The battle with the weight

[overdrive]

Lost 3 pounds this last week now that my wife is weighing stuff when its her turn to cook. Not wishing to admit this, though, her retort when I said I actually lost 3 pounds this week was "I'm really surprised as I'd say we ate unhealthier things last week compared to when you didn't lose weight". Aye that'll be because although it might be "worse for you", we actually knew how much of it we ate unlike before.

And we’re back to guesstimates :rolleyes:

[Bridge hibs]

And we’re back to guesstimates :rolleyes:

Im very very lucky, my Wife cant cook so I do all the cooking 😁

[silverhibee]

It's only when you stop eating sugary processed crap that you realise how addictive it is. Whether it's mental, physical or both I don't know but it's a proper craving and I think it's almost comparable to giving up smoking (which I did cold turkey just after leaving uni).

I'm on a pretty good roll now and in a nice routine of eating and exercise but for the first few days the cravings for coke, biscuits and sweets was almost overwhelming. Get through that and they fade pretty quickly, a small portion of Greek yoghurt and some raspberries was enough to satisfy my fancy for a sweet treat at lunchtime today. Last week the biscuit tin would have been irresistible.

I have drunk bottled water for the last few years, I would drink bottles of coke like they were going out of fashion in the past, I bought a bottle of coke at Xmas and it was disgusting, I would have been better of scooping table spoons of sugar in to my mouth.

[Pretty Boy]

I have drunk bottled water for the last few years, I would drink bottles of coke like they were going out of fashion in the past, I bought a bottle of coke at Xmas and it was disgusting, I would have been better of scooping table spoons of sugar in to my mouth.

Fizzy drinks are one of the worst. I switched to diet or sugar free versions but I read something about them not actually being all that much better in weight loss terms. Something about the sweetness tricks your body into expecting a sugar hit so it plays havoc with your metabolism or some other science stuff. Anyway more relevant was I drank litres of the stuff, I could easily finish a 2 litrre bottle of Pepsi Max in one evening and get started on the next one; but I was always thirsty and being thirsty can trick you into thinking your hungry.

3 weeks of subbing the fizzy juice for water and I'm suddenly no longer thirsty all the time and lo and behold despite eating less (or certainly eating less crap) and moving more I'm not feeling hungry all the time either. There are other benefits too, my skin is as good as it has been in years and a couple of long term joint problems in my knees and hips are feeling a lot better which my physio says is almost certainly down to being better hydrated.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Fizzy drinks are one of the worst. I switched to diet or sugar free versions but I read something about them not actually being all that much better in weight loss terms. Something about the sweetness tricks your body into expecting a sugar hit so it plays havoc with your metabolism or some other science stuff. Anyway more relevant was I drank litres of the stuff, I could easily finish a 2 litrre bottle of Pepsi Max in one evening and get started on the next one; but I was always thirsty and being thirsty can trick you into thinking your hungry.

3 weeks of subbing the fizzy juice for water and I'm suddenly no longer thirsty all the time and lo and behold despite eating less (or certainly eating less crap) and moving more I'm not feeling hungry all the time either. There are other benefits too, my skin is as good as it has been in years and a couple of long term joint problems in my knees and hips are feeling a lot better which my physio says is almost certainly down to being better hydrated.

Fizzy drinks are my absolute kryptonite. I could give up most things, crisps, sweeties, probably even meat, but I struggle to ever see me binning fizzy drinks.

[Bridge hibs]

Fizzy drinks are my absolute kryptonite. I could give up most things, crisps, sweeties, probably even meat, but I struggle to ever see me binning fizzy drinks.

I did and I feel so much better for it, I was a diet cokeaholic literally. Our eldest Daughter banned us from having coke or any diet juice in the house, our cravings were so bad we would go out in the car and stop off at a garage to grab a couple of bottles, we then parked up at the harbour and guzzled it like a couple of desperados 🤣

[Northernhibee]

Another pound and a half off this week. Pretty much tied on the lightest weight I’ve been as an adult, give or take half a pound.

Got a bit of a cold and visiting Albania this weekend, so training has been lighter and will be enjoying my food at the weekend so will likely put on a little this week ahead.

[grunt]

Quite honestly, stopping drinking was one of the best decisions of my life. It’s crazy how much difference you feel long term.
Any suggestions about how to do that? I realise it's probably another thread, but as you say, the alcohol and the weight problems are linked.

[Northernhibee]

Any suggestions about how to do that? I realise it's probably another thread, but as you say, the alcohol and the weight problems are linked.

Honestly, I just stopped. Take some time to find alcohol free alternatives that work for you. There are some AF beers that I like, but I also occasionally make a shrub (a fruit and vinegar syrup) that I mix with sparkling water or tonic water that is very refreshing - might be raspberries with some red wine vinegar and sugar, which you can use sparingly in place of a spirit. Sounds awful but it’s very good.

I don’t mention it too much but I had an absolutely horrible time at school and even fifteen to twenty years on carried some of the weight of it and although never a problem drinker, it’s also very easy to use it as a crutch. “What a bad day, would love a beer”, or heading to a social event and needing a few drinks to settle in. Looking back I had a whole load of personal issues I was just kicking down the road without realising it. Hopped from job to job and I think that was largely due to that.

For a little after stopping drinking, things were actually a little more difficult as you had to deal with your issues rather than just have a beer or wine at the end of the day, or you had to relearn how to socialise. You may lose some friends when you realise they’re just drinking friends, but now often go to gigs, the climbing centre, or for a bite to eat with mates instead and it’s somewhat more varied than just heading to the pub at the weekend.

Once you get through that it’s much easier. More money in my pocket, my mood is much more stable, far more confident in myself, fitter, more ambitious, and am settled down in a good relationship and a good job.

I won’t lie and say it’s an easy ride or an easy thing to do and you’ll need to work on a few things to make it work but it’s a net positive in the end. I put aside what I’d spent at the pub each month and put it into a pot for three or four cheap weekend breaks a year and that’s a nice thing to do in place of sitting at the pub.

If you choose to do it then good luck and if you want any advice, do reach out.

[Bridge hibs]

Any suggestions about how to do that? I realise it's probably another thread, but as you say, the alcohol and the weight problems are linked.I used mind over matter mate, I just kept telling myself Im killing myself, not because of the alcohol per se but the associated health problems it brings with it

Diabetes was the one that got me (Type 2) I never took it seriously until it hit me with a vengeance, kidney trouble followed by urinary issues to the point at work I was in agony and struggling to pee

Then there was the psychological side, generally feeling ****, alcohol induced anxiety etc and that was only drinking in moderation. I then decided **** it, Im going to use all my willpower so I stopped alcohol for a month, missed my Saturday beers but by **** I felt great, then a few tins at the weekend followed by two months without, then six months etc

My head was in a much better place as was my physical health so it was win win. Ive not stopped completely but I choose to drink through choice and not through habit, when I started to feel the psychological and physical benefits the choice was a good one

Good luck mate 👍

[Hibby Bairn]

Another pound and a half off this week. Pretty much tied on the lightest weight I’ve been as an adult, give or take half a pound.

Got a bit of a cold and visiting Albania this weekend, so training has been lighter and will be enjoying my food at the weekend so will likely put on a little this week ahead.

Well done 👍

[McD]

Fizzy drinks are my absolute kryptonite. I could give up most things, crisps, sweeties, probably even meat, but I struggle to ever see me binning fizzy drinks.



This is me as well. I’ve wasn’t ever a heavy drinker and gave it up when I was about 20, not a big sweetie person, but fizzy juice and crisps are my vices

[Bridge hibs]

16.09 last week and same this week, finding shifting this 9lbs to be a challenge but I know the main reason is that returning to work after a 6 month absence has been more difficult to plan meals so my eating is a bit erratic, previously I had more time to prepare meals whereas now I just feel too tired

Still plenty to play for so one stone down and my diabetes bloods in two weeks time so I hope Im on the road to reversing my type 2 diabetes

[Pretty Boy]

I'm only down a pound this week but have had to take the belt in a notch and a few T shirts are hanging a bit differently so I'm not too concerned it's not more.

I've been hitting the gym pretty hard for about 5 weeks now and can definitely notice a change in body shape so I'm using the scales more as a guide than being a slave to them.

[Bridge hibs]

I'm only down a pound this week but have had to take the belt in a notch and a few T shirts are hanging a bit differently so I'm not too concerned it's not more.

I've been hitting the gym pretty hard for about 5 weeks now and can definitely notice a change in body shape so I'm using the scales more as a guide than being a slave to them.Yeah same and my body fat conversion to muscle mass is impressive despite me not starting any physical exercise yet

I dont go to gyms as I was put off a few years ago by the “mobile phone” “look at me brigade” moreso one or two of them had biceps the size of processed peas

I have the 12kg kettle bell, dum bells and curl bar at home and I plan to get wired into them, its just the motivation switch that Im having trouble finding just now

[Northernhibee]

Did my first ParkRun in a while - had a horrendous chesty bug as of late and was on a long weekend away. Started off way too fast and burned myself out by the 3km mark which I’m disappointed with, still my second best time but my fitness is better than I showed.

Feeling more strength in the climbing - lost my footing on one climb and was able to swing my legs around whilst holding on to one hand hold with both hands and regained control. The way it was positioned made it tough but no way was I doing that a month ago.


Not working next Saturday either so hoping to get another ParkRun in, want to lose a bit more body fat and gain lower body strength before I build distance.

[Northernhibee]

Got a niggling pain in my knee so having to lighten my training. I think it’s related to some new insoles I’ve got - my physio reckons I’m needing an arch support on the side where my knee is sore and I’ve just started wearing it, so it may just be that side of my body adjusting.

Weight has held reasonably steady after a good weekend seeing friends and heading out for a couple of meals, so that’s a positive.

[grunt]

Wonder what people think of this article on fasting.

https://www.eurekalert.org/news-releases/1035921


New findings reveal that the body undergoes significant, systematic changes across multiple organs during prolonged periods of fasting. The results demonstrate evidence of health benefits beyond weight loss, but also show that any potentially health-altering changes appear to occur only after three days without food.

[Pretty Boy]

3lbs off last week. Happy with that.

Had a heavy weekend on the beers weekend just past so not the best start to this week but back on track today and nothing really planned for the next 3 weekends so shouldn't be too destructive.

[Northernhibee]

Another pound off. Noticing a difference in clothing - needed to buy a new belt, and both look and feel the difference.

Went back to the climbing gym today after my knee has settled down a bit and was able to complete a climb that I haven’t before. All very promising.

[CallumLaidlaw]

Been on a bit of a downhill spiral since my 40th in September 2021. Genuinely put the 5 stone back on that I’d lost. Got the euros for 5 days in the summer so on a mission to get as much off as possible for then. Know who to do it it’s just the motivation. So hopefully the euros, then 2 weddings later in the year will keep me focused.
Joined up to an overweight football team and had my first training session last week so hopefully that will help too. 11.5lbs off in the first 2 weeks but the first couple of weeks are always a bit of a gimme.


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27lbs off in 9 weeks now. Really enjoying the football. Had my first league game on Sunday and managed about an hour. Training tonight was the best I’ve felt so far. The 2 sessions a week are helping massively.

Avoiding drinking in the house definitely helping, and only drinking when out for an actual night out etc rather than every week at the football. Definitely my biggest issue.


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[Smartie]

27lbs off in 9 weeks now. Really enjoying the football. Had my first league game on Sunday and managed about an hour. Training tonight was the best I’ve felt so far. The 2 sessions a week are helping massively.

Avoiding drinking in the house definitely helping, and only drinking when out for an actual night out etc rather than every week at the football. Definitely my biggest issue.


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Re the overweight football - what are the requirements for getting involved with that? I’m most certainly a good bit overweight, struggling badly to get started doing something about it but that sounds exactly like the sort of environment I’d respond to.

[Bridge hibs]

27lbs off in 9 weeks now. Really enjoying the football. Had my first league game on Sunday and managed about an hour. Training tonight was the best I’ve felt so far. The 2 sessions a week are helping massively.

Avoiding drinking in the house definitely helping, and only drinking when out for an actual night out etc rather than every week at the football. Definitely my biggest issue.


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkNice one mate, well done 👍

[CallumLaidlaw]

Re the overweight football - what are the requirements for getting involved with that? I’m most certainly a good bit overweight, struggling badly to get started doing something about it but that sounds exactly like the sort of environment I’d respond to.

38” waist or above or 30+ BMI. Loads of teams across the central belt now. They have 2 divisions now and I think more clubs are being set up for next season.

https://m.facebook.com/warriorspremierleague/


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[Northernhibee]

27lbs off in 9 weeks now. Really enjoying the football. Had my first league game on Sunday and managed about an hour. Training tonight was the best I’ve felt so far. The 2 sessions a week are helping massively.

Avoiding drinking in the house definitely helping, and only drinking when out for an actual night out etc rather than every week at the football. Definitely my biggest issue.


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That’s absolutely superb, well done!


What are you doing food wise?

[CallumLaidlaw]

That’s absolutely superb, well done!


What are you doing food wise?

So just having a protein shake at breakfast. Mainly soup at lunch and then just a healthyish dinner (burger and homemade chips tonight). Snack wise try to stick to 100-150 calorie snack mid morning and mid afternoon if needed. Yoghurt after dinner.
A chocolate snackajack in the evening if I need it.

Still managed to have a few days out here and there. Was out all day for the derby last week. Lunch at pizza geeks then a pie at the match. Done Hibs hospitality a couple of weeks ago which turned into a late one with a late night pizza [emoji23]

It’s just about moderation for me and not making every other day a cheat day [emoji23]

I’m going out tomorrow night for the boxing so food and bevvy but then that will be me being fairly strict again until 30th when I’m out with the missus.


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[Northernhibee]

So just having a protein shake at breakfast. Mainly soup at lunch and then just a healthyish dinner (burger and homemade chips tonight). Snack wise try to stick to 100-150 calorie snack mid morning and mid afternoon if needed. Yoghurt after dinner.
A chocolate snackajack in the evening if I need it.

Still managed to have a few days out here and there. Was out all day for the derby last week. Lunch at pizza geeks then a pie at the match. Done Hibs hospitality a couple of weeks ago which turned into a late one with a late night pizza [emoji23]

It’s just about moderation for me and not making every other day a cheat day [emoji23]

I’m going out tomorrow night for the boxing so food and bevvy but then that will be me being fairly strict again until 30th when I’m out with the missus.


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Good stuff, nice that you’re not cutting out all the things that you enjoy too.


My partner is out tonight, so got a Bavette steak from M&S and going to make myself a steak sandwich with home made chips tonight. Breakfast is always a protein shake and a chocolate protein pud, lunch is skyr with berries and meringue, and tea is something decent but healthy. Pudding is a mini Magnum or a jelly and custard pot from Aldi. Fruit as a snack, and clear whey isolate once or twice in the day.


Weighed in at fifteen stone twelve this week, which is the lightest I remember being. Was 21 stone there or there abouts when I started this journey which is two years tomorrow going by my Facebook timeline.

Had a catch up with some former colleagues in Aberdeen at the weekend and it took them a couple of minutes to realise it was me. Some of that was being a few years older and having grown a beard but that took me back quite a bit.

[CallumLaidlaw]

Good stuff, nice that you’re not cutting out all the things that you enjoy too.


My partner is out tonight, so got a Bavette steak from M&S and going to make myself a steak sandwich with home made chips tonight. Breakfast is always a protein shake and a chocolate protein pud, lunch is skyr with berries and meringue, and tea is something decent but healthy. Pudding is a mini Magnum or a jelly and custard pot from Aldi. Fruit as a snack, and clear whey isolate once or twice in the day.


Weighed in at fifteen stone twelve this week, which is the lightest I remember being. Was 21 stone there or there abouts when I started this journey which is two years tomorrow going by my Facebook timeline.

Had a catch up with some former colleagues in Aberdeen at the weekend and it took them a couple of minutes to realise it was me. Some of that was being a few years older and having grown a beard but that took me back quite a bit.

That’s absolutely superb mate [emoji122][emoji122][emoji122]

BMI is a bit of a myth for my body. When I was 17/18, I had absolutely no fat on me and was around 16.5 stone. So heavy set anyway. I’ve fluctuated over the years and from around 25st I managed to get myself down to 19st in lockdown. Last 2 and a half years has seen me just pile it back on and hit 26st last summer. I got some off then got lazy before Christmas. On New Year’s Day I was 25st. So now at 23st. Would like to get under 21st for going to Germany. Well aware that at 42 I need to make sure I keep it off now tho otherwise it’s just gonna get harder and harder. As I said, I’m loving the football, but my body has been in constant ache mode for the last 2 months [emoji23]


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[CropleyWasGod]

That’s absolutely superb mate [emoji122][emoji122][emoji122]

BMI is a bit of a myth for my body. When I was 17/18, I had absolutely no fat on me and was around 16.5 stone. So heavy set anyway. I’ve fluctuated over the years and from around 25st I managed to get myself down to 19st in lockdown. Last 2 and a half years has seen me just pile it back on and hit 26st last summer. I got some off then got lazy before Christmas. On New Year’s Day I was 25st. So now at 23st. Would like to get under 21st for going to Germany. Well aware that at 42 I need to make sure I keep it off now tho otherwise it’s just gonna get harder and harder. As I said, I’m loving the football, but my body has been in constant ache mode for the last 2 months [emoji23]


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Not trying to derail the thread, but is BMI that important? I know that GP's etc set a lot of store by it, and that it is a useful guide. But.... no-one can tell me that a 16stone rugby player, who is built like a ripped brick ****house and is as fit as the proverbial, is overweight. Or are they?

[CallumLaidlaw]

Not trying to derail the thread, but is BMI that important? I know that GP's etc set a lot of store by it, and that it is a useful guide. But.... no-one can tell me that a 16stone rugby player, who is built like a ripped brick ****house and is as fit as the proverbial, is overweight. Or are they?

Yeah agree. I always remember that at his peak, Lennox Lewis was morbidly obese going by BMI.


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[Jones28]

Not trying to derail the thread, but is BMI that important? I know that GP's etc set a lot of store by it, and that it is a useful guide. But.... no-one can tell me that a 16stone rugby player, who is built like a ripped brick ****house and is as fit as the proverbial, is overweight. Or are they?

BMI is a load of *****.

It doesn't take body composition in to account, its way too black and white to take your weight and height and decide you're overweight on that basis.

[nonshinyfinish]

BMI is a load of *****.

It doesn't take body composition in to account, its way too black and white to take your weight and height and decide you're overweight on that basis.

I think BMI is more useful at a population level than at an individual level. If a population's BMI is increasing, it's probably not because there are more 16-stone musclebound brick s***houses around…

At an individual level, it's an indicator. If your BMI is outside the expected range, it doesn't automatically mean you're under or overweight, but for many people it will. It's something to consider along with other metrics/factors rather than being used in isolation to say someone is overweight.

[Northernhibee]

That’s absolutely superb mate [emoji122][emoji122][emoji122]

BMI is a bit of a myth for my body. When I was 17/18, I had absolutely no fat on me and was around 16.5 stone. So heavy set anyway. I’ve fluctuated over the years and from around 25st I managed to get myself down to 19st in lockdown. Last 2 and a half years has seen me just pile it back on and hit 26st last summer. I got some off then got lazy before Christmas. On New Year’s Day I was 25st. So now at 23st. Would like to get under 21st for going to Germany. Well aware that at 42 I need to make sure I keep it off now tho otherwise it’s just gonna get harder and harder. As I said, I’m loving the football, but my body has been in constant ache mode for the last 2 months [emoji23]


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Makes such a huge distance to have an activity you enjoy. The football was great for me for a while but fell out of love with it (namely a few people who took it way too seriously) so found my new thing, which is largely running, climbing, and OCRs. Got that enthusiasm back again and also in permanent ache mode 😂

[Onceinawhile]

I think BMI is more useful at a population level than at an individual level. If a population's BMI is increasing, it's probably not because there are more 16-stone musclebound brick s***houses around…

At an individual level, it's an indicator. If your BMI is outside the expected range, it doesn't automatically mean you're under or overweight, but for many people it will. It's something to consider along with other metrics/factors rather than being used in isolation to say someone is overweight.

I agree with this. Anthony Joshua has a higher bmi than I do, but obviously he's ripped. He's an outlier.

I on the other hand have average amounts of muscle, so when my bmi is too high, it usually means I'm overweight.

Currently, I need to lose just under 2 stone to be in "normal" range and from last time I was that weight I'd say that's about right.

Anyway, slimming world last night - another 2.5lbs off for a total of 2st 1lb lost since the start of the year.

Another 2 stone to go, hopefully by mid June.

[overdrive]

Anybody come across Eddie Abbew on social media and what’s your views? A lot of what he says makes sense but some of the other stuff I think is borderline misinformation.

If anything, whenever I see prepackaged, processed food in the supermarket, all I hear is his voice saying “this **** isn’t food, wake the **** up” :faf:

Some of his cooking looks vile. Cooking mince and blueberries in the one pan :faf:

[joe breezy]

Wonder what people think of this article on fasting.

https://www.eurekalert.org/news-releases/1035921

I did intermittent fasting at the start of lockdown as I didn’t have any work for a while

Then I started working again from home and just couldn’t do it

I only work at a computer but can’t focus when I’m hungry

There’s loads of evidence it works though even if you don’t eat till lunchtime and are careful what you do eat


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[Northernhibee]

Anybody come across Eddie Abbew on social media and what’s your views? A lot of what he says makes sense but some of the other stuff I think is borderline misinformation.

If anything, whenever I see prepackaged, processed food in the supermarket, all I hear is his voice saying “this **** isn’t food, wake the **** up” :faf:

Some of his cooking looks vile. Cooking mince and blueberries in the one pan :faf:

He’s a ****ing idiot and borderline dangerous. You can lose weight by being in a calorie deficit and essentially all the diets that you see are basically different ways of getting to that.


By stigmatising large amounts of food as “****” and “not food”, you’re just opening a door to eating disorders. Sometimes when you’re out and about you’re going to have to choose the least worst option (or just choose to enjoy yourself for one night) and having mantras along the lines of eat pancakes, get sick, die are ****ing idiotic.


The man is an arse, his past in terms of assistance to get his physique are enlightening, and his followers are like a cult.

[Keyser Sauzee]

He’s a ****ing idiot and borderline dangerous. You can lose weight by being in a calorie deficit and essentially all the diets that you see are basically different ways of getting to that.


By stigmatising large amounts of food as “****” and “not food”, you’re just opening a door to eating disorders. Sometimes when you’re out and about you’re going to have to choose the least worst option (or just choose to enjoy yourself for one night) and having mantras along the lines of eat pancakes, get sick, die are ****ing idiotic.


The man is an arse, his past in terms of assistance to get his physique are enlightening, and his followers are like a cult.

He’s a prick, a lot of these “influencers” are becoming so insufferable. Anytime an individual has lost weight or is losing weight, regardless of the method/strategy used, is because they have been in a calorie deficit, it’s as simple as that.

[overdrive]

Can anyone recommend a good cardio exercise when you have an injured ankle and foot? I’ve gone over on my ankle four times since the start of the year, the worst being outside ER where I hurt my foot and it’s the foot that’s causing most issues still. Waking and running are mega painful. Cycling hurts too. Swimming which might be the go to in these situations is out due to an ear condition.

I can basically only do weights and kettlebells.

[Keyser Sauzee]

Can anyone recommend a good cardio exercise when you have an injured ankle and foot? I’ve gone over on my ankle four times since the start of the year, the worst being outside ER where I hurt my foot and it’s the foot that’s causing most issues still. Waking and running are mega painful. Cycling hurts too. Swimming which might be the go to in these situations is out due to an ear condition.

I can basically only do weights and kettlebells.

Have you tried the cross trainer, might not put as much stress on the ankle as running or walking?

[Pretty Boy]

Can anyone recommend a good cardio exercise when you have an injured ankle and foot? I’ve gone over on my ankle four times since the start of the year, the worst being outside ER where I hurt my foot and it’s the foot that’s causing most issues still. Waking and running are mega painful. Cycling hurts too. Swimming which might be the go to in these situations is out due to an ear condition.

I can basically only do weights and kettlebells.

Aqua jogging is brilliant. I used to do it when I was boxing at uni and it's a proper cardio workout but doesn't put anything like the same stress on your legs and feet as pounding the pavements does.

You can pick up a buoyancy belt that you need from somewhere like Decathlon for about £20. Biggest difficulty is probably finding an area in a pool that gives you space to do it.

[Stairway 2 7]

Can anyone recommend a good cardio exercise when you have an injured ankle and foot? I’ve gone over on my ankle four times since the start of the year, the worst being outside ER where I hurt my foot and it’s the foot that’s causing most issues still. Waking and running are mega painful. Cycling hurts too. Swimming which might be the go to in these situations is out due to an ear condition.

I can basically only do weights and kettlebells.

Can do cardio with weights too. Decrease the weight of the dumbell right down and do lots of fast reps, gets the heart pumping. Some gyms have arm bikes and ropes for cardio or use the rowing machine with feet on the ground. You could also do seated cardio workouts designed for people in wheelchairs

https://youtu.be/SBcvIynb2Fg?si=GF8KJjcnVOLLu23j

[J-C]

Yeah agree. I always remember that at his peak, Lennox Lewis was morbidly obese going by BMI.


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I was the same while doing my natural bodybuilding days, said I was obese but most of it was muscle. I was onstage at 5% body fat and 11st 7lbs, it said for my 5ft 8in size I should've been 10st 7lbs.

[nonshinyfinish]

I was the same while doing my natural bodybuilding days, said I was obese but most of it was muscle. I was onstage at 5% body fat and 11st 7lbs, it said for my 5ft 8in size I should've been 10st 7lbs.

11st 7lb is 73kg and 5'8" is 1.73m, giving a BMI of 24.4 (within the recommended range). The obese range is 30+.

As above it wouldn't have been a useful metric for you as your body composition wasn't typical, but it also wasn't saying you were obese.

[Northernhibee]

Had our first normal takeaway of the year last night (Dundee has a really decent healthy takeaway I’ve had a couple of times) - big pizza with plenty of toppings. Surprised how terrible I feel today - queasy, tired, generally sluggish.

It’s defo not a case of having eaten something dodgy, just think it’s how my body’s not used to all that grease and salt in one sitting. Would have thought nothing of it before.


Genuinely taken me aback a little.

[CropleyWasGod]

Had our first normal takeaway of the year last night (Dundee has a really decent healthy takeaway I’ve had a couple of times) - big pizza with plenty of toppings. Surprised how terrible I feel today - queasy, tired, generally sluggish.

It’s defo not a case of having eaten something dodgy, just think it’s how my body’s not used to all that grease and salt in one sitting. Would have thought nothing of it before.


Genuinely taken me aback a little.

That's a good sign, no? It's a marker as to how far you've come, and a wee reminder as to where you don't want to go back to.

[Northernhibee]

That's a good sign, no? It's a marker as to how far you've come, and a wee reminder as to where you don't want to go back to.

Yeah, very good sign. Just a real surprise.

Had an early morning jog pencilled in for today but moved it to tomorrow.

[J-C]

11st 7lb is 73kg and 5'8" is 1.73m, giving a BMI of 24.4 (within the recommended range). The obese range is 30+.

As above it wouldn't have been a useful metric for you as your body composition wasn't typical, but it also wasn't saying you were obese.

Sorry, meant to add when I was off season and not competing, I weighed 12st 10lbs before i did the show diet, it was that weight I should've added, anyway my point is muscle out weighs fat and the BMI doesn't really work for athletes.

[Jones28]

I've fallen down a slight wormhole on Youtube the last couple of days around food and specifically Ultra Processed Foods, take aways and over consumption.

This documentary https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrCEpkc2INo

The couple in it are so incredibly ignorant about the food they're eating. They were consuming 30,000 EXTRA calories EVERY WEEK in takeways and spending £15,000 a year whilst living at their parents house to save for a house deposit.

It's mind boggling to me. I'm health conscious, but I'm staggered at just how ignorant people can be.

[Smartie]

I've fallen down a slight wormhole on Youtube the last couple of days around food and specifically Ultra Processed Foods, take aways and over consumption.

This documentary https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrCEpkc2INo

The couple in it are so incredibly ignorant about the food they're eating. They were consuming 30,000 EXTRA calories EVERY WEEK in takeways and spending £15,000 a year whilst living at their parents house to save for a house deposit.

It's mind boggling to me. I'm health conscious, but I'm staggered at just how ignorant people can be.

It's actually a very easy trap to fall into and I'm sure plenty of folk are the same.

I probably know more than ever about what is required to be healthy... yet end up on these incredible slides where all sorts of combination of the worst possible health choices creep in.

Stress, busyness, convenience, time pressures, financial pressures, mental health issues - the reasons and justifications are almost endless and cycles of behaviour / habits can be enormously difficult to break.

Respect to all on this thread who are making great strides at present. I'll catch up with you when I get the chance...

[Northernhibee]

It's actually a very easy trap to fall into and I'm sure plenty of folk are the same.

I probably know more than ever about what is required to be healthy... yet end up on these incredible slides where all sorts of combination of the worst possible health choices creep in.

Stress, busyness, convenience, time pressures, financial pressures, mental health issues - the reasons and justifications are almost endless and cycles of behaviour / habits can be enormously difficult to break.

Respect to all on this thread who are making great strides at present. I'll catch up with you when I get the chance...

It can also be so easy to get suckered into making unhealthy choices.


I’m upping the intensity of what I do whilst maintaining a calorie deficit, and am keen to keep a steady and decent level of both protein and fibre in my diet.


Amongst the health supplement section of a local shop, I seen bags of protein tortilla chips. Picked the bag up, looked at the nutritional info and near 180 calories and just 3.6g of protein in the bag.

It takes reading every packet of stuff you pick up to fully understand what you’re eating, and if you’re in a rush and needing something to go it’s easy to start that spiral.

[Jones28]

It's actually a very easy trap to fall into and I'm sure plenty of folk are the same.

I probably know more than ever about what is required to be healthy... yet end up on these incredible slides where all sorts of combination of the worst possible health choices creep in.

Stress, busyness, convenience, time pressures, financial pressures, mental health issues - the reasons and justifications are almost endless and cycles of behaviour / habits can be enormously difficult to break.

Respect to all on this thread who are making great strides at present. I'll catch up with you when I get the chance...

My post was a bit insensitive having read it back. My apologies.

Still, this particular case I'm certain would shock most people whos actual super market shop was not particularly unhealthy.

[Smartie]

My post was a bit insensitive having read it back. My apologies.

Still, this particular case I'm certain would shock most people whos actual super market shop was not particularly unhealthy.

No apology necessary - it was a fair point.

I guess most of us who frequent this thread will be familiar with the feeling though - we know exactly what we need to do but go through spells where we do the exact opposite.

Your points re the marketing of particular foods is perfectly valid - take hidden sugars for example, sugars are everywhere and very often in places we'd least expect it. It's easy to consume bad stuff without necessarily realising it, that's before you get onto consuming the stuff we know is bad.

[Jones28]

No apology necessary - it was a fair point.

I guess most of us who frequent this thread will be familiar with the feeling though - we know exactly what we need to do but go through spells where we do the exact opposite.

Your points re the marketing of particular foods is perfectly valid - take hidden sugars for example, sugars are everywhere and very often in places we'd least expect it. It's easy to consume bad stuff without necessarily realising it, that's before you get onto consuming the stuff we know is bad.

Yepp absolutely.

If I was offering advice to anyone looking to lose weight it would be to be mega wary of products that market themselves as high protein, some of them are a complete nonsense.

That and to become familiar with reading food labels.

[Jones28]

I’ve dropped 3kg since Christmas which I’m quite pleased with. Managing to train 5 or 6 days a week now with a new job that is fully based at home and with an hours lunch break it allows me to walk, run or even get in a quick gym session on my breaks. 2 or 3 days in the week I’m doubling up by doing a lunch time run and gym at night.

[Northernhibee]

Under 100kg for the first time I can remember. Feeling good for it.

Set myself a challenge - before I turn 40 in under eighteen months time I’m going to compete in a 5k, 10k, half marathon, marathon, and ultra marathon. Been in touch with Hanlon Stevenson Foundation and I’ll do it to raise funds for them as they do so much work to make football accessible for all young people in the community and I know the benefit of feeling that sport is accessible to you, irrelevant of circumstance.


Everything up to the half marathon booked, just need the booking for the 2025 Manchester marathon to open, and if I complete that then I would qualify to take part in the Glasgow to Edinburgh 51 mile ultra marathon.

[CallumLaidlaw]

Under 100kg for the first time I can remember. Feeling good for it.

Set myself a challenge - before I turn 40 in under eighteen months time I’m going to compete in a 5k, 10k, half marathon, marathon, and ultra marathon. Been in touch with Hanlon Stevenson Foundation and I’ll do it to raise funds for them as they do so much work to make football accessible for all young people in the community and I know the benefit of feeling that sport is accessible to you, irrelevant of circumstance.


Everything up to the half marathon booked, just need the booking for the 2025 Manchester marathon to open, and if I complete that then I would qualify to take part in the Glasgow to Edinburgh 51 mile ultra marathon.

Great motivation, fair play [emoji122][emoji122]

As of Monday I was 2st 11lbs lighter than 1st January. Would like another 21lbs off by the start of the euros but appreciate it will be tougher the lighter I am.

Also completed my first 90 minutes on Sunday for the football team spoken about earlier in the thread. Was my 3rd game. Previously managed about 60-65 minutes each game. Still feeling it now if I’m honest [emoji23]


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[Northernhibee]

Great motivation, fair play [emoji122][emoji122]

As of Monday I was 2st 11lbs lighter than 1st January. Would like another 21lbs off by the start of the euros but appreciate it will be tougher the lighter I am.

Also completed my first 90 minutes on Sunday for the football team spoken about earlier in the thread. Was my 3rd game. Previously managed about 60-65 minutes each game. Still feeling it now if I’m honest [emoji23]


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Superb progress, well done 👏🏻

Would always say to focus on how you feel more than the weight - that’s a good bonus but if you’re running around for longer and clothes feel looser then that’s the best indicator of them all .

[Onceinawhile]

2lbs off this week at slimming world.

2.5st down in total now.

Another 1.5st to go.

[lapsedhibee]

Under 100kg for the first time I can remember. Feeling good for it.

Set myself a challenge - before I turn 40 in under eighteen months time I’m going to compete in a 5k, 10k, half marathon, marathon, and ultra marathon. Been in touch with Hanlon Stevenson Foundation and I’ll do it to raise funds for them as they do so much work to make football accessible for all young people in the community and I know the benefit of feeling that sport is accessible to you, irrelevant of circumstance.


Everything up to the half marathon booked, just need the booking for the 2025 Manchester marathon to open, and if I complete that then I would qualify to take part in the Glasgow to Edinburgh 51 mile ultra marathon.

Good luck. Awesome ambitiousness!

[Northernhibee]

2lbs off this week at slimming world.

2.5st down in total now.

Another 1.5st to go.

That’s absolutely superb work, you must be feeling good.

[Smartie]

I toiled badly at 7’s again tonight.

I realise that at 46 there’s a bit of expectation management that needs to go on but there currently aren’t any really good reasons why I can’t do a bit better than this.

So it all starts for me again tomorrow - eating better and drastically upping the exercise.

No real barriers to it right now so I just need to make it happen.

[Northernhibee]

Come up with an absolutely banging recipe for a high protein, low calorie coronation chicken “burger” (sandwich if you’re feeling less generous).

Around 530-550 calories and 70g of protein.

For two people, you’ll need:

Two chicken breasts
One lemon
Mango chutney
Either lighter than light mayo or low fat cream cheese
About a tablespoon of curry powder
Shredded iceberg lettuce
One beef tomato
Low fat cheddar cheese
Pickled red onion (optional)


First of all, in advance slice your chicken breast in two like you’re cutting open a burger bun. Add to a bowl with the curry powder and mix until well coated. Add the juice of a lemon and leave in the fridge, covered, for a few hours

Heat up a pan nice and hot.

Get two nice big slices of your tomato, salt both sides and leave to one side. You will get more flavour this way.

Get a veg peeler and make a few very thin slices of cheese with it, just enough for two thin layers. Maybe about eight peels of it.

Add some one calorie spray to your pan, add your chicken and cook until you get some colour on one side. Turn and repeat until cooked.

Remove your chicken from the pan to rest, split your buns and spray the inside with one calorie spray. Toast your buns in the pan.


Once this is done, spread a very thin layer of cream cheese or mayo on the bottom, then add the pickled red onion, lettuce, sliced tomato, one half of the chicken breast, a quarter of the cheese, the remaining tomato, and another quarter of the cheese. Spread the top half with a thin layer of the mango chutney and put it on top.

Repeat with the other.

Tasted absolutely banging, and very filling. Had the sweetness and creamy feeling of coronation chicken without the ton of mayo that usually comes with it.

[J-C]

So after dropping two and a half stones, I seen the diabetic nurse a couple of weeks ago, results came back positive. Blood pressure was good, blood sugar levels down to normal again, kidneys, liver etc all working as normal and cholesterol levels nice and low. Still like another stone off though.

[CallumLaidlaw]

Great motivation, fair play [emoji122][emoji122]

As of Monday I was 2st 11lbs lighter than 1st January. Would like another 21lbs off by the start of the euros but appreciate it will be tougher the lighter I am.

Also completed my first 90 minutes on Sunday for the football team spoken about earlier in the thread. Was my 3rd game. Previously managed about 60-65 minutes each game. Still feeling it now if I’m honest [emoji23]


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So, 1st January - 350lbs (25 stone)
Monday just gone - 292lbs (20stone 12 lbs)

So 58lbs off in 19 weeks. Just a touch off 3lbs a week off in average.

I’ve reached the goal of set myself for Germany with 5 weeks to spare so hoping for another 7lb off before I go now.

Not had a drink in 6 weeks which plays a massive part but got a couple of heavy sessions before now and 19th June so that will slow down those weeks obviously.


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[Sylar]

So after dropping two and a half stones, I seen the diabetic nurse a couple of weeks ago, results came back positive. Blood pressure was good, blood sugar levels down to normal again, kidneys, liver etc all working as normal and cholesterol levels nice and low. Still like another stone off though.

Good job! What changes have you made, out of interest?

I was diagnosed back in December and that was a jolt to me - I'm not your typical adult diagnosis body-type, so it was a shock, but rattled me into some better habits. I started with an A1c reading of 114 when I was first diagnosed - last check was down at 42.

Definitely feeling the health benefits of having made the necessary changes and running 3 times a week just now too.

[J-C]

Good job! What changes have you made, out of interest?

I was diagnosed back in December and that was a jolt to me - I'm not your typical adult diagnosis body-type, so it was a shock, but rattled me into some better habits. I started with an A1c reading of 114 when I was first diagnosed - last check was down at 42.

Definitely feeling the health benefits of having made the necessary changes and running 3 times a week just now too.

Just went back to a clean healthy diet, all fresh food, no additives or saturates and regular exercise.

[Bridge hibs]

Screwed the nut and dropped 1.5st in 7 weeks, battling like **** with my diabetes but needed to try kick my arse into gear.

Got a Libre patch that you place on the back of your upper arm and monitored my blood sugars, ****ing hell no wonder I was feeling totally ****ed, my sugars were peaking at around 17.5. I completely transformed my eating habits and throughout the month my blood sugars regulated at between 6 and 7.5 consistently. My HB1C came down to 42 from 57 at my last GP appointment. If I keep that up I could go into remission and cut down or come off my tablets, fingers crossed 🤞

[The_Exile]

Screwed the nut and dropped 1.5st in 7 weeks, battling like **** with my diabetes but needed to try kick my arse into gear.

Got a Libre patch that you place on the back of your upper arm and monitored my blood sugars, ****ing hell no wonder I was feeling totally ****ed, my sugars were peaking at around 17.5. I completely transformed my eating habits and throughout the month my blood sugars regulated at between 6 and 7.5 consistently. My HB1C came down to 42 from 57 at my last GP appointment. If I keep that up I could go into remission and cut down or come off my tablets, fingers crossed 🤞

17.5 mmol/l for me as a type 1 is very high, as a type 2 that must've felt awful, fair play for battling it though mate and getting your Hba1c down. I know how much effort that takes and it's a very lonely place to be sometimes when you're battling something nobody else can see, keep fighting :aok:

[Bridge hibs]

17.5 mmol/l for me as a type 1 is very high, as a type 2 that must've felt awful, fair play for battling it though mate and getting your Hba1c down. I know how much effort that takes and it's a very lonely place to be sometimes when you're battling something nobody else can see, keep fighting :aok:Thanks for your kind words mate, very much appreciated 👍

[Sylar]

I feel we should start a hibs.net diabetics thread tbh! :greengrin

I've been up and down lately with my sugar levels. Weight continues to be at a decent place but I'll admit I'm getting lazy with my cooking/eating better. Trying to maintain my own stuff plus cooking for the rest of the family (my 2 kids are extremely fussy) makes things challenging.

I'm still in the 'green' range for my HbA1c levels, but have gone up to around the 55 mark.

I found the Libre a bit too much information if I'm honest - I was becoming fixated on every minor adjustment in levels and what I could do to curb it. I'm back to just periodically testing myself - somewhere in the middle is probably necessary!

[Bridge hibs]

I feel we should start a hibs.net diabetics thread tbh! :greengrin

I've been up and down lately with my sugar levels. Weight continues to be at a decent place but I'll admit I'm getting lazy with my cooking/eating better. Trying to maintain my own stuff plus cooking for the rest of the family (my 2 kids are extremely fussy) makes things challenging.

I'm still in the 'green' range for my HbA1c levels, but have gone up to around the 55 mark.

I found the Libre a bit too much information if I'm honest - I was becoming fixated on every minor adjustment in levels and what I could do to curb it. I'm back to just periodically testing myself - somewhere in the middle is probably necessary!I agree to an extent about being fixated with the Libre as I also found myself going through all the information throughout the day and night.

That said it was a brilliant education and scarily finding out what certain foods, particularly breakfast cereals can cause a massive spike, just tweaking that made a massive difference to my blood sugars and I was able to ramp my numbers right down and to keep them consistent.

[HarpOnHibee]

I generally find that when it comes to losing weight, it's more about what you eat as opposed to how much. When people say that they want to lose weight, what they generally mean is that they want to lose fat. It's an important distinction because there's good ways to lose weight on the scale and there's bad ways. Some forms of weight loss can actually increase a persons total body fat percentage if their weight loss is coming from the break down of muscle tissue and bone density. They really ought to refer to it as "fat loss" as opposed to "weight loss". Because that's what people actually mean.

Increasing lean protein and fiber intake not only helps to prevent the break down of muscle tissue, it helps a person feel fuller for longer on less calories. It also helps to boost the metabolism allowing the body to burn more calories at rest. Cutting out bad carbs (fast acting carbs such as white bread, white pasta, pastries, batter, breadcrumbs, cereals, beer, cider...etc) can have a significant effect on fat reduction. But it's better to cut these things out of the diet gradually, as opposed to instantly, as the sudden withdrawal from these fast blood sugar spiking carbs can result in extreme fatigue and ultimately relapse. Gradual reduction makes it far more manageable.

The biggest mistake people make when trying to lose fat is that they get too caught up on counting the calories, as opposed to focusing on the quality of the food they're eating. If you're substantially overweight and focus on a diet on lean proteins (Chicken, Turkey, Fish, Lean Red Meats...etc) and healthy sources of fiber (fruits, vegetables and whole grains), you will lose weight naturally over time without even needing to count the calories, as you'll naturally consume less calories anyway, due to feeling fuller for longer and improving you overall gut microbiome.

You don't need to feel hungry to lose fat. You don't need to do an overabundance of cardio to lose fat either (although some moderate cardio is recommended for general cardiovascular health regardless of weight). You just need to eat the right things and you'll see results in the long run. It's not easy in the short term (it never is), but stick with it long enough and eventually you'll forget that you're even on a diet as you won't feel hungry, but your body fat percentage will continue to drop to a healthy level.

[HarpOnHibee]

I feel we should start a hibs.net diabetics thread tbh! :greengrin

I've been up and down lately with my sugar levels. Weight continues to be at a decent place but I'll admit I'm getting lazy with my cooking/eating better. Trying to maintain my own stuff plus cooking for the rest of the family (my 2 kids are extremely fussy) makes things challenging.

I'm still in the 'green' range for my HbA1c levels, but have gone up to around the 55 mark.

I found the Libre a bit too much information if I'm honest - I was becoming fixated on every minor adjustment in levels and what I could do to curb it. I'm back to just periodically testing myself - somewhere in the middle is probably necessary!

Hey, my HbA1c levels were 63 at the start of the year, 10 months on and they're now at 35 (I refused the Metformin that they wanted me to take for the rest of my life and said I would need to take). I "borrowed" an old indoor cycling bike from a family member and started using it several times a week. Took up weight lifting at the gym and overhauled my diet. (Ditching fast acting carbs with a diet high in lean proteins and fiber). Went from a peak weight of 98kgs (August 2023) down to 73kgs (today). With significantly lower body fat (visceral fat especially) and higher muscle mass.

When my last test (2 weeks ago) came in at 35, they told me that they couldn't believe it and didn't think it was possible for me to go into complete remission in such a short space of time. But it's absolutely possible with enough commitment.

Building muscle in particular is great for getting diabetes into remission long term. Just a few pounds of additional muscle to your physic can significantly increase insulin sensitivity.

Sorry, not saying all of this to toot my own horn. Just want you to know that it's absolutely possible and hopefully you can get some encouragement from this.

You absolutely have what it takes to kick it's ass. :aok:

[Itsnoteasy]

Hey, my HbA1c levels were 63 at the start of the year, 10 months on and they're now at 35 (I refused the Metformin that they wanted me to take for the rest of my life and said I would need to take). I "borrowed" an old indoor cycling bike from a family member and started using it several times a week. Took up weight lifting at the gym and overhauled my diet. (Ditching fast acting carbs with a diet high in lean proteins and fiber). Went from a peak weight of 98kgs (August 2023) down to 73kgs (today). With significantly lower body fat (visceral fat especially) and higher muscle mass.

When my last test (2 weeks ago) came in at 35, they told me that they couldn't believe it and didn't think it was possible for me to go into complete remission in such a short space of time. But it's absolutely possible with enough commitment.

Building muscle in particular is great for getting diabetes into remission long term. Just a few pounds of additional muscle to your physic can significantly increase insulin sensitivity.

Sorry, not saying all of this to toot my own horn. Just want you to know that it's absolutely possible and hopefully you can get some encouragement from this.

You absolutely have what it takes to kick it's ass. :aok:


Why not toot your own horn. Great achievement.

[Pretty Boy]

I started following a keto diet a couple of weeks back; firstly because I know a few people who had success with it and secondly because it seemed too good to be true. Scran steak, bacon, mince, cream, chesse, butter, eggs etc etc and still lose weight. No chance surely.

In just under a couple of weeks I have lost 16lbs/7kg. Obviously that kind of loss isn't sustainable on an ongoing basis and I'm well aware a chunk of it is water weight that has been shed as glycogen stores were depleted. And there is definitely an element of the too good to be true. The first few days were rough with a banging headache, fatigue, lack of concentration etc etc. Your body is conditioned to use carbs/glucose for energy and when you suddenly switch that off then there is going to be a payback. I'm over the worst of that now and definitely feeling a bit more energised and focused but I'm still massively struggling with carb cravings. A few times the bread bin or crisp drawer has almost got me. Definitely takes a lot of adaptation to not having that starchy, carb heavy mass on your plate. Exercise still feels harder as well, the morning cycle to work is a bit more of a slog and I believe that can take a fair few weeks to change as the body adapts to primarily burning fat for energy.

On the whole though it's been ok. It's hugely restrictive and I think I'll start to slowly reintroduce some carbs over time. Slip ups are inevitable on something so restrictive. I'm at hospitality at the game on Saturday and have an inclusive drinks package and there is no way I'll be able to resist a pint. I suppose the acid test will be how quickly I can get back on track.

[DH1875]

I started following a keto diet a couple of weeks back; firstly because I know a few people who had success with it and secondly because it seemed too good to be true. Scran steak, bacon, mince, cream, chesse, butter, eggs etc etc and still lose weight. No chance surely.

In just under a couple of weeks I have lost 16lbs/7kg. Obviously that kind of loss isn't sustainable on an ongoing basis and I'm well aware a chunk of it is water weight that has been shed as glycogen stores were depleted. And there is definitely an element of the too good to be true. The first few days were rough with a banging headache, fatigue, lack of concentration etc etc. Your body is conditioned to use carbs/glucose for energy and when you suddenly switch that off then there is going to be a payback. I'm over the worst of that now and definitely feeling a bit more energised and focused but I'm still massively struggling with carb cravings. A few times the bread bin or crisp drawer has almost got me. Definitely takes a lot of adaptation to not having that starchy, carb heavy mass on your plate. Exercise still feels harder as well, the morning cycle to work is a bit more of a slog and I believe that can take a fair few weeks to change as the body adapts to primarily burning fat for energy.

On the whole though it's been ok. It's hugely restrictive and I think I'll start to slowly reintroduce some carbs over time. Slip ups are inevitable on something so restrictive. I'm at hospitality at the game on Saturday and have an inclusive drinks package and there is no way I'll be able to resist a pint. I suppose the acid test will be how quickly I can get back on track.

Are you not allowed 10% carbs?

[Pretty Boy]

Are you not allowed 10% carbs?

Aye but that's only 40-50g of carbs on a 2000-2500 calorie intake. Or put another way one bagel or a couple of potatoes.

[Jones28]

I started following a keto diet a couple of weeks back; firstly because I know a few people who had success with it and secondly because it seemed too good to be true. Scran steak, bacon, mince, cream, chesse, butter, eggs etc etc and still lose weight. No chance surely.

In just under a couple of weeks I have lost 16lbs/7kg. Obviously that kind of loss isn't sustainable on an ongoing basis and I'm well aware a chunk of it is water weight that has been shed as glycogen stores were depleted. And there is definitely an element of the too good to be true. The first few days were rough with a banging headache, fatigue, lack of concentration etc etc. Your body is conditioned to use carbs/glucose for energy and when you suddenly switch that off then there is going to be a payback. I'm over the worst of that now and definitely feeling a bit more energised and focused but I'm still massively struggling with carb cravings. A few times the bread bin or crisp drawer has almost got me. Definitely takes a lot of adaptation to not having that starchy, carb heavy mass on your plate. Exercise still feels harder as well, the morning cycle to work is a bit more of a slog and I believe that can take a fair few weeks to change as the body adapts to primarily burning fat for energy.

On the whole though it's been ok. It's hugely restrictive and I think I'll start to slowly reintroduce some carbs over time. Slip ups are inevitable on something so restrictive. I'm at hospitality at the game on Saturday and have an inclusive drinks package and there is no way I'll be able to resist a pint. I suppose the acid test will be how quickly I can get back on track.

Brilliant results PB, I’m tempted to give it a go as well. The contents of the diet are very up my street.

[silverhibee]

Last time I weighed myself was end of September and was 17 stone and 8 pounds, just looked at this thread and went and weighed myself, 14 stone and 9 pounds, not been on any diets, go for a walk most days and have one meal a day at tea time, if I have a snack it will be a couple of rivata bran biscuits with tomatoes on them, very happy with that but might just go see my doctor to see what he thinks as I have some bowel problems.

Now just under 13 stone.

[Bridge hibs]

Now just under 13 stone.

Well done mate 👍

[LustForLeith]

Now just under 13 stone.

Well done!

[danhibees1875]

Now just under 13 stone.

Good effort!

1 meal a day in all that time?

[silverhibee]

Good effort!

1 meal a day in all that time?

Ta everyone, yip, I have my tea at tea time, a good healthy meal and drink water for the rest, I still have wee treats but crap food is a no no, not had a chippy for years last one was from Scouse Hibees as well, treated myself to a domino’s in the summer for my birthday :greengri, I do exercises every day and walk about 8 miles a day, next goal is 12 stone.

[Jones28]

Ta everyone, yip, I have my tea at tea time, a good healthy meal and drink water for the rest, I still have wee treats but crap food is a no no, not had a chippy for years last one was from Scouse Hibees as well, treated myself to a domino’s in the summer for my birthday :greengri, I do exercises every day and walk about 8 miles a day, next goal is 12 stone.

Well done mate, tremendous effort. Wish my dad would try and make a similar effort. He did Keto for a year and lost a few stone but plateaued big time because his activity level is borderline zero.

I heard him bringing logs in at the house once and I thought he was going to have a heart attack.

I’ve tried getting through to him but his laziness is so ingrained and you can’t force someone to change.

At this point I think the only thing that would kick him in the arse is some sort of scare.

[Bridge hibs]

My diabetes is all over the shop and Im due to start a diabetes remission programme thats 12 months. In May Im going to go onto 4 sachets of liquid per day and a total of only 800 calories per day for 12 weeks.

This is through my GP and the diabetic team at the Astley Ainslie hospital. Its called the diabetic remission programme and if stuck too the results can be incredible with putting my diabetes into remission, losing a lot of weight, low blood pressure and cholesterol and more importantly, being medication free.

After 12 weeks of sachets I am introduced back to food so 1 calorie controlled meal initially then building up to 2 meals etc. cant wait and Im quite excited to get started.

[GreenNWhiteArmy]

Struggling a fair bit with controlling my weight just now. Have also developed a really unhealthy relationship with food and snacking probably over the last 6-12 months

I normally keep the weight in check by running, but due to starting a new job, a bit of stress emanating from that, family life then a knee injury at the tail end of the year I hadn't ran since March last year. I managed to get out for a 2.5k hobble yesterday

Snacking is a huge issue. Crisps/biscuits are inhaled, lunch is regularly missed then dinner portions (which are generally fresh cooked protein with a carb and veg) are larger than should be

Probably need to get my mental health in a better position and tackle this relationship with food

[Pretty Boy]

Struggling a fair bit with controlling my weight just now. Have also developed a really unhealthy relationship with food and snacking probably over the last 6-12 months

I normally keep the weight in check by running, but due to starting a new job, a bit of stress emanating from that, family life then a knee injury at the tail end of the year I hadn't ran since March last year. I managed to get out for a 2.5k hobble yesterday

Snacking is a huge issue. Crisps/biscuits are inhaled, lunch is regularly missed then dinner portions (which are generally fresh cooked protein with a carb and veg) are larger than should be

Probably need to get my mental health in a better position and tackle this relationship with food

Snacking was/is always my issue.

On an average day I would have 2 coffees for breakfast, lunch would be tuna or chicken with salad and maybe some berries and then dinner would mostly be something home cooked with the odd pizza or take away thrown in at the weekend.

All sounds ok but my wife works backs shifts quite often and after the kids were in bed about 8.30 the boredom would kick in and I'd pack away a couple of cheese sandwiches, 2 or 3 Kit Kat's, a packet of crisps and a good chunk of anything else that was within grabbing distance. Between 8 and 10 I was packing away more food than I was in the rest of the day and the impact was massive.

It's a hard habit to break.

[JimBHibees]

Well done mate, tremendous effort. Wish my dad would try and make a similar effort. He did Keto for a year and lost a few stone but plateaued big time because his activity level is borderline zero.

I heard him bringing logs in at the house once and I thought he was going to have a heart attack.

I’ve tried getting through to him but his laziness is so ingrained and you can’t force someone to change.

At this point I think the only thing that would kick him in the arse is some sort of scare.

Sounds like he would benefit from couch to 5k. Difficult to get through to some people quite liked the app because you had a commentary and was giving clear directions when to jog then walk

[JimBHibees]

Snacking was/is always my issue.

On an average day I would have 2 coffees for breakfast, lunch would be tuna or chicken with salad and maybe some berries and then dinner would mostly be something home cooked with the odd pizza or take away thrown in at the weekend.

All sounds ok but my wife works backs shifts quite often and after the kids were in bed about 8.30 the boredom would kick in and I'd pack away a couple of cheese sandwiches, 2 or 3 Kit Kat's, a packet of crisps and a good chunk of anything else that was within grabbing distance. Between 8 and 10 I was packing away more food than I was in the rest of the day and the impact was massive.

It's a hard habit to break.

Crisps a nightmare for me especially when having a couple of glasses of wine with my wife

[LustForLeith]

I also have a problem with snacking

I suppose if I don’t have them in the house I won’t eat them but it’s hard. Even when I’m out and about i feel the need for crisps, sweets etc

* can’t afford/justify a gym membership
* snacking too much
* not exercising enough

I think if I can cut out snacking and walk a bit more, aiming for 14,000 steps a day, this will help