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Last Minute
08-10-2018, 08:20 AM
just before half time we bought 2 pies and a coffee, got to our seat to find the Pies brick hard and I mean break hard. I could not even break the crust with my fingers. Took them back and the girl said sorry I'll check the ovens for 2 softer ones. She checked all 3 ovens and all the pies were the same brick hard as they have been in the ovens too long. She give us our moneys back. During the 2nd half a guy just along from us was trying to eat a pie and was saying its brick hard, told him to take it back which he did. I went down to see how he got on and the catering manageress was there. I explained what had happed and told her about the catering here and all she said was it was Hibs Management that tell them when to put the ovens on and off. I told her this was absolutely nonsense and walked away. I'm so surprised there is not a lot of fans here complaining today as when she checked the ovens for me at half time all the pies were brick hard. When are the Fans Reps going to do something about this? we keep complaining about this and they say they will look into it but nothing happens. must be the Worst Catering in Scotland.

Anyone else have any problems with the quality of food on Saturday at the game.

Kojock
08-10-2018, 08:23 AM
Tracey Smith was asking fans who had a poor catering experience on Saturday to email her.

Here’s the FB post
Not the first pie complaint I’ve had today. Can anyone who had a pie or any food that wasn’t to a certain standard please email me the details at tsmith@hibernianfc.co.uk

Fife-Hibee
08-10-2018, 08:26 AM
Stopped buying it years ago for the same reason ! So nothing has changed since then! Do the sensible thing like many others and buy something before you get to the ground !

Ronniekirk
08-10-2018, 08:31 AM
They had run out of Pies in the East by the time I got to the front of the Que so they must of went down well there

Carheenlea
08-10-2018, 08:45 AM
The worst catering experienced I’ve had at Easter Road is a steak pie occasionally falling to bits in the tin foil, which I can live with, but other than that I’be never had anything to complain too much about. No better or worse than any other ground in Scotland for me, Dunfermline excepted.

Last Minute
08-10-2018, 09:09 AM
if you do have a complaint about the food at Easter road can we all email tsmith@hibernian.co.uk . Its not right that the catering department just keep churning out this rubbish and we just put up with it. The quality is a joke and I know many say just don't buy it or get something from a baker etc before the game, why should we. Match day at the football has always been about a pie and Bovril at half time while enjoying the football. Why don't they use the pies we get served at hospitality upstairs ? . oh no they have lovely cooked at the correct temperature steak and gravy pies, not the brick hard roasting hot burnt day crap we get.

portyfelly
08-10-2018, 09:10 AM
Its the product on sale not the staff serving.
I have always found the staff do best they can. The product on offer is not good. Worst product with biggest margin

Last Minute
08-10-2018, 09:19 AM
Its the product on sale not the staff serving.
I have always found the staff do best they can. The product on offer is not good. Worst product with biggest margin

Spot on, can we all email Tracey the fans rep at tsmith@hibernian.co.uk and let her know so she can pass this on. We all take time to post on here so please just take a couple of minutes and email Tracey.

JimboHibs
08-10-2018, 09:32 AM
if you do have a complaint about the food at Easter road can we all email tsmith@hibernian.co.uk . Its not right that the catering department just keep churning out this rubbish and we just put up with it. The quality is a joke and I know many say just don't buy it or get something from a baker etc before the game, why should we. Match day at the football has always been about a pie and Bovril at half time while enjoying the football. Why don't they use the pies we get served at hospitality upstairs ? . oh no they have lovely cooked at the correct temperature steak and gravy pies, not the brick hard roasting hot burnt day crap we get.

If match day has always been about pie and Bovril,why did you buy pie & coffee ?

The plot thickens hmmm.

MWHIBBIES
08-10-2018, 09:35 AM
if you do have a complaint about the food at Easter road can we all email tsmith@hibernian.co.uk . Its not right that the catering department just keep churning out this rubbish and we just put up with it. The quality is a joke and I know many say just don't buy it or get something from a baker etc before the game, why should we. Match day at the football has always been about a pie and Bovril at half time while enjoying the football. Why don't they use the pies we get served at hospitality upstairs ? . oh no they have lovely cooked at the correct temperature steak and gravy pies, not the brick hard roasting hot burnt day crap we get.
Match day is about watching the team, not pies.

NAE NOOKIE
08-10-2018, 09:47 AM
There seems to be a big staff turnover, which though hardly surprising probably doesn't help things. I always buy a steak pie and a Bovril before kick off and for the first time I can remember my pie was cold on Saturday.

Its not unusual for my steak pie to become a mince pie between the stall and my seat and one time my Bovril turned into a coffee … I hate coffee and nearly spat my first sip all over the guy in front of me :confused: They do seem to have solved the problem of the pies sticking to the foil though, which was usually the norm.

I don't think the catering is as bad as is sometimes made out …. but lets face it, at £5.10 for a pie and Bovril it could be better, I doubt I would be prepared to pay as much as that in a café and I do think the club should recognise folk tolerate the pricing because they support the club, not because they think what they are buying is good value.

Last Minute
08-10-2018, 09:48 AM
If match day has always been about pie and Bovril,why did you buy pie & coffee ?

The plot thickens hmmm.

Cos they had no Bovril left... :na na:

J-C
08-10-2018, 09:51 AM
The only thing I'll buy is a bovril in the colder months, the rest is over priced tasteless guff, coffee tastes like dishwater and the food is disgusting for the prices.

Hibbyradge
08-10-2018, 09:54 AM
Match day is about watching the team, not pies.

Match day is about watching the pies.i call it pie day.

Mind you, I've been calling every day pie day for a while now.

Since90+2
08-10-2018, 09:58 AM
Baynes on Easter Road scotch pies are quality and only £1.05. Half price of Easter Road and far better quality.

ToffeeCabbage
08-10-2018, 10:22 AM
The pies really aren't great but it never bothered me that much until I started regularly going to away games and seeing the difference.
St Mirren last week being an example where the pricing was far cheaper with a good meal deal type option for kids

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Jamesie
08-10-2018, 10:25 AM
Never had a problem with a chicken curry pie.

Pete
08-10-2018, 10:28 AM
Excuse my ignorance but how does this arrangement work? Do Hibs outsource this or is it all done in-house?

Do Hibs charge an external company a flat fee? How are the profits divided up?

It’s handy to know these things. Maybe the solutions that would ease queues and cost less for the fans wouldn’t be satisfactory for some i.e. those who see this as primarily a revenue stream.

JXM73
08-10-2018, 10:32 AM
Lidle on easter road, 2xsweet chilli pizza things £1 and can of coke 80p... way better quality...pies are rank at ground and £2.50 for a cup of tea....

Weststandwanab
08-10-2018, 10:36 AM
If match day has always been about pie and Bovril,why did you buy pie & coffee ?

The plot thickens hmmm.

If only the bovirl did likewise

Brightside
08-10-2018, 10:43 AM
It so simple to get right. And a huge missed opportunity for Hibs.

1648
08-10-2018, 10:46 AM
Remember Alloa pie on s roll. Sure it was two quid.

Dashing Bob S
08-10-2018, 10:50 AM
It so simple to get right. And a huge missed opportunity for Hibs.

I really can’t understand how in this day and age, with so many imaginative contractors in catering, that they can contrive to make it so horrible. It really is perversely impressive. All I can think off is that a football match is perceived off a place - a little like a funeral - where you are expected to eat ***** food you normally wouldn’t go near.

Time for a real revolution here, I think.

Hulk1875
08-10-2018, 10:55 AM
just before half time we bought 2 pies and a coffee, got to our seat to find the Pies brick hard and I mean break hard. I could not even break the crust with my fingers. Took them back and the girl said sorry I'll check the ovens for 2 softer ones. She checked all 3 ovens and all the pies were the same brick hard as they have been in the ovens too long. She give us our moneys back. During the 2nd half a guy just along from us was trying to eat a pie and was saying its brick hard, told him to take it back which he did. I went down to see how he got on and the catering manageress was there. I explained what had happed and told her about the catering here and all she said was it was Hibs Management that tell them when to put the ovens on and off. I told her this was absolutely nonsense and walked away. I'm so surprised there is not a lot of fans here complaining today as when she checked the ovens for me at half time all the pies were brick hard. When are the Fans Reps going to do something about this? we keep complaining about this and they say they will look into it but nothing happens. must be the Worst Catering in Scotland.

Anyone else have any problems with the quality of food on Saturday at the game.

You could possibly be the person that I saw taking them back west lower. After seeing this I don't know why I did but I ended up buying a mince pie and had the same problem couldn't be bothered taking it back as I was with my 4 year old boy and would have to take him back down with me. It was like most of the mince had burnt to the bottom of the pie it was solid. I left 5 minuted before half time there was about 8 people in front of me and I still didn't get to my seat until players had came out.

pollution
08-10-2018, 11:26 AM
Excuse my ignorance but how does this arrangement work? Do Hibs outsource this or is it all done in-house?

Do Hibs charge an external company a flat fee? How are the profits divided up?

It’s handy to know these things. Maybe the solutions that would ease queues and cost less for the fans wouldn’t be satisfactory for some i.e. those who see this as primarily a revenue stream.


What I know is a few years old. Hibs rent out the kiosks in the ground to a company that specialises in catering for football games etc.

Hibs receive a monthly fee for the use of the kiosks and the caterer tries to sell pies etc at the highest possible price.

The hospitality catering in the West stand etc is or was in house ie by staff employed by Hibs directly.

Thus the in house caterers are closely monitored and the quality is very good. Visiting directors and guests are fed very well indeed.

If the kiosk sales plummeted then they would do something to correct that, the caterers that is. As long as their mush is bought why bother improving?

Hermit Crab
08-10-2018, 11:44 AM
The steak pies are of extremely poor quality, the meat used is below par rubbish and usually has big bits of gristle and fatty bits through it.

The scotch pies are also very poor, the are also full of hard bits but scotch pies are traditionally made with mutton so thats to be expected.

The "deluxe" curry pie, a little bit larger that the steak and mince pies but still poor quality. little cubes of rubbery chicken, again not a good product.

All of the above are overpriced by at least £1.50.

I'd love Hibs to justify the price of the soft drinks, the bags of sweets (£3.50), a slice of pizza which is very popular with the kids and they are something ridiculous like £4 a pop.

All the food and beverages that are popular with the kids at matches are the most expensive and Hibs know parents will be badgered into buying stuff for the kids at games.

One Day Soon
08-10-2018, 12:15 PM
Match day is about watching the pies.i call it pie day.

Mind you, I've been calling every day pie day for a while now.


This whole debate is ridiculous. It's as clear as day that the Board are not as ambitious in catering terms as the support. And if the catering staff would try harder it would be a completely different story.

We need to be competing at the top catering end of the league because there's no doubt we should be a bigger catering club than our history shows.

CropleyWasGod
08-10-2018, 12:17 PM
The steak pies are of extremely poor quality, the meat used is below par rubbish and usually has big bits of gristle and fatty bits through it.

The scotch pies are also very poor, the are also full of hard bits but scotch pies are traditionally made with mutton so thats to be expected.

The "deluxe" curry pie, a little bit larger that the steak and mince pies but still poor quality. little cubes of rubbery chicken, again not a good product.

All of the above are overpriced by at least £1.50.

I'd love Hibs to justify the price of the soft drinks, the bags of sweets (£3.50), a slice of pizza which is very popular with the kids and they are something ridiculous like £4 a pop.

All the food and beverages that are popular with the kids at matches are the most expensive and Hibs know parents will be badgered into buying stuff for the kids at games.

The club don't set the prices.

One Day Soon
08-10-2018, 12:18 PM
The steak pies are of extremely poor quality, the meat used is below par rubbish and usually has big bits of gristle and fatty bits through it.

The scotch pies are also very poor, the are also full of hard bits but scotch pies are traditionally made with mutton so thats to be expected.

The "deluxe" curry pie, a little bit larger that the steak and mince pies but still poor quality. little cubes of rubbery chicken, again not a good product.

All of the above are overpriced by at least £1.50.

I'd love Hibs to justify the price of the soft drinks, the bags of sweets (£3.50), a slice of pizza which is very popular with the kids and they are something ridiculous like £4 a pop.

All the food and beverages that are popular with the kids at matches are the most expensive and Hibs know parents will be badgered into buying stuff for the kids at games.

All true I'm sure but there's little excuse for buying overpriced sweets in the ground when they can be bought almost anywhere else in advance for a fraction of the cost.

mutley
08-10-2018, 12:32 PM
The reasons things won't change at ER is because of the volume that they sell week in - week out. I have to say that I find it very hit and miss, I have some really bad pies and some not so bad (but still very poor in comparison to other places I have had them).

However, the business model used by who-ever runs the catering, is Supply and Demand. The queues in the East Stand at half time are always massive and the stalls always seem to sell out everything they have. As long as this continues, the quality and prices won't change as from a business point of view, it doesn't need to.

We could all send in emails everyday complaining, but if what they have sells at the prices they set, why would they change it?

Last Minute
08-10-2018, 02:49 PM
Can we all just boycott the catering for 1 game. its the only way they are going to change anything and listen to the fans. Can we all just for 1 game tell everyone not buy anything to send a message to them that we want changes to the quality of food we are getting served and the prices they charge.:agree:

Since90+2
08-10-2018, 02:50 PM
Can we all just boycott the catering for 1 game. its the only way they are going to change anything and listen to the fans. Can we all just for 1 game tell everyone not buy anything to send a message to them that we want changes to the quality of food we are getting served and the prices they charge.:agree:

Never going to happen.

tonyrougier123
08-10-2018, 03:17 PM
We arny asking gourmet qaulity here,just a decent pie and a coke thats cold no room temp.im a mug tho because its goin to the club I pay it.

Scouse Hibee
08-10-2018, 03:36 PM
The catering company is CentrePlate, they are experienced at stadium catering. I wonder why it goes so wrong

0762
08-10-2018, 03:45 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/articles/42YBPqf1NhRpWH429brYKkz/will-celebrated-chefs-tony-singh-and-cyrus-todiwala-get-a-red-card-for-adding-spice-to-the-classic-half-time-football-pie

Get Tony Singh in to get it sorted.

SteveHFC
08-10-2018, 03:53 PM
Remember Alloa pie on s roll. Sure it was two quid.

Cheeseburger roll at Alloa was only £1.80 I think.

Bristolhibby
08-10-2018, 03:56 PM
Do Hibs have any type of Key Performance Indicators with the catering company?

Technically they could sell pick’n’mix at half time and as long as they turn a profit that would be OK.

I wonder if they incentivised the contractor to serve decent food if it would get better? Eg less than x complaints per match = 2% off the fee to Hibs, or something like that.

J

CropleyWasGod
08-10-2018, 03:57 PM
We arny asking gourmet qaulity here,just a decent pie and a coke thats cold no room temp.im a mug tho because its goin to the club I pay it.

It isn't, though.

Bet you feel a mug now. :greengrin

EH54
08-10-2018, 04:17 PM
It's usually the erchie that's falling out the steak pies, end up having to eat the pastry and the meat seperate and picking it like bairn, murder.

Scouse Hibee
08-10-2018, 04:51 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/articles/42YBPqf1NhRpWH429brYKkz/will-celebrated-chefs-tony-singh-and-cyrus-todiwala-get-a-red-card-for-adding-spice-to-the-classic-half-time-football-pie

Get Tony Singh in to get it sorted.

No chance would he sort it, his venture in the grass market apex was awful. He’ll put his name to it though for a few bob.

GreenCastle
08-10-2018, 04:58 PM
Can we all just boycott the catering for 1 game. its the only way they are going to change anything and listen to the fans. Can we all just for 1 game tell everyone not buy anything to send a message to them that we want changes to the quality of food we are getting served and the prices they charge.:agree:

It’s a shame nothing seems to be done.

Every home game there is a thread about the catering or lack of it.

The prices / food quality and service is mixed.

Like the tannoy / PA system - the club don’t seem to care enough to try fix it.

We shouldn’t need to take time out to email the fans rep - the club read this board and they should be investigating or getting feedback on match days.

Come on Hibs this has been going on too long !!

WellingtonHibby
08-10-2018, 09:55 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/articles/42YBPqf1NhRpWH429brYKkz/will-celebrated-chefs-tony-singh-and-cyrus-todiwala-get-a-red-card-for-adding-spice-to-the-classic-half-time-football-pie

Anyone tried these - they seem to be available at ER Kiosks

stoneyburn hibs
08-10-2018, 10:03 PM
Baynes pie on match days, Baynes pie and soup on cold match days.

hibsdaft
08-10-2018, 10:05 PM
don't understand why we couldn't bring in Dunfermline's suppliers, their bridies are always quality.

truehibernian
08-10-2018, 10:05 PM
Bains of Stenhouse Cross - has to happen, Hibees and would be a sell-out every game :aok: No brainer :agree: best pie in Edinburgh (ran close by Simpsons in Carricknowe)

Scotty Leither
08-10-2018, 10:32 PM
I've never understood why the club doesn't explore a commercial tie-up with Greggs. Punters would know what they're buying, and it's wholesome enough grub to sustain you on a cold winter's day.

I'm sure the brand name would be enough to deliver a bigger uptake among the fans and more revenue would be leveraged out of that.

Win-win for both parties, but like the Behind the Goals debate, it seems the fans input into how it could be improved is continually met with radio silence, and it's left to the fans' reps to act as conduits for the fans complaints to the Board, and similarly take the flak when nothing is done about it.

Ditto the awful PA system.

truehibernian
08-10-2018, 10:44 PM
I've never understood why the club doesn't explore a commercial tie-up with Greggs. Punters would know what they're buying, and it's wholesome enough grub to sustain you on a cold winter's day.

I'm sure the brand name would be enough to deliver a bigger uptake among the fans and more revenue would be leveraged out of that.

Win-win for both parties, but like the Behind the Goals debate, it seems the fans input into how it could be improved is continually met with radio silence, and it's left to the fans' reps to act as conduits for the fans complaints to the Board, and similarly take the flak when nothing is done about it.

Ditto the awful PA system.

As an aside there was a really interesting (and funny) video of Greggs taking part in an upmarket 'farmer's market' under a pseudonym down in middle England........wish I could find the link but as you can imagine, numerous people (upper end of the social spectrum) were waxing lyrical about the quality of the produce when they were given free 'tasters', and when they did the 'unveil' and showed them it was Greggs the reactions were priceless :greengrin

mutley
09-10-2018, 08:28 AM
Now that the little pizza stall that is out the back of the east Stand before kick off (which I have used a couple of times) makes me think this: Why don't we let individual vendors use this area at half time? and look at the amount of space that is doing nothing under the East Stand. If we had a few different vendors, this would give us more choice and should reduce the size of the queues all round as people will want different things. A bit like outside of Murrayfield where there are food stalls.

Last Minute
09-10-2018, 08:31 AM
I've never understood why the club doesn't explore a commercial tie-up with Greggs. Punters would know what they're buying, and it's wholesome enough grub to sustain you on a cold winter's day.

I'm sure the brand name would be enough to deliver a bigger uptake among the fans and more revenue would be leveraged out of that.

Win-win for both parties, but like the Behind the Goals debate, it seems the fans input into how it could be improved is continually met with radio silence, and it's left to the fans' reps to act as conduits for the fans complaints to the Board, and similarly take the flak when nothing is done about it.

Ditto the awful PA system.



:top marks

calumhibee1
09-10-2018, 08:38 AM
Now that the little pizza stall that is out the back of the east Stand before kick off (which I have used a couple of times) makes me think this: Why don't we let individual vendors use this area at half time? and look at the amount of space that is doing nothing under the East Stand. If we had a few different vendors, this would give us more choice and should reduce the size of the queues all round as people will want different things. A bit like outside of Murrayfield where there are food stalls.

I’ve been to the Orlando City stadium and it would seem they have individual vendors. Would be a really good idea IMO. Rent them out section by section to places like La Fav, Baines, whoever else fancies one. They only need to take on one section of catering if that’s all they want and would provide plenty variety/quality for the fans. If the quality wasn’t there then people just wouldn’t come to your section.

Carheenlea
09-10-2018, 08:41 AM
Now that the little pizza stall that is out the back of the east Stand before kick off (which I have used a couple of times) makes me think this: Why don't we let individual vendors use this area at half time? and look at the amount of space that is doing nothing under the East Stand. If we had a few different vendors, this would give us more choice and should reduce the size of the queues all round as people will want different things. A bit like outside of Murrayfield where there are food stalls.

Aberdeen have a catering van at away end which offers alternative snacks to the kiosk. Looked decent enough from what I saw.

mutley
09-10-2018, 08:49 AM
I’ve been to the Orlando City stadium and it would seem they have individual vendors. Would be a really good idea IMO. Rent them out section by section to places like La Fav, Baines, whoever else fancies one. They only need to take on one section of catering if that’s all they want and would provide plenty variety/quality for the fans. If the quality wasn’t there then people just wouldn’t come to your section.

Oh I forgot to add: this way Hibs get some revenue from the rental of the space and some local business get income from sales. Surely that is a win-win on not only the financial front but good PR, and some happy fans. Adding to the Match day experience would also encourage more people to attend/ come back too??


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Since90+2
09-10-2018, 09:17 AM
Oh I forgot to add: this way Hibs get some revenue from the rental of the space and some local business get income from sales. Surely that is a win-win on not only the financial front but good PR, and some happy fans. Adding to the Match day experience would also encourage more people to attend/ come back too??


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I cant see the vendors making much money from that setup. La favorita probably do ok as they are the only vendor but let's not forget that it's also overpriced (as is the norm with all Crolla restaurants).

If you had 5 or 6 different vendors ,and the inside kiosks, all competing for business they'd have to sell alot of food to turn a profit and I'm not sure the demand is there (especially when you consider youd have to walk past all the smokers to get your food and the weather might not be great). They'd have to pay Hibs a rental fee, hire staff and hire some form of specialist heating equipment to prepare and heat the food out in the open.

The vendor would also have to consider the brand impact if the quality wasn't at its usual standards due to the uniqueness of the setup. It's also likely someone like Baynes would need to charge a premium which again is a consideration for their marketing team.

The Green Goblin
09-10-2018, 09:18 AM
As an aside there was a really interesting (and funny) video of Greggs taking part in an upmarket 'farmer's market' under a pseudonym down in middle England........wish I could find the link but as you can imagine, numerous people (upper end of the social spectrum) were waxing lyrical about the quality of the produce when they were given free 'tasters', and when they did the 'unveil' and showed them it was Greggs the reactions were priceless :greengrin

“El Grecco”. It was brilliant.

Groathillgrump
09-10-2018, 09:26 AM
As an aside there was a really interesting (and funny) video of Greggs taking part in an upmarket 'farmer's market' under a pseudonym down in middle England........wish I could find the link but as you can imagine, numerous people (upper end of the social spectrum) were waxing lyrical about the quality of the produce when they were given free 'tasters', and when they did the 'unveil' and showed them it was Greggs the reactions were priceless :greengrin

There you go. :wink:

https://youtu.be/tibTtj5vY1Y

Heckys Wheel
09-10-2018, 10:33 AM
just before half time we bought 2 pies and a coffee, got to our seat to find the Pies brick hard and I mean break hard. I could not even break the crust with my fingers. Took them back and the girl said sorry I'll check the ovens for 2 softer ones. She checked all 3 ovens and all the pies were the same brick hard as they have been in the ovens too long. She give us our moneys back. During the 2nd half a guy just along from us was trying to eat a pie and was saying its brick hard, told him to take it back which he did. I went down to see how he got on and the catering manageress was there. I explained what had happed and told her about the catering here and all she said was it was Hibs Management that tell them when to put the ovens on and off. I told her this was absolutely nonsense and walked away. I'm so surprised there is not a lot of fans here complaining today as when she checked the ovens for me at half time all the pies were brick hard. When are the Fans Reps going to do something about this? we keep complaining about this and they say they will look into it but nothing happens. must be the Worst Catering in Scotland.

Anyone else have any problems with the quality of food on Saturday at the game.

Hold on. During the second half, you went down into the concourse to see how another guy got on complaining about the firmness of his pie crust?

You’re too deep in this mate. 90 minutes of Hibs a week and you’re away checking on other people complaining.

Last Minute
09-10-2018, 10:37 AM
Hold on. During the second half, you went down into the concourse to see how another guy got on complaining about the firmness of his pie crust?

You’re too deep in this mate. 90 minutes of Hibs a week and you’re away checking on other people complaining.


Yes, as wanted to speak to the catering manager, is that ok with you.

calumhibee1
09-10-2018, 10:40 AM
I cant see the vendors making much money from that setup. La favorita probably do ok as they are the only vendor but let's not forget that it's also overpriced (as is the norm with all Crolla restaurants).

If you had 5 or 6 different vendors ,and the inside kiosks, all competing for business they'd have to sell alot of food to turn a profit and I'm not sure the demand is there (especially when you consider youd have to walk past all the smokers to get your food and the weather might not be great). They'd have to pay Hibs a rental fee, hire staff and hire some form of specialist heating equipment to prepare and heat the food out in the open.

The vendor would also have to consider the brand impact if the quality wasn't at its usual standards due to the uniqueness of the setup. It's also likely someone like Baynes would need to charge a premium which again is a consideration for their marketing team.

I was more meaning to replace the pie stands inside the stadium. Would definitely be more difficult if we put them out the back of the East stand.

pollution
09-10-2018, 12:11 PM
Not to be a killjoy, why do you need to eat during the game?

Buy something before, or after. Either way, it is 3pm not lunch or dinner time...

Since90+2
09-10-2018, 12:20 PM
Not to be a killjoy, why do you need to eat during the game?

Buy something before, or after. Either way, it is 3pm not lunch or dinner time...

Some games are at lunchtime or dinner time but I get the point you're making.

I suppose nobody really needs to but if it's a service the club are providing they should try and make the best of it.

CropleyWasGod
09-10-2018, 12:36 PM
Not to be a killjoy, why do you need to eat during the game?

Buy something before, or after. Either way, it is 3pm not lunch or dinner time...Do you have kids? [emoji23]

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Hermit Crab
09-10-2018, 01:42 PM
Do you have kids? [emoji23]

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It will take a hard parent to say no to their kids at the football. :greengrin

Kojock
09-10-2018, 02:02 PM
Do you have kids? [emoji23]

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My 6 year old grandson is a season ticket holder and always brings a bag full of goodies with him. He wouldn't eat the crap on offer at ER.

Heckys Wheel
09-10-2018, 02:31 PM
Yes, as wanted to speak to the catering manager, is that ok with you.

You’re in too deep mate. You need to forget about the catering and get back to just enjoying your football again.

We’re playing the best football we’ve seen at ER for years. Winning games, scoring goals. Forget about the catering and enjoy how Stevie Mallan strikes a ball instead.

mutley
09-10-2018, 03:00 PM
ChazD

I completely hear what you are saying, (and it's fantastic that we have nothing else to moan about other than crap pies)

But in an ideal world this would be my match day experience (I know everyone differs, but this is mine)

Arrive nice and early to meet up with friends and enjoy a nice drink in a supporters bar, owned by the club where the profits go to the club. Then take my seat and watch Hibs score a goal or two up to half time. Have a little comfort break and buy a snack and a drink (cold on a hot day, hot drink on a cold day) from in-house caterers run by the club where the profits go to the club, or from a vendor that pays something to the club for the privilege.

Return for the second half to watch Hibs play more classy, silky football and win the match comfortably, keeping a clean sheet, hear the final whistle, give the boys a good ol' cheer, then return to the bar to regale with friends over how superb the game was over a few more drinks, which results in more cash going to the club. Then go home nice and happy.

Fuzzywuzzy
09-10-2018, 03:07 PM
£2.50 For a Capri Sun is shocking when you can buy a multi pack of the stuff for the same price. The pizzas look shan, hotdogs look anemic and pies are dug ****.

Can't really go wrong with a bovril. Or can they.......

MWHIBBIES
09-10-2018, 03:18 PM
You’re in too deep mate. You need to forget about the catering and get back to just enjoying your football again.

We’re playing the best football we’ve seen at ER for years. Winning games, scoring goals. Forget about the catering and enjoy how Stevie Mallan strikes a ball instead.This 100%.

staunchhibby
09-10-2018, 03:34 PM
Buying bovril cups are quite cheap.They certainly do not cost £2-50 each as charged

basehibby
09-10-2018, 03:49 PM
just before half time we bought 2 pies and a coffee, got to our seat to find the Pies brick hard and I mean break hard. I could not even break the crust with my fingers. Took them back and the girl said sorry I'll check the ovens for 2 softer ones. She checked all 3 ovens and all the pies were the same brick hard as they have been in the ovens too long. She give us our moneys back. During the 2nd half a guy just along from us was trying to eat a pie and was saying its brick hard, told him to take it back which he did. I went down to see how he got on and the catering manageress was there. I explained what had happed and told her about the catering here and all she said was it was Hibs Management that tell them when to put the ovens on and off. I told her this was absolutely nonsense and walked away. I'm so surprised there is not a lot of fans here complaining today as when she checked the ovens for me at half time all the pies were brick hard. When are the Fans Reps going to do something about this? we keep complaining about this and they say they will look into it but nothing happens. must be the Worst Catering in Scotland.

Anyone else have any problems with the quality of food on Saturday at the game.

I got the pies in on Saturday and can confirm that they were all a bit hard and overdone - although mine was at least edible. I think perhaps they are caught between the "rock" of the pies being overdone and too hard, and the "hard place" of them being too soft and falling to bits. What's the solution? Nae idea as a pie making expert I am not (pie eating? that's another matter entirely lols).

My main gripe on Saturday though was not the pies but the sauce - ie ALL the sauce in the East Stand had run out long before the end of half time with no-one bothering their erse to replenish them.

I went over to the counter and complained about this as it happens EVERY week without fail and gets right on my thrupennies as it's purely down to lack of foresight and/or care or just plain laziness and is entirely preventable.

Hibs90
09-10-2018, 04:00 PM
Is it just me that really like the pizza slices? :fire:

Onion
09-10-2018, 04:00 PM
There's no excuse for the crap football fans are offered as "catering". Most of the stuff is a health hazard that would be classed as abuse if offered to those in 3rd world countries.

basehibby
09-10-2018, 04:03 PM
The only thing I'll buy is a bovril in the colder months, the rest is over priced tasteless guff, coffee tastes like dishwater and the food is disgusting for the prices.

I remember one time having a matchday hangover and hitting upon the (I thought) bright idea of a cup of tea before KO.

BAD IDEA - it was absolutely bowfin! The horrible dried milk in it tasted like it had been lying about too long and each taste of this so called tea made me feel just a little bit more ill. So I ended up ditching it - not much cope considering the extortionate prices charged for such utter crap.

WhileTheChief..
09-10-2018, 04:18 PM
You’re in too deep mate. You need to forget about the catering and get back to just enjoying your football again.

We’re playing the best football we’ve seen at ER for years. Winning games, scoring goals. Forget about the catering and enjoy how Stevie Mallan strikes a ball instead.

Well said.

PS The pies in the West Upper are tremendous. Piping hot and decent quality. I always get one before the game starts.

beensaidbefore
09-10-2018, 06:06 PM
There you go. :wink:

https://youtu.be/tibTtj5vY1Y

Brilliant

jacomo
09-10-2018, 09:53 PM
Given how often we are reminded about the importance of income generation to the club, you’d think improving the catering would be a fairly easy win.

Better offer = higher earnings.

CropleyWasGod
09-10-2018, 09:57 PM
Given how often we are reminded about the importance of income generation to the club, you’d think improving the catering would be a fairly easy win.

Better offer = higher earnings.We don't get the income from the catering. As I understand it, we get a rent from the catering company.

As it stands, it makes no financial difference to the club how much the food is, or how crap it is.

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SMAXXA
09-10-2018, 10:40 PM
Match day is about watching the team, not pies.

To be fair we’ve watched a fair bit of mince the last few years aside 😜

jacomo
09-10-2018, 11:01 PM
We don't get the income from the catering. As I understand it, we get a rent from the catering company.

As it stands, it makes no financial difference to the club how much the food is, or how crap it is.

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Well there’s your problem then.

If I were running the club I’d be wanting out of that contract pronto.

Forza Fred
10-10-2018, 12:00 AM
We don't get the income from the catering. As I understand it, we get a rent from the catering company.

As it stands, it makes no financial difference to the club how much the food is, or how crap it is.

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Think the current management of the club though are aware of ‘the match day experience’ that reasonable food on offer contributes to, and would much rather read positive appraisals than customer complaints.

Obviously it’s not the highest of priorities in regard to running a football club, but I’d be surprised if it wasn’t discussed at boardroom meetings.

Even a topic that could be raised at the AGM........it’s about providing a quality match day experience...obviously results are the most important by far, but incidentals like catering, seating, ticketing etc, etc are all part of the tapestry of a football club

Steve-O
10-10-2018, 02:06 AM
Think the current management of the club though are aware of ‘the match day experience’ that reasonable food on offer contributes to, and would much rather read positive appraisals than customer complaints.

Obviously it’s not the highest of priorities in regard to running a football club, but I’d be surprised if it wasn’t discussed at boardroom meetings.

Even a topic that could be raised at the AGM........it’s about providing a quality match day experience...obviously results are the most important by far, but incidentals like catering, seating, ticketing etc, etc are all part of the tapestry of a football club

Though I was going to say that I dunno why people bother eating this overpriced garbage at the football, I think you are right.

Regardless of whether it's a contract with outside catering and Hibs make no money etc, it's about perception really - i.e. the perception currently being that the food 'Hibs' serve up is rubbish. Nobody really cares that it's some contractor or any such details - it's served up at Hibs games inside Hibs' stadium, and the buck does stop with the club.

In Wellington it's a slightly different scenario where various sports/clubs play at the stadium, but there were similar complaints about the quality of food / beverages on offer for a long time. They then changed tack from the standard catering / rubbish beer (yes, beer at the football!) and got local independent caterers on board. You can still get the same old rubbish you always could, but there are loads of different choices from a variety of stalls throughout the concourse - i.e. gourmet pizza, gourmet hot dogs, gourmet anything(!) as well as local craft beer, proper barista coffee etc etc. The complaints have stopped and everyone has a choice - also good marketing and exposure for the local companies involved, so win-win.

Hard to see why similar arrangements couldn't be made at Easter Road really?

Yorkshire HFC
10-10-2018, 05:30 AM
I very much doubt whether it's discussed at Board Meetings. They've given a contract to whoever offered the most cash, and they won't bother thinking about it again until the contract is up for renewal.

Fans are taken for granted and in all my time watching football, I've never seen many instances where the owners bother about us.

Hermit Crab
10-10-2018, 05:33 AM
I very much doubt whether it's discussed at Board Meetings. They've given a contract to whoever offered the most cash, and they won't bother thinking about it again until the contract is up for renewal.

Fans are taken for granted and in all my time watching football, I've never seen many instances where the owners bother about us.


If I remember correctly the catering was supposed to be brought in house 2 seasons ago. That was LD that said that unless I’m mistaken.

Beefster
10-10-2018, 05:45 AM
I love these threads. They always bring out at least one poster who gets uppity because some have the temerity to eat outside ‘proper’ meal times.

‘Sad!’ as one cretinous leader of the Free World may tweet.

Hermit Crab
10-10-2018, 05:52 AM
I love these threads. They always bring out at least one poster who gets uppity because some have the temerity to eat outside ‘proper’ meal times.

‘Sad!’ as one cretinous leader of the Free World may tweet.


I work permanent night shift. My meal times are different to most people’s. :greengrin

CropleyWasGod
10-10-2018, 06:14 AM
Well there’s your problem then.

If I were running the club I’d be wanting out of that contract pronto.The club will be happy with that arrangement. They have guaranteed income, without the hassle of employing staff.

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Peevemor
10-10-2018, 06:30 AM
The club will be happy with that arrangement. They have guaranteed income, without the hassle of employing staff.

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... or dealing with orders, stock, etc.

Phil MaGlass
10-10-2018, 07:15 AM
That some folk on here spend over 5 quid for a bad pie and bovril is amazing,really, 5 quid, when yi kin buy it 200 metres fae the stadium before the game for a couple of quid, mair money than sense. How many great smelling, small queued local bakeries or chippies do you pass on the way. Each tae thur ain ah suppose.

Last Minute
10-10-2018, 07:41 AM
I very much doubt whether it's discussed at Board Meetings. They've given a contract to whoever offered the most cash, and they won't bother thinking about it again until the contract is up for renewal.

Fans are taken for granted and in all my time watching football, I've never seen many instances where the owners bother about us.


:top marks

Last Minute
10-10-2018, 07:43 AM
If I remember correctly the catering was supposed to be brought in house 2 seasons ago. That was LD that said that unless I’m mistaken.


:agree:

Phil MaGlass
10-10-2018, 07:54 AM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/articles/42YBPqf1NhRpWH429brYKkz/will-celebrated-chefs-tony-singh-and-cyrus-todiwala-get-a-red-card-for-adding-spice-to-the-classic-half-time-football-pie

Just seen this

WhileTheChief..
10-10-2018, 08:06 AM
That some folk on here spend over 5 quid for a bad pie and bovril is amazing,really, 5 quid, when yi kin buy it 200 metres fae the stadium before the game for a couple of quid, mair money than sense. How many great smelling, small queued local bakeries or chippies do you pass on the way. Each tae thur ain ah suppose.

Is it easier typing in that style with deliberate spelling mistakes than just typing normally?!

MWHIBBIES
10-10-2018, 08:55 AM
Is it easier typing in that style with deliberate spelling mistakes than just typing normally?!

I don't think there is anything cringier than typing in a "Scottish" accent. Do people write like that as well?

WhileTheChief..
10-10-2018, 09:28 AM
It’s weird eh.

I’d have thought it takes more effort trying to work out how to spell that way.

Looks awful when written down and a bit jakey!

RyeSloan
10-10-2018, 09:48 AM
That some folk on here spend over 5 quid for a bad pie and bovril is amazing,really, 5 quid, when yi kin buy it 200 metres fae the stadium before the game for a couple of quid, mair money than sense. How many great smelling, small queued local bakeries or chippies do you pass on the way. Each tae thur ain ah suppose.

Well from where I park and approach from Lochend side the answer is zero.

Is it beyond your comprehension that some people like to get to the stadium and take their seat with some refreshments or a snack that they have not either had the time or opportunity to procure prior to the match?

There is also the fact that most types of drinks containers are banned from being taken into the ground.

jacomo
10-10-2018, 09:50 AM
It’s weird eh.

I’d have thought it takes more effort trying to work out how to spell that way.

Looks awful when written down and a bit jakey!


Jakey is Scots slang. How very dare you.

lucky
10-10-2018, 10:21 AM
Simple solution is not to buy the crap they offer. If enough fans boycott the catering stands then the supplier and club will act as it will effect their profit

jacomo
10-10-2018, 10:34 AM
The club will be happy with that arrangement. They have guaranteed income, without the hassle of employing staff.

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I work at a major entertainment venue.

Our food offer is provided by other companies but the offer is ‘curated’ by us depending on the event. The contracts include a minimum rental income plus a profit share agreement, and contractors who don’t measure up don’t get invited back.

I’m sure there are many street food style operations who could do a lot better with the kiosks at ER... and make themselves and the club more money.

WhileTheChief..
10-10-2018, 10:41 AM
Jakey is Scots slang. How very dare you.

All this talk of pies and bovril, where’s the avocado on toast or almond milk?

Fuzzywuzzy
10-10-2018, 11:13 AM
Jakey language worked out well for Irvine Welsh.

When trainspotting first came out took me a while to get in to the language

silverhibee
10-10-2018, 12:51 PM
It’s weird eh.

I’d have thought it takes more effort trying to work out how to spell that way.

Looks awful when written down and a bit jakey!

awrite mann

IWasThere2016
10-10-2018, 01:07 PM
Catering is so poor at ER - I'd like to think the club were looking at it.

I think Hibs should consider approaching Greggs to take over..

hughio
10-10-2018, 01:13 PM
I want a big pot of hot home made lentil soup on one side and a big pot of good old fashioned stovies on the other.
£2.50 each.
Nothing else for sale.

Easy to manage.
You would sell thousands.
Would take seconds to effect every transaction.
Club to share profits.

Leanne I'm waitIng....

CropleyWasGod
10-10-2018, 01:18 PM
I work at a major entertainment venue.

Our food offer is provided by other companies but the offer is ‘curated’ by us depending on the event. The contracts include a minimum rental income plus a profit share agreement, and contractors who don’t measure up don’t get invited back.

I’m sure there are many street food style operations who could do a lot better with the kiosks at ER... and make themselves and the club more money.

That sounds like a sensible arrangement, but I get the feeling that the Club just don't want the involvement.

CropleyWasGod
10-10-2018, 01:19 PM
Simple solution is not to buy the crap they offer. If enough fans boycott the catering stands then the supplier and club will act as it will effect their profit

It won't. :greengrin

RyeSloan
10-10-2018, 01:25 PM
Simple solution is not to buy the crap they offer. If enough fans boycott the catering stands then the supplier and club will act as it will effect their profit

An even simpler solution is for the club to listen to the complaints and do something about it.

LD has often spoken of the ‘match day experience’ being important to her and the club...it seems on this subject though those words ring rather hollow.

So rather than boycotts with people and kids doing without in an attempt to make a point the club should simply sit up and listen and take some affirmative action.

Hermit Crab
10-10-2018, 02:11 PM
Catering is so poor at ER - I'd like to think the club were looking at it.

I think Hibs should consider approaching Greggs to take over..


Replacing a poor product with a poor product.

Yorkshire HFC
10-10-2018, 02:27 PM
LD has often spoken of the ‘match day experience’ being important to her and the club...it seems on this subject though those words ring rather hollow.


The lack of action would indicate that it’s not important to her.
But then she’s not a fan..........

Phil MaGlass
10-10-2018, 03:01 PM
Is it easier typing in that style with deliberate spelling mistakes than just typing normally?!

Ah think its cos ah use quite a bit of slang oan ma mobile, seems tae huv kerried across tae Hibsnet ya bas. Ah find it a bit strange tae.

Bostonhibby
10-10-2018, 03:07 PM
I want a big pot of hot home made lentil soup on one side and a big pot of good old fashioned stovies on the other.
£2.50 each.
Nothing else for sale.

Easy to manage.
You would sell thousands.
Would take seconds to effect every transaction.
Club to share profits.

Leanne I'm waitIng....

A good idea but we don't even know if Leanne can make stovies or has a decent soup recipe so it could be a long wait[emoji6]

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WhileTheChief..
10-10-2018, 03:31 PM
Ah think its cos ah use quite a bit of slang oan ma mobile, seems tae huv kerried across tae Hibsnet ya bas. Ah find it a bit strange tae.

Brilliant!!

Impressive that it spells Scots slang so well, I want a jakey phone!

Last Minute
10-10-2018, 03:35 PM
LD has often spoken of the ‘match day experience’ being important to her and the club...it seems on this subject though those words ring rather hollow.


The lack of action would indicate that it’s not important to her.
But then she’s not a fan..........

:top marks

Last Minute
10-10-2018, 03:36 PM
Simple solution is not to buy the crap they offer. If enough fans boycott the catering stands then the supplier and club will act as it will effect their profit


:agree::top marks

SChibs
10-10-2018, 03:43 PM
No complaints from any west standers about the prawn sandwiches. Its like a whole other world over there!

lucky
10-10-2018, 03:45 PM
It won't. :greengrin

It will effect the caterers profit and the amount Hibs get for the contract so yes it will 😂

CropleyWasGod
10-10-2018, 04:03 PM
It will effect the caterers profit and the amount Hibs get for the contract so yes it will [emoji23]Hibs get a fixed rent. The caterer being boycotted or otherwise losing sales will not affect that.

Longer-term, there will always be another caterer willing to take on such an arrangement.

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lucky
10-10-2018, 04:04 PM
Hibs get a fixed rent. The caterer being boycotted or otherwise losing sales will not affect that.

Longer-term, there will always be another caterer willing to take on such an arrangement.

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But the price of contract will be based on previous sales. But surely the whole point is to get a new provider to improve quality

WhileTheChief..
10-10-2018, 04:19 PM
No complaints from any west standers about the prawn sandwiches. Its like a whole other world over there!

The pies in the West upper are sound that’s why no one is complaining.

In fact, I’d guess the pies throughout the stadium are generally fine, it’s only a dozen or so folk on here complaining when they probably sell thousands each game.

The Green Goblin
10-10-2018, 04:43 PM
I want a big pot of hot home made lentil soup on one side and a big pot of good old fashioned stovies on the other.
£2.50 each.
Nothing else for sale.

Easy to manage.
You would sell thousands.
Would take seconds to effect every transaction.
Club to share profits.

Leanne I'm waitIng....

Or a wee* tub of macaroni cheese! Magic on a cold match day in the winter...

*nae offence intended

Fuzzywuzzy
11-10-2018, 07:48 AM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/articles/42YBPqf1NhRpWH429brYKkz/will-celebrated-chefs-tony-singh-and-cyrus-todiwala-get-a-red-card-for-adding-spice-to-the-classic-half-time-football-pie

If only they were all like this

Should have said this was at Easter road

Scotty Leither
11-10-2018, 08:51 AM
I work at a major entertainment venue.

Our food offer is provided by other companies but the offer is ‘curated’ by us depending on the event. The contracts include a minimum rental income plus a profit share agreement, and contractors who don’t measure up don’t get invited back.

I’m sure there are many street food style operations who could do a lot better with the kiosks at ER... and make themselves and the club more money.

Sounds like you're the kind of person the club should be speaking with.

The catering and Behind the Goals experience is definitely not "Hibs class", and the third parties that it's contracted out to should be getting told to up their game, and pronto.

hughio
11-10-2018, 08:58 AM
Sounds like you're the kind of person the club should be speaking with.

The catering and Behind the Goals experience is definitely not "Hibs class", and the third parties that it's contracted out to should be getting told to up their game, and pronto.

:agree:

Forza Fred
11-10-2018, 09:18 AM
An even simpler solution is for the club to listen to the complaints and do something about it.

LD has often spoken of the ‘match day experience’ being important to her and the club...it seems on this subject though those words ring rather hollow.

So rather than boycotts with people and kids doing without in an attempt to make a point the club should simply sit up and listen and take some affirmative action.

This.

In all fairness, The Hibs Board have got much , much more right than they have wrong over the past few years, but like ALL workplaces, there will undoubtedly be room for improvement in some areas.

Rather than grab a pitchfork, a reasoned approach may put it back on the club’s agenda.

Complaints about catering can be very much in the eye of the beholder, with a common defence by the caterers to be advised of ‘specifics’ which tend not to be forthcoming.

Maybe the board can engage an independent company to carry out a ‘secretshopper’ Type exercise and provide feedback to them.

Famous Fiver
11-10-2018, 10:49 AM
I find the title of the thread somewhat confusing.

I would have entitled it 'Lack of catering', or' Unsatisfactory catering'.

To describe what is on offer at Easter Road with catering, as I understand it, is extremely misleading.

Ross4356
11-10-2018, 12:04 PM
Is it easier typing in that style with deliberate spelling mistakes than just typing normally?!


I don't think there is anything cringier than typing in a "Scottish" accent. Do people write like that as well?


Jakey is Scots slang. How very dare you.

It's not Scots slang or deliberate spelling mistakes, Phil, is writing in the Scots language. Some favourite wirds o mine in the laid are dreich, blether, daunder, wifie, huckled, beastie, playpiece and greetin.

You can learn more here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scots_language and here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBb_jKKCcC8 if you wish.

WhileTheChief..
11-10-2018, 12:13 PM
Nah, it was auto correct on his phone.

Even still, no one actually writes in “Scots Language”, whatever that is.

It looks crap when written down and as someone else said it’s cringey.

It’s also damn hard to read compared to using normal English.

Ross4356
11-10-2018, 12:21 PM
Nah, it was auto correct on his phone.

Even still, no one actually writes in “Scots Language”, whatever that is.

It looks crap when written down and as someone else said it’s cringey.

It’s also damn hard to read compared to using normal English.

Fair enough, better not get you started on Gaelic road signs I bet.

mixumatosis
11-10-2018, 12:41 PM
It's not Scots slang or deliberate spelling mistakes, Phil, is writing in the Scots language. Some favourite wirds o mine in the laid are dreich, blether, daunder, wifie, huckled, beastie, playpiece and greetin.

You can learn more here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scots_language and here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBb_jKKCcC8 if you wish.

You can learn more here, if you wish:

http://www.hibs.net/misc.php?do=vsarules

"All posts must be written in English"

I fail to see why text speak should be banned but equally unintelligible "Scots" is not only tolerated but folk are criticised for taking issue with it.

Oscar T Grouch
11-10-2018, 12:46 PM
Nah, it was auto correct on his phone.

Even still, no one actually writes in “Scots Language”, whatever that is.

It looks crap when written down and as someone else said it’s cringey.

It’s also damn hard to read compared to using normal English.

Its really no hard to read, it is, like Gaelic, phonetic. Your ignorance of the writers of Scots doesn't mean people don't write in Scots, you just don't know about them or more likely choose to ignore them. One of the greatest poets to have lived wrote exclusively in Scots. There have been Booker prize nominees and winners who have in part written in Scots and Scots dialects. To say no one actually writes in Scots couldn't be further from the truth.

I don't understand how it looks crap when written down, would it be safe to assume you think all non English languages look crap {maybe because you find them hard to read}?

Greenbeard
11-10-2018, 12:49 PM
Fair enough, better not get you started on Gaelic road signs I bet.
Am stertin a campaign furry road signs tae be wrote in dialect.
E.G. Gonnae stoap an hae a deek afore ye go.
Ye cannae drive doon issway.
Watch oot furry hoarses.
Slow doonyap rick.

Bostonhibby
11-10-2018, 01:32 PM
Am stertin a campaign furry road signs tae be wrote in dialect.
E.G. Gonnae stoap an hae a deek afore ye go.
Ye cannae drive doon issway.
Watch oot furry hoarses.
Slow doonyap rick.Gonnae no dae that.

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WhileTheChief..
11-10-2018, 02:09 PM
Its really no hard to read, it is, like Gaelic, phonetic. Your ignorance of the writers of Scots doesn't mean people don't write in Scots, you just don't know about them or more likely choose to ignore them. One of the greatest poets to have lived wrote exclusively in Scots. There have been Booker prize nominees and winners who have in part written in Scots and Scots dialects. To say no one actually writes in Scots couldn't be further from the truth.

I don't understand how it looks crap when written down, would it be safe to assume you think all non English languages look crap {maybe because you find them hard to read}?

Wow. That’s some amount of assumptions you’ve made about me personally from a light hearted post about something written on here!

Clearly I wasn’t talking about Burns, Wallace, Welsh or whoever.

Don’t take everything so, erm, literally.

Chill out.

SirDavidsNapper
11-10-2018, 02:17 PM
Ah think its cos ah use quite a bit of slang oan ma mobile, seems tae huv kerried across tae Hibsnet ya bas. Ah find it a bit strange tae.

😂😂

WhileTheChief..
11-10-2018, 02:47 PM
Fair enough, better not get you started on Gaelic road signs I bet.

Utterly pointless things that “no one” can read. ( ok, a few folk can and maybe do read them, but the fact that they also speak English kinda makes them pointless)

Same as train station signs and if it wasn’t for the football, BBC Alba too.

Anyways, I’m talking about jakey writing on here, not Gaelic or Too a Flipping Mouse!!

Aim Here
11-10-2018, 03:02 PM
... jakey writing ...

So this is really just a social class thing, then?

You're okay with Burns, or even writers like Irvine Welsh or James Kelman being promoted into the respectable literate classes while still writing in something akin to the dialect they originated from. Heaven forbid if an actual, real-life schemie or Hibs fan should attempt to transcribe their own speaking patterns, though. If they want to write, they should learn to write like you and me, is that it? Their dialect is there to be written about by others, not by themselves.

Ross4356
11-10-2018, 03:09 PM
Utterly pointless things that “no one” can read. ( ok, a few folk can and maybe do read them, but the fact that they also speak English kinda makes them pointless)

Same as train station signs and if it wasn’t for the football, BBC Alba too.

Anyways, I’m talking about jakey writing on here, not Gaelic or Too a Flipping Mouse!!

The roll out of the bi-lingual road signs, started by Labour, will continue and the Scots Language including 'jakey writing' is growing so you just try and chill out.

WhileTheChief..
11-10-2018, 03:49 PM
So this is really just a social class thing, then?

You're okay with Burns, or even writers like Irvine Welsh or James Kelman being promoted into the respectable literate classes while still writing in something akin to the dialect they originated from. Heaven forbid if an actual, real-life schemie or Hibs fan should attempt to transcribe their own speaking patterns, though. If they want to write, they should learn to write like you and me, is that it? Their dialect is there to be written about by others, not by themselves.

You’re taking this way too seriously!!

tamig
11-10-2018, 04:15 PM
Fair enough, better not get you started on Gaelic road signs I bet.

I’ll chip in. Waste of time and money. Why? And putting the gaelic version of police on police cars seems to be the latest. Wtf is that about?

Famous Fiver
11-10-2018, 04:17 PM
Aye, but whae ate all the pies?

Ross4356
11-10-2018, 05:28 PM
I’ll chip in. Waste of time and money. Why? And putting the gaelic version of police on police cars seems to be the latest. Wtf is that about?

AFAIK the signs are replaced as they would normally i.e. when they're naturally due for replacement. Why? The mindboggles why there would be road signs, in Gaelic, in the Highlands of Scotland when the indigenous language is Gaelic.

proud_and_green
11-10-2018, 05:43 PM
Replacing a poor product with a poor product.

took the words right out of my keyboard!

proud_and_green
11-10-2018, 05:50 PM
The pies in the West upper are sound that’s why no one is complaining.

In fact, I’d guess the pies throughout the stadium are generally fine, it’s only a dozen or so folk on here complaining when they probably sell thousands each game.

I think it's more, the pie filling isn't bad - could be better - but the case is awful, it is solid and uncooked at the same time - incredible. It is not difficult to get decent cases. But they have gone for the cheapest to maximise the margin.

A boycott would hit the caterers profit and would leave them with one option, improve the quality to improve the sales.

Hibs do need to look at this, everything to do with what happens in the stadium affects the reputation of the club.

Scouse Hibee
11-10-2018, 07:25 PM
Several pies were tried and tested by the caterers also involving the club for their opinion. The current pies came top in the test results.

Hermit Crab
11-10-2018, 08:04 PM
Several pies were tried and tested by the caterers also involving the club for their opinion. The current pies came top in the test results.


Was it a bunch of Labradors that tasted them?

mixumatosis
11-10-2018, 08:33 PM
Was it a bunch of Labradors that tasted them?

I think there may have been some labradors involved, but not in the tasting...

Scouse Hibee
11-10-2018, 10:02 PM
Was it a bunch of Labradors that tasted them?

They sell plenty of them so must be half decent

Steve-O
12-10-2018, 01:09 AM
Several pies were tried and tested by the caterers also involving the club for their opinion. The current pies came top in the test results.

Sounds like they are being cooked to within an inch of their lives, which might be more of the problem. I presume the taste testers didn't get the burnt version of said pies.

Steve-O
12-10-2018, 01:12 AM
Nah, it was auto correct on his phone.

Even still, no one actually writes in “Scots Language”, whatever that is.

It looks crap when written down and as someone else said it’s cringey.

It’s also damn hard to read compared to using normal English.

Embrace your culture, man.

Forza Fred
12-10-2018, 03:02 AM
Sounds like they are being cooked to within an inch of their lives, which might be more of the problem. I presume the taste testers didn't get the burnt version of said pies.

Exactly!

The ‘secret shoppers’ need to carry out unannounced site inspections......not telegraph they are coming and then, unsurprisingly, find everything is tickety boo!

Last Minute
12-10-2018, 10:29 AM
Sounds like they are being cooked to within an inch of their lives, which might be more of the problem. I presume the taste testers didn't get the burnt version of said pies.

Spot on, tell them to go at Half time and try one.it will be rock hard and burnt to a crisp.

MWHIBBIES
12-10-2018, 10:33 AM
I never actually buy food at half time. Do they actually just leave the pies in the oven for the entire first half meaning they are brick hard or burnt?

I'm no michelin star chef but that seems extremely stupid to me.

Danderhall Hibs
12-10-2018, 10:39 AM
They sell plenty of them so must be half decent

It appears folk are just desperate to eat and or pry with cash so will buy any old crap.

staunchhibby
12-10-2018, 11:12 AM
Take my own pies from John Lawson Uphall.

The Green Goblin
12-10-2018, 11:42 AM
Its really no hard to read, it is, like Gaelic, phonetic. Your ignorance of the writers of Scots doesn't mean people don't write in Scots, you just don't know about them or more likely choose to ignore them. One of the greatest poets to have lived wrote exclusively in Scots. There have been Booker prize nominees and winners who have in part written in Scots and Scots dialects. To say no one actually writes in Scots couldn't be further from the truth.

I don't understand how it looks crap when written down, would it be safe to assume you think all non English languages look crap {maybe because you find them hard to read}?

I like it when folk write like that, if it’s what they do all the time and really don’t see why there’s any need to take issue with it. Each to their own on here, variety is good and if that’s how soneone wants to make their point, then why shouldn’t they?

WTC: sorry bud, but that phrase “jakey writing” isn’t a good look at all (imo).

JXM73
13-10-2018, 01:59 PM
Proper butchers steak pie at east fife £1.80 n a cup of tea £1.30...

Salisbury Hibby
14-10-2018, 09:33 AM
Jakey language worked out well for Irvine Welsh.

When trainspotting first came out took me a while to get in to the languageI think it's mostly used in dialogue to show how the characters speak. There's no excuse to use it for anything else.

It is cringey in the extreme.

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pollution
14-10-2018, 11:34 AM
Its really no hard to read, it is, like Gaelic, phonetic. Your ignorance of the writers of Scots doesn't mean people don't write in Scots, you just don't know about them or more likely choose to ignore them. One of the greatest poets to have lived wrote exclusively in Scots. There have been Booker prize nominees and winners who have in part written in Scots and Scots dialects. To say no one actually writes in Scots couldn't be further from the truth.

I don't understand how it looks crap when written down, would it be safe to assume you think all non English languages look crap {maybe because you find them hard to read}?


James Kelman did win the Booker prize for his book written in such parlance in 1994.

I remember some London friends thinking it was so daring and raw ( their words ) that I was truly bemused.

Write however one wishes. There is always a receptive audience somewhere, for however short a time.

NGP
14-10-2018, 12:14 PM
Take my own pies from John Lawson Uphall.

Top pies, the young lad who makes most of the pies is a Hibby.

staunchhibby
14-10-2018, 12:19 PM
They have a good selection.

Fuzzywuzzy
14-10-2018, 01:38 PM
Take my own pies from John Lawson Uphall.

Can't beat a Lawsons pie!!.....or the steak baguette