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PatHead
03-10-2018, 04:59 PM
Wonder how that will affect SJM?

Callum_62
03-10-2018, 05:00 PM
Wonder how that will affect SJM?

Probaly wont- hes been there player of the season so far from what I read

Now - who will replace Bruce? [emoji15]


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York Hibees
03-10-2018, 05:01 PM
Wages aside, from a footballing sense neither McGinn or Mcgeough have went onto better since leaving Hibs.

we are hibs
03-10-2018, 05:01 PM
Calderwood sacked too. Nae luck ya fud :bye:

PatHead
03-10-2018, 05:03 PM
Hope Brenda Rodgers doesnít get it. They might want Neil Lennon and I think he would find it hard to resist.

BILLYHIBS
03-10-2018, 05:04 PM
:bye::bye:

Once a Manager gets the BILLYHIBS wave it’s curtains that’s Czaba and Steve Bruce.

Any requests ?


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MWHIBBIES
03-10-2018, 05:05 PM
Wages aside, from a footballing sense neither McGinn or Mcgeough have went onto better since leaving Hibs.

Villa is a big step up from Hibs, let's be honest here. A bad start to their season doesn't change that.

Hibby70
03-10-2018, 05:06 PM
Hope Brenda Rodgers doesnít get it. They might want Neil Lennon and I think he would find it hard to resist.

I'm not so sure Lennon would want the Celtic job and the extra stress it would bring (again). Or if he took it I don't think it would be an easy decision for him.

PatHead
03-10-2018, 05:07 PM
I'm not so sure Lennon would want the Celtic job and the extra stress it would bring (again). Or if he took it I don't think it would be an easy decision for him.

With you that I donít think he would find it easy but he might want to be the 10 in a row.

we are hibs
03-10-2018, 05:08 PM
Villa is a big step up from Hibs, let's be honest here. A bad start to their season doesn't change that.

It is. And the team doesn't necessarily have to do well for him to win a better move to a better team or onto the premier league. People down south will be watching him after his start. Be interesting to see how much is quoted for him if he is linked with a move especially if we have a sell on

007
03-10-2018, 05:25 PM
:bye::bye:

Once a Manager gets the BILLYHIBS wave it’s curtains that’s Czaba and Steve Bruce.

Any requests ?


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Okay, let's test your powers. Bet they don't work on Levein. :greengrin

Iain G
03-10-2018, 05:41 PM
I'm not so sure Lennon would want the Celtic job and the extra stress it would bring (again). Or if he took it I don't think it would be an easy decision for him.

Would he want the Villa job though?

KWJ
03-10-2018, 05:41 PM
Asked skybet for odds on Lenny at Villa. Didn't have any and have now priced him at 16s which seems awfully short. I hope.

jgl07
03-10-2018, 05:48 PM
Would he want the Villa job though?

More to the point Villa will want someone with a proven record in the Championship? Lennon didnít pull up any trees at Bolton.

Wilson
03-10-2018, 05:49 PM
More to the point Villa will want someone with a proven record in the Championship? Lennon didnít pull up any trees at Bolton.

Groundsman's job.

Saturday Boy
03-10-2018, 05:51 PM
More to the point Villa will want someone with a proven record in the Championship? Lennon didnít pull up any trees at Bolton.

Are there any trees in Bolton? Not been there for years, but all that mill town smoke and smog?

😉

Famous Fiver
03-10-2018, 05:56 PM
Villa fans seem to be very keen on present Brentford manager, Thierry Henry through his apparent connections with the major investors, or failing those Brenda from our Glasgow chums.

Brenda maybe hasn't missed out on McGinn, he could be his manager, but not in the way we all thought.

NL isn't anywhere on their radar at this stage.

chrisski33
03-10-2018, 06:04 PM
i reckon paul lambert could be next manager

Keith_M
03-10-2018, 06:10 PM
Villa is a big step up from Hibs, let's be honest here. A bad start to their season doesn't change that.

:agree:

fat freddy
03-10-2018, 06:35 PM
Brenda to Villa, Lenny to Celtic, Steve Clark to Hibs, Jim Jeffries to Killie, Steve Bruce to Weightwatchers.

BILLYHIBS
03-10-2018, 06:41 PM
Okay, let's test your powers. Bet they don't work on Levein. :greengrin

In the pub just now will come back to you 🤔

Greenbeard
03-10-2018, 06:42 PM
Cabbage sales have gone through the roof in shops near Old Trafford.

Greenbeard
03-10-2018, 06:43 PM
Cabbage sales have gone through the roof in shops near Old Trafford.
Some bloke in a balaclava and with a Portuguese accent has been buying them all up.

Lancs Harp
03-10-2018, 06:48 PM
It used to be the vote of no confidence. Now its a cabbage.

Elephant Stone
03-10-2018, 06:49 PM
Some bloke in a balaclava and with a Portuguese accent has been buying them all up.

:greengrin

Ryan69
03-10-2018, 06:50 PM
Probaly wont- hes been there player of the season so far from what I read

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Dont know why...but as soon as i read your post Paul Lambert instantly came to me.

bigwheel
03-10-2018, 06:52 PM
Dont know why...but as soon as i read your post Paul Lambert instantly came to me.

Was there before for 3 years wasnít he ...canít see them going for him again ....

Lago
03-10-2018, 06:54 PM
Wonder how that will affect SJM?
Why would it?

ian cruise
03-10-2018, 07:03 PM
Hope Brenda Rodgers doesnít get it. They might want Neil Lennon and I think he would find it hard to resist.

If they are looking at Scotland then I think they'll be more keen on McInnes or possibly Steve Clark before Lennon. I don't think any of the above will be on their radar, and while they will want Rodgers I can't see him taking it.

An ex-international in the vein of Lampard and Gerrard would be my guess.

Gmack7
03-10-2018, 07:06 PM
Surely a manager who has his unfancied team on the brink of beating Celtic and Rangers to the title must be a shoe in

judas
03-10-2018, 07:09 PM
Stuart Baxter will get it

Lancs Harp
03-10-2018, 07:11 PM
I have a sneaking feeling they will make the big mistake (IMO) of appointing John Terry.

EH54
03-10-2018, 07:13 PM
Thierry Henry was linked in summer, so he could be the man.

PatHead
03-10-2018, 08:18 PM
Why would it?

New manager not fancy him or sell him to raise funds and meet fair play requirements allowing him to get other players.

calumhibee1
03-10-2018, 08:34 PM
New manager not fancy him or sell him to raise funds and meet fair play requirements allowing him to get other players.

The new manager will fancy him. His ability and attitude are second to none at that level.

Pretty Boy
03-10-2018, 08:37 PM
i reckon paul lambert could be next manager

No chance.

Fans were baying for his blood last time around.

NORTHERNHIBBY
03-10-2018, 08:39 PM
I hope that the owners don't ask SJM for advice.

Smartie
04-10-2018, 07:13 AM
The new manager will fancy him. His ability and attitude are second to none at that level.

You never know.

Uncertainty like this is never good for a player.

It gives the players SJM is keeping out the team a clean slate and a fresh start.

Smartie
04-10-2018, 07:14 AM
I hope that the owners don't ask SJM for advice.

Don't you want Stubbsy to get another job?

stokesmessiah
04-10-2018, 07:27 AM
I have a sneaking feeling they will make the big mistake (IMO) of appointing John Terry.

That's who I think it will be as well.

BILLYHIBS
04-10-2018, 08:54 AM
Okay, let's test your powers. Bet they don't work on Levein. :greengrin

Computer says Potter OK for now Josť Mourinho however :bye:

jacomo
04-10-2018, 10:29 AM
You never know.

Uncertainty like this is never good for a player.

It gives the players SJM is keeping out the team a clean slate and a fresh start.


:agree:

FilipinoHibs
04-10-2018, 11:06 AM
If they are looking at Scotland then I think they'll be more keen on McInnes or possibly Steve Clark before Lennon. I don't think any of the above will be on their radar, and while they will want Rodgers I can't see him taking it.

An ex-international in the vein of Lampard and Gerrard would be my guess.

No way Rodgers would go to a Championship club no matter how big they are. Nor will Villa look to Scotland. They need a managed who has experience of the Championship preferably with a record of getting teams in into the EPL. Worries can take their plastic pants off.

bingo70
04-10-2018, 11:29 AM
No way Rodgers would go to a Championship club no matter how big they are. Nor will Villa look to Scotland. They need a managed who has experience of the Championship preferably with a record of getting teams in into the EPL. Worries can take their plastic pants off.

Why wouldn't he go to an English Championship club? He came to Scotland and ours isn't exactly the most fashionable of leagues. I personally think he's unlikely to get a Premiership job any time soon so joining a top Championship side probably represents his best chance of getting back to the Premiership. Aston Villa are a huge club and it sounds like they've got money to spend, with no team looking like they'll be running away with that league i think it would be a great opportunity for him.

I also think he's done all he can do with Celtic and all is clearly not well behind the scenes. He'd jump at the chance to join them IMO.

HUTCHYHIBBY
04-10-2018, 11:45 AM
I'm sure Big Sam will be sniffing around for the job.

Billy Whizz
04-10-2018, 11:48 AM
I'm sure Big Sam will be sniffing around for the job.

Is he not a relegation specialist

bingo70
04-10-2018, 12:02 PM
I'm sure Big Sam will be sniffing around for the job.

Done a good job wherever he's been. Never really understand why he's become such a joke figure in English football.

I dare say if he had a foreign name he'd be a lot more popular.

bigwheel
04-10-2018, 12:08 PM
Done a good job wherever he's been. Never really understand why he's become such a joke figure in English football.

I dare say if he had a foreign name he'd be a lot more popular.


He doesn't come over as a guy with much integrity does he?

soliciting bungs with his son in 2006 is one reason. As well as doing something similar while being the England manager is perhaps another of the reasons he is laughed at.

he does, as you say, have a good record, and that is why he won't be long without a decent job

That said, whilst he gets results...his style in eye bleeding, industrial approach and is not the sort of football that many will want to watch each week. If you are facing relegation you won't care about it, but it is another reason manydont want him as boss

bingo70
04-10-2018, 12:25 PM
He doesn't come over as a guy with much integrity does he?

soliciting bungs with his son in 2006 is one reason. As well as doing something similar while being the England manager is perhaps another of the reasons he is laughed at.

he does, as you say, have a good record, and that is why he won't be long without a decent job

That said, whilst he gets results...his style in eye bleeding, industrial approach and is not the sort of football that many will want to watch each week. If you are facing relegation you won't care about it, but it is another reason manydont want him as boss

Fair points and i don't disagree with any of them.

The only thing i would say is that most of the premiership teams outside the top 5 or 6 don't play particularly exciting football either. I also doubt if the Villa fans would care too much if he came in and got them promoted to the Premiership.

bigwheel
04-10-2018, 12:35 PM
Fair points and i don't disagree with any of them.

The only thing i would say is that most of the premiership teams outside the top 5 or 6 don't play particularly exciting football either. I also doubt if the Villa fans would care too much if he came in and got them promoted to the Premiership.


you right about that aren't you...if we had been murder on the eye but got back up in one season, we would have been celebrating from the rooftops ...

He's not a guy , I (and many others) warm to. Yet his has a lot of admire about him..He is one of the few who has made it from the very lowest reaches of pro football as a coach to the highest...he has been good almost everywhere he has gone..and he is often ignored for some of his forward thinking and innovation around coaching and preparation.. he started and ran a successful building business while still at Bolton etc..so there is a "common working class guy" type about him - Pretty sure his parents were scottish actually, and he was brought up "scottish working class"...yet some other things make you less comfortable with him (some noted previously)..

I suspect he is more sophisticated in his style that he gets credit for...comes over a bit of a student of the game...but he is not the type that comes over well in the media, so that probably creates a negative impression of him..and of course, some of it may be that at times he is a bit of a dick ! :)

FilipinoHibs
04-10-2018, 12:45 PM
Why wouldn't he go to an English Championship club? He came to Scotland and ours isn't exactly the most fashionable of leagues. I personally think he's unlikely to get a Premiership job any time soon so joining a top Championship side probably represents his best chance of getting back to the Premiership. Aston Villa are a huge club and it sounds like they've got money to spend, with no team looking like they'll be running away with that league i think it would be a great opportunity for him.

I also think he's done all he can do with Celtic and all is clearly not well behind the scenes. He'd jump at the chance to join them IMO.

Liverpool to Celtic To the Championship. I think not.

bingo70
04-10-2018, 12:49 PM
you right about that aren't you...if we had been murder on the eye but got back up in one season, we would have been celebrating from the rooftops ...

He's not a guy , I (and many others) warm to. Yet his has a lot of admire about him..He is one of the few who has made it from the very lowest reaches of pro football as a coach to the highest...he has been good almost everywhere he has gone..and he is often ignored for some of his forward thinking and innovation around coaching and preparation.. he started and ran a successful building business while still at Bolton etc..so there is a "common working class guy" type about him - Pretty sure his parents were scottish actually, and he was brought up "scottish working class"...yet some other things make you less comfortable with him (some noted previously)..

I suspect he is more sophisticated in his style that he gets credit for...comes over a bit of a student of the game...but he is not the type that comes over well in the media, so that probably creates a negative impression of him..and of course, some of it may be that at times he is a bit of a dick ! :)

Yeah, I remember hearing when he was at Bolton he was well ahead of his time in terms of sports science and analysis, he's also clearly an excellent motivator so i think the players must like him. The perception of him is certainly that he's a bit of a dinosaur and only knows one way to play but there has to be more to him than that.

I don't disagree about him coming across as a bit of a dick sometimes but there is also times i quite like him, there's nothing pretentious about him and I think maybe one of his biggest flaws is not selling himself in the media the way some managers do.

In a strange sort of way there's probably similarities with Jimmy Calderwood up here, he was someone that did a good job wherever he went but he allowed the media to create a perception of him that lead to him becoming practically unemployable.

bingo70
04-10-2018, 12:50 PM
Liverpool to Celtic To the Championship. I think not.

But why not?

There's a lot of big teams in the Championship now and it's a gateway to the Premiership, he's achieved all he's going to achieve up here and IMO he is coming across pretty unhappy at Celtic just now.

Since90+2
04-10-2018, 12:54 PM
Can't see Rodgers leaving Celtic to manage in the English second tier. He will get a job at a middling Premier League club like a Newcastle or Leicester IMO once one comes up.

bigwheel
04-10-2018, 12:55 PM
Yeah, I remember hearing when he was at Bolton he was well ahead of his time in terms of sports science and analysis, he's also clearly an excellent motivator so i think the players must like him. The perception of him is certainly that he's a bit of a dinosaur and only knows one way to play but there has to be more to him than that.

I don't disagree about him coming across as a bit of a dick sometimes but there is also times i quite like him, there's nothing pretentious about him and I think maybe one of his biggest flaws is not selling himself in the media the way some managers do.

In a strange sort of way there's probably similarities with Jimmy Calderwood up here, he was someone that did a good job wherever he went but he allowed the media to create a perception of him that lead to him becoming practically unemployable.


not a bad comparison...Calderwood somehow seemed to become unemployable into a permanent role after he left Aberdeen...strange if you consider he results with them and Dunfermline.

He had this "old boys club" network style about him , didn't he - the summer holidays to Spain with chic young and that a group of scottish football managers. It seemed to mark him as "old school" probably unfairly...Now is battling alzheimers, wish him well on that journey. Has a good record as a coach/manager.

bingo70
04-10-2018, 01:09 PM
not a bad comparison...Calderwood somehow seemed to become unemployable into a permanent role after he left Aberdeen...strange if you consider he results with them and Dunfermline.

He had this "old boys club" network style about him , didn't he - the summer holidays to Spain with chic young and that a group of scottish football managers. It seemed to mark him as "old school" probably unfairly...Now is battling alzheimers, wish him well on that journey. Has a good record as a coach/manager.

Absolutely, he also managed in Holland for a while so again, similar to Allardyce, i'm not sure that perception of him was correct.

allant1981
04-10-2018, 03:28 PM
Liverpool to Celtic To the Championship. I think not.

yip cant see it, he came up here knowing he would win the league every year

allant1981
04-10-2018, 03:29 PM
But why not?

There's a lot of big teams in the Championship now and it's a gateway to the Premiership, he's achieved all he's going to achieve up here and IMO he is coming across pretty unhappy at Celtic just now.

if he doesnt get a team promoted then his stock goes down, wins another league and cup up here and his reputation goes up higher

Billy Whizz
04-10-2018, 03:31 PM
if he doesnt get a team promoted then his stock goes down, wins another league and cup up here and his reputation goes up higher

Aston Villa with the right financial backing and a Top Manager, are a massive massive club

SeanWilson
04-10-2018, 03:32 PM
It's widely known that he wanted the China job and the Celtic board Vito'd it.... If the AV new owners offer the cash, he'd go IMO.

bigwheel
04-10-2018, 03:35 PM
It's widely known that he wanted the China job and the Celtic board Vito'd it.... If the AV new owners offer the cash, he'd go IMO.


Any reporting or coverage I've heard or read - takes the opposite view. Celtic agreed to it, if he wanted to go..but also made commitments to him to keep him...which he accepted and turned it down...

Have you got different info?

SeanWilson
04-10-2018, 03:42 PM
Any reporting or coverage I've heard or read - takes the opposite view. Celtic agreed to it, if he wanted to go..but also made commitments to him to keep him...which he accepted and turned it down...

Have you got different info?

Ha, I was told exact opposite from someone I'd consider as 'itk' ... Also, Scottish football media coverage in the states (ESPN guys) hold the view that he wanted it. I personally couldn't care less about BR or Villa but I'd hazard a guess that he'd consider it given his current scenario.

bigwheel
04-10-2018, 03:47 PM
Ha, I was told exact opposite from someone I'd consider as 'itk' ... Also, Scottish football media coverage in the states (ESPN guys) hold the view that he wanted it. I personally couldn't care less about BR or Villa but I'd hazard a guess that he'd consider it given his current scenario.

he is on record of being offered huge money to go to China before he took the Celtic Job..here's what he said recently on a more recent approach..not sure villa would be enough for him

Manager Brendan Rodgers says he has had "a few offers" to leave Celtic after revealing he turned down an approach from a Chinese club during the summer.
Rodgers, who has guided the club to successive domestic trebles, confirmed to BBC Scotland "there was an offer" but "my concentration was with Celtic".
And, speaking after the League Cup quarter-final win over St Johnstone, he insisted he was content at Celtic Park.
"With China it's big money, but I've found happiness here," Rodgers said.
"I spoke with the owners and the board and we found an agreement and moved on.
"I've had other opportunities but I'm very much here and unless the club get fed up with me or something else happens I'm very privileged to be here."

jacomo
04-10-2018, 03:55 PM
he is on record of being offered huge money to go to China before he took the Celtic Job..here's what he said recently on a more recent approach..not sure villa would be enough for him

Manager Brendan Rodgers says he has had "a few offers" to leave Celtic after revealing he turned down an approach from a Chinese club during the summer.
Rodgers, who has guided the club to successive domestic trebles, confirmed to BBC Scotland "there was an offer" but "my concentration was with Celtic".
And, speaking after the League Cup quarter-final win over St Johnstone, he insisted he was content at Celtic Park.
"With China it's big money, but I've found happiness here," Rodgers said.
"I spoke with the owners and the board and we found an agreement and moved on.
"I've had other opportunities but I'm very much here and unless the club get fed up with me or something else happens I'm very privileged to be here."


Rodgers is seen as a bit of a trumpet by many in England.

Some flattery about Ďtaking a huge club back to their rightful placeí + lack of offers from top clubs + a suitcase full of cash might turn his head.

I have no idea if Villa are interested in Rodgers. But when he does leave Celtc I doubt it will be for anyone in top half of epl.

Dalianwanda
04-10-2018, 04:03 PM
At least he has his literary career to fall back on.
https://thesetpieces.com/features/sweeper-steve-bruce-review/

weecounty hibby
04-10-2018, 05:12 PM
Neil being touted for the job by ex Villa striker Dean Saunders

jacomo
04-10-2018, 09:20 PM
At least he has his literary career to fall back on.
https://thesetpieces.com/features/sweeper-steve-bruce-review/


Great read that!

(His book, maybe not)

lapsedhibee
04-10-2018, 09:44 PM
At least he has his literary career to fall back on.
https://thesetpieces.com/features/sweeper-steve-bruce-review/

:greengrin

HoboHarry
05-10-2018, 01:22 AM
Dean Saunders can go get stuffed. That's all I have to say about that.

timewilltell
05-10-2018, 06:43 AM
Neil being touted for the job by ex Villa striker Dean Saunders

Never going to happen. Owners have huge financial resources, so no disrespect to Neil who is doing a great job with us, but Villa will be going for a much bigger name.

bingo70
05-10-2018, 06:49 AM
Never going to happen. Owners have huge financial resources, so no disrespect to Neil who is doing a great job with us, but Villa will be going for a much bigger name.

I agree.

I think itís inevitable clubs will start showing an interest in him soon however It wont be Aston Villa.

A bigger concern for me would be if they go for Rodgers or the guy from Brentford, Lennon would be an ideal replacement for either of them IMO.

Hiber-nation
10-10-2018, 09:35 PM
Dean Smith appointed Villa manager with Terry as assistant.

Tug Wilson
10-10-2018, 10:03 PM
I agree.

I think itís inevitable clubs will start showing an interest in him soon however It wont be Aston Villa.

A bigger concern for me would be if they go for Rodgers or the guy from Brentford, Lennon would be an ideal replacement for either of them IMO.

Suspect that Brentford will appoint a manager with good English league experience. In many ways I am thankful that Lennon had a tough time at Bolton. Although we (mostly) all see what an amazing manager he is, I suspect that he will have to win either a cup or get at least 2nd place in the league to make sufficient waves down South.

I just don't see any signs that he wants to leave Hibs. The board have continually back him. We are seeing the benefits of a settled regime that is about evolution of the club.

The exciting thing is that we all know that the recruitment department will currently be identifying potential targets for the January window and that we can trust their judgement to get it right.

Good times.

jacomo
10-10-2018, 10:23 PM
Dean Smith appointed Villa manager with Terry as assistant.


Interesting appointment. The media were pitching it as an Ďeither orí story yesterday.

How long before Terry spits the dummy? Or is he genuinely interested in learning his trade?

Stevie Reid
11-10-2018, 07:02 AM
Suspect that Brentford will appoint a manager with good English league experience. In many ways I am thankful that Lennon had a tough time at Bolton. Although we (mostly) all see what an amazing manager he is, I suspect that he will have to win either a cup or get at least 2nd place in the league to make sufficient waves down South.

I just don't see any signs that he wants to leave Hibs. The board have continually back him. We are seeing the benefits of a settled regime that is about evolution of the club.

The exciting thing is that we all know that the recruitment department will currently be identifying potential targets for the January window and that we can trust their judgement to get it right.

Good times.

Agree. I found it staggering that all that his success at Celtic got him was Bolton in the Championship - I thought a club like Newcastle may have been in for him.

46 games a week is a killer down there - throw in the various cup competitions and you're playing weekend/midweek/weekend practically every week. They tend to like managers with experience of such schedules.

Peevemor
11-10-2018, 07:05 AM
Agree. I found it staggering that all that his success at Celtic got him was Bolton in the Championship - I thought a club like Newcastle may have been in for him.

46 games a week is a killer down there - throw in the various cup competitions and you're playing weekend/midweek/weekend practically every week. They tend to like managers with experience of such schedules.

:shocked:

SirDavidsNapper
11-10-2018, 07:10 AM
I agree.

I think itís inevitable clubs will start showing an interest in him soon however It wont be Aston Villa.

A bigger concern for me would be if they go for Rodgers or the guy from Brentford, Lennon would be an ideal replacement for either of them IMO.

I don't think Lennon is in any rush to leave. Seems like he's in a very good place personally at Hibs.

Stevie Reid
11-10-2018, 07:21 AM
:shocked:

Haha, oops! It's early :greengrin

jacomo
11-10-2018, 08:01 AM
I agree.

I think itís inevitable clubs will start showing an interest in him soon however It wont be Aston Villa.

A bigger concern for me would be if they go for Rodgers or the guy from Brentford, Lennon would be an ideal replacement for either of them IMO.


Canít see Lenny wanting to move to West London.

sauzee=legend
11-10-2018, 08:01 AM
John Terry will be on the bench fully dressed in his kit
Just like after the champions league 😂