Winter transfer thread - repetitive discussion only (hardly any transfer news)

[tamig]

In my 30ish years attending Hibs games Allan, on his day, is without doubt one of the most gifted footballers i've seen. Has his stop start career stopped him playing at an even higher level, would have a sustained run of games over a number of seasons helped him produce this undoubted talent on a more consistent basis?

The move to WBA after a handful of games for Dundee Utd, his move to Celtic....were these in the best interest of his career or the highest offer on the table. His next move may well define what Scott Allan , as a footballer, will be remembered for.

Good post. I’ve been watching as far back as the Tornadoes and Scott Allan is right up there with the best I’ve seen. I don’t understand what people who describe him as average or aren’t that bothered if we sign him or not are seeing. Signing for us and getting on with playing would see him in the Scotland team before long imo. Hopefully his next move is to us.

[Hibeesmad]

I have a feeling he will end up at Aberdeen. I hope not but I can see it happening

[jeffers]

Good post. I’ve been watching as far back as the Tornadoes and Scott Allan is right up there with the best I’ve seen. I don’t understand what people who describe him as average or aren’t that bothered if we sign him or not are seeing. Signing for us and getting on with playing would see him in the Scotland team before long imo. Hopefully his next move is to us.

This for me though the Tornadoes were just before I starting watching Hibs. I often wonder if the comments about not wanting him and him being average are based on how he left us the first time, because I can’t undestand how anyone who has watched him in Hibs jersey doesn’t think he is a fantastic footballer.

[S4uzee]

I have a feeling he will end up at Aberdeen. I hope not but I can see it happening

I think he’ll end up at Rangers

[Scotty Leither]

He's a game changer, up there with Edwards, Latapy, and Macleod in my book. If there's a chance of this deal happening we should be busting a gut to get it done.

[matty_f]

He's a game changer, up there with Edwards, Latapy, and Macleod in my book. If there's a chance of this deal happening we should be busting a gut to get it done.

Agreed.

[Smartie]

Looking at the dundee defence with and without Hendry in it....
I thought the dundee defence got better when he left.
Celtic’s defence was better/is better without Hendry in it.

Just my thoughts obviously so waiting to be shot down now..

Unless Jack Hendry's mum posts on here, I wouldn't be expecting to be shot down.

[southsider]

One of my all Hibs moments is when he made mincemeat of a gers thug Black and caused him to be subbed. Magic Scotty, just brilliant.

[Bangkok Hibby]

Sorry what does his 'Mrs" have to do with anything ?

Surely it's obvious. If we're going to have crap players at least we can oggle their gorgeous wives :greengrin:greengrin:greengrin

[SeanWilson]

So what was the bad advice? Genuine question, by the way.Well, they should have advised him to let Hibs take up their option and continue being a star in the right colour or green, of course. [emoji4] I suppose, as you're alluding too, they got him a deal at Celtic, which has topped up his bank balance. However, if you look at the likes of SJM who was very methodical and respectful in the way he went about things, he continued plying his trade with us, consistently played out of his skin and got a move to arguably a bigger platform, playing week in and out and likely earning far more money. He clearly took some good advice, Allan pushed for the first big move that came his way and I'm not sure that'd have been the case had his representatives been a little more forward thinking.

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[southsider]

John should have stayed another year at Hibs then he would have got a Premiership team and not alsorans like Villa. Big club but been p@ss for years.

[Robbo6-2]

Lenny saying that no discussions have took place.

Either that isn't true or we are absolutely mental not trying to bring Allan back.

Whole thing seems strange to me.

[calumhibee1]

Lenny saying that no discussions have took place.

Either that isn't true or we are absolutely mental not trying to bring Allan back.

Whole thing seems strange to me.

Does seem strange. Signing him is a no brained so to not have attempted it would seem madness.

[hfc rd]

John should have stayed another year at Hibs then he would have got a Premiership team and not alsorans like Villa. Big club but been p@ss for years.


Reading the Villa forum, he has been their best player. Continues playing the same way he is, his performances will not go unnoticed and he’ll be in the EPL pretty soon I believe. I won’t be surprised if that is next season with someone like a Bournemouth, Brighton or someone similar.

[cardrosshibbe]

Greg Stewart 🤞

[southsider]

Reading the Villa forum, he has been their best player. Continues playing the same way he is, his performances will not go unnoticed and he’ll be in the EPL pretty soon I believe. I won’t be surprised if that is next season with someone like a Bournemouth, Brighton or someone similar.
Bigger clubs than those Everton, West Ham etc.

[CapitalGreen]

Bigger clubs than those Everton, West Ham etc.

Nice goal post shifting. He is much more likely to reach a higher level moving from Aston Villa than moving from Hibs.

[monarch]

John should have stayed another year at Hibs then he would have got a Premiership team and not alsorans like Villa. Big club but been p@ss for years.

In which case we would have received sweet FA for him at the end of his contract.

[ChrissyG1875]

John should have stayed another year at Hibs then he would have got a Premiership team and not alsorans like Villa. Big club but been p@ss for years.

As much as I would have loved him to stay for another season, I honestly think his stock was as high as it was ever going to get playing for us. Unless of course him staying would have got us into the europa group stages but given who Molde drew after us that was never going to happen.

Looking at it from his perspective, it would have been madness to stay. He’s moved to a massive club, on a lot of money no doubt and he’ll probably be playing epl football in 1 or 2 seasons with or without villa.


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[NORTHERNHIBBY]

John should have stayed another year at Hibs then he would have got a Premiership team and not alsorans like Villa. Big club but been p@ss for years.

He made the right choice to move to a bigger club at a higher standard but one that was not too much of a reach for him. His move to the EPL will be the same again.

[horseflesh]

John should have stayed another year at Hibs then he would have got a Premiership team and not alsorans like Villa. Big club but been p@ss for years.

Unless you proved yourself at Champions League level then not many Scottish Premier players are moving straight to the EPL. No need for these clubs to take a gamble

[eastcoasthibby]

Aan.should be our No.1 target on a 3 year deal make sure he knows we will be structuring our team set up and play around him. We need to start again somewhere, Mallan, Slivka, who are ours can play a bit, we then need a strong central holding midfielder, Bartley & Milligan will.do.short term. Gauld if there is any possibility would.also work.for us in a very productive footballing midfield to build on. So the board needs to get itself focussed on the next 2-3'seasons cos this one isnt going to be anything to get.excited about.

[truehibernian]

Aan.should be our No.1 target on a 3 year deal make sure he knows we will be structuring our team set up and play around him. We need to start again somewhere, Mallan, Slivka, who are ours can play a bit, we then need a strong central holding midfielder, Bartley & Milligan will.do.short term. Gauld if there is any possibility would.also work.for us in a very productive footballing midfield to build on. So the board needs to get itself focussed on the next 2-3'seasons cos this one isnt going to be anything to get.excited about.

Top 3/4 is still very achievable with a good, concerted effort, more additions will come in, and there is still the Scottish Cup ahead to try and win - plenty more football to get excited about this season, why write it off now ?

[Diclonius]

I'm not sure Lennon is as bothered about bringing Allan back as we are.

[BlackSheep]

I think he is playing his cards close to his chest. Remember in the Summer he said we hadn’t spoken to MacLaren then he signed not long after. Patience is needed. Like the stokes deal, things need tied up with Celtic before the ball can roll faster at Hibs.

[Zazu62]

I'm not sure Lennon is as bothered about bringing Allan back as we are.

Maybe Allan doesn’t want to come?

[jacomo]

As much as I would have loved him to stay for another season, I honestly think his stock was as high as it was ever going to get playing for us. Unless of course him staying would have got us into the europa group stages but given who Molde drew after us that was never going to happen.

Looking at it from his perspective, it would have been madness to stay. He’s moved to a massive club, on a lot of money no doubt and he’ll probably be playing epl football in 1 or 2 seasons with or without villa.


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:agree:

Very hard to say SJM made the wrong move. It’s working out very well for him.

[Lago]

I think he’ll end up at Rangers
I am not sure where he will end up but I don't think it will be Hibs.

[Haymaker]

:hyper

[hibsbollah]

I'm not sure Lennon is as bothered about bringing Allan back as we are.

I tend to agree, although there's no way if knowing for sure. Looking at Gauldinho on YouTube he does seem to have a similar game to Allan. It maybe that Neil has other bigger priorities with his budget; namely a striker or a Ambrose replacement.

[hibsbollah]

John should have stayed another year at Hibs then he would have got a Premiership team and not alsorans like Villa. Big club but been p@ss for years.

John has been discussed as being in a likely championship team of the year. He'll be in the top teir soon one way or another. Villas been a brilliant move.

[SouthMoroccoStu]

I'm not sure Lennon is as bothered about bringing Allan back as we are.

Personally I think Lennon is just keeping his cards close to his chest

Allan is still a Celtic and we can’t pursue him too publicly

Lennon knows what to expect from Allan and Allan knows what life at hibs is like under Lennon

If the rumours are to be believed, that Allan’s contract is to be terminated by Celtic, I would be amazed if we didn’t approach him with an offer

We won’t be the only interested party but why make him our publicly known number 1 target and risk getting egg on our face from a knock back

Time will tell on this one

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

:hyper

Enough of this bad patter.

[Hermit Crab]

Greg Stewart 🤞


What about him?

[Haymaker]

Enough of this bad patter.

Never.

[Hibernia&Alba]

Enough of this bad patter.

Whit bad patter? :hyper

[04Sauzee]

Is Moult injured or just not getting a game for P.N.E?

[bigwheel]

Is Moult injured or just not getting a game for P.N.E?

Was injured over Xmas period. Not sure about now

[Jones28]

Enough of this bad patter.

That smiley is the only thing worth reading on this thread.

[Diclonius]

Who reckons we'll have more new players than just Gauld in the squad for Saturday?

[Leitherhibs]

Who reckons we'll have more new players than just Gauld in the squad for Saturday?

Me, one more probably, two more possibly.

[JimBHibees]

I think we do need another central defender, Hanlon and McGregor have been injured a lot more than they normally are. Porteous is injured, and David Gray who might be used in that position if needed has been injured most of the season.

Milligan has been injured and now away with the national team, i'd say we are stretched at the back especially now Efe has gone.

Hendry in my opinion is struggling at Celtic, and i cant remember anything at all about him at Dundee, but i can see why we are interested in another defender.

I think Hendry would be a decent signing he has struggled at Celtic but has ability and very quick. Certainly need a defender with Efe leaving.

[Inconsequential]

I think Hendry would be a decent signing he has struggled at Celtic but has ability and very quick. Certainly need a defender with Efe leaving. Some are writing off Hendry already. He's rubbish etc. etc. If he came to Hibs on loan it's how he performs for Hibs and his situation is similar to Scott Allan. Allan's present circumstances don't seem to concern many but they are convinced he would be a great signing. Remember Efe wasn't exactly welcomed here with open arms by some. Time will tell who are great signings and who are not.

[#2 Double Tap]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaxB3hPGAKI

[Greenworld]

Some are writing off Hendry already. He's rubbish etc. etc. If he came to Hibs on loan it's how he performs for Hibs and his situation is similar to Scott Allan. Allan's present circumstances don't seem to concern many but they are convinced he would be a great signing. Remember Efe wasn't exactly welcomed here with open arms by some. Time will tell who are great signings and who are not.Hendry is not going to get a regular slot at Hibs so I don't see this happening.
Effe was a great highly experienced signing Hendry is just learning .

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[SirDavidsNapper]

Why would Hendry come to Hibs to sit on the bench? He can do that at Celtic

[number9dream]

Is Moult injured or just not getting a game for P.N.E?

Injured...and now they’ve signed Stockley, the former Aberdeen striker.

[Hibbyradge]

Why would Hendry come to Hibs to sit on the bench? He can do that at Celtic

Very good point.

[Sioux]

Why would Hendry come to Hibs to sit on the bench? He can do that at Celtic


Very good point.

It could also be said that NL won't be bringing him in just to sit on the bench.

[J-C]

It could also be said that NL won't be bringing him in just to sit on the bench.


Dear god, not the 3 at the back again :confused:

[SMAXXA]

It could also be said that NL won't be bringing him in just to sit on the bench.

It could also be said he’s not planning on bringing him in at all

[Sioux]

It could also be said he’s not planning on bringing him in at all

Exactly

[Captain Trips]

i do not think we need to replace Efe at the back what we need is get in a player that should have been doing the attacking Efe was. Gauld may well be the man.

[Hibbyradge]

It could also be said he’s not planning on bringing him in at all

It could also be said that he's bringing him in to be played out of position at centre forward.

That's the most likely.

[GreenNWhiteArmy]

Would hope we could get a winger in before the weekend? Not essential for Elgin but to give them a chance to train with us ahead of motherwell?

Same applies for a striker i suppose

[1van Sprou7e]

Dear god, not the 3 at the back again :confused:

Hasn't worked so well this season but we went on one of our best runs of form in living memory with 3 at the back last year

[J-C]

Hasn't worked so well this season but we went on one of our best runs of form in living memory with 3 at the back last year

Mainly due to having the best midfield in the country which we haven't this season. 3 at the back relies on dynamic wingbacks, something we don't really have, if Gray gets injured it's only Whittaker who has zero pace. 4 at the back with a solid DM sitting in front suits our squad.

[BlackSheep]

Mainly due to having the best midfield in the country which we haven't this season. 3 at the back relies on dynamic wingbacks, something we don't really have, if Gray gets injured it's only Whittaker who has zero pace. 4 at the back with a solid DM sitting in front suits our squad.

We probably need more squad coverage to achieve success with this back line but what a back line it could be:-

Gray Porteus McGregor Hanlon Stevenson/Mackie

With Gray and Stevenson/Mackie as wingbacks.

Right now if any of those gets injured/suspended then we need to change shape and therefor tactics, which has been our downfall this season so far... inconsistent squad availability.

[BlackSheep]

On another note... seems Martin O'Neill is in the frame to become the Forest manager.... i wonder if he will fancy Cummings?

[SANH 1875]

On another note... seems Martin O'Neill is in the frame to become the Forest manager.... i wonder if he will fancy Cummings?

Best to leave his sex life out of it

[BlackSheep]

Best to leave his sex life out of it
:faf:

:rolleyes:

[percy veer]

Anyone else think Celtic will drag any loan deals with us to the end of the window then shaft us last minute

[Springbank]

Anyone else think Celtic will drag any loan deals with us to the end of the window then shaft us last minute

Best to leave their sex lives out of it

[Stokesy's on fire]

I have a feeling he will end up at Aberdeen. I hope not but I can see it happening

What a shame for him if he does tin pot club

[Stokesy's on fire]

On another note... seems Martin O'Neill is in the frame to become the Forest manager.... i wonder if he will fancy Cummings?


depends on what hair style he has at the moment

[Speedway]

What a shame for him if he does tin pot club

With a lot more money than Hibs.

[Borderhibbie76]

Hasn't worked so well this season but we went on one of our best runs of form in living memory with 3 at the back last yearWe don't have the midfield to support it though this year as has been proven with the results. Unless there are more midfielders on the way... which I hope there are...

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[Heisenberg]

Tam McManus giving a wee tease on Twitter about Micah Richards being a good signing for someone on loan. Could be us. Might not be us. Struggling for rumours so it’ll do for now.

[04Sauzee]

Tam McManus giving a wee tease on Twitter about Micah Richards being a good signing for someone on loan. Could be us. Might not be us. Struggling for rumours so it’ll do for now.

Someone mentioned him a few weeks ago, hasn't played football in an age though

[calumhibee1]

Tam McManus giving a wee tease on Twitter about Micah Richards being a good signing for someone on loan. Could be us. Might not be us. Struggling for rumours so it’ll do for now.

He could be an unreal signing but then again he hasn’t played in so long that he could be horrendous. I’d doubt we’re in for him tbh.

[PatHead]

In Edinburgh airport just now. Can't see anyone remotely like a footballer. If we are signing any of the folk in spoons just now we are in real trouble.

[JimBHibees]

Dear god, not the 3 at the back again :confused:

Has it really been any worse than any of the other systems we have tried this season? :greengrin

[04Sauzee]

Tam McManus giving a wee tease on Twitter about Micah Richards being a good signing for someone on loan. Could be us. Might not be us. Struggling for rumours so it’ll do for now.

Lots of talk on social media that it's Celtic

[JimBHibees]

He could be an unreal signing but then again he hasn’t played in so long that he could be horrendous. I’d doubt we’re in for him tbh.

Is he not always injured if so he should fit right in? :greengrin

[calumhibee1]

Is he not always injured if so he should fit right in? :greengrin

I’m not actually sure it’s an injury that has kept him from playing.. could be wrong though.

[Oscar T Grouch]

I’m not actually sure it’s an injury that has kept him from playing.. could be wrong though.

According to Bruce, his lack of fitness was the problem, you'd assume the current Villa manager thinks the same given he is nowhere near the first team squad. He had a bad knee injury in his 2nd match in the Championship with Villa and has never regained his place or by the sounds of it his fitness. Big gamble for anyone to take him but a loan deal is probably best for him and Villa atm.

[jacomo]

In Edinburgh airport just now. Can't see anyone remotely like a footballer. If we are signing any of the folk in spoons just now we are in real trouble.


Excellent, stay put and await further instruction.

What do you mean you have a plane to catch?

[Hermit Crab]

In Edinburgh airport just now. Can't see anyone remotely like a footballer. If we are signing any of the folk in spoons just now we are in real trouble.


I was in Waverley earlier, never seen anyone remotely like a footballer either. Drove past several No 26 buses and didn't see any faces.

[HoboHarry]

In Edinburgh airport just now. Can't see anyone remotely like a footballer. If we are signing any of the folk in spoons just now we are in real trouble.
I bumped into Robert Fleck in an airport a few years back. Check and see if he is still there......

[Stokesy's on fire]

With a lot more money than Hibs.


And a crap stadium with no training facilities complete with a crap support.....sorry but Aberdeen are hardly loaded

[CraigHibee]

And a crap stadium with no training facilities complete with a crap support.....sorry but Aberdeen are hardly loaded

they have a wealthy person on the board that appears to be sticking his cash into them

[Lago]

What a shame for him if he does tin pot club
With more money than us apparently.

[The 90+2]

With more money than us apparently.

I've no idea how. And they have an out of town stadium to finance.

[JimBHibees]

I've no idea how. And they have an out of town stadium to finance.

Very wealthy I think Oil related benefactor ploughing money in. Was there not also a lotto winner doing the same.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/46541484

https://www.afc.co.uk/2018/09/11/afcs-community-sports-hub-and-training-facilities-secures-1m-of-new-investment/

[DJ HIBBY]

Is he not always injured if so he should fit right in? :greengrin

On £70k per week at Villa, unlikely we are in for him. He has 4 year deal with no relegation clause!

[The 90+2]

Very wealthy I think Oil related benefactor ploughing money in. Was there not also a lotto winner doing the same.

Is that the guy who is now vice-chairman? Is it from the good of his heart or business related?

[JimBHibees]

Is that the guy who is now vice-chairman? Is it from the good of his heart or business related?

Not sure put a couple of links in my previous post he seems to have a US colleague also investing.

They do have a lot to spend on though with new stadium etc.

[The 90+2]

Not sure put a couple of links in my previous post he seems to have a US colleague also investing.

They do have a lot to spend on though with new stadium etc.


Thanks, love of the club first and foremost then. Lucky bassas. :greengrin

[eastcoasthibby]

We probably need more squad coverage to achieve success with this back line but what a back line it could be:-

Gray Porteus McGregor Hanlon Stevenson/Mackie

With Gray and Stevenson/Mackie as wingbacks.

Right now if any of those gets injured/suspended then we need to change shape and therefor tactics, which has been our downfall this season so far... inconsistent squad availability.

Is Nelom not still with us as well that guy has the credentials to do a job for us ....but not seen much and ut does take time to adjust to this league ..!!

[JimBHibees]

Is Nelom not still with us as well that guy has the credentials to do a job for us ....but not seen much and ut does take time to adjust to this league ..!!

One year deal, could really do with him contributing much more.

[BlackSheep]

Is Nelom not still with us as well that guy has the credentials to do a job for us ....but not seen much and ut does take time to adjust to this league ..!!

Yes he is still with us.... he favours left back/left wing back though and i see Mackie as a better prospect than Nelom right now. If he is happy to play on the right then, he could cover there. Also we have Milligan who could cover in CB but a bit more depth is definitely needed to maintain a 3 at the back formation.

[Unseen work]

Would like to see us signs Greg Stewart.

Surely he wouldn’t go back to Aberdeen where he only started half there games last season and clearly never fancied him for this season.

Only stumbling block is Birmingham want the 400k the paid for him back

[Aldo]

Would like to see us signs Greg Stewart.

Surely he wouldn’t go back to Aberdeen where he only started half there games last season and clearly never fancied him for this season.

Only stumbling block is Birmingham want the 400k the paid for him back

I’m sure Stewart’s current contract runs out this summer and is therefore free to talk to any club and potentially sign a pre contract.

They may struggle to recoup all of that imho


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[The 90+2]

I’m sure Stewart’s current contract runs out this summer and is therefore free to talk to any club and potentially sign a pre contract.

They may struggle to recoup all of that imho


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Birmingham have recalled him to sell him if they can if not they will loan him again. He's not in the managers plans at all. They will probably see a pre-contract then selling him to that team or loaning them him with more of a wages contribution as a result.

[Aldo]

Birmingham have recalled him to sell him if they can if not they will loan him again. He's not in the managers plans at all. They will probably see a pre-contract then selling him to that team or loaning them him with more of a wages contribution as a result.

They would be daft not to do that tbh. He is their player!


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[erin go bragh]

Would like to see us signs Greg Stewart.

Surely he wouldn’t go back to Aberdeen where he only started half there games last season and clearly never fancied him for this season.

Only stumbling block is Birmingham want the 400k the paid for him back
We could sign him on a pre contract and offer Birmingham 100k to get him in this window.

[Hibernian32]

Are we even involved in this window? Will we have a couple new faces before Saturday? Very very dry business from us so far it's annoying

[Here’s Lucy!]

Are we even involved in this window? Will we have a couple new faces before Saturday? Very very dry business from us so far it's annoying

I doubt there will be any before Saturday, but surely there will be some before the end of the month?

Fingers crossed!!

[Lago]

I doubt there will be any before Saturday, but surely there will be some before the end of the month?

Fingers crossed!!
There better be or this place will go into melt down, so far we have a 6 month loan who has basically spent 5/6 years playing in the lower leagues of Portuguese football. Looking for more.

[Here’s Lucy!]

There better be or this place will go into melt down, so far we have a 6 month loan who has basically spent 5/6 years playing in the lower leagues of Portuguese football. Looking for more.

Absolutely!

[MSK]

I was in Waverley earlier, never seen anyone remotely like a footballer either. Drove past several No 26 buses and didn't see any faces.I was in RIE today, saw loads o guys on crutches, thought, possible signings 🤭

[Here’s Lucy!]

I was in RIE today, saw loads o guys on crutches, thought, possible signings 🤭

No good.

They're all Hearts players!!:greengrin

[bod]

There better be or this place will go into melt down, so far we have a 6 month loan who has basically spent 5/6 years playing in the lower leagues of Portuguese football. Looking for more.

doubt the board will be bothered by whats posted on this site

[Here’s Lucy!]

doubt the board is bothered.

That better?
:cb

[CallumLaidlaw]

I don’t think there’s any chance of us having more bodies in for Saturday. I think we’re playing the long game on a few decent additions so may take till the end of the window to get them done. Just hope it doesn’t leave us short.


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[DetroitHibs]

It's mind boggling how we don't have all our ducks in a row before the window opens, and just get business done early. Having at least 2-3 bodies able to train with the players and gel should be crucial.

[Here’s Lucy!]

It's mind boggling how we don't have all our ducks in a row before the window opens, and just get business done early. Having at least 2-3 bodies able to train with the players and gel should be crucial.

This could either move onto a board bashing thread or a Neil Lennon bashing thread. I hope neither.

[Stokesy's on fire]

they have a wealthy person on the board that appears to be sticking his cash into them

yet they have a poor squad...Aberdeen have a new stadium to try and finance. This rich guy they have has hardly signed them anyone who makes them title contenders. Aberdeen are more than there for that taking and even their support has accused the board of lacking intent. Stewart Milne is a tight backside.

[1van Sprou7e]

It's mind boggling how we don't have all our ducks in a row before the window opens, and just get business done early. Having at least 2-3 bodies able to train with the players and gel should be crucial.

If only it was that simple

[SquashedFrogg]

It's mind boggling how we don't have all our ducks in a row before the window opens, and just get business done early. Having at least 2-3 bodies able to train with the players and gel should be crucial.

But sometimes ducks have other ponds to chose from. And like to take their time chosing which one to swim in.

I'm assuming it's the boards fault? Or Lennon's?

[bod]

It's mind boggling how we don't have all our ducks in a row before the window opens, and just get business done early. Having at least 2-3 bodies able to train with the players and gel should be crucial.

Maybe the ducks are within the last 6 months of their contracts & are waiting from an improved offer from A few clubs ,rather than sign for the 1st club that talks to them

[Speedway]

It's mind boggling how we don't have all our ducks in a row before the window opens, and just get business done early. Having at least 2-3 bodies able to train with the players and gel should be crucial.

It’s also mind boggling that no matter how often the club explains the process to the fans, we still can’t grab how the process works.

[Lago]

But sometimes ducks have other ponds to chose from. And like to take their time chosing which one to swim in.

I'm assuming it's the boards fault? Or Lennon's?
Bit like checking out the proverbial sweetie poke😁

[Lago]

It’s also mind boggling that no matter how often the club explains the process to the fans, we still can’t grab how the process works.
Because it never works the way they explain it.

[Speedway]

Because it never works the way they explain it.

Certainly so. The expectation that we sign everyone we want in the first week is also not how it works.

If it was, it would be a one week transfer window with all clubs having got their business done straight away.

[SquashedFrogg]

Bit like checking out the proverbial sweetie poke😁

Lol Exactly

[HoboHarry]

Ach we could have some of Dundee's luck - signed Andrew Davies and 4 days later he's gone and broken his foot......

[Leith's finest]

Ach we could have some of Dundee's luck - signed Andrew Davies and 4 days later he's gone and broken his foot......

We done the same with daryl duffy a few year ago

[Stonewall]

Because it never works the way they explain it.

Expand on that please.

[Smartie]

Ach we could have some of Dundee's luck - signed Andrew Davies and 4 days later he's gone and broken his foot......

Seemingly we've transferred our terrible injury record over to Dundee in exchange for bucketloads of cash coming our way.

It's a bit like that time we gave them Alex Harris for Martin Boyle.

[Northern Hibby]

In Edinburgh airport just now. Can't see anyone remotely like a footballer. If we are signing any of the folk in spoons just now we are in real trouble.

Haha past through Edinburgh airport this morning heading to East Midlands airport and I thought the very same 😂

[SMAXXA]

Seemingly we've transferred our terrible injury record over to Dundee in exchange for bucketloads of cash coming our way.

It's a bit like that time we gave them Alex Harris for Martin Boyle.

That’s got to be one of the best bits of business we have done Be Interested to hear from a Dundee point of view

[Lago]

Expand on that please.
Self explanatory.

[BILLYHIBS]

Bit like checking out the proverbial sweetie poke😁

This whole thread is like a box of chocolates

You never know what you are going to get!

[Northern Hibby]

This whole thread is like a box of chocolates

You never know what you are going to get!

A bit like our transfer window in general then 😁

[calumhibee1]

That’s got to be one of the best bits of business we have done Be Interested to hear from a Dundee point of view

I remember seeing a Dundee fan on Facebook who was delighted. Martin Boyle was the worst player he’d ever seen apparently.

[oldbutdim]

But sometimes ducks have other ponds to chose from. And like to take their time chosing which one to swim in.

I'm assuming it's the boards fault? Or Lennon's?


It depends upon the size of the duck's bill.

Waddle we do when we don't have Petrie to quack up about?

[1875godsgift]

It depends upon the size of the duck's bill.

Waddle we do when we don't have Petrie to quack up about?

You mean a bit feather down the line?

[WeeRussell]

You mean a bit feather down the line?

You speaking pigeon English?

[Haymaker]

:hyper

[HoboHarry]

You speaking pigeon English?
Haw you a pigeon isnae a duck. Stop being a loon......

[Heisenberg]

Making a bid for Craig Bryson apparently. Long term contract for a 32 year old might not be too clever but he’s evidently still a good player at a good level as he’s played for Derby recently.

https://bit.ly/2AL5GXU

[calumhibee1]

Making a bid for Craig Bryson apparently. Long term contract for a 32 year old might not be too clever but he’s evidently still a good player at a good level as he’s played for Derby recently.

https://bit.ly/2AL5GXU

Would seem like a good signing for a season or two but I wouldn’t want to see him given a long term deal. If that’s what it’ll take to get him then we should pass imo.

[Heisenberg]

Would seem like a good signing for a season or two but I wouldn’t want to see him given a long term deal. If that’s what it’ll take to get him then we should pass.

Depends what his fitness is like. There have been midfielders in this league who have played till 35/36. He’s a cut above any of our current midfield by a long way. There will be quite a lot of competition for him I’d imagine. Could see Killie making a move as well.

[SMAXXA]

Got to remember players are in a different condition these days he’s playing every week in the championship and is a fit lad. He could easily play I to his 35/36 and do a job up here. Not saying that’s the length of deal we would give but he would be great experience and a really good player.

[04Sauzee]

Making a bid for Craig Bryson apparently. Long term contract for a 32 year old might not be too clever but he’s evidently still a good player at a good level as he’s played for Derby recently.

https://bit.ly/2AL5GXU
Played alot of games for Derby this season he played as recently as Friday against Leeds

[bookert]

Played alot of games for Derby this season he played as recently as Friday against Leeds

Yes and got a roasting by the young Leeds winger Clarke.

[bingo70]

Making a bid for Craig Bryson apparently. Long term contract for a 32 year old might not be too clever but he’s evidently still a good player at a good level as he’s played for Derby recently.

https://bit.ly/2AL5GXU

I’m not one for judging players by their age as everybody is different but imo what we need is a tenacious energetic midfielder, probably exactly what Bryson was in his day but as he gets older he’s more likely to start sitting a bit deeper, I don’t think that’s what we need. Bartley and Milligan are both sitting defensive midfielders that like to play just in front of the defence to protect them, we don’t need another one like that so if we do go for him I hope he’s still a box to box player.

In terms of the length of the deal, i don’t think it’s negative to say Lennon probably won’t be here in 2 or 3 years so I’m not sure he should be hanging that length contracts to players of that age who won’t have any sell on value. Different if he was younger and being offered a long term deal.

[bingo70]

Yes and got a roasting by the young Leeds winger Clarke.

He’s not a full back is he?

I didn’t see the game but I read on Twitter it was the guy who was on loan at Aberdeen earlier in the season that got a roasting from
The Leeds winger.

[04Sauzee]

Yes and got a roasting by the young Leeds winger Clarke.

He did for the first goal. Better players than Bryson will get done by Clarke.

Not sure there is anything in the Bryson story

[Diclonius]

Bryson would be pretty decent.

[SirDavidsNapper]

Making a bid for Craig Bryson apparently. Long term contract for a 32 year old might not be too clever but he’s evidently still a good player at a good level as he’s played for Derby recently.

https://bit.ly/2AL5GXU

Nothing on that article about Bryson 🤔

[Juniper Greens]

Nothing on that article about Bryson 🤔

Scroll down and click the link in the grey box. Full article on him

[calumhibee1]

Nothing on that article about Bryson 🤔

It’s below the main article.

[Heisenberg]

Nothing on that article about Bryson 🤔

Aye it’s not the best link to use. Scroll down and there’s a bit in there stating the express are reporting it.

[Robbo6-2]

He's still playing at a good level and performing well but it would worry me if we were gonna offer another long term deal to a 32+ year old player.

We have enough older experianced players in squad all ready. What we need is young hungry players looking to make a point imo

[Gordy M]

This is the market we are in, we are not going to sign a young player playing in the Championship on a long term contract. We either have to take 'better' players on loan or sign young ineperienced players who may or not make the grade. The other option are good players who are coming towards the end of their careers eg Craig Bryson. All the scottish teams outwith the old firm are in the same boat.

[IGRIGI]

Bryson, Milligan, Whittaker, we could have our very own Still Game midfield.

[calumhibee1]

This is the market we are in, we are not going to sign a young player playing in the Championship on a long term contract. We either have to take 'better' players on loan or sign young ineperienced players who may or not make the grade. The other option are good players who are coming towards the end of their careers eg Craig Bryson. All the scottish teams outwith the old firm are in the same boat.

I don’t disagree with that. The problem for me though is that we already have Gray, Stevenson, Daz, Milligan, Whittaker and Bartley who are approaching the twilight of their careers. Having a couple is fine but we seem to be gathering a lot of older players in our squad.

[SouthMoroccoStu]

Nothing on that article about Bryson 🤔

"Hibs have entered the race for Derby County’sCraig Bryson, according to reports.

The Rams midfielder - who is also on Rangers radar - is out of contract in the summer. And despite being a regular under Frank Lampard the player is understood to be keen on a move home to Scotland.

That has alerted Neil Lennon who reckons the 32-year-old would beef up his midfield and add much needed experience.

According to the Express, Lennon is prepared to offer Bryson a long-term deal in a bid to lure him north of the border.

We told last week how Rangers were interested in Bryson. And Sunderland could also make a move."

[Souter96Mac]

Bryson would be a quality signing.

[Big_Franck]

Bryson would be a quality signing.

Sounds like the Derby fans think he's finished. Link here (https://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2019/01/13/some-derby-fans-slate-craig-brysons-display-after-rangers-links/).

Wouldn't be against signing him on a short term deal though, 18 months max if Lennon think he's still got it. We should absolutely not be doing a Whittaker here though.

[Heisenberg]

Seems like Sunderland are after him as well. Have we been linked to a player in the last year that hasn’t had “Sunderland are also interested” alongside it? Jack Ross can get himself to ****.

[BILLYHIBS]

Seems like Sunderland are after him as well. Have we been linked to a player in the last year that hasn’t had “Sunderland are also interested” alongside it? Jack Ross can get himself to ****.

Agree! Would not be surprised if he is in for Jack Hendry of Celtic as well!

:faf:

[bingo70]

Sounds like the Derby fans think he's finished. Link here (https://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2019/01/13/some-derby-fans-slate-craig-brysons-display-after-rangers-links/).

Wouldn't be against signing him on a short term deal though, 18 months max if Lennon think he's still got it. We should absolutely not be doing a Whittaker here though.

I agree.

I think there’s a danger that we think anyone that’s had a career down south is automatically better than what we have up here.

I would much rather try to sign up and coming players with their careers on the way up than older guys stringing out their careers for as long as possible.

He’d be on a tidy wage I bet, I’d prefer It if we didn’t sign him and instead offered a decent deal for a Pittman or Byrne at Livi, even Shankland at Ayr although I know he’s a different position, there’s a young guy at Patrick that’s apparently attracting a lot of interest. Let’s try and get these kind of players in.

[Diclonius]

Seems like Sunderland are after him as well. Have we been linked to a player in the last year that hasn’t had “Sunderland are also interested” alongside it? Jack Ross can get himself to ****.

Seriously though, does Jack Ross have something against Lennon, Hibs or both? Sunderland suddenly being interested in a player we're after or one of our players is coming up too much to be a coincidence now, surely.

[RossScott1991]

It's a no from me in regards to Craig Bryson tbh. Our midfield has lacked spark, and creativity. We don't need experience veteran in there. Marv and Milligan are passable for sitting midfielders. Slivka provides the athleticism.

We need to sprinkle creative dust in midfield along with pace. Winger and another Gauld type player required imo.

So pass on Bryson, giving Whittaker a 3 year deal was horrendous business. The players gain everything from such deals while we get footballers on the decline.

If lennon wants that type of player id rather the boy at livi

[Michael]

Seriously though, does Jack Ross have something against Lennon, Hibs or both? Sunderland suddenly being interested in a player we're after or one of our players is coming up too much to be a coincidence now, surely.

Another manager wants to sign players to improve his side. Obviously he knows the Scottish game well, so it's hardly surprising.

[SirDavidsNapper]

"Hibs have entered the race for Derby County’sCraig Bryson, according to reports.

The Rams midfielder - who is also on Rangers radar - is out of contract in the summer. And despite being a regular under Frank Lampard the player is understood to be keen on a move home to Scotland.

That has alerted Neil Lennon who reckons the 32-year-old would beef up his midfield and add much needed experience.

According to the Express, Lennon is prepared to offer Bryson a long-term deal in a bid to lure him north of the border.

We told last week how Rangers were interested in Bryson. And Sunderland could also make a move."

:aok:

[hibbyfraelibby]

In Greggs on Easter Road. No sign of any gallus wee characters with dodgy hairdos ordering cheese and onion pasties. Doesn't look like any transger business getting done today...😏

[SirDavidsNapper]

Seriously though, does Jack Ross have something against Lennon, Hibs or both? Sunderland suddenly being interested in a player we're after or one of our players is coming up too much to be a coincidence now, surely.

I'm starting to wonder. They're clearly shopping in the same market as us, Hearts and Aberdeen. They signed McLaughlan, Ozturk and that big glaikit defender who has just left Hearts and obviously Dylan.

[Big_Franck]

I agree.

I think there’s a danger that we think anyone that’s had a career down south is automatically better than what we have up here.

I would much rather try to sign up and coming players with their careers on the way up than older guys stringing out their careers for as long as possible.

He’d be on a tidy wage I bet, I’d prefer It if we didn’t sign him and instead offered a decent deal for a Pittman or Byrne at Livi, even Shankland at Ayr although I know he’s a different position, there’s a young guy at Patrick that’s apparently attracting a lot of interest. Let’s try and get these kind of players in.

Totally agree. I've liked the look of both Pittman and Byrne when I've seen them for Livi.

From what I've seen of Bryson he isn't really what we are crying out for in midfield though - energy, drive and creativity. At least it's a new rumour though :greengrin

[Gordy M]

I don’t disagree with that. The problem for me though is that we already have Gray, Stevenson, Daz, Milligan, Whittaker and Bartley who are approaching the twilight of their careers. Having a couple is fine but we seem to be gathering a lot of older players in our squad.
Yeh i agree, was just pointing out its not just as easy as going out and signing these good up and coming young players, they are also a gamble....Mallan, Slivka, Hyndman etc.

[Ozyhibby]

Bryson would be a terrible signing, especially on a long term deal. His legs have already gone which is why he has only played 5 games this season. I’m sure someone will mention the age we signed Sauzee but let’s face it, Craig Bryson was never the player Sauzee was. We will regret this signing.
We’ll soon be providing more pensions than Standard Life.
Hopefully this is all nonsense. If not it shows we are not learning.


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[04Sauzee]

Bryson would be a terrible signing, especially on a long term deal. His legs have already gone which is why he has only played 5 games this season. I’m sure someone will mention the age we signed Sauzee but let’s face it, Craig Bryson was never the player Sauzee was. We will regret this signing.
We’ll soon be providing more pensions than Standard Life.
Hopefully this is all nonsense. If not it shows we are not learning.


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Has Bryson really only played 5 games for Derby this season?

[B.H.F.C]

Bryson would be a terrible signing, especially on a long term deal. His legs have already gone which is why he has only played 5 games this season. I’m sure someone will mention the age we signed Sauzee but let’s face it, Craig Bryson was never the player Sauzee was. We will regret this signing.
We’ll soon be providing more pensions than Standard Life.
Hopefully this is all nonsense. If not it shows we are not learning.


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Bryson has played for Derby most weeks this season.

[Heisenberg]

Bryson would be a terrible signing, especially on a long term deal. His legs have already gone which is why he has only played 5 games this season. I’m sure someone will mention the age we signed Sauzee but let’s face it, Craig Bryson was never the player Sauzee was. We will regret this signing.
We’ll soon be providing more pensions than Standard Life.
Hopefully this is all nonsense. If not it shows we are not learning.


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He’s played 19 championship games this season. Two goals and two assists. Also played a couple of cup games.

He’d instantly become our best midfielder if he signed.

[Gordy M]

Bryson would be a terrible signing, especially on a long term deal. His legs have already gone which is why he has only played 5 games this season. I’m sure someone will mention the age we signed Sauzee but let’s face it, Craig Bryson was never the player Sauzee was. We will regret this signing.
We’ll soon be providing more pensions than Standard Life.
Hopefully this is all nonsense. If not it shows we are not learning.


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Played 22 games this season

[My_Wife_Camille]

Has Bryson really only played 5 games for Derby this season?
Not quite. He’s played 21, started 19 and played the full 90. 17 times.

I’d be ok with the signing but it’s the long term deal that worries me a bit. I’m all for having experienced players in the team but at this rate we’d only be an injury or suspension away from a midfield of Bryson, Milligan, Bartley and Whittaker which is a terrifying thought.

[number9dream]

Why would Derby be releasing one of their regular starters midway through the season?

[CallumLaidlaw]

Why would Derby be releasing one of their regular starters midway through the season?

It would be a pre contract for next season


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[RossScott1991]

What worries me is it's very much a lennon signing.

Every year with Lennon the transfer policy is short term fixes, less building for 2/3 seasons unlike majority stubbs signings.

Always feels like we are swimming towards the tide at times with NL. Loans /Short term loans, Holt / Milligan / Commons aging. 2 January windows in a row required to 'Save our season' NL leaves tomorrow he would leave the next manager a poor squad needing surgery in the summer all over again.

It's my biggest grumble with him. There needs to be a vision/structure in getting youth and experience right and start pushing boat out for signings tied down long term. Board too of course.

Just my opinion

[BoomtownHibees]

Bryson would be a terrible signing, especially on a long term deal. His legs have already gone which is why he has only played 5 games this season. I’m sure someone will mention the age we signed Sauzee but let’s face it, Craig Bryson was never the player Sauzee was. We will regret this signing.
We’ll soon be providing more pensions than Standard Life.
Hopefully this is all nonsense. If not it shows we are not learning.


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You just made all that up though but don’t let that get in the way of you having a moan

[BILLYHIBS]

It would be a pre contract for next season


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I would be reluctant to take him just now but if as you say it is a precontract for next season it is a no!

We need players in now

As others have said young hungry players with potential that want to be here

Cmon HIBS !

[Peevemor]

What worries me is it's very much a lennon signing.

Every year with Lennon the transfer policy is short term fixes, less building for 2/3 seasons unlike majority stubbs signings.

Always feels like we are swimming towards the tide at times with NL. Loans /Short term loans, Holt / Milligan / Commons aging. 2 January windows in a row required to 'Save our season' NL leaves tomorrow he would leave the next manager a poor squad needing surgery in the summer all over again.

It's my biggest grumble with him. There needs to be a vision/structure in getting youth and experience right and start pushing boat out for signings tied down long term. Board too of course.

Just my opinion

Sorry, but I can't agree.

About half the first team squad are contracted until at least 2021, with some even longer.

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/hibernian-fc/kader/verein/903

[B.H.F.C]

What worries me is it's very much a lennon signing.

Every year with Lennon the transfer policy is short term fixes, less building for 2/3 seasons unlike majority stubbs signings.

Always feels like we are swimming towards the tide at times with NL. Loans /Short term loans, Holt / Milligan / Commons aging. 2 January windows in a row required to 'Save our season' NL leaves tomorrow he would leave the next manager a poor squad needing surgery in the summer all over again.

It's my biggest grumble with him. There needs to be a vision/structure in getting youth and experience right and start pushing boat out for signings tied down long term. Board too of course.

Just my opinion

He also has Porteous playing every week. Shaw playing often. And Mackie emerging now.

Mallan and Kamberi are both young and signed for big fees (by our standards) on long term deals. Slivka was another signed long term.

Some of the older players have already started to phase out. I can’t see all of Bartley, Gray and McGregor being here next year.

[SirDavidsNapper]

Totally agree. I've liked the look of both Pittman and Byrne when I've seen them for Livi.

From what I've seen of Bryson he isn't really what we are crying out for in midfield though - energy, drive and creativity. At least it's a new rumour though :greengrin

Yeah and they'll probably slip through the net and end up down south like Snodgrass and Dorrans and everyone will be asking why

[RossScott1991]

Sorry, but I can't agree.

About half the first team squad are contracted until at least 2021, with some even longer.

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/hibernian-fc/kader/verein/903

how many of the first team squad this season do you have total faith in? especially the midfielders? reason we are sitting here desperate for another 3/4 signings is because a lot of our 'first' team squad have been a let down this season.

[Ozyhibby]

Not quite. He’s played 21, started 19 and played the full 90. 17 times.

I’d be ok with the signing but it’s the long term deal that worries me a bit. I’m all for having experienced players in the team but at this rate we’d only be an injury or suspension away from a midfield of Bryson, Milligan, Bartley and Whittaker which is a terrifying thought.

Apologies, the stats I saw were obviously not up to date. However I still don’t think this is a good idea. Giving long term deals to players his age is poor squad management. We already have a lot of players past their best as it is.


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[JimBHibees]

I’m not one for judging players by their age as everybody is different but imo what we need is a tenacious energetic midfielder, probably exactly what Bryson was in his day but as he gets older he’s more likely to start sitting a bit deeper, I don’t think that’s what we need. Bartley and Milligan are both sitting defensive midfielders that like to play just in front of the defence to protect them, we don’t need another one like that so if we do go for him I hope he’s still a box to box player.

In terms of the length of the deal, i don’t think it’s negative to say Lennon probably won’t be here in 2 or 3 years so I’m not sure he should be hanging that length contracts to players of that age who won’t have any sell on value. Different if he was younger and being offered a long term deal.

Agree some of the concerns re age however he is exactly the type of energetic aggressive player we need. Playing at a better level than we are for most of this season. Have always liked him as a player and think he would be a great signing if still fit. The bottom line is we are unlikely to be able to get the quality we need in their prime it will either be an older player or a youngster with promise. Hope it goes through now rather than the summer.

[My_Wife_Camille]

Apologies, the stats I saw were obviously not up to date. However I still don’t think this is a good idea. Giving long term deals to players his age is poor squad management. We already have a lot of players past their best as it is.


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I can see the mistake you made I think, did you use Wikipedia by any chance!?

As a side note, it always gives me a giggle how often people on here accuse others of lying or making stuff up when they make an honest mistake. I’m pretty sure if someone was intent on making things up they’d come up with something that wasn’t so easy to prove incorrect.

[J-C]

The difference I see with Bryson compared to Milligan is Bryson has played as a very decent level since 2011, similar age but looking at the amount of games he's played ( 245 ) that's averaging 35 games per season, not bad at all and doesn't seem to any injury issues, well none that I can find going by the amount of games played anyway. If he's been looking after himself and been relatively injury free he could still play at a very decent level for at least another 3 years, his professionalism will be good for the club and foe the youngsters coming through, just look at Whittaker and how he's been mentoring the younger players.

[Bobby's Cinema]

What worries me is it's very much a lennon signing.

Every year with Lennon the transfer policy is short term fixes, less building for 2/3 seasons unlike majority stubbs signings.

Always feels like we are swimming towards the tide at times with NL. Loans /Short term loans, Holt / Milligan / Commons aging. 2 January windows in a row required to 'Save our season' NL leaves tomorrow he would leave the next manager a poor squad needing surgery in the summer all over again.

It's my biggest grumble with him. There needs to be a vision/structure in getting youth and experience right and start pushing boat out for signings tied down long term. Board too of course.

Just my opinion
Complete nonsense. It is the manager that will ask for the player it is then up to the board to structure the deal.

Kamberi, Mallan, the goalie to name a few.

Sometimes if you want better quality in, you can only get them in on loan as they try to get themselves playing and noticed again, then if you are lucky, you will get something permanent

[J-C]

What worries me is it's very much a lennon signing.

Every year with Lennon the transfer policy is short term fixes, less building for 2/3 seasons unlike majority stubbs signings.

Always feels like we are swimming towards the tide at times with NL. Loans /Short term loans, Holt / Milligan / Commons aging. 2 January windows in a row required to 'Save our season' NL leaves tomorrow he would leave the next manager a poor squad needing surgery in the summer all over again.

It's my biggest grumble with him. There needs to be a vision/structure in getting youth and experience right and start pushing boat out for signings tied down long term. Board too of course.

Just my opinion


Erm Milligan signed a 2 year deal, he's 32 and 2 years is normal for someone his age.

[bingo70]

Agree some of the concerns re age however he is exactly the type of energetic aggressive player we need. Playing at a better level than we are for most of this season. Have always liked him as a player and think he would be a great signing if still fit. The bottom line is we are unlikely to be able to get the quality we need in their prime it will either be an older player or a youngster with promise. Hope it goes through now rather than the summer.

But he's obviously been deemed not good enough for that level just now or Derby wouldn't be letting him go mid-season. it sounds like he's been asked to do a job and after assessing him over the start to the season Lampard has decided he's currently not good enough.

I know there's the argument that the English Championship is a better standard than our premier league however despite all it's wealth i'm not sure i buy into that. A good player in our Premier league will be a good player in the championship and vice versa. A player that is showing signs of ageing and struggling a bit will in all probability have the same problem up here.

If it was, or is, a short term deal to see how he gets on then i'd be all for it but the talk of a longer term deal worries me. IMO Lennon will likely be spending a decent chunk of the next Hibs managers budget on an ageing box to box midfielder that will likely offer very poor value in his final year or two. I'm obviously working on the assumption that if he gets a 3 year deal then he will probably outlast Lennon at the club. That's not a dig at Lennon at all, i'd be amazed if he was still our manager in 2 or 3 years though, he'll either have left or been head hunted by then.

[BILLYHIBS]

Not sure if been mentioned already but Craig Bryson being linked to The Rangers( 2 days ago) a lot of Rams fans happy to drive them there themselves

https://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2019/01/13/some-derby-fans-slate-craig-brysons-display-after-rangers-links/

Looks as if we are all after the same players?

[Gordy M]

But he's obviously been deemed not good enough for that level just now or Derby wouldn't be letting him go mid-season. it sounds like he's been asked to do a job and after assessing him over the start to the season Lampard has decided he's currently not good enough.

I know there's the argument that the English Championship is a better standard than our premier league however despite all it's wealth i'm not sure i buy into that. A good player in our Premier league will be a good player in the championship and vice versa. A player that is showing signs of ageing and struggling a bit will in all probability have the same problem up here.

If it was, or is, a short term deal to see how he gets on then i'd be all for it but the talk of a longer term deal worries me. IMO Lennon will likely be spending a decent chunk of the next Hibs managers budget on an ageing box to box midfielder that will likely offer very poor value in his final year or two. I'm obviously working on the assumption that if he gets a 3 year deal then he will probably outlast Lennon at the club. That's not a dig at Lennon at all, i'd be amazed if he was still our manager in 2 or 3 years though, he'll either have left or been head hunted by then.

I thought Bryson was looking for a move home as his partner expecting? Or for family reasons? Maybe Derby have agreed to this. Im sure if he wasnt deemed good enough Derby have enough players to replace him and not play him in 22 games so far?

[bigswissstriker]

Bryson started against Leeds in arguably derbys biggest game this season on Friday just past. He’s still got it in him to come up here and be a success make no mistake.

[bingo70]

I thought Bryson was looking for a move home as his partner expecting? Or for family reasons? Maybe Derby have agreed to this. Im sure if he wasnt deemed good enough Derby have enough players to replace him and not play him in 22 games so far?

If Lampard felt him staying longer would benefit the club he'd be staying longer and not being given away for free whether he has a child due or not. I am absolutely certain of that.

Sounds like the Derby fans who see him week in and week out think the same.

I've absolutely no idea with regards to the depth of the Derby squad so i can't answer that however it's not unheard of for managers to reluctantly have to play players they don't want to until they can get better in the next transfer window.

Anyway, I know i've been really negative about him signing, if he does sign he'll get my full support and nobody will be happier if he proves me wrong. As it stands though i have alarm bells ringing.

[Peevemor]

how many of the first team squad this season do you have total faith in? especially the midfielders? reason we are sitting here desperate for another 3/4 signings is because a lot of our 'first' team squad have been a let down this season.

I responded to your point about Lennon & short term deals. It's obvious that he wants to tie players down to longer deals where appropriate.

For what it's worth, I think we have a decent squad but the number of injuries has obviously had an effect on team selection & consistency.

It's pretty obvious that we're missing something in midfield, but replacing the 3 we lost in the summer was never going to happen overnight.

[mcfly]

Bryson would be a terrible signing, especially on a long term deal. His legs have already gone which is why he has only played 5 games this season. I’m sure someone will mention the age we signed Sauzee but let’s face it, Craig Bryson was never the player Sauzee was. We will regret this signing.
We’ll soon be providing more pensions than Standard Life.
Hopefully this is all nonsense. If not it shows we are not learning.


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[DJ HIBBY]

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Bryson is on £30k plus a week and still playing fairly regularly for Derby. How could we possibly afford him? Seems fanciful

[J-C]

Bryson is on £30k plus a week and still playing fairly regularly for Derby. How could we possibly afford him? Seems fanciful


Of course it does but at least it's a rumour of some sorts and a change from posters bickering over nonsense on here.

[The_Horde]

I love when folks on here turn their noses up to players because of their age.

Probably the same posters who'd have us sign Dobbie in a heartbeat.

Norwich fans had Naismith down as finished as well and he seems to be doing ok.

[SMAXXA]

Seriously though, does Jack Ross have something against Lennon, Hibs or both? Sunderland suddenly being interested in a player we're after or one of our players is coming up too much to be a coincidence now, surely.

It’s also lazy journalism he’s the easy target to throw in the mix and seen he denied interest in one of the Celtic players last week maybe it was Henry can’t remember but reqdnuis interview

[SMAXXA]

Bryson is on £30k plus a week and still playing fairly regularly for Derby. How could we possibly afford him? Seems fanciful

We won’t and it’s the same reason guys like Dobbie have come back as made his money and the return to Scotland isn’t a money move unless the old firm are interested

[Heisenberg]

Cummings punted back to Forest. Reason given as “off field issues”.

[bingo70]

I love when folks on here turn their noses up to players because of their age.

Probably the same posters who'd have us sign Dobbie in a heartbeat.

Norwich fans had Naismith down as finished as well and he seems to be doing ok.

I think the type of players they are is of huge relevance.

Centre half's and forwards can play well into their 30's. Midfielders generally play differently and become more defensive and play the sitting role. Wingers are normally done by the time they are in their 30's and full backs become more defensive and don't bomb up and down the way they did in their prime. Keepers come into their prime at that age.

There's obviously exceptions to every rule but in general terms i think the above is normally what we can expect.

[JimBHibees]

But he's obviously been deemed not good enough for that level just now or Derby wouldn't be letting him go mid-season. it sounds like he's been asked to do a job and after assessing him over the start to the season Lampard has decided he's currently not good enough.

I know there's the argument that the English Championship is a better standard than our premier league however despite all it's wealth i'm not sure i buy into that. A good player in our Premier league will be a good player in the championship and vice versa. A player that is showing signs of ageing and struggling a bit will in all probability have the same problem up here.

If it was, or is, a short term deal to see how he gets on then i'd be all for it but the talk of a longer term deal worries me. IMO Lennon will likely be spending a decent chunk of the next Hibs managers budget on an ageing box to box midfielder that will likely offer very poor value in his final year or two. I'm obviously working on the assumption that if he gets a 3 year deal then he will probably outlast Lennon at the club. That's not a dig at Lennon at all, i'd be amazed if he was still our manager in 2 or 3 years though, he'll either have left or been head hunted by then.

I thought it was likely for the summer. He is playing every week for Derby maybe Frank has been given big bucks in this window to splash out hence may be looking to offload a couple in this window.

[Heckys Wheel]

Cummings punted back to Forest. Reason given as “off field issues”.

Where are you seeing that bud?

[DJ HIBBY]

I think the type of players they are is of huge relevance.

Centre half's and forwards can play well into their 30's. Midfielders generally play differently and become more defensive and play the sitting role. Wingers are normally done by the time they are in their 30's and full backs become more defensive and don't bomb up and down the way they did in their prime. Keepers come into their prime at that age.

There's obviously exceptions to every rule but in general terms i think the above is normally what we can expect.

Totally agree we are crying out for energy, dig and pace in our midfield. Very unlikely to find that with a player in his 30s. I would prefer us to be in the same market that found and developed the likes of McGinn, McGeouch etc...

[Heisenberg]

Where are you seeing that bud?

Was on the DR transfer feed thing. Had quotes so assumed it was official but can’t see anything on the Peterborough Twitter.

[The 90+2]

Where are you seeing that bud?


Former Hibs and Rangers (https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/all-about/rangers-fc) striker Jason Cummings (https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/all-about/jason-cummings) has been sent back to Nottingham Forest because he lost focus due to “off-the-field” issues.
The Scotland international had been in great form at the start of the season for Peterborough, scoring six goals in his first six games with the English League One side, picking up the League One player of the month award back in August in the process.
But since then he found the back of the net just twice in 23 appearances, and Posh boss Steve Evans admitted the striker had lost his way in recent months.
He said:

Jason was sensational when he first got here.
He looked like the top end Championship striker he is, but off the field stuff then affected his focus and he’s not been the same since.
A successful side needs all its players to be focussed and to work hard.
Jason is a great lad and he will prove again what a top player he is, but it’s not happened for him here which is a shame.

[Lago]

Bryson, Milligan, Whittaker, we could have our very own Still Game midfield.

Or one foot in the grave!!

[Centre Hawf]

Former Hibs and Rangers (https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/all-about/rangers-fc) striker Jason Cummings (https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/all-about/jason-cummings) has been sent back to Nottingham Forest because he lost focus due to “off-the-field” issues.
The Scotland international had been in great form at the start of the season for Peterborough, scoring six goals in his first six games with the English League One side, picking up the League One player of the month award back in August in the process.
But since then he found the back of the net just twice in 23 appearances, and Posh boss Steve Evans admitted the striker had lost his way in recent months.
He said:

Jason was sensational when he first got here.
He looked like the top end Championship striker he is, but off the field stuff then affected his focus and he’s not been the same since.
A successful side needs all its players to be focussed and to work hard.
Jason is a great lad and he will prove again what a top player he is, but it’s not happened for him here which is a shame.


From what i’ve heard the video of him wrecking his flat coincided with a bit of a bad spell for Jase. Think he needs help and support at the moment. And back up near his family.

[Speedway]

Further to my Marc Pugh rumour last week.

Hibs simply can’t afford him. He’s very impressed by the club and the manager and the opportunity to spend his weekends on the pitch rather than in the stands but other offers on the table can give him what he’s looking for so we’re out of the race.

[Diclonius]

Looks like Aberdeen are the other club after Greg Stewart. We lost out to them for him first time round and we don't seem to be able/want to compete with them - ah well.

[MrRobot]

Looks like Aberdeen are the other club after Greg Stewart. We lost out to them for him first time round and we don't seem to be able/want to compete with them - ah well.

How much have we offered Birmingham and Stewart against what Aberdeen have?

[Gaffer1875]

Might not be a lot happening but the rumours are starting to progress nicely. Happy with the standard (overall) that we are linked with;

Cummings
Scott Allan
Mlumbu
Hendry
Morgan
Halkett
Bryson
Shankland

If we could get 3 of those, ideally Scott Allan, Shankland and Halkett, for me it would be a successful window along with Gauld.




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[Ozyhibby]

McKenna going to Celtic? Will Aberdeen ask for Allan as a makeweight?


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[Diclonius]

How much have we offered Birmingham and Stewart against what Aberdeen have?

Basing this on past transfer competition between us and them (Gregg Wylde, Niall McGinn, Greg Stewart initial loan), they always seem to win out - no inside info. I suppose if we have a more pressing need for a striker we may offer more from them.

[The 90+2]

From what i’ve heard the video of him wrecking his flat coincided with a bit of a bad spell for Jase. Think he needs help and support at the moment. And back up near his family.

Lennon arm round the shoulder, go out and concentrate on scoring goals type thing? I would be open to this if we can get him longer than 6 months then have to find a replacement for half our team again.

[Heisenberg]

McKenna going to Celtic? Will Aberdeen ask for Allan as a makeweight?


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Appears that the rumour started based on a picture of McKenna in the back of a taxi. I’d be surprised if Aberdeen sold him to Celtc. Especially as they knocked back £6m from Villa for him.

[The 90+2]

McKenna going to Celtic? Will Aberdeen ask for Allan as a makeweight?


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Can't see it when he can sign a pre-contract just now with anyone. The ball isn't in Celtic's court anymore re Allan.

[500miles]

Further to my Marc Pugh rumour last week.

Hibs simply can’t afford him. He’s very impressed by the club and the manager and the opportunity to spend his weekends on the pitch rather than in the stands but other offers on the table can give him what he’s looking for so we’re out of the race.

Didn't we reach that point with Milligan in the summer, before a change of heart ?

[Heisenberg]

STV journo reporting that Aberdeen haven’t made any contact about signing Greg Stewart and have not shown any interest so far.

[Diclonius]

STV journo reporting that Aberdeen haven’t made any contact about signing Greg Stewart and have not shown any interest so far.

Good!

[JimboHibs]

Basing this on past transfer competition between us and them (Gregg Wylde, Niall McGinn, Greg Stewart initial loan), they always seem to win out - no inside info. I suppose if we have a more pressing need for a striker we may offer more from them.

That was a quick change of heart ...

From we dont want to compete to we may offer more.

[The 90+2]

Didn't we reach that point with Milligan in the summer, before a change of heart ?

Did Milligan have other offers? I presumed he got none that was anticipated so we got him eventually?

[Centre Hawf]

That was a quick change of heart ...

From we dont want to compete to we may offer more.

You loaded the question knowing full well he couldn’t answer it for you. He says we seem to not want to compete because of past dealings and the absolute non existence of any mention of us in rumours for him. It’s a football forum. Folk are allowed to get excited and miserable over nothing.

[Godsahibby]

Appears that the rumour started based on a picture of McKenna in the back of a taxi. I’d be surprised if Aberdeen sold him to Celtc. Especially as they knocked back £6m from Villa for him.

I don't think they actually knocked by £6MM. If I remember right Villa couldn't buy him at the time as it was after the window down there closed. It was going to be a loan deal with an option to buy, no guarantee Villa would have paid it. McInnes knocked it back because he would have lost a player and had no immediate funds to replace him.

[04Sauzee]

Chris Erskine is being rumoured to be joining Livingston from Thistle. I wonder if Byrne could be o his way out at Thistle and Livingston getting a replacement in first. Probably not but it's good to speculate 😂

[mentalhibee]

Hope we sign Jason Cummings back on a permanent deal, exactly what we need.

[500miles]

Did Milligan have other offers? I presumed he got none that was anticipated so we got him eventually?

I'm not sure. We were similar situation with horgan too. Wanted him early, appeared to be out of the running, but due to change of circumstances, we got him later in the window.

Could be a waiting game.

[matty_f]

I'm not sure. We were similar situation with horgan too. Wanted him early, appeared to be out of the running, but due to change of circumstances, we got him later in the window.

Could be a waiting game.

That's frustrating because the mighty Livingston might sign someone while we're waiting.

[CapitalGreen]

Chris Erskine is being rumoured to be joining Livingston from Thistle. I wonder if Byrne could be o his way out at Thistle and Livingston getting a replacement in first. Probably not but it's good to speculate 😂

Are Erskine and Byrne similar types of players? I wouldn't have said so personally but not seen a lot of Byrne.

[Hamish]

Chris Erskine is being rumoured to be joining Livingston from Thistle. I wonder if Byrne could be o his way out at Thistle and Livingston getting a replacement in first. Probably not but it's good to speculate 😂


Funny you mention Erskine. I've always been impressed with him but for whatever reasons his career hasn't really kicked on.

[Lago]

Might not be a lot happening but the rumours are starting to progress nicely. Happy with the standard (overall) that we are linked with;

Cummings
Scott Allan
Mlumbu
Hendry
Morgan
Halkett
Bryson
Shankland

If we could get 3 of those, ideally Scott Allan, Shankland and Halkett, for me it would be a successful window along with Gauld.

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Some of the links are pretty tenuous to be honest I could see a situation where none of them sign.

[BoomtownHibees]

Funny you mention Erskine. I've always been impressed with him but for whatever reasons his career hasn't really kicked on.

I was too in his first spell with Partick then he got his move to Dundee Utd and wasn’t great

[CMurdoch]

Might not be a lot happening but the rumours are starting to progress nicely. Happy with the standard (overall) that we are linked with;

Cummings
Scott Allan
Mlumbu
Hendry
Morgan
Halkett
Bryson
Shankland

If we could get 3 of those, ideally Scott Allan, Shankland and Halkett, for me it would be a successful window along with Gauld.




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All 3 on pre contracts would be perfect and at a cost of rock all

[Hibernian32]

Basing this on past transfer competition between us and them (Gregg Wylde, Niall McGinn, Greg Stewart initial loan), they always seem to win out - no inside info. I suppose if we have a more pressing need for a striker we may offer more from them.
Adam Rooney as well picked the sheep over us

[Jim44]

Martin O’Neil appointed manager at Forrest. Cummings has been returned to Forrest for ‘off-field’ issues. Wonder where that places his future?

[CallumLaidlaw]

Adam Rooney as well picked the sheep over us

We were only offering Rooney a loan deal if I remember correctly.


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[MagicSwirlingShip]

Martin O’Neil appointed manager at Forrest. Cummings has been returned to Forrest for ‘off-field’ issues. Wonder where that places his future?

Can’t see Roy Keane enjoying Jason’s ‘antics’

[Hibernia&Alba]

Martin O’Neil appointed manager at Forrest. Cummings has been returned to Forrest for ‘off-field’ issues. Wonder where that places his future?

He's a Forest legend of course, and a good manager, so I expect their fans are very happy. There will be a lot expected of him.

I wonder what Cummings' off field antics were about? I hope he isn't going to drift about and waste his career.

[Spudster]

Adam Rooney as well picked the sheep over us
He picked more money. Extra £500 a week and free housing I was told.

[SRHibs]

Wonder how much they’ve paying GMS? Would be nice if we could try and nick him off the Sheep.

[MrSmith]

Y'know, I have no idea what is going on re signings?? No source nor evidence to support this but yet again we find ourselves half way through the transfer window and little is achieved. Will it be last minute deals at the end of the window? Will SA sign in time? Will we be ready for Elgin? Will we ever get a transfer window where transfer targets arrive early? Tune in and post more about Hibernian transfer soap erm saga.

[blackpoolhibs]

I love when folks on here turn their noses up to players because of their age.

Probably the same posters who'd have us sign Dobbie in a heartbeat.

Norwich fans had Naismith down as finished as well and he seems to be doing ok.

So did a couple of Hibs fans.

[Big_Franck]

Y'know, I have no idea what is going on re signings?? No source nor evidence to support this but yet again we find ourselves half way through the transfer window and little is achieved. Will it be last minute deals at the end of the window? Will SA sign in time? Will we be ready for Elgin? Will we ever get a transfer window where transfer targets arrive early? Tune in and post more about Hibernian transfer soap erm saga.

We should know by now that the reason we don't do our business early is that we are waiting to get the best players at the end of the window. The likes of Mavrias and Nelom aren't always available at the start of transfer windows.

[Waxy]

Come home Jason. Another Scottish cup maybe?

[The_Horde]

So did a couple of Hibs fans.

I remember TC being the biggest champion of that opinion on here at the time.

[Brightside]

Chris Erskine is being rumoured to be joining Livingston from Thistle. I wonder if Byrne could be o his way out at Thistle and Livingston getting a replacement in first. Probably not but it's good to speculate 😂

Caldwell wont last much longer at Thistle.

[JimboHibs]

You loaded the question knowing full well he couldn’t answer it for you. He says we seem to not want to compete because of past dealings and the absolute non existence of any mention of us in rumours for him. It’s a football forum. Folk are allowed to get excited and miserable over nothing.

I only repeated what he said ... that he doesnt have any idea,thats not even a rumour,its posting drivel in the hope someone will believe his drivel !!

[Gaffer1875]

Wonder how much they’ve paying GMS? Would be nice if we could try and nick him off the Sheep.

I’d rather we didn’t. He only really plays well against us and is pretty inconsistent.

I’d imagine around £3-3500 per week at Aberdeen. Is he worth that? I heard he is a hibs fan? He could be interested in us...


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[BILLYHIBS]

I’d rather we didn’t. He only really plays well against us and is pretty inconsistent.

I’d imagine around £3-3500 per week at Aberdeen. Is he worth that? I heard he is a hibs fan? He could be interested in us...


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I also heard GMS had a trial under Calderwod but was dismissed as being too small

Might be wrong?

[brog]

We should know by now that the reason we don't do our business early is that we are waiting to get the best players at the end of the window. The likes of Mavrias and Nelom aren't always available at the start of transfer windows.

Neither were Scott Allan, Deek & Sol Bamba!

[Unseen work]

Reported as being interested in Craig Bryson again.

[brog]

Basing this on past transfer competition between us and them (Gregg Wylde, Niall McGinn, Greg Stewart initial loan), they always seem to win out - no inside info. I suppose if we have a more pressing need for a striker we may offer more from them.

The only one of those where we definitely competed was for McGinn & he understandably chose to return to the club he had played for before. As for Stewart, as you say it was a loan. His wages would continue to be paid by Brum so if we did lose out ( which is uncertain ) money to the player was not a factor. Interestingly, none of these transfers really worked out for Aberdeen.

[Gaffer1875]

I also heard GMS had a trial under Calderwod but was dismissed as being too small

Might be wrong?

Not sure, maybe that was in between his Airdrie and Dundee united days.


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