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Diclonius
28-10-2018, 03:17 PM
Is Naismith now out for Wednesday? Will MacLean be retroactively punished?

Could be looking at them playing us with their 4th and 5th choice strikers (who?).

BullsCloseHibs
28-10-2018, 03:19 PM
Naismith will make the usual miraculous recovery. Just in time. Fud that he is.

essexhibee
28-10-2018, 03:21 PM
Naismith absolutely will make it.

Franck Stanton
28-10-2018, 03:21 PM
Who cares? They are both ***** anyway. No fear. Just need the ref to be strong.the

Hibee87
28-10-2018, 03:22 PM
Naismith who knows. No one would be suprised I'd he was fit.

Mclean I am positive will play. The authorities didn't kick them out the cup for cheating. I've no idea if the Compliane officer gets involved in cup. And if he does It will either not be cited before game on Wednesday or he will be offered a second yellow missing the next league cup match.

Itsnoteasy
28-10-2018, 03:24 PM
Is Naismith now out for Wednesday? Will MacLean be retroactively punished?

Could be looking at them playing us with their 4th and 5th choice strikers (who?).

Punished for what?

GlesgaeHibby
28-10-2018, 03:25 PM
Punished for what?

Grabbing Kouassie's goolies.

GloryGlory
28-10-2018, 03:26 PM
Punished for what?

Hand ball. :greengrin

Itsnoteasy
28-10-2018, 03:27 PM
Grabbing Kouassie's goolies.

We would be a bit aggrieved if a Hibs player was done for that.

His 1st booking was never a yellow card.

BoomtownHibees
28-10-2018, 03:27 PM
We would be a bit aggrieved if a Hibs player was done for that.

His 1st booking was never a yellow card.

It’s violent conduct never mind weird as ****

Billy Whizz
28-10-2018, 03:28 PM
Naismith absolutely will make it.

No chance if it’s a hamstring injury

Itsnoteasy
28-10-2018, 03:28 PM
Hand ball. :greengrin

:greengrin

21.05.2016
28-10-2018, 03:29 PM
Oh you bet your bottom dollar Naismith will make it! Even if he has to be doped to the eyeballs in painkillers he will make it on Wednesday without a doubt. If it had been anyone other than us they were played Levein and co probably would have just rested him but because it's us they will risk him IMO.

crash
28-10-2018, 03:29 PM
Hand ball. :greengrin

:top marks:

CMurdoch
28-10-2018, 03:32 PM
No chance if it’s a hamstring injury

I saw an experienced intelligent player who knows his own body sit down on the grass and have the oh no look on his face.
He came off the field but agreed to go back on until Hearts got a sub ready.
On re-entering the pitch he took up a strategic position and made no attempt to run anywhere.
A minute later he walked from the field.

He will not voluntarily take an injection to play on Wednesday and will not be bullied into it by anyone including Levein.
He may just have tweaked a knee ligament and by not aggravating it further may be out for only a month.
He will look at the big picture and do what is right for him.

Joe6-2
28-10-2018, 03:32 PM
Hand ball. :greengrin

Hand to ball

Springbank
28-10-2018, 03:33 PM
Oh you bet your bottom dollar Naismith will make it! Even if he has to be doped to the eyeballs in painkillers he will make it on Wednesday without a doubt. If it had been anyone other than us they were played Levein and co probably would have just rested him but because it's us they will risk him IMO.

their season will be over by next sunday if théy lose their next 2 games. théy will throw ethics & medical advice out the Window for 7 days & the hell with the consequences

makaveli1875
28-10-2018, 03:38 PM
On this Day 28th of October 2018.Steven Naismith Shat it!

He will be playing in the derby

wallpaperman
28-10-2018, 03:39 PM
Be hugely surprised if a player replaced after 8 minutes of a semi final could be fit 3 days later, but with them you never can tell.

Just Alf
28-10-2018, 03:41 PM
We would be a bit aggrieved if a Hibs player was done for that.

His 1st booking was never a yellow card.Rangers fan was given 9 months in jail for a quick grab of a stewerdesses boob recently... You saying folk grabbing someone balls doesn't compare?


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theonlywayisup
28-10-2018, 03:41 PM
Even if McLean is punished, would any ban not just apply to the League Cup. In any case Hertz would just appeal against a ban and the hearing would unlikely be heard before Wednesday.

Joe6-2
28-10-2018, 03:42 PM
Be hugely surprised if a player replaced after 8 minutes of a semi final could be fit 3 days later, but with them you never can tell.

They would rather win on Wednesday than today

Hibee87
28-10-2018, 03:47 PM
Rangers fan was given 9 months in jail for a quick grab of a stewerdesses boob recently... You saying folk grabbing someone balls doesn't compare?


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If I two footed a air stewardess to the shin I would expect some jail time as well.
Not condoning the act, but what happens on a football pitch and what happens in real life are 2 different things. Should be punished. Won't be.

Just Alf
28-10-2018, 03:49 PM
If I two footed a air stewardess to the shin I would expect some jail time as well.
Not condoning the act, but what happens on a football pitch and what happens in real life are 2 different things. Should be punished. Won't be.Agreed... But precedent... Darren fergusen? And that head butt.

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Edit... I agree with you by the way... Just pointing out that we're about to see some double standards about to happen, and if I was the 'boob' prat I'd be rightly peeved.

H18 SFR
28-10-2018, 03:51 PM
Even if McLean is punished, would any ban not just apply to the League Cup. In any case Hertz would just appeal against a ban and the hearing would unlikely be heard before Wednesday.

If it was deemed violent conduct he would be banned for the next game and in this case it's the league.

CMurdoch
28-10-2018, 03:52 PM
Agreed... But precedent... Darren fergusen? And that head butt.

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Duncan Ferguson

Jim44
28-10-2018, 03:52 PM
Be hugely surprised if a player replaced after 8 minutes of a semi final could be fit 3 days later, but with them you never can tell.

As the game against us is massively more important to them than getting to a cup final, I think Naismith was taken off as a precaution. He’ll play next week.

Just Alf
28-10-2018, 03:53 PM
Duncan FergusonTa... Duncan :agree:

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CMurdoch
28-10-2018, 03:59 PM
As the game against us is massively more important to them than getting to a cup final, I think Naismith was taken off as a precaution. He’ll play next week.

Can't see it.
He has had 2 cruciate ligament injuries in his career and missed a year on each occasion.
Suspect he has tweaked it on this occasion and won't chance ruining what is left of his career and earning ability by playing on Wednesday.
Hibees might not like him but he is no daftie.

we are hibs
28-10-2018, 04:02 PM
Wasn't really paying attention but I'm sure berra said post match that naismith might be ok for Wednesday. They'll play him injured.

.Sean.
28-10-2018, 04:04 PM
I saw an experienced intelligent player who knows his own body sit down on the grass and have the oh no look on his face.
He came off the field but agreed to go back on until Hearts got a sub ready.
On re-entering the pitch he took up a strategic position and made no attempt to run anywhere.
A minute later he walked from the field.

He will not voluntarily take an injection to play on Wednesday and will not be bullied into it by anyone including Levein.
He may just have tweaked a knee ligament and by not aggravating it further may be out for only a month.
He will look at the big picture and do what is right for him.
I hope he plays, Bartley plays and finishes the wee runt for good

Col2
28-10-2018, 04:06 PM
Potter said Naismith felt something gonin his knee. If he plays he will be crap.

Haring (who was annoumous) is no back to square one so will go for op.
So out for a couple of months.

Hearts will now revert to type A hoof ball and expect lots of injuries on Wednesday

flash
28-10-2018, 04:06 PM
As the game against us is massively more important to them than getting to a cup final, I think Naismith was taken off as a precaution. He’ll play next week.

Seriously??????

MSK
28-10-2018, 04:06 PM
Grabbing Kouassie's goolies.Was the only balls he touched all day, ****ing huddy

Onion
28-10-2018, 04:06 PM
They would rather win on Wednesday than today

:agree: Today was a warm up and Naismith going off simply a ploy by the Yams so they have a sob story ahead of their biggest game in History against the Hibees on Wednesday. He'll make a sudden recovery for Wed just as many many before him have done so. Just like diving for a soft pen, it's in the Yam DNA.

Smartie
28-10-2018, 04:14 PM
I'd be disappointed if McLean missed it.

He's absolutely nothing without Naismith.

Naismith is a menace and it would be great if he either missed the game or attempted one of those nonsensical half-arsed efforts that injured players sometimes make.

Ronniekirk
28-10-2018, 04:21 PM
No chance if it’s a hamstring injury

Precaution for the Big game on Wed ?

Austinho
28-10-2018, 04:23 PM
I'd be disappointed if McLean missed it.

He's absolutely nothing without Naismith.

Naismith is a menace and it would be great if he either missed the game or attempted one of those nonsensical half-arsed efforts that injured players sometimes make.Would happily see him miss out too, with Hearts thin in the striker department.

Billy Whizz
28-10-2018, 04:25 PM
Potter said Naismith felt something gonin his knee. If he plays he will be crap.

Haring (who was annoumous) is no back to square one so will go for op.
So out for a couple of months.

Hearts will now revert to type A hoof ball and expect lots of injuries on Wednesday
Naismith was out for almost a year with a cruciate injury in 2022. I’d hope for his sake it isn’t the same knee

Much as we all hate Hearts, wouldn’t want this to happen to any player, plus Scotland really need him just now

Austinho
28-10-2018, 04:34 PM
https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hearts/naismith-and-haring-set-to-miss-derby-as-hearts-woes-mount-1-4821028

Rolf Levein allegedly saying he expects Naismith and Haring to miss the derby. Dikamona picked up a knock too. Expect all three to start.

Heckys Wheel
28-10-2018, 04:35 PM
Naismith was out for almost a year with a cruciate injury in 2022. I’d hope for his sake it isn’t the same knee

Much as we all hate Hearts, wouldn’t want this to happen to any player, plus Scotland really need him just now

F*** that.

I hope it is the same knee and I hope he’s out for the rest of the season.

Onion
28-10-2018, 04:40 PM
https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hearts/naismith-and-haring-set-to-miss-derby-as-hearts-woes-mount-1-4821028

Rolf Levein allegedly saying he expects Naismith and Haring to miss the derby. Dikamona picked up a knock too. Expect all three to start.

Going by his complete comment, fully expect them both to play on Wed. Levein loves his little mind games ahead of Hibs matches and there's no danger Naismith is going to miss the game if there's even a glimmer of chance of him playing.

CMurdoch
28-10-2018, 04:42 PM
Naismith was out for almost a year with a cruciate injury in 2022. I’d hope for his sake it isn’t the same knee

Much as we all hate Hearts, wouldn’t want this to happen to any player, plus Scotland really need him just now

He has had 2 cruciate ligament injuries in his career and missed almost a year on each occasion.

Zazu62
28-10-2018, 04:44 PM
He’s on crutches, heard a pop in his knee really can’t see him playing on wed

Austinho
28-10-2018, 04:48 PM
Medial ligament allegedly.

Hermit Crab
28-10-2018, 04:50 PM
This has John Robertson written all over it. Naismith will play.

Billy Whizz
28-10-2018, 04:54 PM
This has John Robertson written all over it. Naismith will play.

No chance
We just need to forget about all their injuries, and concentrate on our own game
Been through this many times pre match at Tynie

Leith Green
28-10-2018, 04:55 PM
Medial ligament allegedly.



Be season pretty much over if it is for him

bingo70
28-10-2018, 05:01 PM
Be season pretty much over if it is for him

Depends what he’s done to it surely?

Leith Green
28-10-2018, 05:02 PM
Depends what he’s done to it surely?

Good point .. 😁

Ryan69
28-10-2018, 05:05 PM
On this Day 28th of October 2018.Steven Naismith Shat it!

He will be playing in the derby

With a face like his...He cant really miss 31st of October any year.

Pagan Hibernia
28-10-2018, 05:24 PM
Without Naismith and that other gob***** from last year Lafferty we may have a chance on wednesday

Borderhibbie76
28-10-2018, 05:24 PM
This has John Robertson written all over it. Naismith will play.The paranoia on here is ridiculous...come on FFS he felt something go in his knee...there's no chance he's playing get a grip. And if miracle of miracles he plays well he ain't gonna be much cop is he??

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Hermit Crab
28-10-2018, 05:26 PM
The paranoia on here is ridiculous...come on FFS he felt something go in his knee...there's no chance he's playing get a grip. And if miracle of miracles he plays well he ain't gonna be much cop is he??

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Hardly paranoia is it. They’re famous for pulling strokes like this.

NC1875
28-10-2018, 05:28 PM
Naismith was out for almost a year with a cruciate injury in 2022. I’d hope for his sake it isn’t the same knee

Much as we all hate Hearts, wouldn’t want this to happen to any player, plus Scotland really need him just now

Because Naismith has so much compassion for other injured professsionals. Hope he’s out for the season the dirty rat.

Shrekko
28-10-2018, 05:28 PM
Without Naismith and that other gob***** from last year Lafferty we may have a chance on wednesday

We had a chance long before they were missing.

greenlex
28-10-2018, 05:30 PM
Naismith was out for almost a year with a cruciate injury in 2022. I’d hope for his sake it isn’t the same knee

Much as we all hate Hearts, wouldn’t want this to happen to any player, plus Scotland really need him just now
2022 and out for a year? That must surely finish hiim at that age.:greengrin

Weegreenman
28-10-2018, 05:30 PM
Our record against them at Tynecastle is absolutely pitiful. I’ve seen us lose so many times I take nothing for granted no matter how many injuries they have. We go there and be thouroly professional and do a job on them. :flag:

Borderhibbie76
28-10-2018, 05:32 PM
Hardly paranoia is it. They’re famous for pulling strokes like this.It is however paranoia when some are suggesting he will play despite having a serious injury is it not?? Whether he plays or not...if the play anything like they did today...we have a real chance. But we need to turn up which is not something we often do at the PBS

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Hibeewilly
28-10-2018, 05:35 PM
The paranoia on here is ridiculous...come on FFS he felt something go in his knee...there's no chance he's playing get a grip. And if miracle of miracles he plays well he ain't gonna be much cop is he??

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100% correct BH. Two of my Jambo mates were in hospitality and their medical team wont know the extent of the injury until the scan is done but no chance he is playing for the next couple of weeks at least. We need to forget about injuries as we have them as well and concentrate on going there and pummeling them on Wednesday. Lenny will have the players spot on for this mentally I'm certain. GGTTH

oldbutdim
28-10-2018, 05:36 PM
It is however paranoia when some are suggesting he will play despite having a serious injury is it not?? Whether he plays or not...if the play anything like they did today...we have a real chance. But we need to turn up which is not something we often do at the PBS

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I don't think anyone has suggested that.

More the view that the Gunts often claim injuries are far worse than the reality, when a game against Hibs is on the horizon.

B.H.F.C
28-10-2018, 05:36 PM
Without Naismith and that other gob***** from last year Lafferty we may have a chance on wednesday

Even with them we should still be believing we have a chance.

However, with the players they have missing we need to really be going here looking for the win. We should be fresh. We need to get after them right from the start.

Borderhibbie76
28-10-2018, 05:37 PM
100% correct BH. Two of my Jambo mates were in hospitality and their medical team wont know the extent of the injury until the scan is done but no chance he is playing for the next couple of weeks at least. We need to forget about injuries as we have them as well and concentrate on going there and pummeling them on Wednesday. Lenny will have the players spot on for this mentally I'm certain. GGTTHI really hope so...we need a big performance for once over there...far too many times we don't show up at Tiny half finished Tynie

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Pagan Hibernia
28-10-2018, 05:40 PM
Even with them we should still be believing we have a chance.

However, with the players they have missing we need to really be going here looking for the win. We should be fresh. We need to get after them right from the start.


I agree.

But ive seen us win 7 games out of 65 at that dump. I’m programmed to be negative about it.

nonshinyfinish
28-10-2018, 05:49 PM
Naismith was out for almost a year with a cruciate injury in 2022. I’d hope for his sake it isn’t the same knee

Much as we all hate Hearts, wouldn’t want this to happen to any player, plus Scotland really need him just now

Could you let me know who won the league in 2022? I want to get a line on.

Billy Whizz
28-10-2018, 05:51 PM
Could you let me know who won the league in 2022? I want to get a line on.

Ha ha, meant 2011😄

Diclonius
28-10-2018, 05:54 PM
I agree.

But ive seen us win 7 games out of 65 at that dump. I’m programmed to be negative about it.

2 in 18 for me. I wonder if I'll ever see 7.

YanYansen
28-10-2018, 06:01 PM
2 in 18 for me. I wonder if I'll ever see 7.

I'm about the same! Gets pretty wearing after a while.

hibees 7062
28-10-2018, 06:09 PM
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Squirrel 1875
28-10-2018, 06:24 PM
Who cares if he is fit or not. Mon the Hibs.

Phil MaGlass
28-10-2018, 06:46 PM
Us to win by 2 or more goals on Wed

Hermit Crab
28-10-2018, 07:02 PM
Us to win by 2 or more goals on Wed


No chance!

Diclonius
28-10-2018, 07:16 PM
Us to win by 2 or more goals on Wed

Last time we did that there was December 1999 (Millenium derby). 18 years, 35 games ago. Highly unlikely.

bingo70
28-10-2018, 07:20 PM
Last time we did that there was December 1999 (Millenium derby). 18 years, 35 games ago. Highly unlikely.

Last time we won the Scottish cup before 2016 was 114 years previous and we know how that panned out.

Zazu62
28-10-2018, 07:20 PM
Last time we did that there was December 1999 (Millenium derby). 18 years, 35 games ago. Highly unlikely.

35 games wow that’s a shocker tbh

Danderhall Hibs
28-10-2018, 07:22 PM
Be season pretty much over if it is for him

Medial is usually only a few weeks.

rcarter1
28-10-2018, 07:22 PM
Last time we did that there was December 1999 (Millenium derby). 18 years, 35 games ago. Highly unlikely.

Great memories, but a bit of a shambles that we have not repeated this kind of win for so long. Not exactly expecting us to ammend that this Wednesday - but football is a funny game. We have goals in the team.

Franck Stanton
28-10-2018, 07:24 PM
Personally hope both of them play on wed. Let's face it, whoever they replaced them with would be an improvement as they are both rank. 😇

BullsCloseHibs
28-10-2018, 07:30 PM
If its Naismiths right knee then he's Donald Ducked. He did his right ACL in 2011 and was out for 11 months.

BullsCloseHibs
28-10-2018, 07:31 PM
https://scontent.fbhx3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/44895607_10218058915010647_5259794758032687104_n.j pg?_nc_cat=106&_nc_eui2=AeHZPVW0SqV-K2uN2awhqR6ldJGCJBV3WMCy7Hy9tBEw4eHB9vNkNychTfPhjt 94iCdMtmv66wk9VReL4pqJO0AOGV9KmiO9C5vhOi7mqZVPBw&_nc_ht=scontent.fbhx3-1.fna&oh=f0d619a16a9fe519f7b84c839f55b0c8&oe=5C7F12AA

Class! 😁

Hibbyradge
28-10-2018, 07:41 PM
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What am I looking at? :confused:

Billy Whizz
28-10-2018, 07:45 PM
They’ll just replace one wee scote, with another one in Cochrane

HibbyAndy
28-10-2018, 07:46 PM
What am I looking at? :confused:


The Karma factor

nonshinyfinish
28-10-2018, 07:56 PM
What am I looking at? :confused:

A rudimentary photoshop combining Naismith standing over Christie having just injured him with Naismith lying on the ground injured.

Hibbyradge
28-10-2018, 07:57 PM
A rudimentary photoshop combining Naismith standing over Christie having just injured him with Naismith lying on the ground injured.

I see. Thanks.

Crab apple
28-10-2018, 07:58 PM
:greengrin
https://scontent.fbhx3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/44895607_10218058915010647_5259794758032687104_n.j pg?_nc_cat=106&_nc_eui2=AeHZPVW0SqV-K2uN2awhqR6ldJGCJBV3WMCy7Hy9tBEw4eHB9vNkNychTfPhjt 94iCdMtmv66wk9VReL4pqJO0AOGV9KmiO9C5vhOi7mqZVPBw&_nc_ht=scontent.fbhx3-1.fna&oh=f0d619a16a9fe519f7b84c839f55b0c8&oe=5C7F12AA

Billy Whizz
28-10-2018, 08:00 PM
A rudimentary photoshop combining Naismith standing over Christie having just injured him with Naismith lying on the ground injured.

Presume you mean Johnny Hayes?

nonshinyfinish
28-10-2018, 08:02 PM
Presume you mean Johnny Hayes?

Indeed I do, although to be fair to me he's not in the picture. :doh:

Itsnoteasy
28-10-2018, 08:11 PM
Rangers fan was given 9 months in jail for a quick grab of a stewerdesses boob recently... You saying folk grabbing someone balls doesn't compare?


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If that's the case Schumacker taking out Battiston in world cup would have given the man in the street GBH or attempted murder.

Iggy Pope
28-10-2018, 08:20 PM
Last time we did that there was December 1999 (Millenium derby). 18 years, 35 games ago. Highly unlikely.

Every time I read your posts about derby games my screen quivers. For such a ferocious sounding username you're not half a patsy wee man.

HibbiesandtheBaddies
28-10-2018, 08:46 PM
They would rather win on Wednesday than today

:agree:

Hibernian32
29-10-2018, 10:26 AM
Who gives a monkeys just get tore into them from the go:nlgwa

SirDavidsNapper
29-10-2018, 10:34 AM
Seen Hibs and Hearts taking a skelping then winning the derby in the next game quite often. Sure we beat Hearts a few days after Rangers (RIP) pumped us 7-0 for example. We'll need to be on top of our game whatever team they put out.

Hibbyradge
29-10-2018, 10:41 AM
Seen Hibs and Hearts taking a skelping then winning the derby in the next game quite often. Sure we beat Hearts a few days after Rangers (RIP) pumped us 7-0 for example. We'll need to be on top of our game whatever team they put out.

We did.

Lavetty and Harper in a 2-1 win, iirc.

flash
29-10-2018, 11:01 AM
Jeez I hope the team have more cojones than a few punters on here.

HUTCHYHIBBY
29-10-2018, 11:08 AM
19/10 for Hibs on Wednesday, not a bad price.

Elephant Stone
29-10-2018, 11:15 AM
Jeez I hope the team have more cojones than a few punters on here.

It won't be easy, they will be organised, defensive and have a siege mentality because of the injuries. Wouldn't be surprised if they play 5-4-1 or 4-5-1 and foul their way through the game.

SquashedFrogg
29-10-2018, 11:22 AM
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Photoshop disaster 😂

Diclonius
29-10-2018, 11:27 AM
Seen Hibs and Hearts taking a skelping then winning the derby in the next game quite often. Sure we beat Hearts a few days after Rangers (RIP) pumped us 7-0 for example. We'll need to be on top of our game whatever team they put out.

Derby record after a defeat, last ten years:
Hearts: Played 15, won 8, drew 4, lost 3. Win rate 53%, loss rate 20%
Hibs: Played 12, won 2, drew 3, lost 7. Win rate 17%, loss rate 58%

Pagan Hibernia
29-10-2018, 11:30 AM
We did.

Lavetty and Harper in a 2-1 win, iirc.

Even last season we beat hearts convincingly (despite the slender 1-0 shoreline) a few days after losing the semifinal to Celtic at Hampden

Phil MaGlass
29-10-2018, 11:31 AM
An early Hibs goal and we could win by a few

makaveli1875
29-10-2018, 11:47 AM
An early Hibs goal and we could win by a few

Been watching Hibs for almost 30 years and i can count on 1 finger the number of times we've won by a few at the bus shelter . Its never easy on their shrunken tattie field , they dont lose many at home , we can win but its not going to be easy

Diclonius
29-10-2018, 11:54 AM
Been watching Hibs for almost 30 years and i can count on 1 finger the number of times we've won by a few at the bus shelter . Its never easy on their shrunken tattie field , they dont lose many at home , we can win but its not going to be easy

Since 7-0 the only game we've won there by more than one goal was the Millennium derby. Prior to 1973 it was fairly regular.

JimboHibs
29-10-2018, 12:18 PM
An early Hibs goal and we could win by a few

So if we lose an early goal could we lose by a few.

The 90+2
29-10-2018, 12:19 PM
Potter said Naismith felt something gonin his knee. If he plays he will be crap.

Haring (who was annoumous) is no back to square one so will go for op.
So out for a couple of months.

Hearts will now revert to type A hoof ball and expect lots of injuries on Wednesday

He’s away to be assessed by the Norwich medical staff today. He is out Weds. 100%

The 90+2
29-10-2018, 12:19 PM
So if we lose an early goal could we lose by a few.

No, an early goal would mean the cloggers have to come at us leaving gaps and not just playing anti football.

The 90+2
29-10-2018, 12:21 PM
Since 7-0 the only game we've won there by more than one goal was the Millennium derby. Prior to 1973 it was fairly regular.

19th 1999 was my 16th birthday - and I was there 😀

Smartie
29-10-2018, 12:30 PM
Our record there certainly isn't great, but even when we've gone with decent sides in the past they haven't had the attitude and grit of Neil Lennon's Hibs side.

They've not pumped us in a very long while - they've edged us by the odd goal in a close game twice in a few years, and we've drawn loads.

We've got little to fear, and with the injuries and weight of expectation that they have, I think they've got far more to be scared about than we do.

I don't expect to outplay and thrash them, but I think we can grab a win in a game where even a draw would be good enough for me.

I cannot f'ing wait. This kind of game is what I'm in this for.

Sammy7nil
29-10-2018, 12:31 PM
19/10 for Hibs on Wednesday, not a bad price.

19-10 I thought that was a score prediction

brog
29-10-2018, 12:33 PM
Derby record after a defeat, last ten years:
Hearts: Played 15, won 8, drew 4, lost 3. Win rate 53%, loss rate 20%
Hibs: Played 12, won 2, drew 3, lost 7. Win rate 17%, loss rate 58%

Those numbers seem very strange. We weren't in the same league as them for 2 seasons & even allowing for cup games the max number of games can only be about 38. So for 70% of those games one of us lost the game prior to the derby? Bit of a statistical aberration.

Superfurry72
29-10-2018, 12:38 PM
We did.

Lavetty and Harper in a 2-1 win, iirc.

O’Neill and Harper. It was Jan 1, 1996. Lavety and Harper was in 1998. 😀

Diclonius
29-10-2018, 01:18 PM
Those numbers seem very strange. We weren't in the same league as them for 2 seasons & even allowing for cup games the max number of games can only be about 38. So for 70% of those games one of us lost the game prior to the derby? Bit of a statistical aberration.

I've gone through it pretty meticulously, should be correct!

From the beginning of season 08-09 there have been 35 derbies. Hearts had a bit of a knack for kick-starting good runs of form with a derby win, particularly from 09-12 and in the relegation season.

Stokesy's on fire
29-10-2018, 01:28 PM
same old Levein trick...Our players are all out..then ooh they made it

danhibees1875
29-10-2018, 01:29 PM
Those numbers seem very strange. We weren't in the same league as them for 2 seasons & even allowing for cup games the max number of games can only be about 38. So for 70% of those games one of us lost the game prior to the derby? Bit of a statistical aberration.

To be fair, we've both done exactly that for this game. :greengrin

Also, if we're talking about 35 derbies then you'd have to double it to find the number of games we'd each player prior to a derby, to 70.

So 27 of those 70 were defeats - 39%. :aok:

Bostonhibby
29-10-2018, 01:43 PM
Don't believe a word they say, these are the people who told their own fans they were self sufficient just before they went bust and they also claim to have a view of the castle from their hospitality [emoji23]

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brog
29-10-2018, 02:09 PM
To be fair, we've both done exactly that for this game. :greengrin

Also, if we're talking about 35 derbies then you'd have to double it to find the number of games we'd each player prior to a derby, to 70.

So 27 of those 70 were defeats - 39%. :aok:


Good point!
Separately, Naismith & MacLean, sounds like a firm of solicitors, have a combined age of 68. I'm not really sure we need to lose a lot of sleep over their availability on Wednesday.

Hibee87
29-10-2018, 04:42 PM
McLean looks set to be cited for his baw grabbing, but unlikely to happen before Derby.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/46019027

Billy Whizz
29-10-2018, 04:45 PM
McLean looks set to be cited for his baw grabbing, but unlikely to happen before Derby.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/46019027


I’d have thought if he gets a ban, it will apply to next years Betfred Cup

calumhibee1
29-10-2018, 04:50 PM
He’s away to be assessed by the Norwich medical staff today. He is out Weds. 100%

Hope it's a career ender. Wouldn't usually wish that on anyone but the way he was screaming and laughing in Jonny Hayes face while he was on the ground injured having just came back from a serious injury was an absolute disgrace and this would be karma at it's finest.

bigwheel
29-10-2018, 04:52 PM
Hope it's a career ender. Wouldn't usually wish that on anyone but the way he was screaming and laughing in Jonny Hayes face while he was on the ground injured was an absolute disgrace and this would be karma at it's finest.


that's a shocker of a comment...he's a footballer - not a war criminal

Hope he gets back to fitness for club and country ...if he wasn't a good player, nobody would care he is out.

Onion
29-10-2018, 04:56 PM
Lennon needs to have Hibs fired up for this one. With their injuries to key players and most of Hibs squad healthy, we'll rarely get a better chance to put one over them. As long as we stand up to them and have a real go (scoring goals is not our problem), can have no complaints. If we show fear and try to contain Hearts hoping to grab a winner, will be hugely disappointed.

Opportunity knocks and the Yams should be very worried about Wed.

calumhibee1
29-10-2018, 04:59 PM
that's a shocker of a comment...he's a footballer - not a war criminal

Hope he gets back to fitness for club and country ...if he wasn't a good player, nobody would care he is out.

I stand by it. I'm not wishing death on the guy or even some form of terminal ill health am I? Between manically laughing at a player writhing around on the ground in agony after just coming back from a serious injury to deliberately standing on someones balls and whatever else he gets up to in between the guy is an absolute ****bag on a football pitch. Sooner he's off it for good the better for everyones sake.

Heckys Wheel
29-10-2018, 05:04 PM
that's a shocker of a comment...he's a footballer - not a war criminal

Hope he gets back to fitness for club and country ...if he wasn't a good player, nobody would care he is out.

That’s exactly my point. Hearts best player this season and talking about signing a pre-contract with them when he leaves Norwich.

Hope it’s a career ender and leaves hearts weakened.

The fact he’s a horrible ******* would only make it sweeter.

bigwheel
29-10-2018, 05:08 PM
I stand by it. I'm not wishing death on the guy or even some form of terminal ill health am I? Between manically laughing at a player writhing around on the ground in agony after just coming back from a serious injury to deliberately standing on someones balls and whatever else he gets up to in between the guy is an absolute ****bag on a football pitch. Sooner he's off it for good the better for everyones sake.


...these things you quote happen on a football pitch all the time. Take a step back....Why would you wish anyone a career ending injury? just childish and spiteful...if he wore our strip, we'd love him.

Spike Mandela
29-10-2018, 05:12 PM
that's a shocker of a comment...he's a footballer - not a war criminal

Hope he gets back to fitness for club and country ...if he wasn't a good player, nobody would care he is out.

I am only interested and concerned in Hibs players fitness. I get no pleasure out of other teams injuries but by the same token I actually couldn’t give a toss. It’s part and parcel of the game for all teams.

bigwheel
29-10-2018, 05:12 PM
That’s exactly my point. Hearts best player this season and talking about signing a pre-contract with them when he leaves Norwich.

Hope it’s a career ender and leaves hearts weakened.

The fact he’s a horrible ******* would only make it sweeter.


People that know him say he is a really nice guy off the pitch....just a real winner on it...What's wrong with that - we loved Scott Brown for it.


I can't understand why anyone would wish ANY player a career ending injury

calumhibee1
29-10-2018, 05:13 PM
...these things you quote happen on a football pitch all the time. Take a step back....Why would you wish anyone a career ending injury? just childish and spiteful...if he wore our strip, we'd love him.

I genuinely can't think of another incident where a player has stood over an injured player laughing in his face. Not saying it hasn't happened but it's certainly not something that happens "all the time".

I gave my reasons for wishing him a career ending injury - football would be better for it due to his ****my, *****bag antics being taken out of it. Someone like John Souttar or Berra on the other hand I certainly wouldn't wish it on because they comes across as fairly honest pro's.

Would you have wished El Hadji Diouf, widely regarded as one of the most horrible players to have played in the modern era a speedy recovery had he had a bad injury? I know I wouldn't have.

I wish Naismith no harm off the pitch. But football would be a better place without people like him IMO.

bigwheel
29-10-2018, 05:22 PM
I genuinely can't think of another incident where a player has stood over an injured player laughing in his face. Not saying it hasn't happened but it's certainly not something that happens "all the time".

I gave my reasons for wishing him a career ending injury - football would be better for it due to his ****my, *****bag antics being taken out of it. Someone like John Souttar or Berra on the other hand I certainly wouldn't wish it on because they comes across as fairly honest pro's.

Would you have wished El Hadji Diouf, widely regarded as one of the most horrible players to have played in the modern era a speedy recovery had he had a bad injury? I know I wouldn't have.

I wish Naismith no harm off the pitch. But football would be a better place without people like him IMO.


hahahaha. come on..just ridiculous

what would have been your views on Neil Lennon when he was a player? He was every bit as snarling and taunting as Naismith every is..much more actually. Wish he never played again too?

calumhibee1
29-10-2018, 05:40 PM
hahahaha. come on..just ridiculous

what would have been your views on Neil Lennon when he was a player? He was every bit as snarling and taunting as Naismith every is..much more actually. Wish he never played again too?

You think a guy that goes around mocking players who may be seriously injured, stamping on peoples balls in a deliberate attempt to cause serious damage etc is welcome on a football pitch? Is that all just part of being a real "winner"?

If Neil Lennon acted the way Naismith did on a football pitch I'd probably have thought the same. There's a difference though to being a hard competitive player who puts the boot in and being a coward who's looking to deliberately do damage to other players like Naismith. I don't remember Lennon ever laughing at someone who was down injured (not a lot different from what I'm doing with Naismith to be honest so not sure why he deserves better in return) or stamping on peoples balls (Lennon may well of before someone comes and proves me wrong :greengrin).

bigwheel
29-10-2018, 05:47 PM
You think a guy that goes around mocking players who may be seriously injured, stamping on peoples balls in a deliberate attempt to cause serious damage etc is welcome on a football pitch? Is that all just part of being a real "winner"?

If Neil Lennon acted the way Naismith did on a football pitch I'd probably have thought the same. There's a difference though to being a hard competitive player who puts the boot in and being a coward who's looking to deliberately do damage to other players like Naismith. I don't remember Lennon ever laughing at someone who was down injured (not a lot different from what I'm doing with Naismith to be honest so not sure why he deserves better in return) or stamping on peoples balls (Lennon may well of before someone comes and proves me wrong :greengrin).

Is he going out with your ex?? :greengrin You are making a big thing out of a couple of examples - he has had a good career. Yes, I agree - a nasty whinging piece on the park, but that's just part of his competitive character. He's not a player with a history of injuring (or seeking to injure) players. He has had quite a few bad ones himself mind you.

We'd worship him if he played for us..

calumhibee1
29-10-2018, 05:51 PM
Is he going out with your ex?? :greengrin You are making a big thing out of a couple of examples - he has had a good career. Yes, I agree - a nasty whinging piece on the park, but that's just part of his competitive character. He's not a player with a history of injuring (or seeking to injure) players. He has had quite a few bad ones himself mind you.

We'd worship him if he played for us..

How does he not have a history of doing something that he’s done :confused: I’m not debating his quality of a player, I just think he’s an absolute rat.

We’ll agree to disagree on this one. You can wish him well, I’ll keep my fingers crossed that he never kicks a ball again.

bigwheel
29-10-2018, 06:03 PM
How does he not have a history of doing something that he’s done :confused: I’m not debating his quality of a player, I just think he’s an absolute rat.

We’ll agree to disagree on this one. You can wish him well, I’ll keep my fingers crossed that he never kicks a ball again.


The magic of fitba fans!

Hibbyradge
29-10-2018, 06:09 PM
O’Neill and Harper. It was Jan 1, 1996. Lavety and Harper was in 1998. 😀

Cheers 👍

RIP Bestie
30-10-2018, 02:18 AM
Oh you bet your bottom dollar Naismith will make it! Even if he has to be doped to the eyeballs in painkillers he will make it on Wednesday without a doubt. If it had been anyone other than us they were played Levein and co probably would have just rested him but because it's us they will risk him IMO.

Dont know if anyone else has mentioned this as cant be bothered reading through all the posts on this but lets not forget he is only in loan to them. If Norwich dont want him to play he wont play he's their asset and they wont have Hearts taking chances with him

Famous Fiver
30-10-2018, 06:40 AM
Correct.

Even with FOH donations I doubt the Jambos can afford the £55k a week he is reputed to be on at Norwich.

Elephant Stone
30-10-2018, 06:56 AM
The magic of fitba fans!

Whats wrong with that?

Allant1981
30-10-2018, 07:02 AM
sky sports only saying he is a doubt, i wouldnt be surprised to see him playing tomorrow night, hope he does play as it makes it all the better when we beat them as all the excuses will be about the amount of injuries they have

bingo70
30-10-2018, 07:21 AM
Correct.

Even with FOH donations I doubt the Jambos can afford the £55k a week he is reputed to be on at Norwich.

Why would they need to pay him £55k a week?

JimBHibees
30-10-2018, 07:27 AM
Not a chance Naismith will play wednesday and even if he does so what it is what we do that matters.

Fuzzywuzzy
30-10-2018, 08:48 AM
Can see naismith signing a pre-contract for the rangers. They are clearly desperately light and he was whooring himself to them before he went to hearts

SirDavidsNapper
30-10-2018, 08:49 AM
Can see naismith signing a pre-contract for the rangers. They are clearly desperately light and he was whooring himself to them before he went to hearts

I think it's a cert

oldbutdim
30-10-2018, 09:36 AM
Can see naismith signing a pre-contract for the rangers. They are clearly desperately light and he was whooring himself to them before he went to hearts

He's turned into the sort of player that absolutely fits with The Rangers.

An odious wee rat.

If calumhibee1 doesn't get his way, then seeing the bawbag cackling at the Gunts as he joins their big brothers, and possibly stamping on the heehaws of one of the Gorgie 'stars' may be a second best option.

I'm ambivalent.

Heisenberg
30-10-2018, 10:05 AM
Naismith out for 6 to 8 weeks according to Levein.

Peevemor
30-10-2018, 10:06 AM
Naismith out for 6 to 8 weeks according to Levein.

He'll definitely be playing tomorrow night then...

Not In The Know
30-10-2018, 10:10 AM
Naismith oot 6-8 weeks. Lol

calumhibee1
30-10-2018, 10:12 AM
Naismith out for 6 to 8 weeks according to Levein.

Shame.

Funkydunc
30-10-2018, 10:12 AM
Correct.

Even with FOH donations I doubt the Jambos can afford the £55k a week he is reputed to be on at Norwich.

They are only paying 3k this season, down from 10k last. God knows how they managed to negotiate that deal.

BOB MARLEYS DUG
30-10-2018, 10:13 AM
So who’s all out then?

Berra
Souttar
Pikchu
Naismith?

Any others?

calumhibee1
30-10-2018, 10:15 AM
So who’s all out then?

Berra
Souttar
Pikchu
Naismith?

Any others?

Boy in centre mid, number 5. Can’t mind his name, sure he’s out?

danhibees1875
30-10-2018, 10:16 AM
Can see naismith signing a pre-contract for the rangers. They are clearly desperately light and he was whooring himself to them before he went to hearts

Would Rangers want him?

Candais and Kent both look much better options - in all honesty, Rangers look like they're amassing a squad that will establish the old duopoly (although, they're a clear second) and I don't think they'd be after someone like Naismith. Although, the same would apply to Lafferty right enough.

BOB MARLEYS DUG
30-10-2018, 10:17 AM
Boy in centre mid, number 5. Can’t mind his name, sure he’s out?

Haring?

danhibees1875
30-10-2018, 10:17 AM
Boy in centre mid, number 5. Can’t mind his name, sure he’s out?

Harring?

It would be good if he was out. :agree:

Zazu62
30-10-2018, 10:18 AM
Would Rangers want him?

Candais and Kent both look much better options - in all honesty, Rangers look like they're amassing a squad that will establish the old duopoly (although, they're a clear second) and I don't think they'd be after someone like Naismith. Although, the same would apply to Lafferty right enough.

Naismith is exactly the type of player rangers are missing

bingo70
30-10-2018, 10:20 AM
There does seem to be an unusually high number of long term injuries coming from Hearts, I wonder if any of it can be attributed to coaching methods or poor squad rotation?

There is a Dutch guy who's name escapes me, he is convinced there is a strong correlation between training methods and injuries. He slated one of our previous managers, (Stubbs maybe?) for old school pre-season training methods and he ended up being proven correct as we struggled with injuries that season. I think he was also involved with Napoli at the time and they went something ridiculous like 2 years without a player picking up a muscular injury.

This genuinely isn't a dig at Potter, just an observation that maybe it's not just bad luck they're suffering from.

FWIW i think Potter hung the likes of Cochrane and other youngsters out to dry last season by playing them too much for his own gains rather than what was best for their development.

Hibs4185
30-10-2018, 10:22 AM
SSN saying Naismith out for 6-8 weeks

Probably tactics from the yams though

SirDavidsNapper
30-10-2018, 10:27 AM
Karma. Standing over injured players taunting them. Zero sympathy.

Springbank
30-10-2018, 10:29 AM
There does seem to be an unusually high number of long term injuries coming from Hearts, I wonder if any of it can be attributed to coaching methods or poor squad rotation?

There is a Dutch guy who's name escapes me, he is convinced there is a strong correlation between training methods and injuries. He slated one of our previous managers, (Stubbs maybe?) for old school pre-season training methods and he ended up being proven correct as we struggled with injuries that season. I think he was also involved with Napoli at the time and they went something ridiculous like 2 years without a player picking up a muscular injury.

This genuinely isn't a dig at Potter, just an observation that maybe it's not just bad luck they're suffering from.

FWIW i think Potter hung the likes of Cochrane and other youngsters out to dry last season by playing them too much for his own gains rather than what was best for their development.

There is no such thing as bad luck or coincidence with these things.

The next one who will be a long term injury across in Gorgie will probably be their new kid, Sean Clare.

Potter will rush him in too much too soon and then will blame bad luck and coincidence when he has to get surgery.

calumhibee1
30-10-2018, 10:29 AM
Haring?

Thats him. Sure it was mentioned on here he was risked on Sunday but now needs a hernia op?

Big_Franck
30-10-2018, 10:32 AM
Wee shame for Naismith. Hope he's out even longer.

JimBHibees
30-10-2018, 10:34 AM
Wee shame for Naismith. Hope he's out even longer.

So might be struggling for the next derby also.

makaveli1875
30-10-2018, 10:34 AM
Naismith is pish , the only difference him not playing will make is our players will have a couple less bruises each and their ear drums intact at the end of the game

Hibiza
30-10-2018, 10:35 AM
Karma. Standing over injured players taunting them. Zero sympathy.

:top marks

SirDavidsNapper
30-10-2018, 10:39 AM
Naismith is pish , the only difference him not playing will make is our players will have a couple less bruises each and their ear drums intact at the end of the game

I disagree. He'd walk into any team outside Celtic on current form.

Hibs4185
30-10-2018, 10:54 AM
Just read that McLean could be cited as the law was changed in the summer. That kind of offence is called ‘brutality’

A hearts player charged with brutality.

Never seen such a more accurate phrase

The 90+2
30-10-2018, 10:58 AM
He’s away to be assessed by the Norwich medical staff today. He is out Weds. 100%


https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/46031404 :wink:

PatHead
30-10-2018, 11:02 AM
There does seem to be an unusually high number of long term injuries coming from Hearts, I wonder if any of it can be attributed to coaching methods or poor squad rotation?

There is a Dutch guy who's name escapes me, he is convinced there is a strong correlation between training methods and injuries. He slated one of our previous managers, (Stubbs maybe?) for old school pre-season training methods and he ended up being proven correct as we struggled with injuries that season. I think he was also involved with Napoli at the time and they went something ridiculous like 2 years without a player picking up a muscular injury.

This genuinely isn't a dig at Potter, just an observation that maybe it's not just bad luck they're suffering from.

FWIW i think Potter hung the likes of Cochrane and other youngsters out to dry last season by playing them too much for his own gains rather than what was best for their development.
I am sure Leicester adopted some anti muscle injury philosophy in their training in the season they won the league.

Hermit Crab
30-10-2018, 11:03 AM
Harring?

It would be good if he was out. :agree:


He's a very good player but he has a hernia issue, he was rushed back too quickly and on Sunday it flared up again. He needs an op now.

Cabbie1875
30-10-2018, 11:05 AM
I will say that a wounded animal can be dangerous and we still need to watch these horrible baskets, but we have a good chance of turning em over at the pbs the first in 5 years

As far as Naismith's injury is concerned, i do hope its nowt trivial!!!

SouthMoroccoStu
30-10-2018, 11:05 AM
Just read that McLean could be cited as the law was changed in the summer. That kind of offence is called ‘brutality’

A hearts player charged with brutality.

Never seen such a more accurate phrase

So he should be

No idea what posest him to do that

Due to tv, everything is seen nowadays

Whether the authorities act is another matter entirely

Hermit Crab
30-10-2018, 11:11 AM
Just read that McLean could be cited as the law was changed in the summer. That kind of offence is called ‘brutality’

A hearts player charged with brutality.

Never seen such a more accurate phrase


If he plays on Wednesday I think he's a cert for a card. He's a dirty bar steward.

Billy Whizz
30-10-2018, 11:12 AM
I will say that a wounded animal can be dangerous and we still need to watch these horrible baskets, but we have a good chance of turning em over at the pbs the first in 5 years

As far as Naismith's injury is concerned, i do hope its nowt trivial!!!

I agree
We’ve been beaten at Tynie by far worse Hearts teams than this one

The_Horde
30-10-2018, 11:14 AM
Naismith out 6-8 weeks.. after the derby, when he'll get a wee operation?

Diclonius
30-10-2018, 11:14 AM
I agree
We’ve been beaten at Tynie by far worse Hearts teams than this one

To be fair, our team was pretty bad too. Then again, Lennon's team of largely cup winners couldn't win there against Cathro (and battered them at ER).

The 90+2
30-10-2018, 11:16 AM
Naismith out 6-8 weeks.. after the derby, when he'll get a wee operation?

The good news for Hertz is they won't have to pay for the operation therefore wont need to risk injured players like they done Berra last season. :agree:

basehibby
30-10-2018, 11:17 AM
Just read that McLean could be cited as the law was changed in the summer. That kind of offence is called ‘brutality’

A hearts player charged with brutality.

Never seen such a more accurate phrase

That would be brilliant if he's out for the derby along with Naismith.

NB - some of the comments on this thread wishing career ending injuries on Naismith ....... spiteful, disgusting and vile - have a bloody good look at yourselves :fuming:

JimBHibees
30-10-2018, 11:18 AM
That would be brilliant if he's out for the derby along with Naismith.

NB - some of the comments on this thread wishing career ending injuries on Naismith ....... spiteful, disgusting and vile - have a bloody good look at yourselves :fuming:

Couldnt agree more at the end of the day only a football game.

calumhibee1
30-10-2018, 11:18 AM
That would be brilliant if he's out for the derby along with Naismith.

NB - some of the comments on this thread wishing career ending injuries on Naismith ....... spiteful, disgusting and vile - have a bloody good look at yourselves :fuming:

Made a rod for his own back with his own actions on the pitch since he’s came back up the road.

JimBHibees
30-10-2018, 11:19 AM
Made a rod for his own back with his own actions on the pitch.

Two wrongs and all that.

calumhibee1
30-10-2018, 11:23 AM
Two wrongs and all that.

True. Would still have absolutely no sympathy for him if he did. The game would be a better place without rats like him trying to hurt folk.

Diclonius
30-10-2018, 11:34 AM
Naismith is pish , the only difference him not playing will make is our players will have a couple less bruises each and their ear drums intact at the end of the game

He's scored 11 goals already this season and scored in the last derby. Him being out is a boost to our chances.

Diclonius
30-10-2018, 11:35 AM
If they're both out then as far as I can see their only remaining first team striker is Craig Wighton.

mutley
30-10-2018, 11:36 AM
eAbout the maclean thing, I think the BBC says that the compliance officer is involved but the appeal process will mean he is still eligible for the Derby and any 2-match ban would be after the game on wednesday.

scoopyboy
30-10-2018, 11:41 AM
]Naismith is pish[/B] , the only difference him not playing will make is our players will have a couple less bruises each and their ear drums intact at the end of the game

He's a rat but he's not pish.

If you think he is then in my opinion you've not got a very good understanding of the game.

Not In The Know
30-10-2018, 11:50 AM
eAbout the maclean thing, I think the BBC says that the compliance officer is involved but the appeal process will mean he is still eligible for the Derby and any 2-match ban would be after the game on wednesday.

Scottish football shambles as per.

Did they not gain an advantage from this in the last match with ... was it Naismith?

GreenCastle
30-10-2018, 11:51 AM
I posted this a few weeks ago about the other long term injuries..

You have to ask questions of the Hearts staff surely?

Earlier in season Lafferty was made to continue when it was clear he was struggling in the Bet Fred Cup game away to Raith.

Berra has had previous with head injuries and coming back from concussion very quickly - March derby for example.

Ikpeazu played against Rangers after been out for several games - obviously a desperate move and one which has back fired.

Souttar has hardly had a rest since coming back from achilles injury. Playing for the numpty national team must make it worse for the yam fans also.

Djoum last season - also tried to play him when he wasn't right = long term injury.

Mitchell - last season injured - Hearts tried to play him - went to Man Utd to get checked and out for weeks.

Naismith - played in nearly every game and including Scotland with travelling etc - 6-8 weeks out.

There is a trend here...basically the yams are useless at managing players.

MacGruber
30-10-2018, 11:57 AM
Whispers of them making an emergency loan signing that will go through today..

Will find out later if just mind games

cabbageandribs1875
30-10-2018, 11:59 AM
Just read that McLean could be cited as the law was changed in the summer. That kind of offence is called ‘brutality’

A hearts player charged with brutality.

Never seen such a more accurate phrase


and he claims...

"It was just a laugh, just a coming together," the 36-year-old said. "If I went down every time a centre-half niggled me, I would be on my backside all day. It was just handbags."




that's a strange sense of humour he has, and it certainly wasn't 'handbags'.. it was sexual perversion...the kinky freak

flash
30-10-2018, 12:01 PM
Whispers of them making an emergency loan signing that will go through today..

Will find out later if just mind games

Not an available option in this division.

My_Wife_Camille
30-10-2018, 12:03 PM
Whispers of them making an emergency loan signing that will go through today..

Will find out later if just mind games
Pretty sure that's not possible in the Premiership

The 90+2
30-10-2018, 12:05 PM
Whispers of them making an emergency loan signing that will go through today..

Will find out later if just mind games

They won't be able to because of SN's injury before he's been completely assessed by Norwich :wink:

Col2
30-10-2018, 12:09 PM
Scottish football shambles as per.

Did they not gain an advantage from this in the last match with ... was it Naismith?

Yes and he scored the winner

calumhibee1
30-10-2018, 12:15 PM
Pretty sure that's not possible in the Premiership

That was my understanding aswell.

Peevemor
30-10-2018, 12:16 PM
That was my understanding aswell.

Goalkeepers only is it not?

green day
30-10-2018, 12:18 PM
Excellent news that the wee scrote is out on Wednesday.

I wonder what formation Levein will conjure up - include Wighton as number 2 to Maclean?

where'stheslope
30-10-2018, 12:21 PM
Just read that McLean could be cited as the law was changed in the summer. That kind of offence is called ‘brutality’

A hearts player charged with brutality.

Never seen such a more accurate phrase
Got to believe that brutality would also cover kicking someone on the shins when the ball is up field as Morellos did and got off.
Sorry to say but this season, season the amount of citations has gone down, but what has been cited has been a toss of a coin if it is then punished???

The 90+2
30-10-2018, 12:22 PM
Excellent news that the wee scrote is out on Wednesday.

I wonder what formation Levein will conjure up - include Wighton as number 2 to Maclean?

One up top, pack the midfield and pray to score via set piece or dodgy penalty from a hoof up the park. :agree:

Aldo
30-10-2018, 12:34 PM
I am not a Naismith fan but he has been their best player this season and would/could cause us issues.

If he is indeed missing tomorrow evening then that is one less goal threat to worry about.

I am however cautious and it would be silly to totally right them off given our record at Tiny!




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007
30-10-2018, 12:49 PM
I am not a Naismith fan but he has been their best player this season and would/could cause us injuries.

If he is indeed missing tomorrow evening then that is one less goal threat to worry about.

I am however cautious and it would be silly to totally right them off given our record at Tiny!




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ftfy

SouthMoroccoStu
30-10-2018, 12:56 PM
I posted this a few weeks ago about the other long term injuries..

You have to ask questions of the Hearts staff surely?

Earlier in season Lafferty was made to continue when it was clear he was struggling in the Bet Fred Cup game away to Raith.

Berra has had previous with head injuries and coming back from concussion very quickly - March derby for example.

Ikpeazu played against Rangers after been out for several games - obviously a desperate move and one which has back fired.

Souttar has hardly had a rest since coming back from achilles injury. Playing for the numpty national team must make it worse for the yam fans also.

Djoum last season - also tried to play him when he wasn't right = long term injury.

Mitchell - last season injured - Hearts tried to play him - went to Man Utd to get checked and out for weeks.

Naismith - played in nearly every game and including Scotland with travelling etc - 6-8 weeks out.

There is a trend here...basically the yams are useless at managing players.

You’re absolutely right

To me it says Hearts don’t care about the careers, safety and well-being of their players

The Mitchell one is the best example

He gets an injury, Hearts says he’s fine, Man U want their medical team to take a look, he’s then ruled out for practically the rest of the season

I’m surprised at Man U letting him go back to hearts - they were happy to risk a young talented player that isn’t theirs

Aldo
30-10-2018, 12:56 PM
ftfy

Tsk tsk!!


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James310
30-10-2018, 01:16 PM
and he claims...

"It was just a laugh, just a coming together," the 36-year-old said. "If I went down every time a centre-half niggled me, I would be on my backside all day. It was just handbags."




that's a strange sense of humour he has, and it certainly wasn't 'handbags'.. it was sexual perversion...the kinky freak

If he did that on the street he could very well have been arrested and found himself on a sexual assault charge and been on a register for a period of time.

Imagine if a man did that to a woman (Well same area) , there would be outrage and he would be in serious trouble.

Aim Here
30-10-2018, 01:19 PM
Excellent news that the wee scrote is out on Wednesday.

I wonder what formation Levein will conjure up - include Wighton as number 2 to Maclean?

Levein is no stranger to the 4-6-0 so being down to no strikers won't unduly phase him...

21.05.2016
30-10-2018, 01:21 PM
You’re absolutely right

To me it says Hearts don’t care about the careers, safety and well-being of their players

The Mitchell one is the best example

He gets an injury, Hearts says he’s fine, Man U want their medical team to take a look, he’s then ruled out for practically the rest of the season

I’m surprised at Man U letting him go back to hearts - they were happy to risk a young talented player that isn’t theirs

I'm suprised Man Utd didn't make more of an issue of that TBH let alone give him back to them. Very irresponsible player management, putting a players health and career at risk because they felt they had a better chance of winning with him in the team. Hearts, as per always, putting their own self interests before anything or anyone.

Players with minor niggles and injuries sometimes can get away with playing with injections etc but clearly Mitchells was far more serious than that given that Man Utd medical staff felt he had to be ruled out long term from football.

bingo70
30-10-2018, 01:30 PM
If he did that on the street he could very well have been arrested and found himself on a sexual assault charge and been on a register for a period of time.

Imagine if a man did that to a woman (Well same area) , there would be outrage and he would be in serious trouble.

That's crossed my mind too.

Firstly, i think it's ridiculous that it's got this far but that's the world we live in now. If Kouassi was to make a big deal about this then he could find himself in bother. In one sense i'm sure he won't and i hope he doesn't but on the other hand why should someone go to their work and have someone deliberately grab them there?

McLean was totally out of order and IMO it's not funny at all. I hope there's not too much made of it however it can't be accepted that this is just something footballers have to put up with.

Kato
30-10-2018, 01:33 PM
That's crossed my mind too.

Firstly, i think it's ridiculous that it's got this far but that's the world we live in now. If Kouassi was to make a big deal about this then he could find himself in bother. In one sense i'm sure he won't and i hope he doesn't but on the other hand why should someone go to their work and have someone deliberately grab them there?

McLean was totally out of order and IMO it's not funny at all. I hope there's not too much made of it however it can't be accepted that this is just something footballers have to put up with.

It's "just a laugh" though. Levien's players using Levien's vocabulary.

SirDavidsNapper
30-10-2018, 01:35 PM
You’re absolutely right

To me it says Hearts don’t care about the careers, safety and well-being of their players

The Mitchell one is the best example

He gets an injury, Hearts says he’s fine, Man U want their medical team to take a look, he’s then ruled out for practically the rest of the season

I’m surprised at Man U letting him go back to hearts - they were happy to risk a young talented player that isn’t theirs

They're now destroying his confidence by constantly playing him out of position. Shadow of the player they had last season apparently.

ancient hibee
30-10-2018, 01:38 PM
If he did that on the street he could very well have been arrested and found himself on a sexual assault charge and been on a register for a period of time.

Imagine if a man did that to a woman (Well same area) , there would be outrage and he would be in serious trouble.
But it wasn’t on the street it was on a football field .Equally if I tripped up or kicked someone in Princes Street I could well be arrested.Some of the posts on here are ludicrous.What McLean did has been going on for years.I remember Colin Stein did it to Alan Anderson in a Rangers vHearts game.Andetson told me that it was the most pain he’d experienced on the park.However he booted Stein up and down Tynecastle for the rest of the game and they called it a draw in the tunnel at full time.

bingo70
30-10-2018, 01:42 PM
But it wasn’t on the street it was on a football field .Equally if I tripped up or kicked someone in Princes Street I could well be arrested.Some of the posts on here are ludicrous.What McLean did has been going on for years.I remember Colin Stein did it to Alan Anderson in a Rangers vHearts game.Andetson told me that it was the most pain he’d experienced on the park.However he booted Stein up and down Tynecastle for the rest of the game and they called it a draw in the tunnel at full time.

Times have changed.

In the past it was a barmaids job to put up with drunk old blokes feeling their bums as it was 'just a laugh'. Now a barmaid would be within her rights to press charges against anyone doing something like that.

Is it ok for Kouassi to have his balls felt as he's a man? (you'd have trouble squeezing a female's balls right enough but i'm sure you know what i mean)

ancient hibee
30-10-2018, 01:53 PM
Times have changed.

In the past it was a barmaids job to put up with drunk old blokes feeling their bums as it was 'just a laugh'. Now a barmaid would be within her rights to press charges against anyone doing something like that.

Is it ok for Kouassi to have his balls felt as he's a man? (you'd have trouble squeezing a female's balls right enough but i'm sure you know what i mean)

It was a foull on the park.Thank you for the crash course in modern day sexual activities.Too be honest I am aware that times have changed although I must admit I don’t see the connection between sexually assaulting a woman and an age old way of trying to get an advantage on a football field .

stoneyburn hibs
30-10-2018, 01:54 PM
Hope the ref is on his game tomorrow. With all these injuries they're having to deal with Levein will have them fouling non stop to break up the play.

bingo70
30-10-2018, 02:01 PM
It was a foull on the park.Thank you for the crash course in modern day sexual activities.Too be honest I am aware that times have changed although I must admit I don’t see the connection between sexually assaulting a woman and an age old way of trying to get an advantage on a football field .

I'm not suggesting he should be put on the register or jail time or whatever else could happen to him if he did that on the street. My point is that what he did was really stupid and the fact it's always happened isn't really an acceptable defence.

JimBHibees
30-10-2018, 02:03 PM
Hope the ref is on his game tomorrow. With all these injuries they're having to deal with Levein will have them fouling non stop to break up the play.

Ref is Dallas tomorrow hope he has better game than Hamilton Gers.

SirDavidsNapper
30-10-2018, 02:06 PM
It was a foull on the park.Thank you for the crash course in modern day sexual activities.Too be honest I am aware that times have changed although I must admit I don’t see the connection between sexually assaulting a woman and an age old way of trying to get an advantage on a football field .

Maybe he fancied him? :dunno: Certainly looked like it.

Hermit Crab
30-10-2018, 02:12 PM
Hope the ref is on his game tomorrow. With all these injuries they're having to deal with Levein will have them fouling non stop to break up the play.


Andrew Dallas. Not the worst ref in the league but anyone is better than Don Robertson who only awarded us 2 fouls in the whole game at ParkHead but awarded Celtic 18. :confused:

Diclonius
30-10-2018, 02:13 PM
Didn't Bartley do something similar to a Dundee player last season?

My_Wife_Camille
30-10-2018, 02:16 PM
It was a foull on the park.Thank you for the crash course in modern day sexual activities.Too be honest I am aware that times have changed although I must admit I don’t see the connection between sexually assaulting a woman and an age old way of trying to get an advantage on a football field .
An ancient hibee with an ancient view on acceptable social conduct.

Deary me. I want to see these backwards thinking views on sexual harassment OUT of 21st century society and back into the 1940's where they belong.

JimBHibees
30-10-2018, 02:18 PM
Andrew Dallas. Not the worst ref in the league but anyone is better than Don Robertson who only awarded us 2 fouls in the whole game at ParkHead but awarded Celtic 18. :confused:

That Robertson stat is incredible.

SirDavidsNapper
30-10-2018, 02:25 PM
An ancient hibee with an ancient view on acceptable social conduct.

Deary me. I want to see these backwards thinking views on sexual harassment OUT of 21st century society and back into the 1940's where they belong.

Exactly. If he's been grabbing mens genitals for years then there's a list he should be on imo.

bingo70
30-10-2018, 02:27 PM
An ancient hibee with an ancient view on acceptable social conduct.

Deary me. I want to see these backwards thinking views on sexual harassment OUT of 21st century society and back into the 1940's where they belong.

I think the party line is that it's ok to sexually assault someone as long as it's a man.

I know the term sexual assault is a bit dramatic and as i said i don't want the guy jailed for it but if a woman had her 'private areas' grabbed in an aggressive way it would be classed as an assault. We don't know how Kouassi feels about it, if it really bothers him why should it be deemed acceptable for it to happen?

I remember similar happening on a stag doo i was on years ago, we were wearing kilts and this welsh woman put her hand up my mates kilt and grabbed his cock, she was clearly just joking but it bothered my mate to the point i think it ruined his night. At the time i remember laughing and thinking he was over reacting but looking back and how these incidents are viewed now i can probably see where he was coming from.

Hermit Crab
30-10-2018, 02:28 PM
That Robertson stat is incredible.


Couldn't believe myself. A football team only committing 2 fouls in a whole match while the opposition commits 18. Never ever seen that before in a professional match.

Hermit Crab
30-10-2018, 02:29 PM
Didn't Bartley do something similar to a Dundee player last season?


He fingered the Dundee players bum hole.

bingo70
30-10-2018, 02:31 PM
Couldn't believe myself. A football team only committing 2 fouls in a whole match while the opposition commits 18. Never ever seen that before in a professional match.

Seems plausible to me.

If they had a huge % of the ball, which apparently they did, it would seem reasonable they wouldn't need to commit many fouls whilst we would as we were under pressure defensively so inevitable we would commit fouls.

bingo70
30-10-2018, 02:32 PM
He fingered the Dundee players bum hole.


Eloquently put :greengrin

FWIW i think Bartley was lucky to get away with that too.

greenginger
30-10-2018, 02:36 PM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/46031404


Naisey out for a while then. Sent back to Norwich.

Hermit Crab
30-10-2018, 02:42 PM
Eloquently put :greengrin

FWIW i think Bartley was lucky to get away with that too.


I think he was lucky as well, Clear as day on the tv footage. Folk slating Mclean forget about big Marvs pokey bum incident? :greengrin

The 90+2
30-10-2018, 02:49 PM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/46031404


Naisey out for a while then. Sent back to Norwich.

Posted similar yesterday 👍

1van Sprou7e
30-10-2018, 02:52 PM
Eloquently put :greengrin

FWIW i think Bartley was lucky to get away with that too.

Maybe this incident is why they changed the rules

ancient hibee
30-10-2018, 02:57 PM
An ancient hibee with an ancient view on acceptable social conduct.

Deary me. I want to see these backwards thinking views on sexual harassment OUT of 21st century society and back into the 1940's where they belong.
Just as much as I would like to see posters on here who make offensive remarks about people they do not know sanctioned.

Salt N Sauzee
30-10-2018, 03:21 PM
Was there this much outrage when Bartley fingered that Dundee players bum?

Diclonius
30-10-2018, 03:23 PM
I think he was lucky as well, Clear as day on the tv footage. Folk slating Mclean forget about big Marvs pokey bum incident? :greengrin

Bet the level of hyperbole directed to MacLean is inversely proportional to how much Bartley's incident was ignored on here.

MacLean deserved to be punished; that's about it. It's as bad as any other red card offence.

Juniper Greens
30-10-2018, 03:23 PM
Here's one.
Not saying this is likely to happen, but if the Celtic player felt sexually assaulted, complained to the police. MacLean would have no defence and would be done. Given that, he surely had to be banned with no appeal allowed?

Green_one
30-10-2018, 03:26 PM
Seems plausible to me.

If they had a huge % of the ball, which apparently they did, it would seem reasonable they wouldn't need to commit many fouls whilst we would as we were under pressure defensively so inevitable we would commit fouls.

The possession as only 54 to 46, with corners favouring Hibs. Hardly keep ball. I am pretty sure the stat includes offside calls, which works against the team that attacks constantly. Just getting 2 fouls against you is remarkable, especially with Brown in your team. :confused:

Maybe just a homer who plays to the large Celtic support and the Old Firm must win logic. :cb

green day
30-10-2018, 03:34 PM
Andrew Dallas. Not the worst ref in the league but anyone is better than Don Robertson who only awarded us 2 fouls in the whole game at ParkHead but awarded Celtic 18. :confused:

IIRC, the first one was Broony in about 12 minute mark, the next one was the free kick that Mallan stuck wide then no more given.

It does seem inconceivable that a team would only commit 1 foul in 78 minutes of football !!!

basehibby
30-10-2018, 03:50 PM
An ancient hibee with an ancient view on acceptable social conduct.

Deary me. I want to see these backwards thinking views on sexual harassment OUT of 21st century society and back into the 1940's where they belong.

It's not sexual harrassment though it's gamesmanship - he was trying to put him off his game not angling for a spot of nookie

Deansy
30-10-2018, 03:54 PM
Their injury problems guarantees that they'll be even dirtier this Wednesday - thankfully we now have a Hibs-team more than capable of looking after itself !

Iggy Pope
30-10-2018, 04:00 PM
Their injury problems guarantees that they'll be even dirtier this Wednesday - thankfully we now have a Hibs-team more than capable of looking after itself !

If it gets much dirtier than poking fingers up bums and the cupping of bollox then we are in for some homo-erotic action.
Throw in Halloween I reckon we have a movie. Just don’t Google BBC for it.

lord bunberry
30-10-2018, 04:00 PM
IIRC, the first one was Broony in about 12 minute mark, the next one was the free kick that Mallan stuck wide then no more given.

It does seem inconceivable that a team would only commit 1 foul in 78 minutes of football !!!
I’m sure we didn’t get a free kick in the final 70 minutes

JeMeSouviens
30-10-2018, 04:03 PM
Maclean offered 2 match ban according to Sky. But can play if Hearts appeal.

Hibby70
30-10-2018, 04:07 PM
https://scontent.fbhx3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/44895607_10218058915010647_5259794758032687104_n.j pg?_nc_cat=106&_nc_eui2=AeHZPVW0SqV-K2uN2awhqR6ldJGCJBV3WMCy7Hy9tBEw4eHB9vNkNychTfPhjt 94iCdMtmv66wk9VReL4pqJO0AOGV9KmiO9C5vhOi7mqZVPBw&_nc_ht=scontent.fbhx3-1.fna&oh=f0d619a16a9fe519f7b84c839f55b0c8&oe=5C7F12AA

Pixar called, unfortunately you've not got the job.

heretoday
30-10-2018, 04:08 PM
Handbags? Mair like handbaws!

brog
30-10-2018, 04:09 PM
I’m sure we didn’t get a free kick in the final 70 minutes

I posted similar after the match. Quite incredible really.

HappyAsHellas
30-10-2018, 04:13 PM
Didn't Stokes rap that Dundee boy in the nuts last season? Seem to remember a lot of outrage as he went down holding his head but no one seemed very bothered about the incident itself. Different rules when it's us though I suppose.....

JimBHibees
30-10-2018, 04:14 PM
I posted similar after the match. Quite incredible really.

It is incredible given that Kamberi appeared to be fouled on a number of occasions and got nothing while given away a few very soft fouls. Something didnt seem right about that.

lord bunberry
30-10-2018, 04:17 PM
I posted similar after the match. Quite incredible really.
I can’t recall a game where it’s happened before. In a game that was end to end in the second half it’s inconceivable that there wasn’t a foul for us. I remember Kamberi getting a few dodgy challenges that were waived aside.

Hibbyradge
30-10-2018, 04:24 PM
2 game ban according to Michael Stewart on twitter.

Hibbyradge
30-10-2018, 04:25 PM
https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hearts

SouthMoroccoStu
30-10-2018, 04:25 PM
Maclean offered 2 match ban according to Sky. But can play if Hearts appeal.

They’ll appeal, same as they did for Naismith before the final derby last season

Sadly they’re perfectly within their rights to do so but it makes a mockery of the banning and suspension rules

Hibbyradge
30-10-2018, 04:27 PM
They’ll appeal, same as they did for Naismith before the final derby last season

Sadly they’re perfectly within their rights to do so but it makes a mockery of the banning and suspension rules

The ban doesn't start till after the derby.

SouthMoroccoStu
30-10-2018, 04:30 PM
The ban doesn't start till after the derby.

Didn’t appreciate that!

Even bigger joke

So, excuse my ignorance, why is that?

Diclonius
30-10-2018, 04:32 PM
Didn’t appreciate that!

Even bigger joke

So, excuse my ignorance, why is that?

To give them time to appeal.