Autism facilities at ER

[Liberal Hibby]

I know a number of grounds now have a 'quiet' sensory space for fans with autism/Asperger's - does this include ER?

I've emailed the disabled Hibs fans group but haven't yet heard back from them - but I'm in Edinburgh the week of the 2nd Euro qualifying round and if we make it I'm thinking of taking my youngest who has Asperger's. Anyone know the answer?

Thanks.

[CallumLaidlaw]

I know a number of grounds now have a 'quiet' sensory space for fans with autism/Asperger's - does this include ER?

I've emailed the disabled Hibs fans group but haven't yet heard back from them - but I'm in Edinburgh the week of the 2nd Euro qualifying round and if we make it I'm thinking of taking my youngest who has Asperger's. Anyone know the answer?

Thanks.

As far as I’m aware, it’s something that’s in the works but isn’t in place just yet. @TamHibs would be the best man to answer.


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[TamHibs]

From my understanding, Hibs can't find a place for it inside the stadium which looks onto the pitch & Hibs don't want it turning into a creche type area for kids to be left whilst the parents go to watch the game.

Pretty poor from Hibs imo but what can you do :dunno:

[Galahibby]

Are the old hospitality boxes in the FF used for anything these days?

[RoYO!]

Are the old hospitality boxes in the FF used for anything these days?

Good shout. This is something I’d expect hibs to be pursuing.

[J-C]

Young lad that sits in front of me with his parents has Aspergers, generally sits with headphones over his ears listening to music during the game as it shuts out the noise of the crowd, seems to work just fine but I understand there's various levels that need more than just headphones.

[WhileTheChief..]

From my understanding, Hibs can't find a place for it inside the stadium which looks onto the pitch & Hibs don't want it turning into a creche type area for kids to be left whilst the parents go to watch the game.

Pretty poor from Hibs imo but what can you do :dunno:

I think the club are quite right. Parents expect someone at the club to look after their bairns whilst they watch the game?? Aye right then.

[MSK]

I think the club are quite right. Parents expect someone at the club to look after their bairns whilst they watch the game?? Aye right then.Apologies if I missed it but where is it said that parents expect the club to watch the bairns whilst the parents watched the game ?

[TamHibs]

I think the club are quite right. Parents expect someone at the club to look after their bairns whilst they watch the game?? Aye right then.

Clearly you know very little regarding a sensory room then. Nobody is asking Hibs to provide an area to leave their children to be looked after by someone else.

Fans with kids who have additional needs are looking for a sensory room to be installed so that their children can attend games & be able to see the game whilst not being overloaded with noise within the stadium, all in the presence of their parents. A sensory room is also to allow the child a safe haven to dull the noise if it gets too much for them whilst in their seat.

I for one am a parent of a child with Autism & all I want is to be able to take my son to the games and know that he doesn't have to be worried about sensory overload & that there is somewhere I can take him if it does get too much for him rather than "expecting someone at the club to look after my bairn"

[Liberal Hibby]

Clearly you know very little regarding a sensory room then. Nobody is asking Hibs to provide an area to leave their children to be looked after by someone else.

Fans with kids who have additional needs are looking for a sensory room to be installed so that their children can attend games & be able to see the game whilst not being overloaded with noise within the stadium, all in the presence of their parents. A sensory room is also to allow the child a safe haven to dull the noise if it gets too much for them whilst in their seat.

I for one am a parent of a child with Autism & all I want is to be able to take my son to the games and know that he doesn't have to be worried about sensory overload & that there is somewhere I can take him if it does get too much for him rather than "expecting someone at the club to look after my bairn"
Thank you. Well said.

[JIm]

Clearly you know very little regarding a sensory room then. Nobody is asking Hibs to provide an area to leave their children to be looked after by someone else.

Fans with kids who have additional needs are looking for a sensory room to be installed so that their children can attend games & be able to see the game whilst not being overloaded with noise within the stadium, all in the presence of their parents. A sensory room is also to allow the child a safe haven to dull the noise if it gets too much for them whilst in their seat.

I for one am a parent of a child with Autism & all I want is to be able to take my son to the games and know that he doesn't have to be worried about sensory overload & that there is somewhere I can take him if it does get too much for him rather than "expecting someone at the club to look after my bairn"

You need to speak to Ann Brown at the club who is heading all this up. She's only in part time but she also runs an autism charity so she will be able to direct.

For anyone who does have an autistic child who's Interested in football Team Utd are a great charity and the programme has grown massively over the lothians in the past 12 months. I only know this as someone who works specifically with them to deliver to your local community.

[TamHibs]

You need to speak to Ann Brown at the club who is heading all this up. She's only in part time but she also runs an autism charity so she will be able to direct.

For anyone who does have an autistic child who's Interested in football Team Utd are a great charity and the programme has grown massively over the lothians in the past 12 months. I only know this as someone who works specifically with them to deliver to your local community.

This is where the info re the sensory room & the fact there is nowhere for it to be placed came from at the open day a couple of weeks ago.

I will definitely have a look at Team Utd though, thanks for that :aok:

[CapitalGreen]

I’d be very much in favour of Hibs having an autism room developed at Easter Road.

In you’re earlier post you stated it was pretty poor from Hibs that they couldn’t find a place for in in the stadium at the present time. If it was up to you, where would you have the room?

[JIm]

This is where the info re the sensory room & the fact there is nowhere for it to be placed came from at the open day a couple of weeks ago.

I will definitely have a look at Team Utd though, thanks for that :aok:

No probs. I don't know personally what's happening In terms of a sensory room but we regularly take the kids along to games and just sit in comfy seats in west. That being said it's all about individual as you know and most who attend seem to cope. Good luck.

[TamHibs]

I’d be very much in favour of Hibs having an autism room developed at Easter Road.

In you’re earlier post you stated it was pretty poor from Hibs that they couldn’t find a place for in in the stadium at the present time. If it was up to you, where would you have the room?

As previously mentioned the old boxes in the FF, at least one could be used to be turned into a sensory room.

The East stand could also have been built with, not just a sensory room in mind, boxes that could be used to maximise revenues. People have complained regard BTG closing (although I believe that it has or is being opened temporarily in the FF), the East could have been also incorporated that when built.

[Skol]

We have got fans reps for this type of thing. Sure they will be in touch to help sort this out

[CallumLaidlaw]

We have got fans reps for this type of thing. Sure they will be in touch to help sort this out

Pretty sure Tracey in particular has been involved in the comma with this.


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[Pretty Boy]

I think the club are quite right. Parents expect someone at the club to look after their bairns whilst they watch the game?? Aye right then.

If Hibs build an exclusive lounge for folk who say things without engaging their brains or who appear not to have any sense of empathy then you'd qualify.

[Wilson]

If Hibs build an exclusive lounge for folk who say things without engaging their brains or who appear not to have any sense of empathy then you'd qualify.

I thought that was what the four stands were for.

[WhileTheChief..]

Hibs don't want it turning into a creche type area for kids to be left whilst the parents go to watch the game.

Pretty poor from Hibs imo but what can you do :dunno:

This is what I was referring to folks - the club’s view which I happen to agree with.

Nothing to do with autism or Aspergers.

[RoYO!]

This is what I was referring to folks - the club’s view which I happen to agree with.

Nothing to do with autism or Aspergers.

Who says it’s the clubs view. Sounds like hearsay to me. You’re also ignoring the posts clarifying the point that parents wouldn’t expect hibs to look after their kids.

[calumhibee1]

I thought that was what the four stands were for.

:greengrin

[Thecat23]

I think the club are quite right. Parents expect someone at the club to look after their bairns whilst they watch the game?? Aye right then.

You’ve had an absolute mare here.

[son of haggart]

I know a number of grounds now have a 'quiet' sensory space for fans with autism/Asperger's - does this include ER?

I've emailed the disabled Hibs fans group but haven't yet heard back from them - but I'm in Edinburgh the week of the 2nd Euro qualifying round and if we make it I'm thinking of taking my youngest who has Asperger's. Anyone know the answer?

Thanks.

PM me with details of when you are up, mate - I am back in Scotland permanently . Can't remember if I've told you before but my wife runs a charity supporting adults with autism/ aspergers into employment, it might be useful to meet up

[Kato]

You’ve had an absolute mare here.

Rarely has anything else.

[dangermouse]

As previously mentioned the old boxes in the FF, at least one could be used to be turned into a sensory room.

The East stand could also have been built with, not just a sensory room in mind, boxes that could be used to maximise revenues. People have complained regard BTG closing (although I believe that it has or is being opened temporarily in the FF), the East could have been also incorporated that when built.

That would have been a great opportunuity. Unfortunately, the "fans" view was it should be a single tier stand so that's what we got :grr:

[johnbc70]

My 7yr old son is Autistic and often asks to go to football. I remember this being mentioned about a year ago but then nothing. If I remember correctly Rangers have done it and it looks great.

[johnbc70]

I think the club are quite right. Parents expect someone at the club to look after their bairns whilst they watch the game?? Aye right then.

Such an ignorant post, maybe best stay out of things you clearly don't understand.

[WhileTheChief..]

Who says it’s the clubs view. Sounds like hearsay to me. You’re also ignoring the posts clarifying the point that parents wouldn’t expect hibs to look after their kids.

Geez. The ONLY point I’m making is in reply to be poster who talked about parents leaving kids in an area like a crèche.

That’s it. That’s all I’m responding too. I agree with the club, if that’s their view, as the poster stated.

I never said parents would do that. I never said that’s the club’s view. I even asked he point as a question and didn’t make a statement.

You all just read what you want to read though.

[WhileTheChief..]

You’ve had an absolute mare here.

Yeah its not going well!!!

[hibbyfraelibby]

Are the old hospitality boxes in the FF used for anything these days?

Is that not part of the NHS Hub project?

[traceyhibs]

Hi there,

This is something we took to the board last year after a few conversations with a parent who had lasted 10 minutes with his autistic son at a match. All he ever wanted to do was do the normal parent/child activity of going to the football.

Frank and I proposed to the board and the board felt that the community foundation would be best placed to look into this. The reason being that they are best placed when it comes to funding etc.. Frank and myself also met with the foundation to discuss. It’s certainly not been a No from the club or foundation but does require a lot of work should they be able to facilitate.

The lack of space at the moment is something which is a major issue. The FF boxes cannot be used unfortunately as the area up there requires renovation.

We also now have a Disabled Liaison Officer and after speaking with Frank this morning re this, Anne (our DLO) will be following this up with the Foundation.

It wouldn’t be a crèche facility if we can get something in place but a place as you’ve all suggested, where parents can take their children to watch the match in a safe and quiet environment. That’s what started the conversations in the first place.

Any further information I receive I will let you know.

Myself and Frank’s email addresses are:

tsmith@hibernianfc.co.uk

fdougan@hibernianfc.co.uk

Thanks

Tracey


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[hibbysam]

That would have been a great opportunuity. Unfortunately, the "fans" view was it should be a single tier stand so that's what we got :grr:

And I’m glad it was. Atmosphere would’ve been killed had that been a similar build to the West.

One thing I would be interested to hear is regards Tracey’s statement there about the FF boxes needing renovated. Could we get some clarity on what’s happening with that stand?

NHS - is it still going ahead?
Lift - is it still closed/need fixed?
BTG - will it be open etc?
Boxes - how long have they lay empty? Why haven’t they been renovated already? What does this ‘renovation’ entail? A lick of paint etc? Yes it may cost a wee bit but how much hospitality could we be missing out on?

[Liberal Hibby]

Hi there,

This is something we took to the board last year after a few conversations with a parent who had lasted 10 minutes with his autistic son at a match. All he ever wanted to do was do the normal parent/child activity of going to the football.

Frank and I proposed to the board and the board felt that the community foundation would be best placed to look into this. The reason being that they are best placed when it comes to funding etc.. Frank and myself also met with the foundation to discuss. It’s certainly not been a No from the club or foundation but does require a lot of work should they be able to facilitate.

The lack of space at the moment is something which is a major issue. The FF boxes cannot be used unfortunately as the area up there requires renovation.

We also now have a Disabled Liaison Officer and after speaking with Frank this morning re this, Anne (our DLO) will be following this up with the Foundation.

It wouldn’t be a crèche facility if we can get something in place but a place as you’ve all suggested, where parents can take their children to watch the match in a safe and quiet environment. That’s what started the conversations in the first place.

Any further information I receive I will let you know.

Myself and Frank’s email addresses are:

tsmith@hibernianfc.co.uk

fdougan@hibernianfc.co.uk

Thanks

Tracey


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Thanks Tracey

[JimboHibs]

Hi there,

This is something we took to the board last year after a few conversations with a parent who had lasted 10 minutes with his autistic son at a match. All he ever wanted to do was do the normal parent/child activity of going to the football.

Frank and I proposed to the board and the board felt that the community foundation would be best placed to look into this. The reason being that they are best placed when it comes to funding etc.. Frank and myself also met with the foundation to discuss. It’s certainly not been a No from the club or foundation but does require a lot of work should they be able to facilitate.

The lack of space at the moment is something which is a major issue. The FF boxes cannot be used unfortunately as the area up there requires renovation.

We also now have a Disabled Liaison Officer and after speaking with Frank this morning re this, Anne (our DLO) will be following this up with the Foundation.

It wouldn’t be a crèche facility if we can get something in place but a place as you’ve all suggested, where parents can take their children to watch the match in a safe and quiet environment. That’s what started the conversations in the first place.

Any further information I receive I will let you know.

Myself and Frank’s email addresses are:

tsmith@hibernianfc.co.uk

fdougan@hibernianfc.co.uk

Thanks

Tracey


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Not a dig,reading that back is that an admittance from the board/club that they are not willing to pursue due to cost ?

[Onceinawhile]

And I’m glad it was. Atmosphere would’ve been killed had that been a similar build to the West.

One thing I would be interested to hear is regards Tracey’s statement there about the FF boxes needing renovated. Could we get some clarity on what’s happening with that stand?

NHS - is it still going ahead?
Lift - is it still closed/need fixed?
BTG - will it be open etc?
Boxes - how long have they lay empty? Why haven’t they been renovated already? What does this ‘renovation’ entail? A lick of paint etc? Yes it may cost a wee bit but how much hospitality could we be missing out on?

It wouldn't, in fact we could have had since 1875 in the lower tier and the atmosphere would've improved massively.

Would be good to hear the answers to your questions above 👍

Out of interest, what needs to go into a sensory room? If it's for a safe and quiet environment, is it much more than insulation, or is there other requirements?

[traceyhibs]

Not a dig,reading that back is that an admittance from the board/club that they are not willing to pursue due to cost ?

I could see how that could be perceived from what I’ve written.

It’s not at all. The supporter I had spoken to regarding his son, did quite a bit of work re this and visited other clubs and big or small they all go down the funding route whether that be government funding or crowdfunding, hence the reason we spoke to the foundation about it as this is something they deal with on a daily basis.

Hope that makes a bit more sense now


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[traceyhibs]

It wouldn't, in fact we could have had since 1875 in the lower tier and the atmosphere would've improved massively.

Would be good to hear the answers to your questions above [emoji106]

Out of interest, what needs to go into a sensory room? If it's for a safe and quiet environment, is it much more than insulation, or is there other requirements?

I will answer the other questions as best I can but just to answer re the sensory room. It does need a room to be kitted out. It has to meet certain standards. Sorry don’t have my research/notes in front of me.


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[JimboHibs]

I could see how that could be perceived from what I’ve written.

It’s not at all. The supporter I had spoken to regarding his son, did quite a bit of work re this and visited other clubs and big or small they all go down the funding route whether that be government funding or crowdfunding, hence the reason we spoke to the foundation about it as this is something they deal with on a daily basis.

Hope that makes a bit more sense now


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Totally,thankyou.... anything the club can do regarding disabilities can only be positive 👍

[traceyhibs]

And I’m glad it was. Atmosphere would’ve been killed had that been a similar build to the West.

One thing I would be interested to hear is regards Tracey’s statement there about the FF boxes needing renovated. Could we get some clarity on what’s happening with that stand?

NHS - is it still going ahead?
Lift - is it still closed/need fixed?
BTG - will it be open etc?
Boxes - how long have they lay empty? Why haven’t they been renovated already? What does this ‘renovation’ entail? A lick of paint etc? Yes it may cost a wee bit but how much hospitality could we be missing out on?

Hi there,

I will answer these as best I can.

NHS - discussions still ongoing

Lift - this will remain the same this season. The lift really needs to be replaced

BTG - have been advised the first floor will reopen. Some bits and pieces being done to freshen it up. This should hopefully be ready for the start of the new season

Boxes - don’t have an answer for this but will find out.

The second floor needs a refurb and isn’t fit for opening at present.

The North Stand is a little tired looking. The club are looking at different ways to use the space whether that be the NHS as planned or something else.

I know that’s not lots of information but what I do know at present.

Anything further we will keep everyone posted.

Thanks

Tracey



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[Itsnoteasy]

[QUOTE=traceyhibs;5459529]Hi there,

I will answer these as best I can.

NHS - discussions still ongoing

Lift - this will remain the same this season. The lift really needs to be replaced

BTG - have been advised the first floor will reopen. Some bits and pieces being done to freshen it up. This should hopefully be ready for the start of the new season

Boxes - don’t have an answer for this but will find out.

The second floor needs a refurb and isn’t fit for opening at present.

The North Stand is a little tired looking. The club are looking at different ways to use the space whether that be the NHS as planned or something else.

I know that’s not lots of information but what I do know at present.

Anything further we will keep everyone posted.

Thanks

Tracey



Not a dig at you Tracey & I'm not a lift engineer. But these things work on a basic principle.
There are lifts at numerous high rise flats in Edinburgh & are the originals from day dot. If they ever break down they are always fixed. So I don't believe the club on this that it is beyond repair.

[hibbysam]

Hi there,

I will answer these as best I can.

NHS - discussions still ongoing

Lift - this will remain the same this season. The lift really needs to be replaced

BTG - have been advised the first floor will reopen. Some bits and pieces being done to freshen it up. This should hopefully be ready for the start of the new season

Boxes - don’t have an answer for this but will find out.

The second floor needs a refurb and isn’t fit for opening at present.

The North Stand is a little tired looking. The club are looking at different ways to use the space whether that be the NHS as planned or something else.

I know that’s not lots of information but what I do know at present.

Anything further we will keep everyone posted.

Thanks

Tracey



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Thanks Tracey.

In regards to the NHS I’m slightly confused. I thought a deal was in place? Therefore I’m struggling to understand how discussions are now taking place? Are the discussions back at square one regards the space or something else?

[traceyhibs]

[QUOTE=traceyhibs;5459529]Hi there,

I will answer these as best I can.

NHS - discussions still ongoing

Lift - this will remain the same this season. The lift really needs to be replaced

BTG - have been advised the first floor will reopen. Some bits and pieces being done to freshen it up. This should hopefully be ready for the start of the new season

Boxes - don’t have an answer for this but will find out.

The second floor needs a refurb and isn’t fit for opening at present.

The North Stand is a little tired looking. The club are looking at different ways to use the space whether that be the NHS as planned or something else.

I know that’s not lots of information but what I do know at present.

Anything further we will keep everyone posted.

Thanks

Tracey



Not a dig at you Tracey & I'm not a lift engineer. But these things work on a basic principle.
There are lifts at numerous high rise flats in Edinburgh & are the originals from day dot. If they ever break down they are always fixed. So I don't believe the club on this that it is beyond repair.


The parts are basically harder to get. I suppose it’s a bit like older washing machines, boilers etc and as parts become obsolete or harder to get you eventually have to move onto a newer model.

It also has a bearing on your insurance.

I’m not a lift engineer either but obviously just bits and pieces I’ve picked up on.


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[traceyhibs]

[QUOTE=May2116;5459869]Thanks Tracey.

In regards to the NHS I’m slightly confused. I thought a deal was in place? Therefore I’m struggling to understand how discussions are now taking place? Are the discussions back at square one regards the space or something else?[/

The discussions are ongoing. They haven’t just started. Apologies if I gave you that impression.

I know you are likely to want more information but unfortunately I am not involved in any discussions.


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[hibbysam]

[QUOTE=May2116;5459869]Thanks Tracey.

In regards to the NHS I’m slightly confused. I thought a deal was in place? Therefore I’m struggling to understand how discussions are now taking place? Are the discussions back at square one regards the space or something else?[/

The discussions are ongoing. They haven’t just started. Apologies if I gave you that impression.

I know you are likely to want more information but unfortunately I am not involved in any discussions.


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No, not at all, it’s just the initial announcement was two years ago now so very strange they haven’t progressed or been cancelled.