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yonder1875
13-08-2018, 01:47 PM
Having a debate with a mate over who is/was ‘better’ for Hibs.

Two speed merchants who take on the full back with the slightest invitation and both have chipped in with important goals and assists for Hibs in their time at the club. Obviously, Boyle doesn’t have a standout moment like Ivan’s hat trick at Ibrox but for me I think Boyle has been a big factor in a better Hibs team over the past 2 years.

Just a friendly debate, but I’d be interested to hear peoples views.

Juice Terry
13-08-2018, 01:50 PM
As much as I loved Ivan, it's got to be Boyler for me.
He has improved so much over the past year, almost a first pick for Lennon.
As a player he is just getting better and better.

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hibsmad
13-08-2018, 01:51 PM
I loved Sproule and think that out of the two, he was faster.

However I think Boyle is the better player. For me, his level of consistency puts him head and shoulders above Sproule.

eezyrider
13-08-2018, 02:02 PM
Ivan was way faster than Boyle, however Boyle is the better all round football player.

EZ

Barman Stanton
13-08-2018, 02:02 PM
I think Boyle is a better player, but Sproule was possibly more affective. He was just so quick he absolutely terrorised defenders. Boyle getting better all the time though.

Deansy
13-08-2018, 02:11 PM
Ivan was great - that hat-trick plus you could see he loved playing for us. Boyle, I have to admit I wasn't too keen on when he first arrived, I thought he was a bit of a 'Headless-chicken' - but the near 100% improvement in his play has me opting for him over Ivan !. That improvement, for me, showed his determination/attitude to do well playing for Hibs and in this day and age, is a rarity in modern-day footballers !

Dalianwanda
13-08-2018, 02:12 PM
Loved Ivan but that’s partly due to the fact you weren’t sure what was coming next. Boyle for me, his consistent improvement is great to see...We have a gem.

Fife-Hibee
13-08-2018, 02:19 PM
Loved Ivan too’ but Martin Boyle has been brilliant in the last year. If he keeps on improving we’ll end up toiling to keep a hold of him!

Allant1981
13-08-2018, 02:41 PM
boyle by a long way now, gets better and better each week

WeeRussell
13-08-2018, 02:42 PM
Would I take Ivan back at his rapid best for us now, in place of Boyle in our current team?

After much deliberation, I refuse to answer the question :greengrin

DunblaneHibby
13-08-2018, 02:48 PM
Loved Ivan too’ but Martin Boyle has been brilliant in the last year. If he keeps on improving we’ll end up toiling to keep a hold of him!

Have to agree with this. I just think that martin is the better footballer and is improving all the time.

Baw187
13-08-2018, 02:48 PM
Boyle by a country mile.

They were maybe on a par when Boyle first joined us but he’s clearly an intelligent guy and has taken on board the evidently brilliant coaching that Lennon and the team have given him. He’s improved his game far beyond anything Sproule was capable of.

SirDavidsNapper
13-08-2018, 02:48 PM
Boyle hands down.

yonder1875
13-08-2018, 02:53 PM
Would I take Ivan back at his rapid best for us now, in place of Boyle in our current team?

After much deliberation, I refuse to answer the question :greengrin

I wouldn't take Ivan back over Boyler for the fact that Boyle brings more to the table for me in the sense that he can play a variety of positions effectively (CF, RW, RWB).

Love the pair of them, though!

Shrekko
13-08-2018, 02:54 PM
Boyle must be one of the best value signings ever made and for me edges it over Ivan, who at times was under-rated as a footballer as well. Both really good Hibs players.

Quite surprised there hasn’t been more interest in Boyle from England - reckon he’d do well down there but glad we’ve kept him👍

BegbieHSC
13-08-2018, 02:54 PM
Lenny has turned Boyle into a player worthy of a Scotland call-up. Boyle by a distance.

Just look at the market value of Boyle on Transfermarkt. https://www.transfermarkt.com/martin-boyle/marktwertverlauf/spieler/140554

Since Lenny joined, Boyle has went up £500k in value, to £750k according to them.

jakedance
13-08-2018, 03:03 PM
I’ll go against the majority a bit here and say Ivan. At his peak he’d turn games and get you up out your seat in a way Boyle doesn’t. Ivan was faster too. Boyle has a long way to go to equal Ivan’s status.

None of this is a criticism of Boyle by the way. They were both inspired signings.

Stevie Reid
13-08-2018, 03:06 PM
Boyle, definitely - as much as I loved Ivan.

Ivan was a good finisher and Boyle is perceived not to be, but at 25 he's already scored 25 goals more than Ivan managed in his whole career. 36 of Boyle's goals were as a forward for Montrose though.

Stevie Reid
13-08-2018, 03:08 PM
I’ll go against the majority a bit here and say Ivan. At his peak he’d turn games and get you up out your seat in a way Boyle doesn’t. Ivan was faster too. Boyle has a long way to go to equal Ivan’s status.

None of this is a criticism of Boyle by the way. They were both inspired signings.

As great as that hat trick at Ibrox was, Boyle is a Scottish Cup winner with us. More of a legend than Ivan, IMO.

Onion
13-08-2018, 03:09 PM
Ivan for THAT hat-trick .... and he bleeds green.

SingaporeHibs
13-08-2018, 03:10 PM
Boyle overall and the great thing is he is still learning and getting better. He has improved significantly since his arrival and Long may that continue

Ginger Gehagan
13-08-2018, 03:14 PM
Think Ivan was quicker over the first 10 yards but I'd back Boyler to beat him over a longer distance, and he's a much better all round player. Loved Ivan to bits but some of his attempted left foot passes were comical, and the less said about his heading the better!!

we are hibs
13-08-2018, 03:41 PM
Sproule was electric to watch in full flow and got me off my seat more often and was probably the more direct of the two. I reckon Boyle thinks about what he's doing before either coming inside or racing down the line. I wouldn't trust either 1 on 1 with a keeper. Boyle is the better player but I would go for sproule was more exciting

Paloschi
13-08-2018, 03:42 PM
Love Boyle but Ivan for me.

LaMotta
13-08-2018, 03:42 PM
It's like choosing which one of your offspring you prefer - impossible :greengrin

BOB MARLEYS DUG
13-08-2018, 03:44 PM
https://twitter.com/gilts_/status/1028686489184608256?s=21


Look at that pace... wow!

Inconsequential
13-08-2018, 03:46 PM
I would say Martin Boyle is a far superior player to Ivan Sproule. Martin has improved immensely through the coaching he has received at Hibs. Ivan had speed when played on the wing but ran with his head down which resulted in wasted balls to no one in particular. He was a tidy finisher though and used his pace to great effect one particular afternoon in Govan! Martin Boyle will at one stage move on to a bigger club but Ivan's big move was to Bristol. He never reached the heights of his first spell at Hibs either.

carnoustiehibee
13-08-2018, 03:53 PM
Ivan did things that Boyle dreams about doing. No contest sproule all day long

cmcd
13-08-2018, 04:16 PM
Love them both but Arthur Duncan for me 😁

hfc rd
13-08-2018, 04:29 PM
In terms of pace and finishing, I’d go with Ivan. In terms of all round footballer then it has to be Squirrel. Both fantastic players for Hibs.

IGRIGI
13-08-2018, 04:32 PM
https://twitter.com/gilts_/status/1028686489184608256?s=21


Look at that pace... wow!

Even 3 yards out from an open goal however and I could only be 50% sure he was scoring :greengrin

heidtheba
13-08-2018, 04:49 PM
Nothing to add to the debate really but just wanted to say that I'm delighted we've had two coaches who know how to make a player better. We hadn't had that since Mowbray really. Stubbs and Lennon have both had an ability to develop a player (and more than one at that actually).
Happy days!

Sir David Gray
13-08-2018, 04:51 PM
Ivan Sproule's one of my favourite ever Hibs players. Absolutely loved watching him play.

Martin Boyle's up there though.

cam75
13-08-2018, 05:02 PM
I’ve named our new puppy(whippet) Sproule,he is almost as fast as Ivan.
Ggtth

jacomo
13-08-2018, 05:11 PM
Nothing to add to the debate really but just wanted to say that I'm delighted we've had two coaches who know how to make a player better. We hadn't had that since Mowbray really. Stubbs and Lennon have both had an ability to develop a player (and more than one at that actually).
Happy days!


Collins did wonders for those players prepared to listen, but it seems he will never get the credit he deserves.

Viva_Palmeiras
13-08-2018, 06:07 PM
https://youtu.be/pzd2DjLlR18

MyJo
13-08-2018, 06:21 PM
For pure, get off your seat, excitement and the background of where he came from Sproule is one of my very favourites to have pulled on the green and white but he wouldn't get in the team ahead of Boyle.

Ken
13-08-2018, 06:40 PM
Boyle for me. He’s improved loads since he joined and gets better and better


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Sammy7nil
13-08-2018, 07:13 PM
Ivan had more impact for me but Boyle still has time.

LaMotta
13-08-2018, 07:42 PM
Boyle been more consistent overall but Sproule excelled in games against very expensive Huns and Celtc teams.

The_Horde
13-08-2018, 07:46 PM
Ivan. Hands down.

The_Horde
13-08-2018, 08:41 PM
https://twitter.com/Gilts_/status/1028686489184608256?s=19

This is why.

Nakedmanoncrack
13-08-2018, 10:52 PM
To date - easy choice; Ivan.

GreenArmyyy!
14-08-2018, 08:45 AM
I’ve got to go with Ivan on this one. Boyle has refined his game hugely and is becoming one of our first names on the team sheet but found Ivan to be far more exciting and consistent in his ability to get passed players on the inside or the outside.

Boyle has great pace and ball control, whilst doing well to hit the byline I do think he’s a bit of a one trick pony that struggles against better quality defenders.

Love them both but has to be Ivan for me even if it’s just for that hat trick alone!

The_Horde
14-08-2018, 08:50 AM
Non hibs related folk often think you're exaggerating when you mention just how fast Sproule was. To say he was faster than Boyle is now seems nuts but it was true, and probably by a decent distance.

SirDavidsNapper
14-08-2018, 08:55 AM
Always thought Sproule was better coming on off the bench where as i'd be concerned if i saw a starting lineup without Boyle in it. That's the difference for me.

makaveli1875
14-08-2018, 01:13 PM
Im torn on this 1 , sproule was 1 of my favourates and that hat trick will never be forgotten but Boyle has gone from a fringe player/supersub to now being probably the 1st name on the team sheet since SJM left . Sproule was faster , boyle has a better engine and crossing . Both equal when it comes to shooting and scoring goals. Think Boyle wins it with his consistency

1van Sprou7e
14-08-2018, 01:25 PM
Ivan is one of my favourite ever players but I'm surprised how many are choosing him

Boyle is definitely the better player

WeeRussell
14-08-2018, 02:24 PM
Sproule definitely more exciting and often more effective.

Boyle has become the player with more 'football' about him and the less raw of the two.

Would also add that I don't think we'd ever have played Sproule as a wing-back in 3-5-2 (correct me if I'm wrong and we in fact did :greengrin)

Paisley Hibby
14-08-2018, 03:13 PM
Having a debate with a mate over who is/was ‘better’ for Hibs.

Two speed merchants who take on the full back with the slightest invitation and both have chipped in with important goals and assists for Hibs in their time at the club. Obviously, Boyle doesn’t have a standout moment like Ivan’s hat trick at Ibrox but for me I think Boyle has been a big factor in a better Hibs team over the past 2 years.

Just a friendly debate, but I’d be interested to hear peoples views.

If The Squirrel keeps playing the way he's started this season, there'll be clubs much bigger than Bristol City after him. Just saying....

jacomo
14-08-2018, 05:51 PM
Ivan is one of my favourite ever players but I'm surprised how many are choosing him

Boyle is definitely the better player


:agree:

horseflesh
14-08-2018, 11:12 PM
Always thought Sproule was made to look good by the quality of our midfield back then. Was wonderful to watch us counter attack in Glasgow but most quick players would look good with brown, Thomson and buezuellin picking them out