Oil Shaw

[Unseen work]

Looking forward to see how he progresses this year, certainly appears stronger and sharper.

Missed a couple of really good chances last couple of games but with a bit of match sharpness and confidence he will burry those. Always gets in good positions and his movement is very good.

Brilliant finish on his weaker foot last night

[Centre Hawf]

Looking forward to see how he progresses this year, certainly appears stronger and sharper.

Missed a couple of really good chances last couple of games but with a bit of match sharpness and confidence he will burry those. Always gets in good positions and his movement is very good.

Brilliant finish on his weaker foot last night

Look forward to seeing more of him again. His hold up play last night was a bit better than it was at times last year and he looked a bit stronger. Could do with being a bit more lethal in front of goal but saying that his finish last night was top drawer.

[Ozyhibby]

Def should have squared the ball for Murray last night. Progressing well though.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[sadtom]

Looking forward to see how he progresses this year, certainly appears stronger and sharper.

Missed a couple of really good chances last couple of games but with a bit of match sharpness and confidence he will burry those. Always gets in good positions and his movement is very good.

Brilliant finish on his weaker foot last night

Aye, he was looking slick. ;-)

[makaveli1875]

Cracking goal , looks like he works well with Flo . The most exciting young striker weve had since the Riordan/Fletcher days .

[Smartie]

His goal was a cracker.

The one on one he missed was a stinker.

He surprised and impressed me last year, looking forward to seeing more of him.

[hibbysam]

Def should have squared the ball for Murray last night. Progressing well though.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

And the one on Sunday he should’ve squared also. All well and good being greedy as a centre forward but when your partner has an open goal you’ve got to get your head up. Hopefully that’s drilled into him though.

[matty_f]

And the one on Sunday he should’ve squared also. All well and good being greedy as a centre forward but when your partner has an open goal you’ve got to get your head up. Hopefully that’s drilled into him though.

The main thing is that he's finding himself in these positions, the goals will come.

I'd be more worried if he wasn't getting into positions for great chances.

[truehibernian]

And the one on Sunday he should’ve squared also. All well and good being greedy as a centre forward but when your partner has an open goal you’ve got to get your head up. Hopefully that’s drilled into him though.

The one first half from SJM's pass ? I think he was quite right to have a shot on that occasion as he was through on goal and drawing the keeper out. Sometimes a striker does, as you say, need to play with their head up - but he is getting into great scoring positions and I'd be more worried if he wasn't scoring or being too hesitant in front of goal. One thing with Oli is he is a really confident lad who never allows his head to go down when he misses the target. His goal last night was excellent and his all round game is coming on no end.

You could also argue Flo could have slipped players in against Blackburn however he opted three times to shoot from distance outside the box. It's striker's mindset to score goals and often it's at the expense of that 'obvious' pass.

[B.H.F.C]

Shaw needs to believe he’s a first team player. I think he needs a bit more arrogance on the pitch.

I’m not sure about a partnership with Kamberi. They both like the ball into feet. I think we need someone up there who can stretch teams.

[KWJ]

Cracking goal , looks like he works well with Flo . The most exciting young striker weve had since the Riordan/Fletcher days .

Love Oli but he's a bit to go to be as good as Cummings at same age.

[BOB MARLEYS DUG]

Cracking goal , looks like he works well with Flo . The most exciting young striker weve had since the Riordan/Fletcher days .

Cummings?

[makaveli1875]

Love Oli but he's a bit to go to be as good as Cummings at same age.

Cummings came from hearts youth system . Also i disagree , Cummings didnt score in his 1st 20 games , that wasnt terribly exciting . Shaw scored a few in his 1st 20 including goals at hampden , against Celtic etc .. Plus a goal in his 1st european game

[Liberal Hibby]

Aye, he was looking slick. ;-)

You clearly know the drill. I thought his goal was a good platform for the rest of the season, to put it crudely.

[Onceinawhile]

If he is to be a back up striker this season, then that's good news, because he'll have improved and he was a decent back up last year.

Him and Simon Murray as Back up to Flo and Jamie Mac would be a huge improvement on Stokes, Murray, Shaw and Davey.

[neil7908]

The main thing is that he's finding himself in these positions, the goals will come.

I'd be more worried if he wasn't getting into positions for great chances.

Yup. Also, a lot to that decision making comes with experience and maturity. He will learn when to shoot and when to pass. If he keeps improving then we'll have some player on our hands.

[DetroitHibs]

Not quite ready to be our number two striker, but definitely has bags of potential. Having the reserve league back will help him tremendously.

[Smartie]

You clearly know the drill. I thought his goal was a good platform for the rest of the season, to put it crudely.

It's disappointing that people aren't exactly pumping out the puns, but fortunately I have a good few more in the pipeline.

[Hibee Mac]

Great potential I really like him. I am happy to have him as a back up striker, off the bench in most games this season and go from there.

Simon Murray needs punted he's not up to scratch and Oli has definitely jumped above him in position.

[Stevie Reid]

Great potential I really like him. I am happy to have him as a back up striker, off the bench in most games this season and go from there.

Simon Murray needs punted he's not up to scratch and Oli has definitely jumped above him in position.

I won't be too sad if he ends up going, but SM could be well utilised off the bench in games that we are winning. Is a great outball for us, and runs the channels really well. I don't think many defenders would enjoy him running at them.

He just can't take the ball into feet when we play our normal game, first touch is too often off, and too much breaks down at him. But he has very useful attributes all the same.

[Famous Fiver]

With a name like Oil he might have chances of a call up to the Saudi team.

Might even get a game for their under 16s!!!

[Liberal Hibby]

With a name like Oil he might have chances of a call up to the Saudi team.

Might even get a game for their under 16s!!!

Standard practice for them.

[LustForLeith]

I think he’d be world class if he had his own song.

[Arch Stanton]

I think he’d be world class if he had his own song.


Oil be there?

[jacomo]

Cummings came from hearts youth system . Also i disagree , Cummings didnt score in his 1st 20 games , that wasnt terribly exciting . Shaw scored a few in his 1st 20 including goals at hampden , against Celtic etc .. Plus a goal in his 1st european game


JC might have come from Hearts but Hibs gave him his opportunity.

[superfurryhibby]

Cummings came from hearts youth system . Also i disagree , Cummings didnt score in his 1st 20 games , that wasnt terribly exciting . Shaw scored a few in his 1st 20 including goals at hampden , against Celtic etc .. Plus a goal in his 1st european game

Cummings played 18 games in total during his first season, many of which were appearances off the bench for an appalling side. Cummings was signed from juvenile football, made his first team debut at barely 18 and went on to have a huge impact at ER.

Ollie has a long way to go before being compared to a cup winning hero.

[ahibby]

So is it now official that his nickname is "Slick" That reminds me so much of the IKEA Athens days for some reason.

[danhibees1875]

He's all the crudentials to succeed.

[CMac1988]

And the one on Sunday he should’ve squared also. All well and good being greedy as a centre forward but when your partner has an open goal you’ve got to get your head up. Hopefully that’s drilled into him though.

All too often our strikers have a chance to lay off the ball for an open goal but choose to go themselves. Something I'd like each striker to be more conscious of.

Am I right in thinking moments before Murray could've played him through but opted to go himself and ultimately lost the ball? I remember thinking at the time the only reason he hasn't played across is because he felt Simon done the same.

[jacomo]

Cummings played 18 games in total during his first season, many of which were appearances off the bench for an appalling side. Cummings was signed from juvenile football, made his first team debut at barely 18 and went on to have a huge impact at ER.

Ollie has a long way to go before being compared to a cup winning hero.


:agree:

Finally a bit of sense.

I’m excited about Oli Shaw, but the constant revisionism on here does my nut in.

Regardless of what he does or doesn’t do in the rest of his career, JC was great for us. To say otherwise is ridiculous.

[Arch Stanton]

:agree:

Finally a bit of sense.

I’m excited about Oli Shaw, but the constant revisionism on here does my nut in.

Regardless of what he does or doesn’t do in the rest of his career, JC was great for us. To say otherwise is ridiculous.

'constant revisionism' will always get you, won't it! In ways the Spanish Inquisition' won't, to be sure!

[Jones28]

Love Oli but he's a bit to go to be as good as Cummings at same age.

Cummings first season he didn't score apart from the playoffs I don't think?

Genuinely think Shaw is better. Better finisher, quicker, better decision maker and as he showed last night he can have a dig from distance.

[hibbysam]

The main thing is that he's finding himself in these positions, the goals will come.

I'd be more worried if he wasn't getting into positions for great chances.

I totally agree. And hopefully it comes with the experience. However, once your in the first team these are the big decisions you need to be getting right, especially when your missing the chances yourself.

[hibbysam]

The one first half from SJM's pass ? I think he was quite right to have a shot on that occasion as he was through on goal and drawing the keeper out. Sometimes a striker does, as you say, need to play with their head up - but he is getting into great scoring positions and I'd be more worried if he wasn't scoring or being too hesitant in front of goal. One thing with Oli is he is a really confident lad who never allows his head to go down when he misses the target. His goal last night was excellent and his all round game is coming on no end.

You could also argue Flo could have slipped players in against Blackburn however he opted three times to shoot from distance outside the box. It's striker's mindset to score goals and often it's at the expense of that 'obvious' pass.

Yeah that one, Flo was on the penalty spot with an open goal, as you say he had drawn the keeper out and the angle ended up fairly narrow as he was running in from the left corner of the box.

I also agree about Flo, I used to liken him to an amateur striker when he first signed due to these long shots, he’s not got a great strike on him from distance (too often drags and scuffs shots wide). Best to get these out the way now though and hope it all clicks again but early signs are positive if these are the gripes we have.

[Smartie]

Jason Cummings' spirit, attitude and goalscoring ability were central to our revival as a club, irrespective of whatever deficiencies he might have in his game, who he supported as a child or who he subsequently went on loan to.

He deserves a great deal more respect than he gets from some on here.

[Big_Franck]

Jason Cummings' spirit, attitude and goalscoring ability were central to our revival as a club, irrespective of whatever deficiencies he might have in his game, who he supported as a child or who he subsequently went on loan to.

He deserves a great deal more respect than he gets from some on here.

Agreed, and that's before we look at his record of goals against them. And the importance of those goals.

[BSEJVT]

Jason Cummings' spirit, attitude and goalscoring ability were central to our revival as a club, irrespective of whatever deficiencies he might have in his game, who he supported as a child or who he subsequently went on loan to.

He deserves a great deal more respect than he gets from some on here.

One of the best posts on here for a long long time

Absolutely 100% the case

[Elephant Stone]

Jason Cummings' spirit, attitude and goalscoring ability were central to our revival as a club, irrespective of whatever deficiencies he might have in his game, who he supported as a child or who he subsequently went on loan to.

He deserves a great deal more respect than he gets from some on here.

:top marks:top marks:top marks:top marks

[Iggy Pope]

Jason Cummings' spirit, attitude and goalscoring ability were central to our revival as a club, irrespective of whatever deficiencies he might have in his game, who he supported as a child or who he subsequently went on loan to.

He deserves a great deal more respect than he gets from some on here.

Spot on Smartie, spot on.

[ancient hibee]

Cummings record of a goal every 2games(approx)speaks for itself even if most were in the lower league.However he was very badly advised on his decision to leave and his choice of club.Quite a few of us predicted what would happen and his career has suffered.Hope Posh and he are good for each other.

[Arch Stanton]

Jason Cummings' spirit, attitude and goalscoring ability were central to our revival as a club, irrespective of whatever deficiencies he might have in his game, who he supported as a child or who he subsequently went on loan to.

He deserves a great deal more respect than he gets from some on here.

I don't think Cummings gets any disrespect on here - genuine discussion on his ability seems fair enough to me. You can actually be respectful without dishing out uncritical admiration.

Anyway, a long discussion about Cummings on an Oli Shaw thread is hardly respectful to Shaw, IMO.

[Iggy Pope]

I don't think Cummings gets any disrespect on here - genuine discussion on his ability seems fair enough to me. You can actually be respectful without dishing out uncritical admiration.

Anyway, a long discussion about Cummings on an Oli Shaw thread is hardly respectful to Shaw, IMO.

It's how it evolves unfortunately. In other news we have selling our top player of the past 4 seasons versus the merits of an indoor pitch.

[Hibernian32]

Cracking goal , looks like he works well with Flo . The most exciting young striker weve had since the Riordan/Fletcher days .

Cummings? Griffiths? Stokes?

[SRHibs]

Cummings? Griffiths? Stokes?

Griffiths wasn’t technically “ours” so it wasn’t quite the same, and I’m personally more excited about Flo’s potential than I was Stokes or Cummings. He’s exciting, but he also has a maturity about him. Flo has the potential to make us an absolute fortune if he keeps progressing like he has been.

EDIT: Oh he was talking about Shaw. In that case I agree, Shaw is exciting but very rough around the edges. Flo though. 😍

[Keith_M]

BP or Shell?