Summer transfer thread

[RN Hibee]

I must admit that there is a small sense of relief that comes with McGinn's departure, coming in to this transfer window I knew we would sell him but hoped it wouldn't be to Celtic (nothing against them originally I just think he's destined for bigger things) and this was only reinforced after the insulting offers they threw our way, not once or twice but on three occasions. The fact he has gone to a club that not only has the infrastructure to get back to the Premier League and stay there, it sounds as if he has been guaranteed significant game time which is what he needed more than anything else and I am excited to watch his career progress, I know for a fact I'm not finished following his journey and I'm sure many other Hibees are the same.

Looking at it from a Hibs point of view we now have a significant chunk of change which will hopefully allow us to do some serious business in the transfer market, I don't expect all of the fee we receive to go towards players but it would be statement of intent by the club to throw sizeable fee's at 1-2 players and really round out our squad for the coming season. Wouldn't mind Kamara as a start :aok:

[crieffhibee]

Sad to see McGinn go, but he’s had an amazing few years at hibs and will forever be a legend. Glad he’s gone down south and tbf Steve Bruce done a good job with Andrew Robertson when he went down to Hull so it could be a perfect fit.

Glen Kamara as a replacement for me.

[RobR27]

So, trying to look forward, who are the targets with the McGinn money.

Kamara
Mulumbu (free agent)
Allan
Maclaren permanent (400k next year apparently)

[tamig]

Time to get the cheque book out and BUY some players.

Never going to happen.

[MurrayfieldHibs]

It’s like watching yer own laddie leaving home, you’re proud of him setting out into the world, you’re hoping he succeeds and yes you’re a wee bit sad.

Go on son, show the world what you’re made of.

You have the ability, humility and hard work ethic to achieve all your dreams and I believe you will.

You’ll always have a place here should you miss us too much.

Thank you John, it’s been a tremendous pleasure to have watched you.

Spot on. Well said.

[Heisenberg]

Never going to happen.

Why? We’ve already signed a couple for good money this summer. Definitely need a McGinn replacement.

[GloryGlory]

Never going to happen.

Why not? We've already paid fees for Kamberi and Mallan, we have an option to pay a fee for Maclaren.

[Big L]

Rumour, Emerson Hyndman Bournemouth !

[houstonhibbee]

I must admit that there is a small sense of relief that comes with McGinn's departure, coming in to this transfer window I knew we would sell him but hoped it wouldn't be to Celtic (nothing against them originally I just think he's destined for bigger things) and this was only reinforced after the insulting offers they threw our way, not once or twice but on three occasions. The fact he has gone to a club that not only has the infrastructure to get back to the Premier League and stay there, it sounds as if he has been guaranteed significant game time which is what he needed more than anything else and I am excited to watch his career progress, I know for a fact I'm not finished following his journey and I'm sure many other Hibees are the same.

Looking at it from a Hibs point of view we now have a significant chunk of change which will hopefully allow us to do some serious business in the transfer market, I don't expect all of the fee we receive to go towards players but it would be statement of intent by the club to throw sizeable fee's at 1-2 players and really round out our squad for the coming season. Wouldn't mind Kamara as a start :aok:

Couldn't agree more. We are currently short of replacements for McGeough and McGinn to get back to where we were at the end of the season. Assuming Hyndman is in place of Scotty

[SRHibs]

Rumour, Emerson Hyndman Bournemouth !

Rumour: John McGinn to Aston Villa

[GloryGlory]

Rumour, Emerson Hyndman Bournemouth !

Rumour - already signed and announced! :greengrin

[CRAZYHIBBY]

Rumour - already signed and announced! :greengrin

Source?

[Big L]

Source?

Another site & Wiki.

[Big L]

Rumour - already signed and announced! :greengrin

Never seen it on here!

[HoboHarry]

Never seen it on here!
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/45121851

[147lothian]

It was announced on BBC Sportsound he's signed a 6 month loan deal

[GloryGlory]

Never seen it on here!

There's a separate thread and a thread with the official announcement, but things are fast moving at the mo so understand you could have missed it.

[tamig]

Why? We’ve already signed a couple for good money this summer. Definitely need a McGinn replacement.

Tongue was in cheek. Should have put a smiley in.

[GloryGlory]

Source?

Bleed Green! :wink:

[Springbank]

mulumbu or Kamara?

[A Hi-Bee]

Who knows who we may bring in but one thing for sure we will not just replace John McGinn, that would take millions, Neil has already said in his interview we will be looking at players with a view to a slight change in the way we will need to play in the future. In Neil I trust,
GGTTH
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[hfc rd]

mulumbu or Kamara?


Kamara but would take both 😊

[GloryGlory]

mulumbu or Kamara?

Either - both have attributes.

1) Mulumbu - great experience at EPL level. At 31, though, not much future value.

2) Kamara - good player. Still only 22, so good potential to develop and earn a good transfer fee in a few years.


I suppose it will come down to money and, possibly, if there are other clubs interested.

[Bristolhibby]

Old news deleted

[The_Horde]

Brandon Barker signed a loan deal with Preston North End.

J

Mcgeouch has left for Sunderland. All the best Dylan.

[Bristolhibby]

Mcgeouch has left for Sunderland. All the best Dylan.

Haha, beat me to it. I’m well off the pace tonight.

Just hope McGinn doesn’t sign for Celtic.

J

[Gordy M]

Sevco turn down 3 million for Tavernier from WBA.(according to SSN)

[Ozyhibby]

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Celtic blogger changing tune. [emoji23]


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[RN Hibee]

mulumbu or Kamara?

Kamara would be my preference for the obvious reason that he still has room to develop and could be sold on for a profit a couple of years down the line if he does the business.

[21sMay]

think we will see some movement for a centre half and foreign striker early next week now that the mcginn deal is done

[Souter96Mac]

think we will see some movement for a centre half and foreign striker early next week now that the mcginn deal is done

Who and who?

[Diclonius]

Are we even interested in Kamara?

[21sMay]

Who and who?

was just some info I had been given from a good source.
to be fair though that good source also told me we where signing a striker from the championship on loan a few weeks ago. never materialised according to him . he is normally spot on . no names yet but if he does I'll post them up

[Souter96Mac]

was just some info I had been given from a good source.
to be fair though that good source also told me we where signing a striker from the championship on loan a few weeks ago. never materialised according to him . he is normally spot on . no names yet but if he does I'll post them up
Suppose that would have been that Hiwula, who sounded close but chose a permanent move closer to home.

[21sMay]

Suppose that would have been that Hiwula, who sounded close but chose a permanent move closer to home.

I meant championship mate sorry . post edited

[heretoday]

Let's splash some cash and become a buying club for a change.

[CapitalGreen]

Let's splash some cash and become a buying club for a change.

We spent money on Mallan and Kamberi

[21sMay]

aside from what I've heard I'd like to see us bid for brothy at Kilmarnock . good all round striker who would suit our style. wouldn't mind us trying for Alan Forrest either

[Largshibby]

Let's splash some cash and become a buying club for a change.

Test Killie with £300k for Mulumbu and Jordan Jones.

[CapitalGreen]

Test Killie with £300k for Mulumbu and Jordan Jones.

Mulumbu is a free agent.

[B.H.F.C]

Test Killie with £300k for Mulumbu and Jordan Jones.

Mulumbu is a free agent.

[GloryGlory]

Test Killie with £300k for Mulumbu and Jordan Jones.

Mulumbu is a free agent.

[Gordy M]

Test Killie with £300k for Mulumbu and Jordan Jones.

Is Mulumbu not a free agent at the moment? I thought he had left killie?

[Springbank]

Test Killie with £300k for Mulumbu and Jordan Jones.

mulumbu is a free agent so no fee

[21sMay]

how much do you think killie would want for mulumbu

[Diclonius]

Test Killie with £300k for Mulumbu and Jordan Jones.

Mulumbu is a free agent.

[Ozyhibby]

Anyone know Mulumbu’s contract status?


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[madhatter]

If we aren’t looking at players like Kamara, and we’re going with Hyndman for now (McGinn “replacement”) I can see us returning to a midfield diamond. Not putting any of the players down but out of Hyndman, Mallan, Bartley, Slivka and Swanson we are hardly blessed with robust tacklers and I wouldn’t be confident with a midfield 3 (at the moment at least). Bartley is only one that stands out as a tackler. Moving to a diamond means extra bodies to flood the central area at least.

Tomorrow’s line-up is going to be interesting, I can see it being quite surprising, hopefully not as surprising as the line-up against Motherwell mind you (although I’d be content with the same result!)

[GloryGlory]

Anyone know Mulumbu’s contract status?


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Free agent.:greengrin

[Cabbage East]

Rumour on the PM board is that he might, might be a free agent.

[GloryGlory]

how much do you think killie would want for mulumbu

If we offered £300k, they would bite our hand off! :greengrin :aok:

[21sMay]

If we offered £300k, they would bite our hand off! :greengrin :aok:

worth every penny 😂😂

[CapitalGreen]

Maybe if we offer Kilmarnock an attractive sell on fee they’ll cut us a deal?

[Largshibby]

Is Mulumbu not a free agent at the moment? I thought he had left killie?

Didn't know he could be a freebie. Jones is defo worth a fee. Killie fans at work rave about them both and they're a hard bunch to please.

[ancient hibee]

Just occurred to me that there hasn’t been much in the MSM about Celtic knocking back £20M bids for Dembele.Yet we were assured that was what would happen.

[Diclonius]

We should offer Mulumbu 300k to sign him from himself.

[Walter]

Maybe if we offer Kilmarnock an attractive sell on fee they’ll cut us a deal?

Depends if he’s cup tied though

[Michael]

Heard in Greggs that we're offering Mulumbu £150k for Killie.

[The Modfather]

Does Mulumbu have any fitness concerns putting clubs off or is he just likely looking at all options for potentially his last contract? Surprised he’s not been signed by anyone yet.

[21sMay]

not a rumour whatsoever but.... I know for a fact that Leigh isn't best pleased at Celtic park at the moment .
from the horses mouth .... he does actually love it there and the fans but feels his time is coming to an end.
we couldn't afford him and unfortunately he couldn't afford to drop to our wages.
let's do a deal with the club guys. they pay the transfer fee and we will chip in with the wages 😉

[GloryGlory]

not a rumour whatsoever but.... I know for a fact that Leigh isn't best pleased at Celtic park at the moment .
from the horses mouth .... he does actually love it there and the fans but feels his time is coming to an end.
we couldn't afford him and unfortunately he couldn't afford to drop to our wages.
let's do a deal with the club guys. they pay the transfer fee and we will chip in with the wages 😉

Especially with all the bairns he's got. :greengrin

[Unseen work]

think we will see some movement for a centre half and foreign striker early next week now that the mcginn deal is done

Be surprised at that as imo they’re two of our areas not really needing improvement.

Kamberi, Mclaren, Shaw, Lewis Allan and Boyle able to play up top

McGregor, Hanlon, Ambrose, Porteous all very good options at centre back

Think we are desperate for a powerhouse in midfield now McGinn has left

[Diclonius]

Leigh will only come to us on a loan once Celtic have exhausted all other options. They'll want a fee for him and off their books permanently. Plenty Championship/League One clubs will be interested.

[Billychaotic182]

Been at work and no idea how far back id have to go to see, but do we know how much we got for SJM?

[Springbank]

is a free agent allowed an agent? or is the agent then cup tied?

[Unseen work]

Been at work and no idea how far back id have to go to see, but do we know how much we got for SJM?

Seems to be 3 million.

[The Modfather]

Be surprised at that as imo they’re two of our areas not really needing improvement.

Kamberi, Mclaren, Shaw, Lewis Allan and Boyle able to play up top

McGregor, Hanlon, Ambrose, Porteous all very good options at centre back

Think we are desperate for a powerhouse in midfield now McGinn has left

It’s not a priority but definitely think we could do with another CB. We only have 4 CB’s and normally play a back 3.

[21sMay]

Leigh will only come to us on a loan once Celtic have exhausted all other options. They'll want a fee for him and off their books permanently. Plenty Championship/League One clubs will be interested.

Leigh would be at Easter road in a new York heartbeat if we could afford him

[21sMay]

is a free agent allowed an agent? or is the agent then cup tied?

only if he isn't registered by to tonight 😊

[Diclonius]

Leigh would be at Easter road in a new York heartbeat if we could afford him

I don't disagree, unfortunately "afford" is the key word here.

[Joe6-2]

I don't disagree, unfortunately "afford" is the key word here.

We surely have a nice benefactor somewhere!!

[LeithMike]

It’s not a priority but definitely think we could do with another CB. We only have 4 CB’s and normally play a back 3.

... eh... but Whittaker can fill in at centre back.

[mjhibby]

Id be surprised if we ever get the actual fee correctly reported or confirmed by Hibs

Id almost guarantee we have a decent sell on clause - which could worth an absolute fortune in England


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I would think hibs would have been looking to clear £2m after St Mirren cut is paid. If their cut is say 25% then that sounds about right. I'm sure there will be add ons of appearances and if the get promoted and its likely that we'll get significant money for a while yet.Between the sjm fee and the europa run we must have got around £3.2m to £3.5m. It puts in a great position financially and I would hope there will be a top signing before the end of the window. Leigh maybe a bit fanciful but I'm sure with lenny contacts we can expect a top signing. Sorry to see sjm go but the club is in a position now nobody could have envisaged after we got relegated. The appt of stubbs and winning the cup have been the catalyst and lenny has taken us up a gear.

[21sMay]

on the whole. mcginn has been outstanding for hibs as a player, as professional and even when leaving . contributed massively on the park and off it and now has contributed massively to our bank account.
can't remember a player doing as much for the club as this man

[Cletus]

Allan Campbell
Chris Cadden
Glenn Kamara
Youssuf Mulumbu

😉

[Ozyhibby]

Great thing is that come 5.01pm tomorrow we no longer have to compete with any English clubs in the transfer market.



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[Danderhall Hibs]

Great thing is that come 5.01pm tomorrow we no longer have to compete with any English clubs in the transfer market.

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Can the Championship and League One teams still take EPL players in loan until 31/8 or do we have them all to ourselves?

[greenlex]

Can the Championship and League One teams still take EPL players in loan until 31/8 or do we have them all to ourselves?
Yes they can.

[Hibs4185]

not a rumour whatsoever but.... I know for a fact that Leigh isn't best pleased at Celtic park at the moment .
from the horses mouth .... he does actually love it there and the fans but feels his time is coming to an end.
we couldn't afford him and unfortunately he couldn't afford to drop to our wages.
let's do a deal with the club guys. they pay the transfer fee and we will chip in with the wages 😉

That isn’t such a bad idea...13,500 season tickets, at £1 a week each and we’re nearly there. If maybe even chip in £2 a weeek. Bring Leigh home

[houstonhibbee]

That isn’t such a bad idea...13,500 season tickets, at £1 a week each and we’re nearly there. If maybe even chip in £2 a weeek. Bring Leigh home

Id sign up to pay $10/ month for 3 or 4 years to get Leigh back at Easter Rd.....

[Borderhibbie76]

Be surprised at that as imo they’re two of our areas not really needing improvement.

Kamberi, Mclaren, Shaw, Lewis Allan and Boyle able to play up top

McGregor, Hanlon, Ambrose, Porteous all very good options at centre back

Think we are desperate for a powerhouse in midfield now McGinn has leftI don't think all is well with Big Daz and his knee issues tbh...guessing we will be signing another CB because of this. Don't think Daz will be as regular a starter this season...sadly

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[Lemonade]

I don't disagree, unfortunately "afford" is the key word here.

Whose place would he take ?

[My old man]

Id sign up to pay $10/ month for 3 or 4 years to get Leigh back at Easter Rd.....

Me also bring the boy home
GGTTH

[MacGruber]

Whose place would he take ?

You can't be serious? If fit 1st name on the sheet. I like Jamie MaClaren but he isn't in Leigh's league. Though great option when he is out injured

[My old man]

Some of the worst ideas become the best ideas

Can someone (with the know how) at least make a poll/whatever
To find out WHAT people would be willing to sign upto on d/d
I honestly think we’d be very very surprised

Admin please remove if inappropriate

GGTTH

[Greenworld]

That isn’t such a bad idea...13,500 season tickets, at £1 a week each and we’re nearly there. If maybe even chip in £2 a weeek. Bring Leigh homeThe more I read this the more i like it so simple

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[brog]

That isn’t such a bad idea...13,500 season tickets, at £1 a week each and we’re nearly there. If maybe even chip in £2 a weeek. Bring Leigh home

Great idea, we could maybe call it HSL!

[Beefster]

Some of the worst ideas become the best ideas

Can someone (with the know how) at least make a poll/whatever
To find out WHAT people would be willing to sign upto on d/d
I honestly think we’d be very very surprised

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GGTTH

If folk really want to help Hibs progress and have money spare to donate, they should sign up to HSL IMHO.

[My old man]

If folk really want to help Hibs progress and have money spare to donate, they should sign up to HSL IMHO.

I do Beefster

But surely HSL spend the D/D monies over lots of projects
This would be purely for Lennon’s war chest
In no way is it a dig at HSL

GGTTH

[CropleyWasGod]

I do Beefster

But surely HSL spend the D/D monies over lots of projects
This would be purely for Lennon’s war chest
In no way is it a dig at HSL

GGTTHThey don't.

They give the money to the club.

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[GloryGlory]

Are we even interested in Kamara?

If we were, I wonder if using Bartley and/or Swanson as makeweights might help the deal with Dundee?

Just saying likes.

[CentreLine]

:agree: The McGinn song should be retired as a mark of respect :not worth

After it is sung at 7 mins tonight?:hibees

[Diclonius]

Anyone think we might be waiting until the English window closes to reduce competition for domestic players?

[My old man]

They don't.

They give the money to the club.

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Exactly the club then buy shares ?? And give some to the
transfer kitty
My question was just to find out how much interest there was
To help fund Neil’s war chest
Similar to the anonymous “sugar daddies “ hertz and sheep have

If I’m wrong then I’m sorry but it’s just a thought

GGTTH

[Col2]

Right. Time to look ahead.

We need 3 players in my opinion:-

1. Powerful central midfielder - we won’t and can’t replace McGinn like for like but as been said Kamara or Malumba. We may need to push the boat out a fair bit but this is absolutely vital. Our top priority without doubt as the drive of McGinn cannot be underestimated. Mallan to some extent is replacing the loss of Dylan.

2. Scott Allan - I know we have Hyndman for 6 months and we have Mallan who can play attacking midfield and we have Swanson but Lennon will know if we get Scottie back we keep that Flo, McLaren, Allan dynamic with two pacey and effective wingers on each side. Again we have to get Scott Allan. I reckon Hyndman is here as some level of risk mitigation that we don’t get Allan in this window. And to be fair he is a more than decent player. But we need Scott Allan back now!!!

3. Central Defender - with Daz picking up injury and Efe always likely to have the odd flanger I think we need more cover. Porteous provides this but given we look like we will play with 3 centre half’s then we need 5 central defenders.

Departures: might see Swanson go out on loan but I think our squad numbers should be fine rather than offload if we get another 3 in.

[Crazyhorse]

Right. Time to look ahead.

We need 3 players in my opinion:-

1. Powerful central midfielder - we won’t and can’t replace McGinn like for like but as been said Kamara or Malumba. We may need to push the boat out a fair bit but this is absolutely vital. Our top priority without doubt as the drive of McGinn cannot be underestimated. Mallan to some extent is replacing the loss of Dylan.

2. Scott Allan - I know we have Hyndman for 6 months and we have Mallan who can play attacking midfield and we have Swanson but Lennon will know if we get Scottie back we keep that Flo, McLaren, Allan dynamic with two pacey and effective wingers on each side. Again we have to get Scott Allan. I reckon Hyndman is here as some level of risk mitigation that we don’t get Allan in this window. And to be fair he is a more than decent player. But we need Scott Allan back now!!!

3. Central Defender - with Daz picking up injury and Efe always likely to have the odd flanger I think we need more cover. Porteous provides this but given we look like we will play with 3 centre half’s then we need 5 central defenders.

Departures: might see Swanson go out on loan but I think our squad numbers should be fine rather than offload if we get another 3 in.

Is Hyndman coming in Lennon signalling that he thinks Slivka is not going to make the step up this season?

[Col2]

Is Hyndman coming in Lennon signalling that he thinks Slivka is not going to make the step up this season?

Don’t think so given it’s a 6 month deal. Slivka hasn’t nailed a perfect position for him in the team (yet) but he will play a part this season no doubt.

[CapitalGreen]

Is Hyndman coming in Lennon signalling that he thinks Slivka is not going to make the step up this season?

More likely thinking that we have lost McGinn, McGeouch and Allan and only brought in Mallan so far so midfield is a position needing strengthened.

[mjhibby]

Is Hyndman coming in Lennon signalling that he thinks Slivka is not going to make the step up this season?

No, I don't think so. Lenny will give him his chance till January I reckon. Hyndman is a very good addition to the squad.

[southern hibby]

Ladies and Gents,

I posted on Hibs net that a mate was very friendly with a member of SJM family and they were adamant that he would sign for Celtic. I also said several times that I was not sure if it was a fact or a wind up and that whatever it was my friend was sure the person telling them was being sincere and truthful.

I even phoned another member that posts on here yesterday before it became official he had signed for Villa, as my mate received a phone call from a member of SJM family saying that he was not signing with villa and letting the clock run down so he could still sign with Celtic. Well we now know the truth.

I also said on here that I hoped it was untrue that he would sign for Celtic and if he did I’d eat humble pie.

Munch munch munch humble pie well and truly being chewed on.

GGTTH

[J-C]

Is Hyndman coming in Lennon signalling that he thinks Slivka is not going to make the step up this season?


Different players.

[leither17]

We should hold off on Mulumbu for now and just sign him for nowt in January

[J-C]

We should hold off on Mulumbu for now and just sign him for nowt in January


Mulumbu is a free agent, are you meaning Allan?

[Callum_62]

We should hold off on Mulumbu for now and just sign him for nowt in January

:greengrin:wink:

[FifeHibs]

Emerson Hyndman had a decent goal return 4 from 13 league games for The Rangers, hopefully bangs some in for us.

[hibbie02]

From what I have seen of Jordan Jones at Killie, he looks like he could do a job for us. Admittedly I haven't seen that much of him (living dahn sarf) but what I have seen has been impressive. He seems to drive at defences and has a shot on him. Not sure if he is a tackler though. Would he be another pretty player or could he do a SJM role?

[calumhibee1]

From what I have seen of Jordan Jones at Killie, he looks like he could do a job for us. Admittedly I haven't seen that much of him (living dahn sarf) but what I have seen has been impressive. He seems to drive at defences and has a shot on him. Not sure if he is a tackler though. Would he be another pretty player or could he do a SJM role?

He’s an out and out winger, nothing like McGinn. I’d also imagine he’d be out of our price range.

[jonny]

From what I have seen of Jordan Jones at Killie, he looks like he could do a job for us. Admittedly I haven't seen that much of him (living dahn sarf) but what I have seen has been impressive. He seems to drive at defences and has a shot on him. Not sure if he is a tackler though. Would he be another pretty player or could he do a SJM role?

Jordan Jones is a winger, definitely not a ball winner. I agree that he's a cracking player though.
To be honest I'd imagine Killie would be looking for at least £1million for him, probably out with our budget.

[brog]

Ladies and Gents,

I posted on Hibs net that a mate was very friendly with a member of SJM family and they were adamant that he would sign for Celtic. I also said several times that I was not sure if it was a fact or a wind up and that whatever it was my friend was sure the person telling them was being sincere and truthful.

I even phoned another member that posts on here yesterday before it became official he had signed for Villa, as my mate received a phone call from a member of SJM family saying that he was not signing with villa and letting the clock run down so he could still sign with Celtic. Well we now know the truth.

I also said on here that I hoped it was untrue that he would sign for Celtic and if he did I’d eat humble pie.

Munch munch munch humble pie well and truly being chewed on.

GGTTH


Good on you & it's also good news for Celtc blogger James Forrest. If you remember the wee lamb was overly concerned that by turning down Celtc's derisory offer, RP was shortchanging Hibs shareholders. I must confess, as a shareholder, I was raging at The Tache when this was brought to my attention. I faced the dreadful prospect of my dividend being reduced from zero! I'm sure James will be along in a minute to praise Rod for his financial acumen & of course all Hibs shareholders can breathe more easily now.
As for SJM's family, I just don't think they understand! :wink: ( PS, his Dad certainly does understand ).

[BOB MARLEYS DUG]

Where do we still need to strengthen?

SJM replacement.
Another forward?
Cover for fullback?

Anymore?

[GloryGlory]

Where do we still need to strengthen?

SJM replacement.
Another forward?
Cover for fullback?

Anymore?

CB, especially if Daz is now going to be regularly injured and we continue to set up with three at the back. Couple of midfielders, as well. Back up FB and striker.

I still think we are 3-4 short of having a squad with enough quality in depth.

[GloryGlory]

More likely thinking that we have lost McGinn, McGeouch and Allan and only brought in Mallan so far so midfield is a position needing strengthened.

Also maybe we're looking at someone longer term, but he may not be available this window, so Hyndman is a bit of an insurance policy. I'm sure George Craig and Graeme Mathie are tracking players not just for this window, but for the next couple of windows, at least.

[Springbank]

Where do we still need to strengthen?

SJM replacement.
Another forward?
Cover for fullback?

Anymore?

I'd say a Mulumbu or Kamara is the key signing now, the ability to win the ball and recycle it to the [many] attacking options we have ahead and wide

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Efe/Porteous
Hanlon/Daz
Stevenson [with cover from Whittaker, Mackie]

Midfield
Defensive mids = Kamara/Mulumbu/Bartley/Slivka
Attacking mids = Mallan/Swanson/Hyndman

Wingers/Forwards
Boyle/Agyepong
Kamberi
Maclaren/Shaw

If we don't beef up the midfield we risk being overrun/losing the battle in there, so I'd throw all attention at Kamara/Mulumbu types myself, but, in saying that, loving the handiwork of Lennon/Mathie/Craig/Leeann in recent times and in Lennon/Leeann we trust!

[flash]

Mulumbu is two or three levels above Kamara and is a free agent.

[hfc rd]

I’m sure Dundee want £1M for Kamara. I’d definitely take him but can’t see us paying that sort of fee for anyone.

Maybe could negotiate the fee with them and probably throw in Swanson as part of the deal?

[makaveli1875]

Mulumbu is two or three levels above Kamara and is a free agent.

You have to wonder why he's still a free agent . Why are Killie not trying to sign him ?

[GloryGlory]

Mulumbu is two or three levels above Kamara and is a free agent.

Maybe, but Kamara is much younger and has more longer term potential to be developed and sold on for a good fee.

I suppose it's swings and roundabouts - Mulumbu has loads of experience at EPL level, so could be good for helping the development of our younger midfielders like Stevie Mallan and Fraser Murray.

[GloryGlory]

You have to wonder why he's still a free agent . Why are Killie not trying to sign him ?

He could be waiting to see if an English club comes in for him. We will know by 17:00 today.

Edit: Doh! He's a free agent - it doesn't matter! my bad.

[GloryGlory]

I’m sure Dundee want £1M for Kamara. I’d definitely take him but can’t see us paying that sort of fee for anyone.

Maybe could negotiate the fee with them and probably throw in Swanson as part of the deal?

I was thinking Bartley and Swanson could be makeweights in any deals we could be planning. I doubt Dundee will get £1 million cash upfront, but a buying club could put in add-ons so that they have the potential to get something further down the line.

[makaveli1875]

I was thinking Bartley and Swanson could be makeweights in any deals we could be planning. I doubt Dundee will get £1 million cash upfront, but a buying club could put in add-ons so that they have the potential to get something further down the line.

Tell me your joking :confused: He's the only proper defensive midfielder we have

[JeMeSouviens]

You have to wonder why he's still a free agent . Why are Killie not trying to sign him ?

They've tried. He wants more money. Seemingly he had more lucrative offers from France in January but stayed with Killie for the rest of the season because he had given Steve Clarke his word he would. I'd be surprised if he wasn't getting much better offers now than we can afford but you never know.

[GloryGlory]

Tell me your joking :confused: He's the only proper defensive midfielder we have

Not joking - I think we can get a better defensive mid and I think maybe Lennon is looking to do that.

[flash]

You have to wonder why he's still a free agent . Why are Killie not trying to sign him ?

Am sure they must have tried. This guy is English premier quality remember and won't be short of offers.

[J-C]

Where do we still need to strengthen?

SJM replacement.
Another forward?
Cover for fullback?

Anymore?


We have cover at FB with Blake and Mackie both capable of stepping, also Hanlon and Whittaker, we'll not get a like for like for McGinn so someone who is combative but skilful, Kamara of Dundee or Mulumbu.

[Ozyhibby]

After 5pm today Dundee will be very limited in the number of teams interested in Kamara. Their chance of getting any sort of fee at all will be gone at the end of this month.
There is a deal there to be done if we play it smart. £200k plus a significant sell on clause might be enough to tempt Dundee. I think they will want to sell him this month.
Even they know they are not getting £1m for him though.


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[Souter96Mac]

Seen someone on twitter mention we're looking at getting Ryan Gauld in on loan, aberdeen are also interested.

[Vault Boy]

After 5pm today Dundee will be very limited in the number of teams interested in Kamara. Their chance of getting any sort of fee at all will be gone at the end of this month.
There is a deal there to be done if we play it smart. £200k plus a significant sell on clause might be enough to tempt Dundee. I think they will want to sell him this month.
Even they know they are not getting £1m for him though.


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After all we've said about Celtic offering us disrespectful amounts for our star asset, I think it would be remiss for us to do the same to Dundee. Kamara is worth at least double, in fact probably triple that £200k suggestion.

[Springbank]

After 5pm today Dundee will be very limited in the number of teams interested in Kamara. Their chance of getting any sort of fee at all will be gone at the end of this month.
There is a deal there to be done if we play it smart. £200k plus a significant sell on clause might be enough to tempt Dundee. I think they will want to sell him this month.
Even they know they are not getting £1m for him though.


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Was interested to see the ex-St Mirren chairman yesterday praising Rod & Leeann on twitter for the excellent job they have done (for Hibs and St Mirren) in negotiating the SJM deal.

Would be a useful reference, if Dundee's board were to be presented with a similar offer & structure for young Kamara.

We're good for our promises...and everybody wins (except maybe Peter Lawwell, but that's for Lawwell to reflect upon)

https://twitter.com/StewartGilmour1/status/1027148979245666304

[bigswissstriker]

Seen someone on twitter mention we're looking at getting Ryan Gauld in on loan, aberdeen are also interested.

Seems like he’s lifted it from an article in Portugal that doesn’t mention hibs at all

[KWJ]

After all we've said about Celtic offering us disrespectful amounts for our star asset, I think it would be remiss for us to do the same to Dundee. Kamara is worth at least double, in fact probably triple that £200k suggestion.

Outright but not with a sell on as the poster suggested.

£200k would be what they'd take in January if they aren't in a relegation battle.

£200k and a 25%+ sell on could net them over a mil he did a McGinn.

[mcfly]

After all we've said about Celtic offering us disrespectful amounts for our star asset, I think it would be remiss for us to do the same to Dundee. Kamara is worth at least double, in fact probably triple that £200k suggestion.

Agree - we can’t have double standards

These forums have pages and pages of moans re Celtic low offers for John Mcginn

It would be wrong if us to try and do the same

[Ozyhibby]

After all we've said about Celtic offering us disrespectful amounts for our star asset, I think it would be remiss for us to do the same to Dundee. Kamara is worth at least double, in fact probably triple that £200k suggestion.

It’s not disrespectful at all. It’s probably as good an offer as they will get and could be a very good deal for them.
He has 1 year left on his deal so that affects the price just like it did for McGinn yesterday. That’s life.


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[Ozyhibby]

It’s not disrespectful at all. It’s probably as good an offer as they will get and could be a very good deal for them.
He has 1 year left on his deal so that affects the price just like it did for McGinn yesterday. That’s life.
It’s only disrespectful if we all go around telling anyone who will listen that we will just pick him up in January for nothing.


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[JeMeSouviens]

Agree - we can’t have double standards

These forums have pages and pages of moans re Celtic low offers for John Mcginn

It would be wrong if us to try and do the same

No, it would be wrong for us to greet and moan and act as if Dundee were being outrageous if they threw our cheeky offer out.

[Cabbage East]

Not joking - I think we can get a better defensive mid and I think maybe Lennon is looking to do that.

I think that's extremely harsh on Bartley. He's proved himself in big games.

[makaveli1875]

Agree - we can’t have double standards

These forums have pages and pages of moans re Celtic low offers for John Mcginn

It would be wrong if us to try and do the same

It wasnt the amount of Celtics offers that folk were bothered about ,it was their take our low offer or we take him for nothing attitude that wound folk up. Also their manager and captain publically discussing our player and getting the media whipped up into a frenzy about it

[Ozyhibby]

It wasnt the amount of Celtics offers that folk were bothered about ,it was their take our low offer or we take him for nothing attitude that wound folk up. Also their manager and captain publically discussing our player and getting the media whipped up into a frenzy about it

And their fans running about saying they will just get him for free in January.
If Dundee knock us back I couldn’t see Hibs fans acting like that.


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[flash]

So in summation we have:
Flo and JMac back.
Mallan for McGeouch.
Hyndman for Allan.
Agyepong for Barker.
Could see Swanson moving on with Hyndman arriving.
I reckon a replacement for SJM and maybe another striker to come in.

[Baw187]

So in summation we have:
Flo and JMac back.
Mallan for McGeouch.
Hyndman for Allan.
Agyepong for Barker.
Could see Swanson moving on with Hyndman arriving.
I reckon a replacement for SJM and maybe another striker to come in.

And Shaw and Porteous graduating to regular first team players. I know they were sniffing about last season but they’ll be better this year being that year older and wiser.

[GloryGlory]

I think that's extremely harsh on Bartley. He's proved himself in big games.

The big man's been a rock - but I just happen to think he's been fine for where we've come from, just think we need to look for better for where we want to go.

[greenlex]

https://fr24.com/BEE4EG/1d68c5da
I forgot to say the other night but at the exact time I. Clicked on this link the plane was passing overhead at Lexo towers. I could hear it as I was watching on the screen. Feels rather poignant now. I’m away for a greet.

[Vault Boy]

It’s not disrespectful at all. It’s probably as good an offer as they will get and could be a very good deal for them.
He has 1 year left on his deal so that affects the price just like it did for McGinn yesterday. That’s life.


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I'd be delighted if Dundee are happy to sell us Kamara for £200k + a sell on percentage, but I can't see it at all. A year left on a contract certainly effects the expected value of a player, but 1/5th of their asking price is a pipe dream IMO (as is them getting £1m at this stage).

Just opinions though obviously, none of us really know what kind of money we'd be dealing with if we are after Kamara - which I certainly hope we are.

[IWasThere2016]

I'd be delighted if Dundee are happy to sell us Kamara for £200k + a sell on percentage, but I can't see it at all. A year left on a contract certainly effects the expected value of a player, but 1/5th of their asking price is a pipe dream IMO (as is them getting £1m at this stage).

Just opinions though obviously, none of us really know what kind of money we'd be dealing with if we are after Kamara - which I certainly hope we are.

:agree: Will never happen

[Greenworld]

I'd be delighted if Dundee are happy to sell us Kamara for £200k + a sell on percentage, but I can't see it at all. A year left on a contract certainly effects the expected value of a player, but 1/5th of their asking price is a pipe dream IMO (as is them getting £1m at this stage).

Just opinions though obviously, none of us really know what kind of money we'd be dealing with if we are after Kamara - which I certainly hope we are.I agree dundee won't sell at that 400k tomorrow however might prove more tempting I'm not sure how they value him at 1m in the first place.


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[Winston Ingram]

I think that's extremely harsh on Bartley. He's proved himself in big games.

This. Always steps up in the big games.

He's great in the lesser games as well. Superb on Sunday and the team looked far more solid with him in it.

[Ozyhibby]

I agree dundee won't sell at that 400k tomorrow however might prove more tempting I'm not sure how they value him at 1m in the first place.


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Exactly, where does the £1m come from? And with no English clubs in the frame that only leaves Celtic and Rangers from these shores at that price. Possible foreign interest but it may be limited. They have zero chance of getting £1m.


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[Thistlecrack]

After the EPL window shuts we should offer Dundee £500,000+20% sell on or £500,000+Swanson+10% sell on. Also like Maginnes from St Mirren. Only 19 and could possibly get him for a reasonable price + sell on fee. Similar type of player as Mcginn

[Souter96Mac]

After the EPL window shuts we should offer Dundee £500,000+20% sell on or £500,000+Swanson+10% sell on. Also like Maginnes from St Mirren. Only 19 and could possibly get him for a reasonable price + sell on fee. Similar type of player as Mcginn

If we were offering Swanson, Id say we drop the figure to around 350/400k with a sell on.

[Mitch9]

Is it my paranoia? Have I missed something? Where is Rocky? Why isn’t he registered!

https://www.uefa.com/uefaeuropaleague/season=2019/clubs/club=52821/squad/

[Joe6-2]

Mulumbu is two or three levels above Kamara and is a free agent.

Why hasn’t he been snapped up?

Edit: sorry, just read previous posts

[HibbyScott]

Is it my paranoia? Have I missed something? Where is Rocky? Why isn’t he registered!

https://www.uefa.com/uefaeuropaleague/season=2019/clubs/club=52821/squad/

I would guess because there's a finite number of players we can register for the Europa League games, so it makes no sense to register an injured player who's guaranteed to play no part in the fixture. Then freeing up space in the number of players we can register for someone else.

At least that's what I do in Football Manager :greengrin

[Onceinawhile]

Is it my paranoia? Have I missed something? Where is Rocky? Why isn’t he registered!

https://www.uefa.com/uefaeuropaleague/season=2019/clubs/club=52821/squad/

Because he won't be fit unless we reach the groups.

[Jack Hackett]

Are we even interested in Kamara?

I had a google to see if any stories linked us with him and came up with zilch. It's like Football Manager on here at times, with random names thrown up which grow arms and legs, and we end up advising the board on how much to offer

[bingo70]

Is it my paranoia? Have I missed something? Where is Rocky? Why isn’t he registered!

https://www.uefa.com/uefaeuropaleague/season=2019/clubs/club=52821/squad/

Maybe just isn't registered as not fit to play in these rounds anyway?

[CapitalGreen]

I forgot to say the other night but at the exact time I. Clicked on this link the plane was passing overhead at Lexo towers. I could hear it as I was watching on the screen. Feels rather poignant now. I’m away for a greet.

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/61Vg6-k2ytL._SX425_.jpg

[Ozyhibby]

I had a google to see if any stories linked us with him and came up with zilch. It's like Football Manager on here at times, with random names thrown up which grow arms and legs, and we end up advising the board on how much to offer

There is no evidence at all we are after him. I think we should be though or someone very like him. He is the type of player we need. That’s why I mention him.


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[Hibbyradge]

It wasnt the amount of Celtics offers that folk were bothered about ,it was their take our low offer or we take him for nothing attitude that wound folk up. Also their manager and captain publically discussing our player and getting the media whipped up into a frenzy about it

It was all those things.

Remember, people kept saying that they got £7m for Armstrong so they should stump up for SJM.

[greenlex]

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/61Vg6-k2ytL._SX425_.jpg

I can’t help it. It’s gonna take a while.

[FilipinoHibs]

It was all those things.

Remember, people kept saying that they got £7m for Armstrong so they should stump up for SJM.

Aye right up you Celtic. We wont be bullied anymore.

[Togs91]

https://www.uefa.com/uefaeuropaleagu...b=52821/squad/

I take it from this link we managed to get emerson signed up for tonights game via the wildcard route?

[CapitalGreen]

It was all those things.

Remember, people kept saying that they got £7m for Armstrong so they should stump up for SJM.

Remember, you kept saying John McGinn was only worth £1.5m because that was the only offer we had received for him.

[WhileTheChief..]

I do Beefster

But surely HSL spend the D/D monies over lots of projects
This would be purely for Lennon’s war chest
In no way is it a dig at HSL

GGTTH

From day one of HSL they’ve been crystal clear that all funds receive go to the club to help Lennon.

Years down he line and we still have folk asking what the cash is spent on!

[Speedway]

Because he won't be fit unless we reach the groups.

So if we don’t reach the groups, he’ll never be fit?

Jeezo, that’s brutal.

[WhileTheChief..]

Agree - we can’t have double standards

These forums have pages and pages of moans re Celtic low offers for John Mcginn

It would be wrong if us to try and do the same

It’s exactly what we should be doing! Why would we offer more than we think a player is worth?

Celtic did nothing wrong. They just didn’t offer enough.

[Ozyhibby]

https://thecelticblog.com/2018/08/blogs/who-is-the-board-member-who-briefed-against-our-manager-last-night/

Definite change in attitude from the ‘there will be only one winner between Lawell and Petrie’.


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[Frazerbob]

From day one of HSL they’ve been crystal clear that all funds receive go to the club to help Lennon.

Years down he line and we still have folk asking what the cash is spent on!

So we must conclude the HSL need to up their marketing game.

[Unseen work]

Celtic done nothing wrong putting in a low bid for McGinn.

Where they went wrong was not upping it enough and quick enough.

Also by trying to put us under pressure by it being their “final offer” and the arrogance of “we will just take him for free in a couple of months”

[Onceinawhile]

So if we don’t reach the groups, he’ll never be fit?

Jeezo, that’s brutal.

:top marks

[Paisley Hibby]

https://thecelticblog.com/2018/08/blogs/who-is-the-board-member-who-briefed-against-our-manager-last-night/

Definite change in attitude from the ‘there will be only one winner between Lawell and Petrie’.


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Do all Celtic Fans who write blogs have the same superiority complex? I've certainly not come across any without it. My wee concern is the suggestion that all is not well between Brenda and the Board. If he suddenly walks and they need a new manager quickly who might they go for......

[CockneyRebel]

So we must conclude the HSL need to up their marketing game.


They put out plenty of stuff, you just need to read it.

[southsider]

https://thecelticblog.com/2018/08/blogs/who-is-the-board-member-who-briefed-against-our-manager-last-night/

Definite change in attitude from the ‘there will be only one winner between Lawell and Petrie’.


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Exept it was Lawell and our CEO Leann. One winner right enough. Tough lady.

[Ralphy C]

The big man's been a rock - but I just happen to think he's been fine for where we've come from, just think we need to look for better for where we want to go.

Reminds me of Alex Mcleish thinking he could get better than Stuart Lovell.

[brog]

https://thecelticblog.com/2018/08/blogs/who-is-the-board-member-who-briefed-against-our-manager-last-night/

Definite change in attitude from the ‘there will be only one winner between Lawell and Petrie’.


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That's the same guy, James Forrest, who told us The Tache had a fiduciary duty to Hibs Shareholders to accept Celtc's low ball bid! Dick!

[Diclonius]

There's a photo doing the rounds of an unknown player at training, a guy on FB claims it's a Swiss winger on trial.

[Hibbyradge]

Remember, you kept saying John McGinn was only worth £1.5m because that was the only offer we had received for him.

Really?

You think that was my point?

[Hibbyradge]

So if we don’t reach the groups, he’ll never be fit?

Jeezo, that’s brutal.

:faf:

[CapitalGreen]

Really?

You think that was my point?

Go on then, clarify your point, I'm sure everyone is dying to hear it again.

[J-C]

Lewis Fraser the Mons Calpe( Gibraltar ) U 23 coach is tweeting that we are after Ryan Gould on loan, Aberdeen want him permanent but Sporting only want a loan deal, interesting.


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Hibs are in talks with Sporting Lisbon over the possible loan deal of Ryan Gauld. Aberdeen want the player on a permanent deal however SL would prefer the player go out on loan.

[CapitalGreen]

There's a photo doing the rounds of an unknown player at training, a guy on FB claims it's a Swiss winger on trial.

The polite thing to do would be to post a link to said picture so internet sleuths such as myself can waste our afternoons trying and ultimately failing to identify who the player is.

[Jack Hackett]

There is no evidence at all we are after him. I think we should be though or someone very like him. He is the type of player we need. That’s why I mention him.


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Wasn't a dig Ozy. Just a generalisation and example of how mental this place gets during the window. People tend to forget that they are just random suggestions, and when whoever is being discussed ends up going elsewhere, we've 'missed out' when we actually weren't interested... and yeah, he is the kind of player we need :greengrin

[Heisenberg]

Lewis Fraser the Mons Calpe( Gibraltar ) U 23 coach is tweeting that we are after Ryan Gould on loan, Aberdeen want him permanent but Sporting only want a loan deal, interesting.

Would be a weird move. Don’t see any need for him with the squad we currently have and the signing of Hyndman yesterday.

[500miles]

Looking at Hyndman's stats, I think he might be a bit more aggressive and steely than first believed.

[GloryGlory]

The polite thing to do would be to post a link to said picture so internet sleuths such as myself can waste our afternoons trying and ultimately failing to identify who the player is.

https://twitter.com/StephenK1875/status/1027531834593353731

There you go.

[Springbank]

Looks like the mighty Alen Orman with shorter hair (time catches up with us all)

[SRHibs]

The polite thing to do would be to post a link to said picture so internet sleuths such as myself can waste our afternoons trying and ultimately failing to identify who the player is.

This is a pet peeve of mine. It seems to be a Hibs.net thing to reference something (a picture/video/link) then just not direct to it. Is it really that difficult to also post the media that you’re discussing?

[Speedway]

Looking at Hyndman's stats, I think he might be a bit more aggressive and steely than first believed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kFQhqH1j0I

The boy looks a player.

[J-C]

Looking at Hyndman's stats, I think he might be a bit more aggressive and steely than first believed.


On Football Manager he's seen as a deep playmaker, I had a wee look this morning, probably similar to Mallan, can play a bit in all positions in midfield. I think what Lennon is after are midfielders that can move around and be comfortable anywhere in the midfield, McGinn was perfect at it, defend, pass and attack, he did it all.

[J-C]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kFQhqH1j0I

The boy looks a player.


Going by that he's a direct replacement for Allan.

[ian cruise]

Looking at Hyndman's stats, I think he might be a bit more aggressive and steely than first believed.

Mate who is a big rangers fans described him as "box to box midfielder with a solid final ball". I'm looking forward to seeing him play.

[Jack Hackett]

Would be a weird move. Don’t see any need for him with the squad we currently have and the signing of Hyndman yesterday.

Indeed. He's 22 now, and hasn't made the impact that was expected. He might still be a prospect, and being sent back here could be what he needs to get back on course... or maybe he's just one of those youngsters who peak early and disappear into obscurity

[erin go bragh]

Lewis Fraser the Mons Calpe( Gibraltar ) U 23 coach is tweeting that we are after Ryan Gould on loan, Aberdeen want him permanent but Sporting only want a loan deal, interesting.


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Hibs are in talks with Sporting Lisbon over the possible loan deal of Ryan Gauld. Aberdeen want the player on a permanent deal however SL would prefer the player go out on loan.


Another quality player . Would be a good bit of business if we get him .

[Hibbyradge]

Go on then, clarify your point, I'm sure everyone is dying to hear it again.

Well, obviously you want to hear it again.

A player is worth to the sellers exactly as much as a buyer is willing to pay for him.

That's why I used the house selling analogy.

You might think your house is worth £300k, but if the best offer you receive is only £250k, then that's its worth.

Same applies to cars, jewellery or football players.

Folk were saying SJM was worth X,y or z because such and such a player had been sold for a huge amount.

All of that is irrelevant. His financial worth to Hibs us what we can get for him, whether that was £1.5m, £2.1m or £4m.

Dundee think Kanara is worth £1m. Some folk want us to offer £200k. How much is he worth?

[SRHibs]

Well, obviously you want to hear it again.

A player is worth to the sellers exactly as much as a buyer is willing to pay for him.

That's why I used the house selling analogy.

You might think your house is worth £300k, but if the best offer you receive is only £250k, then that's its worth.

Same applies to cars, jewellery or football players.

Folk were saying SJM was worth X,y or z because such and such a player had been sold for a huge amount.

All of that is irrelevant. His financial worth to Hibs us what we can get for him, whether that was £1.5m, £2.1m or £4m.

Dundee think Kanara is worth £1m. Some folk want us to offer £200k. How much is he worth?

But you get a house valuation from a professional, who gives it a financial value based on numerous objective factors. If you get no bids for your house, but a homeless guy offers to buy it for a fiver, that is not a true representation of its worth.

I obviously understand what you’re saying, I just think the terminology isn’t right. Financial worth and what someone is willing to pay aren’t the same thing IMO. At least it’s not as simple as that.

[MB62]

Just read on Hibsnews on twitter that we are trying to bring Ryan Gauld to Eater Road on loan. Apparently Aberdeen are also interested but want a permanent deal which Sporting Lisbon are not interested in.

[Springbank]

Heard Windass is away from Rangers to Wigan for £2m

IMHO he couldn't lace McGeouch's boots or SJM's post-CupFinal vodkas, how the hell are they getting a seven figure sum for that muppet?

[Hibbyradge]

But you get a house valuation from a professional, who gives it a financial value based on numerous objective factors. If you get no bids for your house, but a homeless guy offers to buy it for a fiver, that is not a true representation of its worth.

I obviously understand what you’re saying, I just think the terminology isn’t right. Financial worth and what someone is willing to pay aren’t the same thing IMO. At least it’s not as simple as that.

I don't know how to phrase it any better.

If the best offer we got for SJM last night was £2.75m, as reported, then that's what he was worth to us.

Villa may have got a bargain, but I'm not concerned about them.

Maybe one of the accountancy guys will be able to help with the semantics. :greengrin

[The_Horde]

Heard Windass is away from Rangers to Wigan for £2m

IMHO he couldn't lace McGeouch's boots or SJM's post-CupFinal vodkas, how the hell are they getting a seven figure sum for that muppet?

Windass is a good player. Easily worth 2m.

[jax67]

https://twitter.com/StephenK1875/status/1027531834593353731

There you go.

Is that not Ivan Lendric who was trialling with us a few weeks back?
Just a guess.

[J-C]

Is that not Ivan Lendric who was trialling with us a few weeks back?
Just a guess.


It'll be an old pic from when he was on trial and someone has decided to post it up now.

[Joe6-2]

Just read on Hibsnews on twitter that we are trying to bring Ryan Gauld to Eater Road on loan. Apparently Aberdeen are also interested but want a permanent deal which Sporting Lisbon are not interested in.

Are we hungry enough tho? 😉

[The_Horde]

Is that not Ivan Lendric who was trialling with us a few weeks back?
Just a guess.

Don't think that's him but I could be wrong.

[jax67]

It'll be an old pic from when he was on trial and someone has decided to post it up now.

Now you’ve said that, that’s probably how it is.👍

[Dazzjw1875]

That's not lendric.

[Diclonius]

It's Florian Berisha. He's the only Swiss attacking midfielder without a club on transfermarkt and looks the same as the guy in the photo.

http://www.tablesleague.com/players/37199_florian_berisha_1.jpg

[jax67]

That's not lendric.

Your right, just googled him and it’s nowt like him.

[jax67]

It's Florian Berisha. He's the only Swiss attacking midfielder without a club on transfermarkt and looks the same as the guy in the photo.

http://www.tablesleague.com/players/37199_florian_berisha_1.jpg

That’s the fellow!

[yerauldda]

It's Florian Berisha. He's the only Swiss attacking midfielder without a club on transfermarkt and looks the same as the guy in the photo.

http://www.tablesleague.com/players/37199_florian_berisha_1.jpg

Flo flo flo flo flo flo flo flo flo flo BERISHA!!!
Flo flo flo flo flo flo flo flo flo flo KAMBERI!!!

[J-C]

It's Florian Berisha. He's the only Swiss attacking midfielder without a club on transfermarkt and looks the same as the guy in the photo.

http://www.tablesleague.com/players/37199_florian_berisha_1.jpg

Now he was mentioned a lot of pages back on this thread, we were speculating over who the other Grasshopper player may be available when Flo was coming and his name was there with a couple of others, same agent as Flo seemingly, interesting time ahead. With all the attack minded player we're after/signing it looks like Lennon is trying to emulate the Famous 5 set up of all out attack and score more than the opposition. :thumbsup:

[makaveli1875]

It's Florian Berisha. He's the only Swiss attacking midfielder without a club on transfermarkt and looks the same as the guy in the photo.

http://www.tablesleague.com/players/37199_florian_berisha_1.jpg

thats not the guy in the photo , his nose is twice the size and they have completly different hair line and the guy in the photo has no ear rings

[Springbank]

Now he was mentioned a lot of pages back on this thread, we were speculating over who the other Grasshopper player may be available when Flo was coming and his name was there with a couple of others, same agent as Flo seemingly, interesting time ahead. With all the attack minded player we're after/signing it looks like Lennon is trying to emulate the Famous 5 set up of all out attack and score more than the opposition. :thumbsup:

Five all and Six Four is the new norm

Craig Levein will be a goatee bearded mess when he turns up with his 1997 tactics

[Sean1875]

Now he was mentioned a lot of pages back on this thread, we were speculating over who the other Grasshopper player may be available when Flo was coming and his name was there with a couple of others, same agent as Flo seemingly, interesting time ahead. With all the attack minded player we're after/signing it looks like Lennon is trying to emulate the Famous 5 set up of all out attack and score more than the opposition. :thumbsup:

Should just go complete mirror of Potters infamous formation and go for a 6 strikers, 4 midfielders and 0 defenders approach :greengrin

[Unseen work]

It's Florian Berisha. He's the only Swiss attacking midfielder without a club on transfermarkt and looks the same as the guy in the photo.

http://www.tablesleague.com/players/37199_florian_berisha_1.jpg

If it is him that’s unbelievable from you. Not convinced however.

[Smartie]

Are we hungry enough tho? 😉

I thought you'd get a few more bites from this one.

[Unseen work]

Who is it infront of Scotty Martin in that picture? Looks like Andy Shinnie but clearly it won’t be him

[Speedway]

Who is it infront of Scotty Martin in that picture? Looks like Andy Shinnie but clearly it won’t be him

Is it not Efe?

[J-C]

Haha our friend HibsTransferNews on Twitter has pinched this off here and said on the Hibs player pic that it's rumoured to be Berisha, just 3 minutes after being posted here, must be a new record for the Marley Dug guy

[Unseen work]

Is it not Efe?

Must have some plastic surgeon if it is.

[J-C]

Who is it infront of Scotty Martin in that picture? Looks like Andy Shinnie but clearly it won’t be him


Looks like Boyle

[IAmLee]

Who is it infront of Scotty Martin in that picture? Looks like Andy Shinnie but clearly it won’t be him

Boyle?

[Unseen work]

Yes might be Boyle! That hair transplant is clearly coming together now!

[IAmLee]

Yes might be Boyle! That hair transplant is clearly coming together now!

The true test will be when it rains, Stokesy used to get a visible line across his head when his hair got wet :tee hee:

[brianmc]

The guy in front of Kamberi looks like Danny Swanson with a short back n sides to me.

[Billy Whizz]

Windass is a good player. Easily worth 2m.

Rangers will miss his goals too

[Caversham Green]

I don't know how to phrase it any better.

If the best offer we got for SJM last night was £2.75m, as reported, then that's what he was worth to us.

Villa may have got a bargain, but I'm not concerned about them.

Maybe one of the accountancy guys will be able to help with the semantics. :greengrin

Well, since you ask...(given your reaction on the other thread, you'll need to strap yourself in for this one)

I disagree with your second sentence - the £2,75m could legitimately be called the market value, but if keeping McGinn could be guaranteed to bring in extra gate money and prize money to the tune of £3m then his value to us is £3m.

[AgentDaleCooper]

I don't know how to phrase it any better.

If the best offer we got for SJM last night was £2.75m, as reported, then that's what he was worth to us.

Villa may have got a bargain, but I'm not concerned about them.

Maybe one of the accountancy guys will be able to help with the semantics. :greengrin

Value of any sort is by definition, and to varying degrees, subjective. You seem to be saying cost and value are synonymous :aok:

[Juice-Terry]

Value of any sort is by definition, and to varying degrees, subjective. You seem to be saying cost and value are synonymous :aok:

Can you explain/justify that to me please? Quite curious....

[mjhibby]

Lewis Fraser the Mons Calpe( Gibraltar ) U 23 coach is tweeting that we are after Ryan Gould on loan, Aberdeen want him permanent but Sporting only want a loan deal, interesting.


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Hibs are in talks with Sporting Lisbon over the possible loan deal of Ryan Gauld. Aberdeen want the player on a permanent deal however SL would prefer the player go out on loan.


We've been tracking gauld for a while. His girlfriend is from these parts and he's open to coming here. I believe we tried to get him in January but he decided to stay put and got Allan instead. We shall see.

[Unseen work]

Kenny Millar ruling out any move for Gauld.

[PatHead]

Kenny Millar ruling out any move for Gauld.

From Livingston?

[AgentDaleCooper]

Can you explain/justify that to me please? Quite curious....

Well value is intrinsically something projected onto something - it requires a brain for it to be conceived as such. A hammer is of practical value in so far as one can perceive how it would be used. Gold only has monetary value in the same way. With many things, there is sufficient consensus to render such considerations as practically absurd, but it remains that any notion of value or worth, whether it be a share, a house or a freddo, is going to differ wildly in different contexts, and cannot be said to be a property of the thing in itself, and is thus projected onto it.

Cost is different, in this sense, as it simply reports the sum exchanged, or offered as part of a transaction, and so has objective historical reference.

Also, note that you can objectively state someone's VALUATION of something (Hibs value freddos at 40p), but you can't objectively state it's value itself. I.e., you can report on someone elses, or some entities projection, but not on some property intrinsic of the object.

P.s. sorry for being such a ponce :aok:

[WhileTheChief..]

With all the attack minded player we're after/signing it looks like Lennon is trying to emulate the Famous 5 set up of all out attack and score more than the opposition. :thumbsup:

Watch Lennon’s pre match press conference, he pretty much said he’s not bothered about our defence!

He said it with a wee smile and I took it mean that so long as keep banging in the goals he’ll be happy.

I think most most of us would be too :thumbsup:

[Diclonius]

The Barisha thing has spread arms and legs now. My work here is done. :wink:

I hope I'm actually right...

[Jim44]

Watch Lennon’s pre match press conference, he pretty much said he’s not bothered about our defence!

He said it with a wee smile and I took it mean that so long as keep banging in the goals he’ll be happy.

I think most most of us would be too :thumbsup:

As long as you keep banging in the goals in both legs, ‘cos you’re going to surrender ‘away’ goals easily if your defence is iffy. I like the curt of his job, however. :greengrin

[WhileTheChief..]

Well, since you ask...(given your reaction on the other thread, you'll need to strap yourself in for this one)

I disagree with your second sentence - the £2,75m could legitimately be called the market value, but if keeping McGinn could be guaranteed to bring in extra gate money and prize money to the tune of £3m then his value to us is £3m.

Yeah but the extra risk involved in playing him and not achieving the extra gate or prize money? A player’s value will never be guaranteed.

How much is that risk worth?

First game after the window shuts and he breaks a leg. He’s now worth nadda and will be out of contract by the time he’s back playing, probably for someone else!

I’d say the price we received is his market value, in that that was the only figure the ‘market’ offered.

His real value to Hibs? Some might say priceless!

[Eyrie]

Yeah but the extra risk involved in playing him and not achieving the extra gate or prize money? A player’s value will never be guaranteed.

How much is that risk worth?

First game after the window shuts and he breaks a leg. He’s now worth nadda and will be out of contract by the time he’s back playing, probably for someone else!

I’d say the price we received is his market value, in that that was the only figure the ‘market’ offered.

His real value to Hibs? Some might say priceless!

If the market value is the price offered, then McGinn's market value has shot up from Celtc's initial offer of £1.5m to Villa's rumoured £2.75m plus add ons.

I'd say the market value is any price on which both seller and buyer agree, and until then there is an offer price and a selling price.

[Juice-Terry]

Well value is intrinsically something projected onto something - it requires a brain for it to be conceived as such. A hammer is of practical value in so far as one can perceive how it would be used. Gold only has monetary value in the same way. With many things, there is sufficient consensus to render such considerations as practically absurd, but it remains that any notion of value or worth, whether it be a share, a house or a freddo, is going to differ wildly in different contexts, and cannot be said to be a property of the thing in itself, and is thus projected onto it.

Cost is different, in this sense, as it simply reports the sum exchanged, or offered as part of a transaction, and so has objective historical reference.

Also, note that you can objectively state someone's VALUATION of something (Hibs value freddos at 40p), but you can't objectively state it's value itself. I.e., you can report on someone elses, or some entities projection, but not on some property intrinsic of the object.

P.s. sorry for being such a ponce :aok:

I couldn't disagree more with you on the first paragraph, but maybe that's a discussion best saved for the pub? :aok:

[J-C]

Why are we arguing over what he was worth and house prices, he's gone and we got good money for him, don't waste your energy ffs.

[Caversham Green]

Yeah but the extra risk involved in playing him and not achieving the extra gate or prize money? A player’s value will never be guaranteed.

How much is that risk worth?

First game after the window shuts and he breaks a leg. He’s now worth nadda and will be out of contract by the time he’s back playing, probably for someone else!

I’d say the price we received is his market value, in that that was the only figure the ‘market’ offered.

His real value to Hibs? Some might say priceless!

Quite right but my point was that 'value to us' is not the same as market value or how much someone is willing to pay. In truth I think the amount we appear to have received is probably more than his value to us (the board seem to think the same or they wouldn't have sold him) but that can't ever be accurately established.

The fact that we sold him to Villa has added value in that he won't play against us unless we draw Villa in Europe sometime in the future and we've also managed a giruy to Celtc. You can't put a monetary value on that, but it's priceless to me.

[WhileTheChief..]

Totally agree.

I think our board played a blinder through all of this.

Things just keep getting better and better. Tonight will top off a great week :thumbsup:

[renato]

Interesting comment from Lennon on Sportsound there, comparing the sale of Molde’s star player for £9m to the sale of our star player for “£3 or £4m”...

[Aritch]

Interesting comment from Lennon on Sportsound there, comparing the sale of Molde’s star player for £9m to the sale of our star player for “£3 or £4m”...

Everything’s more expensive in Norway.

[Danderhall Hibs]

Interesting comment from Lennon on Sportsound there, comparing the sale of Molde’s star player for £9m to the sale of our star player for “£3 or £4m”...

I reckon the price was £4m - 30% to st Mirren leaves us £2.75-2.8m

[soupernashwan]

On BBC Lennon confirms he's after at least one more wide player (in addition to Agyepong) and a midfield player.

[Nicho87]

Can we start the McGinn returning on loan rumours yet

[Jack Hackett]

Can we start the McGinn returning on loan rumours yet

:hyper








:greengrin

[BOB MARLEYS DUG]

Lennon said he’s after another winger and a midfielder.

[wookie70]

We desperately need more energy in the middle of the park and that should be our next target. Marv does his thing but it is only in defense and he looks wrecked after an hour as does Slivka. Mallan works away but again doesn't cover the ground and tends to run out of steam too. McGinn was badly missed tonight particularly when they were knocking it about and we weren't getting close to them. Not sure we need another winger when we don't really play with them

[Peevemor]

Can we start the McGinn returning on loan rumours yetDefinitely, given that he's not even been getting on the pitch.

[keep the faith]

On BBC Lennon confirms he's after at least one more wide player (in addition to Agyepong) and a midfield player.Enter Scott Allan! 🤞

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[Joe6-2]

Enter Scott Allan! 🤞

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Hopefully!