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Tom Hart RIP
22-04-2018, 02:12 PM
Says in Scotsman that there is a clause in his contract that kicks in if his German team gets relegated. They are second bottom 3points behind with 3 games left. Could be here next year with Flo. Spotted the pair walking together towards Easter Road yesterday.

SirDavidsNapper
22-04-2018, 02:15 PM
Says in Scotsman that there is a clause in his contract that kicks in if his German team gets relegated. They are second bottom 3points behind with 3 games left. Could be here next year with Flo. Spotted the pair walking together towards Easter Road yesterday.

Fingers crossed. Really like the both of them

007
22-04-2018, 02:26 PM
Says in Scotsman that there is a clause in his contract that kicks in if his German team gets relegated. They are second bottom 3points behind with 3 games left. Could be here next year with Flo. Spotted the pair walking together towards Easter Road yesterday.

Getting Kamberi signed could be the key to getting Maclaren too. Would like us to take up the option to sign Kamberi asap, which presumably is as soon as the transfer window opens.

1van Sprou7e
22-04-2018, 02:51 PM
Says in Scotsman that there is a clause in his contract that kicks in if his German team gets relegated. They are second bottom 3points behind with 3 games left. Could be here next year with Flo. Spotted the pair walking together towards Easter Road yesterday.

Can someone paste the article here? The Scotsman's website is incompatible with my phone

NORTHERNHIBBY
22-04-2018, 03:02 PM
If they go down I suspect that they will be looking to offload as opposed to cash in.

Billy Whizz
22-04-2018, 03:08 PM
Can someone paste the article here? The Scotsman's website is incompatible with my phone

You canít cut and paste, but article says thereís a clause

Nevi_SOL
22-04-2018, 03:13 PM
Maclaren has not given up on prolonging his stay in Leith, though. ďIíd love to keep the partnership with Flo going. Iíve enjoyed it thoroughly here. Myself and Flo have hit it off. It seems to be that when he doesnít score I do. We complement each other and I want to continue that. But thereís four games to go and thatís all Iím contracted to Hibs for. Thatís all I can think about. It might come down to Damstadtís position. If theyíre relegated, a clause kicks in but itís outwith my control.Ē

Read more at: https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/competitions/premiership/hibs-jamie-maclaren-rose-from-his-sick-bed-to-see-off-celtic-1-4728408

1van Sprou7e
22-04-2018, 03:14 PM
Maclaren has not given up on prolonging his stay in Leith, though. ďIíd love to keep the partnership with Flo going. Iíve enjoyed it thoroughly here. Myself and Flo have hit it off. It seems to be that when he doesnít score I do. We complement each other and I want to continue that. But thereís four games to go and thatís all Iím contracted to Hibs for. Thatís all I can think about. It might come down to Damstadtís position. If theyíre relegated, a clause kicks in but itís outwith my control.Ē

Read more at: https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/competitions/premiership/hibs-jamie-maclaren-rose-from-his-sick-bed-to-see-off-celtic-1-4728408

Straight from the horses mouth, good stuff

Billy Whizz
22-04-2018, 03:16 PM
Straight from the horses mouth, good stuff

Lennon being cagey on Kamberi though

1van Sprou7e
22-04-2018, 03:17 PM
Lennon being cagey on Kamberi though

Well it would be silly to say anything before it's confirmed

TheCat seems to be confident that he'll stay so Will be keeping my hopes up :)

ancient hibee
22-04-2018, 03:19 PM
Good display from MacLaren particularly as he had been ill.Lennon is right to be cagey.Donít want to put all your cards on the table at the outset.

Billy Whizz
22-04-2018, 03:19 PM
Well it would be silly to say anything before it's confirmed

TheCat seems to be confident that he'll stay so Will be keeping my hopes up :)

Or maybe making sure Flo doesnít switch off, which is unlikely anyway

007
22-04-2018, 03:33 PM
Can someone paste the article here? The Scotsman's website is incompatible with my phone

Your wish is granted.

Jamie Maclaren almost missed out through illness but by the end of proceedings it was Celtic feeling sick. The Australian got himself into the right place at the right time to net the opening goal as Hibs won 2-1 at Easter Road and forced Celtic to place the title champagne back on ice.

The triumph also advanced the Leith clubís hopes of catching and leapfrogging Aberdeen and Rangers for second place, keeping them within three points of the Pittodrie side and level with Graeme Murtyís men, who play this afternoon.

But Maclaren, who has been a success since joining Hibs on loan in January, revealed he was a major doubt for the head to head. ďI didnít travel with the boys to the team hotel because I was sick, I had a stomach bug. But I was in touch with the staff, saying donít rule me out. I really wanted to play in this game and I woke up on Saturday morning and went for a walk. I felt a little bit better but I had no energy from the start. I wasnít well but adrenaline kicks in.

ďI was honest with the manager before the game. He didnít want me to let myself or my team-mates down so I told him Iíd give him everything for as long as I could. He gave me trust and I gave it back.

ďItís important to have a manager who believes in you and Neil does with me. He gives everyone a sense of belief, whoever youíre playing against. Celtic will be champions but we were the better side today. We know whatís at stake now and itís important we keep winning, especially at home.Ē


The victory makes the Hibs challenge impossible to ignore, while the form of both Maclaren, who has now netted in victories over Rangers, Celtic and derby rivals Hearts, and his strike-mate Florian Kamberi have elevated their gafferís desire to tie them up on longer-term deals.

Both men arrived in the winter transfer window and while there is an option on the Swiss playerís deal, there is no such clause they can activate in the Aussieís contract. Which is a disappointment to both manager and player.

ďWe have an option on Kamberi and the more he plays the more we want do it,Ē said Lennon, delighted with the input from all his players on the day and well aware of the part played by the January signings in providing the clinical finish that had been lacking earlier in the campaign. ďMaclaren could be a difficult one because heís contracted to Darmstadt. Weíre very pleased with what heís brought Ė the two of them have been excellent as have the stalwarts.

ďStevenson and Hanlon were excellent as was Ambrose, he seems to play his best games against Celtic. I could not fault any of them and thatís what you need.

ďI would imagine there will be a lot of interest in Kamberi but we have the option and at the minute weíre in control of that situation. Thereís a set fee. Itís something weíd like to look at but weíve got four games to go and that will depend on how the season finishes as well, that will dictate how much money we can and canít spend.Ē

Maclaren has not given up on prolonging his stay in Leith, though. ďIíd love to keep the partnership with Flo going. Iíve enjoyed it thoroughly here. Myself and Flo have hit it off. It seems to be that when he doesnít score I do. We complement each other and I want to continue that. But thereís four games to go and thatís all Iím contracted to Hibs for. Thatís all I can think about. It might come down to Damstadtís position. If theyíre relegated, a clause kicks in but itís outwith my control.Ē

The 24-year-old has plenty to occupy him while matters are decided, assisting Hibs to finish on a high and securing his place in the Aussie World Cup squad for Russia. ďIf my performances are good, good things will happen. This could be the biggest few months of my career.Ē

hibby6270
22-04-2018, 04:15 PM
Apologies for hijacking a Jamie thread but the Flo situation sounds very similar to the position we were in with Griffiths if Iím reading the Scotsman quote correctly?
Donít know the amount of the fee involved (assuming thatís what is holding us back from taking up the option early) but Ďonce bitten, twice shyí as the saying goes. Letís hope it doesnít come down to an odd £100K as to whether we sign or donít sign Flo. I understand financially it has to be right but it must be worth the risk given how he has played so far?

Billy Whizz
22-04-2018, 04:25 PM
Apologies for hijacking a Jamie thread but the Flo situation sounds very similar to the position we were in with Griffiths if Iím reading the Scotsman quote correctly?
Donít know the amount of the fee involved (assuming thatís what is holding us back from taking up the option early) but Ďonce bitten, twice shyí as the saying goes. Letís hope it doesnít come down to an odd £100K as to whether we sign or donít sign Flo. I understand financially it has to be right but it must be worth the risk given how he has played so far?

Hibs have said that they are happy with the fee in question

MyJo
22-04-2018, 04:30 PM
Hibs have said that they are happy with the fee in question

Surely the fee and everything is agreed in advance in this kind of deal and it will now be a case of getting a suitable contract negotiated with Flo for him to stay on a permanent basis. He has done himself no harm in those talks by the way he has been playing and we must surely be looking to tie him in to a 3 or 4 year deal.

Michael
22-04-2018, 05:03 PM
Apologies for hijacking a Jamie thread but the Flo situation sounds very similar to the position we were in with Griffiths if Iím reading the Scotsman quote correctly?
Donít know the amount of the fee involved (assuming thatís what is holding us back from taking up the option early) but Ďonce bitten, twice shyí as the saying goes. Letís hope it doesnít come down to an odd £100K as to whether we sign or donít sign Flo. I understand financially it has to be right but it must be worth the risk given how he has played so far?

I don't recall us ever agreeing a fee for Griffiths though.

hibby6270
22-04-2018, 05:06 PM
Hibs have said that they are happy with the fee in question

Maybe so, but my point was, were we not happy with the Griffiths fee but just didn’t/couldn’t pay it. Ended up being an error of judgement shall we say. Just wouldn’t want to see history repeating itself when we hold the cards.

Col2
22-04-2018, 05:07 PM
Hibs are rightly playing down the Kamberi option.

It will be an option to buy him from his club at a set fee.

If Kamberi gets more and more publicity between now and end of season then what stops him wanting to sign for another club for more money.

Maclarenís club do look like they are odds on to go down given only 3 games to go and in relegation place and 3 points behind. Wouldnít surprise me if we can secure a deal in early stages of window. Again if he goes on and scores a few and is called up to World Cup squad our chance get slimmer.

Lancs Harp
22-04-2018, 05:20 PM
Maclaren hasnt been a regular in Germany, in a struggling side, I'd say if Darmstadt got relegated, as seems likely, they will want to offload. Whether he ends up with us is another question of course but I'd be amazed if he made another appearance for Darmstadt.

ancient hibee
22-04-2018, 05:26 PM
Maybe so, but my point was, were we not happy with the Griffiths fee but just didnít/couldnít pay it. Ended up being an error of judgement shall we say. Just wouldnít want to see history repeating itself when we hold the cards.
As far as I know there was never a fee for a transfer in the Griffiths loan deal.The situation here is totally different.A transfer fee is already agreed and the question is whether an acceptable deal can be arranged between Hibs and the player which means weíre in a poker phase.

Ozyhibby
22-04-2018, 05:30 PM
If Hibs have an option for Flo then it will be agreed with Grasshoppers and Kamberri himself. If itís not, then the option is not worth the paper itís written on.


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Billy Whizz
22-04-2018, 05:31 PM
Maybe so, but my point was, were we not happy with the Griffiths fee but just didnít/couldnít pay it. Ended up being an error of judgement shall we say. Just wouldnít want to see history repeating itself when we hold the cards.

Maybe the Griffiths fee was out of our reach, where as the Kamberi one isnít

What we donít know is what sort of wage heís on with his current club, does it fit in with our wage structure

Aim Here
22-04-2018, 05:32 PM
Hibs are rightly playing down the Kamberi option.

It will be an option to buy him from his club at a set fee.

If Kamberi gets more and more publicity between now and end of season then what stops him wanting to sign for another club for more money.


His contract.

If he does get hyped up so much that a major club wants to throw silly money at us to take him off our hands (and by extension, unsettling Flo so he doesn't want to play for little Hibs no more), then won't we be able to win something by exercising the option and selling on instantly? We don't necessarily get a player, but we do get free money instead (albeit Grasshoppers probably gets a cut if we sell Flo on at a profit).

jacomo
22-04-2018, 05:34 PM
As far as I know there was never a fee for a transfer in the Griffiths loan deal.The situation here is totally different.A transfer fee is already agreed and the question is whether an acceptable deal can be arranged between Hibs and the player which means weíre in a poker phase.


Come on now. We all know the fee was £150k and Wolves even took Petrie out on the lash to persuade him to do the deal but the moustachioed one refused out of sheer stubbornness. FACT.

:wink:

ancient hibee
22-04-2018, 05:39 PM
Come on now. We all know the fee was £150k and Wolves even took Petrie out on the lash to persuade him to do the deal but the moustachioed one refused out of sheer stubbornness. FACT.

:wink:
Youíre right.I know that because Iíve read it on here many times.

jgl07
22-04-2018, 05:59 PM
Come on now. We all know the fee was £150k and Wolves even took Petrie out on the lash to persuade him to do the deal but the moustachioed one refused out of sheer stubbornness. FACT.

:wink:
Not a FACT, it is a Hibs-net FACT!

007
22-04-2018, 09:16 PM
Bet he's glad he picked us over Hearts. He must be doing his chances of getting in the Socceroos world cup squad a lot of good. A cheeky wee brace next week against Killie would go down a treat.

Hibbyradge
22-04-2018, 11:24 PM
Maybe so, but my point was, were we not happy with the Griffiths fee but just didnít/couldnít pay it. Ended up being an error of judgement shall we say. Just wouldnít want to see history repeating itself when we hold the cards.

We were never offered Griffiths.

It's an internet myth.

ian cruise
23-04-2018, 03:02 AM
Maybe so, but my point was, were we not happy with the Griffiths fee but just didnít/couldnít pay it. Ended up being an error of judgement shall we say. Just wouldnít want to see history repeating itself when we hold the cards.

It's almost the opposite from the Griffiths situation. With Griffiths the situation was that Wolves had an option to extend his contract for a year, which they took up. By doing so it meant he wasn't available to us any longer as they wanted a 7 figure sum to sell. Here the fee is already agreed between all parties, it's will be the individual player's negotiation still to come.

Even the article above, where MacLaren is talking about how Neil motivates and trusts the players, leads me to believe Flo will know exactly where we stand and negotiations will be quick. He himself talked about how grasshopper showed him disrespect but its very different here.

BILLYHIBS
23-04-2018, 07:59 AM
Jamie McLaren was a superstar in the A League in Australia and we are very fortunate to have him.He is a player who will always get you a goal always in the right place at the right time a real fox in the box.IMO he will be better for us in the long run than Jase if we manage to keep a hold of him.Once again a brilliant piece of business by Neil Lennon and his back room staff who should be congratulated.

GGTTH

we are hibs
23-04-2018, 08:05 AM
I think Flo feels comfortable at hibs and you could see it in his celebration after the second goal on Saturday. The fans love him and he loves the fans. He'd do himself no harm in signing and probably playing European football and having a crack at 2 cups next season


maclaren is a goal scorer. He will get plenty chances created for him at hibs and would have good publicity like for his goals against hearts, Celtic and rangers to get himself back into the Australia squad.

lord bunberry
23-04-2018, 08:48 AM
He needs to have someone like Kamberi doing all the running as other than putting the ball in the net his contribution to the game is even less than Cummings was. Lennon said it as well that if heís not scoring heís not really involved in the game.
Hopefully we can keep the two of them as sometimes two players just click and find that understanding and itís not something that comes along that often.

BILLYHIBS
23-04-2018, 09:36 AM
He needs to have someone like Kamberi doing all the running as other than putting the ball in the net his contribution to the game is even less than Cummings was. Lennon said it as well that if heís not scoring heís not really involved in the game.
Hopefully we can keep the two of them as sometimes two players just click and find that understanding and itís not something that comes along that often.
Lenny dropped Jase for not doing what he was paid to do on a regular basis in a lower league with a hatful of chances.No complaints on MacLarens return so far though take your point that Flo does do most of the graft.Do not remember Jase scoring for us in the big games at Hampden Panenka penalty with the Pirlo haircut springs to mind against the Arabs putting his own ego before the goal of the team.

Jones28
23-04-2018, 09:42 AM
Hibs have said that they are happy with the fee in question

This would imply that the ball is in Flo's court - he's made light work of becoming a fans favourite and surely would be open to moving here permenantly?

lord bunberry
23-04-2018, 09:44 AM
Lenny dropped Jase for not doing what he was paid to do on a regular basis in a lower league with a hatful of chances.No complaints on MacLarens return so far though take your point that Flo does do most of the graft.Do not remember Jase scoring for us in the big games at Hampden Panenka penalty with the Pirlo haircut springs to mind against the Arabs putting his own ego before the goal of the team.
Iíve no complaints about MacLaren either, heís doing exactly what we brought him into do. Being in the right place at the right time is a skill in itself.

Jones28
23-04-2018, 09:47 AM
Iíve no complaints about MacLaren either, heís doing exactly what we brought him into do. Being in the right place at the right time is a skill in itself.

His off the ball work is immense - I can't remember a partnership that worked so well so quickly at Hibs before. Our scouting system is starting to come good after years of utter dreck.

BILLYHIBS
23-04-2018, 10:37 AM
His off the ball work is immense - I can't remember a partnership that worked so well so quickly at Hibs before. Our scouting system is starting to come good after years of utter dreck.
Gordon and Orourke

Centre Hawf
23-04-2018, 10:45 AM
His contract.

If he does get hyped up so much that a major club wants to throw silly money at us to take him off our hands (and by extension, unsettling Flo so he doesn't want to play for little Hibs no more), then won't we be able to win something by exercising the option and selling on instantly? We don't necessarily get a player, but we do get free money instead (albeit Grasshoppers probably gets a cut if we sell Flo on at a profit).

It depends what the deal is. The loan deal with Grasshoppers might mean for example we can buy him for £150k at any point but all that would entitle us to do is to bid £150k and automatically be given permission to speak to Flo. He might, however, have no contractual obligation to join us permanently which would open the door for someone to come bid perhaps the same £150k or more and offer him more money.

But we don't know the ins and outs of it all and the same goes for Maclaren, what we can take from it all though is that we have all the plans in place and a great opportunity to retain the services of two lads who look like they enjoy playing with us and with each other.

Humo
23-04-2018, 10:50 AM
He needs to have someone like Kamberi doing all the running as other than putting the ball in the net his contribution to the game is even less than Cummings was. Lennon said it as well that if heís not scoring heís not really involved in the game.
Hopefully we can keep the two of them as sometimes two players just click and find that understanding and itís not something that comes along that often.I think he contributes a lot more than Cummings did. His runs off the the ball are always very intelligent and draw a man opening more space for his team mates.



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Jones28
23-04-2018, 12:23 PM
Gordon and Orourke

In my lifetime*

FilipinoHibs
23-04-2018, 12:31 PM
Not a FACT, it is a Hibs-net FACT!

As good as true then:)

BILLYHIBS
23-04-2018, 12:44 PM
In my lifetime*
Apologies! Feel sorry for you. Missed out on a well trained organised green machine in which everyone knew their jobs and their positions a joy to watch.The best brand of football the worlds ever seen! It was like watching a game of chess the ball was always rolled out from the back by the goalie and was always kept on the deck to play football the HIBS way. If the move broke down they would simply start again. A team blessed by brilliant brilliant players and a very good and knowledgeable Head Coach.Indeed Gordon and Orourke scored 132 HIBS goals between them though not all as a partnership and if Jamie and Flo can match that I will be well pleased.

GGTTH

ancient hibee
23-04-2018, 03:16 PM
He needs to have someone like Kamberi doing all the running as other than putting the ball in the net his contribution to the game is even less than Cummings was. Lennon said it as well that if he’s not scoring he’s not really involved in the game.
Hopefully we can keep the two of them as sometimes two players just click and find that understanding and it’s not something that comes along that often.
Have to say that is so wide of the mark.He runs centre halves from side to side and takes them away from Kamberi.Must admit I have not seen that Lennon quote,where was it?

JimBHibees
23-04-2018, 03:24 PM
Have to say that is so wide of the mark.He runs centre halves from side to side and takes them away from Kamberi.Must admit I have not seen that Lennon quote,where was it?

Agree totally his movement and workrate is exceptional. Makes great runs which guys like Allan and Swanson will appreciate.

blackpoolhibs
23-04-2018, 03:32 PM
Agree totally his movement and workrate is exceptional. Makes great runs which guys like Allan and Swanson will appreciate.

Both McLaren and Kamberi close down the defenders properly, they dont do it half hearted like Cummings and Stokes did.

And by doing this, we regain the ball much earlier than we did before, and their movement has defenders turning much more which then gets us as a team further up the park as a unit now, and not so stretched as we were.

Love them both. :top marks

Ozyhibby
23-04-2018, 03:37 PM
Both McLaren and Kamberi close down the defenders properly, they dont do it half hearted like Cummings and Stokes did.

And by doing this, we regain the ball much earlier than we did before, and their movement has defenders turning much more which then gets us as a team further up the park as a unit now, and not so stretched as we were.

Love them both. :top marks

Spot on. They are both very clever forwards. Hope to see them both back next season.


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lord bunberry
23-04-2018, 07:52 PM
Have to say that is so wide of the mark.He runs centre halves from side to side and takes them away from Kamberi.Must admit I have not seen that Lennon quote,where was it?
On Hibs tv. Running centre halves is something anyone can do, they canít just ignore the striker. He does it very well, and more importantly he finds space in the box