League Cup semi finals

[G B Young]

Budge's outrage rings hollow according to this article, which asserts that 'accountability extends to those who are bleating the loudest':

https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/teams/celtic/stephen-halliday-easy-to-blame-neil-doncaster-but-look-closer-to-home-1-4807154

[Dancehibs]

Levein is 100% correct here.

There might be a certain side to him where he likes to wind people up a bit but there are also rare times where he just tells it how it is.

This is very similar to an interview he did at Ibrox while he was manager of Dundee United. No nonsense and calling out the Glasgow based institutions for what they are.

Hope it’s an Aberdeen Hearts final just to piss them off.
These gorgie tramps get to a final and bring more income in than us. Good one

[G B Young]

Really?

You can’t see an issue with games being scheduled so that fans can’t use public transport to get to or home from the game?

Or two matches at the same venue on the same day?

A quick look on the trainline website reveals that the cheapest return ticket from Aberdeen to Glasgow that day costs £60. How many Dons fans would realistically be getting the train to the game at those prices? Unless there was a football special arranged (when did such a thing last happen?) the vast majority would be coming by car or supporters bus. Fact is, no matter when the kick-off is scheduled, getting to Hampden is always a pain in the arse for Aberdeen simply due to their geographical location.

We're also talking about League Cup semi-finals here, which are hardly the hottest ticket in town. Last season Hibs asked for 25k tickets for a Saturday lunchtime kick-off and we ended up with about 10k unsold. Levein's moaning about wanting a 'massive' Hearts support at Hampden smacks of playing to the galleries. What if they'd drawn Aberdeen in the semi-final instead? The more logical neutral venue geographically for that game would be Tannadice but you can bet Hearts' 'solidarity' with Aberdeen over their travel headaches would quickly disappear if such a decision was ever made.

Now that the dust is starting to settle, I'd hazard a guess this whole thing will pass off pretty much problem-free. All that really matters is that the yams get a gubbed :wink:

[DH1875]

Rangers fans already messing about. Some of them are trying to arrange it so that if they win, they stay in the stadium as long as they can. If they can get enough of them to do it, who's gonna move them? Also arranging that win or lose their in the pubs around Hampden after their game/before the celtic game. Church on the Hill, Montford, clockwork orange and some other pub starting with a D are the ones their targeting. Say what you want but you'll get some knobheads going along with the idea and even 70/100 of them in one of these pubs is asking for trouble.

I live in Glasgow and think its a mental idea having these games on the same day. It's bad enough when their playing each other but throwing hearts and Aberdeen into the mix is mental. I'm not sure how its reported outside of Glasgow but there was loads of trouble in town after the last oldfirm game including guys getting stabbed near central station.

[Keith_M]

Now that Craigie 'B Negative' Levein and Doctor Budgie Smugglers are raging about it, it's started to become fun.


:greengrin

[Kavinho]

Awww maaan..
Just woken up to this decision checked my calender and I'm in Glasgow at Kevin bridges the night before.
Will be a nightmare getting back through to the station & home.

Won't be hanging around..

[Kavinho]

A quick look on the trainline website reveals that the cheapest return ticket from Aberdeen to Glasgow that day costs £60. How many Dons fans would realistically be getting the train to the game at those prices? Unless there was a football special arranged (when did such a thing last happen?) the vast majority would be coming by car or supporters bus. Fact is, no matter when the kick-off is scheduled, getting to Hampden is always a pain in the arse for Aberdeen simply due to their geographical location.

We're also talking about League Cup semi-finals here, which are hardly the hottest ticket in town. Last season Hibs asked for 25k tickets for a Saturday lunchtime kick-off and we ended up with about 10k unsold. Levein's moaning about wanting a 'massive' Hearts support at Hampden smacks of playing to the galleries. What if they'd drawn Aberdeen in the semi-final instead? The more logical neutral venue geographically for that game would be Tannadice but you can bet Hearts' 'solidarity' with Aberdeen over their travel headaches would quickly disappear if such a decision was ever made.

Now that the dust is starting to settle, I'd hazard a guess this whole thing will pass off pretty much problem-free. All that really matters is that the yams get a gubbed :wink:

Care to set a definition to "pretty much problem-free"?

[Keith_M]

Care to set a definition to "pretty much problem-free"?


As in, no 'visiting' fans will bother going, so the 'home' fans will have nobody to fight with except each other (which is not a problem for the rest of us)

[G B Young]

Care to set a definition to "pretty much problem-free"?

As in it will all pass off pretty much the same as any other League Cup semi-final weekend in Glasgow. Might be some bother, but not significantly more than usual.

I might be wildly wrong and it'll turn out to be an all-out riot but I'd be surprised.

[G B Young]

As in, no 'visiting' fans will bother going, so the 'home' fans will have nobody to fight with except each other (which is not a problem for the rest of us)

How many 'visiting' fans usually attend a League Cup semi v one of the old firm in Glasgow? It's never close to a sell-out no matter what the kick-off time.

[Danderhall Hibs]

So the SPL accepted a contract that ensured that two specified clubs would get favourable treatment by always play semi-finals in their own city, regardless of circumstances. Why does that not surprise me.

The contract says any game that will have more than 20k in attendance - if hearts had drawn Aberdeen it would’ve been at Hampden as well. The issue is that Rangers/Celtic didn’t get drawn together.

[Caversham Green]

The contract says any game that will have more than 20k in attendance - if hearts had drawn Aberdeen it would’ve been at Hampden as well. The issue is that Rangers/Celtic didn’t get drawn together.

That's not what the SPFL response says - they specify "any game involving Celtic or Rangers ". The 'inherited from the SPL' bit strikes me as rather disingenuous as well since they're essentially the same bodies.

[SHODAN]

wow

[Danderhall Hibs]

That's not what the SPFL response says - they specify "any game involving Celtic or Rangers ". The 'inherited from the SPL' bit strikes me as rather disingenuous as well since they're essentially the same bodies.

Think it said “and any game with an expected attendance of 20k”.

I thought the SPL merged with the SFL? 2 organisations into 1 so presumably there’s be some differences.

[PatHead]

Remember us getting a 6 pm kick off against Aberdeen at Hampden which I think was on Sunday. Don’t remember any club agreeing it was ridiculous.

[Phil MaGlass]

i would actually like to see fans of all clubs boycotting the games, send a message.

[Caversham Green]

Think it said “and any game with an expected attendance of 20k”.

I thought the SPL merged with the SFL? 2 organisations into 1 so presumably there’s be some differences.

It does specify Celtic and Rangers. in any case a contract that forces Hibs and Hearts to play at Hampden when Murrayfield is available is not a good one IMO.

Regarding the SPL/SPFL, yes there will be some differences but none of them will be relevant to the matter in hand, and the same person is at the head of both. The 'inherited' comment looks to me like an attempt to deflect blame - a bit like Sevco do when it's convenient for them.

[Danderhall Hibs]

It does specify Celtic and Rangers. in any case a contract that forces Hibs and Hearts to play at Hampden when Murrayfield is available is not a good one IMO.

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It does say Rangers and Celtic and any other game 20k+. Presumably Rangers and Celtic games would always have an assumed attendance of 20k so no real need to specify but they have. Nothing to get worked about though.

[Killiehibbie]

Remember us getting a 6 pm kick off against Aberdeen at Hampden which I think was on Sunday. Don’t remember any club agreeing it was ridiculous.Also remember another SC semi on a Wednesday night with less than 10,000 in attendance. If the travelling supporters are given any consideration these games would have weekend mid-afternoon kick off times.

[Danderhall Hibs]

Also remember another SC semi on a Wednesday night with less than 10,000 in attendance. If the travelling supporters are given any consideration these games would have weekend mid-afternoon kick off times.

That was the Dunfermline replay in 2007.

[SHODAN]

It does specify Celtic and Rangers. in any case a contract that forces Hibs and Hearts to play at Hampden when Murrayfield is available is not a good one IMO.

Nail on head. If we were the ones being shafted after progressing to the semi-final having narrowly avoided being kicked out in the group stage, not a single person on here would be saying "oh well we should be out anyway so it's fine". We'd be going ape****.

[Killiehibbie]

That was the Dunfermline replay in 2007.1979 against Aberdeen, 9300 and odds.

[Caversham Green]

It does say Rangers and Celtic and any other game 20k+. Presumably Rangers and Celtic games would always have an assumed attendance of 20k so no real need to specify but they have. Nothing to get worked about though.

It's one of the main factors leading to the position where 50% of the clubs remaining in the competition are getting worked up. From a personal point of view I don't give much of a toss as Hibs aren't involved but it highlights yet again that the Scottish game is run by idiots.

[G B Young]

Hearts are getting worked up about very little here. A Sunday night kick-off at Hampden is no more problematical in terms of transport or kids being able to attend than a midweek evening kick-off at Hampden.

The real root of the problem is two-fold. Firstly, the way TV has normalised Sunday football and created all sorts of fan-unfriendly kick-off times. Secondly, the relatively recent normalisation of playing almost all cup semi-finals at Hampden. IMHO only cup finals should be held at the national stadium. I've seen Hibs play cup semis at Dens Park, Ibrox and Tynecastle , while Easter Road used to hold its fair share too. I even recall a League Cup FINAL between Aberdeen and Dundee United in the 1980s being played at Dens Park. Can you imagine that being even considered today? Most of these venues were selected to suit the geography of the teams involved, something which seems to have been all but thrown out the window by the powers that be. As somebody else has mentioned, why on earth was our Scottish Cup semi final v Dunfermline in 2007 held at Hampden (not just the original tie but the replay too)? Tynecastle was the obvious venue for that one. Witness our 2015 League Cup semi v St Johnstone which was held at Tynecastle. A rare, sensible decision which ensured a full house, a great atmosphere and a pretty straightforward day out for both sets of fans.

The rule should be that all semi-finals are played at as mutually convenient a ground as possible for the clubs involved. The only time Hampden should be required is for an Old Firm semi-final.

[weecounty hibby]

Heard a Jambo in the hearts love in that is BBC radio and he was saying that he wouldnt go as he takes his grandson who is 9 and they wouldn't be home till midnight. What a load of *****. It's midnight not three days away from home. It is a bad decision but get on with it ya moaning faced *******s. Remember when they couldn't sell out ER and the excuse then was that they didn't want to go to our ground. This is just a ready made excuse for them. They want everyone to believe that they are some giant of world football when in fact they wouldn't sell 25,000 tickets for a semi even if it was in Edinburgh. Fannies, get it right up them

[Gloucester Hibs]

Heard a Jambo in the hearts love in that is BBC radio and he was saying that he would go as he takes his grandson who is 9 and they wouldn't be home till midnight. What a load of *****. It's midnight not three days away from home. It is a bad decision but get on with it ya moaning faced *******s. Remember when they couldn't sell out ER and the excuse then was that they didn't want to go to our ground. This is just a ready made excuse for them. They want everyone to believe that they are some giant of world football when in fact they wouldn't sell 25,000 tickets for a semi even if it was in Edinburgh. Fannies, get it right up them

A whopping 12k - IN TOTAL - there for their semi v ICT in Edinburgh 4 years ago.

[G B Young]

Heard a Jambo in the hearts love in that is BBC radio and he was saying that he wouldnt go as he takes his grandson who is 9 and they wouldn't be home till midnight. What a load of *****. It's midnight not three days away from home. It is a bad decision but get on with it ya moaning faced *******s. Remember when they couldn't sell out ER and the excuse then was that they didn't want to go to our ground. This is just a ready made excuse for them. They want everyone to believe that they are some giant of world football when in fact they wouldn't sell 25,000 tickets for a semi even if it was in Edinburgh. Fannies, get it right up them

More concerning than getting your grandchild home at midnight is the thought you would consider taking him to a Celtic v Hearts game in Glasgow, even if it was a 3pm Saturday kick-off.

As you say, they've played semi-finals at Easter Road on more than one occasion in the recent past and have come nowhere near selling out their allocation so it's time to give this a rest.

[Sir David Gray]

Based on the alternatives on offer, I agree with him. I hate the 'old firm' duopoly and the bias behind it more than our traditional local ivalry with Hertz.

I always find it hard to choose a team I'd want to win when Hearts play Celtic anyway.

I hate Celtic as much as anyone but I don't want Hearts anywhere near a cup final regardless of who they're playing.

I despise Celtic and Rangers in terms of what their clubs stand for, much more than I despise Hearts but from a sporting rivalry point of view, I can't stand the thought of Hearts winning anything and I hope they get pumped by Celtic.

[OsloHibs]

Glasgow & Leeds are similar in size- there is no way Liverpool, Man utd, Chelsea & Man city would play there in that city on the same day.

[Crab apple]

London is obviously much bigger than Glasgow but today, like most weekends, you have a number of team playing there. Today you'll have Liverpool, Man Utd, Chelsea, West Ham, Millwall and Sheffield Utd fans as well as many smaller clubs fans and there'll be little if any trouble.

[lapsedhibee]

London is obviously much bigger than Glasgow but today, like most weekends, you have a number of team playing there. Today you'll have Liverpool, Man Utd, Chelsea, West Ham, Millwall and Sheffield Utd fans as well as many smaller clubs fans and there'll be little if any trouble.

Not wholly comparable because few, if any, of those fans you refer to will spend all day goading rival fans by having been born fenians.

[Crab apple]

Not wholly comparable because few, if any, of those fans you refer to will spend all day goading rival fans by having been born fenians.

That's really my point. It doesn't matter what day or time the games are on when the big Huns are playing. Many of their fans will always behave like ****.

[lapsedhibee]

That's really my point. It doesn't matter what day or time the games are on when the big Huns are playing. Many of their fans will always behave like **** .

Too true, though it's possible the amount of ****ness on show later may be raised by their all having met earlier to sing folk songs together.

[Crunchie]

Heard a Jambo in the hearts love in that is BBC radio and he was saying that he wouldnt go as he takes his grandson who is 9 and they wouldn't be home till midnight. What a load of *****. It's midnight not three days away from home. It is a bad decision but get on with it ya moaning faced *******s. Remember when they couldn't sell out ER and the excuse then was that they didn't want to go to our ground. This is just a ready made excuse for them. They want everyone to believe that they are some giant of world football when in fact they wouldn't sell 25,000 tickets for a semi even if it was in Edinburgh. Fannies, get it right up them
I heard Preston banging on about a generation of fans missing out, he's a grade A roaster and a bit of a fantasist. I think they only have 1 gripe and it's the pitch and if it's in a state by the time they come around to play. Saying that having it like a tattie field would benefit them.

Games were always played midweek and I see no big deal in them playing this at night on a Sunday. I wouldn't be complaining if it were us, I'd rather have the night game than the 12pm KO.

[cabbageandribs1875]

big huns and imitation huns to bring out half & half scarves for the SF's


and after the aberdeen fans antics on tuesday they're bringing out red/blue and dark pink scarves

[Pete]

No really don’t ...think people are making a much bigger thing than it is ...

The two matches at the same place is quite innovative ..why not see it as a “super cup Sunday” event ??

There are 1230 and 1945 kickoffs in Glasgow regularly. Nothing different happening here. also it is 4 weeks away..plenty of time to arrange travel other than train...so no, I really don’t see it as a big thing. Could be viewed as an exciting thing..

It's just frustrating that an unusual situation has found a predictable outcome...the Glasgow clubs being accommodated while the others are inconvenienced.. It's Aberdeen and Hearts fans who will lose out by not being able to take as many supporters as they might have if the games were scheduled on separate days. Hearts have a point but Aberdeen, once again have been shafted due to the early kick off and lack of choice.

You make a good point about seeing the positive aspect though. I remember a rugby league weekend in Edinburgh a few years ago and it was great, a real carnival atmosphere. Maybe it's something to consider for the future as the Scottish game needs a bit of innovation to jump start it and maybe set it apart from the money laden English league. People joked about having the final on the Sunday too but maybe there's an idea in there.

If something positive comes from this problem with its ad-hoc, Glasow-centric solution then I suppose the weekend will have been a success. Let's wait and see what happens though.

[Pete]

Based on the alternatives on offer, I agree with him. I hate the 'old firm' duopoly and the bias behind it more than our traditional local ivalry with Hertz.

I always find it hard to choose a team I'd want to win when Hearts play Celtic anyway.

Indeed, You have to look at the bigger picture and realise that our rivalry is small potatoes compared to what has been holding our league and national game back for decades.

Others have gasped at the financial aspect of Hearts getting to a cup final but I couldn't really care. The day I worry about other teams winning games on a financial basis is the the day I pack it in. If we get there, great and it's nice wee side issue but Hearts are there on merit so I'm not bothered about how much cash is involved. It doesn't effect Hibs.

Also, I'm not sure the default position for someone who loves Hibs is to have this total hatred of hearts and wish them nothing but bad in everything they do. Like I said, there's a bigger picture and maybe it's a fairly recent phenomenon involving social media etc...

I don't particularly want Hearts to win any trophies but I know more sound, genuine Hearts fans than I do Rangers or Celtic fans. Growing up in a "mixed" environment, I realise that in the grand scheme of things, they are exactly the same sort of non-entity that we are.

I'm not going to judge anyone who disagrees with me but the one thing I will say is that if you're effected by what others say about you and feel undermined as a result then maybe it's time to grow up a bit. It's all about HFC!

[Libby Hibby]

Indeed, You have to look at the bigger picture and realise that our rivalry is small potatoes compared to what has been holding our league and national game back for decades.

Others have gasped at the financial aspect of Hearts getting to a cup final but I couldn't really care. The day I worry about other teams winning games on a financial basis is the the day I pack it in. If we get there, great and it's nice wee side issue but Hearts are there on merit so I'm not bothered about how much cash is involved. It doesn't effect Hibs.

Also, I'm not sure the default position for someone who loves Hibs is to have this total hatred of hearts and wish them nothing but bad in everything they do. Like I said, there's a bigger picture and maybe it's a fairly recent phenomenon involving social media etc...

I don't particularly want Hearts to win any trophies but I know more sound, genuine Hearts fans than I do Rangers or Celtic fans. Growing up in a "mixed" environment, I realise that in the grand scheme of things, they are exactly the same sort of non-entity that we are.

I'm not going to judge anyone who disagrees with me but the one thing I will say is that if you're effected by what others say about you and feel undermined as a result then maybe it's time to grow up a bit. It's all about HFC!

The issue I have is Hearts are NOT there on merit, they were dealt a huge slice of luck by the SPFL’s decision on them fielding an eligible player and for that, I feel they should of kept their feelings private on the semi final ruling.

I personally don’t see any alternatives for the SPFL if the games HAVE to be played that weekend. If ALL sets of fans behave in the correct manner then it should be a great spectacle.

In my opinion all the negative reasons surrounding the semi are for issues that may never happen. There is absolutely no reason on paper that the day should not be a success opposed to failure if all sets of fans embrace the occasion and enjoy their day.

To be honest, the timings make no difference to the actual football. Both Aberdeen and Hearts are making noise for when they don’t sell their allocation. All clubs put finance before fans. If they didn’t, the current TV deal would not have such an influence on our game.

[Chic Murray]

I think it's interesting that we have reached a point where whether kids can go to a football game, or not, is used as an argument about when and where it should be played.

Apart from anything else, I only have one shell suit and my kids hate football (although I'm pretty sure it's me they really despise.)

I'm away to hoover the baby.

[1875godsgift]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/45713750

It's too tiring for the horses.....

[where'stheslope]

The issue I have is Hearts are NOT there on merit, they were dealt a huge slice of luck by the SPFL’s decision on them fielding an eligible player and for that, I feel they should of kept their feelings private on the semi final ruling.

I personally don’t see any alternatives for the SPFL if the games HAVE to be played that weekend. If ALL sets of fans behave in the correct manner then it should be a great spectacle.

In my opinion all the negative reasons surrounding the semi are for issues that may never happen. There is absolutely no reason on paper that the day should not be a success opposed to failure if all sets of fans embrace the occasion and enjoy their day.

To be honest, the timings make no difference to the actual football. Both Aberdeen and Hearts are making noise for when they don’t sell their allocation. All clubs put finance before fans. If they didn’t, the current TV deal would not have such an influence on our game.
I take your point about the SPFL not expelling from the cup, but that aside, are both Glasgow sides playing away in Europe on the same day?

Answer, NO one is always at home, so in my fair mind the team playing at home plays Saturday the away side plays Sunday!

Why is it not possible to play both European ties in Glasgow at the same time?

Answer, The Police would not be able to allow it!

For some very strange reason Police Scotland have said play it on the same day, but now reports say they are looking at the logistics of playing 2 games on the 1 day????

If we were in this position I'm sure everyone on here would be decrying everything SPFL, about the handling of these semi's!

Just think back to our own semi's and finals, it was a day out to remember on both occasions, not a month before having to try and get Scotrail to put on early trains on a Sunday from Aberdeen and later trains if required on a Sunday night to Edinburgh, I'm not sure it would have taken all the gloss off the games, but you won't invade the field at the end if your going to have to walk home!!!!!

[Gatecrasher]

There's potential for the hearts game to be moved to Murrayfield now, classic spfl shambles :hilarious

[Billy Whizz]

There's potential for the hearts game to be moved to Murrayfield now, classic spfl shambles :hilarious

Will they play them on the same day?

[Gatecrasher]

Will they play them on the same day?

Don't know, they haven't confirmed anything yet. Just saying that they are looking to move it.

[Carheenlea]

Heard a Jambo in the hearts love in that is BBC radio and he was saying that he wouldnt go as he takes his grandson who is 9 and they wouldn't be home till midnight. What a load of *****. It's midnight not three days away from home. It is a bad decision but get on with it ya moaning faced *******s. Remember when they couldn't sell out ER and the excuse then was that they didn't want to go to our ground. This is just a ready made excuse for them. They want everyone to believe that they are some giant of world football when in fact they wouldn't sell 25,000 tickets for a semi even if it was in Edinburgh. Fannies, get it right up them

I listened to the Off the Ball podcast and one of the guests was a Hearts fan with a Wallace Mercer style accent who wouldn’t be going along with his 13 year old grandson as it would be too late for him. All very Hearts. Maybe the school day starts earlier at George Heriots.. The other guest was Robbie Neilson so not the greatest of shows it must be said.

[Billy Whizz]

Don't know, they haven't confirmed anything yet. Just saying that they are looking to move it.

Just heard something on radio. They’ll want to show both games, so wonder what the ko times will be to accommodate tv

[CropleyWasGod]

Just heard something on radio. They’ll want to show both games, so wonder what the ko times will be to accommodate tv

1am and 7am, apparently.

Makes sense.

[Billy Whizz]

1am and 7am, apparently.

Makes sense.

Ha ha

Hearts always seem to come up roses. Move to Murrayfield, on their door step and a bigger crowd possible

[Moulin Yarns]

Wait for the outcry from Celtc fans that they will be inconvenienced.

[weecounty hibby]

Let's see what happens when it's Murrayfield at a 3 pm KO and a 50/50 split. What will be the excuses when a super duper, massive, big, ginourmous, gargantuan club like hearts don't sell all of their tickets when they have moaned like **** about the KO time being 7:45 hampering them getting there. 33,500 or there about a tickets to sell. Anyone remember how they got on with ticket sales last time they played a semi in Edinburgh?
None of this detracts from the fact that the SPFL and Doncaster are a total joke. But GIRU hearts anyway

[Billy Whizz]

Wait for the outcry from Celtc fans that they will be inconvenienced.

So more Celtic fans will have to travel to Murrayfielf, than Hearts fans would have travelled to Hampden
Seems a result for Queen Ann

[gordie18]

It’s going to be hard enough for them to find their way to Hamden without expecting them to have to do it in the dark!!


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[SHODAN]

For once a team based in Glasgow has to travel outside of Glasgow to a neutral venue. Can't say I'm bothered.

Also, this means we might be able to establish a precedent that future neutral venue Edinburgh derbies are to be staged at Murrayfield.

[Keith_M]

I just read the SPFL statement in the Evening News and didn't see a single mention of Murrayfield as an alternative option.

[cabbageandribs1875]

I just read the SPFL statement in the Evening News and didn't see a single mention of Murrayfield as an alternative option.



This month's Scottish League Cup semi-final arrangements could be changed - with one heading to Edinburgh - amid criticism of the original plans.
The Scottish Professional Football league is considering moving Hearts' meeting with Celtic to Murrayfield on Sunday afternoon, 28 October.
It comes after Hampden Park Limited waived its right to host both games.
SPFL chief executive Neil Doncaster said: "This is clearly extremely welcome news."
Aberdeen are scheduled to meet Rangers at noon, with Celtic playing Hearts at 19.45 BST, and Police Scotland had earlier asked for further talks about the plan to hold both at Hampden that day.

[Centre Hawf]

FWIW I can understand why people with small kids wouldn't want to take them to Glasgow for a 7:45 kick off on a School night. I'd probably make an allowance if it were Hibs and I had a child but I can understand why others wouldn't.

Still don't think they'll get anywhere near their allocation sold out at Murrayfield if it moves there.

[Carheenlea]

Would be hilarious if Murrayfield told them to bolt after the shoddy way the respective national stadium bids were ultimately decided.

[cabbageandribs1875]

FWIW I can understand why people with small kids wouldn't want to take them to Glasgow for a 7:45 kick off on a School night. I'd probably make an allowance if it were Hibs and I had a child but I can understand why others wouldn't.

Still don't think they'll get anywhere near their allocation sold out at Murrayfield if it moves there.



they should get near it, i for one would be absolutely delighted if we got a cup SF game at Murrayfield, what's the odds on events like this happening again

[DarlingtonHibee]

Would be hilarious if Murrayfield told them to bolt after the shoddy way the respective national stadium bids were ultimately decided.

Murray field can name their price.

[Carheenlea]

Murray field can name their price.

Very true - I can’t see the SRU doing any cut price deals to help Scottish Football out.

[Billy Whizz]

Murray field can name their price.

Seemingly the 2 clubs have to pay for it

[Carheenlea]

Seemingly the 2 clubs have to pay for it

That would surprise me, unless both both clubs have indicated they’d be happy to do so?

[Keith_M]

This month's Scottish League Cup semi-final arrangements could be changed - with one heading to Edinburgh - amid criticism of the original plans.
The Scottish Professional Football league is considering moving Hearts' meeting with Celtic to Murrayfield on Sunday afternoon, 28 October.
It comes after Hampden Park Limited waived its right to host both games.
SPFL chief executive Neil Doncaster said: "This is clearly extremely welcome news."
Aberdeen are scheduled to meet Rangers at noon, with Celtic playing Hearts at 19.45 BST, and Police Scotland had earlier asked for further talks about the plan to hold both at Hampden that day.



That's not in the SPFL statement, it's the Evening News' headline.

[Billy Whizz]

That would surprise me, unless both both clubs have indicated they’d be happy to do so?

That’s what I heard earlier
Surprised Celtic want to play in Edinburgh, unless it’s an a much earlier ko

[DarlingtonHibee]

Seemingly the 2 clubs have to pay for it

Think spfl will pay and it will come out the total pot

[hibbyfraelibby]

Seemingly the 2 clubs have to pay for it

Receipts for the semis is pooled as are costs so each club get one quarter of the remaining kitty.

[DarlingtonHibee]

Receipts for the semis is pooled as are costs so each club get one quarter of the remaining kitty.

And here's hoping sru take them to the cleaners plus police costs for a Sunday

[Danderhall Hibs]

That’s what I heard earlier
Surprised Celtic want to play in Edinburgh, unless it’s an a much earlier ko

Can’t be too late in the afternoon - imagine the chaos for them trying to get back along the M8?

[Danderhall Hibs]

Receipts for the semis is pooled as are costs so each club get one quarter of the remaining kitty.

Daryl Broadfoot (SpFL/SFA apologist) was on the radio last night saying the loss that’d be made by moving to Murrayfield would have to be agreed by the SPFL (who are of course controlled by the clubs).

Maybe the SPFL are calling their members bluff?

[Nakedmanoncrack]

Wait for the outcry from Celtc fans that they will be inconvenienced.

I really wouldn't have thought so.

[G B Young]

Wait for the outcry from Celtc fans that they will be inconvenienced.

Doubt they'll be bothered.

Wonder how much Murrayfield will charge for use of the ground?

Whatever, if it does get played at Murrayfield I guess it will be all the more satisfying seeing the yams' family day out spoiled when they get gubbed.

[BullsCloseHibs]

I now hope Celtic go all out and dump these tramps out of the mickey mouse trophy after they appear to have got their wish after a week of toy throwing by Potter, Budge and co. Might even sit in the Green end and watch the wingers get humped. Just for fun.

[Lancs Harp]

The goalposts will be the right shape for Hearts at least.:wink:

[Hi Heid Yin]

I now hope Celtic go all out and dump these tramps out of the mickey mouse trophy after they appear to have got their wish after a week of toy throwing by Potter, Budge and co. Might even sit in the Green end and watch the wingers get humped. Just for fun.

I know where you're coming from, but I see it as setting a precedent, whereby our club might similarly benefit from playing an important game at Murrayfield.

[Renfrew_Hibby]

BBC news just said there is potential to move the first semi to Murrayfield.

So Dons v Gers at Murrayfield
& Hearts v Celtic at Hampden

[Juniper Greens]

I now hope Celtic go all out and dump these tramps out of the mickey mouse trophy after they appear to have got their wish after a week of toy throwing by Potter, Budge and co. Might even sit in the Green end and watch the wingers get humped. Just for fun.

Why would you attend that game? We are HIBS fans

[1van Sprou7e]

I now hope Celtic go all out and dump these tramps out of the mickey mouse trophy after they appear to have got their wish after a week of toy throwing by Potter, Budge and co. Might even sit in the Green end and watch the wingers get humped. Just for fun.

Embarrassing post

[NthCarolinaHibs]

I now hope Celtic go all out and dump these tramps out of the mickey mouse trophy after they appear to have got their wish after a week of toy throwing by Potter, Budge and co. Might even sit in the Green end and watch the wingers get humped. Just for fun.

Deary deary me....

[Keith_M]

BBC news just said there is potential to move the first semi to Murrayfield.

So Dons v Gers at Murrayfield
& Hearts v Celtic at Hampden


That would be hilarious.


:greengrin

[Geo_1875]

I just hope that the grass is cut to a reasonable length for what is a major game in Scotland.

[coldingham hibs]

Doubt they'll be bothered.

Wonder how much Murrayfield will charge for use of the ground?

Whatever, if it does get played at Murrayfield I guess it will be all the more satisfying seeing the yams' family day out spoiled when they get gubbed.

If you’ve watched Celtic the past few weeks I’m not sure I can see Hearts getting gubbed unfortunately.

[Tarrahib]

We were happy to play in the final of this Mickey Mouse Cup against Ross County in 2016.I am sure most hibs fans would have been delighted if we had won the trophy,which we should have done.

[Danderhall Hibs]

That would be hilarious.


:greengrin

It would be. And it’s easier and quicker for Aberdeen fans on the train so is the most logical.

[Billy Whizz]

BBC news just said there is potential to move the first semi to Murrayfield.

So Dons v Gers at Murrayfield
& Hearts v Celtic at Hampden

Can’t see anything on BBC website
Got a link

[CentreLine]

BBC news just said there is potential to move the first semi to Murrayfield.

So Dons v Gers at Murrayfield
& Hearts v Celtic at Hampden

That would make sense since hearts used the place as their home ground very recently. I realise there is a precedent for that but best avoided I would have thought

[percy veer]

not sure why people are hell bent on wanting to help out hearts, remember this is the same team who cheated in the the same competition and would have been out if cove were awarded the victory

[Renfrew_Hibby]

The Dons v Gers at Murrayfield was touted on the BBC news channel during a sports round up I saw an hour or so ago.

[seanshow]

The yams recent support for league cup semis is 10k average both games were in Edinburgh @ ER.
The sheepies last three LC semi avg is 13k supporters.

Donkey Preston says both games at Hampden and murrayfield will be sellouts. :hmmm:

[G B Young]

That would make sense since hearts used the place as their home ground very recently. I realise there is a precedent for that but best avoided I would have thought

It would also make more sense for Aberdeen. Shorter journey and better train service from Aberdeen to Edinburgh. Seems like the best option if this really is going to get switched. Still don't see the problem with having the yams play at Hampden on Sunday night tho.

[SChibs]

The yams recent support for league cup semis is 10k average both games were in Edinburgh @ ER.
The sheepies last three LC semi avg is 13k supporters.

Donkey Preston says both games at Hampden and murrayfield will be sellouts. :hmmm:

Preston is the most deluded jambo in the media. That guy hasn't got a clue.

[Cat Stanton]

What's a "winging jumbo"? A plane?

[brianmc]

Mickey Mouse trophy?
Sit in the green end?
Watch the wingers get humped?
*I presume you meant whingers??

As OPs go that is quite possibly the most deluded, Bull something or other embarrassing Shi'ite ever.

I can only imagine the op is either some kind of 'under cover' opposition fan getting his (her's?) internet jollies by posting such nonsense
OR some kind of obnoxious, deluded, ******** element of our support which I've been lucky enough to never actually meet 🤔

[SHODAN]

BBC news just said there is potential to move the first semi to Murrayfield.

So Dons v Gers at Murrayfield
& Hearts v Celtic at Hampden

That would be very funny.

But it still stands to reason: if they want to move the other semi so Hearts don't get home advantage, why is it okay for Celtic and Rangers to ALWAYS have home advantage? :dunno:

I suppose with this arrangement there's LESS teams with home advantage. Aberdeen/Rangers at Murrayfield: Only Celtic have home advantage. Hearts/Celtic at Murrayfield: Rangers and Hearts have home advantage.

[Danderhall Hibs]

Keith Jackson saying that Celtic want it to be drawn out of a hat.

[nonshinyfinish]

I too am sick of these winging wingers.

[CropleyWasGod]

Is a humped winger some kind of camel-albatross mutation?



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[Carheenlea]

How do you know which plane Ann Budge and Craig Levein are on?
The one that’s still whining after it’s landed.

[O'Rourke3]

If Murrayfield is used isn't the fairest game Huns v Sheep? If I was the boy in charge y
I'd thank Hearts for the suggestion then not let them play in Edinburgh.

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[One Day Soon]

Is a humped winger some kind of camel-albatross mutation?



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Would be some sight.

[BOB MARLEYS DUG]

Far too many threads about Hearts man 😂

[CropleyWasGod]

Would be some sight.The airship of the desert?

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[nonshinyfinish]

Keith Jackson saying that Celtic want it to be drawn out of a hat.

That's fine with me as long as every stadium in the country goes into the hat. Ideally they'll end up playing at Bayview and Central Park.

[CropleyWasGod]

What's a "winging jumbo"? A plane?You've never seen the Disney film, obviously [emoji849]

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[One Day Soon]

The airship of the desert?

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A Winged Jumbo airship most likely. Capacity 400,000 and powered by delusion. Rover grille badge on the front.

[CropleyWasGod]

A Winged Jumbo airship most likely. Capacity 400,000 and powered by delusion. Rover grille badge on the front.And full of Dumbos

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[One Day Soon]

And full of Dumbos

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Bravo. And reported.

[JK Rolling]

I now hope Celtic go all out and dump these tramps out of the mickey mouse trophy after they appear to have got their wish after a week of toy throwing by Potter, Budge and co. Might even sit in the Green end and watch the wingers get humped. Just for fun.



Beyond tragic.

[wookie70]

Can we ask for any Aberdeen cup games that are midweek to get moved to Edinburgh or any future Midweek semi finals to be moved. It was a ridiculous situation to be in when fixtures are known in advance and could have been worked around very easily. Aberdeen fans can't get a train to Hampden pretty much every time they go but they don't get any favours. Hearts seem to be given every benefit going despite not always playing by the rules.

[Cat Stanton]

You've never seen the Disney film, obviously [emoji849]

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Ah, of course, don't know what I was thinking. Now this thread finally makes sense:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HHNkDAm-yhM

[majorhibs]

Very many precious idols on this thread, nothing wrong with looking down when your so elevated that ordinary never comes into your view, in the 70s as youngsters it was actually the height of daring to manage to go into oppo end when you didnae have a game, & get away with it, I did it twice, & was way tame compared to some. If you were caught then mind, & Edinburgh’s no that big, wouldnae like to contemplate!

[cabbageandribs1875]

it's blatantly obvious the QF's should be played again

[Col2]

Would be very funny if they don’t come near to selling out 50% of Murrayfield after all the fuss.

[Libby Hibby]

A draw for the venue would be the fairest way.

That way no team can argue against any favouritism to 1 side or the other.

Hearts to Hampden would be hilarious. You know they still won’t be happy with that.

[we are hibs]

Aw diddums. Celtic not happy because the shoes on the other foot for a change.

[SirDavidsNapper]

I really think the Hearts game should stay at Hampden but be moved to a midnight KO so theres less congestion. Fairest way.

[Coco Bryce]

I hope the SRU tell the SPFL to bolt in trying to rent Murrayfield.

The grass will have to be cut around 1" in length for the semi and the Autumn test starts 10 days later in which the grass needs to be around 2"-3" long. It's coming into winter, how are they gonna get it to grow that much in ten days?

[SirDavidsNapper]

Quite ironic the Jambos were singing no Hibs at Hampden at the weekend

[danhibees1875]

Quite ironic the Jambos were singing no Hibs at Hampden at the weekend

:faf:

When was the last time they got to Hampden and we didn't? (So far) Must be a novel experience for them I guess.

[One Day Soon]

Beyond tragic.

Very odd certainly.

[Chic Murray]

These winging fans give me the bird.

[lyonhibs]

What a shan OP on so many levels. The SFA/whichever cretin schedules these things made an absolute howler and Aberdeen/Hearts fans (as well as the general reaction even from fans of other teams) were well within their rights to complain (or "wing" as the OP comedically misspells it).

We'd have done the exact same and these buffoons needed to be told to avoid such a scenario ever happening again.

[SirDavidsNapper]

:faf:

When was the last time they got to Hampden and we didn't? (So far) Must be a novel experience for them I guess.

Asked this question before. I think the last year Hearts got to Hampden and Hibs didn't was 1996 (i think).

[CropleyWasGod]

Asked this question before. I think the last year Hearts got to Hampden and Hibs didn't was 1996 (i think).They played St Mirren in the LC final in 2013.

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[SirDavidsNapper]

They played St Mirren in the LC final in 2013.

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True. Different competitions i know but we played in the 2013 Scottish cup final. In same calendar year i reckon it's 96.

[CropleyWasGod]

We played in the 2013 Scottish cup finalGotcha .

Dani asked when was the last "time" they did it. Yours was a different question.

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[macca70]

Seems like sour grapes from Celtic now,

Surely they are trying to get the best possible outcome, not sure that can be achieved with the randomiser of a draw.

The best possible solution is to have the Celtic v Hearts game at Hampden the following Sunday and reschedule the league game they are due to play that weekend? Maybe that’s too sensible for Doncaster.

[gorgie greens]

If Murrayfield is used isn't the fairest game Huns v Sheep? If I was the boy in charge y
I'd thank Hearts for the suggestion then not let them play in Edinburgh.

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In the interest of fairness Hearts should not play at the venue due to them playing home games there last season and gaining an unfair advantage.

[calumhibee1]

As much of a **** show as the original decision was it surely shouldn’t be changed now, a week later when there’ll be fans have booked travel from other places in the uk/possibly abroad based on the original scheduling?

[Not In The Know]

The police won't allow Rangers, Celtic and jumbo fans on the East-west trains at essentially the same time. So Hearts will stay at HOME in Edinburgh.

[Chic Murray]

As much of a **** show as the original decision was it surely shouldn’t be changed now, a week later when there’ll be fans have booked travel from other places in the uk/possibly abroad based on the original scheduling?

The comedy gold will continue with yet another stupid solution.

My money is on the OF getting a bye to the final to save the other teams having to travel.

[Sas_The_Hibby]

"This whole situation brings the whole of Scottish football into disrepute, it has become a laughing stock."

...says Ian Murray, Labour MP and staunch supporter of the club that at one time spent over 100% of its turnover on wages, wormed its way out of over £20 million of debt, forgot to order seats for its new stand and fielded an unregistered player in the League Cup. :greengrin:greengrin

[Quoted in the Herald]

[danhibees1875]

Cheers for the 1996 answer Sally. :aok:


Gotcha .

Dani asked when was the last "time" they did it. Yours was a different question.

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My poorly worded question - I meant season.

[Since90+2]

Has it been confirmed that their game is now at Murrayfield?

[I'm Spartacus]

I now hope Celtic go all out and dump these tramps out of the mickey mouse trophy after they appear to have got their wish after a week of toy throwing by Potter, Budge and co. Might even sit in the Green end and watch the wingers get humped. Just for fun.


Hmmmm that's a weird one IMO. You mean you didn't want them dumped out at Hampden?

[Tornadoes70]

The yams should not still be in this competition due to their playing an ineligible player in the earlier round that makes all this ever more farcical and incompetent. The yams are in line for a massive pay day due to the footballing authorities failure to apply the normal punishment of expulsion from a tournament as per the usage of an ineligible player on the field of play, ridiculous.

Mon the Cabbage!!!

:flag:

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

This has gone well for the OP! :-)

[tamig]

I too am sick of these winging wingers.

Levein used to get slagged for no playing with any wingers.

[SHODAN]

The only way to shut them up is to beat them.

[SHODAN]

Seems like sour grapes from Celtic now,

Surely they are trying to get the best possible outcome, not sure that can be achieved with the randomiser of a draw.

The best possible solution is to have the Celtic v Hearts game at Hampden the following Sunday and reschedule the league game they are due to play that weekend? Maybe that’s too sensible for Doncaster.

No, they have to be played on that extremely inconvenient weekend!!!!! :grr: :rules:

[I'm Spartacus]

Here's where I am with it. I want a game played at Murrayfield, the more fans that experience how much better Murrayfield and Edinburgh is compared to that Glasgow S-hole then the greater the hatred to our footballing authorities.

Who ever walks away from the Murrayfield game being pumped will still say "Excellent location and really pleasant to get to and from". We've all suffered the disaster of getting to and from Hampden, even in 2016, absolutely euphoric, but getting home for the party was easily the worst part.

[Sylar]

I now hope Celtic go all out and dump these tramps out of the mickey mouse trophy after they appear to have got their wish after a week of toy throwing by Potter, Budge and co. Might even sit in the Green end and watch the wingers get humped. Just for fun.

Of course you will. In fact, I'm quite sure you'll be on your normal supporters bus to make the trip to the game.

Your constant barrage of pro-Celtc posts on this forum are absolutely laughable.

[Carheenlea]

Celtic v Hearts at Ibrox, Rangers v Aberdeen at Celtic Park. Has to be better than tossing coins like a social club dominoes flyer and avoids any “home advantage” by any clubs.

[yonder1875]

Celtic v Hearts at Ibrox, Rangers v Aberdeen at Celtic Park. Has to be better than tossing coins like a social club dominoes flyer and avoids any “home advantage” by any clubs.

Ibrox would be like a home game for Hearts.

[BullsCloseHibs]

I just hope that the grass is cut to a reasonable length for what is a major game in Scotland.

I wouldn't put it past that club to try and get the grass cut (or messed up) to what they want. They are a devious company Hearts FC :agree:

[Bostonhibby]

Ibrox would be like a home game for Hearts.Both clubs reached at least the administration stage and bumped hundreds of innocent creditors out of tens of millions so there's a certain symmetry between the two.

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[I'm Spartacus]

I do find it laughable that there was at one stage the potential for an unbelievably large public order situation on Glasgow's hands, the safety of everybody travelling at risk ... neither Celtic or Rangers have a voice, now it looks like Celtic have to travel 40 minutes to Edinburgh and they now want that done their way!!

BT will want them staggered so you're looking at Hearts Celtic at Murrayfield with a 2pm kick off then Rangers Aberdeen in Glasgow with a 4pm kick off.

What a shambles.

[Bostonhibby]

Celtic v Hearts at Ibrox, Rangers v Aberdeen at Celtic Park. Has to be better than tossing coins like a social club dominoes flyer and avoids any “home advantage” by any clubs.To be honest, the way hearts have been accommodated by the SPFL over the never to be finished one tier stand and making sure they stayed in the league cup surely they could avoid all this embarrassment by just presenting the trophy to the good doctor now?

They could hire the castle view lounge for the presentation so long as the escalator is working and they've finished fitting the toilets. The press will have a good day out covering the event so long as it doesn't rain or snow.

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[G B Young]

SRU now saying Murrayfield may not be an option due to the proximity of Scotland's autumn internationals series, so this farce looks set to rumble on. Did anyone at the SPFL think to check with the SRU before announcing Murrayfield was being considered? And why did they initially seem to think Celtic v Hearts was the obvious choice for Murrayfield? The only club with any serious gripe about the scheduling is Aberdeen so having them play at Murrayfield would make the most sense in terms of journey time and better train timetables.

They should just stick with the original plan. Pain for Aberdeen fans but when is getting to Hampden ever not a pain for them?

[Bostonhibby]

SRU now saying Murrayfield may not be an option due to the proximity of Scotland's autumn internationals series, so this farce looks set to rumble on. Did anyone at the SPFL think to check with the SRU before announcing Murrayfield was being considered? And why did they initially seem to think Celtic v Heart was the obvious choice for Murrayfield? The only club with any serious gripe about the scheduling is Aberdeen so having them play at Murrayfield would make the most sense in terms of journey time and better train timetables.

They should just stick with the original plan. Pain for Aberdeen fans but when is getting to Hampden ever not a pain for them?Always liked the SRU. Maybe they could take over the running of Scottish football?

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[SirDavidsNapper]

SRU now saying Murrayfield may not be an option due to the proximity of Scotland's autumn internationals series, so this farce looks set to rumble on. Did anyone at the SPFL think to check with the SRU before announcing Murrayfield was being considered? And why did they initially seem to think Celtic v Heart was the obvious choice for Murrayfield? The only club with any serious gripe about the scheduling is Aberdeen so having them play at Murrayfield would make the most sense in terms of journey time and better train timetables.

They should just stick with the original plan. Pain for Aberdeen fans but when is getting to Hampden ever not a pain for them?

Very much doubt it

[G B Young]

:faf:

When was the last time they got to Hampden and we didn't? (So far) Must be a novel experience for them I guess.

Indeed. Last time they were there was 2013. Until now they hadn't so much as reached a semi-final since then. By my reckoning Hibs have been in 3 cup finals and five semi-finals during that period. Not bad for a club who spent three seasons in the Championship.

[CropleyWasGod]

Indeed. Last time they were there was 2013. Until now they hadn't so much as reached a semi-final since then. By my reckoning Hibs have been in 3 cup finals and five semi-finals during that period. Not bad for a club who spent three seasons in the Championship.

2014 LC semi at ER. They lost to the nine men of ICT.

[Billy Whizz]

At this rate our home game v Rangers on Sunday 28th, may be back on😄

[Danderhall Hibs]

At this rate our home game v Rangers on Sunday 28th, may be back on😄

As I said last week - the bbc haven’t postponed it yet. They did for the other affected matches.

[Danderhall Hibs]

Anyway all the complaints have been made for these fixtures around travel chaos and unavailability of trains.

I’m sure all those involved in the campaigns would agree that Aberdeen to Murrayfield is the fairest and most logical solution.

If Murrayfield’s available of course.

[Springbank]

Here's where I am with it. I want a game played at Murrayfield, the more fans that experience how much better Murrayfield and Edinburgh is compared to that Glasgow S-hole then the greater the hatred to our footballing authorities.

Who ever walks away from the Murrayfield game being pumped will still say "Excellent location and really pleasant to get to and from". We've all suffered the disaster of getting to and from Hampden, even in 2016, absolutely euphoric, but getting home for the party was easily the worst part.

Murrayfield is terrible for watching football.

Rugby fields are bigger than football pitches, meaning behind the goals is miles from the actual posts, plus there's an enormous running track on one touchline.

In 3 of the 4 stands you are far too far away from the pitch, and it is worse than Hampden in those specific regards.

[marinello59]

Murrayfield is terrible for watching football.

Rugby fields are bigger than football pitches, plus there's an enormous runing track.

In 3 of the 4 stands you are far too far away from the pitch.

I’ve only been to Murrayfield once, for the Barcelona friendly. I expected to leave slaughtering the place as a fitba venue but I found it streets ahead of Hampden in terms of view and facilities.

[yonder1875]

Both clubs reached at least the administration stage and bumped hundreds of innocent creditors out of tens of millions so there's a certain symmetry between the two.

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Yes, this. Amongst other things...

[Lendo]

I now hope Celtic go all out and dump these tramps out of the mickey mouse trophy after they appear to have got their wish after a week of toy throwing by Potter, Budge and co. Might even sit in the Green end and watch the wingers get humped. Just for fun.

:rolleyes:

[essexhibee]

I stupidly paid for flights up with a friend to watch Hibs v Rangers not realizing it might get moved so any date change i would love!:greengrin

[WhileTheChief..]

BT will want them staggered so you're looking at Hearts Celtic at Murrayfield with a 2pm kick off then Rangers Aberdeen in Glasgow with a 4pm kick off.

What a shambles.

What’s wrong with that? Ideal solution I’d have thought.

[tamig]

Murrayfield is terrible for watching football.

Rugby fields are bigger than football pitches, meaning behind the goals is miles from the actual posts, plus there's an enormous running track on one touchline.

In 3 of the 4 stands you are far too far away from the pitch, and it is worse than Hampden in those specific regards.
You think its worse than Hampden so far as the view in 3 of the stands is concerned? I think the distances from behind each goal to the pitch is much less at Murrayfield. The main stand must be near enough the same distance as Hampden. Its not an ideal football venue but it has far more to offer than Hampden imo.

[GreenCastle]

Wonder what will happen with the pitch.

Last season Levein tried to get it same size as Tiny Library but they couldn’t due to where posts go into the ground.

Seemed a long and narrow pitch.

Would be surprised if Murrayfield allow it after the SFA Hampden decision. Though guess money talks.

[Springbank]

You think its worse than Hampden so far as the view in 3 of the stands is concerned? I think the distances from behind each goal to the pitch is much less at Murrayfield. The main stand must be near enough the same distance as Hampden. Its not an ideal football venue but it has far more to offer than Hampden imo.

Yes I do think it is a lot worse.

I was in the "careful what you wish for" camp when it came to Hampden/Murrayfield.

I've also experienced it in a few 6 nations games, a last minute defeat v Italy and a record-breaking win v England.

In either case, the atmosphere at Hampden for Hibs-Rangers 2016 was many many many light years ahead of Murrayfield.

[tamig]

Yes I do think it is a lot worse.

I was in the "careful what you wish for" camp when it came to Hampden/Murrayfield.

I've also experienced it in a few 6 nations games, a last minute defeat v Italy and a record-breaking win v England.

In either case, the atmosphere at Hampden for Hibs-Rangers 2016 was many many many light years ahead of Murrayfield.

I think football crowds vs rugby crowds generate totally different atmospheres though. We can only guess what it might have been like on that historic day.

[Keith_M]

Yes I do think it is a lot worse.

I was in the "careful what you wish for" camp when it came to Hampden/Murrayfield.

I've also experienced it in a few 6 nations games, a last minute defeat v Italy and a record-breaking win v England.

In either case, the atmosphere at Hampden for Hibs-Rangers 2016 was many many many light years ahead of Murrayfield.


Different people, different atmosphere.

[where'stheslope]

Celtic v Hearts at Ibrox, Rangers v Aberdeen at Celtic Park. Has to be better than tossing coins like a social club dominoes flyer and avoids any “home advantage” by any clubs.

The Old Firm Would bite your hand off for this one, that way they get a share of the semi final money plus rent for their grounds????

Has to at least neutral grounds, if it was any other teams in the competition other than the Old Firm, would they get to choose where the play the tie, NO!!!

If it was to be away from Glasgow the SPFL would select the stadium that would suit the size of crowd expected!!!!

[Hibbyradge]

They should just stick with the original plan. Pain for Aberdeen fans but when is getting to Hampden ever not a pain for them?

I imagine it's less of a pain when it's at 3.00pm or a time when there are trains running.

[sorrow sorrow]

The Edinburgh Evening News always favoured hearts over hibs but wow I picked up a copy today,it’s like reading hearts brokeback,obsessed with everything hearts.

[Billy Whizz]

Seemingly Hearts game at Murrayfield on the Sunday, 1.30pm ko

[Dancehibs]

Seemingly Hearts game at Murrayfield on the Sunday, 1.30pm ko

Sensible decision. Let’s hope they get pumped

[Billy Whizz]

Sensible decision. Let’s hope they get pumped

Celtic fans already complaining that Hearts are playing at “home”

[PatHead]

Celtic fans already complaining that Hearts are playing at “home”

Fair comment. It was their home last season.

[Hibby70]

Fair comment. It was their home last season.

Hampden was Celtics home a couple of decades ago so that evens that out

[Billy Whizz]

Fair comment. It was their home last season.

May as well just give them the trophy, should have out in the group stages, and now getting a home tie in the semi

[staunchhibby]

An about turn.Match to be played at murrayfield.

[Onion]

An about turn.Match to be played at murrayfield.

Which one ?

[macca70]

Hearts v Celtic 1.30pm at Murrayfield
Rangers v Aberdeen 4.30pm at Hampden

[crash]

Hearts v Celtic 1.30pm at Murrayfield
Rangers v Aberdeen 4.30pm at Hampden

Gutted for their Loyal fans, first time in many years they thought they were going to Hampden, only to have it cruelly snatched away by those incompetent administrators.
Oh well, the wait will have to continue for them.

[kaimendhibs]

Be interested to see how many of the 400,000 turn up. Greetin faced gits got what they wanted but still no Hampden trip

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[SirDavidsNapper]

No Hearts at Hampden

[SideBurns]

Celtic are saying Hearts have an unfair advantage as they played at Murrayfield last season - the Jambos have changed almost their whole squad twice since then!!

[ekhibee]

May as well just give them the trophy, should have out in the group stages, and now getting a home tie in the semi
This.

[Smartie]

Celtic are saying Hearts have an unfair advantage as they played at Murrayfield last season - the Jambos have changed almost their whole squad twice since then!!

I can see where they are coming from. Playing on a field in the west of Edinburgh that never, ever has football played on it will be exactly like being at home for the Hertz.

[brianmc]

Celtic are saying Hearts have an unfair advantage as they played at Murrayfield last season - the Jambos have changed almost their whole squad twice since then!!

Sounds like Brenda is scared...

He must've forgotten that Celtic used Murrayfield as their home when the commonwealth games were being held in Glasgow.

He also doesn't seem to understand that a 'neutral' stadium that has a "Celtic end" isnae really neutral!

To further add to the stupidity of his comments of ask this: How many times have Celtic played at Hampden in the last, say, five years v how many times hertz have been there??

Muppet.

*I obviously still hope the maroon balloons get pumped.

[Nakedmanoncrack]

Night time at Hampden would have been far better.

[Famous Fiver]

Will the usual Murrayfield hospitality arrangements be in place and fans will be able to buy drink in the ground and take it to their seats?

Pass the popcorn!!!

[Billy Whizz]

Aberdeen v the rangers would have far better at Murrafield, easier transport to Edinburgh for Dons supporters than to Glasgow

[SirDavidsNapper]

Celtic are saying Hearts have an unfair advantage as they played at Murrayfield last season - the Jambos have changed almost their whole squad twice since then!!

Will only make Celtic raise their game...which is pleasing

[Kojock]

Celtic are saying Hearts have an unfair advantage as they played at Murrayfield last season - the Jambos have changed almost their whole squad twice since then!!

Didn’t hear Septic complain about “advantage” when they played a full season at Hampden while darkheid was being rebuilt.

[Ozyhibby]

Well done the yams for sticking up for their fans. Wonder if we would have done the same or just ended up playing in Glasgow on a Sunday night?


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[hibby rae]

Celtic fans already complaining that Hearts are playing at “home”

Playing devil's advocate, it's a bit rich from them considering Hampden has a 'Celtic' end. Which in the past has meant we've been shifted to the 'Rangers' end.

[Joe6-2]

The Edinburgh Evening News always favoured hearts over hibs but wow I picked up a copy today,it’s like reading hearts brokeback,obsessed with everything hearts.

You did what? What possessed you?

[Albanian Hibs]

Seemingly Hearts game at Murrayfield on the Sunday, 1.30pm ko

What a joke

[Blaster]

Well done the yams for sticking up for their fans. Wonder if we would have done the same or just ended up playing in Glasgow on a Sunday night?


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Why the need to have a pop at our club??

[Ozyhibby]

Why the need to have a pop at our club??

Did I?


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[Libby Hibby]

Why the need to have a pop at our club??

Coz some folk canny help themselves.

[Ozyhibby]

Coz some folk canny help themselves.

What do you think we would have done though?


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[JK Rolling]

Well done the yams for sticking up for their fans. Wonder if we would have done the same or just ended up playing in Glasgow on a Sunday night?


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Good point.

I don't get all this 'I'd rather be going to Hampden' chat, not me, Murrayfield all day every day. Anything to change Celtics very regular routine.

[RoxburghHibs]

The title had me wondering what competition we were in a semi final!

[wookie70]

Well done the yams for sticking up for their fans. Wonder if we would have done the same or just ended up playing in Glasgow on a Sunday night?


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It wouldn't have been as massive an issue to us imo and we are nowhere near as brass necked and opportunist as our neighbours. Hearts have done well for their fans and the club but yet again the Scottish Footballing Authorities have shown them self up again both in terms of planning and they way they have resolved the issue.

[Ozyhibby]

It wouldn't have been as massive an issue to us imo and we are nowhere near as brass necked and opportunist as our neighbours. Hearts have done well for their fans and the club but yet again the Scottish Footballing Authorities have shown them self up again both in terms of planning and they way they have resolved the issue.

It would have been an issue for my season ticket holding son when his mum said no chance was he going to night game in Glasgow on a school night.


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[B.H.F.C]

It wouldn't have been as massive an issue to us imo and we are nowhere near as brass necked and opportunist as our neighbours. Hearts have done well for their fans and the club but yet again the Scottish Footballing Authorities have shown them self up again both in terms of planning and they way they have resolved the issue.

I didn’t even think Hearts made that much noise about it. Levein said his bit and, Lennon being Lennon, I’m pretty sure he would have done the same if he wasn’t happy about it. Obviously Budge had a few words but I think the police and MSPs getting involved, along with the general media outcry, made it inevitable it would be changed.

We didn’t exactly turn up in numbers for our semi last year so Hibs might not have seen it as such a big issue, we’ll never know.

[SHODAN]

Do we really need another thread for this?

[G B Young]

Well done the yams for sticking up for their fans. Wonder if we would have done the same or just ended up playing in Glasgow on a Sunday night?

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It sometimes seems to me that there are bigger players behind the scenes in Scotland who pull a few strings when it comes to the yams and who they can turn to in times of difficulty. And I'm not just talking about the 'mystery benefactors' who seem to be funding the overspend on the new stand.

Aberdeen were the first to express their outrage at what has been a long line of awkward Hampden kick-offs for their team yet it was only when Budge and Potter started moaning that a rethink was considered.

I've wondered, for example:


How and why UKIO Bankas were persuaded to relinquish their security over Tynecastle so cheaply at the height of the CVA back in 2014. There was far more money to be made by developing the site.
Why a series of temporary safety certificates for the new stand were so readily rubber-stamped by the council before the police stepped in to question its safety.
And talking of the police...it was on their advice that Doncaster gave the go-ahead for both semi-finals at Hampden on the same day. They stated confidently that they could handle it. Why the U-turn? Has there been pressure from above?
And why is the Celtic v Hearts game the one that seems to have been deemed best for Murrayfield? Why not Rangers v Aberdeen? A trip to Edinburgh is significantly more fan-friendly for the sheep than Glasgow.
As I've mentioned on another thread, it's easy to dismiss accusations of 'establishment' favouritism to the yams as paranoia, but anyone on here remembers the Lochend Butterfly fiasco (a proposal which could have all but wiped out our debts) will tell you that Hibs were well and truly shafted by council bias.

[Libby Hibby]

What do you think we would have done though?


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In a purely hypothetical world, I’m sure Hibs would’ve fought for the best situation for Hibs.

[Ozyhibby]

In a purely hypothetical world, I’m sure Hibs would’ve fought for the best situation for Hibs.

I think there are not many who think the same way as you.
Personally I think we would have just accepted the situation and taken about 10k (tops) to the game.
The yams have just shown that you don’t have to just accept decisions from Glasgow just because that’s the way it has always been.
Instead of having about 10k fans they will likely have double that now. It was worth kicking up a fuss.


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[Scotty Leither]

I think there are not many who think the same way as you.
Personally I think we would have just accepted the situation and taken about 10k (tops) to the game.
The yams have just shown that you don’t have to just accept decisions from Glasgow just because that’s the way it has always been.
Instead of having about 10k fans they will likely have double that now. It was worth kicking up a fuss.


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Personally I think a bigger stink should've been kicked up by the other teams in their group when they fielded an ineligible player.

Another unusually lenient decision that did just enough to punish them without stopping them actually qualifying. (Or indeed, getting summarily booted out the tournament, for which there was a precedent.)

It seems like fur coat and nae knickers fc have too long a reach in certain spheres of our game, and closer to home with our illustrious cooncil as well, and i'd like to see our own club comment on it once in a while.

[stantonhibby]

I think there are not many who think the same way as you.
Personally I think we would have just accepted the situation and taken about 10k (tops) to the game.
The yams have just shown that you don’t have to just accept decisions from Glasgow just because that’s the way it has always been.
Instead of having about 10k fans they will likely have double that now. It was worth kicking up a fuss.


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Not sure why you tried to deny having a pop at the club in a previous post when it was pretty obvious that's what you were doing. Having a go at them for something they may/may not have actually done is a new one mind, even for you.

[Turkish Green]

I think there are not many who think the same way as you.
Personally I think we would have just accepted the situation and taken about 10k (tops) to the game.
The yams have just shown that you don’t have to just accept decisions from Glasgow just because that’s the way it has always been.
Instead of having about 10k fans they will likely have double that now. It was worth kicking up a fuss.


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instead of bemoaning the yams, because that is what we do, they (and Aberdeen) should be applauded on this ocassion for standing up to the SPFL and Doncaster. I worry sometimes that if our club went into administration would our supporters follow the example of the yams or the huns. I hope the former.

As far as the Betfred Cup is concerned, I have no interest in who reaches the final nor who wins it.

[Turkish Green]

In a purely hypothetical world, I’m sure Hibs would’ve fought for the best situation for Hibs.

Who? Dempster or Petrie. In Leeann I trust but Petrie would have followed the party line.

[JK Rolling]

It sometimes seems to me that there are bigger players behind the scenes in Scotland who pull a few strings when it comes to the yams and who they can turn to in times of difficulty. And I'm not just talking about the 'mystery benefactors' who seem to be funding the overspend on the new stand.

Aberdeen were the first to express their outrage at what has been a long line of awkward Hampden kick-offs for their team yet it was only when Budge and Potter started moaning that a rethink was considered.

I've wondered, for example:


How and why UKIO Bankas were persuaded to relinquish their security over Tynecastle so cheaply at the height of the CVA back in 2014. There was far more money to be made by developing the site.
Why a series of temporary safety certificates for the new stand were so readily rubber-stamped by the council before the police stepped in to question its safety.
And talking of the police...it was on their advice that Doncaster gave the go-ahead for both semi-finals at Hampden on the same day. They stated confidently that they could handle it. Why the U-turn? Has there been pressure from above?
And why is the Celtic v Hearts game the one that seems to have been deemed best for Murrayfield? Why not Rangers v Aberdeen? A trip to Edinburgh is significantly more fan-friendly for the sheep than Glasgow.
As I've mentioned on another thread, it's easy to dismiss accusations of 'establishment' favouritism to the yams as paranoia, but anyone on here remembers the Lochend Butterfly fiasco (a proposal which could have all but wiped out our debts) will tell you that Hibs were well and truly shafted by council bias.




You might want to check this site out as I think you missed a few on your list.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_conspiracy_theories

[Ozyhibby]

Not sure why you tried to deny having a pop at the club in a previous post when it was pretty obvious that's what you were doing. Having a go at them for something they may/may not have actually done is a new one mind, even for you.

But do you think Hibs would have stuck up for our fans the way the yams have done for theirs? Still hasn’t been anyone who thinks we would have. That’s pretty bad don’t you think?


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[Springbank]

instead of bemoaning the yams, because that is what we do, they (and Aberdeen) should be applauded on this ocassion for standing up to the SPFL and Doncaster. I worry sometimes that if our club went into administration would our supporters follow the example of the yams or the huns. I hope the former.

As far as the Betfred Cup is concerned, I have no interest in who reaches the final nor who wins it.

Exhibit A - Hands Off Hibs 1990.

no more questions required m'lud

[IGRIGI]

I worry sometimes that if our club went into administration would our supporters follow the example of the yams or the huns. I hope the former.

After Hands Off Hibs I'm lost for words as to how a Hibs fan could come out with such pish.

[SirDavidsNapper]

instead of bemoaning the yams, because that is what we do, they (and Aberdeen) should be applauded on this ocassion for standing up to the SPFL and Doncaster. I worry sometimes that if our club went into administration would our supporters follow the example of the yams or the huns. I hope the former.

As far as the Betfred Cup is concerned, I have no interest in who reaches the final nor who wins it.

Deary me. Thank goodness we're winning on the park or this place would be an utter car crash

[broondog]

It sometimes seems to me that there are bigger players behind the scenes in Scotland who pull a few strings when it comes to the yams and who they can turn to in times of difficulty. And I'm not just talking about the 'mystery benefactors' who seem to be funding the overspend on the new stand.

Aberdeen were the first to express their outrage at what has been a long line of awkward Hampden kick-offs for their team yet it was only when Budge and Potter started moaning that a rethink was considered.

I've wondered, for example:


How and why UKIO Bankas were persuaded to relinquish their security over Tynecastle so cheaply at the height of the CVA back in 2014. There was far more money to be made by developing the site.
Why a series of temporary safety certificates for the new stand were so readily rubber-stamped by the council before the police stepped in to question its safety.
And talking of the police...it was on their advice that Doncaster gave the go-ahead for both semi-finals at Hampden on the same day. They stated confidently that they could handle it. Why the U-turn? Has there been pressure from above?
And why is the Celtic v Hearts game the one that seems to have been deemed best for Murrayfield? Why not Rangers v Aberdeen? A trip to Edinburgh is significantly more fan-friendly for the sheep than Glasgow.
As I've mentioned on another thread, it's easy to dismiss accusations of 'establishment' favouritism to the yams as paranoia, but anyone on here remembers the Lochend Butterfly fiasco (a proposal which could have all but wiped out our debts) will tell you that Hibs were well and truly shafted by council bias.



Yes, all of that is 100% correct and I completely agree.am surprised the Yam sympathisers on here haven´t told you to calm down or that you are overreacting.I suspect most of those are Yams anyway or spineless Hibs fans who seem to think they should be respected.makes me feel sick.

Hate to say I told you so to all of those on here that accused me of overreacting before about this but I told you so, you know who you are.the game has been moved to Murrayfield which is effectively a home tie for hearts ONCE AGAIN handing them an advantage they shouldn´t have.if I was a Celtic fan I would simply refuse to play the game until the authorities change their mind. why the **** was it the Yam game that automatically moved anyway?nobody seems to be asking that.

Time and time again they get their way and there is something going on behind the scenes. not really sure how much more evidence people need before they wake up and see what´s going on.I have already started preparing a campaign to expose what´s happening. hopefully the rest of you will join me and put pressure on the authorities.

[G B Young]

I think there are not many who think the same way as you.
Personally I think we would have just accepted the situation and taken about 10k (tops) to the game.
The yams have just shown that you don’t have to just accept decisions from Glasgow just because that’s the way it has always been.
Instead of having about 10k fans they will likely have double that now. It was worth kicking up a fuss.


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Two things here:

Firstly, I find it hard to see what you're basing this hypothetical assumption on. What makes you think we'd have reacted any differently to Hearts or Aberdeen?IMHO (and in particular since Dempster's arrival, liaison between the club and fans has been first class). Last year Hibs made it very clear they wanted a 50/50 split of the tickets for our LC semi-final against Celtic, which seems to me they were 'putting the fans first'. If they'd accepted, say, a 15,000 allocation the fans would have accused them of rolling over to the SPFL and Celtic. Yet we ended up with circa 10,000 unsold and club took a lot of flak for it. What more could they have done there?

Secondly, this a LC semi-final we're talking about FFS, not even a final. For many years these games were played on a midweek 'school' night and not a peep was raised about the 'kids'. What's so different about having to travel to Hampden on a Sunday night? The decision to move the games to a weekend slot had nothing to do with the fans. It was entirely down to gaining a better TV deal. As a result we've ended up with an awkward, disruptive and unnecessary weekend in the fixture calendar and thanks to the shambolic handling of the fixtures we're now set to have an annual whinge-fest from whichever club regards their scheduling as unfair.

[GreenNWhiteArmy]

Can't be many nations better than us scots for whinning.

We've been sent up to Aberdeen or over to killie on Friday night's/early weekend kick offs. Almost every away game for the OF is an early kick off but clubs just got on with it.

Hearts had circa 10k at their 2 most recent league cup semi finals (both of which were in Edinburgh) and when the **** do Aberdeen ever sell out a ticket allocation?

I've been to midweek games as a school kid to see Hibs and Scotland in Glasgow or Greenock or Kilmarnock. Wasn't allowed to go to England game in 99 due to expected trouble. Plymouth fans i read, made a 10 hour tripon Tues to see their club ffs

The fact that everyone is saying there will be mayhem in the streets of Glasgow highlight why we'll never be allowed to drink in the stadium. 2016 final aside, how many arrests/fights have broke out at major semi or finals? Appreciate 4 clubs will be in close proximity on the same day but **** me grow up it's not the first time teams that don't like each other play games close by. MOST fans are going through in cars or busses to watch their team then head home.

Fair play to the clubs though, they've managed to get what is clearly a more favourable situation for their clubs but i personally didn't see the major issue other than clubs being inconvenienced with travel

[SirDavidsNapper]

The only reason i have an interest in this competition now is that i want neither Hearts or Rangers to win it. An Aberdeen v Celtic final will mean i wouldn't have to give a toss anymore. Hearts could play this on the moon for all i care as long as they get beat and their fans have a pish time. Irks me slightly that they'll get a larger chunk of the gate receipts now that the game is on their doorstep.

[Since90+2]

I actually think this whole fiasco will count against Hearts. Celtic seem to be play better when it's a high intensity high stakes game (see Old firm game) and it's the games they struggle to get motivated for that they slip up in. Their fans and the players will be right up for this now and I think they will beat Hearts with a couple to spare.

[SirDavidsNapper]

It sometimes seems to me that there are bigger players behind the scenes in Scotland who pull a few strings when it comes to the yams and who they can turn to in times of difficulty. And I'm not just talking about the 'mystery benefactors' who seem to be funding the overspend on the new stand.

Aberdeen were the first to express their outrage at what has been a long line of awkward Hampden kick-offs for their team yet it was only when Budge and Potter started moaning that a rethink was considered.

I've wondered, for example:


How and why UKIO Bankas were persuaded to relinquish their security over Tynecastle so cheaply at the height of the CVA back in 2014. There was far more money to be made by developing the site.
Why a series of temporary safety certificates for the new stand were so readily rubber-stamped by the council before the police stepped in to question its safety.
And talking of the police...it was on their advice that Doncaster gave the go-ahead for both semi-finals at Hampden on the same day. They stated confidently that they could handle it. Why the U-turn? Has there been pressure from above?
And why is the Celtic v Hearts game the one that seems to have been deemed best for Murrayfield? Why not Rangers v Aberdeen? A trip to Edinburgh is significantly more fan-friendly for the sheep than Glasgow.
As I've mentioned on another thread, it's easy to dismiss accusations of 'establishment' favouritism to the yams as paranoia, but anyone on here remembers the Lochend Butterfly fiasco (a proposal which could have all but wiped out our debts) will tell you that Hibs were well and truly shafted by council bias.



And how they were awarded 1 point for fielding an ineligible player in this very competition

[PatHead]

But do you think Hibs would have stuck up for our fans the way the yams have done for theirs? Still hasn’t been anyone who thinks we would have. That’s pretty bad don’t you think?


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I think we would have.

What about cutting Sevco’s allocation both last season and in the playoffs?

[SirDavidsNapper]

I think we would have.

What about cutting Sevco’s allocation both last season and in the playoffs?

Correct. And telling Celtic and Rangers where to go over John McGinn and Scott Allan. Our club are anything but pushovers

[JK Rolling]

Correct. And telling Celtic and Rangers where to go over John McGinn and Scott Allan. Our club are anything but pushovers

Spot on.

[G B Young]

Can't be many nations better than us scots for whinning.

We've been sent up to Aberdeen or over to killie on Friday night's/early weekend kick offs. Almost every away game for the OF is an early kick off but clubs just got on with it.

Hearts had circa 10k at their 2 most recent league cup semi finals (both of which were in Edinburgh) and when the **** do Aberdeen ever sell out a ticket allocation?

I've been to midweek games as a school kid to see Hibs and Scotland in Glasgow or Greenock or Kilmarnock. Wasn't allowed to go to England game in 99 due to expected trouble. Plymouth fans i read, made a 10 hour tripon Tues to see their club ffs

The fact that everyone is saying there will be mayhem in the streets of Glasgow highlight why we'll never be allowed to drink in the stadium. 2016 final aside, how many arrests/fights have broke out at major semi or finals? Appreciate 4 clubs will be in close proximity on the same day but **** me grow up it's not the first time teams that don't like each other play games close by. MOST fans are going through in cars or busses to watch their team then head home.

Fair play to the clubs though, they've managed to get what is clearly a more favourable situation for their clubs but i personally didn't see the major issue other than clubs being inconvenienced with travel

And they failed to sell out their allocation for the 2013 final.

[SirDavidsNapper]

And they failed to sell out their allocation for the 2013 final.

It's a wee cup they don't care about. Hearts are all about the big cup remember

[JK Rolling]

Hampden was Celtics home a couple of decades ago so that evens that out


This.


Season 94/95 Celtic rented Hampden whilst Parkhead was renovated. Scottish Cup Semi's and Final played there - Eventual winners - Celtic.

Their persecution complex knows no bounds.

Celtic F.C - Always Offended, Never Ashamed.

[RoxburghHibs]

And they failed to sell out their allocation for the 2013 final.

...they also failed to sell all their tickets for the 2014 LC semi-final in their own city.


Total attendance: 12,762

[PatHead]

...they also failed to sell all their tickets for the 2014 LC semi-final in their own city.


Total attendance: 12,762

Sure the kick off was before the first train got in from Inverness. Don’t remember Hearts sticking up for Inverness.

[Geo_1875]

Who? Dempster or Petrie. In Leeann I trust but Petrie would have followed the party line.

I'll ask Rod at the AGM why he wouldn't have stood up for us not playing at Hampden for a game we didn't qualify for. Absolutely disgusting behaviour and further proof that he is not the man for the job. Petrie must go.

[cleanyman]

So jealous. Wish it was us.

Baws.

[Billy Whizz]

So jealous. Wish it was us.

Baws.

Would just have been our luck to play Rangers at Hampden if we’d knocked Dons out, and hearts would have played at Murrayfield

[RoxburghHibs]

Sure the kick off was before the first train got in from Inverness. Don’t remember Hearts sticking up for Inverness.

Exactly!

Also shouldn't Inverness have qualified from their group this year and not Hearts? You'd think they would be keeping quiet as they got off massively earlier in the competition when they were helped out by the same authorities when strangely allowed to keep one point (when they fielded an eligible player)and so qualifying from their group instead of Inverness.

[jacomo]

After Hands Off Hibs I'm lost for words as to how a Hibs fan could come out with such pish.


You could also mention Stand Up And Be Counted, against the move to Straiton.

Or the protests following relegation in 2014.

Hibs fans are well capable of fighting for our club and making our voice heard.

[PatHead]

Exactly!

Also shouldn't Inverness have qualified from their group this year and not Hearts? You'd think they would be keeping quiet as they got off massively earlier in the competition when they were helped out by the same authorities when strangely allowed to keep one point (when they fielded an eligible player)and so qualifying from their group instead of Inverness.

Just thinking, did they not field Wilson in that game when he should have been suspended as he was sent off playing for Rangers?

[Moulin Yarns]

And how they were awarded 1 point for fielding an ineligible player in this very competition

I think you will find they were deducted 2 points as they won the game.

[flash]

Yes, all of that is 100% correct and I completely agree.am surprised the Yam sympathisers on here haven´t told you to calm down or that you are overreacting.I suspect most of those are Yams anyway or spineless Hibs fans who seem to think they should be respected.makes me feel sick.

Hate to say I told you so to all of those on here that accused me of overreacting before about this but I told you so, you know who you are.the game has been moved to Murrayfield which is effectively a home tie for hearts ONCE AGAIN handing them an advantage they shouldn´t have.if I was a Celtic fan I would simply refuse to play the game until the authorities change their mind. why the **** was it the Yam game that automatically moved anyway?nobody seems to be asking that.

Time and time again they get their way and there is something going on behind the scenes. not really sure how much more evidence people need before they wake up and see what´s going on.I have already started preparing a campaign to expose what´s happening. hopefully the rest of you will join me and put pressure on the authorities.

I would love to join you but i am washing my hair.

[SirDavidsNapper]

I think you will find they were deducted 2 points as they won the game.

They should have been deducted 3 points and 3-0 win should have been awarded to Cove. They gained a point in my opinion.

[RoxburghHibs]

Just thinking, did they not field Wilson in that game when he should have been suspended as he was sent off playing for Rangers?

You could be right. They definitely got away with playing him in a big semi-final when he should have been serving a one match suspension - just don't recall which one it was.

[Keith_M]

I realise this won't be popular, but I think the Hearts v Celtc game at Murrayfied will have a really good attendance.


I can imagine 50k plus, due to the novelty of the location and the lack of any travel for Edinburgh based Fans.

[Billy Whizz]

I realise this won't be popular, but I think the Hearts v Celtc game at Murrayfied will have a really good attendance.


I can imagine 50k plus, due to the novelty of the location and the lack of any travel for Edinburgh based Fans.

It will unfortunately, but the increased gate is needed to pay Murrayfield

[bigwheel]

I realise this won't be popular, but I think the Hearts v Celtc game at Murrayfied will have a really good attendance.


I can imagine 50k plus, due to the novelty of the location and the lack of any travel for Edinburgh based Fans.


i agree with that - could be over 60K if both sets of fans turn up in force...should be a good event..Hope Hearts get humped :-) But actually, I fancy them to get through..

[where'stheslope]

Heard that one of Celtic's complaints, is that Rangers getting the Hampden gig gives Rangers an advantage?

So if Celtic got the Hampden gig, would they not get the same advantage?

Maybe its time to take all semi finals and finals involving Celtic or Rangers out of Glasgow as they have an advantage?

Although I must say giving Hearts the advantage is probably why they are not happy.

Celtic have played at Murrayfield in European Ties when their stadium was being used for the Commonwealth Games.

[Phil MaGlass]

Its about f,n time a game of this size and involving one of the ugly sisters was moved outside Glasgow, bugger Glasgow they have had an advantage over us all for decades now were up in arms cos hertz huv an advantage, ffs, good on them, ah really dinnae gie a rats erse that they have an advantage. The shoes oan the ither fit and the weedgies dinnae like it, massive middle finger tae thum

[heretoday]

The Old Firm always have an advantage at Hampden. It's like a second home for them.
Good decision to move to Murrayfield.

[JK Rolling]

Yes, all of that is 100% correct and I completely agree.am surprised the Yam sympathisers on here haven´t told you to calm down or that you are overreacting.I suspect most of those are Yams anyway or spineless Hibs fans who seem to think they should be respected.makes me feel sick.

Hate to say I told you so to all of those on here that accused me of overreacting before about this but I told you so, you know who you are.the game has been moved to Murrayfield which is effectively a home tie for hearts ONCE AGAIN handing them an advantage they shouldn´t have.if I was a Celtic fan I would simply refuse to play the game until the authorities change their mind. why the **** was it the Yam game that automatically moved anyway?nobody seems to be asking that.

Time and time again they get their way and there is something going on behind the scenes. not really sure how much more evidence people need before they wake up and see what´s going on.I have already started preparing a campaign to expose what´s happening. hopefully the rest of you will join me and put pressure on the authorities.


What does your campaign consist of? I'd be interested to hear what sort of things you aim to do and what you hope to achieve.

[Tornadoes70]

The Old Firm always have an advantage at Hampden. It's like a second home for them.
Good decision to move to Murrayfield.

For the Yams it is.

Anyhow its irrelevant really as we all know the Yams should have been horsed out of this when it became known they had placed an ineligible player onto the field of play. A big pay day for them that's been handed to them on a plate as a gift from the footballing authorities. If they go on to win the thing the baw is well and truly burst as to anybody ever again saying its a level playing field.


Mon the Cabbage!!!

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Heard that one of Celtic's complaints, is that Rangers getting the Hampden gig gives Rangers an advantage?

So if Celtic got the Hampden gig, would they not get the same advantage?

Maybe its time to take all semi finals and finals involving Celtic or Rangers out of Glasgow as they have an advantage?

Although I must say giving Hearts the advantage is probably why they are not happy.

Celtic have played at Murrayfield in European Ties when their stadium was being used for the Commonwealth Games.
I suppose that is Celtic's point about a ballot - in which case it would've been down to the luck of the draw which game was at Murrayfield.

Although, why they'd be worrying about the Huns at this stage is beyond me. And it would have been ludicrous to have Huns v Dons in Edinburgh, while on the same day making the Jambos travel to Glasgow. My opinion remains the same - Celtic should stop whingeing and get on with the job of knocking Hearts out at what is a neutral venue, regardless of what they say.

[Tornadoes70]

I suppose that is Celtic's point about a ballot - in which case it would've been down to the luck of the draw which game was at Murrayfield.

Although, why they'd be worrying about the Huns at this stage is beyond me. And it would have been ludicrous to have Huns v Dons in Edinburgh, while on the same day making the Jambos travel to Glasgow. My opinion remains the same - Celtic should stop whingeing and get on with the job of knocking Hearts out at what is a neutral venue, regardless of what they say.

Wonder if you'd be saying the same if Hibernian had been ordered to play Rangers at Hampden while the Yams had been allocated Murrayfield against Celtic in absence of a ballot?

Celtic have a right to complain surely?

Mon the Cabbage!!!

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