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Hermit Crab
08-11-2018, 11:38 PM
If we fail to score tomorrow that will be 287 minutes of football without a goal. We are really short on attacking options in my opinion. If Kamberi is out we are powderpuff up top. JM is not a lone striker and was largely anonymous in the last 2 matches and Shaw doesn't seem to be progressing much when he plays in the first team and Boyle is not an out and out striker. We created very little against Hearts and St Johnstone and its quite concerning. We simply can't rely on Mallan free kicks or his long range strikes all season.

A striker in January is a must along with Mr Allan for creativity please.


Tin hat on.:tin hat:

The_Horde
08-11-2018, 11:46 PM
If we fail to score tomorrow that will be 287 minutes of football without a goal. We are really short on attacking options in my opinion. If Kamberi is out we are powderpuff up top. JM is not a lone striker and was largely anonymous in the last 2 matches and Shaw doesn't seem to be progressing much when he plays in the first team and Boyle is not an out and out striker. We created very little against Hearts and St Johnstone and its quite concerning. We simply can't rely on Mallan free kicks or his long range strikes all season.

A striker in January is a must along with Mr Allan for creativity please.


Tin hat on.:tin hat:

We're not short of firepower at all. We've just come off of our worst performance in ages and a notoriously difficult derby at tynecastle.

If we don't score tomorrow it's not panic stations either as the sheep are notoriously both good at home and in shutting the opposition out.

Relax Martin.

Diclonius
08-11-2018, 11:53 PM
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Hermit Crab
08-11-2018, 11:55 PM
We're not short of firepower at all. We've just come off of our worst performance in ages and a notoriously difficult derby at tynecastle.

If we don't score tomorrow it's not panic stations either as the sheep are notoriously both good at home and in shutting the opposition out.

Relax Martin.


I'm not panicking I just think we are ruing not getting another striker in thats all. Goals win games, we need the guys to score them.

Scouse Hibee
09-11-2018, 12:10 AM
We're not short of firepower at all. We've just come off of our worst performance in ages and a notoriously difficult derby at tynecastle.

If we don't score tomorrow it's not panic stations either as the sheep are notoriously both good at home and in shutting the opposition out.

Relax Martin.

Yes we are and we need another striker in as soon as possible. Without Kamberi we have no presence up front and need to be able to cover him.

Sir David Gray
09-11-2018, 12:11 AM
I'm not panicking I just think we are ruing not getting another striker in thats all. Goals win games, we need the guys to score them.

You do realise that even after our barren spell, we're still the third highest scorers in the league?

Smartie
09-11-2018, 12:13 AM
We are very reliant on Kamberi.

That's because he's an excellent player, and when we've been lucky enough to have excellent players in the past, we've always been very reliant on them.

In our last 3 games we've had Kamberi for a game and a half at two of our toughest away games and he was absent for our most recent game.

I think it's a bit harsh to beat Hibs with this stat.

Stuart93
09-11-2018, 03:29 AM
We are very reliant on Kamberi.

That's because he's an excellent player, and when we've been lucky enough to have excellent players in the past, we've always been very reliant on them.

In our last 3 games we've had Kamberi for a game and a half at two of our toughest away games and he was absent for our most recent game.

I think it's a bit harsh to beat Hibs with this stat.

Which is all fair enough but it’s mental having to rely on the one player so much for us to get goals. Whole team have to chip in should he not be available.

lyonhibs
09-11-2018, 05:10 AM
Which is all fair enough but it’s mental having to rely on the one player so much for us to get goals. Whole team have to chip in should he not be available.

How many has Mallan got this year? SDG being out also robs us of another serious goal threat.

A striker in January is required, as is a little bit of calm the heck down juice for certain Hibs fans it would appear.

Hibernia&Alba
09-11-2018, 05:16 AM
If we fail to score tomorrow that will be 287 minutes of football without a goal. We are really short on attacking options in my opinion. If Kamberi is out we are powderpuff up top. JM is not a lone striker and was largely anonymous in the last 2 matches and Shaw doesn't seem to be progressing much when he plays in the first team and Boyle is not an out and out striker. We created very little against Hearts and St Johnstone and its quite concerning. We simply can't rely on Mallan free kicks or his long range strikes all season.

A striker in January is a must along with Mr Allan for creativity please.


Tin hat on.:tin hat:

LTYF :greengrin

A dry spell at the moment, but it's due to come to an end. We do need strengthening in attack, though, for another option when we have these periods.

B.H.F.C
09-11-2018, 06:51 AM
Which is all fair enough but it’s mental having to rely on the one player so much for us to get goals. Whole team have to chip in should he not be available.

We have been better in terms of different players chipping in with goals this year. Of all the goals we’ve scored in the league I think Flo only has 4 of them.

His scoring record is good but he gives the team a lot more than that. I remember thinking he was poor against Hamilton the other week but I think he came off with a goal and 3 assists. When he’s not there the ball rarely sticks up front long enough.

Beefster
09-11-2018, 06:56 AM
If a meteor strikes Aberdeen this morning, the game won’t even go ahead and it’ll be another day in our winless streak.

Gloucester Hibs
09-11-2018, 07:00 AM
We’ve missed SDG big time. Not just for his goal threat but for the fact his absence makes our team a bit disjointed, with (occasionally) square pegs in round holes.

JimBHibees
09-11-2018, 07:02 AM
We do need another striker imo as short when Flo out though would have started with oli and Jamie against saints.

calumhibee1
09-11-2018, 07:24 AM
Please start Flo and Maclaren together tonight.

Future17
09-11-2018, 07:29 AM
We've been unlucky with injuries to strikers, but it's a delicate balance between having competition for places, back up for injuries, opportunities for developing our youth players and not having unhappy players affecting the mood in the dressing room.

wookie70
09-11-2018, 07:43 AM
Judging by the weather forecast which is persisting it down an 50mph winds it could be a war tonight with little football played. We need our only big man up top to have a stormer as those conditions will favour Aberdeen imo. Big game to try and start a new run rather than continue this mini slump.

Heisenberg
09-11-2018, 07:51 AM
Being negative about something that hasn’t even happened yet. Splendid.

Wheat Hound
09-11-2018, 07:52 AM
If a meteor strikes Aberdeen this morning, the game won’t even go ahead and it’ll be another day in our winless streak.

Lennon will have brought that meteor on himself no doubt...

Greenbeard
09-11-2018, 08:53 AM
All will be well once the FloMac machine is back in full swing with Boyle/Aggie the wide options.

In any case, wwhoever we would be likely to get to come in in Jan at an affordable fee and pay rate would know they would as at least 3rd in the pecking order and clearly a cover player. IMO that wouldn't be any better than giving more of a chance to the young bucks Allan, Gullan and Shaw. Shaw has had a few chances and not really shown any progress from last term but the other two deserve more of a go before being written off as not good enough cover.

SirDavidsNapper
09-11-2018, 09:01 AM
If we lose 7-0 tonight it will be the third time in my lifetime we have lost by that score. Pathetic Hibs get it sorted.

Sir David Gray
09-11-2018, 09:08 AM
If we don't concede tonight, it will be the 5th time in 9 matches that we have kept a clean sheet against Aberdeen in normal time.

Real Emerald
09-11-2018, 09:10 AM
We definitely need another striker in January if we can find one. I think we all thought when Simon Murray was sold that we had someone lined up but we didn’t. It was a poor transfer window in the summer leaving us way short up front. Not that Murray was brilliant but it was a mistake letting him go without a replacement.

Kamberi doesn’t work on his own, Boyle isn’t a striker, Jamie doesn’t work on his own and in my opinion Shaw is not good enough, I will say ‘yet’ but doubt he ever will be.

Onceinawhile
09-11-2018, 09:12 AM
Agreed JM was anonymous against Hearts. I didn't even realise he made it onto the pitch so anonymous was he.

BILLYHIBS
09-11-2018, 09:19 AM
All will be well once the FloMac machine is back in full swing with Boyle/Aggie the wide options.

In any case, wwhoever we would be likely to get to come in in Jan at an affordable fee and pay rate would know they would as at least 3rd in the pecking order and clearly a cover player. IMO that wouldn't be any better than giving more of a chance to the young bucks Allan, Gullan and Shaw. Shaw has had a few chances and not really shown any progress from last term but the other two deserve more of a go before being written off as not good enough cover.
Agree with this Shaw has stood still and has not progressed at the hoped for rate he is starting to run out of chances maybe time to swap him in the pecking order with Lewis Allan who has done nothing wrong.

Weegreenman
09-11-2018, 09:23 AM
If we fail to score tomorrow that will be 287 minutes of football without a goal. We are really short on attacking options in my opinion. If Kamberi is out we are powderpuff up top. JM is not a lone striker and was largely anonymous in the last 2 matches and Shaw doesn't seem to be progressing much when he plays in the first team and Boyle is not an out and out striker. We created very little against Hearts and St Johnstone and its quite concerning. We simply can't rely on Mallan free kicks or his long range strikes all season.

A striker in January is a must along with Mr Allan for creativity please.


Tin hat on.:tin hat:



Couldn’t agree more. :aok:

BILLYHIBS
09-11-2018, 09:27 AM
Agreed JM was anonymous against Hearts. I didn't even realise he made it onto the pitch so anonymous was he.
:confused:

Jamie Mac was anonymous against Hearts because he did not play.

He was about to come on but Flo got sent off so Shaw went on instead as a lone striker.

:confused:

I presume you were being sarcastic?

Winston Ingram
09-11-2018, 09:37 AM
Lennon's tactics have been very poor in the last 2 games.

The 3 at the back left us with very little creativity at the PBS and we loose a big threat when we move Boyle away from the wing.

Against St Johnstone, MacLaren as a lone striker was ridiculous choice. His alround game is just not good enough to play without a target man. Shaw though lacking is far better suited to that role.

Onceinawhile
09-11-2018, 09:38 AM
:confused:

Jamie Mac was anonymous against Hearts because he did not play.

He was about to come on but Flo got sent off so Shaw went on instead as a lone striker.

:confused:

I presume you were being sarcastic?

Yes, the OP said JM had been anonymous in the last two games. The last two games being St. Johnstone and Hearts. I was therefore sarcastically giving my thoughts on his performance v hearts when he was, by all accounts per the OP "anonymous".

Humo
09-11-2018, 09:48 AM
Agreed JM was anonymous against Hearts. I didn't even realise he made it onto the pitch so anonymous was he.He'd shaved and looked a lot.younger to be fair

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BILLYHIBS
09-11-2018, 09:55 AM
Yes, the OP said JM had been anonymous in the last two games. The last two games being St. Johnstone and Hearts. I was therefore sarcastically giving my thoughts on his performance v hearts when he was, by all accounts per the OP "anonymous".

:thumbsup:

Brightside
09-11-2018, 10:00 AM
If we fail to score tomorrow that will be 287 minutes of football without a goal. We are really short on attacking options in my opinion. If Kamberi is out we are powderpuff up top. JM is not a lone striker and was largely anonymous in the last 2 matches and Shaw doesn't seem to be progressing much when he plays in the first team and Boyle is not an out and out striker. We created very little against Hearts and St Johnstone and its quite concerning. We simply can't rely on Mallan free kicks or his long range strikes all season.

A striker in January is a must along with Mr Allan for creativity please.


Tin hat on.:tin hat:

I said some time ago that Kamberi has an issue that will hold him back this season. We do struggle without him. So I actually agree that a proper hold up striker is a must have for January. And i fully expect that we have someone lined up already.

BILLYHIBS
09-11-2018, 10:09 AM
I said some time ago that Kamberi has an issue that will hold him back this season. We do struggle without him. So I actually agree that a proper hold up striker is a must have for January. And i fully expect that we have someone lined up already.
Is this issue the limp he has had since the start of the season or something more psychological?

:dunno:

Stokesy's on fire
09-11-2018, 10:11 AM
If we fail to score tomorrow that will be 287 minutes of football without a goal. We are really short on attacking options in my opinion. If Kamberi is out we are powderpuff up top. JM is not a lone striker and was largely anonymous in the last 2 matches and Shaw doesn't seem to be progressing much when he plays in the first team and Boyle is not an out and out striker. We created very little against Hearts and St Johnstone and its quite concerning. We simply can't rely on Mallan free kicks or his long range strikes all season.

A striker in January is a must along with Mr Allan for creativity please.


Tin hat on.:tin hat:


Chill out :nlgwa

Brightside
09-11-2018, 10:13 AM
Is this issue the limp he has had since the start of the season or something more psychological?

:dunno:

He has a knee issue. He has seen the surgeon various times and is working around it....but at some point he will need an op.

1van Sprou7e
09-11-2018, 10:22 AM
"Barren spell"

It's been two games without a goal....

G B Young
09-11-2018, 10:46 AM
Following the 6-0 win over Hamilton we scored twice in a what was a very competitive game against Celtic (not many teams will do likewise) then drew a blank in a derby at Tynecastle - a result I would have taken before the game. The glaring error has been the loss against St Johnstone, a game we simply should not have struggled so badly in.

Yes, another front man would do us no harm, but with Maclaren and Kamberi finally fit to play together for the first time in months we'll hopefully get back on the goal trail tonight.

JimBHibees
09-11-2018, 10:50 AM
Lennon's tactics have been very poor in the last 2 games.

The 3 at the back left us with very little creativity at the PBS and we loose a big threat when we move Boyle away from the wing.

Against St Johnstone, MacLaren as a lone striker was ridiculous choice. His alround game is just not good enough to play without a target man. Shaw though lacking is far better suited to that role.

Boyle played a fair part of that game alongside Jamie. Neither were great however were living off scraps.

NORTHERNHIBBY
09-11-2018, 10:55 AM
In terms of numbers though, there is a point to make that no one came in for Murray leaving.

Shrekko
09-11-2018, 11:00 AM
Agree with this Shaw has stood still and has not progressed at the hoped for rate he is starting to run out of chances maybe time to swap him in the pecking order with Lewis Allan who has done nothing wrong.

Not quite sure what people’s reasonable expectations of Oli Shaw are. He’s done really well IMO. What sort of ‘progress’ were you hoping for from a young lad at this stage? And you would swap an older player for him because he’s done ‘nothing wrong’ in the 1 game he’s played? What has Oli ‘done wrong’ exactly?

Winston Ingram
09-11-2018, 11:39 AM
Boyle played a fair part of that game alongside Jamie. Neither were great however were living off scraps.

He did. He changed when he realised that MacLaren can't play on his own, not that it made any difference as Boyle is a a similar type of striker.

JimBHibees
09-11-2018, 12:39 PM
He did. He changed when he realised that MacLaren can't play on his own, not that it made any difference as Boyle is a a similar type of striker.

Very poor service for both. One good thing should be at least McLaren should be more match fit given he played the 90 last week can only be a good thing that he can link up with Flo which was an excellent partnership last season.

BILLYHIBS
09-11-2018, 12:48 PM
Not quite sure what people’s reasonable expectations of Oli Shaw are. He’s done really well IMO. What sort of ‘progress’ were you hoping for from a young lad at this stage? And you would swap an older player for him because he’s done ‘nothing wrong’ in the 1 game he’s played? What has Oli ‘done wrong’ exactly?
Missed chances.
The Aberdeen LCQF springs immediately to mind
Time is running out for him I am afraid
I feel and I am sure many other posters feel that he has not showed the natural progression improvement that one would have expected at our level
If he scores tonight all will be forgiven obviously
How old were Lawrie Reilly and Joe Baker when they were scoring goals for fun?

JimBHibees
09-11-2018, 12:50 PM
Missed chances.
The Aberdeen LCQF springs immediately to mind
Time is running out for him I am afraid
I feel and I am sure many other posters feel that he has not showed the natural progression improvement that one would have expected at our level
If he scores tonight all will be forgiven obviously
How old were Lawrie Reilly and Joe Baker when they were scoring goals for fun?

He needs to play more regular thought he should have started last week however maybe not pulling up trees in training. Like him but still things to improve. If we are writing off players on the basis of missing chances in Aberdeen game there would be a long list.

SirDavidsNapper
09-11-2018, 12:56 PM
Missed chances.
The Aberdeen LCQF springs immediately to mind
Time is running out for him I am afraid
I feel and I am sure many other posters feel that he has not showed the natural progression improvement that one would have expected at our level
If he scores tonight all will be forgiven obviously
How old were Lawrie Reilly and Joe Baker when they were scoring goals for fun?

100% agree

BILLYHIBS
09-11-2018, 01:10 PM
He needs to play more regular thought he should have started last week however maybe not pulling up trees in training. Like him but still things to improve. If we are writing off players on the basis of missing chances in Aberdeen game there would be a long list.
Wasn’t just the missed chances it was also the wrong option every time when the simple ball was Flo in the middle for a tap in but you are correct he was not alone.

Keith_M
09-11-2018, 01:20 PM
You do realise that even after our barren spell, we're still the third highest scorers in the league?


We were actually top at some point. I think the last three games put paid to that. However, not many of those were scored by our recognized strikers (more on that below)

I watched us put in an unbelievably good performance against Aberdeen in the League Cup and fail to score over 120 minutes. We were crying out for a composed goalscorer that night.

As mentioned already, we can't rely on people like Mallan to get the goals in every game, especially as other teams have now realised just how dangerous he is and are marking him accordingly.

Jim44
09-11-2018, 01:25 PM
Picking up points tonight at Pittodrie is a huge ask and normally failing to do so would not be too unexpected or a major disappointment. The fact that we have dropped points to teams we really should be beating makes the performance and result more crucial. They’ll be going for a win as the home team so chances on the break will come our way. I hope we can cash in.

Keith_M
09-11-2018, 01:27 PM
We have a very poor record up there, and not great against the Dons in general.

I hope I'm wrong, but I think we're about to go four games without a win

Shrekko
09-11-2018, 01:40 PM
Missed chances.
The Aberdeen LCQF springs immediately to mind
Time is running out for him I am afraid
I feel and I am sure many other posters feel that he has not showed the natural progression improvement that one would have expected at our level
If he scores tonight all will be forgiven obviously
How old were Lawrie Reilly and Joe Baker when they were scoring goals for fun?

OK got it.... he's not Lawrie Reilly or Joe Baker. I understand now.

Strikers miss chances- just a fact of life I'm afraid and as has already been pointed out to you.. plenty other players missed chances v Aberdeen.... think Kamberi probably missed the easiest one. Jason Cummings missed plenty chances and took about 20 games to score.

Way too early to say time is running out for him. Ridiculous nonsense, particularly when you're pushing for someone with a far poorer record to be picked ahead of him.

MWHIBBIES
09-11-2018, 01:49 PM
Missed chances.
The Aberdeen LCQF springs immediately to mind
Time is running out for him I am afraid
I feel and I am sure many other posters feel that he has not showed the natural progression improvement that one would have expected at our level
If he scores tonight all will be forgiven obviously
How old were Lawrie Reilly and Joe Baker when they were scoring goals for fun?What a ridiculous comparison and absurd thing to say. Time is running out :faf: According to who exactly?

Aberdeen game is the only one that springs to mind and he wasn't the only one.

This time last year he had played about 2 games, what natural progressing were you expecting?

Honestly one of the most laughable posts I've seen on here. Writing off a 20 year old who has done very little wrong since being thrown in. Hope he doesn't read this site.

People question players loyalty in the modern game but no wonder they move on when this is the support they get when things aren't going well.

My_Wife_Camille
09-11-2018, 02:16 PM
Shaw doesn’t have it imo. I’ll be surprised if he scores another 5 goals in Hibs colours before the Stanton and Harris-esque state of permanent loaning out begins.

BILLYHIBS
09-11-2018, 02:25 PM
What a ridiculous comparison and absurd thing to say. Time is running out :faf: According to who exactly?

Aberdeen game is the only one that springs to mind and he wasn't the only one.

This time last year he had played about 2 games, what natural progressing were you expecting?

Honestly one of the most laughable posts I've seen on here. Writing off a 20 year old who has done very little wrong since being thrown in. Hope he doesn't read this site.

People question players loyalty in the modern game but no wonder they move on when this is the support they get when things aren't going well.
Might have escaped your notice but football is all about opinions and it is a no from me.
I am open to him changing my opinion based on what I have seen so far but I doubt it.
I don’t see anyone else laughing

BILLYHIBS
09-11-2018, 02:28 PM
OK got it.... he's not Lawrie Reilly or Joe Baker. I understand now.

Strikers miss chances- just a fact of life I'm afraid and as has already been pointed out to you.. plenty other players missed chances v Aberdeen.... think Kamberi probably missed the easiest one. Jason Cummings missed plenty chances and took about 20 games to score.

Way too early to say time is running out for him. Ridiculous nonsense, particularly when you're pushing for someone with a far poorer record to be picked ahead of him.
Sorry but still don’t see any improvement from this time last year.
It’s a no.

Shrekko
09-11-2018, 02:49 PM
Sorry but still don’t see any improvement from this time last year.
It’s a no.

No, it’s a no in your opinion which quite frankly is irrelevant to the boys career. I’d say he’s had maybe 2/3 not great games but mainly shown promise. If that’s you written him off at this stage then up to you. You should really be working in some top end talent evaluation team at a top club if you can make that call so easily.

Absolutely flabbergasted by your comments and shows how ridiculously impatient people are these days but not important.

You do realise the boy you’re touting for promotion in the squad couldn’t get a game for Edinburgh city a couple of years back aye?

MWHIBBIES
09-11-2018, 02:58 PM
Might have escaped your notice but football is all about opinions and it is a no from me.
I am open to him changing my opinion based on what I have seen so far but I doubt it.
I don’t see anyone else laughing
It is all about opinions and that is mine. Don't understand why people hide behind that card, I didn't say that you aren't entitled to it. Just that its nonsense (in my opinion)

Writing off a 20 year old and saying his time is running out is just laughable. His time has hardly even started.
He has alot more goals than Kamberi and Maclaren did at that age.

I'll trust the gaffer who brought him on in the semi Vs Celtic and started him at Tynecastle. The gaffer who started him in Europe and Vs Aberdeen in the QF. He's a good young player who needs support and time.

lyonhibs
09-11-2018, 03:00 PM
Well whomever plays and however many goals we don't show, there'll be around a 1000 Hibs fans in attendance , as per the official site, which is a cracking effort, and a bit of a bloody nose to those saying we'd get little over half that because of wibble wibble :greengrin

BILLYHIBS
09-11-2018, 03:07 PM
No, it’s a no in your opinion which quite frankly is irrelevant to the boys career. I’d say he’s had maybe 2/3 not great games but mainly shown promise. If that’s you written him off at this stage then up to you. You should really be working in some top end talent evaluation team at a top club if you can make that call so easily.

Absolutely flabbergasted by your comments and shows how ridiculously impatient people are these days but not important.
Appreciate your point of view and respect your opinion but I am afraid my opinion represents many on this site I want the boy to do well I want him to kick on and be a huge success but like many others I am perhaps starting to grow frustrated as I am starting to give up hope of this happening as to me he seems to have stood still and has not improved at the same rate as say young Porteous. To me Olly seems to lack the physicality as what might look like fouls on him are just him getting brushed aside because he is too light and referees all too often wave play on. This was apparent in both matches against Aberdeen He needs to bulk up and improve his hold up play. I am not necessarily pushing for Lewis Allan but to me he represents a more physical hold up player type of option for us especially with Flo being in and out the team. Please do not get me wrong I want Olly to be a success but I am starting to think this is becoming more and more unlikely in fact I would not be surprised if Lenny brings in another hold up Grant Holt type striker in January.
You are correct I am not some Simon Cowell type football talent spotter my only qualification is that I have been watching HIBS for fifty years and believe me you tend to know right away when you have a good one.

SirDavidsNapper
09-11-2018, 03:13 PM
Appreciate your point of view and respect your opinion but I am afraid my opinion represents many on this site I want the boy to do well I want him to kick on and be a huge success but like many others I am perhaps starting to grow frustrated as I am starting to give up hope of this happening as to me he seems to have stood still and has not improved at the same rate as say young Porteous. To me Olly seems to lack the physicality as what might look like fouls on him are just him getting brushed aside because he is too light and referees all too often wave play on. This was apparent in both matches against Aberdeen He needs to bulk up and improve his hold up play. I am not necessarily pushing for Lewis Allan but to me he represents a more physical hold up player type of option for us especially with Flo being in and out the team. Please do not get me wrong I want Olly to be a success but I am starting to think this is becoming more and more unlikely in fact I would not be surprised if Lenny brings in another hold up Grant Holt type striker in January.
You are correct I am not some Simon Cowell type football talent spotter my only qualification is that I have been watching HIBS for fifty years and believe me you tend to know right away when you have a good one.

I've said it on here before and been crucified but what Shaw needs is a loan move to a Falkirk or Morton. would do him the world of good. Unfortunately we're a bit light up top as it is.

The 90+2
09-11-2018, 03:20 PM
I've said it on here before and been crucified but what Shaw needs is a loan move to a Falkirk or Morton. would do him the world of good. Unfortunately we're a bit light up top as it is.

He would learn a lot from Dobbie at qos.

BILLYHIBS
09-11-2018, 03:21 PM
It is all about opinions and that is mine. Don't understand why people hide behind that card, I didn't say that you aren't entitled to it. Just that its nonsense (in my opinion)

Writing off a 20 year old and saying his time is running out is just laughable. His time has hardly even started.
He has alot more goals than Kamberi and Maclaren did at that age.

I'll trust the gaffer who brought him on in the semi Vs Celtic and started him at Tynecastle. The gaffer who started him in Europe and Vs Aberdeen in the QF. He's a good young player who needs support and time.
Appreciate your point of view
I hope he does kick on.
I was his biggest fan felt for him after the goal that never was against Hearts it would have done wonders for his confidence
My concern is he is starting to look as if there is no improvement from this time last year and starting to wonder if it is ever going to happen for him at Easter Road
Not hiding behind anything happy to have an open sensible debate on here with any poster after all that is what forums are for
You think Olly is going to be a big success at HIBS I fear not
I only hope you are correct

B.H.F.C
09-11-2018, 03:40 PM
It is all about opinions and that is mine. Don't understand why people hide behind that card, I didn't say that you aren't entitled to it. Just that its nonsense (in my opinion)

Writing off a 20 year old and saying his time is running out is just laughable. His time has hardly even started.
He has alot more goals than Kamberi and Maclaren did at that age.

I'll trust the gaffer who brought him on in the semi Vs Celtic and started him at Tynecastle. The gaffer who started him in Europe and Vs Aberdeen in the QF. He's a good young player who needs support and time.

He needs and deserves the support. But It’s up to him to go and make it happen. Not in 18 months or a couple of years. Now. He really needs to push himself forward and doesn’t seem to be doing that at this moment in time IMO.

Ronniekirk
09-11-2018, 09:40 PM
If we fail to score tomorrow that will be 287 minutes of football without a goal. We are really short on attacking options in my opinion. If Kamberi is out we are powderpuff up top. JM is not a lone striker and was largely anonymous in the last 2 matches and Shaw doesn't seem to be progressing much when he plays in the first team and Boyle is not an out and out striker. We created very little against Hearts and St Johnstone and its quite concerning. We simply can't rely on Mallan free kicks or his long range strikes all season.

A striker in January is a must along with Mr Allan for creativity please.


Tin hat on.:tin hat:

Your a Jinx

Hermit Crab
09-11-2018, 09:52 PM
287 and counting... We are struggling.


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Hibeesmad
09-11-2018, 09:53 PM
Longest we have gone without scoring since March 2014, the Butcher days. Shocking

neil7908
09-11-2018, 09:56 PM
Longest we have gone without scoring since March 2014, the Butcher days. Shocking

Ouch, that's not great reading.

Hermit Crab
09-11-2018, 09:58 PM
Ouch, that's not great reading.

Not great viewing either.

SirDavidsNapper
09-11-2018, 10:03 PM
Longest we have gone without scoring since March 2014, the Butcher days. Shocking

3 years of that was against joiners and sparkys

Hermit Crab
09-11-2018, 10:57 PM
3 years of that was against joiners and sparkys

Exactly.


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Hibernia&Alba
10-11-2018, 06:51 AM
It's a real bad patch just now: nae goals and not playing well. All teams have them; we'll come through. We know where we need to strengthen; the last transfer window was very poor and we suspected this might happen. However, I'm confident we'll re-discover our form soon and have a satisfactory (though not outstanding) season. Let's hold our nerve and see how we go in the next few fixtures. I'm actually feeling somewhat optimistic we'll bounce back.

Hermit Crab
10-11-2018, 01:25 PM
It's a real bad patch just now: nae goals and not playing well. All teams have them; we'll come through. We know where we need to strengthen; the last transfer window was very poor and we suspected this might happen. However, I'm confident we'll re-discover our form soon and have a satisfactory (though not outstanding) season. Let's hold our nerve and see how we go in the next few fixtures. I'm actually feeling somewhat optimistic we'll bounce back.


If we lose to nil to Dundee there will be full scale reactor meltdown.

One Day Soon
10-11-2018, 01:53 PM
You do realise that even after our barren spell, we're still the third highest scorers in the league?

People like you with your ****ing facts

Hibernia&Alba
10-11-2018, 04:16 PM
If we lose to nil to Dundee there will be full scale reactor meltdown.

Aye, .net would go Chernobyl. Let's hope that scenario is avoided.

Onceinawhile
10-11-2018, 04:59 PM
If we lose to nil to Dundee there will be full scale reactor meltdown.

Never mind losing to nil, if we lose to Dundee.

Ronniekirk
10-11-2018, 05:30 PM
He has a knee issue. He has seen the surgeon various times and is working around it....but at some point he will need an op.

Well that's not great news

Hermit Crab
10-11-2018, 05:36 PM
Well that's not great news


Striker in January is a must.

Hermit Crab
10-11-2018, 05:37 PM
Never mind losing to nil, if we lose to Dundee.


Equally as bad if we lose to Dundee.

superfurryhibby
10-11-2018, 05:39 PM
Well that's not great news

It has been well reported and I find it a bit surprising that we didn’t have the surgery done preseason. Competing priorities at the time I suppose. I does make the decision not to sign another striker a bit bewilderingly though.

Ronniekirk
10-11-2018, 10:19 PM
It has been well reported and I find it a bit surprising that we didn’t have the surgery done preseason. Competing priorities at the time I suppose. I does make the decision not to sign another striker a bit bewilderingly though.

I agree . Shaw is work in progress ,and has had limited game time recently ,so with Mclaren still needing game time to get fully match fit , and possibly still not 100% recovered from his back problem it's not ideal Flo needs an Op

Hermit Crab
10-11-2018, 10:26 PM
I agree . Shaw is work in progress ,and has had limited game time recently ,so with Mclaren still needing game time to get fully match fit , and possibly still not 100% recovered from his back problem it's not ideal Flo needs an Op


Shaw has been "breaking" into the first team for about 3 years now, if he was able to make the step up he would have done it by now imo.

The 90+2
10-11-2018, 10:27 PM
Shaw has been "breaking" into the first team for about 3 years now, if he was able to make the step up he would have done it by now imo.

I really feel he would have benefitted going out on loan but he was probably needed as cover especially after Flo hurt himself in the Europa.

Hermit Crab
10-11-2018, 10:34 PM
I really feel he would have benefitted going out on loan but he was probably needed as cover especially after Flo hurt himself in the Europa.


Just don't think he's good enough, massive gap between reserves and first team.

The 90+2
10-11-2018, 10:37 PM
Just don't think he's good enough, massive gap between reserves and first team.

Fair do’s - I wouldn’t write him off just let as there’s a lot of good attributes to his game, there is a gap between the reserves that’s why he should be out on loan.