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PatHead
10-04-2018, 02:56 PM
A great chance for the Spfl to promote the game by bigging up the post split. As usual a missed opportunity.

Steven79
10-04-2018, 02:56 PM
https://stv.tv/sport/football/1412113-football-talk-fixtures-talks-impasse-de-boer-to-rangers/

Talks over when teams will play each other after the split appear to have reached a stand-off.
The prospect of Celtic being able to win the title against rivals Rangers had seen the SPFL delay the announcement of the post-split fixtures until after the final round of regular season games.
With the final standings for each half confirmed, league bosses had been expected to publish the full post-schedule as early as Monday.
But talks over the arrangement of the final top-flight fixtures are apparently at deadlock.
According to reports, it could be as late as Friday until the plans are finally unveiled.

hibee_girl
10-04-2018, 03:00 PM
https://stv.tv/sport/football/1412113-football-talk-fixtures-talks-impasse-de-boer-to-rangers/

Talks over when teams will play each other after the split appear to have reached a stand-off.
The prospect of Celtic being able to win the title against rivals Rangers had seen the SPFL delay the announcement of the post-split fixtures until after the final round of regular season games.
With the final standings for each half confirmed, league bosses had been expected to publish the full post-schedule as early as Monday.
But talks over the arrangement of the final top-flight fixtures are apparently at deadlock.
According to reports, it could be as late as Friday until the plans are finally unveiled.




How ridiculous. If they can’t make a decision today then what’s to say they’ll be able to make one by Friday?!

I know it doesn’t help us in any way but they could at least let the bottom 6 teams know their fixtures

Geo_1875
10-04-2018, 03:00 PM
https://stv.tv/sport/football/1412113-football-talk-fixtures-talks-impasse-de-boer-to-rangers/

Talks over when teams will play each other after the split appear to have reached a stand-off.
The prospect of Celtic being able to win the title against rivals Rangers had seen the SPFL delay the announcement of the post-split fixtures until after the final round of regular season games.
With the final standings for each half confirmed, league bosses had been expected to publish the full post-schedule as early as Monday.
But talks over the arrangement of the final top-flight fixtures are apparently at deadlock.
According to reports, it could be as late as Friday until the plans are finally unveiled.




Deadlock??? The governing body announce who is playing when and SKY can go **** themselves.

Scottish Football does itself no favours.

munchar
10-04-2018, 03:01 PM
Why not work out the home & away fixtures FAIRLY, then just draw the weekly games out a 🎩 hat.
If The Old Firm can’t behave, punish them. I’ll guarantee there’ll be games that are favorable to they 2. It should be a level playing field. Don’t see why they can’t play a league decider. There’ll be trouble whatever the game is.

JimBHibees
10-04-2018, 03:06 PM
I think it's safe to say we don't want Celtic as our first game, the SPFL have made it very clear that they don't want to chance an old firm title decider. Celtic will get every decision going in their next league game :agree:

Unfortunately that is exactly what will happen in that scenario. Absolutely petrified of their own shadows.

Mikey
10-04-2018, 03:08 PM
It would be nice if one of the clubs could come out and tell their fans what's going on. Our club is reasonably good at communicating nowadays, maybe they could do it!........

Gmack7
10-04-2018, 03:08 PM
could it be teams arguing against going to ibrox 3 times? there's a lot of money involved

Billy Whizz
10-04-2018, 03:09 PM
It would be nice if one of the clubs could come out and tell their fans what's going on. Our club is reasonably good at communicating nowadays, maybe they could do it!........

I agree, too much silence from all 12 clubs

Steven79
10-04-2018, 03:10 PM
could it be teams arguing against going to ibrox 3 times? there's a lot of money involved

But not as much as people are claiming as it's only walk ups and away support as the the home fans have mostly paid in season ticket money and are losing a home game.

Two two teams fans that are heading to Ibrox for a third time should get in for free and half of the home support at Ibrox.

Billy Whizz
10-04-2018, 03:14 PM
But not as much as people are claiming as it's only walk ups and away support as the the home fans have mostly paid in season ticket money and are losing a home game.

Two two teams fans that are heading to Ibrox for a third time should get in for free and half of the home support at Ibrox.

In Hibs case, going to Ibrox 3 times would cost us
6,000 walk up fans at around £20 (Vat deducted) = £120,000
1000 hospitality at around £100 = £100,000
So a min £220,000
That’s a lot of money to a club like Hibs

Ozyhibby
10-04-2018, 03:15 PM
Could be that the clubs are fighting their own corners hard. In the absence of rules, they need everyone to agree.


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Michael
10-04-2018, 03:15 PM
But not as much as people are claiming as it's only walk ups and away support as the the home fans have mostly paid in season ticket money and are losing a home game.

Two two teams fans that are heading to Ibrox for a third time should get in for free and half of the home support at Ibrox.

Probably around 100K - that's a lot for us.

Geo_1875
10-04-2018, 03:16 PM
But not as much as people are claiming as it's only walk ups and away support as the the home fans have mostly paid in season ticket money and are losing a home game.

Two two teams fans that are heading to Ibrox for a third time should get in for free and half of the home support at Ibrox.

I don't know what others are claiming but we'd lose around £200k for a game against Sevco. We can't afford to lose that sort of money.

Ozyhibby
10-04-2018, 03:16 PM
In Hibs case, going to Ibrox 3 times would cost us
6,000 walk up fans at around £20 (Vat deducted) = £120,000
1000 hospitality at around £100 = £100,000
So a min £220,000
That’s a lot of money to a club like Hibs

Not to mention our greater chance of winning at home (I know our recent record at Ibrox is good) and getting more prize money and Euro qualification.


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YanYansen
10-04-2018, 03:16 PM
This really is a ****ing joke, it's depressing. The worst thing is that as paying fans, we are completely impotent. We just have to stand around watching these morons fumble around and **** everything up.

davhibby
10-04-2018, 03:17 PM
But not as much as people are claiming as it's only walk ups and away support as the the home fans have mostly paid in season ticket money and are losing a home game.

Two two teams fans that are heading to Ibrox for a third time should get in for free and half of the home support at Ibrox.

Killie should be going for a third time because they'll get 19 games at home anyway. Hearts made extra money out of playing Rangers at Murrayfield earlier in the season so they shouldn't have any complaints either.

Aim Here
10-04-2018, 03:17 PM
Deadlock??? The governing body announce who is playing when and SKY can go **** themselves.

Scottish Football does itself no favours.

I suspect that the police are part of the problem here, and telling the police to go **** themselves is trickier to do, (though no less satisfying).

Steven79
10-04-2018, 03:17 PM
Could be that the clubs are fighting their own corners hard. In the absence of rules, they need everyone to agree.


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At this rate next season could have started before they have decided! The split needs to go as it's a ****ing farce and I'm away on Thursday and don't get back till Sunday and need to book trains asap for the fixtures.

Aim Here
10-04-2018, 03:20 PM
Killie should be going for a third time because they'll get 19 games at home anyway. Hearts made extra money out of playing Rangers at Murrayfield earlier in the season so they shouldn't have any complaints either.

Murrayfield would have had a higher ticket sales, sure, but Hearts wouldn't have kept all of it - they'd have needed to pass some on to the guys that own Murrayfield. I don't know enough about the economics to hazard a guess whether they made or lost more than they would have done at Tynecastle. Even without extra money, I suppose the SPFL did them a favour by rearranging a few fixtures and waiving the rule forbidding teams to swap stadiums mid-season, so there's an argument that the quid-pro quo is the extra Ibrox game.

jgl07
10-04-2018, 03:24 PM
In Hibs case, going to Ibrox 3 times would cost us
6,000 walk up fans at around £20 (Vat deducted) = £120,000
1000 hospitality at around £100 = £100,000
So a min £220,000
That’s a lot of money to a club like Hibs

Also every Hibs season ticket holder would be deprived of a home match they have paid for. We have paid for 19 matches and might only end up with 18.

Bloody stupid system in the first place. Cocked-up by the SPFL comedians in terms of seeding, and turning into a running farce.

Hibbyradge
10-04-2018, 03:25 PM
In Hibs case, going to Ibrox 3 times would cost us
6,000 walk up fans at around £20 (Vat deducted) = £120,000
1000 hospitality at around £100 = £100,000
So a min £220,000
That’s a lot of money to a club like Hibs

Plus TV money and additional sponsorship.

Steven79
10-04-2018, 03:26 PM
Also every Hibs season ticket holder would be deprived of a home match they have paid for. We have paid for 19 matches and might only end up with 18.

Bloody stupid system in the first place. Cocked-up by the SPFL comedians in terms of seeding, and turning into a running farce.

All the fans of the other ten teams should contact their clubs telling them exactly what they think of this farce and get them them to pressure the league to sort it ASAP!

Crazyhorse
10-04-2018, 03:27 PM
Had to be 2-2...

https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2012/jun/18/euro-2012-sweden-denmark-2-2

I remember watching the 1982 Austria v West Germany fixed game in the World Cup which put out Algeria. Arrogant ****my Germans with chief ****bag Shumacher in goals had been turned over by Algeria in the earlier game after boasting about how many goals they were going to score.

Billy Whizz
10-04-2018, 03:28 PM
Plus TV money and additional sponsorship.

And resale of seats that fans can’t make

Hibbyradge
10-04-2018, 03:29 PM
I suspect that the police are part of the problem here, and telling the police to go **** themselves is trickier to do, (though no less satisfying).

Daily Record are saying it's the police who have put a spanner in the works.

Steven79
10-04-2018, 03:30 PM
Daily Record are saying it's the police who have put a spanner in the works.

So Sky obviously want the game to the on the 21st and I can't blame them as in any other country it would be on tv!

Crazyhorse
10-04-2018, 03:39 PM
Why would a league winning game be anymore charged than say a cup semi final as is happening this Sunday? Makes no sense.

Quite funny the ridiculous hype this game gets from the TV channels yet they arent able to play in case one of the teams wins the league. Get a grip.

The chronic under reporting of the trouble this game causes in certain areas of the country is a disgrace also. The cowardice and lack of leadership is shameful across the board.

I agree. The split itself is a ludicrous bollox of an idea. But this year it is tied in with the pathetic grovelling to the infirm exceptionalism which characterises Scottish football. Not a sign of anyone ever standing up to this ****** sh@te and unfortunately our club are as guilty as any other actor in this farce.

Billy Whizz
10-04-2018, 03:42 PM
Think these are the ones to blame
Recognise any names!

https://spfl.co.uk/news/article/spfl-clubs-elect-board-for-1718/

Canon Hannan
10-04-2018, 03:44 PM
Surely the only people not wanting Celtic v Rangers to be a 7 in a row party are Rangers? Nobody else is bothered. Plus the police. But then Glasgow Police are Rangers 😁

Swedish hibee
10-04-2018, 03:46 PM
Shambles. Plain & simple. (Before LB comments I'm being anti Scottish again!)

greenlex
10-04-2018, 04:19 PM
Maybe Hearts have been told as they have nowt to play for they are the team to go to Ibrox three time and Budge is not for budging and kicking off as the really need the cash from the home gate.

Billy Whizz
10-04-2018, 04:20 PM
Maybe Hearts have been told as they have nowt to play for they are the team to go to Ibrox three time and Budge is not for budging and kicking off as the really need the cash from the home gate.

My thinking too, and she’s a board member

Famous Fiver
10-04-2018, 04:24 PM
Petrie nowhere to be seen in SPFL. Think he is an SFA wallah.

That makes me think we will be heading to Ibrox for a third time. Dead cert, in my opinion.

Wee Annie will get her way.

Sauzee16
10-04-2018, 04:29 PM
Is the other game at Ibrox or the PBS?

Ibrox on the Sunday. May have changed now, obviously.

Mikey
10-04-2018, 04:38 PM
Ibrox on the Sunday. May have changed now, obviously.

So that would mean us having Rangers at home then.

Sounds good to me :greengrin

Billy Whizz
10-04-2018, 04:41 PM
So that would mean us having Rangers at home then.

Sounds good to me :greengrin

Mikey I’m confused, who’s at Ibrox on the Sunday?

Cod Boy
10-04-2018, 04:59 PM
Not a chance of it happening but why can’t Celtic not get sent to Ibrox 3 times. But the rest of the teams will be told to go and get on with it.

makaveli1875
10-04-2018, 05:03 PM
Not a chance of it happening but why can’t Celtic not get sent to Ibrox 3 times. But the rest of the teams will be told to go and get on with it.

this , imagine the carnage if celtic won the title at greyskull

CorrieHibs
10-04-2018, 05:08 PM
this , imagine the carnage if celtic won the title at greyskull

They could have in 2011 or something and lost. There was no problem then. The police must not be as confident in a Rangers win these days.

Mikey
10-04-2018, 05:13 PM
Mikey I’m confused, who’s at Ibrox on the Sunday?

I was asking about the other game on the first weekend. Rangers and Hearts hadn't been mentioned, so if it's at Ibrox as suggested then we'll have Rangers at home.

If it's correct that is...........

Hibs1969
10-04-2018, 05:13 PM
Think these are the ones to blame
Recognise any names!

https://spfl.co.uk/news/article/spfl-clubs-elect-board-for-1718/

Murdoch (Murdo) MacLennan now Chief Executive of the SPFL - I had forgotten about that. Try having a look at Private Eye and their views on him during his time as CEO of the Daily & Sunday Telegraph Scathing doesn't begin to describe them and it's no wonder they are making a pig's ear of the post split fixtures.

danhibees1875
10-04-2018, 05:16 PM
Not a chance of it happening but why can’t Celtic not get sent to Ibrox 3 times. But the rest of the teams will be told to go and get on with it.

They wouldn't send Hibs to tynecastle 3 times either.

Keith_M
10-04-2018, 05:22 PM
They wouldn't send Hibs to tynecastle 3 times either.


Would be difficult, in light of the fact we're only played one league game at Tyncastle this season.


:wink:

Billy Whizz
10-04-2018, 05:23 PM
This is just not about the top 6, must be some issues in the bottom 6 as well

tamig
10-04-2018, 05:24 PM
This is just not about the top 6, must be some issues in the bottom 6 as well

They don’t have the OF though. The whole situation is farcical.

danhibees1875
10-04-2018, 05:26 PM
Would be difficult, in light of the fact we're only played one league game at Tyncastle this season.


:wink:

I meant generally, or vice versa. :greengrin

Billy Whizz
10-04-2018, 05:26 PM
They don’t have the OF though. The whole situation is farcical.

It is, but they could have released bottom 6

Glory Lurker
10-04-2018, 05:27 PM
This is just not about the top 6, must be some issues in the bottom 6 as well

I'd imagine releasing the bottom 6 fixtures but not the top 6 would just make it all look even more farcical.

Carheenlea
10-04-2018, 05:29 PM
this , imagine the carnage if celtic won the title at greyskull

Don’t see what the big deal for Old Firm fans seeing their rivals win a league title against them. What’s another when they share over 100 between them. For the rest of us, where winning major silverware is more infrequent, it’s a far bigger deal.
There would be no more or no less bother at an Old Firm title decider than a standard league game or cup cup tie in my opinion. If they are that worried about it, just play behind closed doors.

tamig
10-04-2018, 05:30 PM
I'd imagine releasing the bottom 6 fixtures but not the top 6 would just make it all look even more farcical.

Indeed.

Billy Whizz
10-04-2018, 05:34 PM
Just heard Roger Hannah (Sun journalist) on Clyde Sportsound just now. He said the only thing he’s aware of is, Celtic V Rangers is on Sunday 29th April
He said he’s no idea where the hold up is, said the SPFL could be blameless. Could be Sky/BT digging in over KO times

He said they did the pre Scottish Cup semi final review with Aberdeen today. Derek McInnes was asking the press where his team would be playing next!

Mantis Toboggan
10-04-2018, 05:35 PM
Don’t see what the big deal for Old Firm fans seeing their rivals win a league title against them. What’s another when they share over 100 between them. For the rest of us, where winning major silverware is more infrequent, it’s a far bigger deal.
There would be no more or no less bother at an Old Firm title decider than a standard league game or cup cup tie in my opinion. If they are that worried about it, just play behind closed doors.

The game that is always referred to here is Parkhead 1999 when Rangers (dec. 2012) won the league resulting in much missile mischief.
However I agree and don't see why the rest of us should be inconvenienced due to the inability of old firm knuckle draggers to refrain from lobbing the meagre contents of their wallets at referees.

Cod Boy
10-04-2018, 05:36 PM
The semi final could end Rangers season at the weekend surely that’s more of a powderkeg for the police with 50/50 support at the game.

hfc rd
10-04-2018, 05:36 PM
This really is a ****ing joke, it's depressing. The worst thing is that as paying fans, we are completely impotent. We just have to stand around watching these morons fumble around and **** everything up.

Couldn’t agree more. Just shows that Scottish football is run by a bunch of clueless idiots who couldn’t organise a piss-up in a brewery.

Steven79
10-04-2018, 05:37 PM
I'd imagine releasing the bottom 6 fixtures but not the top 6 would just make it all look even more farcical.

Could it look any more farcical at this stage? This kind of **** turns fans away from the game...

Sauzee16
10-04-2018, 05:37 PM
Just heard Roger Hannah (Sun journalist) on Clyde Sportsound just now. He said the only thing he’s aware of is, Celtic V Rangers is on Sunday 29th April
He said he’s no idea where the hold up is, said the SPFL could be blameless. Could be Sky/BT digging in over KO times

He said they did the pre Scottish Cup semi final review with Aberdeen today. Derek McInnes was asking the press where his team would be playing next!

Celtic fans know their first match is at Celtic Park on the midday sat

Steven79
10-04-2018, 05:38 PM
Celtic fans know their first match is at Celtic Park on the midday sat

Against Aberdeen?

Looking at their forums it dosen't look like they know much and anybody saying otherwise is just guessing.

Daydreamer
10-04-2018, 05:40 PM
So lets get this right. They can't play the Old firm game first cos Celtic might win the league if they beat the Huns.
They can't play it second cos Celtic might lose their first game and the other two might win theirs meaning that Celtic could win it against the Huns the second game.
They can't play it the third game cos its a holiday weekend and Police Scotland don't want that.
They can't play it the fourth game cos that's the midweek game and low and behold playing an OF game then.
And they definitely can't play it the last game as Celtic would be unfurling the flag.

CONFUSED

Sauzee16
10-04-2018, 05:41 PM
Against Aberdeen?

Looking at their forums it dosen't look like they know much and anybody saying otherwise is just guessing.

Their supporters club have been advised it will be home Sat lunchtime was Aberdeen this morning but still be re-assured when it comes to booking flights etc. Lawwel is on the SPFL board too.

Billy Whizz
10-04-2018, 05:42 PM
Their supporters club have been advised it will be home Sat lunchtime was Aberdeen this morning but still be re-assured when it comes to booking flights etc. Lawwel is on the SPFL board too.

He isn’t on the SPFL board

Sauzee16
10-04-2018, 05:47 PM
He isn’t on the SPFL board

https://spfl.co.uk/news/article/spfl-clubs-elect-board-for-1718/

Billy Whizz
10-04-2018, 05:51 PM
https://spfl.co.uk/news/article/spfl-clubs-elect-board-for-1718/

Apologies my mistake, couldn't see his name on it

Hiber-nation
10-04-2018, 05:53 PM
https://spfl.co.uk/news/article/spfl-clubs-elect-board-for-1718/

He's an SPFL appointment to the Scottish FA Professional Game Board but not on the main SPFL board.

I'm sure it all makes sense to someone.

lord bunberry
10-04-2018, 05:56 PM
Shambles. Plain & simple. (Before LB comments I'm being anti Scottish again!)
:rolleyes:

Libby Hibby
10-04-2018, 05:56 PM
How about, we release the first round of fixtures, see the results, then work out what needs to be played for the second round of fixtures so there is no old firm title decider, see the result, then work out the third round is to be and so on and so on....something, anything is better than this, surely...

Stonewall
10-04-2018, 05:59 PM
Murdoch (Murdo) MacLennan now Chief Executive of the SPFL - I had forgotten about that. Try having a look at Private Eye and their views on him during his time as CEO of the Daily & Sunday Telegraph Scathing doesn't begin to describe them and it's no wonder they are making a pig's ear of the post split fixtures.

He had the honour of 2 nicknames: Shifty McGifty and Lavish McTavish.

tamig
10-04-2018, 06:07 PM
How about, we release the first round of fixtures, see the results, then work out what needs to be played for the second round of fixtures so there is no old firm title decider, see the result, then work out the third round is to be and so on and so on....something, anything is better than this, surely...

The whole thing is shambolic. An OF title decider appears to be their worst nightmare. They should just get on with it.

Joe6-2
10-04-2018, 06:12 PM
The whole thing is shambolic. An OF title decider appears to be their worst nightmare. They should just get on with it.

Absolute joke, Scottish footballs blazers as usual doing everything around those two

Sauzee16
10-04-2018, 06:14 PM
Apologies my mistake, couldn't see his name on it

No worries. He switched sides from the SFA which gave him a free shot at what he didn’t say about Rod a few months back.

Real Emerald
10-04-2018, 06:16 PM
The whole thing is shambolic. An OF title decider appears to be their worst nightmare. They should just get on with it.

They’re that worried about the greatest most atmospheric game on the world???! Bunch of utter fannies. The pandering that goes on with them lot is a disgrace, they couldn’t give a flying **** to any of the other clubs and if there is any violence it will very quickly be swept under the carpet by all. No witch hunt like we got for over a year. Sick of GFA Scotland, the other clubs need to grow a set and end this bias once and for all, aye right so they will!!!

Sauzee16
10-04-2018, 06:17 PM
He's an SPFL appointment to the Scottish FA Professional Game Board but not on the main SPFL board.

I'm sure it all makes sense to someone.

He’s the most powerful man in Scottish football. Leaking stuff to Celtic supporters clubs especially in Ireland isn’t a new thing neither.

I’ve also heard that Budge isn’t annoyed having to go to Ibrox again she wants hearts two game at home as early as possible though.

Sauzee16
10-04-2018, 06:19 PM
They’re that worried about the greatest most atmospheric game on the world???! Bunch of utter fannies. The pandering that goes on with them lot is a disgrace, they couldn’t give a flying **** to any of the other clubs and if there is any violence it will very quickly be swept under the carpet by all. No witch hunt like we got for over a year. Sick of GFA Scotland, the other clubs need to grow a set and end this bias once and for all, aye right so they will!!!

Especially when the Semi this weekend is 50/50 split and has cause for a lot more violence when Leigh tears the huns a new/old/normal yin.

Two old firm matches two weeks in a row and two hun pumpings with the eventuality Celtic winning the league against them? There may be carnage in Glasgow but get the huns done for it.

Bishop Hibee
10-04-2018, 06:20 PM
The game that is always referred to here is Parkhead 1999 when Rangers (dec. 2012) won the league resulting in much missile mischief.
However I agree and don't see why the rest of us should be inconvenienced due to the inability of old firm knuckle draggers to refrain from lobbing the meagre contents of their wallets at referees.

Totally agree. As has been stated time and time again on here, non-OF clubs need to grow a set and show that Scottish football is about them too. The death of Rangers showed there is life beyond the gruesome twosome.

SHODAN
10-04-2018, 06:24 PM
So lets get this right. They can't play the Old firm game first cos Celtic might win the league if they beat the Huns.
They can't play it second cos Celtic might lose their first game and the other two might win theirs meaning that Celtic could win it against the Huns the second game.
They can't play it the third game cos its a holiday weekend and Police Scotland don't want that.
They can't play it the fourth game cos that's the midweek game and low and behold playing an OF game then.
And they definitely can't play it the last game as Celtic would be unfurling the flag.

CONFUSED

Cancel the ****ing game then. Jokers.

Bristolhibby
10-04-2018, 06:36 PM
How about, we release the first round of fixtures, see the results, then work out what needs to be played for the second round of fixtures so there is no old firm title decider, see the result, then work out the third round is to be and so on and so on....something, anything is better than this, surely...

Nope. That would be giving this farce ligitimacy.

It’s their (Old Firms) problem. Get it sorted!

J

LancsHibs
10-04-2018, 06:37 PM
So lets get this right. They can't play the Old firm game first cos Celtic might win the league if they beat the Huns.
They can't play it second cos Celtic might lose their first game and the other two might win theirs meaning that Celtic could win it against the Huns the second game.
They can't play it the third game cos its a holiday weekend and Police Scotland don't want that.
They can't play it the fourth game cos that's the midweek game and low and behold playing an OF game then.
And they definitely can't play it the last game as Celtic would be unfurling the flag.

CONFUSED

Reminds me how much I hate Rangers & Celtic

Danderhall Hibs
10-04-2018, 06:37 PM
If it’s too hard to work out and we’re at deadlock should we just call it quits now?

Or get the pools guys to predict the results and see where we end up?

Saves the SPFL the hassle of getting fixtures sorted.

tamig
10-04-2018, 06:42 PM
They’re that worried about the greatest most atmospheric game on the world???! Bunch of utter fannies. The pandering that goes on with them lot is a disgrace, they couldn’t give a flying **** to any of the other clubs and if there is any violence it will very quickly be swept under the carpet by all. No witch hunt like we got for over a year. Sick of GFA Scotland, the other clubs need to grow a set and end this bias once and for all, aye right so they will!!!
Just heard wee Chico on Sportsound being the dick that he is by trying to defend any decision to try and avoid Celtic winning the league against their loathsome rivals. He doesn’t get it. Everyone else on the panel saying the semi at the weekend is a more likely flashpoint.

monktonharp
10-04-2018, 06:48 PM
My preferred lineup would be:
Rangers home
Aberdeen away
Killie home
Hearts away
Celtic home

Would give us a chance to challenge the two above us early and try and close the gap, then put us in good stead for the last 3 with Celtic having already won the league.you cant be suggesting that Celtic would lie doon, thereby potentially denying The Rangers a euro place ? :wink:

Aldo
10-04-2018, 06:49 PM
The Scottish Cup Semi Final is a game with more to lose for Newco as it’s their only chance of winning something this year!

It doesn’t matter if it’s the first meeting of the teams or last there is always the chance of bother.

I think their game will be played on 22nd April similar to last time!


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danhibees1875
10-04-2018, 07:35 PM
If anything this delay and all the talk about trouble that could/would ensue over an important game is just a nod to remind them that they're expected to not behave this weekend and will just make Sunday worse.

The Leith Dutch
10-04-2018, 07:40 PM
So lets get this right. They can't play the Old firm game first cos Celtic might win the league if they beat the Huns.
They can't play it second cos Celtic might lose their first game and the other two might win theirs meaning that Celtic could win it against the Huns the second game.
They can't play it the third game cos its a holiday weekend and Police Scotland don't want that.
They can't play it the fourth game cos that's the midweek game and low and behold playing an OF game then.
And they definitely can't play it the last game as Celtic would be unfurling the flag.

CONFUSED

:agree:

Nobody else is even being considered.

Instead we're running the entire league not only for the benefit of the bigot brothers but with a seeming acceptance that the problem isn't a continuing "tradition" of intolerance fueled violence generationally (in)bred into a bunch of knuckle draggers but the scheduling.

Witness previous excuses from the previous incarnation of Sevco -

2009 - Rangers fans riot in Bucharest:

Martin Bain: "I am obviously concerned with the scenes from some of the supporters within the stadium. Nobody wants to see that. However, I am equally concerned at the fact that our football club came and made representation to UEFA and Unirea a few weeks ago to organise the arrangements for the game. We asked for four turnstiles to be made open. And yet our fans turn up tonight and only two turnstiles are open. With that being the case there was a surge from the fans to try to get into the game on time, and CS gas was sprayed into their faces as they tried to access the turnstiles. That therefore led to tension inside the stadium. which I find totally unacceptable and I will make representation to UEFA."

Guess what. Normal people have a right moan when there's not enough turnstyles open.
They don't cause a riot.

Same with the UEFA final riot in Manchester because the big screen TV broke down.
Dissapointing? **** yes. But find a ****ing pub. Or better still, stay at home and watch.

Here's an idea:
Come down on them with the same zeal with which you pursued Hibs fans that wound up on the pitch in 2016.

Play the game whenever it's drawn out a ****ing hat.

If there's violence then play the next one behind closed doors and keep doing that until they learn to behave.
If the huns riot then fine their skint arse excuse for a club.
Likewise Celtic.

PatHead
10-04-2018, 07:53 PM
They’re that worried about the greatest most atmospheric game on the world???! Bunch of utter fannies. The pandering that goes on with them lot is a disgrace, they couldn’t give a flying **** to any of the other clubs and if there is any violence it will very quickly be swept under the carpet by all. No witch hunt like we got for over a year. Sick of GFA Scotland, the other clubs need to grow a set and end this bias once and for all, aye right so they will!!!
Maybe they have and that is why it has not been agreed?

Peanut Shaz
10-04-2018, 08:32 PM
I know it won't ever happen but in my opinion if they imposed some sort of sanction from the start of next season there fans might just might get the message. E.g. start any sectarian singing at home, next home game played behind closed doors or away fans only. Start it at an away fixture, next game no travelling support allowed. Do it again increase to two games and so on. Will never happen I know, but fines don't work. Hit them in other ways.

Mr White
10-04-2018, 08:41 PM
I was hoping to get back for a match after the split but every day that passes without the fixtures being confirmed makes the logistics that bit harder and the likelihood that bit less. Quite frustrating really.

Billy Whizz
10-04-2018, 08:42 PM
I was hoping to get back for a match after the split but every day that passes without the fixtures being confirmed makes the logistics that bit harder and the likelihood that bit less. Bit frustrating really.

Unless you’re a Celtic supporter, and you’ve been given a nod

Mr White
10-04-2018, 08:45 PM
Unless you’re a Celtic supporter, and you’ve been given a nod

I'm not convinced by those rumours tbh.

Daydreamer
10-04-2018, 09:29 PM
Hearing now that BT have announced a Live game for Friday the 20th April.

If anyone is thinking what I am, should be an even bigger scramble for tickets.

Steven79
10-04-2018, 09:36 PM
Hearing now that BT have announced a Live game for Friday the 20th April.

If anyone is thinking what I am, should be an even bigger scramble for tickets.


It's bound to be the derby Tynecastle but surely not enough time to sell tickets?
?

Daydreamer
10-04-2018, 09:40 PM
It's bound to be the derby Tynecastle but surely not enough time to sell tickets?
?

Maybe the clubs have been told already and the tickets are getting printed as we type.
Just speculation but BT def announced a game on the Friday. Would tie in with Celtic v Aberdeen on Sky on the Saturday morning

Steven79
10-04-2018, 09:44 PM
Maybe the clubs have been told already and the tickets are getting printed as we type.
Just speculation but BT def announced a game on the Friday. Would tie in with Celtic v Aberdeen on Sky on the Saturday morning

Well if it is I've got no chance of getting up at this short notice.

Hopefully the game on the 28th is at home.

Sir David Gray
10-04-2018, 09:56 PM
Hearing now that BT have announced a Live game for Friday the 20th April.

If anyone is thinking what I am, should be an even bigger scramble for tickets.

Hope not I'm working til 6 that night.

Aim Here
10-04-2018, 10:23 PM
Maybe the clubs have been told already and the tickets are getting printed as we type.
Just speculation but BT def announced a game on the Friday. Would tie in with Celtic v Aberdeen on Sky on the Saturday morning

This doesn't fit with the speculation of an Edinburgh Derby on the Friday, since that would mean Rangers vs Killie on the Saturday too, and two OF games at home on the same day is something the police would object to - and Killie would definitely be playing at Ibrox, since otherwise it unbalances the schedules even further.

Cod Boy
10-04-2018, 10:28 PM
This doesn't fit with the speculation of an Edinburgh Derby on the Friday, since that would mean Rangers vs Killie on the Saturday too, and two OF games at home on the same day is something the police would object to - and Killie would definitely be playing at Ibrox, since otherwise it unbalances the schedules even further.

Could the Rangers game be on the Sunday.

Aim Here
10-04-2018, 10:39 PM
Could the Rangers game be on the Sunday.

I can't think of a reason why not, other than it would annoy the fans (which wouldn't feature in the SPFL's thinking), and on the other hand it might please the TV companies (which would be something the SPFL care about).

Ozyhibby
10-04-2018, 10:50 PM
This could be like going to a rave in late 80’s early 90’s. We could all be waiting at Harthill services on a call from the spfl telling us the secret location of our next game one hour before kick off. The worldwide publicity is going to be amazing.


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SHODAN
10-04-2018, 11:00 PM
Hearing now that BT have announced a Live game for Friday the 20th April.

If anyone is thinking what I am, should be an even bigger scramble for tickets.

They are taking the piss if they go to all this trouble for those two ****ing clubs but give us and Hearts SEVEN DAYS to arrange ticketing for an Edinburgh derby.

I fully hope and expect Leeann and Budge to start an uproar over this if that is the case. Utterly unacceptable.

Daydreamer
10-04-2018, 11:33 PM
They are taking the piss if they go to all this trouble for those two ****ing clubs but give us and Hearts SEVEN DAYS to arrange ticketing for an Edinburgh derby.

I fully hope and expect Leeann and Budge to start an uproar over this if that is the case. Utterly unacceptable.

If the clubs were to know already it would give them 10 days to arrange tickets etc. police.
Same as the cup replays the last two seasons. If Celtic seem to know they will be playing Aberdeen first game after the split. Everything speculation till the SPFL get their fingers out.
Could be Killie on the Friday night as someone at work has just suggested

Brizo
11-04-2018, 05:48 AM
They are taking the piss if they go to all this trouble for those two ****ing clubs but give us and Hearts SEVEN DAYS to arrange ticketing for an Edinburgh derby.

I fully hope and expect Leeann and Budge to start an uproar over this if that is the case. Utterly unacceptable.

As much as I admire Leeann for what she has achieved at our club she hasn't got a track record of speaking up against the OF or SPFL, and I wouldn't expect that to change. Her future job prospects would be seriously damaged if she did. I know how much she gets our club, but Hibs for her is just a job and it wouldn't surprise me if her long term job aspirations are at the other end of the M8.

As for the farce that's the post split fixtures, the authorities have accommodated and appeased the OF tribal hate fest for over a hundred years, and it shows how little they and the OF have come when in 2018 it remains their main concern. Only in Scotland.....

CropleyWasGod
11-04-2018, 06:32 AM
As much as I admire Leeann for what she has achieved at our club she hasn't got a track record of speaking up against the OF or SPFL, and I wouldn't expect that to change. Her future job prospects would be seriously damaged if she did. I know how much she gets our club, but Hibs for her is just a job and it wouldn't surprise me if her long term job aspirations are at the other end of the M8.

As for the farce that's the post split fixtures, the authorities have accommodated and appeased the OF tribal hate fest for over a hundred years, and it shows how little they and the OF have come when in 2018 it remains their main concern. Only in Scotland.....We don't know that about Leeann.

She tends not to do these things in public. I wouldn't be surprised if she has made a few calls, though.

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SHODAN
11-04-2018, 07:57 AM
And now we move into Wednesday.

Brizo
11-04-2018, 08:18 AM
We don't know that about Leeann.

She tends not to do these things in public. I wouldn't be surprised if she has made a few calls, though.

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I'm surmising based on her not having done anything publicly and your also surmising based on her not having done anything publicly.

Undoubtedly she's the best person I've seen in charge at Hibs,including Tom Hart. Sometimes in very specific circumstances, of which this is one, I would like to see her publicly challenging the weedgie fitba establishment, like Tom Hart did.

Geo_1875
11-04-2018, 08:32 AM
I'm surmising based on her not having done anything publicly and your also surmising based on her not having done anything publicly.

Undoubtedly she's the best person I've seen in charge at Hibs,including Tom Hart. Sometimes in very specific circumstances, of which this is one, I would like to see her publicly challenging the weedgie fitba establishment, like Tom Hart did.

I'm surmising that there is no agreement between the 10 non Celtc/The Rangers clubs that form part of the SPFL and Celtc/The Rangers, so I surmise that there is indeed a challenge to the Celtc/The Rangers biased establishment.

Steven79
11-04-2018, 09:23 AM
Celtic fans are claiming they are away to Hibs on the first split game on the Friday night.

Probably ***** but I'm bored of waiting.....

Hibbyradge
11-04-2018, 09:28 AM
It's bound to be the derby Tynecastle but surely not enough time to sell tickets?
?

Tickets for Peter Kay's entire UK tour sold out in an hour.

I'm sure they can manage to shift a few thousand derby tickets in a week.

hibee_girl
11-04-2018, 09:28 AM
Celtic fans are claiming they are away to Hibs on the first split game on the Friday night.

Probably ***** but I'm bored of waiting.....

Yesterday they were claiming they were at home to Aberdeen first

Aim Here
11-04-2018, 09:32 AM
Celtic fans are claiming they are away to Hibs on the first split game on the Friday night.

Probably ***** but I'm bored of waiting.....

If true, that might be a clue that Hearts vs Rangers is on the Saturday (since one possible reason for moving the fixture off the Saturday is to avoid Hearts and Hibs home games on the same day, and obviously having both sets of sisters on the same train to Edinburgh would also be a recipe for disaster), and in turn, that suggests that it's either Hibs or Aberdeen who are getting the extra Ibrox date, most likely Hibs since there's a 'seeding' argument. (Two teams need to get a third Ibrox game, Killie's definitely getting one, and there's no danger that they'll let Celtic's fixture list be imbalanced in favour of Rangers).

Hibbyradge
11-04-2018, 09:34 AM
Yesterday they were claiming they were at home to Aberdeen first

If you keep guessing different outcomes, your likelihood of getting one right increases, making you ITK.

There are a few on here who are adept at scattergun speculation too.

Cod Boy
11-04-2018, 09:34 AM
I think Celtic will be at home first game as the spfl will want to give them the best chance to win so they don’t win the league against Rangers the following week.

Danderhall Hibs
11-04-2018, 09:39 AM
Tickets for Peter Kay's entire UK tour sold out in an hour.

I'm sure they can manage to shift a few thousand derby tickets in a week.

Just make it PATG - first come first served.

Hibbyradge
11-04-2018, 09:41 AM
Just make it PATG - first come first served.

:agree:

That's how it used to be.

66000 got into Easter Road, not including lift overs, and not a ticket in sight.

Modern football :grr:

Crazyhorse
11-04-2018, 09:44 AM
I'm surmising that there is no agreement between the 10 non Celtc/The Rangers clubs that form part of the SPFL and Celtc/The Rangers, so I surmise that there is indeed a challenge to the Celtc/The Rangers biased establishment.

You may be right but in my time following Scottish football I haven't seen any real challenge to the infirm 'biased establishment'. In fact any threat to their hegemony is quickly shot down by willing stooges like Aberdeen and most recently shamefully by Petrie, apparently speaking on behalf of Hibs.
Although #notinmyname :(

SquashedFrogg
11-04-2018, 09:58 AM
As much as I admire Leeann for what she has achieved at our club she hasn't got a track record of speaking up against the OF or SPFL, and I wouldn't expect that to change. Her future job prospects would be seriously damaged if she did. I know how much she gets our club, but Hibs for her is just a job and it wouldn't surprise me if her long term job aspirations are at the other end of the M8.

As for the farce that's the post split fixtures, the authorities have accommodated and appeased the OF tribal hate fest for over a hundred years, and it shows how little they and the OF have come when in 2018 it remains their main concern. Only in Scotland.....

How do you know this? Unless you have her phone and email tapped I very much doubt you actually know.

Austinho
11-04-2018, 10:06 AM
Really hope the Hearts game is on Friday night - our record against them in night fixtures is fantastic.

green day
11-04-2018, 10:12 AM
How ****** tricky is this?

I could get one of the geeks at my old work to program a spreadsheet to include variables like "chances of sectarian mayhem", "friday night game on to allow fans a pissup opportunity" and "give the huns unfair advantage" and he would already have provided several drafts before his morning coffee.

Honest tae god, the levels of incompetence in our professional game are epic.

Crazyhorse
11-04-2018, 10:14 AM
How do you know this? Unless you have her phone and email tapped I very much doubt you actually know.

I think Brizo is basing his assumption on the available evidence. Which usually is all we can ever do I would have thought?
Unless we want to get into 'unknown unknowns' as Rumsfeld put it or 'unknown knowns' as Žižek puts it.

green day
11-04-2018, 10:21 AM
I think Brizo is basing his assumption on the available evidence. Which usually is all we can ever do I would have thought?
Unless we want to get into 'unknown unknowns' as Rumsfeld put it or 'unknown knowns' as Žižek puts it.

I dont think you need to go there, but basing rants on "available evidence" is an easy way to kick someone isnt it?

If your Owner / CEO / Manager (delete as appropriate) doesnt make a public proclamation of exactly what you want then you can come on here / JKB or wherever and accuse them of doing nothing - simply because they have not done a press release.

What I do know is that she has been more than a breath of fresh air at our club, she is one of the reasons we are where we are now.

Any assumption that she is doing anything other than work like a trojan for the good of our club are way off the mark.

CockneyRebel
11-04-2018, 10:25 AM
You may be right but in my time following Scottish football I haven't seen any real challenge to the infirm 'biased establishment'. In fact any threat to their hegemony is quickly shot down by willing stooges like Aberdeen and most recently shamefully by Petrie, apparently speaking on behalf of Hibs.
Although #notinmyname :(


I could not believe this at the time and still can't understand it at all. What did Aberdeen get, or hope to get, from this kick in the hee haws to all the other non OF clubs? How can things get changed with quisling behaviour like this?

Nevi_SOL
11-04-2018, 10:25 AM
Should Be:
Celtic v The Rangers - Last game of the season

There finished, celtic will have it wrapped up by then and the rangers will need a win to secure 4th

Aberdeen v Killie

Hearts v Hibs

Gives everyone something too play for right upto the last game of the season

FilipinoHibs
11-04-2018, 10:27 AM
If you keep guessing different outcomes, your likelihood of getting one right increases, making you ITK.

There are a few on here who are adept at scattergun speculation too.
I must admit I have not a clue what the fixtures will be.

SHODAN
11-04-2018, 10:31 AM
I'd rather we didn't have Celtic as the first game as the split, given that there will be absolutely zero chance of the officials letting said club leave that game with anything.

SquashedFrogg
11-04-2018, 10:31 AM
I think Brizo is basing his assumption on the available evidence. Which usually is all we can ever do I would have thought?
Unless we want to get into 'unknown unknowns' as Rumsfeld put it or 'unknown knowns' as Žižek puts it.

I guess. However the assumption was that she says very little in public about this particular situation because she is eyeing up a future job in Glasgow. Personally I think that's a lazy point of view and an unnecessary swipe.

My assumption is that our clubs views/points (most of the time) will be made behind closed doors and not directly in the press as some clubs do. A more professional approach if you like.

The yams love their leaders spouting all sorts of pash in the press. We thankfully are different.

SquashedFrogg
11-04-2018, 10:33 AM
I'd rather we didn't have Celtic as the first game as the split, given that there will be absolutely zero chance of the officials letting said club leave that game with anything.

Good point. There's clear fixture engineering going on. Match fixing to a certain extent. This really is a disgrace.

bingo70
11-04-2018, 10:40 AM
Good point. There's clear fixture engineering going on. Match fixing to a certain extent. This really is a disgrace.

Not really if it’s the police or tv companies that are causing the delay.

I don’t buy the theories that the officials will ensure Celtic win a game, I think that’s giving the authorities too much credit.

The whole situation is a shambles though and it’s all down to pandering to the old firm and isn’t helped by the likes of Strachan talking pish in the media.

Tell the tv companies what weeks the teams are playing each other and then let the tv companies and police sort it out later, if it’s an old firm title decider then so be it but play it on Sunday lunch time when there’s less chance of bother.

At the very least there should be communication from the SFA and it will be interesting to see if they issue an apologist for the delay, my guess is they won’t.

Steven79
11-04-2018, 10:42 AM
It's time to bombard the league with phone calls and emails.

The Scottish Professional Football League
Hampden Park
Glasgow
G42 9DE
Tel: +44 (0)141 620 4140
Fax: +44 (0)141 620 4141
email [email protected]

IWasThere2016
11-04-2018, 10:43 AM
I'm really losing interest in this.. it is shambolic

Our game is one big joke.

Steven79
11-04-2018, 10:49 AM
I'd rather we didn't have Celtic as the first game as the split, given that there will be absolutely zero chance of the officials letting said club leave that game with anything.

It will be a stitch up along with being made to visit Ibrox for a third time.

I'ts appearing on more places that It's Hibs v Celtic followed by Aberdeen v Rangers on the Saturday which would probably make sense but we shall see.

Hibbyradge
11-04-2018, 10:49 AM
It's time to bombard the league with phone calls and emails.

The Scottish Professional Football League
Hampden Park
Glasgow
G42 9DE
Tel: +44 (0)141 620 4140
Fax: +44 (0)141 620 4141
email [email protected]

I'm confident that the SPFL want this resolved asap.

A few "Hurry up" emails and calls will do nothing to speed it up. Instead, a junior clerk and a telephonist will have their workloads unecessarily increased.

Delete email. Are you sure? Delete.

"I'm sorry, he's not available just now. If you call back next week he should be free then."

At least the receptionist will get a break when they decide to switch the answerphone on.

SquashedFrogg
11-04-2018, 10:55 AM
Not really if it’s the police or tv companies that are causing the delay.

I don’t buy the theories that the officials will ensure Celtic win a game, I think that’s giving the authorities too much credit.

The whole situation is a shambles though and it’s all down to pandering to the old firm and isn’t helped by the likes of Strachan talking pish in the media.

Tell the tv companies what weeks the teams are playing each other and then let the tv companies and police sort it out later, if it’s an old firm title decider then so be it but play it on Sunday lunch time when there’s less chance of bother.

At the very least there should be communication from the SFA and it will be interesting to see if they issue an apologist for the delay, my guess is they won’t.

Agree entirely with your POV btw. My issue is that as this delay is all about trying to avoid them winning a 'specific' game in their run in, that will (in my view anyway) have a bearing on how a match is officiated. (I know it shouldn't - but I'm not that naive to think it won't).

Anyway, let's just wait and see... We may be pleasantly surprised :rolleyes:

Geo_1875
11-04-2018, 11:03 AM
Not really if it’s the police or tv companies that are causing the delay.

I don’t buy the theories that the officials will ensure Celtic win a game, I think that’s giving the authorities too much credit.

The whole situation is a shambles though and it’s all down to pandering to the old firm and isn’t helped by the likes of Strachan talking pish in the media.

Tell the tv companies what weeks the teams are playing each other and then let the tv companies and police sort it out later, if it’s an old firm title decider then so be it but play it on Sunday lunch time when there’s less chance of bother.

At the very least there should be communication from the SFA and it will be interesting to see if they issue an apologist for the delay, my guess is they won’t.

If it's the police causing the delay with worries about public safety then they should really do their job and demand that the game is played behind closed doors.

If it's the tv companies then they can go **** themselves. Announce the fixtures then SKY can show whatever games they want to show.

MacGruber
11-04-2018, 11:03 AM
Should Be:
Celtic v The Rangers - Last game of the season

There finished, celtic will have it wrapped up by then and the rangers will need a win to secure 4th

Aberdeen v Killie

Hearts v Hibs

Gives everyone something too play for right upto the last game of the season

I think that is actually a very good shout 👍

JimBHibees
11-04-2018, 11:12 AM
I'd rather we didn't have Celtic as the first game as the split, given that there will be absolutely zero chance of the officials letting said club leave that game with anything.

That surely must be the fear of any team having the game prior to the OF game is that they will have contrived to not have the OF derby as a potential title winning game so basically every thing will be done for it not to be.

Steven79
11-04-2018, 11:14 AM
That surely must be the fear of any team having the game prior to the OF game is that they will have contrived to not have the OF derby as a potential title winning game so basically every thing will be done for it not to be.

Coupled with being sent to Ibrox for a third time Hibs could be well shafted so that could be part of the hold-up.

Frogga
11-04-2018, 11:16 AM
This has probably been covered but surely there's an advantage to us playing Celtic post-title party compared to before? In that case how is it fair that the SPFL are actively arranging fixtures rather than doing it randomly? They have to just play the Old Firm when and where it falls and then limit the risk of trouble as much as possible (e.g. lunch time kick of). This whole situation has been a total fares that they should have had contingency plans for!

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SHODAN
11-04-2018, 11:18 AM
The year is 2024. Donald Trump is finally replaced in office by Elizabeth Warren, having contravened decades-old US law to install himself as the ultimately unsuccessful Republican candidate for a third term. After adjusting to life outside of the EU, Prime Minister Corbyn debates with his cabinet whether holding a referendum to rejoin may alleviate falling poll numbers. The iPhone 20X now has no headphone jack, no charging port, no buttons and no screen. The line between reality and the internet becomes more and more blurred as we increasingly question how much influence social media has over our lives. And Police Scotland still haven't decided what the post-split fixtures for the 2017-18 season of the Scottish Premiership will be.

jnr_hibee
11-04-2018, 11:20 AM
Hibs vs celtic 20/4/18 7.45 according to celtic fans ar work / forums

Hibee87
11-04-2018, 11:21 AM
If it's the police causing the delay with worries about public safety then they should really do their job and demand that the game is played behind closed doors.

If it's the tv companies then they can go **** themselves. Announce the fixtures then SKY can show whatever games they want to show.

What public safety though? They have played countless finals at hampden since that day Rangers won the league at parkhead. Presumably since they have circa 19k tickets each there is even more of them watching in the pubs in and around Glasgow, surely that would cause more 'public safety' issues? Infact this Sunday Celtic can effectively end their season, I can imagine there would be more bitter Rangers fans than there would with Celtic winning the league at Parkhead v them. Even the most deluded of Rangers fans know its a matter of when not if they win the league. Absolute mental.

SRHibs
11-04-2018, 11:22 AM
Hibs vs celtic 20/4/18 7.45 according to celtic fans ar work / forums

With the event on the 29th a home tie the week after would’ve been much better. That said, if this means we are going to get HAHAH then I’m content with that.

Crazyhorse
11-04-2018, 11:29 AM
I dont think you need to go there, but basing rants on "available evidence" is an easy way to kick someone isnt it?

If your Owner / CEO / Manager (delete as appropriate) doesnt make a public proclamation of exactly what you want then you can come on here / JKB or wherever and accuse them of doing nothing - simply because they have not done a press release.

What I do know is that she has been more than a breath of fresh air at our club, she is one of the reasons we are where we are now.

Any assumption that she is doing anything other than work like a trojan for the good of our club are way off the mark.

Just to be clear Green Day for me Leanne is the best thing that has ever happened to Hibs in all my time supporting them and I have no doubt our success at present is largely due to her exceptional leadership. I have a great deal of admiration (even love - in a platonic sense) for her because of how she rescued the wreckage that was Hibs.
But the question was about challenging the status quo in Scottish Football culture. I was merely making a point about that.

GordonHFC
11-04-2018, 11:30 AM
A bit cheesed off this morning so this is winging its way to Hampden as we speak.




The Scottish Professional Football League
Hampden Park
Glasgow
G42 9DE

To whom it may concern

I am writing in regards to the fiasco (or one of) in relation to Scottish Football today.

The split, which I am not aware of happening in any other association in Europe, is predominantly unfair.

I would appreciate it, as a season ticket holder with one of the clubs in the current SPFL, if you could answer the following questions:

1. Why is there such a split? Because the split is made after 3 rounds of games this automatically makes it unfair in relation to the number of home games per season that some clubs will have (Not Fair).

2. With the split in place, some teams will possibly have 20 Home games and 18 Away games. This means for season tickets some will be advantaged and some disadvantaged (Not Fair).

3. When a split is made and you find that some clubs have played an opponent 2 times at home already where is it fair that this club gets another home game against that specific club (Not Fair).

4. If a club does get another home game why is the money from that game not split fairly between both clubs (Not Fair).

5. When the split is made, and I believe that this has been going on for some 18 years now, how is it determined who gets to play who, where and when? (Not Fair).

6. In the 18 years that this has been going on, and taking account into the fact of Glasgow Rangers not being involved in the split for a number of years, how many times have either Celtic or Rangers played the other 3 times at home. None that I am aware of (Not Fair).

7. In relation to this season Rangers have played all of the other 5 teams twice at home prior to the split. Why should they be entitled to a further 2 games at home gaining large attendance monies (Not Fair).

8. Who decides when the games will be played? I understand that the TV companies should have a say in the rota as they have paid money for that entitlement but why does Police Scotland have to get involved. If it is because the supporters of specific teams cannot be trusted to conduct themselves properly then this is a matter for the league and association to take forward. We all know the reasons for their behaviour and this will continue until those in position show some bottle in dealing with the issue (this is for another debate).

9. If indeed, the Police are involved and it is for the reasons mentioned above then why should others suffer. There are possibly 4 teams playing for 2 (possibly 3) European places for the 2018/19 season. Why should they all be disadvantaged because 1 game seems to take priority (Not Fair).

10. If, as has been intimated, games (home and away) are based on some sort of ‘seeding’ based on previous years results and expectations, who decides that this is fair. As far as I am aware there has never been the same 6 teams in two consecutive seasons in the top six so how can this possibly work. (Not Fair).

11. If you are going to use a ‘seedings’ system why not seed the teams where they end up at the split?


I would just like to add that I am not trying to be smart with these questions I am just seeking clarification as to where those in high authority within the SPFL think that this is a fair process. It is continuously frustrating for supporters of other clubs viewing this as a process set up to continually feed the needs of two specific clubs.

I am aware that this has been in place for 18 years or so but that does not mean that this system works and those in authority need to sit down seriously and take the needs of all clubs into account and introduce a system that is fair to all of us and not be seen as pandering to those who are continuously favoured by the scottish media and the Police.

Yours Faithfully

Geo_1875
11-04-2018, 11:30 AM
With the event on the 29th a home tie the week after would’ve been much better. That said, if this means we are going to get HAHAH then I’m content with that.

I'm glad you find it funny.

Geo_1875
11-04-2018, 11:33 AM
A bit cheesed off this morning so this is winging its way to Hampden as we speak.




The Scottish Professional Football League
Hampden Park
Glasgow
G42 9DE

To whom it may concern

I am writing in regards to the fiasco (or one of) in relation to Scottish Football today.

The split, which I am not aware of happening in any other association in Europe, is predominantly unfair.

I would appreciate it, as a season ticket holder with one of the clubs in the current SPFL, if you could answer the following questions:

1. Why is there such a split? Because the split is made after 3 rounds of games this automatically makes it unfair in relation to the number of home games per season that some clubs will have (Not Fair).

2. With the split in place, some teams will possibly have 20 Home games and 18 Away games. This means for season tickets some will be advantaged and some disadvantaged (Not Fair).

3. When a split is made and you find that some clubs have played an opponent 2 times at home already where is it fair that this club gets another home game against that specific club (Not Fair).

4. If a club does get another home game why is the money from that game not split fairly between both clubs (Not Fair).

5. When the split is made, and I believe that this has been going on for some 18 years now, how is it determined who gets to play who, where and when? (Not Fair).

6. In the 18 years that this has been going on, and taking account into the fact of Glasgow Rangers not being involved in the split for a number of years, how many times have either Celtic or Rangers played the other 3 times at home. None that I am aware of (Not Fair).

7. In relation to this season Rangers have played all of the other 5 teams twice at home prior to the split. Why should they be entitled to a further 2 games at home gaining large attendance monies (Not Fair).

8. Who decides when the games will be played? I understand that the TV companies should have a say in the rota as they have paid money for that entitlement but why does Police Scotland have to get involved. If it is because the supporters of specific teams cannot be trusted to conduct themselves properly then this is a matter for the league and association to take forward. We all know the reasons for their behaviour and this will continue until those in position show some bottle in dealing with the issue (this is for another debate).

9. If indeed, the Police are involved and it is for the reasons mentioned above then why should others suffer. There are possibly 4 teams playing for 2 (possibly 3) European places for the 2018/19 season. Why should they all be disadvantaged because 1 game seems to take priority (Not Fair).

10. If, as has been intimated, games (home and away) are based on some sort of ‘seeding’ based on previous years results and expectations, who decides that this is fair. As far as I am aware there has never been the same 6 teams in two consecutive seasons in the top six so how can this possibly work. (Not Fair).

11. If you are going to use a ‘seedings’ system why not seed the teams where they end up at the split?


I would just like to add that I am not trying to be smart with these questions I am just seeking clarification as to where those in high authority within the SPFL think that this is a fair process. It is continuously frustrating for supporters of other clubs viewing this as a process set up to continually feed the needs of two specific clubs.

I am aware that this has been in place for 18 years or so but that does not mean that this system works and those in authority need to sit down seriously and take the needs of all clubs into account and introduce a system that is fair to all of us and not be seen as pandering to those who are continuously favoured by the scottish media and the Police.

Yours Faithfully


The Scottish Professional Football League
Hampden Park
Glasgow
G42 9DE

To whom it may concern

Stick yer split up yer arse.

Yours Faithfully

Rocky
11-04-2018, 11:35 AM
Not really if it’s the police or tv companies that are causing the delay.

I don’t buy the theories that the officials will ensure Celtic win a game, I think that’s giving the authorities too much credit.

The whole situation is a shambles though and it’s all down to pandering to the old firm and isn’t helped by the likes of Strachan talking pish in the media.

Tell the tv companies what weeks the teams are playing each other and then let the tv companies and police sort it out later, if it’s an old firm title decider then so be it but play it on Sunday lunch time when there’s less chance of bother.

At the very least there should be communication from the SFA and it will be interesting to see if they issue an apologist for the delay, my guess is they won’t.

My guess is that that's exactly what they've done - and now the delay is wrangling over who gets which TV game /kick off times etc.

Billy Whizz
11-04-2018, 11:36 AM
Hibs vs celtic 20/4/18 7.45 according to celtic fans ar work / forums

Not shooting you down, but last week it was going to be Hearts away 1st, then Killie at home, and now Celtic at home

makaveli1875
11-04-2018, 11:36 AM
celtic seem to know their fixtures :rolleyes:


Celtic’s post split fixturesHaving created the split and built in a fear over Celtic clinching the title against the tribute act the authorities have had to go to ridiculous lengths to suit all interested parties- except supporters


Hibs v Celtic, 20/4/18 19.45
Celtic v Sevco, 29/4/18 12.00
Hearts v Celtic, 4/5/18, 19.45
Celtic v Aberdeen, 8/5/18, 19.45
Celtic v Kilmarnock, 13/5/18, 12.30
It is believed that Sevco will travel to Aberdeen in the first post split fixture where a draw could hand Celtic the title even if they lose at Hibs.

Benny Brazil
11-04-2018, 11:37 AM
A bit cheesed off this morning so this is winging its way to Hampden as we speak.




The Scottish Professional Football League
Hampden Park
Glasgow
G42 9DE

To whom it may concern

I am writing in regards to the fiasco (or one of) in relation to Scottish Football today.

The split, which I am not aware of happening in any other association in Europe, is predominantly unfair.

I would appreciate it, as a season ticket holder with one of the clubs in the current SPFL, if you could answer the following questions:

1. Why is there such a split? Because the split is made after 3 rounds of games this automatically makes it unfair in relation to the number of home games per season that some clubs will have (Not Fair).

2. With the split in place, some teams will possibly have 20 Home games and 18 Away games. This means for season tickets some will be advantaged and some disadvantaged (Not Fair).

3. When a split is made and you find that some clubs have played an opponent 2 times at home already where is it fair that this club gets another home game against that specific club (Not Fair).

4. If a club does get another home game why is the money from that game not split fairly between both clubs (Not Fair).

5. When the split is made, and I believe that this has been going on for some 18 years now, how is it determined who gets to play who, where and when? (Not Fair).

6. In the 18 years that this has been going on, and taking account into the fact of Glasgow Rangers not being involved in the split for a number of years, how many times have either Celtic or Rangers played the other 3 times at home. None that I am aware of (Not Fair).

7. In relation to this season Rangers have played all of the other 5 teams twice at home prior to the split. Why should they be entitled to a further 2 games at home gaining large attendance monies (Not Fair).

8. Who decides when the games will be played? I understand that the TV companies should have a say in the rota as they have paid money for that entitlement but why does Police Scotland have to get involved. If it is because the supporters of specific teams cannot be trusted to conduct themselves properly then this is a matter for the league and association to take forward. We all know the reasons for their behaviour and this will continue until those in position show some bottle in dealing with the issue (this is for another debate).

9. If indeed, the Police are involved and it is for the reasons mentioned above then why should others suffer. There are possibly 4 teams playing for 2 (possibly 3) European places for the 2018/19 season. Why should they all be disadvantaged because 1 game seems to take priority (Not Fair).

10. If, as has been intimated, games (home and away) are based on some sort of ‘seeding’ based on previous years results and expectations, who decides that this is fair. As far as I am aware there has never been the same 6 teams in two consecutive seasons in the top six so how can this possibly work. (Not Fair).

11. If you are going to use a ‘seedings’ system why not seed the teams where they end up at the split?


I would just like to add that I am not trying to be smart with these questions I am just seeking clarification as to where those in high authority within the SPFL think that this is a fair process. It is continuously frustrating for supporters of other clubs viewing this as a process set up to continually feed the needs of two specific clubs.

I am aware that this has been in place for 18 years or so but that does not mean that this system works and those in authority need to sit down seriously and take the needs of all clubs into account and introduce a system that is fair to all of us and not be seen as pandering to those who are continuously favoured by the scottish media and the Police.

Yours Faithfully

Some fair questions in there that need to be answered - but sadly you'll get a bog standard response which won't address any of your questions

SHODAN
11-04-2018, 11:37 AM
Who's to bet they've sorted out the OF's fixtures but have now just realised they have to do everyone else's too?

bingo70
11-04-2018, 11:40 AM
My guess is that that's exactly what they've done - and now the delay is wrangling over who gets which TV game /kick off times etc.

They should tell us that then.

Steven79
11-04-2018, 11:43 AM
They should tell us that then.

If it was Celtic at home on the 20th then it would have to be Hearts or Aberdeen away on the 28th/29th as it wouldn't be another home game (Killie) and if Rangers were playing Celtic that leaves them out.

Crazyhorse
11-04-2018, 11:44 AM
I guess. However the assumption was that she says very little in public about this particular situation because she is eyeing up a future job in Glasgow. Personally I think that's a lazy point of view and an unnecessary swipe.

My assumption is that our clubs views/points (most of the time) will be made behind closed doors and not directly in the press as some clubs do. A more professional approach if you like.

The yams love their leaders spouting all sorts of pash in the press. We thankfully are different.

I would never question Leanne's integrity.
This is more about Hibs and a Scottish football culture problem which I think our club does contribute to. From what I can see no one speaks up about the pernicious influence of the sectarian twins and how every policy decision is skewed to suit them.

I suppose that crook Vlad did and we joined in the MSM mockery of him because he was a jambo nutter/dodgy ******er. I always thought he was right about the Glasgow media 'monkeys' and the sinister infirm control of football in Scotland though.

Rocky
11-04-2018, 11:46 AM
They should tell us that then.

Agreed - I'm not denying it's a farce, I just don't see how they could still be arguing over avoiding Celtic winning league v Huns - nothing is going to change to give any clarity on that before top 6 games start.

Captain Trips
11-04-2018, 11:47 AM
Point 6 is good of the earlier post have Sevco or Rangers been to parkhead 3 times or Celtic been to Ibrox 3 times.

CapitalGreen
11-04-2018, 11:47 AM
If it was Celtic at home on the 20th then it would have to be Hearts or Aberdeen away on the 28th/29th as it wouldn't be another home game (Killie) and if Rangers were playing Celtic that leaves them out.

why wouldn't it be another home game?

Hibs have played back-to-back Home or Away games 9 times this season.

SHODAN
11-04-2018, 11:47 AM
Based on the leaked Celtic fixtures, here's what ours would have to be, assuming HAHAH:

Week 1: Celtic (H)
Week 2: Aberdeen (A) - Aberdeen playing Celtic week 4.
Week 3: Kilmarnock (H) - Killie playing Celtic week 5.
Week 4: Hearts (A)
Week 5: Rangers (H)

Aim Here
11-04-2018, 11:48 AM
Who's to bet they've sorted out the OF's fixtures but have now just realised they have to do everyone else's too?

If you know even one team's fixture list over the five matches, that will almost sort out the rest of them automatically, given the constraints. You have two sets of two teams, so just two matches to choose from for each week, you know who's playing home and away (with one exception - it's unclear which of Aberdeen, Hibs or Hearts is playing at Ibrox), and the necessity of not having Celtic/Rangers and Hibs/Hearts playing in the same city at the same time makes the scheduling fairly easy.

If you know two teams, the whole schedule is totally determined, as far as I can tell.

SRHibs
11-04-2018, 11:48 AM
Based on the leaked Celtic fixtures, here's what ours would have to be, assuming HAHAH:

Week 1: Celtic (H)
Week 2: Aberdeen (A) - Aberdeen playing Celtic week 4.
Week 3: Kilmarnock (H) - Killie playing Celtic week 5.
Week 4: Hearts (A)
Week 5: Rangers (H)

Set up nicely for some final day exuberance!

Steven79
11-04-2018, 11:49 AM
why wouldn't it be another home game?

Hibs have played back-to-back Home or Away games 9 times this season.

I wouldn't have thought they would give the last three games away from home after then split but anything is possible.....

Onceinawhile
11-04-2018, 11:50 AM
A bit cheesed off this morning so this is winging its way to Hampden as we speak.




The Scottish Professional Football League
Hampden Park
Glasgow
G42 9DE

To whom it may concern

I am writing in regards to the fiasco (or one of) in relation to Scottish Football today.

The split, which I am not aware of happening in any other association in Europe, is predominantly unfair.



If it was me reading that, I'd stop reading after here, as you've clearly not bothered researching it properly, given that there's an example of a European league with a far more convoluted split on this thread.

(Belgium btw).

YanYansen
11-04-2018, 11:51 AM
Based on the leaked Celtic fixtures, here's what ours would have to be, assuming HAHAH:

Week 1: Celtic (H)
Week 2: Aberdeen (A) - Aberdeen playing Celtic week 4.
Week 3: Kilmarnock (H) - Killie playing Celtic week 5.
Week 4: Hearts (A)
Week 5: Rangers (H)

Would take that, like!

sundo1875
11-04-2018, 11:54 AM
Week 1 Celtic H
Week 2 Hearts A
Week 3 Rangers A
Week 4 Killie H
Week 5 Aberdeen A

:aok:

Rocky
11-04-2018, 11:54 AM
If it was me reading that, I'd stop reading after here, as you've clearly not bothered researching it properly, given that there's an example of a European league with a far more convoluted split on this thread.

(Belgium btw).

Not familiar with Belgium but I watched a bit of MLS the other day and their setup is seriously epic. They score points in their league for playing against teams who aren't even in the same league!

Billy Whizz
11-04-2018, 11:56 AM
Week 1 Celtic H
Week 2 Hearts A
Week 3 Rangers A
Week 4 Killie H
Week 5 Aberdeen A

:aok:

That would be horrendous

3pm
11-04-2018, 11:59 AM
That would be horrendous

Don't think anything is going to look good unless we are at home 3 times, one of which is against The Rangers.

Billy Whizz
11-04-2018, 12:01 PM
Don't think anything is going to look good unless we are at home 3 times, one of which is against The Rangers.

I know, but to get Celtic when they can win the league, followed by 3 away games....

stantonhibby
11-04-2018, 12:03 PM
The Sun are now reporting the Fri night game v Celtic as fact

GordonHFC
11-04-2018, 12:06 PM
If it was me reading that, I'd stop reading after here, as you've clearly not bothered researching it properly, given that there's an example of a European league with a far more convoluted split on this thread.

(Belgium btw).

Why so aggressive.

I said I was not aware not that one doesn't exist . They can respond with answers. If you don't want to read any further I don't really care.

Hibbyradge
11-04-2018, 12:07 PM
I think the SPFL are between a rock and a hard place.

Sky have already announced their EPL games for May.

That will be causing further difficulty.

E.g. the police might want the Rantic game played at 11.00am, but the TV companies won't be able to accommodate that.

I don't know the reason behind the delay, but I wouldn't want to be involved in the deliberations.

Baldy Foghorn
11-04-2018, 12:08 PM
I think the SPFL are between a rock and a hard place.

Sky have already announced their EPL games for May.

That will be causing further difficulty.

E.g. the police might want the Rantic game played at 11.00am, but the TV companies won't be able to accommodate that.

I don't know the reason behind the delay, but I wouldn't want to be involved in the deliberations.

They have had a week now, and are still in discussion, they are a shambles

Hibbyradge
11-04-2018, 12:09 PM
Why so aggressive.

I said I was not aware not that one doesn't exist . They can respond with answers. If you don't want to read any further I don't really care.

There are several.

Some leagues only have 3 rounds so the teams only play certain teams once at home and there's always an imbalance between home and away games.

Baldy Foghorn
11-04-2018, 12:10 PM
The Sun are now reporting the Fri night game v Celtic as fact

Celtic guy at Work told me the same, and the have Aberdeen in the midweek?

Must be close to telling us now?

Jackh
11-04-2018, 12:11 PM
It's time to bombard the league with phone calls and emails.

The Scottish Professional Football League
Hampden Park
Glasgow
G42 9DE
Tel: +44 (0)141 620 4140
Fax: +44 (0)141 620 4141

email [email protected]

Aye email the admin boys. That’ll help mate.

matty_f
11-04-2018, 12:17 PM
It's a farcical situation that they would plan a game around some pre-determined outcomes.

The fact that one team specifically won't be forced to play the strongest team in the league when there's something at stake surely draws the integrity of the league into question.

It's not as if we're talking about immaterial differences here either - places 2-4 in the league are so close that one game counts and could make a difference of several hundred thousand pounds to the teams involved - so the potential advantage being handed to a team now also hands a potential advantage going into the new season.

It really annoys me, it's not at all palatable yet we have virtually no choice but to suck it up.

It's almost worse that they're so open about it, "yes, we're having to work around two clubs but if we don't then some radges will go fighting". We suffer because of their behaviour. It'd disgusting, to be honest, and is far removed from the principle of a competitive sport/competition that we should expect when we pay our money every season.

Baldy Foghorn
11-04-2018, 12:18 PM
It's a farcical situation that they would plan a game around some pre-determined outcomes.

The fact that one team specifically won't be forced to play the strongest team in the league when there's something at stake surely draws the integrity of the league into question.

It's not as if we're talking about immaterial differences here either - places 2-4 in the league are so close that one game counts and could make a difference of several hundred thousand pounds to the teams involved - so the potential advantage being handed to a team now also hands a potential advantage going into the new season.

It really annoys me, it's not at all palatable yet we have virtually no choice but to suck it up.

It's almost worse that they're so open about it, "yes, we're having to work around two clubs but if we don't then some radges will go fighting". We suffer because of their behaviour. It'd disgusting, to be honest, and is far removed from the principle of a competitive sport/competition that we should expect when we pay our money every season.

Good post Matty,

Nail on head......

GordonHFC
11-04-2018, 12:20 PM
There are several.

Some leagues only have 3 rounds so the teams only play certain teams once at home and there's always an imbalance between home and away games.

Cheers Hibbyradge. At least at the start of the season you will know what is in front of you. Leaving things until the last 5 games of the season does leave you a bit frustrated. Its specifically der Hun getting a guaranteed third game at home against 2 others that really p****s me off.

allezsauzee
11-04-2018, 12:28 PM
I’d wish they’d gone ahead with the original intention of everybody stating wth zero points after the split. You could finish sixth, win all your games after the split then win the league. Likewise finish seventh, lose all your games and get relegated.

I’m sure they did it in the Dutch league to determine the last Champions League place.

That would allow some cynical gaming of the admin process. Go into admin early on in the season, lose 15 points & finish bottom after 33 games. Then miraculously come out of admin prior to the split possibly with the assistance of a mystery benefactor or 3 directors and then get enough points in the final 5 games to avoid relegation and you have a clean slate for the following season. I think we know which 2 clubs would be the likely ones to take advantage of such a scenario.

Fife-Hibee
11-04-2018, 12:41 PM
I'm assuming the OF game is planned to be played after Celtic play us at ER? If that's the case, we have absolutely zero chance of taking anything from this one, none whatsoever. :brickwall

Billy Whizz
11-04-2018, 12:41 PM
So do we give Celtic the full end next Friday?

Blaster
11-04-2018, 12:42 PM
I'm assuming the OF game is planned to be played after Celtic play us at ER? If that's the case, we have absolutely zero chance of taking anything from this one, none whatsoever. :brickwall

That’s the spirit 👍

Fife-Hibee
11-04-2018, 12:46 PM
That’s the spirit 👍

Nothing to do with spirit, just cold hard fact. We won't be allowed to take anything from this. Why else would they have this game before the OF game? Why not just have the OF game first? Because they don't want Celtic winning it against The Rangers, that's why.

Steven79
11-04-2018, 12:46 PM
That’s the spirit 👍

It's nothing to do with Hibs more to do with the team getting screwed over by the refs/league.

bingo70
11-04-2018, 12:47 PM
Do people really believe this nonsense about the refs not going to let us win?

Tin foil hat stuff imo.

Fife-Hibee
11-04-2018, 12:49 PM
Do people really believe this nonsense about the refs not going to let us win?

Tin foil hat stuff imo.

Then why have this game before the OF game? What's the purpose of this game unless it's to ensure that Celtic win here?

hibee_girl
11-04-2018, 12:49 PM
The SPFL must be pretty confident of Celtic beating us if they have us first and Rangers 2nd

Blaster
11-04-2018, 12:49 PM
Nothing to do with spirit, just cold hard fact. We won't be allowed to take anything from this. Why else would they have this game before the OF game? Why not just have the OF game first? Because they don't want Celtic winning it against The Rangers, that's why.

Maybe Celtic would prefer to win it against rangers and ram it up the authorities? That would be funny

Geo_1875
11-04-2018, 12:51 PM
Nothing to do with spirit, just cold hard fact. We won't be allowed to take anything from this. Why else would they have this game before the OF game? Why not just have the OF game first? Because they don't want Celtic winning it against The Rangers, that's why.

But what if Celtc throw our game so they can win the league at Ibrokes?

Fife-Hibee
11-04-2018, 12:51 PM
Maybe Celtic would prefer to win it against rangers and ram it up the authorities? That would be funny

That's the best we can hope for. It would have to be so blatantly obvious however that Celtic don't even enter our box once during the whole game. Can't see that happening tbh.

Peevemor
11-04-2018, 12:52 PM
But what if Celtc throw our game so they can win the league at Ibrokes?

They'll wait until after the match to announce Celtic's next fixture and so on, up until such time that they win the league then it'll be safe to play the OF game.

bingo70
11-04-2018, 12:53 PM
Then why have this game before the OF game? What's the purpose of this game unless it's to ensure that Celtic win here?

There’s a preference that Celtic don’t win the league against the rangers and then there’s a full blown conspiracy that would need to include the referee, numerous people at the spfl, people at Celtic and then no doubt people at rangers too.

bingo70
11-04-2018, 12:55 PM
That's the best we can hope for. It would have to be so blatantly obvious however that Celtic don't even enter our box once during the whole game. Can't see that happening tbh.

Will you be going to the game?

Fife-Hibee
11-04-2018, 12:55 PM
There’s a preference that Celtic don’t win the league against the rangers and then there’s a full blown conspiracy that would need to include the referee, numerous people at the spfl, people at Celtic and then no doubt people at rangers too.

Isn't "preference" enough to call the game into disrepute? If there's a preference for Celtic to beat us at Easter Road by the footballing authorities, then that's pretty alarming. Not sure how you can be so chill about it.

Since90+2
11-04-2018, 12:56 PM
Week 1 Celtic H
Week 2 Hearts A
Week 3 Rangers A
Week 4 Killie H
Week 5 Aberdeen A

:aok:

Probably the worst set of fixtures possible. We play Celtic while they still have to win the league and have to go to Tynecastle and Ibrox back to back.

Jackh
11-04-2018, 12:56 PM
Week 1 Celtic H
Week 2 Hearts A
Week 3 Rangers A
Week 4 Killie H
Week 5 Aberdeen A

:aok:

Prove it

Mikey
11-04-2018, 12:57 PM
It's a farcical situation that they would plan a game around some pre-determined outcomes.

The fact that one team specifically won't be forced to play the strongest team in the league when there's something at stake surely draws the integrity of the league into question.

It's not as if we're talking about immaterial differences here either - places 2-4 in the league are so close that one game counts and could make a difference of several hundred thousand pounds to the teams involved - so the potential advantage being handed to a team now also hands a potential advantage going into the new season.

It really annoys me, it's not at all palatable yet we have virtually no choice but to suck it up.

It's almost worse that they're so open about it, "yes, we're having to work around two clubs but if we don't then some radges will go fighting". We suffer because of their behaviour. It'd disgusting, to be honest, and is far removed from the principle of a competitive sport/competition that we should expect when we pay our money every season.

Spot on. And it's worth remembering that Rangers have already played (and beaten) Hearts at a neutral venue with 14,000 of their own fans there.

Fife-Hibee
11-04-2018, 12:57 PM
Will you be going to the game?

I'm a ST holder, so i'll be there. But I feel like I already know the script to this one.

Billy Whizz
11-04-2018, 01:03 PM
If it’s Celtic next Friday, at least Neil can get on with his team planning, with no Allan or Bartley available

Aim Here
11-04-2018, 01:08 PM
The SPFL must be pretty confident of Celtic beating us if they have us first and Rangers 2nd

If that's the SPFL mindset, they'd likely be trying to set up Rangers and Aberdeen to both drop points with the other two games, to moot the Celtic result if possible, so Killie vs Aberdeen and Hearts vs Rangers that weekend.

And the week after, the OF Derby happens on Sunday at noon, with either us or the Jambos facing Aberdeen at Pittodrie beforehand, whichever one the SPFL figures is most likely to cause them to drop points and make the result irrelevant.

GloryGlory
11-04-2018, 01:12 PM
The SPFL must be pretty confident of Celtic beating us if they have us first and Rangers 2nd

The referee will have explicit instructions...

Col2
11-04-2018, 01:13 PM
If it’s Celtic next Friday, at least Neil can get on with his team planning, with no Allan or Bartley available

Is Bartley suspended?

hibee_girl
11-04-2018, 01:14 PM
Is Bartley suspended?

:agree: for the first game after the split

Billy Whizz
11-04-2018, 01:16 PM
Is Bartley suspended?

As hibee_girl says

Maybe a game for Whittaker to come in for?

Springbank
11-04-2018, 01:20 PM
I don't think Neil Lennon or Leanne Dempster have a negative mindset.

Hibs v Celtic as first game (to supposedly halt an old firm title decider) is CRYING OUT for a big Hibs win.
Ftof

truehibernian
11-04-2018, 01:30 PM
Hibs v Celtic at a packed Easter Road on a Friday night is excellent. Atmosphere will be superb and we have an excellent chance of beating them given their defensive frailty this season. There is one goal between the sides in the league this season - one goal !! And we breached their defence twice in the cup semi.

Nothing to fear at all and these are the games we want to be part of, home or away. Can't wait and wouldn't it be oh so ironic if we win and they have to win the title v The Rangers the game after :greengrin Don't think the team needs any more motivation than that :agree:

Rocky
11-04-2018, 01:31 PM
Maybe the SPFL have spent the past few days reading the fans forums to see what conspiracy theories are being put forward in a bid to come up with a fixture list that avoids the most epic of them?

kaimendhibs
11-04-2018, 01:40 PM
Sorry, just catching up. Is this confirmed?

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Man Down Under
11-04-2018, 01:43 PM
I don't think Neil Lennon or Leanne Dempster have a negative mindset.

Hibs v Celtic as first game (to supposedly halt an old firm title decider) is CRYING OUT for a big Hibs win.
Fto***pect some great refereeing

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hibee_girl
11-04-2018, 01:44 PM
Sorry, just catching up. Is this confirmed?

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No, nothing has been confirmed yet

Aim Here
11-04-2018, 01:45 PM
Can't wait and wouldn't it be oh so ironic if we win and they have to win the title v The Rangers the game after

We don't even need to win; if either Rangers or Aberdeen win that weekend, all that needs to happen is for us to draw with Celtic and the OF title game is on and Police Scotland has to face it's nightmare Apocalypse scenario. If you're west of Falkirk, I recommend stocking up on tinned food and making sure your fallout shelter is still operational.

Springbank
11-04-2018, 01:53 PM
"Lads, Lads, let's totally ensure there's no title decider by sending Celtic to a venue they haven't won at for 5 years"

kaimendhibs
11-04-2018, 01:53 PM
No, nothing has been confirmed yetCheers

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Stuart93
11-04-2018, 01:55 PM
I like how they've completely written us off to try and avoid Celtic winning the title v the rangers.

Suits me.

Up The Bracket
11-04-2018, 01:56 PM
Prove it

Brexit means Breakfast.

SHODAN
11-04-2018, 01:56 PM
It's now 7 days, 17 hours, 25 minutes and 38 seconds since the top and bottom six clubs were confirmed.

Bobby's Cinema
11-04-2018, 02:06 PM
It's now 7 days, 17 hours, 25 minutes and 38 seconds since the top and bottom six clubs were confirmed.

It’s horrendous. If you were following Scottish football from outside Scotland, from the spfl’s correspondance social media, website or otherwise you would have absolutely no idea the remaining fixtures were even happening. Not fit for purpose

Frazerbob
11-04-2018, 02:13 PM
Hopefully Celtic chuck it against us so they can win the title against Sevco.

LancsHibs
11-04-2018, 02:16 PM
Point 1. The incompetence of the SPFL is unbelievable, they must have had an idea who the top 6 were going to be 6 weeks ago and you would have thought contingencies would have been in place in order for the fixtures to be released within minutes of the last set of games being played. The league authority are NOT FIT FOR PURPOSE

Point 2. If the rumour is true that we play Celtic first on the Friday night, great bring it on, more incentive for us to get a result. It’s only Celtic, they are good(in our league) but far from invincible. Get stuck into them!

TrinityHibs
11-04-2018, 02:18 PM
It's now 7 days, 17 hours, 25 minutes and 38 seconds since the top and bottom six clubs were confirmed.

Houston we got a problem 😱😱😱😱

HibbyAndy
11-04-2018, 02:32 PM
Hopefully Celtic chuck it against us so they can win the title against Sevco.

That's actually no as far fetched as it seems !

guthrie01
11-04-2018, 02:35 PM
Hopefully Celtic chuck it against us so they can win the title against Sevco.

Would be hilarious if they spent this much time just to avoid an OF victory game only for it to end up happening regardless

makaveli1875
11-04-2018, 02:53 PM
Iv heard the fixtures willbe announced at 4pm , no idea if theres any truth in it , i guess we will find out in 8 minutes

Steven79
11-04-2018, 02:59 PM
Iv heard the fixtures willbe announced at 4pm , no idea if theres any truth in it , i guess we will find out in 8 minutes


Finally! They are being announced.....

https://twitter.com/spfl/status/984082522802982912https://twitter.com/spfl/status/984082522802982912

Weststand
11-04-2018, 03:00 PM
Celtic home Sat 1230
Killie home sat 3
Aberdeen away 3
Hertz away 745
Sevco home 1230:thumbsup:

SHODAN
11-04-2018, 03:00 PM
SPFL's just tweeted that it's away to publish the fixtures.

Hibs90
11-04-2018, 03:00 PM
SPFL's just tweeted that it's away to publish the fixtures.

Embarassing tweet.

SRHibs
11-04-2018, 03:00 PM
Decent.

Steven79
11-04-2018, 03:01 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Daghsa5WAAAEEs_.jpg:large

Hibs90
11-04-2018, 03:02 PM
H Celtic
H Kilmarnock
A Aberdeen
A Hearts
H Rangers

Billy Whizz
11-04-2018, 03:02 PM
Happy with this

SteveHFC
11-04-2018, 03:02 PM
Rangers home on 13

Mikey
11-04-2018, 03:02 PM
We need to make sure that last game of the season counts. Really chuffed with that.

SHODAN
11-04-2018, 03:02 PM
Sat 21st April 12:30: Celtic (H)
Sat 28th April 15:00: Kilmarnock (H)
Sat 5th May 15:00: Aberdeen (A)
Wed 9th May 19:45: Hearts (A)
Sat 13th May 12:30: Rangers (H)

Wow. That's actually not complete ****.

Steven79
11-04-2018, 03:03 PM
Sat 21st April 12:30: Celtic (H)
Sat 28th April 15:00: Kilmarnock (H)
Sat 5th May 15:00: Aberdeen (A)
Wed 9th May 19:45: Hearts (A)
Sat 13th May 12:30: Rangers (H)

Wow. That's actually not complete ****.

I'm much happier than I thought I would be! I should make all the fixtures apart from the Derby (Unless I can get an overnight bus or a lift back)

adhibs
11-04-2018, 03:04 PM
Rangers on the last day could be good!

SirDavidsNapper
11-04-2018, 03:06 PM
Nice boost to home average

Tollhouse Hibee
11-04-2018, 03:07 PM
I think thats as good as we were ever going to get - and 3 home games.............

danhibees1875
11-04-2018, 03:07 PM
Goes without saying, but I would love it, LOVE IT, if we pump Celtic and have the league decided in the OF game after all this. :greengrin

Although draws in Aberdeen's games v Killie and Hearts would be preferable and still have the league decided pre-OF.

Moulin Yarns
11-04-2018, 03:08 PM
Sat 21st April 12:30: Celtic (H) TV
Sat 28th April 15:00: Kilmarnock (H)
Sat 5th May 15:00: Aberdeen (A)
Wed 9th May 19:45: Hearts (A) TV
Sat 13th May 12:30: Rangers (H) TV

Wow. That's actually not complete ****.

Not too shabby for those that can't make it to the games, but I see 3 full houses.

leggeto
11-04-2018, 03:08 PM
Get in there,huns at home last game :)

hibbie02
11-04-2018, 03:08 PM
So if we beat Celtic in the first one, they could still win the League against the Huns the next week? That went well then. They must really fancy Celtic to beat us.

Good set of fixtures. Only one game outside Edinburgh. Hearts at night. No Killie pitch. Stickies at the end (at Home) as a second place decider!!! Well I can hope!

Famous Fiver
11-04-2018, 03:09 PM
Excellent

3 home fixtures.

Unfortunately missing the Celtic match due to London Marathon but I can watch it in London.

Jambos will be spewing. Two home fixtures at the back end of the split so bang goes the extra time needed for their super duper, as yet to be paid for, £1million pitch to be be laid, and ready for their European adventure.

Oh wait...................

Billy Whizz
11-04-2018, 03:09 PM
4 out of 5 games in Edinburgh, happy days

RSS Bot
11-04-2018, 03:10 PM
More...


(http://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/news/8594) Hibernian’s first post-split fixture will be against Celtic on Saturday 21 April, with the game kicking-off at 12:30pm at Easter Road Stadium.



Following the game against Brendan Rodgers’ side, Hibernian will face Kilmarnock at home on Saturday 28 April (3pm kick-off) and will then travel to Aberdeen on Saturday 5 May for a 3pm kick-off at Pittodrie.


Hibernian’s penultimate game of the season will be an Edinburgh Derby at Tynecastle Park on Wednesday 9 May as the side take on Heart of Midlothian, with the Ladbrokes Premiership campaign finishing with a home match against Rangers on Sunday 13 May with that game kicking off at 12:30pm.


Our matches at home to Celtic and Rangers, along with the fixture away to Hearts, will be shown live on BT Sport.


Our fixtures are as follows:


Saturday 21 April: Hibernian v Celtic (12:30pm kick-off)
Saturday 28 April: Hibernian v Kilmarnock (3pm kick-off)
Saturday 5 May: Aberdeen v Hibernian (3pm kick-off)
Wednesday 9 May: Heart of Midlothian v Hibernian (7:45pm kick-off)
Sunday 13 May: Hibernian v Rangers (12:30pm kick-off)


We will announce ticketing and hospitality information for all our post-split fixtures in due course.




(http://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/news/8594)

scuttle
11-04-2018, 03:10 PM
Celtic home Sat 1230
Killie home sat 3
Aberdeen away 3
Hertz away 745
Sevco home 1230:thumbsup:

Where are you getting your info mate, is this official or are you guessing as cant se anything official yet

Aim Here
11-04-2018, 03:11 PM
Where are you getting your info mate, is this official or are you guessing as cant se anything official yet

It's on the spfl site now.

hulk
11-04-2018, 03:11 PM
Sat 21st April 12:30: Celtic (H)
Sat 28th April 15:00: Kilmarnock (H)
Sat 5th May 15:00: Aberdeen (A)
Wed 9th May 19:45: Hearts (A)
Sat 13th May 12:30: Rangers (H)

Wow. That's actually not complete ****.

Rangers game is Sunday 13th - not Saturday

Steven79
11-04-2018, 03:11 PM
4 out of 5 games in Edinburgh, happy days

Hearts will be fuming about going back to Ibrox! :thumbsup:

SirDavidsNapper
11-04-2018, 03:11 PM
Excellent set of fixtures for us. Petrie can unlock Lennons door now

makaveli1875
11-04-2018, 03:12 PM
Cant complain , thought we were a stick on for a 3rd trip to grayskull . The sc#mbos will be spewing

Famous Fiver
11-04-2018, 03:12 PM
Not worked out all the permutations but pretty happy with that lot.

It will be interesting to get reaction from the other 5 combatants, especially our Gorgie chums.

scuttle
11-04-2018, 03:12 PM
It's on the spfl site now.

OK thanks