough at all...

erin-go-bragh87
01-12-2018, 06:32 PM
I think the fans deserved an explanation from the Manager regarding the team selection. Poor from him to send Parker out instead.

bingo70
01-12-2018, 06:33 PM
If I was a player I’d be looking at Lennon avoiding the press and questioning how he can ask anything of them after that.

Unless he’s about to quit he should be out there taking it on the chin like the players have to.

Stuart93
01-12-2018, 06:35 PM
After nearly every bad defeat he always leaves the interview to someone else, like someone’s said it’s very cowardly. He should be coming out and slamming the players for that, apologising to the travelling supporters and blaming himself for his horrendous team selection

Hermit Crab
01-12-2018, 06:36 PM
Where was the guy that actually picked the team? Six bl**dy defenders, against Kilmarnock.

And still conceded 3 very soft, more than preventable goals.

B.H.F.C
01-12-2018, 06:37 PM
Lennon hiding?

HibeeHibernian4
01-12-2018, 06:37 PM
Aye death threaths, getting attacked on the field and having coins thrown at him aren't tough at all...

You see that bit in my post where I put the word "footballing"? It was to stop a post like yours from being written. And it still didn't work.

pacoluna
01-12-2018, 06:40 PM
His times coming to an end you can just feel it. Something isn't right. I'd go for stubbs again if we couldn't get Clarke tbh. Strachan would be interesting but not sure his heart would be in it either. I hope I'm wrong and Lennon comes out fighting and gets us through it, as I really did enjoy last season and his interviews etc were great. Don't know what's going on this year.

:greengrin:greengrin:greengrin:greengrin:aok:

Northernhibee
01-12-2018, 06:48 PM
Lennon hiding?

Sorry but if you're going to hide from the press when the **** is hitting the fan, then that's not a leader. That's a shirker. Which admittedly isn't like him at all.

If you pick the team you need to take responsibility for when it goes wrong as well as accepting the adulation when you get it right. That's cowardly otherwise.

Elephant Stone
01-12-2018, 06:59 PM
Because Neil Lennon, in my opinion, is a coward when things get tough. He's never gone through any footballing adversity as a manager and come out the other side of it smiling. He will chuck in the towel.

Deary, deary me

HibeeHibernian4
01-12-2018, 07:09 PM
Deary, deary me

I'd love to hear a proper response to this.

Lennon has built up a Cult of Personality at Hibs where people swallow wholesale that he has a 'winning mentality' and is 'unbreakable'. He repeatedly sends Parker to do interviews in defeat, he quite often shifts blame onto the players if we've lost, he's more than happy to come out and accept the plaudits when things are going well but the second we hit a sticky patch he 'considers his future' as he did in May after we lost at Tynecastle.

What adversity, again sticking to football here, did he go through at Celtic? He took over in March 2010, they were never winning the league by that point but they got knocked out of the Scottish Cup by Ross County in the semi finals. 2010/11 season, they finish second behind Rangers, didn't pull it out of the fire in a close title race.

His next three seasons at Celtic are nothing more than a procession to the title, and he still can't win a treble or come close to doing so.

Then he realises he can't take them any further (i.e. in Europe) and stands down - sound familiar to present day?

He goes to Bolton, where he has the readymade excuse of their financial armageddon off the pitch to cover him regardless of how results go on the pitch. He is able to pull the "well nobody could work under those conditions" card and leaves.

He comes to Hibs, he is given the biggest budget in the Championship against a host of part timers and lowly former Premiership outfits, including a shambles of a Dundee United team for our nearest rivals. He still nearly contrives to throw it away in December and March, but eventually Hibs get there - in no small part to all of our challengers falling away. He ends the season on the same points total as Stubbs managed in 2015/16, and Stubbs also won a cup. The less said about Lennon's cup record at Hibs, the better.

But clearly I must be mistaken, because he's obviously very good at coming through adversity, isn't he?

Elephant Stone
01-12-2018, 07:11 PM
I'd love to hear a proper response to this.

Lennon has built up a Cult of Personality at Hibs where people swallow wholesale that he has a 'winning mentality' and is 'unbreakable'. He repeatedly sends Parker to do interviews in defeat, he quite often shifts blame onto the players if we've lost, he's more than happy to come out and accept the plaudits when things are going well but the second we hit a sticky patch he 'considers his future' as he did in May after we lost at Tynecastle.

What adversity, again sticking to football here, did he go through at Celtic? He took over in March 2010, they were never winning the league by that point but they got knocked out of the Scottish Cup by Ross County in the semi finals. 2010/11 season, they finish second behind Rangers, didn't pull it out of the fire in a close title race.

His next three seasons at Celtic are nothing more than a procession to the title, and he still can't win a treble or come close to doing so.

Then he realises he can't take them any further (i.e. in Europe) and stands down - sound familiar to present day?

He goes to Bolton, where he has the readymade excuse of their financial armageddon off the pitch to cover him regardless of how results go on the pitch. He is able to pull the "well nobody could work under those conditions" card and leaves.

He comes to Hibs, he is given the biggest budget in the Championship against a host of part timers and lowly former Premiership outfits, including a shambles of a Dundee United team for our nearest rivals. He still nearly contrives to throw it away in December and March, but eventually Hibs get there - in no small part to all of our challengers falling away. He ends the season on the same points total as Stubbs managed in 2015/16, and Stubbs also won a cup. The less said about Lennon's cup record at Hibs, the better.

But clearly I must be mistaken, because he's obviously very good at coming through adversity, isn't he?

Saying Neil Lennon is a coward who doesn't cope with adversity is the stupidest thing I have read on this forum. Hands down.

And even in a football sense, the threats on his life have come from his footballing career.

Stuart93
01-12-2018, 07:12 PM
Saying Neil Lennon is a coward who doesn't cope with adversity is the stupidest thing I have read on this forum. And even in a football sense, pretty sure he was quit 0 jobs.

Quit the Celtic job actually

HibeeHibernian4
01-12-2018, 07:13 PM
Saying Neil Lennon is a coward who doesn't cope with adversity is the stupidest thing I have read on this forum. And even in a football sense, pretty sure he was quit 0 jobs.

No, not "even", I said only in a football sense. Do not pretend it was a comment on his personal life, or the sectarian hatred that has followed him throughout his career, I never implied anything of the sort.

He resigned as Celtic manager at the end of 2014.

He left Bolton by mutual consent in 2016.

Those are his only past two jobs in management.

Anything else you'd like to be wrong on?

Elephant Stone
01-12-2018, 07:13 PM
Quit the Celtic job actually

OK, quit one job after being sent a viable bomb. Coward.

SquashedFrogg
01-12-2018, 07:14 PM
Where’s Lennon? Sending out Parker is weak.

You do know the managers priority is his players, not bbc sportsound?

Maybe he was talking to his team?

Elephant Stone
01-12-2018, 07:14 PM
No, not "even", I said only in a football sense. Do not pretend it was a comment on his personal life, or the sectarian hatred that has followed him throughout his career, I never implied anything of the sort.

He resigned as Celtic manager at the end of 2014.

He left Bolton by mutual consent in 2016.

Those are his only past two jobs in management.

Anything else you'd like to be wrong on?

Leaving by mutual consent is not quiting. So, he's quit one job after being sent a bomb and being protected by the security services at his work. What a coward.

HibeeHibernian4
01-12-2018, 07:15 PM
OK, quit one job after being sent a viable bomb. Coward.

Those mail bombs, while deplorable and sickening, were sent to him in April 2011. He resigned as Celtic manager three years later.

Stuart93
01-12-2018, 07:15 PM
OK, quit one job after being sent a viable bomb. Coward.

I’m sure he quit because he hadn’t been backed enough by the board in his eyes but yep, a bomb

wookie70
01-12-2018, 07:18 PM
Saying Neil Lennon is a coward who doesn't cope with adversity is the stupidest thing I have read on this forum. Hands down.

And even in a football sense, the threats on his life have come from his footballing career. I think he got one more point than Stubbs in the Championship. My thoughts are similar. I had him down as a manager that I didn't like as a person and had no idea about as a manager. My view hasn't changed much. Decent at motivating when it is going well points the finger in defeat. I would hate him as a man manager as he is so volitile and unpredictable and rarely blames himself

One Day Soon
01-12-2018, 07:21 PM
I'd love to hear a proper response to this.

Lennon has built up a Cult of Personality at Hibs where people swallow wholesale that he has a 'winning mentality' and is 'unbreakable'. He repeatedly sends Parker to do interviews in defeat, he quite often shifts blame onto the players if we've lost, he's more than happy to come out and accept the plaudits when things are going well but the second we hit a sticky patch he 'considers his future' as he did in May after we lost at Tynecastle.

What adversity, again sticking to football here, did he go through at Celtic? He took over in March 2010, they were never winning the league by that point but they got knocked out of the Scottish Cup by Ross County in the semi finals. 2010/11 season, they finish second behind Rangers, didn't pull it out of the fire in a close title race.

His next three seasons at Celtic are nothing more than a procession to the title, and he still can't win a treble or come close to doing so.

Then he realises he can't take them any further (i.e. in Europe) and stands down - sound familiar to present day?

He goes to Bolton, where he has the readymade excuse of their financial armageddon off the pitch to cover him regardless of how results go on the pitch. He is able to pull the "well nobody could work under those conditions" card and leaves.

He comes to Hibs, he is given the biggest budget in the Championship against a host of part timers and lowly former Premiership outfits, including a shambles of a Dundee United team for our nearest rivals. He still nearly contrives to throw it away in December and March, but eventually Hibs get there - in no small part to all of our challengers falling away. He ends the season on the same points total as Stubbs managed in 2015/16, and Stubbs also won a cup. The less said about Lennon's cup record at Hibs, the better.

But clearly I must be mistaken, because he's obviously very good at coming through adversity, isn't he?


Yeah when he left us in the adversity of May I was really disappointed. Any idea who the new guy we've had in since then is?

emerald green
01-12-2018, 07:24 PM
And still conceded 3 very soft, more than preventable goals.

:agree: Hibs, as a team, do not defend well in too many matches. In our last six matches Hibs have only kept a clean sheet once in a 0-0 kicking match versus Hearts.

HibeeHibernian4
01-12-2018, 07:26 PM
Yeah when he left us in the adversity of May I was really disappointed. Any idea who the new guy we've had in since then is?

Hilarious. If you like Lennon then that's okay, but you don't need to have your head in the sand about some of his actions as Hibs manager.

He threw his toys out of the pram because we didn't win at Tynecastle, and as a sidenote, he only realised after the game that we only needed a point there. How embarrassing is that as a football manager? To not know the permutations of your side getting European football in the penultimate game of the season?

The fact that he stayed on, I was (and somewhat am) still happy about, but when Hibs lose a game it often marks the start of a bad patch of form that takes him several weeks to rectify. That's too costly in a league like this, teams take advantage and it ends up being too difficult to overhaul them. Case in point, Aberdeen last season, beat us twice and were out of sight by January, we couldn't catch them despite a very, very good second half of the season.

Edit: Also, sorry, I've just read my post back? Where on earth did I say 'he left in May' or imply it? I said he was considering his future, which he said in the aftermath of the defeat at Tynecastle. Brainless.

Elephant Stone
01-12-2018, 07:29 PM
Hilarious. If you like Lennon then that's okay, but you don't need to have your head in the sand about some of his actions as Hibs manager.

He threw his toys out of the pram because we didn't win at Tynecastle, and as a sidenote, he only realised after the game that we only needed a point there. How embarrassing is that as a football manager? To not know the permutations of your side getting European football in the penultimate game of the season?

The fact that he stayed on, I was (and somewhat am) still happy about, but when Hibs lose a game it often marks the start of a bad patch of form that takes him several weeks to rectify. That's too costly in a league like this, teams take advantage and it ends up being too difficult to overhaul them. Case in point, Aberdeen last season, beat us twice and were out of sight by January, we couldn't catch them despite a very, very good second half of the season.

No person in the recent history of Scottish football - maybe even all of Scottish football ever - will have dealt with the amount of adversity as a result of his profession as Lennon. You've chosen to call him a coward because he doesn't cope with adversity well, scraping the barrel there pal. Embarrassing.

HibeeHibernian4
01-12-2018, 07:31 PM
No person in the recent history of Scottish football - maybe even all of Scottish football ever - will have dealt with the amount of adversity as a result of his profession as Lennon. You've chosen to call him a coward because he doesn't cope with adversity well, scraping the barrel there pal. Embarrassing.

Going to retract your bomb comment pal?

Elephant Stone
01-12-2018, 07:31 PM
Going to retract your bomb comment pal?

I bet that, and the constant threats on his life, had nothing to do with him leaving, yeah :aok:

One Day Soon
01-12-2018, 07:36 PM
Hilarious. If you like Lennon then that's okay, but you don't need to have your head in the sand about some of his actions as Hibs manager.

He threw his toys out of the pram because we didn't win at Tynecastle, and as a sidenote, he only realised after the game that we only needed a point there. How embarrassing is that as a football manager? To not know the permutations of your side getting European football in the penultimate game of the season?

The fact that he stayed on, I was (and somewhat am) still happy about, but when Hibs lose a game it often marks the start of a bad patch of form that takes him several weeks to rectify. That's too costly in a league like this, teams take advantage and it ends up being too difficult to overhaul them. Case in point, Aberdeen last season, beat us twice and were out of sight by January, we couldn't catch them despite a very, very good second half of the season.

Edit: Also, sorry, I've just read my post back? Where on earth did I say 'he left in May' or imply it? I said he was considering his future, which he said in the aftermath of the defeat at Tynecastle. Brainless.


Here's what you said: "Because Neil Lennon, in my opinion, is a coward when things get tough. He's never gone through any footballing adversity as a manager and come out the other side of it smiling. He will chuck in the towel."

You then go on in a subsequent post to say: "the second we hit a sticky patch he 'considers his future' as he did in May after we lost at Tynecastle"

By your logic he was facing adversity last May - the sticky patch you refer to - and would be quitting because of it. I mean your whole point was that he is a serial quitter in football terms because he is a coward wasn't it?

So he must be some kind of specialist slow-motion quitter because it's six months since that 'sticky patch' and he's still here

Northernhibee
01-12-2018, 07:36 PM
No person in the recent history of Scottish football - maybe even all of Scottish football ever - will have dealt with the amount of adversity as a result of his profession as Lennon. You've chosen to call him a coward because he doesn't cope with adversity well, scraping the barrel there pal. Embarrassing.

He didn't show up to a press conference after another poor result - hardly scraping the barrel.

FWIW, not showing up to the post match press conference is the worst thing he could have done. Best thing would have been go out and say "My fault, got the team selection wrong, we move on to the next game" which deflects some of the heat off the players with a big game midweek. Next would have to go and say "We played terribly today and I wasn't happy with my players application" - puts pressure on the players shoulders but still takes it on the chin. Even going out and complaining about the flood lights would have worked.

By not showing up all the theories about him have a huge container of petrol thrown on them.

J-C
01-12-2018, 07:40 PM
I’m sure he quit because he hadn’t been backed enough by the board in his eyes but yep, a bomb


You are correct, wanted more money after they beat Barca and wanted to go further in the Champions League, didn't get the full backing and threw his toys out the pram.

Sir David Gray
01-12-2018, 07:41 PM
I understood why Parker came out and did the post match stuff for the St Johnstone after everything that had happened at Tynecastle a few days earlier. I don't agree with the decision to send him out again today.

I think Lennon should have been out in front of the reporters answering questions, in particular about his weird starting line up.

HibeeHibernian4
01-12-2018, 07:44 PM
Here's what you said: "Because Neil Lennon, in my opinion, is a coward when things get tough. He's never gone through any footballing adversity as a manager and come out the other side of it smiling. He will chuck in the towel."

You then go on in a subsequent post to say: "the second we hit a sticky patch he 'considers his future' as he did in May after we lost at Tynecastle"

Did he come out smiling after adversity? Or were we mercifully relieved by the end of the season coming just four or five days later, which gave Lennon time to calm down and think about the season ahead? Had that Hearts game been at the start of the split, we could've gone into meltdown and lost all the remaining games with the attitude Lennon had.

I'm not quite sure what your point is, am I supposed to commend Lennon for threatening to quit in an interview and then not doing it? It's hardly rational and mature of him, is it?

Smartie
01-12-2018, 07:46 PM
Neil Lennon picked a crap team today, picked a few questionable ones in recent weeks and looks to have had a poor transfer window.

He is not a coward.

Adversity at Celtic is defeat to Rangers or going a couple of games without a win whilst operating in a volatile goldfish bowl of a city. To suggest that he didn't face adversity there is almost as ridiculous as suggesting he didn't face adversity at Bolton, where he toughed out an impossible situation for a very long time.

The man who got us promoted after three years and led us to a good finish last season, playing some excellent football along the way deserves more support and respect than this.

bingo70
01-12-2018, 07:47 PM
I understood why Parker came out and did the post match stuff for the St Johnstone after everything that had happened at Tynecastle a few days earlier. I don't agree with the decision to send him out again today.

I think Lennon should have been out in front of the reporters answering questions, in particular about his weird starting line up.

I don’t think he needs to justify his starting 11.

He’s the manager so he lives and dies by his team selections and he doesn’t need to explain them to anyone other than the players.

He should come out and take his medicine if it doesn’t work though, to hide behind his assistant, and that’s exactly what he did, was very poor imo and points towards bigger problems behind the scenes, again imo.

One Day Soon
01-12-2018, 07:50 PM
Did he come out smiling after adversity? Or were we mercifully relieved by the end of the season coming just four or five days later, which gave Lennon time to calm down and think about the season ahead? Had that Hearts game been at the start of the split, we could've gone into meltdown and lost all the remaining games with the attitude Lennon had.

I'm not quite sure what your point is, am I supposed to commend Lennon for threatening to quit in an interview and then not doing it? It's hardly rational and mature of him, is it?


You can dissemble all you like but you claimed he's a quitter. He's still there after the specific type of episode you brought up which - by your own argument - would see him quitting. He didn't.

bingo70
01-12-2018, 07:51 PM
Neil Lennon picked a crap team today, picked a few questionable ones in recent weeks and looks to have had a poor transfer window.

He is not a coward.

Adversity at Celtic is defeat to Rangers or going a couple of games without a win whilst operating in a volatile goldfish bowl of a city. To suggest that he didn't face adversity there is almost as ridiculous as suggesting he didn't face adversity at Bolton, where he toughed out an impossible situation for a very long time.

The man who got us promoted after three years and led us to a good finish last season, playing some excellent football along the way deserves more support and respect than this.

I admire your defence of him but I disagree with your last paragraph. Gotbus promoted after three season isn’t really the point is it, in his season in the championship it was a very different league to the two previous to that. I’d fancy anybody to get us promoted with that squad in that league. He did it though so he deserves credit but let’s not paint it as some sort of miracle achievement.

As for him deserving more respect, I would argue we are more deserving of respect than he’s given us recently. By not speaking to the media after the game he isnt ignoring a few journalists, he’s ignoring our fans who want to hear from him.

Lago
01-12-2018, 07:52 PM
The thing that disappoints me most about Hibs over the years is a lack of ambition. On various threads here we have supporters happy to accept a top 6 finish or if we really do well we might get 4th, 4th!!
I have supported Hibs for many many years, more bad times than good, but I was fortunate enough to watch the Tornadoes in all their pomp and it was great. No we didn't win the league, but for a broken leg we might well have. Never did Eddie Turnbull talk about setting up a team to play defensively against Killie, or against anyone. That team & Manager had ambition for Hibs & it showed, where has it all gone ?

A Hi-Bee
01-12-2018, 07:52 PM
Does it matter who fronts up to speak to the so called press/media, its whats going on in the dressing room and in the boardroom that matters and we dont get to hear much of that for very good reasons.

bingo70
01-12-2018, 07:54 PM
Does it matter who fronts up to speak to the so called press/media, its whats going on in the dressing room and in the boardroom that matters and we dont get to hear much of that for very good reasons.

Correct, and when things are going well on the pitch nobody cares who fronts up to speak to the media.

When things aren’t going well though that’s when he needs to earn his crust.

I just mentioned it in a previous post but by ignoring the media he isn’t ignoring the journalists he’s ignoring the fans who want to hear what he has to say.

Arch Stanton
01-12-2018, 08:00 PM
Because Neil Lennon, in my opinion, is a coward when things get tough. He's never gone through any footballing adversity as a manager and come out the other side of it smiling. He will chuck in the towel.

I'm sorry, I mean it's a really imperious post and all but it flies in the face of the facts, I'm afraid! We were in a similar position a year ago and Lennon got us through it.

A Hi-Bee
01-12-2018, 08:00 PM
The thing that disappoints me most about Hibs over the years is a lack of ambition. On various threads here we have supporters happy to accept a top 6 finish or if we really do well we might get 4th, 4th!!
I have supported Hibs for many many years, more bad times than good, but I was fortunate enough to watch the Tornadoes in all their pomp and it was great. No we didn't win the league, but for a broken leg we might well have. Never did Eddie Turnbull talk about setting up a team to play defensively against Killie, or against anyone. That team & Manager had ambition for Hibs & it showed, where has it all gone ?

Seen all the above and more good and bad, seem to remember John Collins spoke about a glass ceiling and he was hounded at the time for it. What they mean I am sure is nothing to do with being defeatist but just reality that we are not in the same place when it comes down to most things against the 2 cheeks and now also the sheep with the ********s over the city perhaps passing us by as well.
Yes the words mentioned came from some dodgy jurno trying it on but does not make the reality any less. It don’t mean that we ever start a season without the intention of trying to do our best then reality kicks in and the only real way to get much better in a consistent way would be for the club to have more money.
Quality players cost real money, time for the board to perhaps speculate to eventually accumulate and time for all supporters to dig even deeper if we can.

Smartie
01-12-2018, 08:04 PM
I admire your defence of him but I disagree with your last paragraph. Gotbus promoted after three season isn’t really the point is it, in his season in the championship it was a very different league to the two previous to that. I’d fancy anybody to get us promoted with that squad in that league. He did it though so he deserves credit but let’s not paint it as some sort of miracle achievement.

As for him deserving more respect, I would argue we are more deserving of respect than he’s given us recently. By not speaking to the media after the game he isnt ignoring a few journalists, he’s ignoring our fans who want to hear from him.

The Championship was black and white. He had one job - to get us up - and he succeeded. He didn't need to do it in style or with a record points total.

There was a bit more subjectivity when looking at last season, but whichever way you look at it it was a success.

I might be unusual here in that I'm happy hearing from Parker. He speaks well, honestly and calmly under duress. Lennon occasionally says things he shouldn't under those circumstances, and it might be that his time was better spent at that point with the players.

The only thing I'm looking for more of from Lennon is rational team selection and tactics. I generally like to hear him talk about football, the only time I don't is when he's stuck in front of a microphone in the wrong frame of mind (see Tynecastle last season.)

He's not hiding.

hibsbollah
01-12-2018, 08:04 PM
I understood why Parker came out and did the post match stuff for the St Johnstone after everything that had happened at Tynecastle a few days earlier. I don't agree with the decision to send him out again today.

I think Lennon should have been out in front of the reporters answering questions, in particular about his weird starting line up.

I agree with this.
But all the previous talk of him being a coward is just awful. The sound of a barrel being scraped.

where'stheslope
01-12-2018, 08:05 PM
I hope the media are not looking in on this thread, if they are we are in for a torrid time in the coming week.
The amount of ammunition given on here is astounding?
Reading all this will drive a wedge right through the club!!!
Well done lads!!!

660
01-12-2018, 08:10 PM
You do know the managers priority is his players, not bbc sportsound?

Maybe he was talking to his team?

Ah the team where he played half of them out of position and has been taking about how they aren’t as good as the team last year. I’m not sure they are his priority to be perfectly honest.

A Hi-Bee
01-12-2018, 08:12 PM
I hope the media are not looking in on this thread, if they are we are in for a torrid time in the coming week.
The amount of ammunition given on here is astounding?
Reading all this will drive a wedge right through the club!!!
Well done lads!!!

All just opinions which would not even register in any type of quality newspaper (ooh I forgot their are no quality newspapers) but come on! who in their right mind takes anything said on a football forum seriously.


Only punters voicing opinions is not likely to change the world, or anything else for that matter.

lord bunberry
01-12-2018, 08:12 PM
I hope he was with the players trying to sort out what went wrong today. I couldn’t give a **** who does the post match interview. Maybe he was so angry that he was afraid he would say something he regrets. People read too much into this sort of thing. He has a history of getting himself into trouble and that’s far more likely to happen after a defeat. Maybe he’s just being sensible rather than being a coward, maybe there’s someone in the backroom team that says to him that it’s better if he doesn’t do the interview.

Real Emerald
01-12-2018, 08:22 PM
I hope the media are not looking in on this thread, if they are we are in for a torrid time in the coming week.
The amount of ammunition given on here is astounding?
Reading all this will drive a wedge right through the club!!!
Well done lads!!!

Ridiculous to blame the fans discussing an alarming drop in form to what the press may say. The Hibs fans have backed the club in more numbers in all my time supporting them. The ammunition is supplied by Hibs board, management and players, it pisses me off when folk start blaming worried loyal supporters.

The 90+2
01-12-2018, 08:24 PM
Does it matter who fronts up to speak to the so called press/media, its whats going on in the dressing room and in the boardroom that matters and we dont get to hear much of that for very good reasons.

Tell that to the support who travelled to Killie today to watch that guff (replayed on alba) I had hibs for the win today but as soon as I seen the team I changed cashed out and put Killie -1. A blind man could see what was coming. For the manager to not face the media and speak to the support about what the **** went wrong is shocking. Not cowardly no, but showing a complete disregard to our support. Did he have a sore throat again? I’m sure he will rock up at Hampden tomorrow though regardless.

The 90+2
01-12-2018, 08:25 PM
I hope the media are not looking in on this thread, if they are we are in for a torrid time in the coming week.
The amount of ammunition given on here is astounding?
Reading all this will drive a wedge right through the club!!!
Well done lads!!!

How can you blame the support? Wake up!!’

Stuart93
01-12-2018, 08:25 PM
Quesrion is, as confirmed by Parker in his interview, was the team set up not to concede? Kilmarnock really that much better than us now? Sad state of affairs when you think about how much of a bigger club we’re supposed to be

Hi Heid Yin
01-12-2018, 08:48 PM
Because Neil Lennon, in my opinion, is a coward when things get tough. He's never gone through any footballing adversity as a manager and come out the other side of it smiling. He will chuck in the towel.

This is the one of the lowest of the low comments I have ever read on Hibs.Net.
Would you dare say it to his face or indeed in a public setting where we can all see your face?

The 90+2
01-12-2018, 08:54 PM
This is the one of the lowest of the low comments I have ever read on Hibs.Net.
Would you dare say it to his face or indeed in a public setting where we can all see your face?

You would have to ask the poster the question in a public place because the last time I checked it was a football messageboard.

Smartie
01-12-2018, 09:30 PM
Quesrion is, as confirmed by Parker in his interview, was the team set up not to concede? Kilmarnock really that much better than us now? Sad state of affairs when you think about how much of a bigger club we’re supposed to be

Setting a team up not to concede is fine.

We were playing away to a decent team on a horrible pitch.

To go with a particular game plan, even if it is a negative one, is fine by me.

For that game plan to be blown within minutes by one of your senior players failing to carry out the basics of that game plan is the dodgy bit.

Crab apple
01-12-2018, 09:35 PM
Setting a team up not to concede is fine.

We were playing away to a decent team on a horrible pitch.

To go with a particular game plan, even if it is a negative one, is fine by me.

For that game plan to be blown within minutes by one of your senior players failing to carry out the basics of that game plan is the dodgy bit.

This is by far the most sensible post in this thread.

Dancehibs
01-12-2018, 09:38 PM
Setting a team up not to concede is fine.

We were playing away to a decent team on a horrible pitch.

To go with a particular game plan, even if it is a negative one, is fine by me.

For that game plan to be blown within minutes by one of your senior players failing to carry out the basics of that game plan is the dodgy bit.
Seven defenders against Killie is unacceptable

B.H.F.C
01-12-2018, 09:40 PM
This is the one of the lowest of the low comments I have ever read on Hibs.Net.
Would you dare say it to his face or indeed in a public setting where we can all see your face?

There were a lot of cowards at Rugby Park today. I’d say it to their faces no problem.

The attitude in the first half today was disgusting. Something isn’t right.

bingo70
01-12-2018, 09:41 PM
Setting a team up not to concede is fine.

We were playing away to a decent team on a horrible pitch.

To go with a particular game plan, even if it is a negative one, is fine by me.

For that game plan to be blown within minutes by one of your senior players failing to carry out the basics of that game plan is the dodgy bit.

Far too much is made about this horrible pitch.

Jesus, you’d think it was the moon they’re being asked to play on. Imo we’ve convinced ourselves we are only capable of playing on bowling greens, even then they need to be of a perfect size to suit us.

It’s a difficult away game, of course it is, but I’m guessing when we went there and win 3 nil last season we never went to ‘be defensive’ and it was the same pitch then.

B.H.F.C
01-12-2018, 09:45 PM
Far too much is made about this horrible pitch.

Jesus, you’d think it was the moon they’re being asked to play on. Imo we’ve convinced ourselves we are only capable of playing on bowling greens, even then they need to be of a perfect size to suit us.

It’s a difficult away game, of course it is, but I’m guessing when we went there and win 3 nil last season we never went to ‘be defensive’ and it was the same pitch then.

Never lost on the horrible pitch last year.

Smartie
01-12-2018, 09:46 PM
Seven defenders against Killie is unacceptable

They weren't all playing in defence though, and using this expression to beat Hibs with is unfair.

Losing 3-0 to Kilmarnock is unacceptable.

If he gets 3 points against the team who have picked up the most points in Scotland in 2018 then he can play 11 goalkeepers for all I care.

BoomtownHibees
01-12-2018, 09:49 PM
Far too much is made about this horrible pitch.

Jesus, you’d think it was the moon they’re being asked to play on. Imo we’ve convinced ourselves we are only capable of playing on bowling greens, even then they need to be of a perfect size to suit us.

It’s a difficult away game, of course it is, but I’m guessing when we went there and win 3 nil last season we never went to ‘be defensive’ and it was the same pitch then.

Correct again. Can’t play on plastic so there’s 3 teams we won’t beat away from home and if the pitch is too wee then there’s another to add as well

Smartie
01-12-2018, 09:50 PM
Far too much is made about this horrible pitch.

Jesus, you’d think it was the moon they’re being asked to play on. Imo we’ve convinced ourselves we are only capable of playing on bowling greens, even then they need to be of a perfect size to suit us.

It’s a difficult away game, of course it is, but I’m guessing when we went there and win 3 nil last season we never went to ‘be defensive’ and it was the same pitch then.

To be fair, I sort of agree with you.

Too much is made of the significance of the pitch there.

I was just using it to help emphasise that we faced a difficult trip today.

Some of the "it's only Kilmarnock" comments are nonsense. They're a good team who play well on their home patch and better teams than us have struggled there.

If we'd got three points by Soaking up pressure, defending well and scoring with our only chance, nobody would be complaining.

Dancehibs
01-12-2018, 09:51 PM
They weren't all playing in defence though, and using this expression to beat Hibs with is unfair.

Losing 3-0 to Kilmarnock is unacceptable.

If he gets 3 points against the team who have picked up the most points in Scotland in 2018 then he can play 11 goalkeepers for all I care.
Playing two defenders in midfield was outrageous.

The mighty Killie with thier five thousand fans. We have 15000 and they have picked up more points than us. Tells me lots is wrong at ER.

The 90+2
01-12-2018, 09:53 PM
To be fair, I sort of agree with you.

Too much is made of the significance of the pitch there.

I was just using it to help emphasise that we faced a difficult trip today.

Some of the "it's only Kilmarnock" comments are nonsense. They're a good team who play well on their home patch and better teams than us have struggled there.

If we'd got three points by Soaking up pressure, defending well and scoring with our only chance, nobody would be complaining.

Let’s be honest, the match was lost before it started today pitch no pitch. There must have been 5% of our support max confident having seen that team and thought we would win today. In fact, the assistant manager said we set up to draw with a club with a much, much less budget than us.

We didn’t even set up to draw with Celtic in Glasgow ffs!!

bingo70
01-12-2018, 09:55 PM
To be fair, I sort of agree with you.

Too much is made of the significance of the pitch there.

I was just using it to help emphasise that we faced a difficult trip today.

Some of the "it's only Kilmarnock" comments are nonsense. They're a good team who play well on their home patch and better teams than us have struggled there.

I think if we’d lost 2-1 today or 3-2.....possibly even 1 nil but gave it a good go people would be a lot more forgiving.

Imo it was the manner of the defeat that’s caused most of the anger on here tonight, I also know it’s been done to death but I really don’t think Lennon putting Parker forward for the post match media duties helped either.

There’s more fall out to come from this match Imo.

Smartie
01-12-2018, 09:56 PM
Playing two defenders in midfield was outrageous.

The mighty Killie with thier five thousand fans. We have 15000 and they have picked up more points than us. Tells me lots is wrong at ER.

Which 2?

Milligan and Ambrose?

Milligan has played more for us in midfield than defence, it's incorrect to call him a defender.

Many people have called for Ambrose to play in midfield.

We've been losing the midfield battle every week, he had to try something, and with the players he had missing he almost had to play a defender in there.

I disagreed with the team and I'm not surprised it didn't work.

The worrying thing is, it us hard to come up with suggestions that would do any better.

And as long as Hanlon carries on the way he did for the first goal today and for both goals last week we'll lose every game.

BoomtownHibees
01-12-2018, 09:58 PM
Playing two defenders in midfield was outrageous.

The mighty Killie with thier five thousand fans. We have 15000 and they have picked up more points than us. Tells me lots is wrong at ER.

If only it was the fans playing

Smartie
01-12-2018, 10:00 PM
I think if we’d lost 2-1 today or 3-2.....possibly even 1 nil but gave it a good go people would be a lot more forgiving.

Imo it was the manner of the defeat that’s caused most of the anger on here tonight, I also know it’s been done to death but I really don’t think Lennon putting Parker forward for the post match media duties helped either.

There’s more fall out to come from this match Imo.

It's easy to say after the event, but we're coming off a lousy run of form where results and performances have been poor. We don't have a huge quantity of creative players to allow us to "have a go".

We have a few decent defenders so he probably thought shutting up shop was the best way to get something from the game. It didn't work, and losing such a bad, early goal always scuppers that sort of gameplan.

The 90+2
01-12-2018, 10:01 PM
It's easy to say after the event, but we're coming off a lousy run of form where results and performances have been poor. We don't have a huge quantity of creative players to allow us to "have a go".

We have a few decent defenders so he probably thought shutting up shop was the best way to get something from the game. It didn't work, and losing such a bad, early goal always scuppers that sort of gameplan.

Check the match thread. There was 3 pages on the team before the match started. Nothing to do with after the event. It was a ludicrous set up.

Smartie
01-12-2018, 10:05 PM
Check the match thread. There was 3 pages on the team before the match started. Nothing to do with after the event. It was a ludicrous set up.

Check the first 3 pages of the match thread and you'll read my thoughts on the matter at the time.

I put forward a couple of suggestions using the same personnel that would have made more sense to me.

Funnily enough I'm calmer about it after the event and with hindsight than I was before.

HibeeHibernian4
01-12-2018, 10:26 PM
This is the one of the lowest of the low comments I have ever read on Hibs.Net.
Would you dare say it to his face or indeed in a public setting where we can all see your face?

One of the lowest of the low comments? Good grief. :rolleyes:

From the account name alone I can see what your thoughts on him are.

Coward might be a bit of a strong word to use, but yes I would quite happily say it to his face, if he didn't send Parker to talk to me instead.

JimBHibees
01-12-2018, 11:07 PM
Neil Lennon a coward. :hilarious:hilarious

This place reeks to high heaven.

Hermit Crab
01-12-2018, 11:20 PM
Neil Lennon a coward. :hilarious:hilarious

This place reeks to high heaven.


To be fair he should have faced the media after todays shambolic setup and display, fans want answers from the man who picks the team.

truehibernian
01-12-2018, 11:21 PM
Neil Lennon a coward. :hilarious:hilarious

This place reeks to high heaven.

Definitely not a coward Jim but his head isn’t in the right place and from what I’m hearing his heart isn’t in it at present- I think the incident at Tynecastle affected him more than is being let on.

silverhibee
01-12-2018, 11:26 PM
OK, quit one job after being sent a viable bomb. Coward.

Don't think that was the reason he quit Celtc, more to do with him saying the Celtc board weren't meeting his ambitions for that club.

HibeeHibernian4
01-12-2018, 11:38 PM
Neil Lennon a coward. :hilarious:hilarious

This place reeks to high heaven.

Go on, say "LTYF", I can tell you're choking to. I'll be there at Accies next week, hopefully to see a Hibs win, but I'm not holding my breath.

Slim Shady
02-12-2018, 12:05 AM
Don't think that was the reason he quit Celtc, more to do with him saying the Celtc board weren't meeting his ambitions for that club.

Which is exactly where we are as fans. And in turn blaming the best manager we have had in years.

Truth is tho, we have a few Teflon dons, some of whom are collecting 6 figures from Hibernian and not even being quoted in this.

Until we remove Rod and STF we will always be in a position of fighting each other. Too many mirrors with smoke. No disparity.

neil7908
02-12-2018, 12:37 AM
Far too much is made about this horrible pitch.

Jesus, you’d think it was the moon they’re being asked to play on. Imo we’ve convinced ourselves we are only capable of playing on bowling greens, even then they need to be of a perfect size to suit us.

It’s a difficult away game, of course it is, but I’m guessing when we went there and win 3 nil last season we never went to ‘be defensive’ and it was the same pitch then.

This 100%. Same with Tynecastle. Yes the pitch is small and at Killie it's probably not ideal but plenty of teams go to these grounds and win.

After loving some of the attacking football we played the second half of last season Lennon seems to be resorting to a very negative style. The game at Tynecastle a month ago is a case in point - they had no fit strikers and we still didn't want to try and take the game to them.

I don't know what's happened to the team or the manager that put 6 past Hamilton. We look like a completely different club now.

Kilmarnock are playing really well under Clarke but that formation today was crazy. If Potter had lined up like that we'd be having an absolute field day on here, especially if they went on to lose 3-0.

SideBurns
02-12-2018, 08:36 AM
Neil Lennon picked a crap team today, picked a few questionable ones in recent weeks and looks to have had a poor transfer window.

He is not a coward.

Adversity at Celtic is defeat to Rangers or going a couple of games without a win whilst operating in a volatile goldfish bowl of a city. To suggest that he didn't face adversity there is almost as ridiculous as suggesting he didn't face adversity at Bolton, where he toughed out an impossible situation for a very long time.

The man who got us promoted after three years and led us to a good finish last season, playing some excellent football along the way deserves more support and respect than this.

I've a lot of admiration for Lennon, given what he has had to cope with while playing and managing in Scotland; it is deplorable, and the fact he is still here doesn't suggest cowardice. I prefer to think that he sends Parker to do the interviews in situations where he can't trust himself to keep the heid in front of cameras and reporters.

But if so then he wasn't the only one to lose the heid yesterday. It was a shocking team selection which got the performance it deserved. But the fans who travelled through certainly didn't deserve it. Last season was one of the most enjoyable I can remember but it was built on attacking, entertaining football - home and away. If yesterday's shambles signifies a change in approach then his popularity with the Hibs support will nosedive quickly.

NZ Green
02-12-2018, 11:54 AM
We got 67 points in the league last season after being newly promoted and got a place in Europe, that's pretty good management no matter how you look at it.

B.H.F.C
02-12-2018, 11:58 AM
We got 67 points in the league last season after being newly promoted and got a place in Europe, that's pretty good management no matter how you look at it.

Absolutely. But that’s in the past.

It isn’t happening at the moment for a variety of reasons. One of them being bad management.

JimBHibees
02-12-2018, 12:05 PM
Definitely not a coward Jim but his head isn’t in the right place and from what I’m hearing his heart isn’t in it at present- I think the incident at Tynecastle affected him more than is being let on.

Wouldnt surprise me and the results and performances have been in a tailspin since that game

BILLYHIBS
03-12-2018, 12:03 PM
Summed up the whole game for me

“What happened? “

“We got beat.”

Who needs Strachan? 😁

BILLYHIBS
04-12-2018, 04:41 PM
https://youtu.be/qu7nRSv7POM

Attack!Attack!Attack! Attack!

RossScott1991
04-12-2018, 05:26 PM
Disappointed not to hear from NL. Feel times like these need manager to explain, abit of direction to what we are going to do to rectify things.

California-Hibs
04-12-2018, 05:31 PM
Is it a non story or something to look into with Parker doing the post match at Killie and pre match for St Mirren?...

I'm wanting our usual Neil back to himself!

calumhibee1
04-12-2018, 05:33 PM
Is it a non story or something to look into with Parker doing the post match at Killie and pre match for St Mirren?...

I'm wanting our usual Neil back to himself!

Did NL not do the interview today?

lord bunberry
04-12-2018, 05:34 PM
Did NL not do the interview today?

No Parker did it. The link is a few posts back.

calumhibee1
04-12-2018, 05:42 PM
No Parker did it. The link is a few posts back.

So it is :aok:

Borderhibbie76
04-12-2018, 10:16 PM
Is this not a bit weird Lennon it doing any press duties?? Or am I reading too much into it?? Doesn't seem right to me

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BILLYHIBS
04-12-2018, 10:25 PM
Is this not a bit weird Lennon it doing any press duties?? Or am I reading too much into it?? Doesn't seem right to me

Sent from my SM-G950F using Tapatalk

Maybe he had a look on here and saw all the Neil Lennon threads and thought to himself not today you do it Gary then again GP did it on Saturday maybe Lenny thinks he will rise to the bait or say the wrong thing or maybe rightly in my opinion just angry :confused:

Speedway
04-12-2018, 10:37 PM
Or maybe the club are asking him not to do it.

BILLYHIBS
04-12-2018, 10:50 PM
Or maybe the club are asking him not to do it.
Sounds about right

basehibby
04-12-2018, 11:59 PM
Because Neil Lennon, in my opinion, is a coward when things get tough. He's never gone through any footballing adversity as a manager and come out the other side of it smiling. He will chuck in the towel.

Well that is, in my opinion, the ****ing idiot comment of the year - if not the century - take a ****ing bow **** for brains. Our manager has gone through a lot of **** which would have many running for cover. As well as (or perhaps partly because of) a vile hate campaign accompanied by death threats, he has suffered from depression and come out and shared it with the world for the common good. It may in fact be that he's fighting off a bit of the black dog right now - who knows - his team selection certainly was a bit strange on Saturday. Sign of a man distracted? Maybe - maybe not.

Depression would not be a let off for Neil Lennon as he still very much has a job to do at Hibs and he must do it well - VERY WELL - because the club is bigger than any individual and we deserve a manager at the top of his game and capable of delivering the goods. But the man is not a coward - very far from it - and you should be ashamed of the words you have used here.

California-Hibs
05-12-2018, 12:22 AM
Well that is, in my opinion, the ****ing idiot comment of the year - if not the century - take a ****ing bow **** for brains. Our manager has gone through a lot of **** which would have many running for cover. As well as (or perhaps partly because of) a vile hate campaign accompanied by death threats, he has suffered from depression and come out and shared it with the world for the common good. It may in fact be that he's fighting off a bit of the black dog right now - who knows - his team selection certainly was a bit strange on Saturday. Sign of a man distracted? Maybe - maybe not.

Depression would not be a let off for Neil Lennon as he still very much has a job to do at Hibs and he must do it well - VERY WELL - because the club is bigger than any individual and we deserve a manager at the top of his game and capable of delivering the goods. But the man is not a coward - very far from it - and you should be ashamed of the words you have used here.

Well said! Lennon a coward....what a load of absolute laughable garbage!!

monktonharp
05-12-2018, 12:51 AM
Neil Lennon picked a crap team today, picked a few questionable ones in recent weeks and looks to have had a poor transfer window.

He is not a coward.

Adversity at Celtic is defeat to Rangers or going a couple of games without a win whilst operating in a volatile goldfish bowl of a city. To suggest that he didn't face adversity there is almost as ridiculous as suggesting he didn't face adversity at Bolton, where he toughed out an impossible situation for a very long time.

The man who got us promoted after three years and led us to a good finish last season, playing some excellent football along the way deserves more support and respect than this.:agree:

monktonharp
05-12-2018, 12:54 AM
Setting a team up not to concede is fine.

We were playing away to a decent team on a horrible pitch.

To go with a particular game plan, even if it is a negative one, is fine by me.

For that game plan to be blown within minutes by one of your senior players failing to carry out the basics of that game plan is the dodgy bit.:agree:the majority on our bus agreed. we hoped to come hame wi a draw!! and that was before we got there.

HibeeHibernian4
05-12-2018, 01:06 AM
Well that is, in my opinion, the ****ing idiot comment of the year - if not the century - take a ****ing bow **** for brains. Our manager has gone through a lot of **** which would have many running for cover. As well as (or perhaps partly because of) a vile hate campaign accompanied by death threats, he has suffered from depression and come out and shared it with the world for the common good. It may in fact be that he's fighting off a bit of the black dog right now - who knows - his team selection certainly was a bit strange on Saturday. Sign of a man distracted? Maybe - maybe not.

Depression would not be a let off for Neil Lennon as he still very much has a job to do at Hibs and he must do it well - VERY WELL - because the club is bigger than any individual and we deserve a manager at the top of his game and capable of delivering the goods. But the man is not a coward - very far from it - and you should be ashamed of the words you have used here.

Well, I’m not. So there we are. I’m sure you enjoyed your moralising and bringing in aspects of Lennon’s life I made absolutely no allusions to.

monktonharp
05-12-2018, 01:50 AM
Or maybe the club are asking him not to do it.Maybe he's unwell ? I have been unwell. it's ******* when that happens

monktonharp
05-12-2018, 01:55 AM
Well that is, in my opinion, the ****ing idiot comment of the year - if not the century - take a ****ing bow **** for brains. Our manager has gone through a lot of **** which would have many running for cover. As well as (or perhaps partly because of) a vile hate campaign accompanied by death threats, he has suffered from depression and come out and shared it with the world for the common good. It may in fact be that he's fighting off a bit of the black dog right now - who knows - his team selection certainly was a bit strange on Saturday. Sign of a man distracted? Maybe - maybe not.

Depression would not be a let off for Neil Lennon as he still very much has a job to do at Hibs and he must do it well - VERY WELL - because the club is bigger than any individual and we deserve a manager at the top of his game and capable of delivering the goods. But the man is not a coward - very far from it - and you should be ashamed of the words you have used here.I don't like his comments ny more than you. It is a forum though, and he's entitled. still think he is way over the mark with some of his stuff. to call NEIL LENNON A COWARD IS MORE THAN OVER THE MARK IMHO.

DetroitHibs
05-12-2018, 07:17 AM
Wouldn't call him a coward, more of a big bairn at times. I didn't buy the excuse he was sick last year when Parker did all the interviews after the Hearts game last season and not buying it now. Sometimes you just have to come out and take it on the chin.

BILLYHIBS
05-12-2018, 07:35 AM
Wouldn't call him a coward, more of a big bairn at times. I didn't buy the excuse he was sick last year when Parker did all the interviews after the Hearts game last season and not buying it now. Sometimes you just have to come out and take it on the chin.

He has Depression a serious medical condition :confused:

DetroitHibs
05-12-2018, 08:22 AM
He has Depression a serious medical condition :confused:

So anytime we face adversity and things are going against us, Neil gets depressed and we can't question it or expect him to talk to the media or fans. If your willing to take the plaudits and praise, you have to be willing to answer the hard questions, depression or not.

BILLYHIBS
05-12-2018, 08:25 AM
So anytime we face adversity and things are going against us, Neil gets depressed and we can't question it or expect him to talk to the media or fans. If your willing to take the plaudits and praise, you have to be willing to answer the hard questions, depression or not.

:yawn:

Please refer to the other thread on this topic

Neil Lennon mental health and me

green day
05-12-2018, 08:35 AM
If we win tonight, wonder who will do the post match interview? :coffee:

DetroitHibs
05-12-2018, 08:39 AM
:yawn:

Please refer to the other thread on this topic

Neil Lennon mental health and me

I strongly disagree with the coward comments, that's very unfair and unjustified. I personally think everyone at the club should be held accountable, whether that's the players, board or even Neil Lennon.

Neil Lennon is our leader, he's the players leader and it's not a good sign to see your leader hiding from adversity.

BILLYHIBS
05-12-2018, 08:55 AM
I strongly disagree with the coward comments, that's very unfair and unjustified. I personally think everyone at the club should be held accountable, whether that's the players, board or even Neil Lennon.

Neil Lennon is our leader, he's the players leader and it's not a good sign to see your leader hiding from adversity.

Agree 100%

Unfortunate choice of word by the poster that made the “coward” comment but I am sure he was only trying to make a point

Sometimes people get ill an unfortunate fact of life if that is indeed the case on this occasion and that is why he has an Assistant

It might well be as another poster pointed out that due to recent run ins with the Authorities that the club have asked Lenny not to do any further interviews for the time being

Hopefully we will see Lenny again in front of the cameras smiling and cracking jokes after a few victories under our belt in the not too distant future

GGTTH