St Johnstone 1-1 Hibernian (Shaw)

[Leith Green]

Attendance:4,637


How many Hibs fans?

[hibee_girl]

McLaren off, Kamberi on

Hyndman off, Horgan on

[cabbageandribs1875]

How many Hibs fans?



the beeb didn't say

[#persevered]

Horgan in the middle or out wide?

[Coco Bryce]

http://www.hibs.net/vaispy.php

:aok:

[snooky]

McLaren off, Kamberi on

Hyndman off, Horgan on

Ta.
Everybody should read the sub-text. :wink:

[I'm_cabbaged]

Horgan in the middle or out wide?

Behind the cf’s

[H18 SFR]

Someone is winning this methinks!

[Ronster117]

Someone is winning this methinks!

Hope it's the mighty hibees

[SanFranHibs]

What a great goals to games ratio Shaw has.

:singing:

Oli Shaw, Oli Shaw, should we ask the boy....to give us some more?
Oli Shaw, Oli Shaw, we'll ask for more...cos we know he can score.

[wookie70]

Decent start from Horgan in a very big shirt, metaphorically speaking, to fill

[Phil MaGlass]

Cmon tae F Hibs

[Glory Lurker]

What is it about mcdiarmid that we struggle with? ICT and Ross used to have that effect too. Is it something to do with the A9?

[hibsbollah]

Whenever I see zander Clark he looks shaky as anything. Today, he's on it. Typical.

[rcarter1]

We could do with taking our chances.. It seems half the team are rusty, slightly injured, new to the team or some thing else. If we win, then its great to pick up 6/6 not fully top form.

[Phil MaGlass]

anything happenin

[cabbageandribs1875]

10+ mins

[OtleyHibs]

Sounds like Stevenson came close. Listening to radio is torture but sounds like both sides having chances.

C’mon Hibs, grab a winner here

[cabbageandribs1875]

at this moment in time i'd sacrifice a win at hunbrox for a win against this shower of bogey ****s

[renato]

This type of game was our downfall last season, in trying to finish 2nd. If we want to do so this season, it’s really the type of game we need to win (even this early on).

[H18 SFR]

This type of game was our downfall last season, in trying to finish 2nd. If we want to do so this season, it’s really the type of game we need to win (even this early on).

Spot on, sadly it looks as if the same problem persists.

[Glory Lurker]

Swanson for Shaw soon

[BullsCloseHibs]

at this moment in time i'd sacrifice a win at hunbrox for a win against this shower of bogey ****s

Prefer to win both.

[nonshinyfinish]

at this moment in time i'd sacrifice a win at hunbrox for a win against this shower of bogey ****s

If we’re doing deals with the devil, I submit trading 1–1 today for the same score on Thursday night.

[cabbageandribs1875]

swanson for shaw

[OtleyHibs]

Swanson on for Shaw. Would love Swanson to be the one to win this for us

[heretoday]

Willie Collum, friend of the Hibs.

[cabbageandribs1875]

Prefer to win both.


i know i know


If we’re doing deals with the devil, I submit trading 1–1 today for the same score on Thursday night.


now that would be very acceptable

[Allant1981]

to be honest a draw isnt that bad a result, rested some players for next week and didnt get beat

[Stuart93]

to be honest a draw isnt that bad a result, rested some players for next week and didnt get beat

This

[BullsCloseHibs]

Come on Hibs!

[vercol36]

to be honest a draw isnt that bad a result, rested some players for next week and didnt get beat

In past seasons I would have agreed, but seeing what we could have done last season with a few more wins instead of draws made me realise how valuable those extra 2 points can be

[OtleyHibs]

3 mins injury time, come on Hibs!!

[H18 SFR]

As part of the bigger picture with Europe etc this isn't a bad result.

Look at it in isolation and it's another disappointing result aligned with dropped points we had here last year.

[skyhibs]

to be honest a draw isnt that bad a result, rested some players for next week and didnt get beat

It is a bad result... if we want to finish second we should be winning games like this.... Celtic or the rangers away draw isn’t a bad result.... but this is

[makaveli1875]

It is a bad result... if we want to finish second we should be winning games like this.... Celtic or the rangers away draw isn’t a bad result.... but this is

correct

[BullsCloseHibs]

1-1 FT
Meh

[K-Zazu]

Haaland starts for Molde. Thought he had left?

[cabbageandribs1875]

meanwhile hibs have denied st.johnstones request to play us every week










:(

[SHODAN]

Full time. Not the worst result considering we are fighting on two fronts just now.

[we are hibs]

It's games like that we ended up regretting last season.

[H18 SFR]

Haaland starts for Molde. Thought he had left?

He didn't agree terms seemed to be the shout.

[essexhibee]

Very meh all round.

Need to be winning these. Annoying. But oh well. Our desire not to get beaten has shone threw again.

[sean04]

As part of the bigger picture with Europe etc this isn't a bad result.

Look at it in isolation and it's another disappointing result aligned with dropped points we had here last year.

I argee, players rested for Thursday. Created enough chances to win the game, New guys getting some fitness up. In to Thursday we go

[A Hi-Bee]

It is a bad result... if we want to finish second we should be winning games like this.... Celtic or the rangers away draw isn’t a bad result.... but this is

Have to agree although difficult to comment much as not at the game.

[Jim44]

As part of the bigger picture with Europe etc this isn't a bad result.

Look at it in isolation and it's another disappointing result aligned with dropped points we had here last year.

Forget about Europe, that’ll take care of itself. This is a bad result in terms of our league aspirations.

[rcarter1]

Bad result for sure, but I reckon it will take a few weeks to integrate the new players, and potentially being knocked of Europe before we put a league run together.

[Ryan91]

Haaland starts for Molde. Thought he had left?

Signed for RB Salzburg but loaned back to Molde I believe

[Speedway]

Defo need another striker.

[Lago]

to be honest a draw isnt that bad a result, rested some players for next week and didnt get beat
Totally agree, dreadful weather & having to manage injured players with an eye on Thursday game.

[hfc rd]

2 points dropped. Need to start winning these sort of games if we want to finish 2nd.

[PeeJay]

It is a bad result... if we want to finish second we should be winning games like this.... Celtic or the rangers away draw isn’t a bad result.... but this is

Bit arrogant don't you think? - We have a pretty tough schedule at the moment with Europe and the SPFL, Saints played decently by all accounts - 1 point is OK ... early days yet ...

[HoboHarry]

Haaland starts for Molde. Thought he had left?

He was loaned back for the rest of the season.

[NadeAteMyLunch!]

Haaland starts for Molde. Thought he had left?

Loaned back to them I believe but not able to play mid week due to the signing deadlines. Hope that’s correct at least.
2 points dropped today [emoji1361]

[bingo70]

It is a bad result... if we want to finish second we should be winning games like this.... Celtic or the rangers away draw isn’t a bad result.... but this is

Rangers, Aberdeen and Hearts will also drop points like this throughout the season.

For me this period is all about doing what we can to get through in Europe.

Once Europe is out the way we can hopefully build up momentum.

[Fergus52]

He was loaned back for the rest of the season.

Did it ever get clarified if he is illegible for Thursday night?

[SJNB Hibby]

We're still 2nd:agree:

[proud_and_green]

He didn't agree terms seemed to be the shout.

I thought that he had been loaned back to them...?

[Bishop Hibee]

Sounded like we were slightly the better team but couldn't make it count. A point isn't the end of the world. One defeat in our last 16 SPFL matches. Hopefully we'll be better when the new signings gain fitness and settle in. It's going to be tough to match last seasons points total with McGinn and McGeoch away.

[berwickhibee]

It is a bad result... if we want to finish second we should be winning games like this.... Celtic or the rangers away draw isn’t a bad result.... but this is

Its not a bad result. Its not great but its ok. Saints away is always tough and a deflection for their goal. Well done hibs. 1-1 in midweek would be awesome.

[MacGruber]

Full time. Not the worst result considering we are fighting on two fronts just now.

Its a decent point away from home - resting players for Europe, still to complete our signings.

Some that wouls have been okay with that a bit angsty because Hearts are top - me included

[Leithenhibby]

Signed for RB Salzburg but loaned back to Molde I believe

:agree: He's with them until the end of the season.

[Stevie Reid]

Point away from home is rarely a bad result after going a goal down. Good game time for a few, as others have said.

Great for Shaw too.

[bingo70]

I thought that he had been loaned back to them...?

Don’t think he’s officially signed for them yet.

[HIBERNIAN-0762]

Not happy and fed up with that tin pot club taking points from us. Need to do much better.

[Phil MaGlass]

Bit arrogant don't you think? - We have a pretty tough schedule at the moment with Europe and the SPFL, Saints played decently by all accounts - 1 point is OK ... early days yet ...

I dont think its arrogant, we have a stronger team, even without McGinn we should win this game.

[SMAXXA]

It is a bad result... if we want to finish second we should be winning games like this.... Celtic or the rangers away draw isn’t a bad result.... but this is

Is this the tipping point that some Hibs fans are now getting a bit dare I say arrogant or maybe just carried away. Yes we have done well last season and set high standards but St J away and a lot of other games in this league arnt easy to navigate so I think saying we should be winning games like this is disrespectful to them. My opinion of course

[cleanyman]

Very meh.

We are soft in the middle of the park. We will struggle against teams like Saints this season...even Hearts.

[number9dream]

How did Hyndman & Horgan get on?

[Stevie Reid]

Is this the tipping point that some Hibs fans are now getting a bit dare I say arrogant or maybe just carried away. Yes we have done well last season and set high standards but St J away and a lot of other games in this league arnt easy to navigate so I think saying we should be winning games like this is disrespectful to them. My opinion of course

Spot on Gary.

[bigswissstriker]

Not the end of the world, we were the better side.

Considering it wasn’t our strongest team and we are still undefeated we shouldn’t be too downhearted. We will get stronger as new signings settle and we find our best combinations and positions.

[SouthsideHarp_Bhoy]

Point is fine - especially given the circumstances.

[Blaster]

If you can’t win, make sure you don’t get beaten!

[J-C]

Rangers, Aberdeen and Hearts will also drop points like this throughout the season.

For me this period is all about doing what we can to get through in Europe.

Once Europe is out the way we can hopefully build up momentum.


As will Celtic, a big deflection for their goal today and 2 new players still finding their feet, it's a pity we couldn't have got them in earlier but they're now here and a few more weeks working together will help, St Johnstone are a well organised team with a good manager and will always be hard to beat up there.

[IGRIGI]

Need to be grinding out wins like Aberdeen did yesterday if we have serious ideas about 2nd.

[IngolstadtHarry]

Totally agree, dreadful weather & having to manage injured players with an eye on Thursday game.

Lots of excuses being put forward on this thread.
It's a bad result, whichever way we look at it.
Fighting on two fronts? That's what teams do when they play in Europe.
Bad weather? What kind of weather were St. Johnstone playing under? Just wondering.
Injuries? Do we have a smaller squad than St. Johnstone?

[RoxburghHibs]

Signed for RB Salzburg but loaned back to Molde I believe
Ah so won’t be available on Thursday in that case as deadline passed.

[superfurryhibby]

7th competitive game of the season already and we remain unbeaten.

Pleased with a point, especially following a tough European game midweek. The team showed their mettle by coming back from a goal behind away from home and by all accounts we could have and maybe should have won the game.

All good so far for me, and another decent signing will strengthen us further.

[NAE NOOKIE]

Its the 2nd game of the season, it was away from home and we made enough chances to win it if the radio is to be believed. We had a team with a 3rd choice keeper, several players in only their first few appearances in the team, a main striker we couldn't play for 90 minutes coz he's carrying an injury, and we were coming off the back of a tough European match. Take all that into account and I for one wont be moaning about an away point at a venue where we traditionally toil.

Nobody is breaking away from the pack yet and if Hertz winning their first two is getting anybody in a fankle FFS chill out. We will have a settled team soon enough, we are unlikely to make the group stages in Europe ( though obviously we all want to ) which will give us some recovery time between matches and there's a long long way to go in the season.

If we had been rubbish then fair enough, but it sounded as if in the circumstances we played pretty well losing an unlucky goal and facing a keeper who was in good form. Onwards and upwards :aok:

[wookie70]

Desperately need some more presence in the middle of the pitch. Lots of quality but little dig

[hhibs]

It's games like that we ended up regretting last season.

Exactly

[makaveli1875]

Ah so won’t be available on Thursday in that case as deadline passed.

Fake news , he hasnt signed for anyone . Still a Molde player and can play as it stands

[tynehibs]

I think it's pretty clear the club has defined the Europa league stages as priority by team selection recently and why not?

[Thecat23]

Thought Hibs were alright today, just never took the early chances we got. Still miss the Scott Allan type player imo, really hope we get him back in soon. Overall a point away is never a bad result so onto the next game now one that should be a cracker.

[Stevie Reid]

Lots of excuses being put forward on this thread.
It's a bad result, whichever way we look at it.
Fighting on two fronts? That's what teams do when they play in Europe.
Bad weather? What kind of weather were St. Johnstone playing under? Just wondering.
Injuries? Do we have a smaller squad than St. Johnstone?

It's not a bad result.

[J-C]

I think it's pretty clear the club has defined the Europa league stages as priority by team selection recently and why not?


The money for each round and even the group stages is such a huge incentive, these 3 rounds have given us around £650k, we can do a lot with that and more.

[Allant1981]

It is a bad result... if we want to finish second we should be winning games like this.... Celtic or the rangers away draw isn’t a bad result.... but this is

sorry dont agree, a draw away from home when resting players is a good result, St J are no mugs

[Bobby's Cinema]

Some of the comments are tiring, you can't win every week. Expectations maybe need managed slightly, 2nd in the league and we go again in Europe it ain't bad is it

[Hibby Kay-Yay]

Given that was not what our strongest team will regularly be, it’s a good result to come back into the game and grab a point.

I know that some are stating ‘it’s these games that could determine 2nd’ but to be honest, it’s unfair to draw that comparison with last season.

Once we hit form (as in best 1st team) then I believe we will start to pick up more points from the teams out with the top 3 from last season.

[Wakeyhibee]

I don't think the view of it being 2 points dropped is arrogant. More of expectation these days. That is healthy, something that NL has installed at Hibs which is filtering through to fans alike.

A few seasons ago, I would have regarded this a decent result, it is an OK one because of the circumstances with SJM, new signings & Europe thrown in.

But I like the attitude that we should be going to these places and winning. And theres no disrespect to St Johnstone intended in that.

[Speedway]

Horgan appears to be tatt-less. Is that still allowed in football?

[hhibs]

Very meh.

We are soft in the middle of the park. We will struggle against teams like Saints this season...even Hearts.



Agreed ,this needs to be fixed PDQ, should be no surprise to our recruitment team , DM always was likely to be off,I will be very disappointed if not sorted next week otherwise, more points will be dropped.

[snooky]

If we as fans want to adopt Neil Lennon's winning mentality we have to stop thinking a draw is 'alright' or 'acceptable under the circumstances'. That's the mentality of also-rans.
Harsh but true.

[H18 SFR]

I thought that he had been loaned back to them...?

Possibly mate, I was just going by chat on here/Facebook etc.

[SHODAN]

Agreed ,this needs to be fixed PDQ, should be no surprise to our recruitment team , DM always was likely to be off,I will be very disappointed if not sorted next week otherwise, more points will be dropped.

Thankfully we don't have a league game for two weeks (EL and LC instead) so no chance for points to be dropped. :wink:

[RoxburghHibs]

Horgan appears to be tatt-less. Is that still allowed in football?

What's that mean?

[kaimendhibs]

We created and missed plenty chances 1st half but a combination of poor finishing and last gasp blocks cost us. Collum was an utter joke all game and gave us nowt. I thought we did well enough but was concerned at the number of corners we gave away.

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[makaveli1875]

sorry dont agree, a draw away from home when resting players is a good result, St J are no mugs

A draw with St Johnstone will never be a good result , its better than getting beat but a long way from good . Weve thrown away too many points against them recently

[hibee_girl]

What's that mean?

No tattoos

[Allant1981]

A draw with St Johnstone will never be a good result , its better than getting beat but a long way from good . Weve thrown away too many points against them recently

i didnt say it was a good result, id love to win every week but when you don't lose with a few first team players out then its not to bad, again we have no devine right to think we should win every week

[hhibs]

I don't think the view of it being 2 points dropped is arrogant. More of expectation these days. That is healthy, something that NL has installed at Hibs which is filtering through to fans alike.

A few seasons ago, I would have regarded this a decent result, it is an OK one because of the circumstances with SJM, new signings & Europe thrown in.

But I like the attitude that we should be going to these places and winning. And theres no disrespect to St Johnstone intended in that.




Indeed .after decades of having to accept things ,now ,at last, NL has brought some "balls" to the Hibs team,seems to me some of our fans need to be as demanding .

[bingo70]

i didnt say it was a good result, id love to win every week but when you don't lose with a few first team players out then its not to bad, again we have no devine right to think we should win every week

Also worth noting finishing second is hugely ambitious and shouldn’t define how good a season we have.

Fourth and in Europe again would be just fine with me.

[Stevie Reid]

If we as fans want to adopt Neil Lennon's winning mentality we have to stop thinking a draw is 'alright' or 'acceptable under the circumstances'. That's the mentality of also-rans.
Harsh but true.

No thanks man. Lennon will sort the players out and instil that. I'm not going to adopt the sort of attitude and behaviour that I abhor in OF fans and Jambos.

[J-C]

Just heard Lennon and he's not happy with a point, thought the team and defence played well but wasn't happy at a point, bemoaned not having enough time to spend with the players training due to European games and the travelling, maybe a good reason for him to get his targets in a bit quicker then but it is what it is.

[blackpoolhibs]

We did ok, never won but a point is better than nothing. And considering we were bedding in a new player, lost our best player and played a couple of fringe ones, its not the worst result.

As for expectations, they are rightly up, but people really do need to manage them better. I personally dont think we have a hope in hells chance of 2nd this season, and would be very happy to emulate last seasons finish.

[Wakeyhibee]

No thanks man. Lennon will sort the players out and instil that. I'm not going to adopt the sort of attitude and behaviour that I abhor in OF fans and Jambos.

I don't think there's any harm in having that expectation but not the God given right to as those lot come across like.

[Centre Hawf]

Not annoyed at the result. I think what annoys me is that were still shaping our squad and 11 but have started the season now.

[Cod Boy]

Have the players never played in the rain before oh but it’s the weather.

[Elephant Stone]

Strong start to the season all things considered, these games in between European matches are difficult for a number of reasons and teams will be dropping points in them as long as European football exists.

Well done Hibs, great start to the season in Europe and in the league as well.

[Lago]

Lots of excuses being put forward on this thread.
It's a bad result, whichever way we look at it.
Fighting on two fronts? That's what teams do when they play in Europe.
Bad weather? What kind of weather were St. Johnstone playing under? Just wondering.
Injuries? Do we have a smaller squad than St. Johnstone?
No it's not a bad result.

[Fife-Hibee]

A win on Thursday and this game will be swiftly removed from memory. If it wasn't for the european games, this result would annoy me far more than it does.

[Jim44]

We did ok, never won but a point is better than nothing. And considering we were bedding in a new player, lost our best player and played a couple of fringe ones, its not the worst result.

As for expectations, they are rightly up, but people really do need to manage them better. I personally dont think we have a hope in hells chance of 2nd this season, and would be very happy to emulate last seasons finish.

:agree: Top five will be acceptable, top four will be very good, second would be unbelievable.

[CMac1988]

What's that mean?

No Tattoos. Did McGinn have one? Kamberri? Think there's a few in the squad that don't. At least ones that are on show that is... 😉

[Wakeyhibee]

:agree: Top five will be acceptable, top four will be very good, second would be unbelievable.

Agree, was gonna post the same!

[Shrekko]

Decent game that we maybe could have sneaked a win in but some Hibs fans need to get a grip- the sense of entitlement is already nearing Old Firm fans levels.

We’ve had to be patient to let McGinn saga unfold and we’re not 100 percent where we’d like to be with player recruitment etc but last time I looked we were unbeaten.

[swin82]

Decent game that we maybe could have sneaked a win in but some Hibs fans need to get a grip- the sense of entitlement is already nearing Old Firm fans levels.

We’ve had to be patient to let McGinn saga unfold and we’re not 100 percent where we’d like to be with player recruitment etc but last time I looked we were unbeaten.

Couldn’t agree more👍🏻

[hfc rd]

How did Hyndman and Horgan do today?

[bingo70]

:agree: Top five will be acceptable, top four will be very good, second would be unbelievable.

Fifth would be acceptable but a bit **** really, unless there’s a cup win or euro group stages chucked in too of course.

3rd or 4th would be great, 1st or 2nd as unlikely as each other imo.

[Pretty Boy]

I'd have taken a point before the game. Sounded like we could have been out of sight before they scored but that's football sometimes.

All things considered a decent point and continues a good unbeaten run.

[bigwheel]

Decent game that we maybe could have sneaked a win in but some Hibs fans need to get a grip- the sense of entitlement is already nearing Old Firm fans levels.

We’ve had to be patient to let McGinn saga unfold and we’re not 100 percent where we’d like to be with player recruitment etc but last time I looked we were unbeaten.

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[Booked4Being-Ugly]

:agree: Top five will be acceptable, top four will be very good, second would be unbelievable.5th would mean regression from last season.

[bingo70]

5th would mean regression from last season.

Considering the players we have lost this summer it probably has to be accepted that’s not out the question, even if it’s not something to strive for.

A lot could depend on cup runs, if we happen to get through in Europe then it’s asking a lot of the squad to be competitive on both fronts, same applies if you throw in a league cup run.

[Hibbyradge]

I can't believe this place sometimes.

I had to leave my hotel at halftime and I didn't manage to find somewhere with wi-fi until after the game had finished.

When I logged back in to the MB, I was dreading finding out that we'd lost so I gave a small cheer when I saw we had taken a point.

Then I read the rest of this thread to see that for some folk, the sky has fallen in. Again.

Under plenty of previous managers, Hibs would have crumbled after losing the first goal. We didn't.

We're still in second place along side our rivals who also have a win and a draw to their name so far.

And, to put things in perspective, Celtic won the league in a canter last year and they drew 10 times and lost 4.

We're unbeaten after 7 games. Try to enjoy it.

[Stevie Reid]

5th would mean regression from last season.

It would also mean our first back to back top 5 finishes in 13 years.

[Stevie Reid]

I can't believe this place sometimes.

I had to leave my hotel at halftime and I didn't manage to find somewhere with wi-fi until after the game had finished.

When I logged back in to the MB, I was dreading finding out that we'd lost so I gave a small cheer when I saw we had taken a point.

Then I read the rest of this thread to see that for some folk, the sky has fallen in. Again.

Under plenty of previous managers, Hibs would have crumbled after losing the first goal. We didn't.

We're still in second place along side our rivals who also have a win and a draw to their name so far.

And, to put things in perspective, Celtic won the league in a canter last year and they drew 10 times and lost 4.

We're unbeaten after 7 games. Try to enjoy it.

Well said man.

[Elephant Stone]

5th would mean regression from last season.

Love these conclusive statements before anything has happened. We could finish 5th and win both cups but it's already been decided, 5th place = going backwards.

[hfc rd]

5th would mean regression from last season.


5th place with a cup and reaching the EL group stages would be an outstanding season for me personally.

[B.H.F.C]

Not a disaster, given the European commitments and the fact we left a few out.

But there isn’t a single player in that St Johnstone team who would get a game for us so disappointed not to win. Especially when we were so wasteful in the first half.

[Captain Trips]

Love these conclusive statements before anything has happened. We could finish 5th and win both cups but it's already been decided, 5th place = going backwards.

It is if that's all we get.

[IGRIGI]

Let's just get the cocks out and have a Sherman tank over a 1 all draw with the Saints in Perth.

[Hi Heid Yin]

We did a Celtic and, with Europe in mind, rested key players.
This is the price we pay for success.
On top of this we are not only trying to bed-in new players ( and quality players at that) but rotate the squad.
Despite these hurdles we remain unbeaten in our first 7 competitive games.
I have every confidence in Neil Lennon and am convinced that we will be competing for 2nd spot this season.

[Wakeyhibee]

5th would mean regression from last season.

it would statistically, but factor in having to replace your whole creative midfield and it might be viewed acceptable, OK, even good.

[Stevie Reid]

Let's just get the cocks out and have a Sherman tank over a 1 all draw with the Saints in Perth.

Oh the cocks are definitely out man. All over this thread.

[hibsmad]

It would also mean our first back to back top 5 finishes in 13 years.

That’s because we’ve spent the majority of those 13 years being pish. We’re not pish now, we’re actually pretty good.

I’d personally be really disappointed with finishing fifth.

[chrisski33]

:agree: Top five will be acceptable, top four will be very good, second would be unbelievable.

No fifth wouldnt be acceptable and Lennon will be aiming as high as we can achieve and we could still get 2nd place. I for one wouldnt be happy finishing 5th

[bingo70]

No fifth wouldnt be acceptable and Lennon will be aiming as high as we can achieve and we could still get 2nd place. I for one wouldnt be happy finishing 5th

It’s not as black and white as that.

If we win a cup or get to the group stages it’s been a good season, even if we do end up finishing 5th IMO.

[Thecat23]

Let's just get the cocks out and have a Sherman tank over a 1 all draw with the Saints in Perth.

Listen considering we have European ties and rested players it’s a good result.

[green day]

I can't believe this place sometimes.

I had to leave my hotel at halftime and I didn't manage to find somewhere with wi-fi until after the game had finished.

When I logged back in to the MB, I was dreading finding out that we'd lost so I gave a small cheer when I saw we had taken a point.

Then I read the rest of this thread to see that for some folk, the sky has fallen in. Again.

Under plenty of previous managers, Hibs would have crumbled after losing the first goal. We didn't.

We're still in second place along side our rivals who also have a win and a draw to their name so far.

And, to put things in perspective, Celtic won the league in a canter last year and they drew 10 times and lost 4.

We're unbeaten after 7 games. Try to enjoy it.

In 21 matches back to 31st January, we have only lost once - To hearts at Tiny.

[B.H.F.C]

Listen considering we have European ties and rested players it’s a good result.

Based on the way the game went it wasn’t a good result though. Should have been a couple of goals up and lost a really crap goal.

Said in an earlier post it’s not a disaster but it’s not a good result either.

[Keith_M]

I'm disappointed that we didn't win. Not because it's 'only' St Johnstone but because I'm always disappointed when we don't win.

This is a new season, with arguably our two best players having left and new arrivals still settling in, or still to play. Last season is in the past and what we do this season is still anybody's guess.

We're in a good place as a club and I'm going to support the manager and team whatever happens. Onwards and Upwards.




See you all next Sunday!



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[bingo70]

In 21 matches back to 31st January, we have only lost once - To hearts at Tiny.

Our form in the second half of he season couldn’t have been too far off title winning form if it was extended over the season.

My big fear this season is Rodgers falling four with Celtic and leaving with them replacing him with Lennon. if Rodgers goes I think it’s a stick on Lennon would go back there, I know not everyone agrees with that but that’s what I think may well end up happening.

[JXM73]

We need a Marvin Bartley....Whittaker for me played well but his legs have gone....

[skyhibs]

sorry dont agree, a draw away from home when resting players is a good result, St J are no mugs

So let’s draw away from home every game and see where we end up.... not second that’s for sure.... these are games we need to be winning if we have aspirations to finish as high as possible...

We don’t have a strong enough team to rest players... just as today’s result showed

[BIGK]

2 points dropped. Need to start winning these sort of games if we want to finish 2nd.

totaly agree. Aberdeen win these games and toil with the big games ( Hibs, The Rangers, Celtic, and even the smellies). that is the differance between 4th and 2nd as was proved last season. I get the mitigating sircumstances regarding the Molde game and being early in the season but points make prizes.
I'm sort of happy with the result today but I hope the players are not.

[Sioux]

We've played 7 games. 5 in Europe and 2 in the league. Won 4 and drawn 3.

Anyone would have taken that at the start of the season, unless they were being unrealistic.

We had a midfield of McGinn, Mcgeouch and Allan which coincided with some excellent form. They're gone. You cant replace like for like. No two players are the same.

NL needs to build an entirely new midfield this season, and I'm fairly sure he realises that we will be weaker in that area. It would take a hell of a lot of money to get three players to have the same impact as they did. The style of the team will need to change to accommodate the players brought in.

Overall, re-creating the form from January to the end of the season was always going to be, and will be, a hard task. I've no doubt NL is up for it.

[hibsbollah]

Blimey this place is full of Lawrenson parking warden cardy wearing sweet sherry drinking cockwombles this evening. :agree:

[Dancehibs]

We need a Marvin Bartley....Whittaker for me played well but his legs have gone....
We need to replace Dylan. Hopefully the deal for Kamara goes through

[Elephant Stone]

Oh the cocks are definitely out man. All over this thread.

:top marks

[Hibs90]

I'm sorry but Whittaker is a liability when he is played in that role and it needs to be stopped. How many times did they have a man free on the edge of the box, where was Whittaker? Misplacing passes, getting skinned. He done some things ok but he should be nowhere near the starting 11.

[jacomo]

I’ll tell you what, Hibs.net matchday threads have to improve if we want to progress as a club.

:wink:

[Wilson]

So let’s draw away from home every game and see where we end up.... not second that’s for sure.... these are games we need to be winning if we have aspirations to finish as high as possible...

We don’t have a strong enough team to rest players... just as today’s result showed

There was nothing wrong with the strength of team we fielded today. It was strong enough to win and didn't.

We didnt field an especially poor side and squad management is a serious consideration for teams looking to progress in Europe.

It is interesting to see the kerfuffle it causes on here. Clearly we are not used to having to deal with it.

[ForeverHibs93]

I’m surprised people think 5th would be acceptable, if we start to go backwards or stagnate (which finishing 5th alone would be). Lennon will be off, he has a winning mentality and won’t settle for just plodding along being happy at 5th/4th every season. Nor should we as fans be.

Of course there can be mitigating circumstances, if we won both cups for example it would still be a very successful season, but coming 5th alone is not a success and NL won’t view it as one either.

I’m not overly phased by today, we had a hard game Thursday and an even bigger one Thursday coming so I can understand our concentration being on that, if we’re still dropping points like this when we’re out of Europe, full strength and the team is used to playing together - then, I’ll be worried.

[BIGK]

The money for each round and even the group stages is such a huge incentive, these 3 rounds have given us around £650k, we can do a lot with that and more.

I share thet view but how much is left after expences, cant be anywhere near that.

[bigwheel]

So let’s draw away from home every game and see where we end up.... not second that’s for sure.... these are games we need to be winning if we have aspirations to finish as high as possible...

We don’t have a strong enough team to rest players... just as today’s result showed

How about and wait until we've played every team and assess how we are doing , rather than judge after 2 games


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[thegaffer12]

How were the new guys today?

[Liberal Hibby]

So let’s draw away from home every game and see where we end up.... not second that’s for sure.... these are games we need to be winning if we have aspirations to finish as high as possible...

We don’t have a strong enough team to rest players... just as today’s result showed

Drawing every game away would easily see us second.

Winning at home and drawing away would give us 76 points overthe course of a season.

[Hibbyradge]

I share thet view but how much is left after expences, cant be anywhere near that.

Even if we spent every penny of the prize money on expenses, we've had 3 home games which will have netted us close to a quarter of a million.

[hibsbollah]

How about and wait until we've played every team and assess how we are doing , rather than judge after 2 games


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Crazy talk.

[Blaster]

So let’s draw away from home every game and see where we end up.... not second that’s for sure.... these are games we need to be winning if we have aspirations to finish as high as possible...

We don’t have a strong enough team to rest players... just as today’s result showed

If we won all our home games we might be 2nd...

[Wheat Hound]

Thought Horgan looked comfortable on the ball, made space for himself with some nice footwork and generally looked promising playing kind of no.10 role.
Hyndman also looked bright first half, always looking to pass forward but understandably faded second half.

Far more promising signs from both than not, and given both have only been here a few days, it bodes well.

For me though Porteous and Efe were the standouts. Porteous in particular is just a machine and his robust challenge towards the end was immense, encouraging a standing ovation in itself. Think the recipient is still lying on the turf!

[skyhibs]

Drawing every game away would easily see us second.

Winning at home and drawing away would give us 76 points overthe course of a season.
We ain’t gonna win every home game. I wish we would

[Allant1981]

So let’s draw away from home every game and see where we end up.... not second that’s for sure.... these are games we need to be winning if we have aspirations to finish as high as possible...

We don’t have a strong enough team to rest players... just as today’s result showed

well we do as we didnt get beat and were the better team

[Nakedmanoncrack]

Sounded a good game on the radio - always disappointing not to win, but to be honest I never really fancy us to go to places like that and win, I've been loads of times not sure I can ever remember seeing us win. If we could change that, and start turning these draws into wins we would have a chance of doing something.

[BegbieHSC]

Our form in the second half of he season couldn’t have been too far off title winning form if it was extended over the season.

My big fear this season is Rodgers falling four with Celtic and leaving with them replacing him with Lennon. if Rodgers goes I think it’s a stick on Lennon would go back there, I know not everyone agrees with that but that’s what I think may well end up happening.

Lenny left Celtic for exactly the reason Rodgers could potentially leave.

Would be surprised tbh. Lenny’s loving life here too.

[Wakeyhibee]

Our form in the second half of he season couldn’t have been too far off title winning form if it was extended over the season.

My big fear this season is Rodgers falling four with Celtic and leaving with them replacing him with Lennon. if Rodgers goes I think it’s a stick on Lennon would go back there, I know not everyone agrees with that but that’s what I think may well end up happening.

I think there will be a lot of clubs down south watching NL. Given that he's very driven and challenge orientated, I think it would take a huge commitment towards the Champions League from Celtic to lure him back if there are other big clubs in England interested.

[Dalianwanda]

So let’s draw away from home every game and see where we end up.... not second that’s for sure.... these are games we need to be winning if we have aspirations to finish as high as possible...

We don’t have a strong enough team to rest players... just as today’s result showed
Jeez it’s started already.

So your answer is just to keep playing our strongest team for every game? Even though this time we’re missing preseason and playing high standard opposition every midweek?

We’re bringing players in to create a squad capable on more than one level. Running our best players into to the ground and not giving others gametime doesn’t sound like a lot of thought is going into things.

[BegbieHSC]

I’m surprised people think 5th would be acceptable, if we start to go backwards or stagnate (which finishing 5th alone would be). Lennon will be off, he has a winning mentality and won’t settle for just plodding along being happy at 5th/4th every season. Nor should we as fans be.

Of course there can be mitigating circumstances, if we won both cups for example it would still be a very successful season, but coming 5th alone is not a success and NL won’t view it as one either.

I’m not overly phased by today, we had a hard game Thursday and an even bigger one Thursday coming so I can understand our concentration being on that, if we’re still dropping points like this when we’re out of Europe, full strength and the team is used to playing together - then, I’ll be worried.

5th would be entirely unacceptable for me. Tbh, I wouldn’t be that happy with 4th if we didn’t at least make a cup final.

If we’re not progressing, what are we doing?

[The Spaceman]

Came away from that one disappointed not to have the 3 points but not downbeat. We looked good, weren't full strength and obviously have a pretty big distraction on Thursday. We were comfortable for large parts of that game.

Think Horgan looked very handy, his quick turning and changes of direction are going to cause teams all sorts of problems. Once Flo and JMac are up to speed we are good to go.

[BIGK]

Well said man.

Stuff that. Spent the last 30 years of my life enjoying it. This team can go for miles....... as for settling for 4/5 away and cuddle ma humph

[Mr_F]

We’re bang average without McGinn. Midfield is slow, devoid of drive, urgency & a leader..

Bad enough to lose him, Dylan & Allan then to replace all 3 with players nowhere near as good..

Nobody expects us to replace like for like but if we don’t even come close we’ll be miles off from last season

[Borderhibbie76]

I'm sorry but Whittaker is a liability when he is played in that role and it needs to be stopped. How many times did they have a man free on the edge of the box, where was Whittaker? Misplacing passes, getting skinned. He done some things ok but he should be nowhere near the starting 11.Utter rubbish...I'm no Whittaker fan but he was OK today...gave the ball away a couple of times but he did fine imo

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[blackpoolhibs]

We ain’t gonna win every home game. I wish we would

And we aint gonna draw every away game, so your initial post was a bit daft.

[Earlydelivery]

Just watched the highlights how we no win that .

[Hamish]

How about and wait until we've played every team and assess how we are doing , rather than judge after 2 games


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Ridiculous post. Reported.

[Shrekko]

We’re bang average without McGinn. Midfield is slow, devoid of drive, urgency & a leader..

Bad enough to lose him, Dylan & Allan then to replace all 3 with players nowhere near as good..

Nobody expects us to replace like for like but if we don’t even come close we’ll be miles off from last season

How on earth can you say the players are nowhere near as good already?

They’re different players but there’s been good signs. If you think guys like Mallan and Hyndman are duffers I don’t know what your reasonable expectations are?

Some utter knee jerk tosh being posted today. We’ve made a good start to the season with better to come... what are people’s problems?

[Heisenberg]

How on earth can you say the players are nowhere near as good already?

They’re different players but there’s been good signs. If you think guys like Mallan and Hyndman are duffers I don’t know what your reasonable expectations are?

Some utter knee jerk tosh being posted today. We’ve made a good start to the season with better to come... what are people’s problems?

Was just about to post the same. Ridiculous to make calls like that on players who have hardly kicked a ball for us so far.

[Nakedmanoncrack]

How on earth can you say the players are nowhere near as good already?

They’re different players but there’s been good signs. If you think guys like Mallan and Hyndman are duffers I don’t know what your reasonable expectations are?

Some utter knee jerk tosh being posted today. We’ve made a good start to the season with better to come... what are people’s problems?

:agree:

[Allant1981]

We’re bang average without McGinn. Midfield is slow, devoid of drive, urgency & a leader..

Bad enough to lose him, Dylan & Allan then to replace all 3 with players nowhere near as good..

Nobody expects us to replace like for like but if we don’t even come close we’ll be miles off from last season

you do realise we havent been beaten so far this season in europe and league?

[Borderhibbie76]

Was just about to post the same. Ridiculous to make calls like that on players who have hardly kicked a ball for us so far.Agreed an utterly ridiculous post...funny we never beat ST J once last year with Dylan Allan and McGinn?? So a nonsense post as u say

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[Dancehibs]

Agreed an utterly ridiculous post...funny we never beat ST J once last year with Dylan Allan and McGinn?? So a nonsense post as u say

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Slack finishing cost us three points and lost a soft goal. For me we need target man if Flo not playing we miss someone to hold it in. New players are short of match fitness.

[Shrekko]

Slack finishing cost us three points and lost a soft goal. For me we need target man if Flo not playing we miss someone to hold it in. New players are short of match fitness.

Do you not think Shaw’s hold up play has been considerably better than Kamberi’s so far this season?

[B.H.F.C]

Utter rubbish...I'm no Whittaker fan but he was OK today...gave the ball away a couple of times but he did fine imo

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Agree. There were players worse that him today without him being much more than decent. Mallan for starters.

Thought Whittaker was actually one trying to drive us forward in the last 10 minutes but that was possibly as a result of him being fresher than others.

[MWHIBBIES]

Whittaker was as good as any Hibs player today. Anyone singling him out has an agenda from previous mistakes. Good performance from him without doubt.

[heretoday]

It's early days but when we make chances we must take them.

[hibsbollah]

Do you not think Shaw’s hold up play has been considerably better than Kamberi’s so far this season?

Glad someone else has noticed this. He has a real knack for retaining possession for those extra seconds which allows the midfield cavalry to arrive. Not easy to do and not every striker can do it. Another reason to think we have unearthed a gem.

[BoomtownHibees]

Whittaker was as good as any Hibs player today. Anyone singling him out has an agenda from previous mistakes. Good performance from him without doubt.

He’s this seasons scapegoat, no doubt about it. At the game today the slightest mistake he made was met with derision whilst others who done the same got a bit of encouragement

[CapitalGreen]

Whittaker was as good as any Hibs player today. Anyone singling him out has an agenda from previous mistakes. Good performance from him without doubt.

I thought he was pretty dreadful today, if that means I am perceived as having some sort of agenda then so be it.

[MWHIBBIES]

I thought he was pretty dreadful today, if that means I am perceived as having some sort of agenda then so be it.Why exactly was he dreadful? Won his battles all day, many interceptions, some nice passes forward, great tackles all day.

[kaimendhibs]

Decent game that we maybe could have sneaked a win in but some Hibs fans need to get a grip- the sense of entitlement is already nearing Old Firm fans levels.

We’ve had to be patient to let McGinn saga unfold and we’re not 100 percent where we’d like to be with player recruitment etc but last time I looked we were unbeaten.10/10

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[Dalianwanda]

If this is what the boards gonna be like when we draw away from home, at the start of the season, unbeaten including a European campaign.........i dread is losing

[Scotty Leither]

Although it is early in the season, that today highlighted for me that we still lack a really physical forward in the mould of Paatelainen or Killen to mix it (no pun intended) at the top end of the park.

It was the same in some games last year, and I don't think it's unreasonable for the fans to expect some cash to be splashed to widen the choices available to the manager.

St Johnstone are a typical attritional SPL team that we haven't beaten in 5 attempts now and it's silly dropped points in games like these that cost us 2nd last year IMHO.

We're not far away and it's tantalising to think what we could achieve with 2 or 3 more first=pick signings. How about it Board?

[Hi Heid Yin]

I’ll tell you what, Hibs.net matchday threads have to improve if we want to progress as a club.

:wink:

Match day threads are always the same.
They bring out posters who are prone to exaggerating to the Nth degree....lose a goal and we are collectively "woeful"; score a goal and we are "world beaters".

[Nemo]

We’ll get better, still won’t get higher than fifth this season IMO

You can’t lose players of the quality of sjm and dm,Allan and Barker

Without a drop in performances and results. It’s just a fact.

Celtic
Rangers
Hearts
Aberdeen
Hibs

That’s how the league will look come end of the season.

[Billy Whizz]

Whittaker was as good as any Hibs player today. Anyone singling him out has an agenda from previous mistakes. Good performance from him without doubt.

I thought Steven had a fine game today

[SaulGoodman]

We’re bang average without McGinn. Midfield is slow, devoid of drive, urgency & a leader..

Bad enough to lose him, Dylan & Allan then to replace all 3 with players nowhere near as good..

Nobody expects us to replace like for like but if we don’t even come close we’ll be miles off from last season

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[Dancehibs]

Do you not think Shaw’s hold up play has been considerably better than Kamberi’s so far this season?
It has improved. Shaw not type of player like mixu or a Flo where you can bang it long and he can fight the centre halves. Oli has lots of other qualities. McLaren will need to be at it because oli is pushing hard to start

[Ozyhibby]

I thought Steven had a fine game today

It certainly wasn’t his worst but his passing was very slack.


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[stantonhibby]

We’ll get better, still won’t get higher than fifth this season IMO

You can’t lose players of the quality of sjm and dm,Allan and Barker

Without a drop in performances and results. It’s just a fact.

Celtic
Rangers
Hearts
Aberdeen
Hibs

That’s how the league will look come end of the season.


Mystic Meg

[Dalianwanda]

We’ll get better, still won’t get higher than fifth this season IMO

You can’t lose players of the quality of sjm and dm,Allan and Barker

Without a drop in performances and results. It’s just a fact.

Celtic
Rangers
Hearts
Aberdeen
Hibs

That’s how the league will look come end of the season.

So is it a fact or opinion? You start saying IMO and finish with it being a fact.....which it’s not

[Nemo]

So is it a fact or opinion? You start saying IMO and finish with it being a fact.....which it’s not

Read it again. It’s a fact our performances and results will not be as good

It’s my opinion we’ll not finish higher than fifth.

Simples

[Ozyhibby]

Read it again. It’s a fact our performances and results will not be as good

It’s my opinion we’ll not finish higher than fifth.

Simples

Not as good as the first half of the season or the second half? Because they are very different things. Maybe we will be better than the first half of the season but not as good as the 2nd? That could still result in us finishing 2nd.
You say our midfield is not as good but our forward line is surely better than it was in the first half of last season?
Mallan may not be Mcginn but I bet he scores more goals and gets more assists.
It’s not a fact that our results and performances won’t be as good. There is no way of knowing. You are just talking mince.


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[allmodcons]

We’ll get better, still won’t get higher than fifth this season IMO

You can’t lose players of the quality of sjm and dm,Allan and Barker

Without a drop in performances and results. It’s just a fact.

Celtic
Rangers
Hearts
Aberdeen
Hibs

That’s how the league will look come end of the season.

Why do you follow Hibs? What have Hearts done this season that commands your respect? You have them 3rd on what basis or evidence? Wind up merchant.

[Blaster]

Time for Finding Nemo some happy pills 😉

[HibbyAndy]

We’ll get better, still won’t get higher than fifth this season IMO

You can’t lose players of the quality of sjm and dm,Allan and Barker

Without a drop in performances and results. It’s just a fact.

Celtic
Rangers
Hearts
Aberdeen
Hibs

That’s how the league will look come end of the season.


:hilarious:hilarious:hilarious

[Dalianwanda]

Read it again. It’s a fact our performances and results will not be as good

It’s my opinion we’ll not finish higher than fifth.

Simples
It’s not ‘simples’ if you add “fact” at the end of your post. It’s purely an opinion...For the start of a season with European football, new players in, best player gone, rotating squad, more players to come in...........it’s a guess at best based on nothing. We could be great we might not.....simples (do folk even use that term any more??)

[Shrekko]

It has improved. Shaw not type of player like mixu or a Flo where you can bang it long and he can fight the centre halves. Oli has lots of other qualities. McLaren will need to be at it because oli is pushing hard to start
I’m not seeing the side of Kamberi’s game you’re describing. He’s tall but not at all a target man for me and quite often lets guys get in front of him quite easily whereas Oli has been good at backing into defenders and controlling balls into him before laying it off. Not criticising Flo but I just dont think that’s his game.

[Borderhibbie76]

Do you not think Shaw’s hold up play has been considerably better than Kamberi’s so far this season?Shaw has been considerably better than both Jamie Mac and Flo thus far imo...Kamberi is obviously not firing on all cylinders with this knee injury and Jamie Mac doesn't look fit yet neither. We need to sign a 4th striker imo for cover and preferably as u say a big target man

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[Borderhibbie76]

I thought he was pretty dreadful today, if that means I am perceived as having some sort of agenda then so be it.I presume you thought Mallan was dreadful then and Hyndman?? Coz imo Whittaker was streets ahead of them both today and as i posted earlier I am no fan of Whittaker but he's getting a raw deal of some

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[Nemo]

Not as good as the first half of the season or the second half? Because they are very different things. Maybe we will be better than the first half of the season but not as good as the 2nd? That could still result in us finishing 2nd.
You say our midfield is not as good but our forward line is surely better than it was in the first half of last season?
Mallan may not be Mcginn but I bet he scores more goals and gets more assists.
It’s not a fact that our results and performances won’t be as good. There is no way of knowing. You are just talking mince.


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There is no way of knowing. If I was right with every prediction I made

I would be on MOTD with Lineker & co not sitting here in 3 day old pants

With an egg stained vest looking like a zombie version of Tony f***ing Soprano

[BegbieHSC]

We’ll get better, still won’t get higher than fifth this season IMO

You can’t lose players of the quality of sjm and dm,Allan and Barker

Without a drop in performances and results. It’s just a fact.

Celtic
Rangers
Hearts
Aberdeen
Hibs

That’s how the league will look come end of the season.

Sweet Jesus

[rcarter1]

We’ll get better, still won’t get higher than fifth this season IMO

You can’t lose players of the quality of sjm and dm,Allan and Barker

Without a drop in performances and results. It’s just a fact.

Celtic
Rangers
Hearts
Aberdeen
Hibs

That’s how the league will look come end of the season.

And thats if we can finish above Kilmarnock... But, If we can get everybody fit, sharp and we work out a playing system that suits the new squad I'm hoping we can compete for 4th or even 3rd. Agree that the players we have lost make it hard.

[Hi Heid Yin]

We’ll get better, still won’t get higher than fifth this season IMO

You can’t lose players of the quality of sjm and dm,Allan and Barker

Without a drop in performances and results. It’s just a fact.

Celtic
Rangers
Hearts
Aberdeen
Hibs

That’s how the league will look come end of the season.

A "fact" can only be established after the event, otherwise it is mere "opinion" (which is subjective)
It is thus your "opinion" that the table you "predicted" will manifest itself.

[CapitalGreen]

I presume you thought Mallan was dreadful then and Hyndman?? Coz imo Whittaker was streets ahead of them both today and as i posted earlier I am no fan of Whittaker but he's getting a raw deal of some

Presume whatever you want because if you think Whittaker was “streets ahead” of anyone today then your opinion is unlikely to be one I’d value.

[B.H.F.C]

Presume whatever you want because if you think Whittaker was “streets ahead” of anyone today then your opinion is unlikely to be one I’d value.

You said he was dreadful and that just wasn’t the case.

I agree he wasn’t streets ahead of anyone right enough. But if he had given the ball away inside his own box, like Mallan did for their goal, he’d be getting absolutely slaughtered. A Whittaker error seems to be magnified compared to others these days and you could feel that in the stands at the game today.

[Cod Boy]

Any stray pass from Whitty was jumped on by boy behind me your swear words Whitty. Then other players making mistakes nothing was said .

[Lago]

2 league games gone and the doom mongers are out in force.:confused:

[Borderhibbie76]

Was just gonna say that actually Mallan cost us a goal today...imagine if Whittaker had made that error ...
You said he was dreadful and that just wasn’t the case.

I agree he wasn’t streets ahead of anyone right enough. But if he had given the ball away inside his own box, like Mallan did for their goal, he’d be getting absolutely slaughtered. A Whittaker error seems to be magnified compared to others these days and you could feel that in the stands at the game today.

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[timewilltell]

2 league games gone and the doom mongers are out in force.:confused:


Sorry, but that was a crap result. It’s those type of results which mean you finish 4th at best..

[JimBHibees]

Whittaker was as good as any Hibs player today. Anyone singling him out has an agenda from previous mistakes. Good performance from him without doubt.

Guy is a good player who has served Hibs well over a number of years it seems a little odd so many seem very keen to criticise him. He is unlikely to be a regular starter however can play a number of positions well and is definitely an asset to the team.

[Souter96Mac]

So were there any standouts today?

[Ozyhibby]

Presume whatever you want because if you think Whittaker was “streets ahead” of anyone today then your opinion is unlikely to be one I’d value.

[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23] Somebody had to say it.


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[B.H.F.C]

So were there any standouts today?

Most of the good things we did cane from Boyle. Ambrose good again.

[Dalianwanda]

Sorry, but that was a crap result. It’s those type of results which mean you finish 4th at best..

Really doesnt mean anything....If theres a consistent pattern of results yes, if theres a consistant pattern of better results no...If theres a mix of results with some better we still do better...Who knows. we got an away point, not great but means nothing yet.

[Inconsequential]

Was just about to post the same. Ridiculous to make calls like that on players who have hardly kicked a ball for us so far. Absolutely! On some Facebook Hibs groups players were being judged BEFORE they even had kicked a ball for Hibs. I dared to question their 'opinion' only to be told to get to **** or similar. I resigned!

[Sir David Gray]

So were there any standouts today?

Ambrose and Boyle were excellent.

[Ozyhibby]

Was just gonna say that actually Mallan cost us a goal today...imagine if Whittaker had made that error ...

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Why do you think his errors are magnified? Is it personal, has Whittaker wronged everyone individually away from football? Or, is it possible that there is a lot more of them so people are less forgiving?
Nobody is picking on him, he’s a well like individual among Hibs fans. It’s just that he is struggling to play this level now.


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[Lago]

Sorry, but that was a crap result. It’s those type of results which mean you finish 4th at best..
Sorry but it is certainly not crap, to basically condemn the team & the potential end of season league placings based on 2 games, as you are, is a nonsense.

[jacomo]

You said he was dreadful and that just wasn’t the case.

I agree he wasn’t streets ahead of anyone right enough. But if he had given the ball away inside his own box, like Mallan did for their goal, he’d be getting absolutely slaughtered. A Whittaker error seems to be magnified compared to others these days and you could feel that in the stands at the game today.

We do love a boo boy.

However, I’m sure SW has broad enough shoulders to cope with a bit of grumbling.

[Borderhibbie76]

Why do you think his errors are magnified? Is it personal, has Whittaker wronged everyone individually away from football? Or, is it possible that there is a lot more of them so people are less forgiving?
Nobody is picking on him, he’s a well like individual among Hibs fans. It’s just that he is struggling to play this level now.


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkIf you think Whittaker doesn't get picked on you haven't been to many matches of late?? Listen let's be clear on this I'm far from his biggest fan, I wasn't even first time around. I just thought he done well enough today and not deserving of some of the comments on here...he was the one driving us forward the last 10 to 15 today. Anyway I'm out for the night...this place is off it's nut tonight - going by some of the comments you'd think we'd lost 5 0 today.

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[jacomo]

Sorry but it is certainly not crap, to basically condemn the team & the potential end of season league placings based on 2 games, as you are, is a nonsense.


:agree:

We’re two games into the season, got a number of new players to integrate into the team and the transfer window isn’t even shut yet.

Obviously we have lost some real quality in midfield but the bed wetters can do one.

[blackpoolhibs]

You know Whittaker has come in and played this season all over the place, in some very ropey team selections and formations.

When we are up and running with what we will call our first 11, Whittaker will be a squad player, and a squad player who will come in when needed to a side thats at its strongest, and a side that will be full of regulars.

They will become more used to each other, and hopefully get results on a regular basis as last season.

When he comes in, there wont be such a disruption as we've seen this season, and i'm sure he will do just fine.

[Lago]

:aok:
:agree:

We’re two games into the season, got a number of new players to integrate into the team and the transfer window isn’t even shut yet.

Obviously we have lost some real quality in midfield but the bed wetters can do one.

[one day maybe...]

Lennon said he is not getting time to work with the players because the games are coming thick and fast. It’s been rest and managing players niggles. He’s happy that we are involved in all these games because that’s what top sides have to deal with. Unfortunately we are not quite there yet but hopefully we continue to strengthen the team & i’m sure Neil knows which parts need strenthened.
Enjoy the ride it’s good to be a Hibby right now. We have no divine right to win every game, that would be bloody boring if we did 💚

[B.H.F.C]

Why do you think his errors are magnified? Is it personal, has Whittaker wronged everyone individually away from football? Or, is it possible that there is a lot more of them so people are less forgiving?
Nobody is picking on him, he’s a well like individual among Hibs fans. It’s just that he is struggling to play this level now.


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The reactions around me today made it perfectly clear he is cut less slack than others. People calling him out as dreadful today? That’s a hell of an over reaction. Brilliant? Naw. But nowhere near dreadful or even the worst Hibs player on the pitch.

We also had the ironic cheering when he was subbed a couple of weeks back.

The funny thing is, I don’t think a single person on here would argue that he should be a first pick, me included. Criticism is fine when deserved but other than a few stray passes he didn’t do anything wrong today.

[JimBHibees]

Thread is hitching imo.

[Aim Here]

So were there any standouts today?

Efe put in about as good a performance from him as I've ever seen. I'd say he was the best player in a Hibs shirt today.

[Nicho87]

How did Horgan look guys?

[Pretty Boy]

Lennon said he is not getting time to work with the players because the games are coming thick and fast. It’s been rest and managing players niggles. He’s happy that we are involved in all these games because that’s what top sides have to deal with. Unfortunately we are not quite there yet but hopefully we continue to strengthen the team & i’m sure Neil knows which parts need strenthened.
Enjoy the ride it’s good to be a Hibby right now. We have no divine right to win every game, that would be bloody boring if we did 💚

Same as the SC season. We just don't have the squad/budget to compete on 2 or 3 fronts at the same time regularly. Something has to give. Our form thus far has actually been quite amazing considering how late the squad is being finalised (an observation not a criticism) and how many games we have played so early.

You only have to look at the issues Celtic appear to be having with their significantly favourable budget to see how tough it is.

[B.H.F.C]

How did Horgan look guys?

Showed enough to suggest he’ll be decent.

Played one superb pass which would have had Whittaker in one on one. The only problem was that Kamberi intercepted it.

[Danderhall Hibs]

Why do you think his errors are magnified?


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He signed for Rangers. :agree:

[Sir David Gray]

How did Horgan look guys?

Did fine without being spectacular. I think he'll be a good addition. Unlucky with one shot which deflected over the bar.

[hfc rd]

How did Hyndman play today?

[Sir David Gray]

How did Hyndman play today?

Fairly average to be honest. He had a few decent moments but flitted in and out of the game before he was subbed for Horgan.

[bodhibs]

This thread is bonkers, so much frothing and pant pishing. Was not great today but all things considered a good point. Folk need to chill tfo

[wookie70]

I thought Whittaker was very poor in the first half mostly due to constantly giving the ball away. He was much better as the game wore on. To be fair he was trying passes to advance us quickly butike McLaren he looks like be needs time on the pitch to get his rhythm

[mjhibby]

As long as we are in the europa league we will find it tough to play all these rapid games. Allied to mclaren getting up to speed and the new guys settling in it won't be plain sailing. Its a double edged sword. Win in Europe and we're all ecstatic, the club gains loads of dosh but we get stretched. Get knocked out by molde and we're peeved off but the squad will have time to recover from knocks and get everybody up to speed. I'm not too bothered about dropped points while we're battling in Europe. We're all loving the euro run. I doubt many of us envisaged us in our position four years ago. It's a long season so let's enjoy the roller-coaster.

[mjhibby]

Btw that's one defeat in our last 21 competitive games. Just thought I'd mention it.

[iwasthere1972]

Btw that's one defeat in our last 21 competitive games. Just thought I'd mention it.

Lennon out
Butcher in.

[flash]

To have this exciting wee run in Europe yet still keep kicking up points on a Sunday is pretty special and we should be proud of these guys.
Our manager has transformed this club and we should enjoy every minute we have of him.

[SirDavidsNapper]

How did Horgan look guys?

Thought we looked much more of threat when he came on